The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF- Monday Hangover: Been Around the Block

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

Stugotz, Billy and Mikey A try and make sense of what happened in the last few minutes of the Cowboys vs Commanders game. Stugotz is sick of special teams. Billy wants the Bears players to make it cle...ar that they are not rallying around Matt Eberflus. In fact, he wants one of the vets to publicly state that and Mikey A has the perfect guy to do it. Lucy joins the show to talk about the craziness that went on this weekend in college football and her experience going to "the game" before headed out this week to "the game". We play a little "if the season ended today" and Billy has some words for Mike Golic. The BBBBBB's look to get back on track after the first 1-2 week since Week 1. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:01 week and watching all the former Jets excel around the NFL because that's what I do it yesterday. I don't know that I enjoyed watching them excel around the NFL but I didn't enjoy not having that pressure of having to watch a garbage team. Yes. Yes. It was
Starting point is 00:03:18 the best. I would say it was the best Sunday of bad games in NFL history like it's I looked at that one o'clock slate. I'm like I'm not interested in any of bad games in the NFL yesterday was a crazy NFL game. You're right. It didn't look like there was going to be great games and then and then it was a great day. Right? Yeah. Football always wins. Where do you want to start? I mean the Dolphins look great. Two of the last two games has maybe been the
Starting point is 00:03:52 best, you know, best quarterback in the NFL. You had that Washington game yesterday. You had the Chiefs with Hague win over Carolina. Carolina with a great, not a good loss, perhaps the greatest loss in the history of the NFL. What a great loss a good loss, perhaps the greatest loss in the history of the NFL. What a great loss it was the greatest loss in the history of the NFL. You know you have a
Starting point is 00:04:13 quarterback or at least you're starting to think that you might have a quarterback and Bryce Young. You don't want to beat Kansas City. You want to know that you have a quarterback and be competitive with Kansas City and that's
Starting point is 00:04:23 what Carolina did. Uh okay. so I have a question for you. Yes. And this is something that we may not be comfortable with, right, but at the beginning of the season, friend of the show, friend of yours, dare I say friend of ours, Spags was in the studio. He was. We were saying Spags is the MVP of the league.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yes. Spags and the defense were keeping the Chiefs in it. Yeah. At the beginning part of the season. They were. Last couple weeks, offense has been looking better. Yes. Defense hasn't been looking as good.
Starting point is 00:04:54 No. And CJ, or sorry, Bryce Young seems to have figured out, seems to have figured out Spags yesterday. Yes. Didn't type in on Spags is what you're saying. I'm just. You're going to offend figured out Spags yesterday. Yes. Did it dive in on Spags is what you're saying. I'm just. You're gonna offend our friend Spags? I'm not.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I'm not saying maybe we took it easy this week against the Panthers. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, we thought, and you haven't really done a ton of it this year. Thought something was a little bit off in Kansas City. We thought we knew what it was. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And now the script has flipped a little bit. Yes. And now it still seems like something is off in Kansas City. It does. But we're not quite sure exactly what is off and what will be off one week to the next. But also, why are we starting with this game with the way the commanders
Starting point is 00:05:40 and the Cowboys game went yesterday? I have no idea. I mean, you brought up the Chiefs. I was just saying that it was a great loss for Carolina. That's all. But Washington yesterday, what a game. And what a bad, bad win for Dallas. I would say what a finish.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Was it a good game, though? Yeah, not a great game. Was it a good game, though? Good finish. It was a great five minutes. So 41 of the 60 points were scored in the fourth quarter. Yeah. It was a good, like, what the hell is going on here?
Starting point is 00:06:04 Did everyone forget how to play football? Like even in saying it was good, every single play that happened essentially was like, someone forget how to play football in this play? Like how did this just happen right now? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Jayden Daniels, that final play, that was insane. You have to go for two in that spot, don't you?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Well, the final play I think he threw an interception. Well no, I'm talking about the play that I know you're talking about. Potentially would tie up the game. They missed the extra point, but you have, yeah, McLaurin. I don't know how that happens. The breakdown in the Dallas defense there, but if you're, I'm serious, if you are Dan Quinn and you're the commanders and you have Dallas and they're like in one of those like I'm shocked moments, you
Starting point is 00:06:44 just quickly line up for two and you go for I think we're in love with going for two this year It's like going for two is having a huge year. I think it's a little bit He did go for two a little bit earlier and he got to however going well, however, well, I was gonna say however like Commanders are a much better team than the Cowboys. If you're in Dallas you go for two to win Yeah, the commanders think that they, okay, we tie the game, they're gonna get the ball back with no tie and like, this is fine,
Starting point is 00:07:08 we'll just handle it in overtime. There's a lot of like dumb luck plays that happen in that game. There's like block puns, block field goals, miss field goals, miss extra points. There was a returned touchdown on a kickoff where the ball was fumbled at the beginning and then the spin move was made
Starting point is 00:07:22 with no one within five yards of the guy. And then he still runs it back. The accidental circle button. Exactly right. Like that was a crazy game. And then obviously, even after you get it, you then go for the onside kick and give up a touchdown on an onside kick.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Like that game was a lot of fun, but also a lot of crazy. A lot of crazy. But listen, if it takes all that, like the final five minutes to make it a great game, then I'll call it a great game. Cause to me that was a all that like the final five minutes to make it a great game, then I'll call it a great game because yeah, that was a great game. Those final
Starting point is 00:07:49 five minutes were fantastic by the way, tees and peas to uh Austin Echler and his concussion. Hopefully he is. Yes. It's well soon on that. That didn't look good. No, I mean. They never do. Yeah. No. Uh huh. Uh so we're uh how'd
Starting point is 00:08:02 you feel about the Dolphins Billy because we've been telling Dan that the Dolphins are are in the mix. The Dolphins, I think probably had the most impressive, I think from start to finish. They were as impressive as any team in the NFL yesterday. Defense played well and the Packers look great. The rare eight and three team that's in third place. Yeah. I mean that division unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Buccaneers also looked good yesterday. They did. But there's the Giants. And they're back in the wild card mix. I have no idea what's what, who's who, if anyone's good. I have no idea, especially this year, both in college and the NFL. I have no idea if there's a single great team out there anywhere. Well, the Lions. I was going to say also. The Lions might want to sprinkle in a loss. I mean, they are getting hot at the wrong time. We're burning through all the takes right now. I was going to say. He's
Starting point is 00:08:44 right though. He's right. I got plenty more, Billy. We don't we don't know who's good and who's not in the NFL. Also college seems to be the same situation. We're going to talk to Lucy coming up in a couple minutes. Yes. Yes. Hold your horses on that one. We're going to get to college in a second. I can't talk about it now, though. No, we can talk about it now. Hold my horses. No, I'm just saying hold your horses. If you if you're worried about college, we're going to get to it here in a moment. Oh, you're telling the audience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes audience my bad horses. Sorry hold them Texans I don't know if they're good, but that's a story for another Day straddle. Listen, you might be a little early on that
Starting point is 00:09:14 Carolina might win that draft after all I was gonna say you read you redraft it I wonder if you don't go in the same order Just wondering who were the quarterbacks from last year's draft? Was there a third, like, sneaky quarterback? Anthony Richardson, no? Yeah. Oh, Richardson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:30 If you were to redraft it, are you saying it now? No, I said, I wonder if you redraft if you go in the same order. Worth a conversation. I never thought, the fact that we're having this conversation is a big win for Bryce Young. Well, okay, but here's the thing. He's back, baby.
Starting point is 00:09:47 He is back. He's back in the conversation. Here's the thing is that like, you saw the CJ Stroud high, right? So like, you hope that he can get back to that. Because last year, he had just a crazy touchdown interception. He was great. He wasn't throwing any interceptions. This year, he's throwing more interceptions. Yes. Also, can we, can we, can we do it real quick?
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Starting point is 00:10:23 the world's number one vodka. The biggest winner of the weekend, and you're not gonna, it's related to this game, and you're gonna understand why as soon as I get to it. Biggest winner this weekend, Dan Orlovski. Oh, wow. Yes. Wow. I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Huge winner this weekend. He's off the hook. Off the hook. He won't be, we're still gonna see it, but CJ Stroud coming in, everyone was raving about him. Dan Orlovsky, great commentator, very nice guy, weird eater by all accounts. Friend of the show, he's been on a number of times.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Very lovely man. But I would say in terms of his professional career, people weren't gonna say he's one of the all-time greats. No, no one would say that he's even good. I mean, I say that respectfully. Well, you're taking it a step too far. Dan Orlovsky is a friend. Is he the all-time okay?
Starting point is 00:11:13 He's okay, but I think by his own admission, he would tell you, yeah, it was just okay. I'm just saying, if you want to show someone running out of the end zone, are you gonna show Dan Orlovsky or are you gonna show CJ Stroud? No, it's Stroud's forever, yes. Well, I Are you gonna show Dan Orlovsky or are you gonna show CJ Stroud? No, it's Stroud forever. Yeah. Well, I think it's still, I think it still might be Orlovsky because at least Stroud there was like pressure he's being pushed and kind of touched out of bounds,
Starting point is 00:11:32 whatever, where Orlovsky is just running around like a, you know, chicken with his head cut off, as they say. Plus, plus it's the original. So it is, but here's the point. You could have a million butt fumbles. It's always going to be owned by Mark Sanchez. I mean, that's it. I think you're right. I don't think you can have a million butt fumbles. I said, if you could, Mark Sanchez would still own that moment. The point is, it was a great moment for Dan Orlovsky
Starting point is 00:11:55 and the Orlovsky family because CJ Stroud, who everyone says is gonna be a great, had a great rookie season, is gonna be a great player. Same thing happened to him yesterday. And by the way, at a worst time because it was at a potential, you know, time to drive and win the game. Sure. So anyways, big winner for me and winners and losers presented by Smear and Off the
Starting point is 00:12:15 World's Number One Vodka, Dan Orlovsky. Alright, I have a winner here. Okay. The Chicago Bears. While losing, they won. Yeah. Okay. It was a competitive game. I think they see over the last two games that they have a quarterback in Caleb Williams. They could feel pretty good about maybe they didn't blow that pick. Wait, hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:12:34 What? Where is he now in your rankings? Because you have been putting him out of your top five of quarterbacks draft, and now you're saying the last two weeks they see they have a quarterback. Yeah, he's back in, May is out, so yeah. Yeah Yeah, Drake may Drake may was bad. Maybe not. Maybe not. Yeah, right. So he's back into the top five. Caleb Williams. That's a good way. Like you don't want to win that game. If you're Chicago, you're not going to do anything this year anyway. You want to build around Caleb Williams. You get a better draft pick, but you saw your team be competitive. You saw your team not give up on its coach. And Caleb Williams had his best year,
Starting point is 00:13:07 his best game throughout this rookie campaign. That was his best game of the year by four. Okay, question for you guys. Yes. At this point in the season, in the Bears, do you kind of maybe want the team to give up on the coach a little bit? Like, do you kind of maybe want the team to give up on the
Starting point is 00:13:25 coach a little bit? Like, do you kind of maybe not want them to rally around? I think I think he's out. He's out no matter what I know, but you kind of it doesn't matter. You kind of maybe he's gone. Maybe start the rumblings. Oh, he's lost the
Starting point is 00:13:38 team a little bit here to make sure we kind of like, oh, thanks, man. Here you go. We packed your bag for you. This is a it's a great question. Billy's asking, do you want the coach to lose the team? It's never been asked before in the history of doing this. Billy is asking, do you want a coach to lose? Do you want the team to
Starting point is 00:13:51 lose confidence in its coach? Not necessarily. Not not necessarily but do you want to dispel any narrative of rallying around the coach like almost so much to the point and this sounds terrible and by the, then now the Bears get back into that pattern of drafting a quarterback and firing the coach one year after they draft the quarterback, which we've seen has worked out great for them.
Starting point is 00:14:13 So do you maybe, if you're like a Bears player, I don't even know who it would be, but like I feel like this is the position of like a veteran leader on the Bears where in the post game, you have that loss. That's the guy, Keenan Allen. Yeah. Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Guys gather around. I've seen some things. Guys gather around. No, no, not gather around. No, no, here's the situation. No, he has to- Guys, I sent you an email. He has to, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Check your texts. This is how it goes. So you have a gritty win yesterday. You head into the post-game press conference or the scrum around the locker room, and everyone says, wow, you know, like you're saying, great loss, gritty win. You guys showed some fight yesterday.
Starting point is 00:14:57 That was a, you know, wow, you really see potential. Right, a QL, quality loss, yeah. I think that's where Kenan Allen, team leader, steps in and says to the media, now, I want to get out ahead of this. Before we start with this, we are not rallying around our coach. We did not rally around our coach. That's not what happened today. Bad job today. Moving forward. No, we did great, but let the record show, we did not, nor will we, be rallying around the coach.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Okay, so next week, if you're Keaton Allen, you're telling the team to dial it back next week. No, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying you don't necessarily dial it back. Well, if you keep being competitive in games against good teams, people are just gonna say they're rallying around the coach because we're lazy.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I'm playing for my brothers. That's why you immediately come out and get ahead of that narrative right away. I see. You dispel that rumor. You say, let it be known, media, and say it outright. And obviously it will lead to some awkward practices. Keenan has to say it, right. Keenan, whoever, whoever.
Starting point is 00:16:00 No, Keenan, Keenan's the guy. Okay, fine, Keenan can say it. Or if you have like a DJ, like a DJ Moore comes in and he steps into a leadership role. You ask for a guy, Mikey A and I are telling you, Keenan's your guy. It could be, but I'm saying if someone else has to, if someone else has to, because listen.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But no one else can is what we're telling you. But look, we saw a little bit from Alik Nevers yesterday with the Giants. Yes. We saw him come out and he said, not the quarterback. But he hasn't seen stuff. Had the exact same results with DJ. But he hasn't seen it.
Starting point is 00:16:32 There's problems here. He hasn't seen what Kenan has seen. I mean. There's problems. He hasn't been around the block. But he stepped up in a leadership role and he went out there in front of the media and he made the comments yesterday.
Starting point is 00:16:40 So I think we need someone on the Bears to ensure that we head down the correct path here and we bring in a new coach. You come right out and you say, let it be known, there's no rallying behind this coach, nor will there be. We are doing this on our own, of our own volition. Do not write the headlines. I cannot be more clear here,
Starting point is 00:17:01 we're not rallying around this coach. It's either Kenan Allen or the all-time Traveler of the NFL Mercedes Lewis. Oh, wow. He's there. Yeah, really 40 years old Wow a lot of coaches a lot of games. That's the problem is that people say what are you doing here? Well, Mikey I want to be clear on what you're seeing a lot But Kenan Allen has taken several trips around the block, right? Are you saying DJ? Several trips around them and he's been there right and back right and back DJ Moore is still halfway around the block. Several trips around the block, right? Are you saying DJ? Several trips around the block. He's been there and
Starting point is 00:17:27 back, right? And back. DJ Moore is still halfway around the block. He hasn't made a full circle. DJ Moore is still walking around the block. He's still finding his first time around the block. He'll get there. Yes. He'll get there.
Starting point is 00:17:36 He's good enough to get there. But DJ Moore. He hasn't been there. DJ Moore has about the big contract. Big contract carries weight. Yeah but this is I'm with Mikey on this. It's all about what you've seen. And Keenan Allen has seen stuff. Jordan Addison, pretty good, huh? Jordan Addison, yes. He's pretty. And by the way, what
Starting point is 00:17:50 a transition that was. Same game. Same game. Same game. I know, but I was talking about guys going around the block. Jordan Addison. Yes, great game. Also, one of the best onside kick recoveries I've ever seen. Yeah, there's too much emphasis on special teams. I mean. By the way, I was thinking before, I thought announcing the onside kick, even though you know the onside kick is coming,
Starting point is 00:18:11 announcing the onside kick kind of takes some of the fun away from the onside kick, right? No, no, still very fun. Onside kicks are still very fun. How are we gonna announce better? We lose the surprise one. We lose the surprise Super Bowl. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:18:23 You lose that one. The one time it happened. But now if you know it's coming and you're not prepared. Oh my god. I love it on side kick just to see now how they're placing the ball like just lay it on its side. Who knows what that ball is going to do. The kicker has to get wacky. Kick it into the ground. Lay it on the side. Who knows what we're going to do here. Alright. Billy told me to hold my horses on
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Starting point is 00:20:21 She's going from the game to the game. They have no business calling that the game Harvard Yale. Billy, what were you saying about flags before we started here though? No, I've just I found out where Lucy's going this weekend and I I view Lucy as a college football expert. So, I figure she knows like the ins and the outs of everything. So, like I'll throw questions at her and she usually has an answer because I view her as a historian of sorts. Right. Someone
Starting point is 00:20:44 who knows everything, yes. Lucy, is that fair to call you a college football historian? No, I'm 26 years old. Okay, well, I mean, I feel like you could, what do you think is the youngest historian of anything in the world? Well, it would be Lucy,
Starting point is 00:20:58 26 years old in college football, exactly. Yes, historian, yes. No, when do you get your PhD? How many years does that take? Okay, so if you get a bachelor's degree, within four years you're 22, right? But if you're a nerd with some AP credits, you could probably get it done in two years, maybe a bachelor's degree. So it may be a young 20 years old, and then you could get a master's in what does that
Starting point is 00:21:23 take? Why did Lucy ask you, and why are we listening to you like you're some sort of expert in this field? I spent a lot of time in college. Why are you acting like the historians of historians? I'm just asking a question. Anyways, the point is we found out where she was going. So like, I've always been fascinated.
Starting point is 00:21:38 The horseshoe just has this giant flagpole behind one of the end zones. Yes. And I was thinking about it this weekend cause I was watching and I was like, I wonder if they, because you don't see the top of the flagpole, you just see the base and it's so out of place and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:52 did they take down the flag during the game? That wouldn't make any sense, right? So like, no, the flag is flying during the game, but then I thought that it was in the formerly open end of the horseshoe, but no, it's in the closed end. So I was asking if she knew, she didn't even know the flagpole was there. So I'm not, you know, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:22:05 I'm gonna say maybe ask someone while you're over there, but maybe we could possibly get to the bottom of it, but you do whatever you're gonna do anyways. Happy Thanksgiving week, by the way. So you were surprised the college football historian at the age of 26, and by the way, it takes up to eight years to get a PhD. Up to?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah, up to eight years, usually four to six, somewhere at that rate. Now I'm the expert. Yeah, but also it depends on the science that you're getting it in, right? What you're practicing. Yes, college football history. College football history probably
Starting point is 00:22:35 is not the same as like, you know. I understand. Lucy, how was Harvard and Yale? How was that game? It was fun. It was definitely weird. It's just a different sort of environment, but it was a really good time.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I learned a lot. Did you know whoever wins storms the field every year? So all the Yale students stormed the field after winning that game. Wow. Yeah, it was a good time. I will say Yale students are generally nicer than Harvard students.
Starting point is 00:23:07 But everyone we talked to was super, super friendly. Some of the nicest students we've ever talked to, but we have never gotten more, no, we don't want to be on camera and speak to you than we did at Harvard. They have no interest in that. Wait, hold on a second. I thought Army- They're solving important issues up there. I thought Army-Navy last year was the worst. Yeah, this one's up there. I thought Army Navy last year was the worst.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, this one's up there. I would put them around the same. We were just like, hey, you want to talk to us? And it was immediate like, no. Right. Why is it called the game? I mean, do you know, historian? From what I learned while I was there,
Starting point is 00:23:41 this is the only game that at least Harvard students go to. It's the only game that people care about and so it like sells out, it's a very big deal. It's like 140 straight years of playing it. Also like the Ivy League can't compete in the FCS, so like this is in a sense sort of like their championship game because it's the only game that really matters.
Starting point is 00:24:03 So I will say this, I feel like I insulted Lucy by calling her a historian. Like she assumed this was something for like elderly people, which is not what I intended to do. It's usually reserved for older people. It's meant as a compliment, as someone with a lot of wealth of knowledge. It's for people who have been around the block.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah, so I would also say, because you then ask something in a very- It's for Keenan Allen, I mean. You ask in a very condescending fashion. You said historian, and I will say this, historians are always learning. Historians always have more information to learn. They're never done learning.
Starting point is 00:24:35 So I feel like, how about this? You know how you can go to school and you can be pre-med or whatever? Maybe Lucy is pre-historian at the moment. You know what I mean? Yes, she's getting there. She's working her way? Lucy is pre-historian at the moment. You know what I mean? Yes, she's getting there. She's working her way? Yeah, pre-historian.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Okay. She's got more field experience than most people. Has it ever dawned on you that Lucy doesn't want to be an historian? Why wouldn't you want to be a historian? Because she's 26. I'd love to be a historian on anything. That's why she's pre-history right now.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Right. Okay, anyways, Lucy, you mentioned storming the field. Yeah. I love field storming the field. Yeah. I love field storming. You do. Big fan. You have been on the record saying you love field storming. Yeah, but it's necessary.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Well, no, Lucy, not you. Oh, okay, sorry. So I feel like this was a bad week for the future of field stormings. We had multiple field storming incidents that went awry. And I feel like this may be setting a bad precedent moving forward. Like there are sanctions that can be levied
Starting point is 00:25:30 for field storming and it never deters anyone. But I wonder now after two bad ones this weekend if we're gonna up the situation now. I wouldn't say that's gonna happen. The whole thing that happened with Arizona State, I don't think... The chaotic nature of that one was incredibly intense, but I do believe there have been things like that
Starting point is 00:25:51 that have happened before. I think I was at a game, it was Clemson, and Clemson storms the field after every single game. It's like their tradition, where the same sort of thing happened. Obviously, it's a very different situation, because Clemson's prepared for them to storm the field every single game.
Starting point is 00:26:07 But that is not the first time that fans have stormed the field and there has been extra time on the clock. I think it was one of the more dramatic times with Kenny Dillingham and his wife there just like screaming at the refs and all this stuff happening. I don't think there's anything they can do
Starting point is 00:26:22 that will ever officially eliminate storm feeling or like storming the field Because they're college kids and they're gonna do what they want and they don't really care So like yes, that was probably not good. But honestly more funny than anything I think that storm fielding will live on I agree. Well, yeah, you're trying to abolish it It seems no I'm not I was feeling I was feeling not great about it to get a job on. I agree. Well, you're trying to abolish it. It seems like. No, I'm not. I was feeling I was feeling not great
Starting point is 00:26:50 about it but the story has spoken and now it is. Alright. Okay fine. Move on. Alabama's getting what? $300,000? I have some Lucy or Goosey for you. I know you're going to Ohio State Michigan. We'll talk about that after we get through some of
Starting point is 00:27:04 these but Lucy or Goosey, this is the big question from the weekend. Interested in what you're going to say here. Did Indiana do enough for the committee to put them in the playoff? I am going to say Goosey but with an asterisk because I don't think Indiana did enough. We all watched that game. Wish it went a different way. First quarter was fun. Everything else was really, really bad. There just is a talent gap between Ohio state and everybody else. And you saw that with Indiana. I think it's more important what happened after the Indiana game.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Ole Miss losing at Florida state, Alabama losing at Oklahoma, BYU losing at Arizona state. Like there were just losses left and right. Colorado losing to Kansas. Like everything is different now. BYU losing at Arizona State. There were just losses left and right. Colorado losing to Kansas. Everything is different now. No teams had better weekend than Georgia and Tennessee because they feel pretty confident that they're going to make the playoff at this point.
Starting point is 00:27:57 But Alabama picking up a third loss is crazy. Ole Miss picking up a third loss is crazy. The SEC did a lot of crazy stuff this weekend. Texas A&M losing. All of that helps Indiana significantly. Now, did Indiana have a pretty bad game against Ohio State? Absolutely. Uh, but they, the rest of their body of work, I know they don't have a really
Starting point is 00:28:17 big signature win is impressive. So I, I don't know what's going to happen. I, I think Indiana probably deserves to be in the playoff at this point. Yep. You're an 11-win team and you can make similar arguments for Notre Dame, for Texas. Notre Dame has a great win against A&M, but that one doesn't look as good right now.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Texas has only win is against Michigan. That's the same thing for Indiana. Indiana is just a team that people are already predestined to be like, you shouldn't be here. So I think they're going to be in. I don't think they did enough to help that, but I think everybody else did. Are you expecting the committee to make some tweaks to how we're doing this next year? Absolutely. I expect there to be tweaks across the board, but not even just the college football
Starting point is 00:29:01 playoff committee. I don't know how anybody gets into conference championship. I have no clue. And I keep trying to learn and it doesn't make any sense. They're just picking, they're just choosing. Like you can choose to put Purdue in the conference championship if you want to. Like I don't understand how anything's happening. They're going to have to make some changes
Starting point is 00:29:17 because as much as I have loved this crazy year and as much as I love the idea of an Indiana making the playoff, watching all these upsets yesterday, watching all this happen to all I could think of, man, this would be much better if there were six teams, eight teams, even four teams. Because what Indiana probably, hopefully will make the playoff and Ohio State definitely will as well, we saw that there's an incredible talent gap between those two. And there's an incredible talent gap between the top four teams in the country and everybody else.
Starting point is 00:29:49 So I think it's just a little... they're not going to change it. They're probably going to expand it more. It's going to be Mike Leach's 64-team playoff, but they're going to have to change the way that they decide teams, the metrics they use, how they explain it to us. This is definitely a trial run. Lucy, do you think the talent gap will shrink over time now that more teams are getting in? So like more players might be like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:11 I will go to Indiana because they do have a shot. I wouldn't say, I do think the talent gap will shrink in some ways, but I don't actually think it's cause of that. I think it's all NIL based, where you can go make money at Ohio State, but now Indiana probably has some donors who really want to put some money behind that football team,
Starting point is 00:30:28 and that's what's going to get players to go to a different school. I think the talent gap will always be there. Ohio State's roster is like $20 million. Like it's insane. I think it's way more than that actually. But I think it'll all, I think there's always going to be some level of talent gap. There's, Georgia's always going to have more talent. Ohio State's always gonna be some level of talent gap. Georgia's always gonna have more talent.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Ohio State's always gonna have more talent. Texas is always gonna have more talent. But NIL will be the real factor that's going to really sort of, not even the playing field, but make it a little more competitive at the, not elite level, but the great level. Lucy, I think what you'll have is more teams, teams that don't usually have a quarterback. More teams will have a good quarterback. And if you have a good quarterback, then you have a chance, meaning, you know, Alabama at times
Starting point is 00:31:12 or Georgia, they'll have two, three, Ohio State's a perfect example. We'll have two or three quarterbacks and the guy who's starting will stay and the guy who's second or third on the depth yard will go somewhere else and see if he can prove himself there, right? No, I agree. And I would say you've even sort of seen that before this whole new playoff era. I mean, Dressen Field started at Georgia and then went to Ohio State. Quinn, you were sort of at Ohio State, now is it Texas? I think that like the days of backup quarterbacks in college football are long over and I don't think they're coming back. But I do think you're not going to see these teams that have such
Starting point is 00:31:46 stacked quarterback rooms anymore because you can go to Penn State and make the playoff. Hell, you could potentially go to Indiana and make the playoff. So, there's a lot of room for players to sort of move around but I think more of it is is money based than playoff based. Uh Billy, you made a sound there but all I'm saying is quarterbacks just want to platform. They don't care. If they win a national championship, great. They just
Starting point is 00:32:07 want to platform to show the NFL scouts, hey, I could play. That's it. They just want an opportunity. I'm just Penn State. I'm sorry. Lucy or Goosey, we're six days out here. Okay, from the game, the actual game, Ohio State, Michigan. Lucy or Goosey, six days out. Are you already nervous for Ryan Day? I'm going to go Goosey, which is a shocking answer for me. Michigan's offense is a level of anemic that only I would be familiar with, that I know. I understand how bad that truly is. So I'm
Starting point is 00:32:42 not going into this game with any hope for Michigan. Okay. Uh Lucy or Goosey, the Big 12 is an absolute mess. Oh my god. Lucy, Lucy, Lucy. It's on fire. Yes. There are four teams. There's a four-way tie for first right now and I believe Iowa State has not played any of the other teams that are tied up top. I believe that Colorado, I don't know if Colorado's at the top anymore. I don't know if they've played anybody else.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It is a mess. It is, no one knows, Arizona State might make the championship, Iowa State might make the championship. I think BYU is still in the running, potentially. The only one who's for sure not going is Oklahoma State. They are for sure not making it. It is so confusing that conference took everything from the Pac-12. They took all the teams and they took all the weirdness.
Starting point is 00:33:36 You're right. I don't know what to do about the college football playoff, but it is confusing. She just said Arizona State and I just realized Arizona State's in the big 12. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Just listen. I want everyone to just listen to this for a second. What I'm about to say because it's I'm not lying. I'm telling you the truth. Okay. Arizona State could have a first round by in the college football playoff. That's great. That's like a that is a real legit possibility right now. Ah, the sun devils. I mean, it's crazy. I haven't been this good since Jake Plummer. I mean it's
Starting point is 00:34:06 unbelievable. Insane. Uh Lucy or Goosey, Notre Dame is the most complete team in the country. Uh I'm gonna go Goosey. I think it's tough to watch what Ohio State did this weekend and say that there's a team better than them. I think Oregon is really really good. Um Notre Dame is a very good football team. I think Oregon is really, really good. Notre Dame is a very good football team that's like weird enough flying under the radar. That's cause they really haven't had, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:31 anything on their schedule since Texas A&M. And I know you can say that army and Navy are better than they'd normally be, but they're not close to Notre Dame's level. They're a very good football team right now. Riley Leonard is playing really, really well, but I don't believe that they're the most complete team in the country.
Starting point is 00:34:47 All right, two more, we'll get you out of here. Lucy or Goosey, Syracuse will upset Miami. I'm gonna go Goosey, but not with a ton of confidence. The first half of that Wake Forest game, if you even keep it close against Wake Forest, counts as a loss in my opinion. Obviously, Miami pulled away, did the sort of Miami thing. They're a very hard team to predict, but I think that Kim Ward is good enough to beat anybody, and I
Starting point is 00:35:14 believe with that Miami will play SMU in the ACC championship, which SMU has locked up their spot in the ACC championship. What a weird sentence to say. So weird. Lucy or Gooseie, Texas A&M who lost over the weekend will be Texas. I'm going to go Goosie on this one. I think them losing to Auburn really does hurt Texas's case. Mike Elko was probably a little too cutesy with it this week making jokes about how he was already overlooking Auburn to Texas, which he probably shouldn't have done. But losses to teams that are that bad, which Auburn is a bad football team. Big wake-up call.
Starting point is 00:35:52 So I do think it helps A&M's case. It's also at home. It's in College Station helps A&M's case. But this is Texas' real sort of moment here. I think they secure a spot in the SEC Championship with a win. Once again, I don't know. I really don't. But SEC championship with a win. Once again, I don't know. I really don't. But Texas needs that signature win. They don't really
Starting point is 00:36:09 have it right now and this is kind of the chance to get it. Also, this is a very interesting rivalry. There's a lot of hate between these two teams and they have not played in a long time. So I'm going with Texas, but I don't say that with a ton of confidence. All right, you're headed to Columbus, Ohio this weekend. First time there, Ohio State, right? First time going to a game with the shoe. I have been to Columbus before. Nice town.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yeah. Just on vacation? Yeah. Why'd you go there? Iowa was playing in the NCAA tournament, and it was a host round. Ah, okay. Yes. It is a nice town.
Starting point is 00:36:41 You're going to find out about the flag for Billy, right? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That's top of my list of all the work I have to do. It's overrated, Columbus. I go to the hotel. Yeah. Yes. It is a nice town. You're going to find out about the flag for Billy, right? Oh yeah. Absolutely. That's top of my list of all the work I have to do. It's overrated Columbus. I gotta be honest. Oh, it is. I mean, I
Starting point is 00:36:55 had fun. Yeah. Listen, why are you taking shots at Columbus? Well, because someone took shots at me literal shots. Someone shot at Columbus. They shot up my hotel. Yes, I stayed at a nice hotel and there were gunshots and I woke up the next morning. All the streets were closed off. I don't want to alarm you. I don't believe someone shot. Where did you stay? They shot up your hotel. I stayed right on that main street where all the cool bars are. It's a very nice area. I love the area. I know Ohio State is in Columbus, but it's kind of separate. You stay in hotels where people overdose. They don't get murdered. I'm telling you what happened when I was there. I mean, look it up.
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Starting point is 00:38:52 Yes. We've had a lot of fun in this episode so far. I've had a lot of fun anyway. I don't know about you guys. I have. Yes. Yeah. Now, something that we haven't done.
Starting point is 00:39:00 There are some staples that we haven't done this season yet. Mm-hmm. We still haven't done our BCS, and I feel like it's almost time to get our first BCS rankings out there. Okay. You know what I mean? Yes, of course. And, uh, honestly, the way the season's gone, we would've been primed for lots of movement on the BCS this year, but... It would've been a great year for the BCS.
Starting point is 00:39:25 People are clamoring for the BCS. It was a simpler time. It was. This is what I'm going to tell you, and I don't mean to point the finger, but- Okay, but you're going to point the finger. Mike Golick, this is on you. Wow. Because you're not receptive of the BCS, and you do not respect us.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Yes. I was going to say you don't respect our, you know, commission, but it really is us. You don't respect us. He. I was gonna say you don't respect our commission, but it really is us. You don't respect us. He doesn't. And as a result, the listeners are suffering. So the BCS is coming back, Jack, whether you like it or not. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Wow. You know what? You know what? I'm gonna go a step further on that, Golik. You laughed. You laughed at my what if this week. And I told you, Mike, what happens if Florida beats Ole Miss,
Starting point is 00:40:03 Oklahoma beats Bama, and A&M loses to Auburn? He goes, that's not gonna happen. It happens. You know what happens? All of it. All of it happens. All of it happens. All of it. All of it. What if? Do you feel, what Billy feels that Mike Golick, while nice to us, while a friend to us, almost like a dad figure to us, do you feel like he doesn't respect us at all? No, I don't think he respects us.
Starting point is 00:40:28 He doesn't. It makes me wonder, honestly, and this is gonna sound weird, but it makes me wonder if something happens, there's been a massive cover-up, he has court-ordered community service, and somehow he talked his parole officer into letting this count in his community service. Because if you notice, he's never really in a rush
Starting point is 00:40:46 to get out, he'll talk to us as long as we want. I feel like it's just a situation, and I know Sue guys is not paying him, so I feel like it's a situation where he's just milking the clock and he has a number that he's trying to get to, and somehow this has just been covered up on the down low, no one knows what's going on, but he's kind of just joining us
Starting point is 00:41:07 because he's been almost, I don't know, sentenced to joining us. Mandated. But yeah, there's a reason he's joining us because he likes kind of talking to us maybe, but not enough to even indulge us in our BCS. He doesn't respect a single thing. He joins us because he's a nice man.
Starting point is 00:41:23 He's probably the nicest man I've ever met. Or he has community service he's doing. Or because he's doing community service, Billy's right up. Is he asking you to sign a time sheet? No. Because that's a big giveaway. No. He did ask me one time, he said like,
Starting point is 00:41:36 hey, can you send my hours over, punch in, punch out, and I was like, punch in, punch out, sure, don't worry about it. Yeah. Now that's starting to, oh, I don't know. He's always there for us though. He's just, you know, he doesn't care what it is we have to say. What I do a couple of times a year and I haven't done it this year because he doesn't respect anything we have to say. Correct. I'll bring on a Tony Bisselli. Yeah. I'll
Starting point is 00:41:56 bring on a Dwight Freeney. Yeah. I'll bring on and then it's a totally different Golic. He's engaged because he's. He lights up. Well, he's talking to someone who's had their hand in the dirt. We haven't. I mean, that's it. Well, that's what it boils down to with Mike. Have you had your hand in the dirt? Right. I mean, you know, in high school. Yeah, same. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Eighth grade. Yeah. What's the difference? Been a minute for me. Yeah. Here's the thing. Like, Cooper Manning got injured, right? And because an injury ended his career, I'm sure I'm sure that Mike respects Cooper Manning much more than me. Now, an injury ended his career, I'm sure that Mike respects Cooper Manning much more than me.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Now my injury was I just wasn't growing. And they said, you know what? At five foot three, 95 pounds, football's not for you, Billy. And they weren't wrong. I would have gotten seriously hurt if I continued playing. My body gave up by not starting. Yeah, I had an injury too. It was a lack of talent was my injury.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Right. And Cooper's case, I think that injury prevented him from being the greatest manning of all time. Yeah, but I was pre-injured. No, but everyone says he was the most, the entire family says Coop was the most athletic of all. I don't know. Thank you. Thank you. This one, Mike, yeah, he gets it. Two Hall of Fame brothers. And Shannon Sharpe does the same thing with his brother. I think it's more like, you know, just say it. No, but it's different when your brother's playing wins Super Bowls, your other brother never gets
Starting point is 00:43:15 the opportunity to play. That's why they're kind of... That's why. At least Sterling played though. That's a good point. Sterling played! Sterling, we have the evidence, we can see it. That's the life.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yeah. So anyways, I feel like Mike doesn't respect me because I made the difficult decision to give up on the game before I got seriously injured. Right. Yeah. Yes. So I made probably the prudent decision. You know, what's funny about all of this
Starting point is 00:43:38 is even Mike, when he was on with us last week, he actually brought up the BCS. Yeah. He did. He wants it. He does. Anyways, the point is, and we're not up the BCS. Yeah. He did. He wants it. He does. Anyways, the point is, and we're not doing the BCS now, but the point is we've been missing out on some of our more famous segments
Starting point is 00:43:52 and another one that we've been missing out on. And I feel like today's a good day to do it if the season ended today. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Wow. We haven't done that. College or NFL? I think NFL. Yes. Actually, Mike. Oh, wow. Wow. You haven't done that. College or NFL? I think NFL.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Well, I actually, Mike's right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. We can actually do if the season ended today after the rankings if you guys would like to do that. Uh but Mikey, are you thinking because you were the one clamoring for this. Are you
Starting point is 00:44:24 thinking about an NFL if the season ended today? Is that what we're doing here? Um I was just lookingbering for this. Are you thinking about an NFL if the season ended today? Is that what we're doing here? Um I was just looking at some of the standings and I thought, you know, if the season ended today and then it hit me like we haven't done it. Right. We
Starting point is 00:44:34 don't if the season ended today. Well, did you have anything that's stuck out on you or you want me to present some scenarios or what do you want to do? Uh I I mean, if the season ended today, the Packers at eight and three are
Starting point is 00:44:45 the sixth seed. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Wow. I don't think that's how you play if the season ended today. Maybe we're rusty. We gotta, you know, we gotta dust off. Yeah, that's right. Let's get back into it. Okay, we'll teach us. Right. Well,
Starting point is 00:44:55 you have like you have to do it by playoff match, you know, matchups, right? Okay, show us. How do you do it? Of course. Well, who's the seventh seed in the AFC right now? Broncos. The Broncos are the seventh seed. Mm hmm. Okay. They would play the Bills in Buffalo. If the season ended today, would you
Starting point is 00:45:08 give the Broncos a chance against the Bills in Buffalo? Not a single one. Really? Mike Ea is saying yes. Really? Absolutely. Right. How about this? If the season ended today, would Saquon Barkley be the NFL MVP? Huh? Oh, Nix was good
Starting point is 00:45:24 again, by the way. I know he was. Obviously. I'm not sure the NFL MVP. How about this? If the season ended today, would Saquon Barkley be the NFL MVP? Huh? Oh, Nick's was good again, by the way. I know he was. Offensive player of the year. Yeah, I don't think. Who do you who do you who would you if the season ended today, who would be
Starting point is 00:45:37 the MVP? So, I think it has to be Josh Allen but a lot of people this morning are saying Saquon Barkley and it's not Saquon Barkley. Well, I mean, it's never Saquon. He had another career game. Listen to me. It's never a running back, okay? He's been so good this year.
Starting point is 00:45:47 He's been great. He hasn't been good. He has been great. But the most important position in that sport is quarterback and therefore quarterback should always win the MVP. I don't get what anyone says. Let's be very-
Starting point is 00:46:00 But what about Derrick Henry? Also been great. Yeah, it doesn't matter though. Very similar numbers. We've talked about this. This is why the offensive player of the year exists. So they can give it to a quarterback every year. Guys, I wanna get out on the front end of this
Starting point is 00:46:12 and say friend of the show, Brian Dable. Yes. Friend of the show, Joe Shane. Yeah. They're both done, right? It's not even releasing Daniel Jones. So the owner said they're safe, both of them? Yeah, that's what you say.
Starting point is 00:46:29 No, I understand that. You don't have any reason to believe him. I'm just telling you what he said. They're not. They're not safe. I'm telling you, the owner says they're safe, Billy goes saying they're not safe. That doesn't mean they're going to get fired. They're not safe. Okay. And I'm not even sure if it's the Daniel Jones of it.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Right. Saquon Barkley may get them fired. The fact that you let that guy go, he went to Philadelphia, it's a bad move. But if the Giants, to our point about MVP, if the Giants had Saquon Barkley, they wouldn't be any better off. They wouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:46:56 At all? Maybe a game? I mean. Neither would Saquon, to be honest. Right. I mean, maybe a game? This is an Eagles team. I think the only thing that would be worse
Starting point is 00:47:04 would be the Eagles. I think that's the only difference the only thing that would be worse about Eagles I think that's the only difference the Eagles wouldn't be as good They don't think that the Giants would be any better. Maybe a game better This is an eagle team that made it to the Super Bowl with miles Sanders Who's in Carolina right now doing nothing can't get on the field? This is an Eagles team who made it to the playoffs the last three years without Saquon Barkley Then I think that you guys have just made the argument as to why Saquon Barkley is not the MVP. Checkmate.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Well, unlike all of you, respect our opinions. No, no. Not at all, but okay. If you wanted to. By the way, you know how we say the Ravens always have one of those losses, especially in the playoffs? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And the Ravens for some reason can't beat the Steelers. Right. Well, if the season ended today, Ravens at Steelers. Wow. That was a good loss for the Steelers against the Browns. A bad win for the Browns and a great loss for the
Starting point is 00:47:58 Steelers. It allows Tomlin to reset. It does. It just allows for a reset and he can work that for the next 10 days like crazy because it's a humbling loss and no one loves a humbling loss more so than Mike Tomlin. Really? Yes. He loves
Starting point is 00:48:13 looking for a humbling loss. He loves opportunities to humble his team. Yes. To bring him back down to earth, Billy. Yeah. To remind them they're not as good as they thought they were that we still have work to do that we have more blades of
Starting point is 00:48:26 grass to defend. Yes, Mike Tomlin loves that. Yes. Okay. He does. Season ended today. Mike Tomlin, coach of the year. Probably Dan Campbell. Really? Yeah. They need a loss. They do. I'm telling you right now. In the worst way. Yeah. They
Starting point is 00:48:42 need a loss. And if someone's going to get injured for three weeks, it should be this weekend. You're just advising all NFL players, injure yourself this weekend if you're gonna have a three week injury. NFL players are contending teams. Yes, if you're gonna get hurt, do it for three weeks, do it this weekend. Okay. Alright. Let me write that down. The BBB is coming up next. As the world's population grows, so does the need for resources like potash to support sustainable food production. This is why BHP is building one of the world's most sustainable potash mines in Canada. Essential resources responsibly produced.
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Starting point is 00:50:00 two again, but the Ravens need this game. They need it worse than the Chargers do. So anyway, we'll again, but the Ravens need this game. They need it worse than the Chargers do. So anyway, we'll get to the BBBs here in just a second. You guys were were asking me about the Jets during the break here. What is going on with the New
Starting point is 00:50:15 York Jets? There was a report over the weekend that I didn't see. Did you not see it? Aren't you a Jets fan? How do you not see these these I ports come out? I decided to assume you read my article now. No, no. Listen, I'm sorry. My come out. I decided. I just assume you read my articles. No, no, no. Listen,
Starting point is 00:50:27 I'm sorry. My apologies but I decided that I would like to have a stress free weekend and not think about the Jets, not read about the Jets, not watch the Jets, just watch all their former players around the NFL Excel in different places. I'm
Starting point is 00:50:41 happy for Sam Darnold. Congratulations. Gino Smith, you too. What happened? Do you know Joe Douglas was fired? Well, yes, that I know. Okay, I'm just I'm trying to figure. I'm trying to backtrack and figure out where we are. That's where I left off. Joe Douglas is fired. Douglas is fired.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Do you know that they have no intention of bringing Aaron Rogers back next year? I do know that. Yes, I heard that. Do you know that Aaron Rogers is not that he's not retiring? He wants to come back next year. Okay, great. We'll see who's interested in taking Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Probably San Francisco would be my guess. Why would San Francisco take him? I just think that's a place he's, it's where he's from. It's a place he's always wanted to go and him and Kyle Shanahan have a good relationship. Why would you take him over Brock Purdy? I don't know. I'm just guessing, Billy. I mean, they had Brandon Allen play yesterday
Starting point is 00:51:20 and he was, he was terrible. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So you kind of saw Brock Purdy. Maybe, maybe Brock Purdy works here. Aaron. I mean, I played Alan play yesterday and he was he was terrible. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, you kind of saw Brock Purdy. Maybe maybe pretty works here. So, Mikey, are you living with that fear that Aaron goes elsewhere next year and that
Starting point is 00:51:33 team's going to get a great Aaron Rodgers and we missed out on two years of Aaron Rodgers or or you think he's done? Oh, no, I've accepted that as okay as actually going to happen like that's going to happen. He's going to go to a place
Starting point is 00:51:44 like Vegas that needs a quarterback and all of a sudden you're going to look up and be like, oh, man, Vegas is a juggernaut. How the hell did they get this? Oh, because Aaron Rodgers is going to play like the old Aaron Rodgers just to rub it in our face. And yeah, that's what we're looking at. He's got one MVP season left in him, and it's not for us. He does not have an MVP season.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Daniel Jones, more likely to have an MVP season than Aaron Rodgers. Well, yes, 100%. more likely than Aaron Rodgers. 100% This is going to be far in Minnesota. He was just ridiculous. Mikey, they don't under, it doesn't matter how we try to explain how this thing works to them to not get it. They don't understand. When we get Aaron Rodgers, he tears his Achilles in four snaps. We don't understand. And when we give up, yeah, you do not understand. The team that had Dante Culpepper rushing into an end zone, pointing at his knee, doesn't understand.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I spent my day watching two former Jets quarterbacks excel in other places. Anyway, we're fighting. I love you. Thanksgiving week. What are we doing? Aaron Rodgers is. I really wonder.
Starting point is 00:52:39 If anybody's going to break this Jets curse for you guys, it's Aaron Rodgers. No! I really, really wonder what team would take him on. By the way, in fantasy, I was talking about how great I was gonna do this week. I finished, I think, like four spots from the bottom. And our fans are doing it.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Way to go, I thought it was your week. If you're not the world's number one vodka, please drink responsibly. Here's the thing, it's not on me. And I don't wanna be the guy that points fingers at his players, it's not on me. My players are not performing. That's simply it.
Starting point is 00:53:04 There's nothing else that I can say. They're not performing to the level that I need them to perform to, and I feel like we're gonna have a nice, long, awkward Thanksgiving meal because next week's my week. Mark my words. You got an awkward Thanksgiving meal with a team because you get a new team every week, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:20 They're all coming. Every single one of them that has let me down this season is coming. I'm presented by Smear it Off, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. That's our fantasy update. week you know they're all coming every single one of them that has let me down this season is coming presented by spirit of the world's number one vodka please drink responsibly this our fantasy update uh here we go our bb bb bb guys i have breaking news that i can't deliver to you yet but it's very exciting and you're gonna know more about this next week here's my first pick of the week because we're ready for the rare breaking news that you can't deliver go ahead it's exciting news you're gonna find out more It's not even broken yet.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Next week, Billy's Big Board Bets brought to you by, still waiting on a sponsor. So, first pick, Cameron Dicker, over one and a half field goals tonight. All right, Dicker the Kicker. I love it. Yes. Dicker the Kicker, seems like a lock, one and a half field goals.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Okay, that is the first Big Board Bet. What's your record here, Big Board Bets for the year? So, I had an off week last week. I went one and two for the first big board bet. What's your record here? Big board bets for the year. So I had an off week last week. I went one and two for the first time since week one. But I'm 30 and 16 on the season. Still doing pretty good. You were playing hurt, though. You were playing hurt.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I really was not doing well last week. I think everybody saw it. And it affected me. But that's fine. No excuses. We're just going to keep moving on. All right. I would say this show in general has done very good in terms
Starting point is 00:54:24 of at least trying to help you make some money here. Billy's been good. I've been good with still you got. You have a second pick here for BBB, huh? All right. This is my fun one today. OK? A fun Z.
Starting point is 00:54:34 This is my fun one. All right. We can all watch together and we'll all celebrate when it happens. All right. Derek Henry's long rush of the night will be over 16 and 1.5 yards. OK.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yes. He has done it every week except two weeks. One of them was week one against the Chiefs, the other one was in game against the Bengals. Every other time he's had a rush where his long was over 16 and a half yards. Okay, that's the fun one. That's the fun one,
Starting point is 00:54:57 because we can watch it together, and as soon as it happens, you go, ah! All right. I did it! There it is! There it is. Do we call each other? Happen on any play. Do we text each other? Why don't we text each other?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Ah! What do we do? We can text each other, but this is more for the fans to enjoy with us. And now, finally... How do you spell that? This week, the past couple weeks, we've been betting the under. Yeah. It has been so depressing.
Starting point is 00:55:16 No one likes them. And we're in a festive mood. Thanksgiving week. Holidays right around the corner. Yes. We're going to go over 50 and a half points today. I like it. Over. We're hoping for points. We're hoping for an offensive outburst this
Starting point is 00:55:30 week. You would think you would get that with Lamar Jackson and Justin Herbert, but we're hoping. Who the hell knows in this league? Who knows? Three nothing and a half. I hope not. I can't do another three nothing and a half. God bless football. Enough is a we thing, an experience that is best enjoyed together.
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