The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF- If the season BEGAN today

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

Stugotz, Billy and Mikey A play a little game of "if the season began today". Mikey A steals a Fuentes take after he spends too long waffling on it. Super Bowl champion tight end Dallas Goedert joins ...the show fresh off his victory over the Chiefs. Plus, Chris Simms stops by to tell us what went wrong for the Chiefs and why we need to pump the breaks on all of the Jalen Hurts accolades right now. And finally, a game of "Aaron or Aaron?". Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. When you sit on your aeroplan points, it's like you're sitting on your next trip, like a sunny getaway by the sea. But instead, you're sitting on your aeroplan points. So the only sea you get to sit in is a sea of traffic. Use your points and go from smelling your ocean breeze air freshener to smelling the ocean breeze.
Starting point is 00:00:35 So stop sitting on your next trip and start enjoying your Aeroplan points. God bless football. Billy Gill. God bless football, Mikey. God bless football, Fuentes. God bless football, Stegatz. Chris Simms is going to join us here on TV. On the audio side,. Dallas Goddard and Chris Sims will join us on this week's edition of God bless football. Super Bowl champion Dallas Goddard. Yeah. Presented, by the way, by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. You we did a countdown here right beforehand that you got it very weird. Like most of us just do five, four, three, two, one.
Starting point is 00:01:21 You threw in like your own cadence and you kind of threw everybody off a little bit. I apologize for that. I fall started. Yeah, yeah I did. You should have flagged me for five yards, you're right. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry about that. Mikey A is in a hurry.
Starting point is 00:01:36 He said, let's go, let's go quickly. And so I did five, four, three. Yeah, that's what happened. Is he? And then you paused to get him to jump. By the way, we're also presented by Spearnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. So you tried to get him to jump by the way we're also presented by speared off the world's number one vodka Please drink responsibly so you try to get Mikey to jump off sides. I did he didn't so I have a false start penalty
Starting point is 00:01:54 Billy I want to share with you, and I can't wait to ask Chris Sims about this yeah a Ridiculous in my opinion take from Mike Fuentes, okay I'll let Fuentes tell you guys the take. You guys tell me what you think of said take and we will ask Chris Sims about it and he will be the final arbiter on this particular topic. Okay. My take was simply that the Eagles defense played so well that any quarterback that made the playoffs would have won that game. And I even gave myself a little out by saying I didn't think Russell Wilson could win that game. Well, that's not any quarterback who made the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:02:27 But now you know what? I've rescinded it and the only one I wouldn't have faith in is Matthew Stafford because he doesn't have legs. Wow. That's the guy. He great arm, but he, you know, Jalen had a lot of third and longs that he converted with his legs.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Just want to be clear. You're confident that Bo Nix would have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs, but you're not confident that Matthew Stafford would have. I'll go one more. I have more confidence in Bo Nix would have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs, but you're not confident that Matthew Stafford would have. I'll go one more. I have more confidence in Bo Nix than I would Jordan Love. Because Bo Nix is better on the ground. Not in beating the Chiefs,
Starting point is 00:02:54 in beating the Chiefs with the Eagles. Yes. With the Eagles, too. You just take out Jalen Hurts and you put in a Bo Nix. Or you put in, obviously, a Josh Allen or a Lamar Jackson. Those guys win easily. I'm eager to see how Chris Sims responds. Well, Mikey A is shaking his head. What's going on over there?
Starting point is 00:03:11 So, peek behind the scenes here. This isn't the first time I've heard this take today. And the first time I heard it, I agreed with it wholeheartedly. Thank you. And now all of a sudden he's telling me, Matt Stafford isn't the guy who's gonna do it. Thank you, right.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And I'm like, you know what? You're changing it. You're making me disagree with you. No, no. Matt Stafford could do it. Just stay with your take. Just stay with it. I would. You'll get my support. I said Matt Stafford's the one I had the least faith in, not that he couldn't do it. No. But he was still doing it.
Starting point is 00:03:37 No, no, no. Russell Wilson was the only one that you might have had to caveat. And you know what? I like that you include him now. Russell Wilson wins wins that game, too Okay. Oh wow. We'll get to this. No, that's a great job out of you Mikey a that's where he needed to take the take He was unwilling to take the take to that take place And so now we're stuck because now it's Mikey a steak and it's not your take and I'm gonna present it to Chris Sims is your Take what does I mean? I have I haven't peeling off quarterbacks I mean, I have a new game that I want to debut today if you guys want to debut a game today This is the game presented by anybody, huh? It is. Thank you for asking. I was gonna get to that It is presented by spirit of the world's number one vodka, please drink responsibly
Starting point is 00:04:16 Do you want to play the game now? Do you want to build up to the game? I do what does is very upset with himself because he keeps peeling off quarter Everybody's in again It's an embarrassment. Everybody's in again. Everybody's in. Now everyone's back in. Mikey already said that. It's his take now.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah, my take. Yes, let's play the game. Yes. Let me ask you guys a question. I have a game for you. Let me ask you guys a question. Was there a quarterback in the playoffs that if you swapped out with Patrick Mahomes
Starting point is 00:04:42 could have beat the Eagles? Yep. No. Josh Allen doesn't beat the Eagles? On the Chiefs. Not a chance. Josh Allen would... Josh Allen on the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes didn't have two seconds to throw the ball. Right. He didn't have two seconds to throw the ball. He also, by the way, like if we're gonna be honest, Patrick Mahomes was trying to be the hero on a number of plays where he had like receivers. Had he looked downfield he probably could have hit or at least thrown to where he just decided I'm Patrick Mahomes I always get out of this I'm gonna get out of this again and he was not getting out of it right but the reason when Travis Kelsey's dropping the
Starting point is 00:05:15 ball left and right you can't even throw it to your you know to your main guy there right but I feel like a mobile quarterback would be you know better adjusted to kind of deal with that defense. No, am I wrong? Like Josh Allen would have had a better game than Patrick Mahomes, right? Because he can run. I don't think there's a quarterback that has been born ever in the history of mankind that could have won that game the way it was being played. I think Jalen hurts on the Chiefs wins that game. No, definitely. Jalen hurts has this thing where like,
Starting point is 00:05:45 he thinks he's faster than he is, but he's just fast enough to get you the yards. He also has this thing called the ring. Yeah. I'll make you a take deal, Stu Gots. You give us that all the other quarterbacks would have won for the Eagles, and we'll give you that Jalen Hurts
Starting point is 00:06:01 would have won for the Chiefs. Hmm. What about Josh Allen? Done. Sold. So Billy, your game here. All right, so I have a new game that I'd like to run by you guys, presented by Smyrnauf. We do game days.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Please drink responsibly. Also, Smyrnauf is the world's number one vodka. And please drink responsibly on that note also. So here's the game. We have played throughout the season if the season ended today of course for years We've played if the season ended today Yeah, this you know it's a good game year after year if the season ended today if the season ended today I have a classic spin on this game really on a classic game spin off, huh? Yeah if the season started
Starting point is 00:06:45 We're on to the next season already boys offseason If the season started today Wow, actually, you know what Wow It doesn't even have to be an offseason exclusive We could do this once the year starts and once the Bengals start like oh and four again We can be like but if the season started today, where would you take? Yeah, exactly, right Oregon, we can be like, but if the season started today, where would you take Burrow and the Bengals? They'd be the best team, yeah. Exactly right. They'd be in the tie for first place, right? Yeah, exactly right.
Starting point is 00:07:09 So I'm gonna, let's try this out today, see how it fits for size, and then maybe we store it away for a rainy day during the season. I like it. Because here's the thing, Smyrnaf, they're in this with us, okay? They're here to present these segments for us.
Starting point is 00:07:25 The world's number one vodka, please drink responsibly. And Smirnoff is presenting that week after week after week. And we're gonna try on if the season started today. And if it doesn't work out, then guess what? Next week, we're gonna have another game also presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka, please drink responsibly. So we're working at the kinks is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:07:43 No, I'm saying that we're gonna try this game on for size. And if it doesn't fit, store it away for a rainy day, maybe we do it during the regular season. But we're still gonna play another game presented by Smirnoff next week. Okay. All right, so let me explain to you how this works. I know how it works.
Starting point is 00:07:57 If the season started today, I'm gonna give you a scenario, if the season started today and then we have to take the team as is, and then project out how they would do if the season started today and then we have to take the team as is okay and then project out how they would do if The season started today. So okay, if the season started today, I Believe Tyron Taylor would be the starting quarterback for the New York Jets. He would be yes. Yeah. Yeah, you just want us to Your team Your team told Aaron to hit the road, Jack.
Starting point is 00:08:26 They did tell Aaron to hit the road, Jack. We'll see if Aaron decides to come back. How would I feel about- No, can't, no more, no more, no more, no more. Well, not to the Jets. Ha ha ha ha. How do I feel about Tyron Taylor? I don't know, I'm numb.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Like, okay. Ooh. Fine, maybe this will work out. Maybe he's the guy. maybe it is Tyron Taylor. Maybe it's always been Tyron Taylor. All right, Flint has inspired me for a new game also. Oh really? We can finish if the season started today.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Yeah, we can finish if the season starts again, but I have a new game, it's called Aaron or Aaron. And I'll explain how that works in a moment. Okay, Mikey, back to you. No, I was just gonna point out There's a team with a worse quarterback situation than the Jets if the season started today. Okay, who's that? The Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, they don't have anybody. That's where Aaron's going. Yeah I believe that I believe but if the season started today, then he's not there. He's not anywhere
Starting point is 00:09:22 Let me ask you guys something on this Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers scenario. If Aaron Rodgers goes to the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers ends Mike Tomlin's winning streak for winning season every year, not having a losing season as a coach, I think that we could kick Aaron Rodgers out of the Hall of Fame, right, for ending that streak.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I'd be okay with that. Unfortunately, this is what happens, and I'm certain Mike EA is gonna relate to this and agree with me on this. No, it's not gonna happen to us. They're not gonna have a season in which they go below 500. They're gonna have a season in which they win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Like that's, I'm just telling you, that's how we're conditioned to think, so. I think if Aaron Rodgers wins the Super Bowl next year, you should shave your head no, okay Billy Billy if you as a Dolphins fan You should be doing everything in your power to get Aaron Rodgers on the Dolphins because it guarantees you a Super Bowl. Yes It will guarantee you need a legitimate by the spy law of Jets You need a legitimate by law of Jets Fandom you win the Super Bowl if you sign yes I don't think that Aaron is going to sign with a team to be a backup
Starting point is 00:10:31 It doesn't seem to be an Aaron's nature, so I really don't know where he's going to end up I think he'd start in Pittsburgh. I do Tennessee I do I do like Mike I like I like the resume not being that he's a five-time MVP or he's won a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP. It's look at what happened when everyone else left the Jets. Folks, did you know that sleep is one of the most important parts of recovery? Whether you're a pro athlete
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Starting point is 00:12:25 that it really happened. Didn't your parents name you Dallas after the Dallas Cowboys? They did. They did. And, you know, coming to Philadelphia where the arch nemesis is the Dallas Cowboys, you hear a lot of Dallas sucks and playing them twice a week. It seems like I get interviewed all the time. Do you care? Does it bother you that your name's Dallas? And I get it read off mean tweets and stuff, so it works out pretty well. I mean, I would, if I was you, wonder,
Starting point is 00:12:52 do my parents love me if they named me after the Dallas Cowboys, you know? That's what I thought because I was about seven years old and I decided to shy away from being a Cowboys fan, switched to the Packers, and I wish I would have been an Eagles fan even longer because it's an amazing city with amazing fans. Tell us what you're doing with Amgen, Dallas.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, so I have Plaxoriasis. I got diagnosed with it when I was 10, and you know, for me, it was always hard, you know, trying to cover them up, show people, and let them know that it's not contagious, it was always hard, you know, trying to cover them up, show people, and let them know that it's not contagious, it's not a big deal, but it was kind of embarrassing having them. And I struggled with topical treatments, trying to put them on every day, trying not to sweat
Starting point is 00:13:37 out of it. Being in a locker room, everybody sees you, and you don't want to be putting on a topical in the locker room and things like that. So you know, I told my doctor about my challenges and now I'm working with Amgen and I talked to my doctor and they were able to prescribe me with something that works for me. And you know, I would just tell everybody to go to Dallas G story.com and they can learn more about my story, more about how I'm dealing with plaques or isis. And then just make sure you go talk to your doctor because there's definitely a solution
Starting point is 00:14:10 that can fit your lifestyle. I was able to find mine and it's been a game changer for me. Excellent job by you. How many hours of sleep have you gotten since Sunday? I think I'm still in the single digits. I've been really enjoying it. I slept a little bit on the plane ride back home, and that's about it.
Starting point is 00:14:27 We've been having a lot of fun. We've been enjoying this victory. Being a Super Bowl champion comes with a lot of fun afterwards. I know you're not surprised that you won the Super Bowl, but are you guys surprised at the way you beat Kansas City? I had full faith in my team. You know, we weren't sure how it was going to go. Being playing the Chiefs,
Starting point is 00:14:51 playing Patrick Mahomes, you know, if it's a close game, it seems like he's always finds a way to pull it off. So I told I told my defense general Carter and Zach Bond, especially I'm like, man, if they don't score, they can't win. And they come back to me and be like, well, if you can score more points and then they can't win. So we had a lot of stuff like that. But the way our defensive line was getting after him,
Starting point is 00:15:11 it was a lot of fun to see. And the offense did their job. I mean, the defense put us in great positions and we took advantage of that. And it was nice not to have a stressful game. After you guys win the Super Bowl, did Vic Fangio smile? Yeah, he did smile. Really?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Congratulations. I don't know. After game, we got him on the stage holding the Lombardi. You know, he did the little coupe dance on stage. It was pretty incredible. Everybody seemed to enjoy it. Go ahead, Billy. Are you guys tired of the whole Nick Sirianni thing? Like your coach is taking to two Super Bowls in three years,
Starting point is 00:15:51 and everybody's been wanting him to get fired in Philadelphia. You know, I'm going to say the same thing for my quarterback, too. Keep doubting him because I think it fuels to their fire. But no, ever since Sirianni got here, he's been an incredible coach. He made me a better player for sure. The things he does in the locker room to get us close, to connect, and then, you know, he's just so detail-oriented.
Starting point is 00:16:16 He's a competitive guy. Everything that he does in the meetings just relates so much to us. Obviously, the outside world doesn't get to see what we see from him every day so there's a little bit of scrutiny from the outside but hopefully he put the doubters to rest. You know two Super Bowl appearances, one Super Bowl win in the first four years, playoffs all four years. It's a credit to him and credit to you know the entire organization for
Starting point is 00:16:42 helping construct such a great team that was able to do something so special. Who was partied the most on your team since Sunday? Who's the person? Man, I'm gonna have to go with Saquon Barkley. Really? Shotgunning beers in the locker room to just having an incredible night. It's been special. It's been cool that he was able to come and bring such a positive impact to our team and this is Sesiad this year. He made
Starting point is 00:17:10 sure to enjoy it after the game. What's been the biggest perk since winning the Super Bowl so far? Good one. That is a good one. You know getting to hang out with you guys. I wouldn't want to. Yeah of course. Well done my e-dollars. Go on. It's been a while. Just the support I've gotten from my family, my friends, people from my hometown community has been, it's been special the way, you know, they just supported me and they come out and you know, it's just, it's just all love, which, which is incredible. So Saquon obviously had an incredible year, but you guys sound like Saquon, like, you know, you could show up in the Super Bowl too. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:47 Like people were waiting for you to score. Where they shoot their 200 yard games. Like a big game maybe, I'm gonna put a stamp on that too. Yeah, you know, he probably wanted to have a bigger game. You carried him Dallas, you carried him. Just you carried him. He was really instrumental for us all year
Starting point is 00:18:04 and the Chiefs were definitely doing a lot to try to take him away. And when you do that, it opens up, you know, Smitty, AJ on the outside, Jahan Dotson had an incredible game as well. And, you know, people say Jalen can't do it, but even with Saquon not having the best day them taking him away, Jalen was able to get it done for us. When you look back at this playoff run, there's like dumb things that happen.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And then you see like the media and how the fans react. Looking back to AJ Brown reading a book on the sideline after a game. Do you look back at that and think, okay, that was ridiculous and it didn't really bother us at all. Yeah, obviously the fans, AJ had one catch that game, I think, and they assumed that's why he was reading the book.
Starting point is 00:18:48 He was upset, but he does it all the time. You know, he tries to find ways to keep himself in the game because as a receiver, as a player on a team, as good as ours and as a competitor that he is, he wants the ball, he wants to have an impact in the game. And, you know, that's just the way the game flows, it always changes. And I think that's just a way that he found
Starting point is 00:19:13 that he can stay calm, stay in the moment. And when his numbers called upon, it seems like he always makes the play for us. So if reading the book helps him, he'll do it. It was cool to see everybody else buy the book and all the, you know, he even brought it out of the Super Bowl, which was pretty funny. So good.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Do you think Kellen Moore, what kind of head coach will Kellen Moore be? I think he'll be a great head coach. He was, you know, I tried to convince him to stay one more year with us and I'll run it back, but you know, it's awesome. It's an incredible opportunity that he has, so happy for him. But ever since he stepped in the building, he was great.
Starting point is 00:19:49 He did a great job dissecting the film from the last three years, figuring out things that worked really well for us, figuring out things that didn't work, and adding his own twist to everything. He was really important to the run we went on, and I wish him nothing but success unless he plays us. Dallas we'll have you promote Amgen one more time on the way out here but I'm wondering why do you think Jalen Hurts you mentioned
Starting point is 00:20:10 this before about Jalen and Nick Sirianni why do you think he doesn't get the credit he deserves two Super Bowls three years beat Patrick Mahomes and didn't just beat him blew him out and yet we're not talking about Jalen Hurts we're talking about everyone else. Yeah. I don't know why, why either of them get the hate that they do. It's Philadelphia, you know, nobody likes us, but we don't care. You know, it's, I'm not sure why they don't, but, you know, I keep telling them, keep doubting because both of them love to prove their doubters wrong. The guy you're most concerned about on Friday for the parade, who's the guy you're most
Starting point is 00:20:44 concerned about? Chaun the parade. Who's the guy you're most concerned about? Chauncey Gardner Johnson, you know if he gets the mic in his hand, you don't never know what he's gonna say He's passionate. He loves to talk so Most concerned about him, but also most excited excited to see what he's gonna say You're a good man. Congratulations to you. You're a world-league champion in a great city What a great city to do it on Friday, but one more time on the way out Amgen. Tell us what you're a good man. Congratulations to you. You're a world champion in a great city. What a great city to do it on Friday but one more time on the way out. Amgen, tell us what you're doing. Yeah, I'm taking Amgen medicine and I'm partnered with them to help others learn about
Starting point is 00:21:14 plasoriasis because it's something that's important to me and I encourage people to visit Dallas G story.com and talk to their doctor and find something that works for them. Dallas, you agree with me. The fans that fired Sirianni at two and two, they should not show up to the parade. Yeah, don't bother. They shouldn't show up. We'll take everybody there. Let's have a big old party in the city. Alright, we can't remind them.
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Starting point is 00:23:12 You're right. It's a little different Thursday than normal. Usually I'm doing like my Thursday picks podcast right now. So like I did, I got home. I'm in my home little studio here with my little Christmas unbuttoned boxes twirling for you. Yeah. Notice who's not here. I mean, just that. I mean, what, what is going on now? Where is he now? This big week, Superbowl cap review. Like what, what, where's he doing? Tell me.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He's a producing Levitore. That's what he's doing. Okay. So what does he not normally do? What's he doing? Tell me. He's producing a Leviton. That's what he's doing. Okay. So what does he not normally do? What's he doesn't do that normally on this day? What's going on? I understand. We're always Thursday at 11, 15 a.m. So why is he doing this now and not normally? You're right, because Dan signs his paycheck. So that's why he is doing it.
Starting point is 00:24:00 He needed an executive producer. Normally me and Billy are off on Thursdays because we do the interview with you, we do God Bless Football, but Dan needed both of us today, and one of us had to come and talk to you, and Billy was not the guy, okay? Dan! Okay, so that's why you asked about maybe moving this back just a few minutes to get Billy involved, and I'm sorry. Yes, yes. I scheduled life today, so I have to do that. Sorry. It's been a while since you're right. I know it's been a long time since you get
Starting point is 00:24:30 scheduled life man. Yeah I'm ready for some but I will say this is like the last two days were the first like time I think the whole season where I was a little like man I'm I'm worn out like I'm ready for a break and got next week off, gonna go on a little vacation. I'm looking forward to that, seeing some sun and hanging out in the ocean a little bit. Nice. Sims, what happened to the Chiefs on Sunday? Well, an ass whooping.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I mean, that's really what it is. There's no other way to break that down other than that. I mean, when you, when we've talked about the offense and what, how good they are, the Philadelphia Eagles, they're simple. But then when you talk about the defense, didn't have to blitz the whole game in the modern NFL era. That's insane to play basically in the competitive part of the game, the same coverage, basically 65% of the time, that tells you that they won in the game, like we don't have to change anything.
Starting point is 00:25:28 We think we're far superior than them and we're just gonna do what we do. And there's nothing that'll be done. You know, there's nothing that they can do to affect us. Now, you know, where do you wanna start? The big thing was their defense, the Eagles defense and that Chiefs offense. When you can, you know this,
Starting point is 00:25:44 when you can rush with front four like that and dominate even when the other team keeps in six and seven blockers verse four and you're still getting sacks on Patrick Mahome. Yeah, it's a tough way to live let alone there's no way to run the football either. The Chiefs are one of those teams that take advantage of moments right we've talked about that are so good at situational football and this was one of those games when he went back to film It just always no matter what the play was somebody messed something up. They never played clean football
Starting point is 00:26:15 They never gotten a rhythm. They didn't own the moments the Eagles did and That the plus the Eagles being one of the best, you know, orchestrated teams I've seen in the free agency era, that leads to, you know, a 40 to six early fourth quarter lead. Sims, I hate to make it so simple, but who's to blame? Who's to blame for the Chiefs for, as you put it, an ass whooping?
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah, I think that one, I think what we see too, and the Chiefs are an enigma. I mean, that's the thing too. The Chiefs, what they've done the last two years is odd. I've never really seen a team do what they do. Go to the Super Bowl without ever really dominating anybody throughout the full year, right? Winning 15 games without really having one dominant win. That's odd for a team with that type of resume. Like we
Starting point is 00:27:06 talked about last year, Mikey, I mean, I know you're with me in this. I never saw a team play C plus and C minus football, and then just turn it on and go win the Superbowl. So I think because of that, and their ability to win some of these clutch moments of these games, I think they might've just looked at their roster in a few spots and goes, oh, we'll get it done, or it's good enough, we're making it happen, right? But they finally ran into their kryptonite here. And I think more, it's more about, it's more about not who to blame,
Starting point is 00:27:37 but just that they need to improve their roster, obviously. And then I think that it gets double affected because the Eagles roster and you've heard me talk about it a lot. It's the best all line in football. It's not close. It's the best D line in football. It's not close. The best dual receivers, the best running back top five tight end, awesome secondary, right? Good linebackers. They're a super team. There's as much as a super team you can get. And then you look at the Chiefs on some plays and you go, wait, their left guard is your left tackle. Oh yeah. A Juju Smith Schuster on the field with Deandre
Starting point is 00:28:18 Hopkins and Travis Kelce. Is there a slower group than that in football when you put it on the field? And then you couple that with we can't pass work and we can't run. And Xavier weren't these the only guy that can make a big play. And I just think they just got out totally outclassed Mikey. I totally outclassed. I couldn't help notice that you, you mentioned all those, they have the best wide receiver duo, the best running back, the best D line, but you didn't mention the Superbowl MVP. You didn't say they have the best wide receiver duo, the best running back, the best D line, but you didn't mention the Super Bowl MVP.
Starting point is 00:28:46 You didn't say they have the best quarterback. You didn't mention Jalen Hurts in that list of accolades. Well, he's a top 10 quarterback for sure. And I usually do list them off and go, Hey, he's a top 10 quarterback. Right now. I know he's a good football player. I've had people this week like, is he an all time great? No, he not an all-time great just because he won the Super Bowl. No, so absolutely not I don't think he should have been the MVP, right?
Starting point is 00:29:12 I mean Josh sweat the defense was the story the star of the game They were up 24 to 10 in the game because the defense delivered two touchdowns for that basically, right? So that's what I'm gonna say. Jalen hurts is very good I give him a lot of credit that he does a lot of good things. But again at no point during the year and now we can't swipe away like five and six weeks during the year where you know the passing game was limited and he didn't play that well and we were questioning their offense and now we're just going to forget that because he won the Super Bowl and he's an all-time great. No, he's a really damn good quarterback on an all-time great team.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And he did he had a good day. There's no doubt about it. And the worst quarterbacks, worst quarterback performances have won the MVP before. So I want to state that I have no problem with him winning the MVP. But just like the the Giants upsetting the Patriots in Super Bowl 42, Eli Manning won that MVP. No, the star of that day was the Giants upsetting the Patriots in Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning won that MVP. No, the star of that day was the Giants D-line. Strayhand, tough, somebody. It was the greatest quarterback ever and the greatest offense ever. And that's what won the game. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:17 And we're in this era in some way or somehow it's like the default mechanism. It just always get the quarterback the award. Mikey A sent me a text He told me to ask the front as question I will not ask the front as question because Mike front as well ask his dumb ridiculous question Go ahead. It's not a dumb ridiculous question, especially not what Sims just said My take is that with the exception of Russell Wilson any quarterback that made the playoffs Would have won that game with how good the Eagles defense played. Oh Jesus. Any quarterback in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:30:47 I don't disagree with that. Bo Nix! I disagree with it either. Bo Nix! CJ Shroud wins that game. I, listen, I was wondering- What are we doing? I was wondering what you were clapping for with me there.
Starting point is 00:31:00 They showed you on the screen. I was like, what's he clapping about? What am I saying? But I understand, yeah. I mean, again, it's, look at what they do. I mean, really. All right. So here's the difference. And I've tried to explain this when people play the Eagles, it's first, those, how do we deal with their own line? How do we deal with Saquon Barkley? Oh, no, they got two receivers on the outside that pose problems to us. And then it gets into, okay, let's talk about
Starting point is 00:31:24 Jalen Hurts. That doesn't happen with any other great quarterbacks in football, that should just tell you. When teams play the Bills, it's like the first three things out of their mouth, they're like Josh Allen, Josh Allen, and Josh Allen, the same with the Ravens, it's like Lamar, Lamar, Lamar. When you talk about teams that have to defend the Chiefs,
Starting point is 00:31:40 they're like, well, we gotta confuse them pre-snap, okay, and then the snap happens, and got to make sure he stays in the pocket because when he gets outside the pocket, he's impossible to stop. Oh wait, but then he gets outside of the pocket, even when you try to stop them. So we got to have a whole bunch of rules from when he gets outside of the pocket. And you know, to your point, and that's what I'm saying, again, Hertz gets the benefit of some of the easiest looks any quarterback will get in football. And then he has two unbelievable receivers on the outside.
Starting point is 00:32:10 It's an incredible advantage. As I've said before, and you hear me say something, you put Josh Allen or Lamar or Mahomes or Joe Burrow on Eagles, we don't need to play the season next year. It's over. They're going to the Super Bowl. They've won. They're going to blow everybody out. That's just the plain and simple fact of nature from me, at least. I guess I should say it's my opinion.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And again, I don't think he's bad. He's damn good. I get that. But I can't over accentuate and explain how great this Eagles football team is. And to the lengths, the Chiefs had to change the way they play and do things just to try to stay in the game and make it competitive. to change the way they play and do things just to try to stay in the game and make it competitive. And of course, they couldn't do that. Chris, my issue is we celebrate Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:32:52 He also had a good team around him. That defense won him back to back Super Bowls and we gave Mahomes all the credit. And now I get it. That that that defense was five points and he scored 38 with receivers. You don't know. Yeah but Jalen hurts out home two years ago. I know and I'm telling you
Starting point is 00:33:11 right. And he blew a 10 point lead that he got a free pass with nobody else in football ever got a free pass for blowing a 10 point lead in the Super Bowl. But Jalen Hurts did. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And I know and I know that yes you're talking about the great defense of the Chiefs. Yes, that gave up 35 points. And the great Mahomes with people playing receiver that, I mean, Kaderius, Tony, Juju, Smith, Schuster, whoa, whoop-de-doo, they scored 38. And that was all because of Mahomes. Against the defense, that was better than that chiefs defense That was on the field there the 85 Bears. That's what everybody told me that defense was last year the 49ers again The defense was really good. Don't get me wrong, but they were down and it was the quarterback again with a cast of a rookie receiver
Starting point is 00:34:01 A tight end that's getting up there in age, and a bunch of other receivers we can't remember. But they won the Super Bowl because they just put the onus on their great quarterback. And that's the difference. One guy, they went, you're so good, we're not gonna help you as much because we think you can cover holes. The other guy is being a quarterback of a team
Starting point is 00:34:22 that had zero holes, zero. And in fact, if you talk to most teams, they would go, he's the hole. It's not a big hole, but he's the hole. That's crazy. But again, when your hole is, oh, he's one of the ten best out of his position in football. Damn, that just tells you how good they are. That's all I'm saying, suga. Chris, my only issue with how we're treating Jalen Hertz after winning the Super Bowl is we all know he's capable of throwing the ball.
Starting point is 00:34:47 He did it, as you and I pointed out, two years ago in the Super Bowl. Outplayed Patrick Mahomes. But he's the thing, like, this is the guy, a symbol for all the things we love about our athletes and sports. He has overcome adversity. He was at Alabama, had success at Alabama.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Saban told him to go to Oklahoma. He went to Oklahoma. He didn't sulk. He made himself a better quarterback, got drafted in the second round, and now he's been to the Super Bowl two times in three years. He's 25 years old, and he just won his first ring. And we're just not giving the guy proper credit. I know. And it's great. And I will continue great. It's almost like the Tua thing with me a little bit. I'm not mad at Jalen Hurts. I'm mad at people trying to tell me
Starting point is 00:35:29 he's an all-time great now, or he's the best quarterback in football. And that's what it is. It's the ultimate team sport. Like, stop. I've never heard, Jim Plunkett won two Super Bowls in four years. I've never heard him mention he's an all-time great.
Starting point is 00:35:42 He won two. He didn't lose one one he didn't blow a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter with the better team on the field. That's all I'm saying again. Jalen hurts is damn good. I don't want to take credit away from him. I get more about what I get
Starting point is 00:35:56 mentioned on social media and those things. And yes Jalen hurts is improved in so many areas and Jalen hurts what he did in the game the other day was yes, he took advantage of all opportunities. But I'm also here to tell you the truth and to let you know that yes, no,
Starting point is 00:36:13 I know he throws the ball better. But again, like off your points, they weren't going, hey, let's make the game tough and throw for 105 yards, you know, in the middle of the season and let's play close games to the Carolina Panthers and a bunch of other teams beneath us because we don't want to throw successfully like that's what you're you're kind of saying and that's where I'm gonna go no no no no no no he didn't play well they weren't playing well we're not gonna give an excuse now
Starting point is 00:36:38 because he played well in the Super Bowl and gets that and he's damn good he took advantage of that I'm also allowed to say that because of what his team is he gets looks that other guys don't get. That's all I'm trying to say. And yes, I'm sorry. I think Josh Sweat should have been the MVP. I'll never two and a half sacks. He's the reason the homes through the second interception
Starting point is 00:37:01 because he drove Joe Tooney basically up my home's ass and then he threw the ball as Tooney was going up his ass and the ball got intercepted. I'm just objecting to Bo Nicks winning that game. That's all. That's that's he's got the legs. He's got the legs. He's got the arm. He would have been there. Oh, yeah. Right. Bo Nicks. I don't know. That might have been a different challenge. I get you there. Got the legs. You're right. Bo Nix. Yeah, I don't know. That might have been a different challenge. I'd get you there. Got the legs. He's got the arm. That's a good one. But, no, I'd probably still take it.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I would. I mean, Bo Nix could throw go routes to AJ Brown and back shoulders to AJ Brown, and then, you know, the defense would still score 14 points for Bo Nix. So, yeah, I don't know if I totally agree with you there, though. Chris, if you had one guy, if you had to select one guy to build your roster, would that guy be Howie Rooseman?
Starting point is 00:37:49 Definitely. I don't think that's even, I mean, they're on next level stuff right now. It's crazy. I mean, they're drafts the last four or five years. I mean, they're insane. I know. It's not like they're picking good players.
Starting point is 00:38:01 They're picking great players. I just think of like one, I mean, Cooper Degene and Quinian Mitchell from last year's first round are staples, long time, we don't have to worry about those two positions in the secondary forever. And they're going to go to Pro Bowls and everything. They draft Jaylen Carter two years ago. He's arguably the best defensive player in football, right? Nolan Smith, the defense end from Georgia in that same draft. He's already up there as one of the best defense ends in football.
Starting point is 00:38:33 The O-line, I mean, yes, he's amazing. And then they make the appropriate moves and free agency to put them over the top. And of course, that was Saquon Barkley. And that's the difference between the last Super Bowl and this Super Bowl, is Saquon and the ripple effects put the Chiefs in even a more uncomfortable position,
Starting point is 00:38:56 like times three compared to the first Super Bowl matchup. And that's what, you know, ultimately led to their demise. Despite their quarterback, do you feel like the Eagles are poised here to make a Kansas City Chiefs like run? They're a, he is number nine quarterback. See, this is why I hear a pain in the ass. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yankees good. Now we always celebrate the quarterback. I'm not gonna give all the credit for the Super Bowl and the whole season now. That's, see, that's where, this is the world we're in now. Wait, I saw two quarters of a game. They were up 24 nothing 14 of which were for the defense, but the quarterbacks amazing. He carried the team there to the Super Bowl the whole year. And that's what
Starting point is 00:39:34 makes my head blow off. That's where I'm like, what? I come on like he's good. He's damn good. He's not an all time great. And he's not one of the five greatest quarterbacks of football right now. He is damn good. And Stu gots, they're going nowhere. Like they're going no, they shouldn't have gone nowhere. What?
Starting point is 00:39:53 Two years ago. I mean, that in itself was a miracle demise or falling apart. But the way they're built, the assets they got to play with. Yeah. The way they're built, the assets they got to play with. Yeah, I mean, Stu Gotts, they got guys that like Milton Williams, their backup D Tackle, who's, I mean, he's a backup for them. He's gonna get like 23 million a year. I mean, he's gonna get 20 million a year. That's how good they are.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It's not only the talent they have as starters, it's the depth, right? And I think we said this last week, if you made a super team between the Chiefs and the Eagles I you know I'm Mikey a help me out who we help who we taking on the Chiefs my homes we're gonna take Creed Humphrey Jones Chris Jones Trent McDuffie after that we're gonna start going I don't know maybe. Is Joe Tuni playing guard or tackle? Oh yeah, Joe Tuni at guard. That would probably be, and then it probably ends about right there.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Maybe Kelsey, maybe, maybe. Maybe, I don't think you take Kelsey over Goddard. Now we're doing this to Kelsey. What is happening around here? Right now? Right now? Right now you're taking Goddard right now over Kelsey. I am. I'm taking Hertz.
Starting point is 00:41:09 We'll beat you. Mikey, it is rare that I have news here when we're when we're talking to Sims on a weekly basis that both you and Chris Sims can react to. The Jets have tweeted out, we have informed Aaron Rodgers that we will be moving in different directions at quarterback Well, didn't we know that didn't Jake laser tell us that on Super Bowl Sunday. Yeah, but now it's like official Yeah, don't yeah McAfee thing and now the Jets they're tweeting it out. This is their Twitter account And they're saying we have told Aaron to move on Not surprised. I mean it seemed like that Now I know Aaron flew up to New York
Starting point is 00:41:46 and had a meeting with the higher-ups in the organization. I thought that in itself was interesting because that at least showed me that, I don't know, was the Jets maybe kicking around the idea of keeping him or whatever? And then, or was it just a call them up to be like, we're moving on, I don't know. Right, I don't really know, and I'll know that at some point here, but I haven't got the inside story there. So I don't know where that goes,
Starting point is 00:42:12 but certainly not surprised. And we know, like Rogers comes with luggage right now. He's not gonna have a big market for him, because a lot of the teams, one, yes, it's down to the end of his career, but two, a lot of people don't wanna it's down to the end of his career but two a lot of people don't want to deal with the Aaron Rodgers traveling roadshow and his State of the Union addresses three times of the week and I think that's gonna hurt him so it'll be Slim Pickens here if Aaron Rodgers is the Eagles
Starting point is 00:42:37 quarterback do they beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl yes I guess I mean but I do think think Aaron Rogers could sit behind great pass protection and throw the ball to AJ Brown. Yeah, I'm sorry. I do. I don't know. Don't apologize. I'm pissed. I'm just mad if what does. Why? Why take us with you? What does he's mad at you that you were right about something publicly on the screen once. And it just drives him crazy. Thank you. I want to know you guys are going to slowly turn like all the two hate onto me with Julie Jaylen hurts.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Are you doing it? All right. I listen. That's Billy's job. That's Billy's job. And he'll take care of it for me. He will. Well, depends on you answer this question.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Does Tua win the Super Bowl if he's the Eagles quarterback? No. Erdogan, think about it. That's so good. I would say so. Again, I don't want to be disrespectful here, but yeah, it was a dominant performance like you saw. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:45 The biggest plays that Jalen Hurts hit are made or some of the ones he made with his legs. Right. Those are the moments where you went, oh, the Chiefs have a chance here to maybe get them off the field and do something and he'd make a big scramble. Those were some of the biggest plays of the day. All right. But yeah, ultimately it was an Eagles team that on both sides of the ball was just in a totally different class
Starting point is 00:44:09 than the Kansas City Chiefs. I'll get off of this in a second, Chris, but this is the quarterback, okay, in a very selfish time where guys want their stats. They don't care as much about winning, I don't think. This is a guy who after the bye week walked into the locker room, told his coach, we need to run the football more,
Starting point is 00:44:26 which means he's not gonna get his, which means he knows this is gonna be the reaction by people after he goes out and wins a Super Bowl. He brought Miles Sanders to a Super Bowl, but he's the guy, the leader of that team, walked in, Nick, we need to run the ball more. There is something to be said for that kind of leadership. I mean, there is.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah, sure, sure. I mean, you know, there's no doubt he's a selfless guy. He's, he's definitely an incredible leader, but like you're trying to make it like, like, oh, he just run the ball and, you know, we'll, we'll sweat it out against some of these teams because we don't we know I said run it so let's not dominate let's keep it close because I said run it and we'll just kind of eke out some of these games where we're in a totally different stratosphere than the other team. So I get that all of that I understand it but to me these are like these are urban legends again and things that come out after the fact, right? No, it's oh did they were you're telling me they were like opting to sweat it out against the
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yes Jaguars in that football game because there's they said let's let's run the ball. Let's not let's not dominate them Jalen said run the ball. So let's keep it close because he said run it see and that's like this is getting into like you know we're getting into the old Tom Brady era like he looked at a guy by the Gatorade bottle and they knew he was saying with his eyes go out there and play better so the defense played better because Brady looked at him by the Gatorade bottle and they knew he wanted them to raise their game and that that's where I started to go, Oh my God, this bulls**t that's out there. So yes, like I get he said that, but you're still trying to justify a bunch of averageness with $50 million receivers and a $12 million tight end that they opted not to do that because
Starting point is 00:46:20 he said run the ball. And that's where I'll throw the challenge flag on you and say bulls**t to God's bulls**t. I'm trying to think about the quarterback where he would draw the line. Caleb Williams. Drake May. Drake May. Does Drake May win that game? Probably. I mean rookies are tough. Rookies are tough right because they're just inexperienced. They that's where you know, will have us will know that I'm not going to give him that. Sorry, I said I said quarterback in the playoffs, but I want to see where I want to see the worst thing we could go.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Keep going. Bryce Young. I have not not going to say that the app I'm not going to give Bryce that credit yet either. I'm not yet. Nope, I give it to Tila I'm not gonna give it to Bryce yet I you know I know we saw four games at the end of the year and now we're ready to say that all things are Good in Carolina, but I'm not gonna go that far yet. I got it Trevor Lawrence
Starting point is 00:47:17 You're funny look at you pick it up for Billy you're such a nice guy there Sims what do you make of the the rumors? The Cowboys? I guess it's news now that the Cowboys are thinking about trading Michael Parsons. I mean, I'm like shocked a little bit. Yeah. I mean, Michael Parsons is the best defensive player in the NFL when healthy, right? If you made me pick one guy to start a team with, I'm either going Jalen Carter or Micah Parsons. But I think it might speak to,
Starting point is 00:47:51 again, there's a lot of holes there in Dallas. There really is. And they gotta pay, I mean, the highest defensive player in football, period. Like that's where it should start. He's better than Nick Bosa. He should be paid higher than Nick Bosa. Are they going to be willing to pay, you know, Dak, CD lamb and,
Starting point is 00:48:11 and Michael Parsons as like the, you know, top three highest at their position. That's tough to do. And like we talked about, there's other needs there. So I don't know if this is like scare tactic to try to get him to lower his asking price or is it real and they're going we got a lot of issues with the team and this is our best asset and we can get a lot of stuff back for him I don't know that yet Micah Parsons for the number three pick to the Patriots who says no Wow that's a
Starting point is 00:48:41 good yeah I mean you're right they might they might think about that I mean that would be game-changing on that side of the. I mean, you're right. They might. They might think about that. I mean, that would be game changing on that side of the ball. I mean, no doubt about it. They have the money. They do have the money. You're right. I don't know if I see that as a Mike Raible type of move. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Like I don't look at him as that kind of guy, but it makes sense. And Michael Parsons, just like my miles, Garrett Garrett everybody in football is going to look at their team and go wait would this make sense for us can we make this work except for a handful of teams. So I hear you there and I'll be interested to see who comes
Starting point is 00:49:16 after Michael Chris if you're the Bengals do you simply franchise T Higgins. Is that what you would do. I would. Yeah I would. Yeah, I would. I'd franchise them. I'd hope to get a long term deal done with them. And then if not, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:32 tag and trade. I think that's the way to go. I mean, the franchise tag number is beneath what he's worked as a receiver. So I think it's like a definite, I would do that. The bangles, hey, they got to figure it out The bangles want to be up there with the big boys in football But I go wait the way your salary is in your team. You have a very short list of high-paid quality football players It's like the shortest of football, right and another stars. They're not even paying them that well, right? Jamar chase we know so hasn't gotten worked out Trey Hendrickson way below market value These are like two of the three highest paid guys on the team
Starting point is 00:50:09 We know Joe burrows really the only guy being paid market value for what he is So the bangles a little bit like the Cowboys like to drag their feet on these contract situations So to the point where it gets the players out on the leverage Instead of getting out in front of it like the Eagles do and go, damn, Devontae Smith is good. We don't need to get to the end of this contract. Let's pay him now so we can maybe save some dollars. Oh, oh, our all-pro left guard, Landon Dickerson,
Starting point is 00:50:39 let's pay him now before he gets the free agency and we have to pay him a load of money. And that's why the Eagles are the Eagles and some of the good teams, the Ravens, other teams, they get out in front of these things. And the Bengals and Cowboys wait to the players as good as they could possibly be with the best leverage they could be. And then they go, oh, we can't figure out a contract. And that's just a hard way to win a Super Bowl that way.
Starting point is 00:51:02 As you know, the the playoffs, I think like 50% on average, like half the teams that made it this year won't make it next year. And some new teams will sneak in. So I just wanna ask you, and we're getting ahead of ourselves because we just finished up this year, but I am wondering when you look ahead to next year,
Starting point is 00:51:18 if I tell you the Carolina Panthers are gonna make the playoffs, would you say I'm nuts? I wouldn't say you're nuts. Okay. I would not. I don't think they're as far off as people realize the old lines pretty damn good. The D line when Derrick Brown is healthy, right? It's not bad either. They can use some adjust a few adjustments there, but I think you look at that and like wide
Starting point is 00:51:44 receiver, right? And just to get they got to get a few playmakers out there. I don't think they're far off to being competitive. I wouldn't like say next year's a playoff year, but I wouldn't call you crazy. I would almost look at it and go two years from now. Watch out. Caroline, I think by then could get the roster in the spot that could be legit in a real real playoff team.
Starting point is 00:52:05 All right. Would you be surprised if the Patriots make it next year? Absolutely not. I mean, I mean, they're going to be, you know, my thoughts. I mean, Brayville is a guy that's capable of coaching a team that's less than and getting them to the playoffs. Yes. So, so no, I would not be shocked with that quarterback.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Some of the moves they'll make this off season and the new culture there under Brayville, I wouldn't be shocked with that quarterback. Some of the moves will make this off season and the new culture there under Grable. I wouldn't be shocked if they were a team that exceeded expectations almost like a Denver Broncos did this year and sneak into the playoffs their first year when they shouldn't have. How about the Falcons? I certainly wouldn't be surprised there. I don't think the Falcons are far off at all. I mean, Michael Penex, I think, will make their offense more dangerous and explosive. They need a pass rusher. Really, when you look at them, that's like the only thing they
Starting point is 00:52:48 need. Maybe a pass rusher, maybe another corner, but they're close. They are really close. So I would definitely wouldn't be shocked if Atlanta got in next year. Cowboys. Not shocking, but like, you know, I feel like it's, it's lesser than Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I got to see things with Dallas. I mean, one, Dak coming off injury, two, who's the running back, three, they don't really have a receiver on the roster that most people on the street know other than CD Lamb. All right, the defense, we've been talking about their inability to stop the run for like five years now because the defense of tackles.
Starting point is 00:53:31 So no, I don't think it would be shocking if they got it, but again, I don't think I'd bet on it. I don't think they're there yet. So what you're saying is you don't agree with Dak when he said that they're just as good as the Eagles. No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. They're not in the same class. Now, they've been competitive against the Eagles, right? Because hey, they're a division team and all that, but no. I think in totality, again, you heard me say it, this is an Eagles team that I'd put up there with
Starting point is 00:54:04 any team that we've seen in the modern day free agency salary cap era. All right, just one the other way and we'll get you out of here. Check him out, PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock, the Unbuttoned podcast. Would you be shocked if the Chiefs didn't make the playoffs next year?
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah, I would be shocked. I would. It's gonna happen. They're a playoff team, but they got to change some things on their roster to become like a dominant Super Bowl caliber team. It can't just be, hey, we're going to keep the game close and we just believe when it's close, Mahomes will make magic and pull it through. That's kind of how they've lived the last few years. And it's just, it's going to be hard to beat teams like the Lions, the Ravens, the Eagles, and the way they're
Starting point is 00:54:50 built right now playing that style of football. Who, because those teams are also good at close games, yet they have a big time talent advantage. And that's where the chief's definitely got to make some adjustments to the roster. Mikey A, he is off to get his haircut. How much do you think? How much do you believe Chris Sims tips the person who cuts his hair? What do you think? Oh, it's it's high. He's really good tipper.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I could tell. Right. Sims is a guy to take. He's a guy that does hundred dollar handshakes. I tip well. I mean, about it, there's an expectation that comes with being a Sims, right? Like they know who you are. Right. I mean, well, I mean, yeah, my dad at an early age. I tip well. Not bad about it. There's an expectation that comes with being a Sims, right? Like they know who you are, right? I mean.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Well, I mean, yeah. My dad at an early age told me don't tip, over tip, right? He taught me a lot of these people that you gotta tip are doing jobs that you don't wanna do. And be grateful for that. So I, yeah, I try to be, that's the one way I try to give back. I do. I'm the guy, I mean, I go around, yeah. I, yeah, I try to be, that's the one way I try to give back. I do. I'm the guy, I mean,
Starting point is 00:55:46 I go around, yeah, I go around, I tip the guy that cuts my hair pretty good. I tip the woman that washes my hair before the haircut pretty good. Nice. Right? I'm one of those guys. I am. And, you know, I try to help out in some way, somehow. What does it blow? Let me know if you ever need me to give you a hair wash or something. Right, I'll wash your hair. How much do you tip for a hair wash?
Starting point is 00:56:07 That's the last thing I want. That's one thing, like, you know, because every now and then they have, like, a guy washing my hair, and I'm like, come on. All these girls around, and I can't get one of them to wash my hair right now. I gotta deal with some, you know, gross guy that probably had his fingers in his nose a few minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I don't want guys watching. You're not objecting to guys. You're objecting to what guys do with their hands. You're right. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I mean, I see too many guys that pull this move off right here, put their hands and then they slick their hair with it. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, you're disgusting. I get out of here. Yeah, I've done it. What does this shock the person who washes your hair. No, I'm just surprised of the two-stage haircut. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:56:50 At times, I think I am maybe too generous, and then I'm like, well, this is what they expect, so I got to keep doing that. That's what my wife subs to me sometimes. She's like, you're a generous tipper already. Now when you leave a tip like that, they expect it every time. And yeah, I'm kind of like a when I go out to
Starting point is 00:57:09 dinner and stuff like that, I probably text a tip like 35 40%. I'm kind of one of those guys. Right. It dawned on me that he goes to a salon. He doesn't go to a barber shop. You go to a salon. I did. I did. I just, you know, I just figured, hey, I'm on TV. I'm gonna spend a few extra dollars with somebody I just trust a little bit more. Right? It's part of the job.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, part of the job. You know, barber, I've had a mistake or two over the years when I've gone to see the barber. Where I just, you know, being on NBC, I don't wanna trust that right now. All right, so it's a hundred dollar haircut, right? Like it has to be, at least. It's a hundred dollar haircut. It's a hundred dollar haircut, right? Like it has to be at least it's a hundred dollar haircut.
Starting point is 00:57:45 It's a hundred dollar haircut and I'll be quite honest with you. Here you go. I give my hair color $40 and I give the woman that washes my hair 20. Excellent job by you Sims as you show. It might be bougie, but I've been fortunate in my life. I grew up with a silver spoon in my mouth, right? Uh, in my, in growing up under big Phil Yeah, and I've been fortunate enough to where my life is gone. So I try to get back in those moments All right
Starting point is 00:58:10 Now if the washer of the hair picks his nose beforehand then that sticks is are you still tipping on the 20 bucks? I am I'm so really I am probably just cuz I'll feel bad and I'll probably make all right Well, there's soap in the shampoo, so his hands not that dirty. But I might say something, you know me, I'm not scared. I'm not scared to say something. Like I have said to the guy a few times, like, damn, you got to wash my hair. I can't get one of these girls to do it. And they laugh. And I'm like, no, I'm dead serious actually. All right. PFT with Mike Floreo every day on Beacock, the Unbuttoned podcast. It is off season Chris Sims.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I like off season Chris Sims. Hey, off season, you know what? It's not off season for very long. I got a week off and then it's right to the combine and start doing free agency and drafts. So we'll be right back at it on my podcast, that's for sure. All right, buddy, another great year. We appreciate everything you've done
Starting point is 00:59:04 for our show over the years, and we will talk to you as we get closer to the NFL draft, and as we get closer to baseball season. You don't know it yet, but you're doing a baseball segment with me and Billy, okay? Oh, okay, all right, all right, sounds good. I mean, if Billy shows up, I mean, really, f*** you, Billy, for not showing up
Starting point is 00:59:20 for my last appearance here for a while. What a jerk. Mikey A, true professional, as always, as expected. Stu Gotts, tell me where to sign up for the Jalen Hurts fan club and I'll join in with you, all right? But, you Billy. Both of you, you and Fuentes, I mean, seriously.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Stick together, Fuentes, me and you, baby. Bonix. See ya. All right, Stu gots. Yes. We're running out of time here. OK. And we debuted a new game.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I teased another game. I don't know if we have time to play that game if you want to today. I found out a lot from Chris Sims that he gets $100 haircuts. He does. He also agreed with Mikey A's take, which infuriates me, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I'm sorry. Just wrong. Jalen Hurts not getting any credit. Anyway, let's play the game. Oh, you wanna play the game? Yes. How often do you think these hundred dollar haircuts occur? For Sims yeah, I would say once every two to three weeks
Starting point is 01:00:29 I was talking to Flint is off-air and we think because of the fact that he's on Football night in America that they may be weekly Perhaps like he may have a good $400 a month budget for his haircut now hold on did he give you specifics like is it? $100 plus tip or that's including tip? $100, $40 tip for the hair cutter and $20 for the wash. I think all encompassing for everybody. No, I think it was around $100.
Starting point is 01:00:54 I'm not sure, you might have been right though. No, $100 with a 40% tip, $40 for the person who cut his hair and $20 for the person who washes his hair. Yeah, because if not he'd be giving a $60 tip on a $40 haircut. Crimsonism's not getting a $40 haircut. He said he's a good tipper. Yeah, well.'d be giving a $60 tip on a $40 haircut. Crimsonism's not getting a $40 haircut. He said he's a good tipper. Yeah, well.
Starting point is 01:01:07 He's giving a $40 tip on a $100 haircut, so. 40% for those doing the math. What can I be like not great at professionally and then just talk about at an elite level where I become super rich? I need to find that. Right, I've done it. Football.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Okay, so here's my game. It's called Aaron or Aaron. Oh wow. All right. Wow, new game. Now I'll ask you a question. Dropping them all out today, huh? I'll ask you a question and then you have to tell me
Starting point is 01:01:40 if you would trust Aaron Glenn or Aaron Rogers. But just tell me Aaron, I'll take Aaron on that one. So Aaron or Aaron? Yeah, so the Jets just played a game, they were the originals that played this game of Aaron or Aaron where they said, you know what, we need a new head coach, not sure what we're gonna do with the direction
Starting point is 01:02:01 of this franchise, we have Aaron Glenn here, we have Aaron Rogers, Aaron Rogers by the way was told, and to Andrew Rusini I believe is the one that have Aaron Glenn here, we have Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, by the way, was told, and DeAndre Rusini, I believe, is the one that reported this, told, hey, if you wanna stay on the Jets, no more Pat McAfee show. And I guess that he said, no, I'm gonna keep doing that. And they said, okay, well then,
Starting point is 01:02:18 in the original game of Aaron or Aaron, we're going with Aaron. Yes, they chose Aaron. And they went with Aaron Glenn, and they said, Aaron, hit the road, Jack. Yep. Yeah. Because that's how you do it when you play Aaron or Aaron. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Losing Aaron always has to hit the road. Hit the road, Jack. That person is gonna be smearing off the world's number one vodka. That's good to know, yes. Just drink responsibly. Okay. Okay, so if it were up to you guys,
Starting point is 01:02:39 Mikey A and Stu Gotz, and you had to choose Aaron, Glenn, or Aaron Rod Rogers to lead your team next year. Would you go Aaron or Aaron? I'm going Aaron. Yeah, I'd go Aaron. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Yes, yep. All right. Now, if you wanted someone to lead your team in a rousing speech to get the troops ready. Yes. Now you've known one for three years, the other one not as long. Are you going Aaron or Aaron? It has to be Aaron. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:03:15 It's easily Aaron. I can't choose Aaron Donald. It could be Aaron Donalds, too, if you'd like. Well, in that case, I'm taking Aaron. Can it be Hank Aaron? Hammer and Hank could be. I'm going'm taking Aaron. Can it be Hank Aaron? Hammer and Hank could be. Huh, I'm gonna take Aaron.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Alright. Yes. So Aaron. Mikey? Aaron. Yeah. It's Aaron. All day Aaron.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Okay, now off the grid iron here, which is another segment that we can play later on in the off season, but off the grid iron here, vacation time's coming around. Who are we vacationing with, Aaron or Aaron? Aaron. God bless football. God bless football.

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