The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF: Mock Draft 1.0

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

Mike Golic recaps the Super Bowl from his view on the sideline. Field Yates gets us ready for the draft with hick mock draft 1.0. Austin Ekeler discusses mutual friends and whether or not the guys are... in his neighborhood. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to DraftKings Network. So I wanted to take a moment here before we get to this week's episode of God Bless Football. We'll have Mike Golik on. We'll have Field Yates on talking draft. We'll talk to Austin Eckler as well. I did want to take a moment to let the city of Kansas City, and especially the ones impacted at the tragic events earlier this week, at the Chief Super Bowl Parade,
Starting point is 00:00:30 that on behalf of everyone on the show, me of course, Billy, Mikey A, everyone, all the voices you hear, everyone associated with this show, behind the scenes as well, that our thoughts, our prayers, our hearts are with you Kansas City. They have been with you for a couple of days now. They'll continue to be with you moving forward. I can tell you as someone who went through this six years ago, Stoneman Douglas High School in my
Starting point is 00:00:59 city where I live in Parkland, unfortunately I am one of the few people in some way, shape or form that can relate to what it is you are going through. And I know how difficult it is and I am so sorry that you have to go through this. So sorry. And once again, we will get to the football here in a second. but on behalf of everyone associated with this show, I wanted to let you all know that city know, especially the ones impacted by what happened earlier this week, that our thoughts and our prayers and our hearts are with you.
Starting point is 00:01:39 God bless Kansas City. Kansas City. God bless football, Billy Gil. God bless football, Mike Goliq. God bless football. I can't believe it's over. Mike, yeah. Yeah. God bless football, Stu.
Starting point is 00:02:04 God's now I'm depressed. Yeah. Yeah. God bless football, Stu. God's now I'm depressed. Yeah. Well, you're depressed. Why are you depressed? Because football's over. Because he just said it's over. Like, yeah, but this is the season we always win, Mike. The offseason. I mean, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Always something, always something until until late June till mid July, where we all do the Mount Rushmore of something as we try and kill time before training camps open. Right. How was Valentine's Day? I heard you were hammered. We got a little drunk. We did a Sorry in Advance.
Starting point is 00:02:34 We did a family podcast, which Mikey A produces for us. And we started a couple of years ago with Sugarlands Distillery. They make a high rock vodka in partnership with Dale Earnhardt Jr. and they sponsored our golf tournament for the first two years at Notre Dame. Came and set up a bar at our house and such and they do sipping cream as well. And so we started drinking and as that got going, there was cake there as well. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 00:03:11 So at one point, I think it was my son, Mike, put cake in the blender and we put booze over the top and we blended it. Nice. And it tasted pretty good. Right. So that was kind of the genesis of the birthday cake
Starting point is 00:03:25 sipping cream, which the Golic family, we are the ambassadors for that for Sugar Lines Distillery. So March 9th is their 10 year anniversary. And that's when the Golic family birthday cake sipping cream will hit the stores. So yeah, there you have it. So Chris and I were drinking as we were talking to the rest of the family. And, uh, and yeah, we had a few shots and, um, nothing like having a hangover
Starting point is 00:03:55 11 in the morning. They couldn't stop at one. They couldn't. It was very good. Very good. So what'd you do the rest of the day? I mean, slept. Oh, yeah. I mean, slept. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah. All right. Talking about run or something. I mean, it was. It was. It was. It was. It was.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was.
Starting point is 00:04:22 It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. at night. It's impossible. No one's ever done it before. I don't remember the last time I drank in the morning. It probably was college. So I mean, Chris and I are 61 and 60. How do you think that hit us drinking in the morning? We were floored. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:04:38 It's Gojo's fault though, I feel like. That's exactly right. And you also, you got into business with a vodka company, I mean. So that's the expectation, right? I mean, we're the right people for it. I tell you that much. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:51 They have to do quality controls to go. It's like they have to make sure everything's on the up and up before it gets released. Boom. Make sure they're happy with their product, right? It's exactly right. We're very happy. How was your Super Bowl experience?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Calling the game. We saw in your Vegas, how was the calling Calling the game. We saw you in Vegas. How was the calling of the game? I mean, listen, it's always great because normally when I call games, I'm in the booth. So now the biggest game of the year for the last three years now, I've been on the field. It's nice when you kind of have a nod and an acknowledgement of people when they walk by. Jay-Z and I had a nice little eye contact moment of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It was, that was a cool moment there. And you know, Post Malone did a great job with God Bless America. The halftime show was weird in there. The acoustics weren't great in the stadium. So while I knew the songs, you could tell the beat of the music, what they were, you couldn't really, I don't know how it sounded on TV, but you couldn't really hear the words that well now. Listen, he's a phenomenal dancer and then you get, you know, Alicia Keys there and Ludacris and it was, that part of it was very cool. Loved watching the dancing, but couldn't
Starting point is 00:06:02 hear the words very well. And then the game I mean listen, it's just fun to be on the sideline and I love looking at interaction You know of what's going on in the sideline, you know that first half when Travis Kelsey and and Starts yelling at Andy and X accidentally bumps them and people are kind of talking to Travis other players after that. That was a big moment. But that stuff, people who are new to this, all of a sudden I heard on talk shows, oh my God, did you see Travis Kelsey assault Andy Reid?
Starting point is 00:06:40 I'm like, oh my God, this is like sports people trying to go and talk politics, you know? It's just a bad idea. So this is people outside the world of football who are now all of a sudden feeling like Travis Kelsey is an abuser of older men and they fear for Taylor Swift's life. It just blows my mind. Now, did what Travis do was out of line,
Starting point is 00:07:03 even Jason and his brother when they talked on their New Heights podcast, admitted it was, but this happens. This happens during the game and then it's over. So while I didn't even give it a second thought, my God, because it's obviously the biggest game and you have more casual fans, did that thing blow up? Wow. It's the first time I've heard someone say accidentally. It did appear to be an accident. Like he was just he was he was super he was he was
Starting point is 00:07:29 Mike he was upset. He wanted he wanted Andy to get him the ball. Now he did do a good job of expressing himself. He was very emotional but it did appear to be an accident. It did. Without a doubt and people this happens almost every game in some sort of way. Players pulled apart from each other, pulled away from a coach. This just happened to be on the most viewed game of all time. So there were a ton of eyes on it, but he is an emotional guy. He had one catch and one target, you know, in that first half,
Starting point is 00:07:58 where even when they only scored 17 points and won against Baltimore, he had 11 catches in that game. Now we saw in the second half, he got the ball a lot more, but he stayed in and he chipped on Bosa a little bit in the first half and he just wasn't getting a ball lot. And he's a guy that's going to the Hall of Fame. He was a great player who wanted the ball and you know, you frustration builds,
Starting point is 00:08:19 he's an animated guy and that's what happened. I didn't give it a second thought until you start seeing all the stuff around it going, oh my God, people, relax. It doesn't look good. I get it is not a good look at all. But that stuff happens. And then Kudos in the second half
Starting point is 00:08:34 because all week we kept talking about who we pick and I remember I picked it, Buffalo over KC, then I picked Baltimore over KC. Obviously I couldn't pick the Super Bowl, but it's always like, yeah, I't pick the Super Bowl, but it's always like, yeah, I want to pick the other team, but Pat Mahomes. And while the defense had been great, I mean, great in the postseason, the end of that game, man, that was Pat Mahomes with the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yep, doing what he does. Mike, we had this conversation with LeBetard on our main show here, and I'm wondering, can you be an all all time great defensive? Patrick Mahomes is your quarterback. Because you're right, the defense performed at such a great level, but what we'll remember is that final drive and Patrick Mahomes winning his third Super Bowl. That's exactly right, but you have to put to it. I mean, football people will put to it for the fact
Starting point is 00:09:20 that San Francisco only got a field goal in their first drive. Yeah, that's a really good team, San Francisco. From top to bottom, the best roster in the game and Kansas City tightened up when they should have in overtime and held them to a field goal. I mean, this, we measure so much by postseason, right? And that's the one thing we talked against San Francisco in the postseason. All of a sudden they were giving up a lot more in the running game, you know, going
Starting point is 00:09:46 that way. Kansas City in the regular season gave up 17 points a game. In the postseason, average given up 13 points a game going into the Super Bowl. And in the second half of games going into the Super Bowl, they were averaging giving up 3.3 points per game. So they were trending incredibly well. Spagnolo, now early in the game, didn't do the normal, you know, get after it pressure. He didn't. The second half, he
Starting point is 00:10:10 switched it up. Me, you make adjustments and it worked well. You just wonder why in a off season of eight head coaching job openings that Spagnolo wasn't considered for any of them. Sure. Yeah, it's interesting. Mike, how close were you to the Andy Reed? Like, were you close when Andy Reed and Kelsey kind of collided there? No, I was, that happened on kind of one side of the sidelines. I was on the other side.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I just saw kind of the aftermath of it. Okay. And then I had seen, as it calmed down there, other players like, you know, putting their arm around Kelsey basically, I'm sure trying to tell him, calm down, calm down. But I, yeah, I was, I was probably about 30 yards away from it. What'd you make of Kyle Shanahan's decision to take the ball first and overtime? It appeared Mike that he didn't know the rules to overtime.
Starting point is 00:11:01 His team was confused. Everyone was confused. What'd you make of that situation? No, he knew the rules, but as he said, he never really expressed them to his team. So- That's a bad job, Mike. I'm sorry, that's part of your job. Okay, but let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I agree you want your team to know everything, but now let me ask you this. What difference does it make? Does it change the way they play? The coaches decided they wanted the ball first. If you want to say that's a mistake. It is. Okay, okay, but understand this.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And you heard Kyle's reasoning, I wanted the ball third. Right? They scored a field goal, if they had held KC to a field goal, now it's sudden death, and San Francisco would have got the ball first, in sudden death, next score wins also. But Mike, you're not guaranteed a third possession, he's playing for something that doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I understand that, but let's throw this into the equation. Not many people, you know, I didn't hear that, I brought it up, but I didn't hear many people bring it up. What, at the end of regulation, you go to overtime, they don't wait, right? You go out in the coin toss and you start playing right away. Does everybody remember what happened at the end of regulation?
Starting point is 00:12:14 The San Francisco defense was on the field for 11 plays in a minute and 50 seconds. They were on the field a lot in a short amount of time, a lot of plays in a short amount of time. They were dead dog tired at that point. So now, with no rest coin toss, that the norm would be defer, you would be putting them right back on the field again, after that drive. So I hear a lot of people talking about that, that's tough call, when you have the choice
Starting point is 00:12:46 to maybe sit them and rest them. So I gotta believe that went into the equation as well. These guys were just smoked after that drive and you were to put them right back on the field. What's not a tough call though is when you get it down fourth and goal, you have to go for it there. You're giving Mahomes, all Mahomes has to do
Starting point is 00:13:02 is go down and get a touchdown which he did Mike You have you you cannot kick a ball going that spot. I disagree get the lead You know what you could you're in the Super Bowl, okay? Yeah, which means you have a really good team Make a stop. Mm-hmm. I If you tell me any day of the week, I have the lead after our first drive in overtime of the Super Bowl I'm gonna take it. I know it's Pat Mahomes, but you know what Pat Mahomes didn't do every drive of that game? Score. They were not good in the red zone. They got one red zone touchdown because of a punt that bounced off of a San Francisco 49ers gunner. So they got the ball right in the red zone there
Starting point is 00:13:43 and scored the next play. Other than that, they fumbled in the red zone and they had to kick three field goals in the red zone. Then they got the touchdown in overtime, but I don't mind putting it on your defense. Listen, at the end of the day, should they have deferred probably, but I'm not going to completely crucify. You got the lead in overtime. Make a stop. I know, but you can't be the genius coach and say come out and actually say I was playing for the third possession. You can't there's no guarantee third possession. I agree with that. But I am I am certainly not on Kyle as much as everybody else.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I definitely am not. I think Kyle thought if they scored a touchdown on an opening drive, the game was over. It was a walkoff. It would have been great. Gatorade bat the whole thing. I mean, I disagree. Kyle, I don't think Kyle knew the rules. They're talking about all the chiefs. We're saying all the chiefs knew the rules. Nicole Hartman didn't know the game was over when he scored his touchdown. Right. Well, everybody's talking about he didn't know it was over. Like I said, we want to make a big thing that San Francisco didn't know,
Starting point is 00:14:45 if they didn't know the new overtime rules, what did that matter when the defense was on the field trying to stop Patrick Mahomes? I'm not saying it matters. I'm saying perhaps it would change your strategy as a coach as to what you would do. That's all I'm saying. Right. Well, and that's on the coach. Right. Well, yes. It doesn't change what players do on the field. I understand. Did you get close enough to Taylor Swift? Like were you close to her after the game? What happened? Here's the downside of that.
Starting point is 00:15:11 So immediately we go on the field and do some interviews and I got Chris Jones right away. And I did get McCall-Harbner who was phenomenal explaining the play and everything. He was great. Started the season as a jet. Exactly. But then I have to go in.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I'm the one that always goes in and interviews the losing coach. Right. So I had to go in by the 49ers locker room. And before he does his presser for everybody, he talks to the TV network, which was CBS, he gives them a few minutes and then he gets Westwood one a few minutes. So I get a one on one with the losing coach. So I had to go in to do that. And after I was in that that takes a while because it doesn't come
Starting point is 00:15:48 out right away. By the time I went back out on the field, Taylor was already off the field. So I did not get the encounter with Taylor Swift. I was a little bummed at that. Why did Shanahan take so long? Was he figuring out responses to why he didn't know the rules to overtime? I mean, listen, by comparison, he came out a lot sooner than Nick Sirianni did the year before and I had to introduce him by a by about a half hour. So listen, I know Kyle's going to get dumped on the bottom line for Kyle is he's been in three Super Bowls, two as a head coach, and he's had the lead and he lost it and his third down conversion rate.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yes. Overall, in those three games is 25%. And in this game, I think he was three at 12. So listen, he's got a lot of other issues outside of making sure to tell his team about overtime rules. You know, he's got some some some things to take care of on the field as well. And some clock management stuff as well. But Andy Reed, we said these things about Andy Reed many, many years ago, and what Shanahan needs to do is go get himself Patrick Mahomes again.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Well, I mean, isn't that the thing? I mean, yeah, it really helped everybody's game when you have Pat Mahomes. I mean, it's so wild on what good it can do when you have a quarterback like that. It helps you out so much. I mean, so right now Andy Reed and Mahomes are halfway to Tom and Bill, right?
Starting point is 00:17:11 So, I mean- Mahomes is not halfway there yet. He still has four more to go, but- No, I'm talking about Mahomes and Andy as a coach quarterback. As a tandem, yes. As a tandem, Bill and Tom have six. Correct. And these two have three.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So yeah, I know he needs that extra one to catch Tom, but I'm talking about the coaching tandem right now. And let's remember that extra one needs to be, you know, with Carolina or something like that, OK? Yeah, how about it? And let me ask you guys this real quick. You know that documentary Dynasty is coming out about the Patriots?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yes. And you've heard all the stuff about Tom saying I wasn't gonna resign with New England and Bronx saying I'd get to work and I didn't wanna get out of the car and all the talk about how they were treated and how rough it was and this and that, of which first I say I'll take all that to get me a Super Bowl ring,
Starting point is 00:18:01 but I get it after a few you might get tired of it. It all leads me to this question because of the way Bill coached and the way Bill is and the way Bill is not going to change. Do we think Bill's ever going to get another coaching job? Yes. I do. Yeah, I do. Why didn't he this year? That I don't know. It's a great question, but I do think a team will get off to like Dallas or Philadelphia to a one in three start. And Ballochek will be there for him. I do.
Starting point is 00:18:24 OK. Yeah. I just wonder if it's past where all teams look at it and say, boy, once he lost Brady and his, his way is a pretty hard way. Do we want to do that? Yeah. Interesting. I do think he'll coach again. Billy, you think he'll coach again? Someone will get desperate, I think, and see the name and kind of be, I mean, I don't know that he'll coach three years or whatever he's going to have to do to get the all-time coaching record. Right. If he's taking over a team that's desperate, they're going to probably be a bad team. So it'll take more than a year or two to get the 15 wins or whatever he needs.
Starting point is 00:18:57 But we'll see. We'll see. So there's always a desperate person looking for a name. Yes. It seems in the NFL. Yes, there it is. That's true. A quarterback or a coach.
Starting point is 00:19:07 That's true, give me that. Yes, a quarterback. Joe Flacco came back. Bill Belichick's in a coach again, okay? All right, Mike, it was a great season. The Chiefs win their second Super Bowl in a row. They'll try to make it a three-peat next year. Golic, you were great all year for us.
Starting point is 00:19:21 We appreciate it, and I look forward to staying at your house and Notre Dame this weekend. Thank you, sir. God bless football. I will make sure that I give you the address to my house. Yeah, that's it. I already have it. Billy, Mikey, a something very exciting happened yesterday. And you know, I cannot resist the temptation
Starting point is 00:19:44 when this thing happens. A mock draft was released. Just three days after the Super Bowl, courtesy of our friend Field Yates. A mock draft Field Yates. I was so proud of you. I've never seen you do a mock draft before. It's always fantasy stuff. This is new territory for me. They told me they said hey, you know if you can if you can find your way You know on the various media platforms as a result of doing a mock draft will give it a green light So I was thrilled to drop Mach 1.0 Did you have to go and kiss the ring of Kuiper and be like sir might I please can I get permission? I had to send him a couple cans of hairspray
Starting point is 00:20:23 Pumpkin pie mm-hmm, and I had to make sure that the Ravens pick wasay, right? Right. Pumpkin pie. Mm-hmm. And I had to make sure that the Ravens pick was to his liking. Other than that, it was all good. Okay. Were you in Vegas last week? I was in Vegas last week, which was quite an adventure. Yeah, nearly a week in Vegas. Did it kick your ass?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Say it again. Did it kick your ass? Oh, yeah. I came back down. I came back home a beaten down man. My wife was like, what have you done to yourself? I went on very opposite ends of the spectrum trips over the past couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:20:49 After three days in Mobile, Alabama for the senior bowl, I came home for a weekend and then shipped right out to Vegas, two climates that will not be confused for each other. But Vegas is just an unbelievable place in so many ways. I had no idea what time it was for one full week straight because the behavior of people at 4 a.m. is just as similar or just as likely to take place at noon, 8 p.m.,
Starting point is 00:21:13 midnight, you name it. People are just constantly living their life out there in Vegas. Yeah, you're still feeling it though, right? I could hear it in your voice. Yeah, a little bit. I'm powering through guys, but also a long day on Wednesday with the ESPN commitments.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So I need like a shot of, I don't know, I need an espresso and through guys, but also a long day on Wednesday with the ESPN commitment. So I need like I need like a I don't know I need this press a shot right now, which I might get after this wraps up What's your what's your table game of choice field? Do you play cards or blackjack for sure really? Do you have a run? That is not have a run. I made a donation to the great state of Nevada. That's just what they needed It's about time. They finally made some money, right? Is your wife agitated by how much travel you have to do for your job? Well, the interesting part about my gig right now is that most of my travel
Starting point is 00:21:53 is concentrated through a very unique time of the year. Like a lot of my travel takes place from new years until like right about now, I go to the combine in a couple of weeks. I'm home a lot during the football season, which is nice. It's reduced over the years, but she was not thrilled when I was gone for basically two weeks, right? With two kids, two years and younger. That's tough. Dicey.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah, it really is. Yeah, not ideal, not ideal. But I do imagine, Mikey A, you know field. We all know fields here, okay? I imagine he crushed Valentine's Day, especially coming off the senior ball, especially coming off Las Vegas. He did Valentine's Day better than we did.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Is that fair to say, Mikey A? Low bar, first off, better than we did his low bar. But I would imagine the word sonnet is somewhere in his gift. Oh boy. Sonnet. Yeah, yeah. What'd you do lengthy poem? Yeah What'd you do field? No, here's the reality actually I have kind of a get a jail-free card as pertains to Valentine's Day What's I've we have a dog and he turns his birthday is Valentine's Day
Starting point is 00:22:59 So we turned for yesterday. Oh, wow So on Valentine's Day, I I mean I might always be fourth in my own home in terms of power rankings in my wife's eyes, behind our two children and our dog. But I am unquestionably fourth on Valentine's Day because when Cisco, the golden retriever turns four, it's a big day around the eights household. Okay. So you guys have declared Valentine's Day really a birthday for your dog, and that's more important. At least that's what you think, right? I mean, that's what she, it's not even what I think. It's like she's told me that in no uncertain terms.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I tried to teach you this. Whenever they tell you, do the opposite, okay? Crap. All right, I might've made a big mistake yesterday then. Billy, you're agreeing with me, right? Like she wants you to think it's a dog's birthday. She's trying to tell you, hey, it's Valentine's Day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Only 364 days to get it right next year. I'm so ready. How confident are you feel just going off your mock draft here that Caleb Williams is the best player in the NFL draft? I think he's the best player in the NFL draft. I feel confident in that. There are some factors that can influence decisions between now and April, but absent Caleb having like
Starting point is 00:24:03 really bad interview process or telling the bears don't draft me. I'd be surprised if he wasn't the number one pick in the draft. People have referenced how this past season wasn't as great for Caleb Williams as it was in 2022. My usual response is that in 2022 he had like one of the greatest college football seasons ever. USC has become an unlikeable program. I think the fact that like that at Lincoln and USC has become an unlikable program. I think the fact that, uh, like that at Lincoln and Bradley has become an unlikable figure in college football. It has become easy to dunk on Caleb Williams. He was not as good this past year as he was two seasons ago,
Starting point is 00:24:34 but he was still really freaking good. Every game he has, I don't know, half dozen wow plays. You don't have to spend too much time studying Caleb Williams to see those wow moments where as other players, you have to go searching for them like a needle in a haystack Unbelievable accuracy outside of the pocket. He's so innovative You're gonna hear it a thousand times between now in the start of the draft He has some shades of Patrick Mahomes in terms of his you know creativity is built to the scramble keep plays alive
Starting point is 00:25:00 I try to put too many players in the category of, you know, the best player on the planet like Patrick Mahomes. But certainly Caleb Williams is one of the better second reaction players that we've seen at the quarterback prospect spot for the past couple of years. He is definitely, definitely to me the favorite right now to go number one. So I put you in charge of the Chicago Bears who have the number one pick in the draft. What do you do? I'm taking them. I'm training Deftson fields and I'm doing my best to get as many
Starting point is 00:25:28 offers coming my way. You know, Justin is obviously has his moments where he has been excellent. He also has his moments where he's left you wanting more. Right. I mean, that final game of the season up in Green Bay at the very least a chance to play spoiler, just kind of an uninspiring effort from the entire Bears team, but offensively they couldn't get anything going. My general rule of thumb is that three years into a player's career, if we're having the debate about whether the guy is the guy or not, usually leans towards the player not being the guy for the long haul. Bears, I think, are going to get reasonable offers for Justin Fields between the fact that there are rarely good quarterbacks in free agency, but also you've got a handful of teams that are not
Starting point is 00:26:09 in a spot to take a first round quarterback that I think is worth a first round selection. That's going to turn into some legit competition for Justin Fields. We've heard all the teams already, whether it's Atlanta or perhaps Pittsburgh who should be calling Chicago, whether it's two, whether it's three, whether it's three, whether it's five, I think there will be competition. And as we know, competition drops at the price to the point where the bears could end up having not just the first pick of the draft, not just not just the ninth pick in the draft, but potentially some sort of bonus capital to work with to surround Caleb Williams with even better talent. So this is your Mach 1.0. How many versions do you anticipate having between now and then and how much wiggle
Starting point is 00:26:49 room did you give yourself so that your next versions can change so that people keep logging in to see where you're ranking people? Yeah, we'll have four as of right now. And I suppose that is subject to change. But when we put together our curriculum, if you will, for the next two and a half months, it includes three subsequent editions, the next one being, I believe, right after free agency. So like the Wednesday after free agency will dip our toe into mock 2.0. The good news is that in terms of wiggle room, it kind of writes itself. It kind of like, it creates its own wiggle room because in two weeks we go to Indianapolis for the combine
Starting point is 00:27:26 and you go to the combine, you've got tiebreaker opportunities right, you've got two receivers that are closely graded. If one runs a 4-4-5 and one runs a 4-5-7, you probably lean towards the 4-4-5 guy. If one of these offensive linemen goes there and he's, I guess, offensive linemen, it's a little bit different,
Starting point is 00:27:44 but if his arms are shorter or longer, then that might break a tie as well. So I think the wiggle room will kind of create itself organically, and there will be some changes, no doubt, from Mach 1.0 to Mach 2.0. Heck, the night before Mach 1.0 went live, I was trying to make a switch to one of my picks, and I resisted the temptation to do so, but.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Wow, wow. Who was it? Who was it? Just tell us who was it? Who was it? Number 10, I resisted the temptation to do so. But who was it? There was it. Just tell us who was it. Number 10, I wanted to flip flop offensive tackles. I wanted them to instead take Tyler Geithen from Oklahoma. Quarterback, I mean. Quarter. Yeah. Yeah. Are you available?
Starting point is 00:28:16 No, but they should take a quarterback. I mean, there's this 41 years old coming off of the killies injury. Yeah, but he almost played last year. Remember at the end of the season, he did play for the plays. No, no, no. At the end of last season, he was playing and you know, he was never going to play. And he never played ever again. I mean, I don't know. Love your confidence. Yeah. Mach 4.0 Billy, how do you feel about that? I feel like seven, eight mocks is probably a better number than four, right? Yeah. No, but he's taking it seriously. I feel like seven or eight is a bit
Starting point is 00:28:46 much. I do feel like maybe you're quarter. Yeah, maybe like next one, you just drop Caleb down to three and then people are like, Whoa, what does field know? Is there something going on there? Yeah. See if you actually like tank his draft stock and then by three, you just move them right back up to two and then number four right back at one. Yeah, not a bad idea. The other thing that I'd like to do- You want to keep movement in their field so that people stay interested, you know? Well, here's the other thing you got to do.
Starting point is 00:29:10 This is a veteran trick that I've learned after being on this job for a few months here, is like there are players I thought about having in my first round mock draft in Mock 1.0. What you do is you just slide those guys in, Mock 2.0, And then what you've done is you've already created a pool of like 36 players rather than 32. But if they get drafted, like if a guy goes 28th and you had him in the first round in Mach 2.0 but not Mach 1.0,
Starting point is 00:29:41 you get to say, as I've been telling you guys for months, this guy's got a real shot to go in the first round. So you create a pool of like 40, 45 players by the time you finish Mach 4.0. There are a lot of bases, honestly. It's all this. You just have to be right somewhere, right? You just have to be right somewhere field, right? Of course, of course.
Starting point is 00:29:58 There are seats everywhere for us. Well, that's why 50% of the radio shows I go on, I take one side, I take the Niners and the other 50%, I took the Kansas City Chiefs and at least I'm right 50% of the places I I go on, I take one side. I took the Niners and the other 50% I took the Kansas City Chiefs, at least I'm right, 50% of the places I was on, you know? Of course, that right there is the oldest trick in the book. You get two weeks to overanalyze one game.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I'm with you. I had a much more, I had a slightly different, but fairly, you know, I thought Pragmatic approach when I was in Vegas, is any Chiefs fans that came up and asked me who I thought would win, said the chiefs, Niners fans, said the Niners. Everybody was happy, I was all love. You made everyone happy.
Starting point is 00:30:29 My Q score is off the charts. Who is the best quarterback not named Kayla Williams in this draft? I think it's Jaden Daniels from LSU. Really? That's surprising to me. Yeah, I thought he was unbelievable this past season. 40 touchdown passes, over a thousand rushing yards. I've been saying this a lot, but I'll continue to reiterate it.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Did as much as you could do in one season to boost your draft stock, probably for any player since Joe Burrow, obviously also LSU back in 2019. Jaden Daniels is an unbelievable athlete. He's a great thrower, though, as well. Terrific throw in the football down the field, has touch, has accuracy, has big game production. I talk about like sort of clutch moments and no one's Patrick Mahomes, but part of what made the calculus so interesting
Starting point is 00:31:13 for Kyle Shanahan is when you put the ball in Patrick Mahomes' hands in overtime, if all he needs is three, you might as well just like head to the locker room for the post game, I guess, defeat. If he needs seven, he might get eight, right? He'll score on the final way for a two point conversion. Yeah. Jada Daniels was, it was similar this past year. I mean, not to the same heights as Patrick, but the idea that when the stakes were highest, he was his best, which to me is like a really important trait for a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:31:43 There's a belief he instilled in a huddle that I thought really showed up consistently. LSU obviously has a lot of talent, but defensively they're terrible this year. I mean, they're awful. They fired like many of their power players and the defensive staff. And that's not the one that ends. They were really bad.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And they needed Jaden Daniels to be Superman. And he often was against teams that were definitely more talented top to bottom than LSU. Field, who is the best player in the draft who doesn't play quarterback? Marvin Harrison Jr., which is sort of an easy answer. I'm not trying to cop out here, but the Ohio State wide receiver kind of does everything well. You know, he's six foot three. We'll find out exactly how tall and how much he weighs.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But let's call it something between six three and six4 and 220 pounds, but really can run well. He's one of those players that doesn't necessarily look fast when you're watching him on the field, but I guarantee his time speed will be insanely good and nobody ever caught up to him. Really good after the catch. He's got a big catch radius, right? You don't have to throw the ball super accurately to connect with Marvin Harrison Jr., which Ohio State Bands would tell you was often the case this past year. His Kyle McCord is no longer their starting quarterback. He's now at Syracuse, great in the red zone. He has it all. I mean, he is a very, very high floor, but also super high ceiling prospect, which if you're the Cardinals that pick four and he's available for you at your biggest need on offense, I
Starting point is 00:33:03 would think that would be the easiest, like send the card into the commissioner right away, pick in a long time. Where do you think Michael Pentax is gonna go? Like what round? We'll do a chance to go. I think at the end of the first round, it's probably where the conversation
Starting point is 00:33:16 gets a little more interesting for him. As I mentioned, no trades in the Mockdraft 1.0, but we'll start to do those at some point in the near future, I would think. They're going to be teams, they're going to be moving up to the back of the first round to take advantage of that fifth year option and also secure a player that they want. I think that's where Michael Penik, Jr. fits in. Obviously, had an unbelievable this season, this past year, back-to-back years with 4,500 passing yards. The only two guys to do that
Starting point is 00:33:43 in college football, like the past 10 years are him and Patrick Bahomes. Anytime you can be compared to Patrick Bahomes with the stat, not a skill set, but a stat, I'm into it. So he was awesome this past season. There's some questions you gotta answer. His knee and his shoulder will be very carefully examined at the combat in just a couple of weeks. He had four season ending injuries at Indiana,
Starting point is 00:34:04 but none during his time at Washington. He stayed healthy. Intriguing prospect. I think he ends up in the back of the first round. I asked you this on the way out here. We have less than a minute. Bill Belichick, you work for the Patriots. You have a relationship with Bill.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Why is Bill not coaching currently in the NFL? That's a good question. I'm surprised every day I keep thinking, like I'll wake up and Bill or Raybel will have been hired as a head coach. Crazy. Here we are. All the vacancies are filled. Yeah. And two of, you know, the best in the case of Bill, the best to ever do it are not currently head coaches. So, probably a little bit of a perfect storm here, you know, with Bill, you're not going to hire him to, well, you most likely aren't hiring him to only be the head coach, right? He's
Starting point is 00:34:41 going to want the influence or close to what he had during his time in New England. But if I would call those two like the 33rd and 34th head coaches this season, if the coach starts slow next year, I can only imagine the fan base is thinking, well, we got ball check and rabble waiting in the wings. If we want to make them our interim head coach. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Phil, we appreciate it. Mach 1.0 is out right now. Check him out ESPN.com and all the ESPN platforms. For every Mach draft you do, that means an appearance on this show, okay? So three more with you, right? All right, good. I'll do 10 now.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I'll do 10. Okay, good. Mach 10, I can't wait. We'll talk to you next week for Mach 2. See ya. All right, see ya. How's everyone doing? Good, man. Yeah. All right. See you. How's everyone doing?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Good, man. We missed you. I know, man. You know how it is. But the Super Bowl week, it is crazy. Yeah. What'd you get into? Interviews, appearances, meet and greets. I was on Albertson doing a meet and greet.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Oh, that is as random as the place that I've been at. I've lost my voice. I was talking for like seven days straight. So yeah, voice is coming back a little bit. So that's been nice. But yeah, it was a nonstop marathon of speaking, meeting pictures and you know, all of that. My EA was asking me right before you came on,
Starting point is 00:36:06 what percentage of people leave Vegas? Cause I left Vegas, Vegas kicked my ass. And I want to talk to you more about Albertsons, but we'll get to that in a second. Vegas kicked my ass. What percentage of people leave Las Vegas and say, you know what, I kicked Vegas's ass? Probably less than five.
Starting point is 00:36:28 It's a high number. Less than five people or less than five percent? Less than five percent, the set of people. Yeah, I really took it to Vegas, you know? I feel like most of the time it's people that are like, man, I'm ready to go home or man, like that was a drag, which is a good thing, you know? But yeah, I think it's one of those experiences where you're not anticipating walking as
Starting point is 00:36:48 much as you're going to do. You don't anticipate spending as much money as you, you anticipate maybe winning money. You don't win money. That, that kills your vibe. It's, it's a bunch of smoking mirrors, you know, as, as the saying goes, where you're like, okay, here's how it's going to go. I feel like it rarely actually goes to plan. So, guys, I don't know if you caught on, and I saw it on not your social media Austin, but the other person that I'm going to mention, another friend of ours was hanging out with Austin and Gordie Grinkowski. It seemed like you were doing stuff with Gordie this past week.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah, Gordie and I are part of the same, what we call it, the neighborhood. And so we have a lot of the same connections, one being Dave Meltzer that we were talking to, and then we were also at a, well, we had another event together. Oh, I should have forgot they all blend together. Oh, we did like a celebrity poker tournament together as well.
Starting point is 00:37:39 So we've been crossing paths for the last few years now, and he came to like one of my things I did for experience, my app out here in Vegas. So like I said, we're part of the same neighborhood, so we cross paths quite often. I like members of the God bless football community getting together, Billy. It makes me happy.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I don't know about you, but. It's funny how they get together never with us though. Like that's my favorite part is when we all cross paths. Unless you're favorite playing, I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you guys, you guys got to start making some appearances more is what it sounds like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah. Listen, next year, I will join you. I say that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, next year, I will join you at Albertson. Right. Right. Sir. Okay. What were you doing? You're Austin Frickin Eckler and Billy. Listen, that noise you heard from Billy when you announced that you did an
Starting point is 00:38:30 appearance at that. What's it called again? Albertsons. Albertsons Vegas. It got the best of me. That's because that's Billy's wheelhouse. Billy spends a lot of time in places like Albertson. But what are you doing there? Like, why are you there doing an appearance? Well, so here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:38:47 The Super Bowl is kind of like a focal point for a lot of advertising. And meaning probably like 40% of their budget probably goes to spending it on the Super Bowl in some way with appearances, commercials, things like that. And us as athletes get to take part in that and helping them spend that
Starting point is 00:39:05 money and so I was doing a paid appearance out there in Albertsons a little bit off the strip and so I'm in this place where people don't even know this is going on so I got people walking in to go get their groceries go get their syrup and this girl was about to go make some chicken and waffle she said she's like oh my gosh she had no idea I was gonna be there. So it was interesting, but it was, you know, maybe for some good conversations, being able to surprise people. But yeah, Super Bowl, you get into a lot of wacky things. I was at Topgolf, I was at, like I said, the Albertsons.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I was in Jewel Knight Club. You're never gonna find me in the club, not very often anyway. And I was like in the DJ booth, like doing a little hype speech, getting everyone this piece of that that we're putting on excited for for the club at like midnight. I was exhausted. But yeah, there's a whole bunch of stuff. I did some stuff for Dairy Queen. Like I'm all over the place when it comes to football. I love a good blizzard. Do you?
Starting point is 00:40:02 Oh, who I mean, home of the blizzard, you know, the Hannity, they flip it over. And here you go. Here's your blizzard. I mean, who doesn't love a good blizzard? Mikey. Yeah. Yeah. Never had a blizzard in my life. That's where he draws the line. It seems like not making the Super Bowl perhaps was more lucrative to you than making the Super Bowl. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:27 You try to get the same value. There's different values, but you know, you try to take take advantage of it for both of them. You know, I mean, when I don't go to the Super Bowl, which I've never been so the times I'm out actually partaking in all the things around Super Bowl leading up to it. I meet so many connections meeting like, like I said, expanding that neighborhood, running into Gordy, people like that. And so doing the celebrity poker tournament, meet a bunch of other celebrities,
Starting point is 00:40:51 meeting people in the investment space, entrepreneurs, meet a ton of fans, making their day. So there's definitely things to take advantage of. Of the 5% of people who leave Vegas and say, I kicked Vegas's ass, how many of them have the last name, Grinkowski or Kelsey?
Starting point is 00:41:05 I mean, I would probably say they probably get kick Vegas's ass for sure. I mean, all the wrong brothers, they have their beach party that they throw every year there. So they're getting paid to go out there and party and use their name to promote as well. So I mean, that's a win. And then also, you know, Kelsey, shoot just the chiefs, they've never lost in that flipping stadium out there. And then obviously, doing it in Vegas too. I mean, there you go. I mean, even that's a bonus. So yeah, they definitely won, especially this weekend. Anyway, I don't know about other other times, you know, but this time they won before the Super Bowl, we talked to you about it. And we were trying to give you tips as
Starting point is 00:41:46 people who live in a city that hosted the Super Bowl in their hometown before and said, it's kind of annoying when it's in your hometown. Did you like it being where you live or did you find it to be more of an inconvenience because it kind of got in the way of your everyday life? No, it was great from my perspective, but that's because I was actually going to the Super Bowl, but the traffic on the day of got absolutely insane. Have you ever seen like those, I forgot what country it's in, but there's no lights or anything, but everyone's just kind of meshing together. Like people just go, that's what it turned down to out there because it would
Starting point is 00:42:16 be a red light, like a left turn arrow where the turn link can go and everyone has to stop. No one's stopping. It's red, people are going through, the other one's already green, so they're trying to inch their way through, and it's just madness. And so it was only like that for two days. Luckily I wasn't around the strip down on those two days, only just a little part of it. But I'm just watching these videos of people
Starting point is 00:42:36 seeing all this stuff going to go down. So I really avoided the worst part of it, but for the most part it was pretty smooth, I thought. It was like, it's spread out enough. And Vegas is set up to be able to hold a lot of people like with the parking garages, multiple ways into the strip and everything. So that was great.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And then they have everyone that parks away from the stadium and you get to walk across this bridge, across the highway. So it really separates everything, kind of spreads it out, but not too far, but definitely like within a couple of mile radius. So I think Vegas is I think they're gonna have it back here I mean, you know going forward probably a few times just because do you guys hear about like the betting numbers on the game? Yeah, crazy. It was like was like 50 billion dollars that was like bet on this on the game and I don't know what that compares to like previous years, but I'm guessing
Starting point is 00:43:25 there was some type of heightening of that because of Super Bowl being in Las Vegas, you know, home of gambling and all of that. So overall, well done NFL, well done Vegas in my part. So you think Vegas did a good job because people were concerned, Joe Bach amongst them, concerned about Vegas hosting a Super Bowl, but you felt like your city that you're living in right now did a good job, right? 100%. I think it was a smash. I can't wait to see the numbers that come out. I'm sure there's going to be records broken of just numbers coming in, bets. For me now, that stuff matters, because it's like, oh, how's the city doing? That's what pays for my supplementing my income taxes
Starting point is 00:44:05 that I don't have to pay here. You know, it's all these betters that are coming and donating to the casinos. And it's called gambling. So I love to keep up with it. It's pretty cool. We'll get to Billy in a second because he gambled for the first time in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:44:18 And so I wanted him to. Ah, he doesn't know what he's doing. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Before we go there, we gotta know. Everyone's gonna know Did you guys win Vegas? Listen, I was up by 12 points headed into headed into Thursday night on Vegas I was kicking Vegas's ass, but Vegas went on a 24 to nothing run
Starting point is 00:44:36 And I lost man Please just got me man. It's bad. Okay. Okay, Billy. What about you? You were out there, too, right? I felt like I beat Vegas. I feel like about you? You were out there too, right? I felt like I beat Vegas. I feel like it was a good job. I mean, I didn't do much. It was just work every day. So I didn't really enjoy a ton,
Starting point is 00:44:52 but I feel like the work was productive. I feel like we went in with a plan, we executed and we got out alive. I mean, I was tired, but we got out alive. So. Billy, are you saying you hate your job or like? He didn't get to enjoy Vegas the way one would want to enjoy Yes, no
Starting point is 00:45:19 Right, okay. I was like dang Billy like we got this guy. We got to this guy else I'm saying we didn't I didn't go out to parties at night I wanted to do I wanted to do more networking than I did, if I'm gonna be completely honest with you. And I wasn't able to do a ton of that just because we were going back and forth between radio row, we did a live show at the Circa, two different days. So like there's a lot of traveling in between.
Starting point is 00:45:37 There's lots of interviews and stuff like that. So like the plan was executed. It was just a matter of like once the plan was executed, it kind of took a lot out of me. So there wasn't a lot of like extracurricular activities. If that makes sense. That's what I kept telling my team, because there'd be like things that would be paid and be like, Oh, these optional unpaid things. And you know, the week before on paper, it's like, Oh, that's great. Let's do them. You know, and then you go out there and you do the things that you have to do that you're
Starting point is 00:46:01 obligated. And then you're like, wait a minute, my energy is like in the dirt. Or it took longer. It's like now we have to go over there. Yeah. I was at Albertsons all day and now I'm like, I could go to this optional hangout, but I just talked to people for an hour and a half straight about their barber shop that they live down, that they work out down the road. And you know, and I'm like, ah, okay, maybe let's just go home and rest.
Starting point is 00:46:23 So you need to learn how to work's just go home and rest. So. I did think. You need to learn how to work through a line, my friend, okay, like when people are talking. Just a quick picture. What's your name, where you from? Thanks for coming out. Boom, next. I can't do it, man.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I like that first engagement. Like I want them to feel like special. Like I want them to feel like I, like, because I do like I'm like very thankful that they came to see me. And so like I'll ask a ask a couple questions I'll talk about what you got going on where you're from you know so I can't just be like picture next you know so I got Austin Austin you need a sidekick you need you need the guy to be the ass for you you need the guy that's going all right Austin's had enough of you move on you need that any time you Any time you want to hire me, I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:47:05 All right, I got you. Very nice of you, Mike. I did say this, Austin. I think that Vegas is a great host city. I thought that like of the couple that I've done, I did Phoenix, Miami, Atlanta, Vegas. I think Vegas was a great city to host the Super Bowl. And I think that the NFL should go back there
Starting point is 00:47:24 as often as possible because the city loved it. And since it was the first one, part of it was also about the city more so than the game. I felt like at some points it was like, oh, this is Vegas, but it's such a great host city for that spectacle. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And there's other things like that. Like March Madness is a big time for Vegas.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And so it's like one of those things that's like a staple. Like I know all these people that are coming out for March Madness to be around the bedding, to be around watching the games and things like that. Super Bowl is another one that fits right into one of those categories of this is just a great, it's a whole week, cause it's like, there's a whole campus, they got the NFL experience, they got media, they got players everywhere.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Like, so there's just a whole experience for the entire week that can go on and have all these cool lights and places to actually host all this stuff. So I agree. And the stadium's right there too, which is something that you don't get in a lot of cities where you have to drive way off to get to the actual stadium.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Right there in the middle of the town. Yeah, so true. So true. It just keeps, this city keeps growing on me more and more every single year where it's like this is in my backyard. And I can be down at the win. I could be at the R.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I could be all that within 18 minutes and then be back at home in normalized living. So it's been great. Sounds like he's leaning towards the Vegas. Yeah, it's going to say. I mean, we're talking about like doing that in November, October, off season. Like what are we thinking? No promises. Yeah, we'll find out here in about a month what's going on in my life.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah. What did you make of the game? I thought it was great. No promises, yeah, we'll find out here in about a month what's going on in my life, yeah. What'd you make of the game? I thought it was great. I thought it was great in the entirety of it. It started out obviously a little bit slower as far as the offensive play, but defenses were both staying strong. And I thought it was really well, I think the risk was managed both on both sides
Starting point is 00:48:59 where it was like, you don't have to push it. Like I have people that were with like, maybe be going four on fourth down because they're just getting impatient, right? They're getting impatient, but they held true. They let their defense go out there and continue to get stops for them. And they, each team was like inching up the scoreboard,
Starting point is 00:49:13 which I think made it more intense as it got into overtime because you're like, okay, now like now there's definitely gonna be a winner. As it wasn't really clear, you know, going into the first four, first four, it was like, okay, like who's going to just barely inch by. And so I'm glad it ended with a one drive for each team. They get an opportunity to go out there and score.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And I saw the fact that it went to overtime, I think made it a great game. If it wouldn't have gone over to overtime, that kind of would have been boring. Like, ah, like what the heck. So I thought it was awesome. You know, I didn't really care who won that one It looks like we have a a new era of you know, the the championship team like we did for the Patriots
Starting point is 00:49:52 Which hey there they've earned that so If I'm in the division looking forward to keep beating them because hey if you want to be the best got to beat the best But I thought it was great overall. Did you know the overtime rules in the Super Bowl? Yeah, they changed them. You knew that. Yeah, I knew that. Well, because Kyle Shanahan was coaching in the game and he didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Yeah. Yeah, that's not good. That's not good. That's not good at all. Well, they changed it after the the bills and the and the chiefs game. But yeah, I knew the rules. I don't know if it's because I was at NFL PA meetings or they did. They talked about it at the beginning and the chiefs game. But yeah, I knew the rules. I don't know if it's because I was at NFLPA meetings or they did, they talked about it at the beginning
Starting point is 00:50:28 of the year or what, but yeah. No, everyone was there. You were just paying attention because you're Austin Heckler. Oh yeah, yeah, that too. I mean, Tony Romo didn't know. No one knew. I didn't know, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Yeah, well, they wanted to make sure it was fair. So one team can't just go down there and score a touchdown. Um, so yeah, I'm well, here's the thing. You both get a possession. Yeah. You both, you know, want to go down and try to score. But look, if, if you go down, kick a field goal, you got forced. They were like a fourth, fourth down.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah. I kick the field goal. Like I still think that's the right move. Even if they, you know, don't get the ball. If they don't get the ball first, like make your defense step up. Your defense has been playing well all game. So either way, your boy, Brandon Staley, would have went for that, though. There's no question.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I mean, he's not he's not kicking field goals when there's a touchdown available to him. I mean, oh, yeah. I don't say that critically, like with my homes getting the ball back. I'm not certain I wouldn't do the same thing. For sure. For sure. Just to make sure that, hey, you're going to force them to have to score a touchdown, but here's the thing Now if you don't get it now that all they're doing is playing for a field goal and so I think that's tough
Starting point is 00:51:34 I think it's so tough if you say oh, hey, we're gonna instead of making them go actually score unless they had to score or at least Hi, if you only make a plate. Hey my home is you only have to get to the 40 yard line. I don't like those. I don't like those odds. Knowing how hard it is to win in this league. When you look at a guy who's been in the league for six years, he's made it to the AFC Championship game every year.
Starting point is 00:51:57 He's made it to four Super Bowls, one, three, three Super Bowl MVP's. Are you sitting there as like one of his peers? Are you like, what the fuck, how good can this guy be? Like, how are you sitting there as like one of his peers? Are you like, what the f**k? How good can this guy be? Like, how are you experiencing all this? Yeah, you know, I think it's a combination of what they got over there. It's obviously, you know, the great players, but then also in football,
Starting point is 00:52:14 coaching has a big influence on the game as well. So I think they have a good chemistry going over there right now. And, you know, when you have that chemistry, you try to hold on to as long as you can. You know, you saw, you know, with before we saw chemistry, you try to hold onto as long as you can, you know, you saw, you know, with before we saw it with the Patriots and Brady, right? They try to keep that chemistry, try to keep that same demeanor. And it's the it's the Bella check in the Brady era. So I think we're seeing a new era that probably going to stay couple together for a really long time. And Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:52:41 And so I think it's I think it's awesome for the game. Just in general, playing those guys. Obviously, you want to go out there and just beat them every time. You're gonna have to play these guys twice a year. But you have to put respect to what respect does do regardless if you like them or not. And they've earned, yeah, three Super Bowls now.
Starting point is 00:52:57 So man, it's amazing for the game to see it shift and see like a new powerhouse in the league that's taking over. Because now that's the standard. It used to be that powerhouse in the league that's taking over because now that's the standard it used to be that okay like the standards now over here now it kind of shifts right as we continue to evolve and new players coming in now uh billy mickey i'm gonna pin them down i hate to do this to austin but i'm gonna pin them down you play you always do every week every week you play it he doesn't hate it either aust. Yeah, I even a little bit. I don't you're right But go you played against both guys Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:53:30 Who's better? Wow, who is better? They're both really good for different reasons And I think that's that's where it's hard to really compare It's not necessarily apples to apples because because they're not like the same. I would say a Brady and a Manning would be a little bit more like pocket passer, right? Really can distribute out, really can call the plays, get everyone lined up.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And then I think you have with Mahomes, who has the ability to create more than both of those guys did on his own with him. You just scramble. I think that's one of the biggest things. It's not underrated, but it's like one of the biggest strengths this guy has is that the throws that he can make, sidearm, and all over the place.
Starting point is 00:54:11 And then also these scrambles for seven, eight yards. It's just so annoying, but he gets it done. So who's better? Shoot, I think, you know, it's, I want to say that Mahomes is trending in that direction, but I still got a few more years to go, but I would say Brady right now, just because I've seen his full career played out
Starting point is 00:54:30 and I've seen him go for seven, even though Mahomes is hot right now. I don't think it matters when you get hot. I think it just matters how long you were able to continue to play at that high level, how many championships you continue to go get. And so Mahomes is on the right path to getting there. All right, Billy is he's right.
Starting point is 00:54:47 He sent me a message. I presented that the wrong way. Game for your life. You need to win the game. It's a game for your life, and you could only choose one of two quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady to lead in their prime. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes prime, Tom Brady prime. I'm not certain what Tom Brady's prime was.
Starting point is 00:55:06 It may have been when he was 40 years old I don't know Brady wins that game by the way He does he wins it might be um, I still think I'm gonna take Brady Okay, and maybe I'm biased because I played Patrick twice I've been playing him for the last you know six years and just been tired of all those games. So I'm thinking. He likes to talk, right, Patrick? I mean, if, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:33 He's not talking, but he just likes to talk, correct? I mean, everyone's got their personality. You know, I've never had a problem with him as a person, but. Okay. All right. Did you see you have a problem with as a person? Who do I have a problem with him as a person, but okay Did you do you have a problem as a person? Who do I have a problem with as a person? Oh, yeah, it's more it's not that I have a problem with as people that individual it's more of a of a
Starting point is 00:55:55 like an energy or vibration have you heard that I don't really mind with and There's people that Well, the people that I do vibe with are people that are really trying to like actually do good for themselves and actually respect the people around themselves. People that I don't really mess with is people that are really full of themselves and act as if they're above others and really think that, oh, I'm too good for you. I don't need to be around you because I'm this person or I've done this. Not really a fan of that.
Starting point is 00:56:24 So I'm a people person. I keep a very open mind. I respect people because people are people. We're all a person. And so even those people that I don't vibrate with, I still respect, but tend not to stay around those types of people because I want positive, incorporating, uplifting energy, even though if we're not doing
Starting point is 00:56:43 the same things, they're not going down the same path, I still am encouraging you to hopefully be a better version of yourself and make impact that's fulfilling in your life. So if you're not trying to do that or you're taking away from that from other people, I don't vibrate for those people. So those are the people I have individual beefs with.
Starting point is 00:56:58 So I won't say names, because for obvious reasons. I was trying to find the guy that punched you in the head by accident in that fight, but I couldn't find it in time. That guy, yeah. Yeah. Even that, even that, like. Why'd you go read that speech? But my team, not my football team,
Starting point is 00:57:16 my internal team will go back and forth, will butt heads. You know, it's not physically with the helmet, you know, to the face or a pit fist to the face, but it's healthy. It's healthy in a way to have competition. Not necessarily that, but just to have like opposition. We're about to go play a football game. We're not friends. We're about to go smash into each other. So, you know, we don't have to be knuckleheads and try to knock each other out
Starting point is 00:57:38 right now, right? Before the game starts, before we even get paid, let's wait till we're getting paid to do it. By the way, we've all, me, Mike, EA, Billy, we're all thinking this, and I should have addressed it earlier. Are we in the neighborhood? The three of us, are we part of that neighborhood? Well, clearly you're in the neighborhood
Starting point is 00:57:56 if we're already crossing paths with other people that are with the neighborhood with. That's true. Yes. You know, so here's the thing. I don't even know who's all in the neighborhood. Like, you might have a house, you know, on the other side of the neighbors that I know, but I'm like, well, you're still in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I just haven't been introduced to you yet, but it's inevitable. And eventually, you know, if I'm proactive, I'll eventually get to, you know, a crossing with you. So, you know, you're connected to Gordy. I'm connected to Gordy. I'm connected to you. You're in my neighborhood. I speak to you guys all the time.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Um, so yeah, you guys are definitely in the neighborhood more than the Harbaugh communication dried up at all or where we at with that? Yeah. So, well, we saw he put out like, hey, we'd love to have Austin back on the on the team, you know, which is great. But, you know, until we're talking, you know, numbers and contracts, that doesn't really mean much, you know, just something you have to say. Is that what you're saying? You could say you want all these players back on the team, but I do respect him, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:50 making that shout out. I'm sure he got asked specifically about that. So, you know, look, he already let me know that he respects me, you know, and I likewise, you know, exchange that. So, but it's something out of his control. I think it's something that he will have an influence on, but it kind of just depends on what the entire organization is trying to do. Do they have an appetite for bringing Austin back? Do they not? You know, so until we're talking contracts and paper, none of that means anything, but I do appreciate the respect. Billy was wondering who our neighbors are.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Yeah, now just thinking about our neighbors in the neighborhood You know what I mean? She's who are the neighbors? Yeah We we can get the list going it goes on and on and my neighbors might be different than your neighbors Yeah, we have no your neighbors. Yeah are better than ours by far The end of the block. I like what you put exactly right. We're in a small house and no one wants to be around. Yeah, you guys got some overdone grass and stuff. Exactly right.

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