The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF- Monday Hangover: Circle of Trust and Agendas

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

Stugotz, Billy, and Mikey A take a look at an important Week 17 as the NFL season winds down. There were several players who had their own agendas when it came to their performances on the field. The CFP Elite Eight is ready to get underway and Stugotz is really only looking to forward to two of the games. Billy gives his BBBBBBB's and we play "if the season ended today" which is so close to being true. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Reserve your Uber ride up to 90 days in advance. Uber Reserve. See Uber app for details. God bless football. Billy Gill. God bless football, Mikey A. God bless football, Stu Gots. Thank you, Mikey A. College football,, Stu Gatz. Thank you, Mikey A. College football, the Elite Eight is coming up this week. The NFL,

the final week of the regular season. We have a great game of if the season ended today coming up for you in just a minute. Billy, what's going on with that Dolphins hat? This Dolphins hat? Oh, you like this hat? So I got this. It does. It's a helmet hat. It has a stripe,. You see this?

It has a stripe, it has the logos on the side. My cousin's wife gave it to me in a little secret Santa exchange over the break. I like it. I gotta be honest. Somebody gets you. I mean, it should be your Cardinals hat or a Bears hat or a Chiefs hat. But I mean, I guess. Cardinals and the Bears have been eliminated from the playoffs, so we can move on from them. It sits down to the Chiefs and the Dolphins at this point for front runner Billy. You know what I mean, I guess Cardinals and the Bears have been eliminated from the playoffs so we can move on from them and sits down to the Chiefs and the Dolphins at this point for front runner Billy, you know what I mean?

I could tell you that the Dolphins are out of the playoffs as well. Oh, I mean, okay. I mean, if you're the Chiefs and you control whether or not Joe Burrow makes the playoffs, then you do the right thing and you let Denver into the playoffs. I mean, oh, I mean, but like but like Joe Burrows not gonna make the playoffs the Dolphins are playing the Jets the Jets it's a must lose for them by the way telling me that's not a game the Jets win because they shouldn't and the Dolphins lose because he doesn't know the Jets I mean I mean this this feels like every bit a Jets win for no reason.

Yes. Potentially. I mean, if Aaron Rogers wants to go out on top, if he wants to retire, whatever, but like Aaron Rogers understood the assignment yesterday. Aaron Rogers said, you know what? We need to lose this game and I'm gonna do my damnedest to make sure we lose this game.

And then they took him out because it was close for like three quarters It was like a nine to zero game for like three quarters Then all of a sudden the Bills decided you know what now let's let's not let's put up 40 points And then they take out Aaron Rodgers Then Tyrod Taylor comes in and he does not understand that he's supposed to lose the game. He had his own agenda Okay, I have a game. His agenda was Tyrod Taylor, yes. His agenda was I'm gonna start next year for this team.

I have a game. I have a game called My Agenda. And these are the players that played with My Agenda yesterday in mind. Tyrod Taylor, probably like number three on the list. Okay, if you give me a moment, I'll figure out a number two. Number one on my agenda yesterday, Drew Lock. Drew Lock did not understand what he was supposed

to be doing at all yesterday. Drew Lock seemed to think, you know what? This is a great opportunity for me to go out and ingratiate myself with Giants hands. No friend, you're probably the most hated person in New York right now, because your shenanigans yesterday of your five touchdowns has had the Giants hands. No friend, you're probably the most hated person in New York right now. Because your shenanigans yesterday of your five touchdowns has had the Giants go back from potentially number one to number four, which may be a good thing.

Which may be a good thing. Because if you're watching the bowl games and you saw Chador Sanders come out in Giants cleats saying, oh you know what, I'm gonna be the number one pick, I'm gonna end up New York. And then you watch Colorado play, you're like, ooh I don't know if I want this to be the number one pick. I'm gonna end up New York. Mm-hmm And then you watch Colorado play I don't know if I want this to be our franchise quarterback, you know what I mean? But guess what Giants now you may not have a choice and now you may get Shador anyways

I don't know if should do or knew something I knew that Giants were gonna blow this but Guess who's number one in the picks right now? It's the Patriots because of course the Patriots are gonna end up with with the number one pick overall. Now they don't need a quarterback so I mean they're gonna hold they're gonna they're gonna hold an auction for the highest bidder. By the way number two for my agenda Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans. Baker Mayfield threw five touchdowns and I think most of them were inside the five even though Bucky Irving ran for 120 yards like nope we're gonna throw this to Mike Evans because he might not get his thousand yards, but he's going to get more touchdowns. Yeah, but they needed to win that game though.

I mean, yeah, but I mean it was first and goal inside the three and they're like, no, but I'm saying Billy's talking about guys who don't get that. This is a must lose game at Drew Lock is out there for himself. And I listen Billy, I guarantee you the Jets are gonna overpay for Drew Locke next year I mean I I was I was sitting back making a case Making a case as someone who wanted the Dolphins to win at four o'clock and was like man Okay, let's look circle of trust here friends. Let's just let's have a circle of trust moment. Just us We're gonna have sensitive topics come up in this conversation okay circle of

trust just Mikey Stu gots myself and our loyal listening fans okay and I don't want any betrayals out there and I don't want any of this to get out because again this is the circle of trust if your team is in playoff contention, you should not be resting. Circle of trust. Circle of trust. Anthony Richardson, play. Circle of trust. Tua, play.

Circle of trust. Jalen Waddle, play. You're born without those guys, though. I mean, but but it honestly feels like no one wants to get the final playoff spot in the AFC, except Joe Burrow. And you have to get a buffalo. This friend get out of here, Joe Burrow. You're not making the playoffs. Just give up. OK. I think the winner of the Super Bowl should have to play the Bengals.

How about that? What? But no one wants to. No one wants to play. No one wants to play Joe Burrow right now, Billy. Nobody. Well, why would you? I mean, you're not going to have to. Right. But Joe Burrow, one team has to play Joe Burrow and it's the Steelers.

And by the way, Steelers, Steelers kind of need to win that game next week if they want to win their division. Yeah, they have home field. So like, yes, there's a couple of still up in the airs or up for grabs. If I like to call them, you want to know the up for grabs for next week? Sure. Have it all have it all written down. Up for grabs next week.

This is it's kind of season ended today, but up for grabs. AFC North, NFC North, and NFC South. And by the way, we are waking up to a morning where for the first time, the Lions are not in the driver's seat. No, San Darnold is. Lions are no longer the number one seed. Right now they're a five seed.

And I mean, it's just because they haven't played this week yet, and they're playing tonight. So, must win game for the Lions tonight, and also, it's setting because they haven't played this week yet, and they're playing tonight. So, must-win game for the Lions tonight, and also, it's setting up for one of the biggest regular seasons ever in a game that you don't want taking place when it's taking place, which is Sunday Night Football next week, which is Lions-Vikings.

And you do not wanna be playing that game. I mean, you wanna win that game so that you get a bye. But like, under normal circumstances, you just wanna rest your guys and not be playing that game. I mean, you want to win that game so that you get a buy, but like under normal circumstances, you just want to rest your guys and not be playing at eight o'clock on Sunday night, the last week of the season. One of those two teams is going to have to go on the road the following week.

Like think about how crazy that is. One of those two teams is going to have to either go to probably Atlanta or Tampa on the road next week despite having 14 wins. By the way, how do you feel for Sam Darnold watching? Like I'm sure you saw the video of him walking into the locker room and then lifting him on his shoulders and dousing him with water and all I could think was for season he's given you this year. As a New York jet, he had 13 career wins. He has 14 wins this season alone for the Vikings.

How could you walk away from what he's done and go with the unknown of JJ McCarthy? The only answer is obviously the contract, but it's going to be hard for the Vikings to walk away from Sam Darnold. Sam Dornal is going to get paid. I want to ask Shirley Schefter what she thinks that JJ McCarthy could fetch in a trade at this point. OK. Like what would I mean? Yeah, I mean, I want to know what you have that.

Yeah, she could ask Adam. Listen, surely got it. We got to ask Jeff in the background. Jeff's feet. But Billy, you were happy with Drew Lock because you needed the Colts to lose that game. So that worked out for you. That worked out for me, but like, if you're a Giants fan, you're watching this happen, like how on, like Drew Lock,

Drew Lock, like what are we doing with Drew Lock? Get out of here. Yesterday, Stu Gottat I was like because because I knew Tyler Huntley was starting for the Dolphins I was talking myself into like wanting anyone be quarterback for the Dolphins because I was like Tyler Huntley in a must-win game like what are we doing also and I knew it was gonna happen and it happened somewhat. I really, I really don't wanna be seeing videos of two on the sidelines with a headset hyping up the guys.

I need a break from this. Again, circle of trust. I need a break from this. You wanna be a great teammate? Play, play in a must win game. Again, again, circle of trust. And I know we read the thing, he really wanted to be out there.

Training staff, Mike McDaniel, Greer, all of them are the ones that are like, no, no, you can't play. Play, you know what you do? Circle of trust, circle of trust, all of us here, circle of trust. You lie to the trainers. That's exactly what you do.

I used to do it in track all the time. I wasn't a football athlete. I had purple ankles because they were so badly sprained. I couldn't walk, I was limping. And I was like, give me a pole, I'll go a football athlete. I had purple ankles because they were so badly sprained I couldn't walk I was limping and I was like give me a pole I'll go back out there I'll run they're like dude you are going to kill yourself if you try to pull volt with sprained ankles You can't even walk you're gonna go up in the air fall down and break your neck But I tried the lie lie lie to the trainers. That's what you do I think getting one past your track and field coach is a little bit easier than getting through the layers of the NFL. You know, I'm not sure.

Listen, let me tell you something. Slip my 100. There's players out there all the time playing with injuries they shouldn't have you have guys playing concussed all the time because they're just like, Hey, what year is it? And they're like, Oh, 2014. They're like, close enough. Get back out there, buddy. He said four.

Exactly. He said, you got three of the four numbers, right? Perfect. All right. So Billy, what do you do? You're saying players play, OK, if you're playing off contention. OK, so the Chiefs have nothing to play for,

but the Chiefs can help your Dolphins out next week. So what do you do if you're Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs? Because you can just merely let the Broncos win and the Broncos get in. You don't have to deal with Tua, you don't have to deal with Joe Burrow. How about that? Well, okay, so I mean, I don't think they're afraid

of dealing with the Dolphins and Tua. They hosted them in the first round of the playoffs last year and they beat them pretty easily. Well, they wouldn't get them in the first round, Billy. Keep them up in the play. No, I know. I know, but I'm saying, look, I mean, if they got them later easily. Well, they wouldn't get them in the first round, Billy. Keep them up to get the point. No, I know, I know, but I'm saying they, look, I mean, if they got them later in the playoffs, it's even better for them than in the first round, as far as the Chiefs are concerned.

The Chiefs have already said they're benching everyone. So the Broncos are gonna have to beat like third string Chiefs, which we'll see if that happens. Well, hold on. Well, there might be a drew-lock scenario where Carson Wentz is playing for Carson. Carson Wentz, Carson Wentz agenda. Carson Wentz agenda could ruin a lot of seasons. This is going to sound fascinating.

This is going to sound bad and very disrespectful. I think the third string cheese could still beat the Broncos. Carson Wentz aside, I think they can still beat the Broncos. Bo Nix has not really shown me very much as of late. I think the question is could the third string Chiefs beat the Bills? Man, I don't understand. The Bills, like, it's so crazy because coming in we're like, the Bills don't really have anyone.

Josh Allen doesn't really have a weapon here. And then they set like an NFL record for most people who have scored a touchdown on offense in the season. They set franchise records for touchdowns scored in a season, it's crazy. By the way, I don't know if you guys caught this yesterday. You may have, you may not have,

because it was so late in the game that you may have turned off the Jets-bills game Were you watching that game at all or no? No, okay. I did well, okay then Then Mikey I'm sure I'm sure Mikey caught this because on the opposite side of the own agenda We were getting like crazy Selfless Josh Allen praise at one point for simply handing a ball off to Cook to score a touchdown on like the one yard line. Because they're like, Josh, this is perfect for Josh.

He's gonna go in there, he's gonna pad his touchdown stats and his MVP candidates. See, and they're like, whoa, whoa, I can't believe it. He did the right thing. That was so selfless. If the NFL MVP award comes down to one touchdown which I don't think it will I think you know what Josh did the right thing that was the right play and we were like praising Josh Allen for simply handing the ball off to his running back on the

one-yard line which was insane I thought it's like guys like calm it down if you want Josh Allen to win the MVP just vote for him Okay, like let's not do this whole thing like he's Superman just because he handed off the guy has videos coming out. Oh look circle of trust circle of trust I Kind of like Josh Allen now circle of trust Mikey circle I want to try circle trust. I want to ride. I want't say it. Mikey, circle. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. I wanna try circle of trust. I wanna try it, I wanna try it. Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. He's always like Josh.

No, false, false. He's like, no, Mikey, he has. False, false. So here's the thing. Here's the thing. No, here's the thing. We have videos of him doing all this charitable work. My cleats, my cause.

He does things with children with cancer. He seems to be a very nice guy, right? Yes. But all of a sudden, handing the ball off to his running back on the one yard line makes him a saint, it's insane. That's not why he's a decent person because he decided to just give the ball to his running back.

Get out of here with that stuff. He's a selfless leader, Billy. He wasn't until that moment. That's when he became the the good selfless guy. And it's like, wow, you know what? I'd be shocked if he doesn't win like Walter Payton, man of the year for handing the ball off on the one yard line.

Like not for any of the other stuff, just for handing the ball off the one yard line. You know what? Walter Payton, man of the year. Thank you, Josh Allen. What a good guy you are. Hey guys, circle of trust. Josh Allen likes you, Billy.

What are you doing? I don't know about that. I'm not criticizing Josh. He told me he likes you. I'm not criticizing Josh. Big dog. I'm criticizing, I'm criticizing what happened around it. Also, also, if we're analyzing the MVP race like and the

stats because like that's become a thing where like Lamar Jackson Josh Allen whatever it should be Sam Darnold okay it shouldn't but they should be Billy self selfless Josh Allen man they take him out of the game a lot like he has pretty good stats and like he didn't play the fourth quarter yesterday and like early in the season out of the game a lot like he has pretty good stats and like he didn't play the fourth quarter yesterday And like early in the season He wasn't playing a lot also like they take about when these games were blown out which kind of affects the stats slightly Yes, Mikey he quickly dismissed me saying it should be Sam Darnold You could also include Jayden Daniels in that conversation

Josh Allen's likely gonna win it but Mikeye seemed to agree with me on Darnold because he knows how good of a season he's having. Can I say something? Can I say something that happened yesterday? That was a team, hold on a second. That was a team that was slated for six wins. They've got 14. I know.

Sam Darnold. He's got 38 sunsets. He's got 14 wins. Can I? Just saying, listen, Josh Allen should win, Lamar Jackson should be second place. Sam Darnold should be in the conversation. That's all I'm saying.

If you vote for him, you're lighting your vote on fire. That is a waste of a vote. Don't even bother with that. I didn't say I'd vote for him number one, but he's on the list. That's all I'm saying. Slat him at number three if you want. That's fine.

Sure. That's fine. Thank you. That's all I want. That's fine. Thank you. That's all I want. Now, here's the thing that made I don't know. I don't know why we're doing postseason awards today, but if you want, we could talk about it. The season ended today. I mean, we've been talking today about the the rookie of the year. And we've been talking about Jayden Daniels all this time and panic.

Well, they have something like ours. Rob Rowers is like ours. He's great. Really good season on a bad team, though. Yeah, he's he's not going to win rookie of the year. But well, the Jaden is he is. But Rob Rowers is setting records like very secretly. Also, yeah.

Also looks like he played in the 1970s. Like his hair situation, circle of trust, his hair situation, the man looks 50 years old. He looks like what every NFL player looked like in like 1975. Yes, Ray Nitschke, yeah. I know what's going on there, but great player, Brock Bowers, congratulations. Can I do the circle of trust thing? I haven't gotten one yet.

Yeah, try it. Okay, circle of trust, guys, circle of trust. The Falcons made the right move, taking Michael Panics. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Listen, that was the greatest incompletion of all time last night. Did you see it? Did you see the one in the first quarter that I'm talking about? Everyone was raving about the hard trades.

You guys, it was like to be good. One of those like 50 yard seam passes that was like it was like a laser man. He doesn't have to throw. He doesn't have to put loft on it to get it downfield. It's like Elway and Josh Allen, to be honest with you, he seems to be pretty good, pretty good. And he's he's going to give you Kirk Cousins next year for the Jets. So well, no, no, no, no, we're signing drew lock. OK, good. All right.

To complete with to compete with Tyron. Maybe Carson Wentz. We'll see how this week goes. We'll see his agenda. By the way, Carson Wentz wins this game. He's a jet next year. Call it now. No doubt.

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after the games are played. After the first round, I'm still maintaining before this round is played. I would have been fine without this round existing. I still would have been fine with just four because that first round was horrific. And listen, I love a good playoff game. However, Penn State Boise State

doesn't seem necessary to me, like I'm good without that game existing, I'm good with neither of those teams advancing, but one of them has to Billy. There are two games this week that are interesting to me and only two games. And it makes me think that perhaps there should be like, you know, six to eight teams in this thing. It's the it's the Notre Dame, Georgia game, right? Yeah. And Ohio State, Oregon and And Ohio State, Oregon.

The Ohio State game. Yeah, that's it. The other games, like the fact that they had all this time to come up with an expanded 12 team playoff and what they came up with is a scenario which Boise stayed as a bye week to freshen up before their first playoff. And Arizona State.

And Arizona State is absurd, I'm sorry. Listen, the 12 teams is fine. I get what you're trying to do. The problem is you got to see them right way. Just see them one to 12. You don't. You do not need to see them where the conference champion is the ones getting the buy because then we'd have the right teams getting the buy and the right teams played last week. We might've had some good games last week. We might've had, we might've had Boise State, Arizona State. I might've enjoyed that. That might've been okay.

Well, and by the way, and if you see them one to 12, Alabama gets in. Oh, no doubt. No doubt. Of course. And if you wanna get the conference champions in because of whatever, like that's fine, but you don't have to give them a buy.

You do not have to do that. I do like the idea of like the bubble teams, not like the bubble teams that didn't make it like, Boise State and Arizona State, like guys. Play again. Congratulations, you made the playoffs. You're both playing in the first round for the right to play the real schools.

Like, respectfully, respectfully to Boise State and Arizona State and all their alumni and fan bases and the states and the United States of America, respectfully to all of them, but Boise State, you have a blue field and you had one moment in a bowl game 15 years ago that anyone remembers. It was a good moment though. The wedding proposal.

It was a great moment. Oh great moment. Marriage play, wedding proposal. Oh I hope that. The Statue of Liberty. Yeah. Oh what would be two moments then? I mean it was all connected. You had a night. It's all one thing. Exactly right. You had a night. Congratulations. We love you for it. That doesn't mean you get a buy. This is just between us. That doesn't mean you get a buy. Just between us. Like enough. I want to start doing Arizona State. You can't even get to Jake Plummer's been there. You're a party school. OK, I'm sure you have great tailgates. Don't give it like you don't deserve a buy.

OK, like enough with this. Agreed. Yeah, I think Billy should be the Joe Lennardi of college football because I hear him talking about bubble teams and college football. Yeah. Billy brackets. Billy brackets. Do it. I'm gonna write this down. I want it now. Yeah.

Billy brackets. Did you see what's picking up steam this week? No. Nick Saban should be commissioner of college football. I'm down with that. Of course you are. We've been talking about a commissioner of college football. I'm down with that. Of course you are. I knew as soon as I saw that, a commissioner of college football forever. As soon as I saw that, I said, I know someone who's going to love this idea.

Can we call him a czar? You have to call him a czar. Yes. The czar of college football. Yes. I don't know why I wrote down Billy brackets, but Alabama would never miss a playoff again. Oh, no, no, no, no. Come on, get out of here. That's fine. So you're not excited, really. I'm with you guys. I'm excited for two of the four games.

I have to get in Arizona. They should not have a buy. It's looks we're doing it. And I want Texas obviously to advance. Right. However, I mean, why are we sitting around playing Arizona State for respectfully to Arizona State and the state of Arizona. You don't have to be respectful to Arizona State. I'm just trying to be respectful, yeah. Yeah, but you don't have to be.

By the way, the Pop Tarts Bowl, it names the Pop Tarts Bowl, lived up to expectations. Holy crap, Pop Tarts gets it. They just get it. They get it. They just get it. I know there's people,

they get it in more ways than you think, because I know there's a lot of people here like you know what, like I don't want a gimmicky bowl game. Like friends, that's all bowl games are. It's all gimmicks, it's all for the brands. So like Pop Tarts trying the hardest and being the best at the gimmicks, I love it. Sinking into it, yes, they should all do that. So you guys, I don't know if you saw what happened in the Pop Tarts Bowl, not just on

the field, but off the field as well. So who watched on the field? Well on the field, no one was playing defense whatsoever. Right, Kim Ward played a half. I mean, I didn't watch the Pop Tarts Bowl. Broke a record, took himself out. Good for him. Between us.

Well, here's, so here's, here's what you missed in the Pop Tarts Bowl, Stu Gotts. I don't know if you saw last year's edition of the Pop Tarts Bowl, but it was you know last year was was a big hit. It was very exciting. You had the Pop Tarts mascot dancing around and then at the end the Pop Tarts mascot stepped on the big fake poster. And then the Pop Tarts mascot went into the I guess it's not fake the Pop Tarts mascot went into the, I guess it's not fake, the Pop Tarts mascot went into the giant toaster and then came out and they ate the Pop Tarts mascot. Pop Tarts mascot sacrificed him or herself last year

and was eaten by the winning team. It was a very sad day because we lost a great mascot. And then this year's Pop Tarts bowl came out. Yeah. Yeah, strawberry frosted Pop Tarts. Then this year's Pop Tarts Bowl came out. Yeah. Yes, Strawberry Frosted Pop Tarts. Then this year's Pop Tarts Bowl started and, you know, with the new year comes a new trophy for the Pop Tarts Bowl. This Pop Tarts Bowl trophy is a working toaster. And we had three mascots this year.

But again, we're still missing Strawberry Frosted who paid the ultimate sacrifice and sacrificed him or herself to the winning team who then you know ate strawberry frosted didn't eat strawberry frosted completely you know they ate as much as you could it was a giant pop tart so we were out there and we were running around the pop tarts were running around which are the pop tarts gonna be they ripped off their pop tarts you know I don't even know clothes, pop tarts, clothes, like the aluminum foil wrapping, and we saw who the new pop tarts mascots were.

And then we paid tribute to the Strawberry Frosted Pop Tart who- A true in memoriam. A true in memoriam on the screen. It was 2024 to 2024, whatever the years were, and they were, you know, the sad music was playing. It's a sad day without you, my friend. So so that's all playing and we have a nice tribute and lo and behold rising from the dead

was strawberry Frosted pop-tart masks mascot on top of the scoreboard now Didn't look didn't look the same as last year strawberry frosted pop-tart This one looked exactly like the devoured strawberry frosted pop tart. So it had pieces missing and it was all charred and burned and there's strawberry frosting but. Gave us hope gave us hope because this year's winners chose to eat cinnamon or cinnamon roll I don't know which pop tart it was.

Those eat the cinnamon roll the MVP got to choose which flavor we're going to eat they chose the cinnamon roll. I don't know which pop tart was those eat the cinnamon roll. The MVP got to choose which flavor we're going to eat. They chose the cinnamon roll, but now we know cinnamon roll maybe back next year and may not be gone forever. So it's important big day, big day for the pop tarts bowl. They get it. Thank you for the recap. Yeah.

Well, I like how you say thank you for the very thorough of the pop tarts bowl because I didn't recap a single damn thing that happened in the actual game. Well, who cares about it? It didn't happen. Right. By the way, circle of trust. OK, I think the teams that lost last week in the college football playoff.

Yeah. If they played Arizona State or Boise State, the teams that lost that have been eliminated on a neutral field, I think I take all four losing teams to win the game. Indiana looked pretty bad. I forgot about that. They looked pretty bad. Yeah, but Indiana Boise State on a neutral field. I mean, well, hold on. Are we talking Boise State or Arizona State? Would you take Tennessee over Arizona State or Boise State on a neutral field?

Right now. Yes. Right now. What are we doing? I don't know. That's a good question. What are we doing? SMU?

How do we feel about SMU? They'd beat Boise State. They'd beat Boise State. They might beat Arizona State too. Alright. Yeah. It was a fourth. Who did Notre Dame beat at Indiana? Indiana. I'll check it out.

Although I'll tell you right now, this is a fun game with the four losing plans and Clemson Clemson. I take Clemson just I would tell them so we're both teams. I would, too. Just just based on on their history. I take clubs. I agree. Yes. Yeah, I'm so glad that we I'm so glad we have 12 teams in the playoffs, though. It's great. So much fun. It's pretty stupid. You're going to make your big board bets.

What was that? I do have my big board bets we can get to. What was that, Mikey? I was just going to say I would do the same thing with the Bengals after this week. Whoever whoever loses the first round of the NFL playoffs, I'd take the Bengals over them in a neutral site. Yeah. How do you address this with Carson Wentz? Because Carson Wentz could be out there playing for himself, but really what's best for the team?

Like what is Andy Reed's kid? For a while like Carson Wentz? I mean, why would Andy Reed say? He's even played Carson Wentz. I mean, why would the Chiefs... Who's their third string? Why would they want to lose, though, the Chiefs? Well, I just think if you're looking at the landscape of the AFC, the two teams... Of the three teams that still have a chance of making it into the playoffs, the other six spots...

You want the Broncos? The Broncos? No, no, I know what you're going to say. I know what you're going to say. I know what you're going to say. The Broncos are very good. They're well coached. They have a Super Bowl champion head coach, Sean Payton. I get it. I'm just saying if you're just basing it on the quarterback and stuff like that, I think the team you most would want in

there in the event that you have to play them at some point would be the Denver Broncos. Joe Burrow has a winning record against my homes. Well, OK, so I think and I could be wrong. I think you'd want the Dolphins. And I'm saying this is a bias, Dolphin over the Broncos. I do, because the Broncos, it took the. You can't control that. You can't control it.

You can't control that. But Mike, he's right. You can't control it. Billy, what the only thing you could control is keeping Joe burrow out Well, okay, but but but that game is happening Saturday, I believe so you're gonna know the result of that game beforehand That's and they play it's like they play Pittsburgh Saturday and the Steelers need to win and the Steelers need to win You're right. Yes So like you're gonna go into your game is if you're the Chiefs and the Dolphins by the way both play Sunday at 425 Saturday at 8 o'clock is the Chiefs and the Dolphins, by the way, both play Sunday at 425. Saturday at 8 o'clock

is the Bengals and the Steelers, so you're going to know the Bengals result headed into that game. If the Ravens win at 4 o'clock, the Steelers have nothing to play for. Yeah, it's a wrap, actually. It's a wrap. The Ravens will have locked up the division. The Ravens beat the Browns at home, which they will at 1 o'clock, at 430, I'm sorry. Then it's over, essentially. Mike Tomlin does not rest. Oh, no, that's a good. You give us a play address and we will. Well, well, hold on, Mikey, because he might be playing for that fifth seed

because the Chargers are also a 10 and six. So. What does what does that do for you? What is what does the fifth seed versus the sixth seed do for you? The fifth seed brings you to Houston. That's what it does for you. It was what is the fifth seed versus the sixth seed do for you? The fifth seed brings you to Houston. That's what it does for you. It brings you to Houston week one of the playoffs. Mike Collin does not care who is across now, but the sixth seed brings you to Baltimore. Come on, stop that.

You would want that. No, we would want Texas. What that I think he wants to prove it. I think headed into I think head into the playoffs. I Texas might be the team everybody wants. Yes. I mean, it depends who who depends who gets the final wild card spot. But Texas right now, I'm not looking good.

The Steelers are going to have to play. But he wants the Bengals. Yeah, nobody wants the Bengals who weren't in the playoffs. I love the NFL. Billy, we have a Monday night game tonight. Lion 49ers. Yes, I love you guys said it earlier, there's going to be potentially a 14 and three team has a wild card. No, there is going to be a 14 win team is a wild card. That's

happening. No, there is going to be a 14 win team as a wild card. That's happening. It's absolutely insane. 14 and three wild card. They fight for the Lions. I know the NFL should do something about that, though. What are they going to do? Just seed them by record, man.

Oh, what do you think? You can't have the Falcons. You can't have the Bucs as a higher seed than the 14 and three. You sure can. Baker is going to be a problem. I mean, yes, I mean, you might beat the box, but you're going to have to kill Baker. I mean, seriously. Oh, OK. I mean, he's a good. You got some bets.

I do have some bets, by the way, five and one against you. God, you're welcome, everyone everyone for the great season I've had Thank you the Raiders also Raider Raiders didn't understand the assignment yesterday I think I think Antonio Pierce was playing for his own agenda yesterday, right? That's because they didn't have a keen and Allen to tell everybody we're not playing for the coach. That's right That's why I had it Devante Adams. He's with the Jets now, right? Yes. Did you guys see also this weekend? There was some some whispers

some whispers Mike McCarthy may have done enough to keep Get a new contract It's crazy there what there was the caveat, it's not just up to Jerry though, which by the way, yes it is. It is. It is. Circle of trust, it is.

It definitely is just up to Jerry. The circle of trust, it is, I mean. Just, it's okay Mike, you let it go. We're not supposed to have this episode, we don't have sponsors, don't kill yourself. Let that one fly. I got you, Billy. Don't worry, we're good, we're good.

I'm sorry Billy, I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry, children. If you're listening out here. But anyways, you want some big board bets? Yes, I want some big board bets. And then I want to finish with if the season ended today. Mikey has okay off matchups. All right. I'll go very quick. Okay. All right. Big board bets brought to you by we don't have a sponsor right now. If I was in a draft Kings state this or bets that I may I may feel strongly enough about put in the first one the lions minus three and a half tonight smart pick must win game today for the lions which is crazy would you have thirteen wins and you only have two games left in the season but they need to win this game and 49ers Not not looking the best right now, so I'm gonna say the Lions plus or sorry minus three and a half So Billy why you doing your second pick here?

I think it's such a fascinating decision the Niners have to make in the offseason Kyle Shanahan's fine. They'll keep them I'm not certain they should the decision is whether or not Mikey they pay Brock Purdy I mean because they've been living on that rookie scale that... rookie contract and filling in around Brock Purdy and... he's been good good enough to get them to the Super Bowl I... don't know if he's great I don't know if he's a guy that... you want to pay you know $30 million a year to well that... is a perfect setup so you guys because my next one is...

Brock Purdy over 254 and a half passing yards. You're welcome. Yep, Lions pass defense, not the best. Right. So Mikey, what do they do there? Trade him to the Jets, because I would take him in a second. I was going to say, let the Jets side.

Suddenly the Jets have a quarterback room that's Brock Purdy, Carson, Lester Drulock, and Tyron, don't forget Tyron. Aiden O'Connell. I think you have to pay him. I think you have to pay him because you don't have another option. Yeah, I guess.

I mean, he's good. He's good enough. He wasn't their problem this season. No, no, but Billy, he's good enough when you're paying him a rookie scale contract. Is's good enough when you're paying him a rookie scale contract. Is he good enough when you're paying him, you know, elite level type money? You're right. I don't worry about that. All right. The next one, if not him, I am worried about what the what do I?

Honestly, it is going to sound what do I care what they have to pay these players? It's not coming out of my money. I'm not a topologist. I don't even figure it out because you love somebody has to go. Somebody has to go if you pay these players. It's not coming out of my money. I'm not the capologist. I don't need to figure it out. Because you love football. Because somebody has to go. Somebody has to go if you pay your quarterback. I don't care. It's not my team. And you love football.

I love football, but I don't love math, so I'm not gonna be trying to figure out the roster. There's no math. Right now they're paying them like a half-boy in a year and now they're gonna have to pay them first. No, dead cap and live cap and this cap and that. And he's buying his offensive lineman $100,000 cars for Christmas.

That was so dumb. Dude, why did you buy so many's buying his offensive lineman hundred thousand dollar cars for Christmas. That was so dumb. Dude, why did you buy so many cars for your offensive lineman? You don't have the money yet. You spent almost your entire salary on cars for your offensive lineman. Don't do that. Wait until you get paid.

Okay, maybe, but what if he gets injured today and he doesn't get his money? Just wait. Okay, anyway, next one. gets injured today and he doesn't get his money. Just wait. OK, anyway, next one. Jameer Gibbs over 18 and a half rushing attempts. All right. 49ers run defense, not the best.

And I feel like Jameer Gibbs now that he's the main guy is going to get a lot of attempts tonight. So there are other running back is out. Right. So that's I like that that Billy. It's a good bet. Yeah, we'll see. Hopefully we get back on track. We we had had a bad two weeks. We're going to be perfectly on a circle of trust. We've had a bad two weeks.

I've let you guys down two and five two weeks ago. Last week, Owen to Owen to and you say why and to you made three picks because we had a late scratch on one of the bets before the game started. So that bet gets tossed out. So Owen to. Yeah. Oh, I was five and one again. I mean, you mentioned that seventy seven forty three and two on the season. I have the Lions tonight. No one cares. Mikey, let's get to the sea.

Are you are you not happy that people have wanted to get my big board bets? You seem not happy every time it comes. I mean, we're just making a big deal about your big board bets and you do. We're not. I'm not down on a small board and you dressed it up and it's all fun and it's great. And I'm just sitting here turning out winners and no one cares because they're an admin. Yes, I'm jealous. I care. I wrote it down on a card.

I wrote him down because I bet him as you said, I wrote him down so I could bet. Yes. Yeah, I took the Lions tonight. So anyway, if the season so Billy gave you his big board bats He's been great all year except for the last two weeks. That's fine. Everyone has a little That's a little slump over the course of the season except me except you All right Mikey so we'll finish out here with if the season ended today What do you have for us if the NFL season ended today, what do you have for us? If the NFL season ended today.

If the NFL season, all right, circle of trust, the AFC is probably not gonna change much. So we'll do them first. If the season ended today, the Denver Broncos are headed to the Buffalo Bills. Billy likes the Broncos. I mean, I do not like the Broncos. I've been very clear about that.

Seems like he loves them. Not what I heard. Exactly right. Thank you. Loves them. Not so sure you want the dolphins of the team. You want to let it. If you're the chiefs.

Right. Broncos almost beat the chiefs like a couple of weeks ago. They had to block a field goal. Right. It's going to be a blowout. Broncos, the bills blow out the Broncos. Yes. If the season ended today, this is where it gets a little shaky.

The Chargers would go to the Ravens or Bumble again. Wow. Horrible. Horrible. Horrible sir. Always one sided. Yes. Yeah. It's always John.

James, like John, John's figure Jim out. Yeah. Yeah. John's got Jim's number. Yeah. They're brothers. They should have each other's number. If season ended today, the joke, it was a good one.

The Steelers. Wait, hold on a second. What are we doing? Are we saying the Ravens win that game? Yeah, we're just saying if the season ended today, yeah, the more wins the play. All right, all right. The Steelers go to the Texas. Yeah, you want that for the Steelers.

You bought that's what I was saying before. Yeah, the Steelers win. Oh, OK. I mean, if we're going to play the season ended today, I want to play if the season ended today, I like making predictions. Yes, yes. To the NFC. So the chiefs have a bye week that way.

Who would the chiefs get in that scenario? If those three teams, the lowest, the lowest. Yeah, you see they recede in the NFL. So it would be the Steelers then, right? Well, it depends if the Broncos in your scenario. I'm saying the three teams win that I just said, Mikey. Yeah. It would be the Steelers, right? They would get the Steelers.

So it would be Ravens, Bills, Steelers and Chiefs, Steelers at Kansas City. And then the the Chiefs would play the winner of the Ravens and Bills and Buffalo. Oh, jeez. I'm just I'm trying to figure out where it is that Lamar Jackson's gonna lose. And it's the second round. I think you just did. I think you just did.

Yes. I just nailed it. Yes. All right. In the NFC, if the season ended today, the Green Bay Packers, the 11 and five Green Bay Packers would be facing the 13 and three Philadelphia Eagles. Wow. Packers would be facing the 13 and three Philadelphia Eagles. Hmm.

Shailen hurts healthy. Well, if the season ended today, he would be the season. This neither is Kenny, neither is Kenny Pickett. Neither is Kenny Pickett. Hmm. Wow. I don't know if the season ended today, the Eagles, who would be their quarterback? Yep, Packers had me yesterday. Wow. So if the season ended today, the Eagles, who would be their quarterback? Yep.

Packers had me worried yesterday. Packers had me a little concerned yesterday. They came back. They came back, but not enough. They came back. Sam Darnold ended that game. I mean, because he's good now. Not enough.

Because he's good now, because he's not on the Jets. He will be again. So Eagles, Packers. It's a great game. It's not a great game. If Tanner McKee is your quarterback, it is not. OK, if the season ends today, Tanner would be your quarterback.

Yeah, yeah. All right. Did you see did you see they threw Tanner's first touchdown into the crowd and then they had to do some negotiating? Good thing for the Eagles this season doesn't end today, but if it did, big Dom got that ball back. Good to see him back in the mix. The NFC is going to be fun, huh? We'll see. Let's go to the next game. If the season ended today, the 11 win Washington commanders would be going to the Rams,

the 10 and six Rams would host the 11 and five commanders. Wow. Two teams you don't want to see come playoff time is are they? No one wants to play the Rams and no one wants to play Jayden Daniels. OK, she's that play last night. It looked like he like almost snapped his knee in half and you guys see that? He was fine. He was. got up. He was not fine. Everyone get the whole stadium was concerned. Coaches freaking out. Terry McClure walked over. He's like a good guy. Stop enough. Knock it off.

Went on to have a great game. I love Jayden Dingles. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready? Yeah. Excellent. All right. If the season ended today, mind you, this one is very much up in the air, very much up in the air. This is the biggest one up in the air. But if the season ended today, the 13 and two Detroit Lions would be traveling to the nine and seven Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Wow. Circle of trust. Give me the box. Oh, shut up. Circle of trust.

Circle of trust in that game. Give me the box. Circle of trust. Same. Oh, you guys are insane. You guys are crazy. You like the lions, huh? You like the lions up that that that would you know what I like in that game the over 150 percent I like the over in that game.

You should have already put it on the big board. Goff on grass home baker. I have the bucks with the adjusted line. Bucks win by 21. Wow. Buy it up. I'm gonna take the bucks minus 19. I ate Baker winning the Super Bowl. Circle of trust.

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