The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF - NFL Draft Live from Nashville
Episode Date: April 25, 2025Billy, Mikey A and Andrew Hawkins are live at the Draft Kings Sports and Social in Nashville for the first round of the NFL Draft. The guys react to the big moves and picks in round one of the draft ...while trying to make "bold" predictions, deal with crowd producers and contain their excitement for each pick. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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You are listening to Draft Kings Network.
Live from the Draft Kings, Ford and Social.
This is the 2025 NFL Draft watch along of the NFL Draft.
That's in Green Bay, Wisconsin at Lambeau Field.
This place is packed.
I'm shocked to see all of these people here.
It was a slow build today.
We are here live at Nashville.
They're engaged.
They're ready to go, Billy.
I didn't think they were gonna be able to hear me,
so I thought I could talk a little crap about them,
but instead we're gonna be very friendly the Titans today.
We're joined by Andrew Hawkins, Mikey A is here. We're gonna be taking you
through two hours this first round of the NFL Draft Live again here at the
DraftKings Sports and Social at Nashville, Tennessee. We were driving
around the city today and the energy was palpable. It was electric.
Everywhere we looked people people were saying,
we want Cam Ward, we want Cam Ward.
They were screaming Cam on every street corner that we saw.
This place is on fire right now.
Well, there was that one guy screaming,
we still want Will Levis.
And frankly, he's wrong.
We don't care what Will Levis says.
Yeah, he's wrong, yeah.
Why was Will Levis sitting downtown,
was what we were wondering.
When we encountered him.
So, that makes a lot of sense.
One of the saddest things that I've seen in Nashville,
which is an incredible city,
it's my first time in the city,
everyone's been incredibly welcoming.
One of the first things I saw when we came into Nashville
was driving past the stadium.
We saw a Will Levis banner that was probably 80 feet tall.
Yeah. And I saw it and I said you know what this is not gonna exist tomorrow
because we don't know for sure but it appears as though Will Levis will no
longer be your starting quarterback. That'll be the question. Will the big
mural of Will Levis still be there tomorrow? What do you do with a mural
that size? Like if you're Will Levis do you ask for that? I do. Yeah. For sure I ask for it.
You put that in storage somewhere?
You put it somewhere.
Like when I eventually become a tech CEO
and have a space big enough to actually hang a banner
like that.
But you ask for it.
Yeah.
Most NFL players don't.
Drape your house in it?
I would be excited that I would have had a bureau at some point
Most guys that were like the guy and then it comes down don't feel that way
They usually hold a grudge against the team for forever that you hear about 30 years later on podcast
But for me, I'm asking for it. Yeah, we'll keep sake will love this doesn't think he's not gonna be the guy after tonight He just thinks he he'll be the guy somewhere else I assume He will they won't you don't think so
Whoa
First off scouting prowess number two, let's not disrespect the CFL
Okay, there's a lot of damn good football that's played north of the border on all three down
Well, you have 12 guys fighting their ass off.
Trying to make it 110 yards for a touchdown.
Will Levis make it in Canada?
Yeah, he could.
There's definitely football being played north of the border.
I don't know about damn good, but there's football being played.
That cannot be disputed.
I'll tell my Canadian fans.
We have a very exciting night,
that person, both the people following along on YouTube.
We have Cam Ward jerseys that we're gonna be giving out.
We're gonna be giving out Cam Ward,
Tennessee Titans jerseys, before you can even get them.
Hot off the presses.
We're gonna be giving this one out here,
we're gonna be giving one out online,
and here's the fun thing about this Cam Ward jersey,
is that this is probably gonna be one of three Cam Ward number one jerseys that exist because he's gonna have the one that he holds
Up tonight, and then he's never gonna be number one because number one is retired because war and moon run it
So this is definitely not gonna be his number. Yeah, but you can get this Jersey
It would also be even more limited edition if he doesn't go number one
That would make me like honestly that's kind of what I'm rooting for,
and it has nothing to do with Cam Ward
going to the Tennessee Titans.
I just want the chaos of us having
Cam Ward number one over all jerseys to give out,
and he doesn't go there.
So there are a few things that I have been rooting for
for this draft coming into today.
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Coming into the draft today,
there are some things that I was rooting for.
The number one thing that I was rooting for,
and again, I love Nashville, Tennessee,
and this wouldn't have changed anything,
but I was rooting that the Titans traded the number one pick
so that us being here in Nashville,
when the draft was in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
because we thought the Titans would have the number one pick,
if they traded that number one pick and didn't have it It would have made even less sense
So I was kind of hoping that that would happen now
Second best thing that could happen is that they don't take camp warden
We're giving away these jerseys that make absolutely no sense collectors items. Yes
very very
Rare jerseys that nobody else on planet Earth would have yeah, which makes it that much more special who's gonna win it?
Anybody out there gonna win it?
Anybody out there gonna win it?
No!
We got some takers.
Some takers, okay.
Is it not weird that Lil Wayne is a Green Bay Packers fan?
That's not weird to anybody else?
You have to be hurt if you're from New Orleans
and you're a Saints fan, right?
You have to be a little bit hurt.
I know, but rappers-
Like how much he claims it.
Rappers specifically are so like
Location based territorial like it's what they're known for is where they're from
So for him to rep the Green Bay Packers, it's a very weird thing for me. I've never accepted it
How many times did you interact with Roger Goodell if ever um I've interacted with him twice. I don't, he is very good at, I believe,
acting like he knows who you are.
Okay.
And that's a rare skill.
Because you're always looking for that moment
for it to be like, ha, I knew you didn't know
who the hell I was.
And I never got it with him.
So I never quite got confirmation that he didn't know me,
but in my heart of hearts,
I feel like you have no idea who the hell I am, Roger.
Well, I definitely didn't say your name,
but you're also too old to be called like champ or sport,
so what is his go-to?
There he is.
There he is.
There he is.
And it was like, damn it. That guy.
That's the one I didn't, I hope you didn't say you know any any went with it see I
Have I I'm at a disadvantage with that because everybody always gets away with going. Hey, what's going on big fella?
What's going on big guy that I'm like you don't know who I am
That transcends a that work is nothing I could do about it that works in every stage of life, so you just gotta I
Would appreciate if people act like they know me and don't know me.
I also wouldn't mind if they don't know me.
I prefer it because then I can be like, thank God, I don't remember you either.
So Hawk, we have a number of things that I prepared today because I wasn't sure what
your anticipations and expectations were for the draft and what you wanted to do.
We spoke about our prep for the draft for about three minutes this week.
And after, and it was basically, what did they tell you?
Like, well, I got an email saying, can you be here?
Can I make it to Nashville?
So, we came in with a number of games that we wanted to play throughout the night
that we don't have to do every pick, we could do whenever we needed.
Mikey has anonymous sources in which he's going to read us anonymous sources
on different things that we need to guess who it is that draft that
they're talking about I like that one I have a series courtesy of the USA Today
which did something that I had never even considered but I thought was great
so everybody does their mock drafts Mel Kuybert as his mock drafts Todd McShay
everybody has their mock drafts out there USA Today had this great idea of
collecting AI mock drafts so they have of collecting AI mock drafts. So they
have four different AI mock drafts. So we're going to for the first time have
four different AI mock drafts that we're going to be comparing the actual draft
to to see which AI was closest to the actual draft. We have Mikey's grades
after certain picks who will be giving us his grades and tell us how that
affects the team, how he's feeling about this, all of that.
I also have offensive line rankings by one of our co-worker, Taylor's roommates named
Ian who works in finance.
But every year he does offensive line rankings because he's a Jets fan and there's always
an offensive lineman that they need or want.
What is his expertise in offensive line?
Absolutely none.
He just watches, he didn't even play football.
He just really goes and he grades the offensive lineman. The Tennessee Titans are officially on the clock.
The draft is underway. This is exciting.
We have the giveaway that we mentioned. We also have the Beast with us from the Athletics.
So if we have any questions, I can consult the Beast at any point in time. And because we weren't sure the level of preparation,
we went upstairs, we were eating lunch,
and Hawk was watching game tape.
And he has stuff on every single player.
So we should have you covered for all angles today.
Every single guy known to man in college football.
I actually have been watching a considerable
amount of college tape because of the transfer portal.
You mentioned that in passing earlier,
and I was curious as to why you're watching
the transfer portal so closely.
I'm not at liberty to say, but let's just say
I may or may not be consulting,
helping an FBS football program,
find the diamonds and the rough necessary
to take their program to the next level.
You know, I was watching the film over his shoulder,
and his notes and mine were very similar.
He was writing some stuff and I was like, you know what?
That guy, he's got a little bit of a problem
changing direction.
There it is.
I was writing the same things.
We're locked step.
Cam Ward, is this where this is getting drafted?
It would appear as though Cam Ward will probably be
the number one pick in the draft.
I was talking to some Titans fans earlier who were not excited about Cam Ward being
their quarterback of the future.
Why?
I don't know.
Ask the guy over there with the beard and the glasses.
I need a real reason.
He was just ranting.
He's right there.
That's Steve McGair.
Why are you not excited about Cam Ward being your quarterback of the future?
Here's what I love about Cam Ward.
He's gone to three programs.
And you asked a question earlier,
I'm not gonna step on the toes there.
But it was basically related to like,
you know, your sentiment around the game of football as a prospect.
And a lot of times when you see guys bounce around program to program,
it feels oaky to me as a football person.
Like I want the person who wants development,
I want the person who's focused more
on how good they can get,
rather than what the program is doing for them.
And I don't mean that in a negative way,
but when I look at Cam Ward, I feel the opposite,
because I feel like he's a guy who again,
started from the low of the low.
There was a meme going around like,
judging him against, I think it was DJ,
Yugaleli, is that how you say his last name?
Ugelele.
Sure, yes.
But he was a five star, Kambo was a zero star.
A zero star, gonna be a number one pick in the draft.
Which means they didn't even waste the time to grade him.
So this is a guy who bounced from program to program,
but at every level was at a quest to prove who he was.
And when you hear him speak,
when you hear him talking about the draft, when you hear him talking about the draft,
when you hear him talking about his career,
and he continues to lament that he is not worried
about where he's drafted,
but he is worried about the actual career.
Like, he doesn't care where he's taken it.
I know that's cliche, everybody says that,
but I don't know, when you hear him speak,
you just feel it.
You feel a confidence, you feel a guy who's out to prove
he's one of the best quarterbacks in the world.
Let me ask you, going to the Titans,
is that a good spot for him?
Like, do they have enough around him
for there to be enough success for you to think
after year one, this was a good pick?
Here's my thing with quarterbacks,
especially once they get drafted early on,
I don't wanna cuddle a first round quarterback, to be honest.
Yeah, there's situations you can go in
that are better than other ones, but typically,
again, a team that's drafting that high,
you're not very good.
But what I want as a quarterback who feels like
they're the catalyst to turn that around,
who's genuinely confident to say,
I don't give a damn what the O-line looks like right now,
we'll get it better. I don't give a damn who I have at receiver, I don't give a damn what the O-line looks like right now. We'll get it better.
I don't give a damn who I have a receiver.
I don't give a damn who the coach is.
The fact that you have me in the building
means you'll have a chance,
whether it's this year or over time.
You mentioned him bouncing around from school to school
and saying that sometimes you like to see players
stick around and develop more.
One of the things that he did
and the reason that he bounced around
is out of loyalty to the coach who brought him
because he didn't get a lot of offers.
So he went to a carnit work and then his head coach goes on to Washington State.
So he follows his coach to Washington State out of loyalty to him.
After he had some successful seasons, Lane Kiffin was coming.
Lane Kiffin was trying to get him and he stayed loyal to his coach.
He stayed loyal to Washington State.
His senior year he eventually leaves. He goes down to Miami obviously.
But while bouncing around he was staying loyal to the people who believed in him when no
one else did and no one else gave him the opportunities.
Yeah, and on top of that, it is not disconnected that his coach from Incarnate World goes to
this Washington State that gets that opportunity as a coach.
Because you have a player like Cam Ward.
Like you were just saying.
Who gives you all that success and again, now it's like I'm riding your coattails
as much as you're riding mine.
So that coach, Eric Morse, was also Patrick Mahomes'
offensive quarter at Texas Tech.
So a good guy, a good guy to be following around.
There are comps there between Kam Ward and Patrick Mahomes,
as some people have said,
not saying that he's going to be Patrick Mahomes,
but saying that he makes the most out of certain opportunities the same way
that Patrick Mahomes does.
Yep.
The off-kilter stuff, the play breakdown,
run around, scramble, make a play,
shovel it to your tight end who was supposed to be blocking
the whole time anyway.
It's crazy that that is like the standard now.
Now we want you to be so off-script
that we can pay you to Patrick Mahomes. The thing I like about Camp Ward, even with those off scripts,
and he can get off script a little unnecessarily at times. He does leave the
pocket probably a little too early at times, but I never feel like he's doing
it just because. I'll be honest with Caleb Williams, there's been so many
moments and obviously hindsight is 20-20 now that we have his rookie season to compare it to.
But coming out of the draft, I had Jaden Daniels over him for that reason because it felt sometimes
that he was doing it because he had a knack for the, you know, the flair of it all.
And I don't want that in my quarterback.
Like you can make the wrong decision as long as in the moment you felt like this is what
needed to happen.
I don't always feel that way with Caleb Williams
when I look at his college team.
All right guys, the pick is in.
It hasn't been announced yet.
And before we get the official announcement,
I wanna ask both of you, bold prediction for tonight.
What do you guys think?
What's something crazy that could happen
tonight in the draft?
Billy, you go first. I think my bold
prediction is going to be that Cam Ward will be the number one chicken. I like that.
There's a lot of people out here, some hubbub people saying maybe he won't be.
Pretty sure it's official. A lot of people have been saying it Billy. People
have been saying it you know. I like that. Billy been saying it, Billy. People have been saying it, you know.
I like that.
Billy, I'm hearing different things.
People like to say things.
Sometimes you gotta go out on a limb.
I mean, we'll see if Billy's right
before I give my vote of prediction.
Yeah.
Here we go.
The first pick in the 2025 Edelgirl's Rack, the Tennessee Titans, select...
Select...
Cam Worms.
Oh, they're smoke shooting out of the ceiling here in Tennessee.
They didn't go as crazy in here as I thought they would be.
There's a...
People don't seem as excited about this pick.
They didn't go nuts.
Yeah.
Not nuts.
Doesn't seem like they think they found their franchise
quarterback. How do you feel about that, by the way? People comparing him to last year's
quarterback trap. Oh, we have breaking news. The Browns were on the clock. The Browns have
traded their pick to the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jacksonville Jaguars are picking at number
two. Are they taking the same guy we thought the Browns were
taking?
Are they taking Travis Hunter?
They do need a wide receiver.
They do.
They also need a defensive lineman.
They need a defensive lineman.
They need a quarterback.
Sorry.
Hot take.
They need an every time.
Wow.
They need an everything.
The Jacksonville Jaguars need a little bit of literally
everything.
But there's somebody. I feel like it's gotta be
It's gotta be Travis Hunter I
mean it
It'd be crazy to trade up all the way to two from five
Not to take the guy that was gonna go with two or three. Yeah, I mean, maybe it's Abdul Carter
It's gotta be one of those two. I mean we assume the Giants were gonna take Abdul Carter
So if they trade up, maybe they're trying to get it
I don't know kind of root of them by the way to not let camp ward have his moment
Yeah, cuz we already can't even see him celebrate this situation. Everybody's on to talk about the Jaguars
Also, I don't know why it was weird for me to hear Roger Goodell call him Cameron Ward
Yeah, I don't know about that either. Obviously his full name is Cameron. I don't know what I expected. Maybe Cambria.
You know what? A little bit of a pet peeve, Roger Goodell. You're gonna be announcing these players'
names. Maybe learn a few of them. I always hate when he comes up and he's
got to announce somebody's name and he totally butchers it. Well, does he do that a lot?
Oh, he's done it a bunch of times. He can also just have like an earpiece in
where someone says, right before,
they just say, hey, Rog, this is how you say it.
Well, they do, at the draft, before you go on,
they literally give you the card.
Sometimes on the card, it's spelled phonetically,
so you can, like, they'll tell you
right before you go on stage,
as someone who announced the draft pick, humblebrag,
I don't know how he's
doing the league right now that's a side but it's they tell you how the
pronunciation right before you would you know who'd you announce oh it's a good
question okay Alex right very good defensive end Cleveland Brown 2022
draft did you guys giving you a hard one they give you Alex right yeah did you
guys know that the Cam Ward played the drums
in his church band with his mom who played the piano?
Ooh, I like that.
Did you know that Cam Ward's father is a fuel buyer
for a nuclear power plant?
Wow.
Which may explain his freakish athletic ability.
Yeah, he's a mutant.
He's a part of the Marvel universe.
He might be.
Finally, I've been waiting for Marvel and the NFL
to do a collab.
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Ooh. Yeah.
That sounds spicy.
It does sound spicy.
I've had enough spicy food being here.
I have played at SafeHawk. Okay, when you go to different cities around
You know the country the world whatever do you try to their local delicacies? Do you go with comfort food?
Do you go with what you like? What is your strategy on food? Yeah, I do my own thing man
I stick I stick to the basics
Luckily, I have the palette of a nine-year-old
so Luckily I have the pallet of a nine-year-old. So I'll get down with chicken tenders.
And also Nashville hot.
I eat that around the country.
So.
Okay.
I'm glad you brought that up because
that's kind of the situation that I'm in
is that I have been sick of gastroenteritis.
We went out and they were like,
you need to have Nashville hot wings.
And I was like, I don't know about this
because I'm not doing well
So last night when everybody went out and had that I got a grilled cheese and was mocked by everyone because of it
Yeah, here I am today
The trade details, okay
The Jaguars receive a 20-25 second overall pick the 20-25 fourth round pick a 20-25 second overall pick, the 20-25 fourth round pick, the 20-25 sixth round pick.
The Browns receive the fifth overall pick,
20-25 second and fourth round picks,
the 20-26 first round pick.
Wow, they got a two and a one.
That's a haul.
To move back three spots.
To move back three spots,
you're still gonna get a fantastic player.
And the Browns moved up in the fourth.
Wow. They got a in the fourth. Wow.
They got a fifth, fourth, sixth.
And they got a two, an extra two, to move back three spots.
Do you think we're gonna see-
Good job, Andrew Berry.
You think we're gonna see a lot of movement tonight?
So coming up to today, it was slow,
but it kind of felt like the calm before the storm.
And here we are, the number two pick,
and we already have movement.
So it was a big deal that coming into today,
this was the first time ever that every team
owned their number one pick in the draft.
Nobody had traded it.
There was no leftovers from last year.
Like already next year, that's out the window.
Because now the Browns don't have a first round pick.
With Cam off the board. Jaguround pick with cam off the board Jaguars with cam off the board
the door the door is the next best we then think the next best quarterback I
mean there's back and forth should door we thought might be going number three
to the giant they've moved away from that it seems as though the pick is in
for the Jaguars yes yeah trying to act like right now Travis Hunter and his
mom are trying to act like he's not picked Yeah, Travis Travis Hunter spoiler alert is going to the Jaguars. Yeah, I knew it Wow. I
Mean, it's a new regime. He's trying not to tip the pic. I don't like that celebrate. I
Mean we're gonna see him get up in a second and what it were to pretend
He's gonna go to the bathroom
He had the biggest smile on his face two seconds ago and as soon as they have red light
was on on the camera we pretended not to see it the Jaguars front office is
celebrating
Travis Hunter on the big screen behind him for sure
if you're a Jaguars fan you have to love this right you have a new GM you have a
new coach and now you have them making the biggest move for the draft so far
tonight last year's draft the biggest thing that we saw in the first round that wasn't predictable was Michael Pennings
Yes going this I think is gonna be one of the stories of the draft of that
I don't feel like it's such a big deal. I'm trying to sell it just I appreciate you
So does the NFL whoa you jumped up and you got the guy who played?
1,400 snaps last year.
Smart.
And they need cornerback and receiver help.
I think that's why they care so much is because I don't think Travis Hunter plays both ways
at a lot of organizations.
The Jaguars need so much that he will probably get repped both ways there.
Well, so that's what we were talking about before the show,
is I was asking you, so if the Browns do take Travis Hunter,
how much quarterback do you think he's gonna actually play?
And now we know, he's not gonna play any quarterback
for the Browns.
He's not gonna play any receiver.
I never felt like the Browns were truly gonna make that move
at wide out for Travis Hunter,
but here's the biggest issue
with Travis Hunter playing both ways
Throughout the season throughout the offseason any given day
You're on the field practicing for give or take two hours a day
Okay, the days are roughly nine to ten hours long. So for eight hours you are in meetings or lifting
with your unit
typically in the morning when the offense lifts,
the defense meets and then the defense goes and meets
and then the offense lifts at that same time.
So just by the 24 hours in a day,
it's gonna be hard for Travis Hunter
to be in those meetings.
If he is predominantly gonna be a cornerback,
it's gonna be hard for him
to truly take on wide receiver in a way where he's getting like the brunt of the offensive snaps.
Just by virtue of there's not enough meeting time in a day for him to get prepared for both on a
week-to-week basis. Can I throw out a bold prediction? Yes. Another one. Okay, so the Browns have traded down to number five to the Jaguars.
Obviously, could this be an indication that they like Shador
and they think that Shador will still be there at five
because they know the Giants were not really feeling Shador.
They felt safe enough to go get their quarterback and get assets.
Maybe, but that would still even be high for Shador
from what I've been hearing.
I mean.
What if we trade down a second time
and collected more assets?
The Browns double trading down.
The Browns double trading down
would be a great story.
He's done that multiple drafts.
Do the Browns now take Ashton Gentry at five
like we thought the Jaguars might?
I don't hate that idea I mean I don't hate that idea they're gonna have to run the ball they're gonna
have to run the ball Travis Hunter does not take the NFL serious no is that a
bowl prediction this feels like he's just he's a transfer portal to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Are you saying he doesn't love football?
No, he loves football.
Because that's a hot topic right now.
We'll get into that later.
I think I love Travis Hunter.
He's easy to love.
Yeah.
He's easy to love.
Travis Hunter's energy is what I wish in my deep dark dreams that I had in terms of energy
and happiness and joy in the world.
But instead I'm just
this jaded 38 year old man. He's a very optimistic kid. He just seems like he attacks life with
such a level of optimism that life is going to suck out of you at one point, kid. Enjoy
it though. That's a good, I'm glad. This took a very sad day. It's life, man., kinda bummed. Yeah.
Alright y'all, the Super Bowl is in the rearview mirror. The draft has come and gone.
So now what?
Now it's time to get the crew together.
You keep the fandom energy going, it doesn't stop when the Super Bowl is gone.
We gather.
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Mikey, do you have any draft rates so far?
We have the predictable number one and number two picks just not to the team.
Is that is that kind of
Times in a Titans have an a so far. Oh
Yeah, let me go the Jaguars have an a so far. It'd be bad if it two picks we had a C or something
All right, let's let's you should we just should we do cam ward how they should feel or should we just skip that one?
Cuz we knew it all I think we could we could do it. All right, if you're a Jaguars fan
You should feel
Kind of meh
You should feel kind of meh and here's why
You put a lot of eggs in that basket. You gave up your first and second round pick
You gave up your first and second round pick this year
and you gave up your first round pick next year and you're putting a lot into one player
when you had a lot of issues on that team.
Wait, they gave up a first round pick for next year?
Next year.
The Jaguars traded a one, two, and four this year
and a one next year.
Yeah, but you got a receiver and a corner.
So you basically traded for two players.
Well, according to Hawk, you might not have both.
You have a little bit of one and a lot of another.
Well, that's the scary part.
It's because they're gonna like,
you're gonna get 65% of them on both ends.
You're gonna get the second round version of them
as a corner and a second round version of them
as a receiver.
If you don't have a real plan, like it's just not on the surface oh he can play both ways we're
gonna do it I trust the Jaguars to have a plan
that's good that's good you know what this is actually a huge room for Tony
Vasili they're gonna be hired that made deal. Guy makes the Hall of Fame all of a sudden balls just starts making all these crazy moves.
Tony Vasili juke my brother out in the NFL game. Really? Or he tackled my brother
in the open field that's what it was. My brother scooped the fumble that he
should have took for a touchdown one-on-one with Tony Vasili and Tony
just corralled him in the open field. Most impressive thing I've seen of him in all of the blinding.
That's just impressive.
Any talk about the New York Giants possibly trading out is now squashed.
They have made their pick.
The New York Giants have made a pick at three.
We're assuming it's Abdul Carter here.
Bold prediction, Abdul Carter.
You guys are missing the meaning of the term bold.
Really? Really?
Yeah.
I mean, I'll tell you this,
in our AI, USA Today AI mock drafts.
Are we spot on right now?
No, Microsoft Co-Pilot had a dual Carter going second,
and Meta AI had a dual Carter going second.
Scrock and Chat GBT so far have been undefeated.
What does this mean for AI?
I don't know.
I think we're gonna settle right now which AI is the best.
We're gonna settle it tonight
by how close they were in their mock.
Can I give you a spoiler alert?
Because I'm not sure we're gonna get this far.
Just a preview of how AI does things.
ChatGBT, you know who they had at the 21st pick in the draft. So I guess the Steelers 21st pick in the draft
can't work Jalen Milro I
Have not seen Jalen Barrow be a first-round pick anywhere
I wouldn't I wouldn't have him as a first-round pick, but I do believe there will be teams that get enamored with his physical traits.
And it's not crazy to see teams reach for quarterbacks.
The most important positions in all of professional sports.
Stun that out there.
All right.
All right, the Giants pick is in.
The Giants pick is in.
It's Abdul Carter.
Not surprising. A little bit superfluous considering they have Kevin Dibbido and Brian Burns already playing that edge rush spot but I mean Abdul Carter is he
just a talent you can't pass up? Yeah I mean especially when you're in a
conference with Jalen Hurts, Jaden Daniels, and Say What
You Want About Dag Prescott.
Those are three really good quarterbacks.
So for an organization that is not positioned to have one of those guys, you better have
a damn good unit who can get after those guys.
Adding Abdul Carter to that unit you talked about helps them raise their
profile a little bit in that division. It's also a great pick for him to fall
to the Giants section number three because a month and a half ago people
were saying this most talented guy in the drafts could be the number one pick
and then all of a sudden he shows up at the combine medical test show that he has
an issue and then it becomes a question of, wait does he need to have surgery? Is he
gonna plummet in the draft? They said, no, he's fine.
And here he goes, number three, no surgery needed,
at least at the moment.
So, see how it works out for the Giants?
They still need a quarterback.
Still need one, and maybe he can play both ways.
Maybe he can play a little quarterback.
He can throw the ball?
Is this a...
As good as anybody they have.
Is this a make or break season for Brian Dayball?
That's the tough part right because I think Brian Dayball is in that situation
like you know you almost want to reset you know like if he doesn't they're
basically gonna line it up to where his ousting is going to be the next person
who comes in with the quarterback. What does he have to do this year to where his ousting is going to be the next person who comes in with the quarterback. What does he have to do this year to keep his job? Well here's the thing.
Playoffs. So see that's you're a what a three or four win team to have a
playoff mandate like you might as well have just just gotten it over with and
got rid of them. If you're telling me as an owner and I wouldn't put it past John
Maher to be this guy. If you're telling me we have to go from the third overall pick
To playoffs or you're fired. You might as well just fire him
Yeah, I mean
That sounds like indecision
And that's the last thing you want from the head of an organization
Is he tied to Joe Shane or can this be a situation where they get rid of Joe Shane and then Dave all survives at least
For a season because right now you have a situation when Russell Wilson you're
starting quarterback, James Winston is your backup. Neither one of them as fun
as James Winston might be are going to be the quarterback that is your
quarterback of the future but also you see here with the number three pick they
elected not to go after quarterback they already have quarterback depth so they
don't really need one but if your job is on the line
and that's what you need, you can reach and get one.
They're not really giving Dayball anything to work with here
in terms of having an incredible increase
from three wins to playoffs this year.
On paper, are the Giants better today?
I mean, I know Abdul Carter is that good,
but he's gonna be replacing guys that are already that good
in the rotation.
You're gonna go from Brian Burns to Abdul Carter,
and it's like, okay, we can still do
what we already could do.
We can just do it more.
Yeah, but imagine life without it, though.
And if you don't feel great about the quarterbacks
in that situation, again, you don't reach for it,
and I'm sure the organization has already aligned on that., okay, we don't feel great about the quarterback options
outside of Camp Ward and also Brian Dabo I'm sure is not gonna hitch his wagon
there either too early on. The case for Brian Dabo, if I'm his agent and they go
into this season, they don't have success and they only end up with three, four,
or five wins, it's, oh well we had Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston.
Like that's what my argument is going to be
to organization, to ownership, to the media.
Like what could you really expect?
It's gonna be hard to argue that.
So I feel like that's where he's going to kinda hit you.
And then if you have success, it points to what?
I'm a great head coach.
Look what I was able to do with Russell Wilson
and Jameis Winston.
You gave me Daniel Jones, Russell Wilson,
and Jameis Winston.
That's it.
And then you expect playoffs.
Give me a real quarterback and watch what I do
and that will buy him the time that he needs.
So he's not in a terrible position.
And I just think that the things around Brian Dayball
for me,
it's more of locker room stuff that you heard or you saw
when things went bad and that's typically a symptom of,
again, a coach that doesn't have a great feel
for his locker room.
So I am consulting with my AI mock drafts
and I told you before that ChatGBT had Jalen Milroy
at 21 because I had that highlighted.
I buried the lead. I forgot to tell you that GroT had Jalen Milroy at 21 because I had that highlighted. I buried the lead.
I forgot to tell you that Grok had Jalen Milroy
at the number six pick in the NFL draft.
They had Shador Sanders going third.
That didn't happen and they have Abdul Carter
falling to 15.
So right now I would say that Grok
is having the roughest night.
What is AI like, what are they doing?
Listen man, you're the one that knows about
this stuff. Not me. With your virtual reality and your video games and technologies. It's
feeding its model with mock drafts from from gen pop. That's the issue. It's got to get
down to the experts because no expert has Abdul Carter going 15. Well, not only that it's also feeding from
History and if you look at Rees in history
We saw what six quarterbacks go five quarterbacks go in the top 12 picks last year and it's going oh
So quarterback must be the thing
Which it is
But there has to be a certain level of talent. Yeah
But there has to be a certain level of talent. Yeah.
Come on, Gronk.
So, we are now in a commercial break on television.
The Patriots pick is in.
When they come back, we are expecting, based on sources, that they will be taking Will Campbell.
I'm going to tell you right now, this is going to start a runner of offensive linemen.
You think it starts now?
I think it's going gonna start right now.
I think we're gonna see four,
I think we're gonna see three in the next four picks.
Maybe four in the next four.
Is that your bold prediction for the day?
No, that is not my bold prediction.
Because that wouldn't be bold.
So who goes next, Calvin Banks to the browns?
How about Membu? How about Memboo?
How about Memboo?
How about him?
I don't mind Memboo.
Dildye has him going eight to Carolina.
You like Memboo better than you like Banks, huh?
I think I do.
I think Banks is a fast riser,
mostly because I think the Raiders love him, which is why I think he's gonna go six
I'm so curious and who the Browns are gonna go with I
Think it is either receiver
Ted McMillan asked in general on I
Mean the brownie back they need a wider receiver, they need a tackle, they need a quarterback.
I think the Browns want Arch Manning.
Just getting an extra first round pick next year.
Keep trading down to next year.
But here's the problem, Manning's don't come out early.
Manning stay in school.
He's also making so much money in school.
Yeah, that too.
But it'll be what, his third year this year?
Yeah, it'll be his first year as a starter.
He would be coming out next year early if he came out.
But after one year of starting, he had some games that he did kind of like mop up duty.
But he did pretty good. No up duty, but this is pretty good
He know you see you are gonna do games cuz cuz you was got her. Yeah, he played he prayed pretty good
the thing about the manning that I I love is that I
Mean, they don't give a damn about the transfer poor like they're like, you know, you're gonna just develop
You'll play one year and you will be a top five pick because we've kind of done a lot of that work for you. You don't have to say, oh I need to see him more. Listen Hawk, one of
my favorite, you'll learn this in a few picks, I am a big Jets fan. Okay. And one
of the worst stories as a Jets fan is that Peyton Manning was finished his
junior year and the Jets had the number one overall pick and
Peyton Manning the story goes Peyton Manning called Drew Bledsoe and said
what's it like playing quarterback for Bill Parcells who was the coach of the
Jets at the time and after that conversation was over Peyton Manning was
going I'm going back to school he would rather go back to school and I think
about what could have been yeah I mean, think of how we could have possibly
ruined Peyton Manning as a Jedi.
That would have been crazy.
We could have ruined him.
It would have been so fun.
We could have turned Peyton Manning into Ryan Lee,
which would have been amazing for your organization.
I was going to ask you this with the Jaguars and Travis Hunter.
Do you believe that there are franchises
that will just simply ruin a player?
Where you see a player and you're like, oh man, I really wish my team would get this
player.
But if they end up on my team, they would not be the player.
Here's one that I always wanted to happen, but I was glad that wasn't.
So down here Miami Dolphins fan, I wanted the Dolphins to draft T.Y.
Hilton.
He was on the board.
I'm like, oh, T.Y.
Hilton and the Dolphins would be sick.
However, if he was down there with whoever the quarterback
was at the time, he's not there with Andrew Luck,
who was drafted the same year as him,
and probably would not have been T.Y. Hilton.
Yeah, I don't think you're wrong.
But I do think-
Say it.
I think there's certain players-
Ruin my life, say it, Hawk.
That like, still will be them.
Okay.
T.Y. Hilton is one of those guys.
Okay.
Like, I played against, or coached against T against you. I hit as a receiver coach for Toledo
And I was like, holy hell wait
Were you the coach when if I you played the Rockets was it the game thousand and eight little Caesar's pizza bowl hot and ready?
I think that was after he was a young player. Okay, whenever I think they played him twice
You know, they're like the home in, over like a three or four year period.
Yeah, and he was just taking bubble screens yard,
like 60 yards out to the crib.
You know the story of how he ended up at FIU?
So he, I think it was down to FIU in West Virginia,
maybe like one other school.
And what he did was, or Louisville I think also,
what he did was, he put his kid on a bed and whatever hat the kid crawled towards was the school that he
ended up going to. So that's how T.Y. Hilton ended up at FIU. Is he a South
Florida native? Yeah he's from down there. What part? I don't know man. Come on, you gotta know.
I can talk about Abdul Carter or T.Y. Hilton's house or whatever. Travis Hunter is from Boynton Beach.
He reps Georgia but he lived in Boynton Beach and played football there too. He Carter's UI Hilton's house or whatever Travis hunters from Boyton Beach
He reps Georgia, but he lived in Boyton Beach and played football there too. He was like 14
Which is significant. Yeah now having lived in South Florida myself and seeing the youth football
It tracks so he's from Miami Springs Miami Springs. Yeah got it
Hey, will Campbell to the Patriots will Campbell they got themselves a left tackle that's a very Patriots like pick the uh the Browns are on the clock now things are about I know I think we got a
couple Browns fans in here I saw him walk by Browns fans in here Jim Brown
jerseys they're drunk if I know Browns fans they're standing literally in the
front of the bar oh there's one Brown's fan.
There's one right there. Hi Brown's fan, how are you?
So because our first offensive lineman was taking I have Taylor's ex-roommate the finance guys
Rating of Will Campbell if you would like it. Yeah, does he have him rated first?
Okay, so he has him graded as the number one offensive lineman out there so he was right about that. This is Ian of course. Ian says there's a lot to talk
about his arm. This arm length that. You know who else had short arm length but was
the most feared animal to ever walk the entire earth? The T-Rex. Will T-Rex
Campbell prove all the doubters of arm length if he's just wrong and will be a perennial
pro-baller throughout his career
You can't teach heart and love of the game of football
Campbell is the exact guy you want protecting your QB for years to come. This is the worst overall guy for a
Okay, I don't think he's wrong T Rex Campbell
Campbell a little I don't hate that I like I like where his head went.
I like how he got there.
My good friend Joe Thomas who was pretty good at playing offensive tackle.
Oh, you dropped this name real quick.
Thank you.
Yeah, we don't have to look at the Leroy sound by here, but that would have been a good moment
for it.
But he also talked about the fact that Will Campbell had short arms and he said it doesn't matter
because the way that they measure offensive linemen arms is like from the shoulder blade
to the middle finger and he's like, well, what if you just have a really long middle
finger, which happens and like a long arm to a short arm is like the difference of an
inch or an inch and a half.
And he's like, you don't block defensive linemen with your arms, you block them with your feet, your arms just leverage them.
And I said, look man, I don't know what the hell
you're talking about, but I believe you
because you're a lot better at playing offense and tackle
than I am at pretty much anything else in my life.
Yeah, I mean, do we think, are the Patriots
in win now mode considering all the money they spent?
Now they have their quarterback on the on the rookie contract
They got him now left side protector
What is when now mode me as opposed to what I got with now?
Yeah, yeah, but I mean like how long have the Patriots been losing now in the organization their win now
As a fan as as football analysts analysts you know me and you total
football analyst yeah do we think they can win now um I think they can I think
Mike Ray could take that seven seed I think Mike Bray was a difference maker
yeah I don't think Mike Bray knows anything other than win now I think like
he's the kind of person who is you know stick to his own convictions again we're down here in
Tennessee they know better than anyone I'm such a huge Mike Grable fan and I
think the moves that they've made is less about the organization saying all
right now's the time and more about Grable being like this is what the hell
we need otherwise I'm not taking this a man. I'm not very much a man. I'm not very much a man.
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Wow. I love Mason Graham.
He's one of my favorite players in the draft.
I still think this is a surprise pick.
Mason Graham.
All right, let me pull my Mason Graham scouting report here.
I think Mason Graham is, his floor is a starter,
a good starter.
Which, I mean, if that's what you're drafting,
fifth overall, that's pretty good.
In Mel Kuyper and Field Jade's mock draft from last week,
they had Mason Graham going number five.
Really?
The number eight pick now owned by the Carolina Panthers
is being shocked.
Is being, yeah, they don't own the pick, but.
I feel like this Mason Graham pick is a, like.
It's a little bit of a head scratcher
considering where he's going.
But at the same time, I mean, that's, it's a good player.
He's the kind of guy that might be able to feast
in the inside with Miles Garrett.
Yeah, I mean, that's why I like it because it is like,
I don't know, they were staring
at Abdul Carter in the face,
and obviously they're like, hey,
we have just paid the best edge rusher in the NFL
the most money ever, so let's get him some more help inside.
Mason Graham very versatile, he can play a little bit
on the edge if necessary as well. I don't know, it's just
interesting. But I didn't expect them to go defensive linemen here. The interesting question
is who's throwing the ball, who's catching the ball, and who's running the ball in Cleveland?
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Well, the Raiders did not waste much time. No, their pick is already in.
Their pick is already in.
And most mock drafts had this as right in magic marker from the moment it goes.
And then everybody was like, well, wait a minute, maybe not.
Maybe they like Calvin Banks.
No, they went and they took Ashton Gentry.
Everybody knows Pete Carroll loves to run the ball.
And Ashton Gentry is, see this is one of my problems
with what we do during lying season
with all the mock drafts and stuff.
I saw some analysts say Ashton Gentry's ceiling
is Walter Payton and his floor is
LaDani and Tomlinson and I'm like what kind of pressure is that to put on somebody that his floor is a
first ballot gold jack. Please name that person. Oh no it was I can't find it. Just make up a name.
It was Billy Gill. Walter Payton floor It was Billy Gill. Floor's LaDani & Tomlinson.
That's a real quote.
That is a real quote.
I need to know who that is.
So I can.
I'm going to find it.
Ashton Gentey owns a puddle poodle named Coco.
So that's his dog, Coco.
Just a fun fact.
I like that.
Coco's a good name.
Yeah, it's a good name.
It's a good name.
Ceiling Sweetness. The Floor LaDani and Thomas. I mean, okay, this is, that's a meme account,
no? I don't know. It might be. Did you just get NFL sent out? I could have, but I saw
it and I got upset. Yeah. And then, and then I saw a bunch of people like killing it like they should
I'll tell you that makes me feel a little bit better about that
Tell you who's not happy about this my guy where he most or who went to the Raiders not a good day for him
So far nice. Okay. No
So how old is where he most there?
He's like 33, 32.
So me and Raheem played together.
And I haven't played in the NFL for like seven years.
Yeah.
He was a practice squad running back.
And he fumbled every time he touched the ball.
And I'm like, oh, man, this guy's never going to make it.
It's a rough night.
I hope this is taking a nice turn for him,
because so far it's been a rough night.
And now we're just crapping on him.
The good thing about Raheem Mostad
is he stands the test of time, which you don't typically see from running backs that are like him, which are built for speed.
So I actually think it was probably a little much to expect that Rohim Moster was going
to take on the brunt of the carries for the Las Vegas Raiders, but this gives him a really
like specific role that he could be really good at, which is to change and pace back to the rookie that I'm sure the Raiders are hoping to build around
hey Billy you and Hawk were talking earlier about how hot it was yeah and I
was like no I'm not that hot yeah now I'm sweating I see you sweating a little bit. You wanna know why? Why? Jets are on the clock. Yeah Jets are on the clock.
The Jets are on the clock and I'm scared. I scared man. Are you I am this is my Super Bowl. We talked about this
This is as close as I get to the Super Bowl who do that's a jet fan. That's that good
Who do I want or who they gonna take? All right, who do you want? I want either Warren or Membo
That's who I want. He also has guys that he told us he's gonna walk out
There is a few names show if they draft.
There is a few names that if they get talked right here, I'm walking out.
How do we, before we move on too far to the Jets, how do we feel about Tom Brady, who
now has his hands on everything, apparently with the Raiders first pick.
Taking a running back.
Yeah.
A guy who made his living with Kevin Falk.
They had a damn good run game when they did out.
They did but they didn't have a top six running back top six pick running back.
Yeah, they had a running game.
He's a special player though.
Yeah, you know, he's a he's a outlier.
So Jarvis Green Ellis.
The law firm.
Yeah, also one god, Danny woodhead
My favorite Jarvis Green Ellis fun fact is he is Birdman's nephew
from cash money
And like the two people who started cash money records Birdman and Slim
His slim son isn't Lil Wayne also his nephew
Who's Birdman? Yeah
Yeah Isn't Lil Wayne also his nephew? Who? Birdman? Yeah. Yeah
Okay, that's why I call him the Birdman Jr.
Yeah, Jarvis Green Ellis would FaceTime Lil Wayne from like practice. Okay, and he would answer
In like a brotherly way not like in a let me show you how my famous friends are
Just calling and checking. You know what I said FaceTime
And I don't think FaceTime was a thing then in 2012.
No, I think you made that story up.
Yeah.
None of that happened.
It was definitely a call.
Yeah, that's fine.
Let's be giving a shout to Stu Gutz.
So I'm looking up some pros and cons on Ashton Gentile.
Here's a quote.
Quote, works his tail off in the weight room
and can squat a small house.
Just a small one.
OK.
A small one. Now what do we call a small house? Just a small one. Okay. A small one.
Now what do we call a small house?
A tiny home.
I would say less than a thousand square feet.
Like a bungalow?
No.
A tiny home.
Like a one, one, ooh.
Ooh.
Which you probably can squat a tiny home.
The pick is in for the Jets.
Yeah.
Good news for some, bad news for others. I'm gonna stay. I'm okay with
the pick. I think it's a good pick. We're good. Okay. The Jets have selected right tackle
out of Missouri, Armand Memboo. I'm okay with that. I think they're definitely going to
need to run the ball and he solidifies an offensive line. I got a little, and Hawk, you can speak to this.
I have a little bit of a problem with,
this is the third offensive tackle
the Jets have taken in five years in the first round.
Why do you have a problem with that?
Because at some point you need to hit.
At some point you need to develop somebody.
At some, so the Jets starting offensive line
is a high priced free agent,
three first round picks, and a top second round pick.
I'm all for investing in the offensive line, but at some point you need to develop somebody.
You're not going to have sustained success if you can't have a third, fourth, fifth round
pick develop into anybody who can do anything on your team.
And that's my problem.
I don't think you're wrong.
I think that's the just problem.
I think that they like go all in.
Sure.
And you know, they're trying to hit the easy button
so many times, and there are always so many holes
to feel that it's always the easiest thing
is to always say, go get a tackle.
Let me read you the scouting report on Memby.
He aligns that right tackle with below average size forward and offensive tackle in the NFL. Super athletic. His movement immediately
stands out with excellent footwork quickness, body control, but average play strength. In
the run game, he has a powerful punch, he latches on to defenders, and forces at the
point of attack, but he has average hand placement. He can get too wide and cause him to not
fully sustain his blocks.
Are you trying to make me leave?
I'm just saying, bro.
Are you trying to make me leave?
I'm just reading the scouting report.
I just wanna give you information.
Well, you know what?
I don't care about the scouting report you just read.
You know who I wanna hear?
Who? Yes.
I wanna hear Ian, what's his name?
Ian, Office. I wanna hear his scouting report office. I want to hear Ian's scouting report.
So, I did read Ian's scouting report to decide whether or not we should read the entire thing again after the T-Rex arms.
If you want, I can read you the entire thing.
I actually like the T-Rex arms, Scott.
And if I recall, Ian is a jet fan, isn't he?
He is a jet fan.
He had him going as the second offensive lineman.
So he had him as the number two ranked offensive lineman.
He said the prototypical right tackle
straight out of the football lab.
OK.
Where is that headquartered?
That's a good question.
My basement.
You live above the football lab.
Yes.
I rent it out.
I don't see the football lab in Connecticut.
I got to be honest with you.
Do you think it's the nuclear plant that Kam Ward's dad works at?
Maybe. Is that the football lab? I mean he might have like a competing
football lab where he's like doing like flubber or something right?
First experiments on his son. So he's out of the football lab. He didn't allow a
sack all season at daunting SEC conference at 2024. He might not necessarily have a blue chip trait
That's uh to his game, but he's a smooth operator. There's very few weaknesses you can find on his tape
He gave him overall an a-minus this move. All right, so I think he knew the Jets were gonna take him
He did have a whole section just in case the Jets took him. Yeah, so he believed the Jets. Okay. Yeah, I don't mind it. I
Think it's a safe pick. I think right now the draft so far has been a very safe draft
Yeah, I think I think this is a safe draft class. I don't think this is the draft class where
Outside of cam ward. I don't think there's a bunch of guys that you're going to go get.
Like there's no wide receiver that you're like, Oh,
this guy is a matchup nightmare.
Ted McMillan has a lot of strikes against him.
He's probably the top wide receiver.
A lot of strikes.
Cause I've seen a lot of plays off.
I've seen a not top end speed.
I've seen, you know, he's big.
He reminds me of Drake London.
He's big, he can make contested catches.
And Drake London's a great player.
Is that so bad?
Absolutely not.
He's a great player.
But it's also not a, it's also not a sexy pick.
It's not a sexy pick.
It's not Jamar Chase where it's like,
well we just got a guy who's gonna break records
at the bank and all that.
We got a safe wide receiver,
a guy who's gonna catch the ball when it's near him.
And that sucks for him,
because he's a really good player.
I agree.
It's like, the Drake London comp is good,
and in its full form, it's Mike Evans,
the best receiver you've never seen on a commercial,
which is like a travesty,
because he'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer,
or at least he should be.
And he still probably has another five really good years
in him, which is crazy to think about.
We were talking, we spoke to Mel Kuyper this week,
and Mel said, nobody's happy in the first round
with a single anymore.
They're not even happy with a double.
It's a triple or a home run or a grand slam. That's the only thing people want in the first round with a single anymore. They're not even happy with a double. It's a triple or a home run or a grand slam.
That's the only thing people want in the first round.
And I feel like Ted McMillan is a solid double.
And nobody wants that.
Yeah.
I don't think you're wrong.
We were talking a little while ago,
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The Jets pick is in.
We know who the Jets are gonna take.
We're still waiting for Gadal to officially announce
a little bit of the making.
We're so far ahead of the draft right now.
Yeah, crazy.
Oh well.
Here's another thing that's interesting.
The Panthers are on the clock,
and we heard moments ago that the Panthers
were shopping this pick.
So do the Panthers keep this pick,
or are they able to successfully move it?
Who would trade up at this point?
I, I. Because there was talk about the fact able to successfully move it. Who would trade up at this point?
Because there was talk about the fact that the Broncos were really interested in Genti if he was still available. So were the Bears. He's gone. So the Bears are not gonna trade up for him, obviously.
He's off the board. The Broncos don't need to trade up for Genti because he's off the board.
I don't know that teams are gonna be reaching for Shador just yet if you want a quarterback out there so who is someone that player of teams would be
trading on floor probably a tackle there's there is a fall off in this
tackle class according to most of the talking heads most of the evaluators
there is a fall off after seven I? Yeah. Some people have the guy out of Minnesota in that area too, but there is a big fall
off.
So if you want a tackle, you have to get him now.
There's still two really good pass-rushers from Georgia.
I expect the Carolina Panthers who have
made the pick Billy. The Panthers have made the pick. I expect the Panthers to
to probably take one of the Georgia pass rushers here and after that I mean you
still have two of the highest rated players in the draft. The only problem is
they both play tight end. A position that's not listed as a premium position.
I wouldn't mind a tight end here, especially, you know,
given Bryce Young's kind of resurgence.
Sure.
You know?
Short quarterbacks, you give them a run game,
and you give them a tight end.
Yep.
That's like a,
like a, you know,
101 easy target for your quarterback. Well the pick is in for the Panthers and I was wrong.
That was a quick turn around.
Which is common.
The Panthers went with the double.
They're taking Tet McMillan.
Really?
Which is, I mean, you just said you give your
quarterback, I mean, Tet Macmillan is as close to a tight end as a Rod Percival. He's a big
guy. He's a guy that you don't have to be completely accurate with the throw. You just
have to kind of get it near him. Yes. Yes. Incredible. Incredible ball skills. Very big target.
Not the quickest, but he plays his butt off.
The quite polar opposite of the way I play.
Oh.
You know, I like to drop a ball once every four times.
He didn't play your butt off.
Let you know, I did play my butt off.
We all know you did.
I did, I did.
But look, Ted McMillan, I like him.
He is very versatile, even at his size.
He plays inside, he plays outside.
Ball skills literally off the charts.
So anything he lacks in top line speed,
you kind of give him a pass for
because the ball in his facility,
contested catches, even coming out of breaks.
Again, you're not gonna look at him and be like,
oh man, that feels like Tyree Kill for obvious reasons.
But in his plays, when you look at his explosive plays,
he's playing his tail off.
So if it's 40 times as a four, five, two, four, five, five,
four, four, eight, had him at different clocks,
you're getting that full amount on film.
There's so many guys that I see that are like high four,
threes, low four, fours, and you cut the film off
and they're not
Separating at that rate with Ted McMillan you're getting his full speed and you're getting everything else that comes with it
He's I still think they have so many holes on that team past catcher was one
I thought they but I mean they can't get to the quarterback at all. I mean, are we gonna see, are we gonna see
the slide that we saw last year from Edge Rushers?
Because I think we went to like 16th last year
before we saw the first defensive player go last year.
I mean, look, when I look at the Panthers,
obviously they're picking where they're picking
for a reason.
And I think with that organization, even if their defense is trash this year and they
can't get to the quarterback, if their quarterback that they have plays well, they're going to
look at that like if they won the damn Super Bowl.
So let me ask you, is Bryce Young good?
I mean, what we saw the first few years was not good.
And then he got benched and he came back
and he looked like a different player.
He did.
I think Bryce Young is good.
I think he's talented.
Is this a make it or break it year for him?
Now they're getting him weapons too.
I don't think it's a make it or break it year.
I feel like that they've seen enough to say, okay.
I mean, obviously if he comes out, it's just terrible.
You're gonna always, this is what we do. We analyze and overanalyzed quarterback by the play by the drive by the hat by the wins and losses
Which is really not fair, but even still like I think from what we saw what I saw from from Bryce Young a year ago
Was him kind of let go man like there's a there's a perfection element especially for a kid like him five-star
Has this pick at the litter of the school he wants to go to, wins the Heisman National Championship, first
overall pick like he is groomed to be in the position he's in even if he's not
for a typical size. Him getting bent was the best thing that could have happened
to him because he just kind of went through it it was like yo to hell with
it and then you could see his real potential. Well here's a thing that works against him
is that David Tepper is somewhere
between impulsive and insane.
Yeah.
So, everything that you're saying makes perfect sense
but you have no idea what this guy's gonna do
one day to the next.
And I like those traits in my edge rushes.
Impulsive or insane?
Yeah.
Okay.
In between there, I like my edge rushes that
Ownership is the most insane player you played against the guy where you're like insane. Yes the guy that you were
You might be a little scared of him like he didn't realize this was a game and a job like he took this
Way too seriously. I think everybody takes it serious I had a coach that would tell us you need to go out here like lives are at stake because they are is what he
would tell us before he went on the field. I'm like that's not reassuring.
No, you could actually die out there. So he's like I want you to take it that
serious because he would basically tell us like just so you know they're trying to kill you and he would be being so serious but I played in the AFC North at a time when there was Ray Lewis
Terrell Suggs James Harrison James Harrison Paula Malu like okay so in So a lot of them. Got it. On our team we had a guy by the name of Vontez Berfick.
You may have heard of him.
And he was top of the insanity list
because he wouldn't even turn it off in practice.
So the things you saw him do on Sundays,
we would practice against him and think,
yo, I don't know what the hell this dude's gonna do.
And that is a tough place to be in when you're like,
I don't know what you're gonna do
because you don't know what you're gonna do.
Is that a switch that he had just on and off the field?
That's just how he lives his life?
No, that was him on the field, but it wasn't like,
he didn't make the delineation between practice and a game.
Uh-huh.
You know, he could turn it off in the locker room,
he could turn it off in life,
but a football field was a football field to him.
It didn't matter whose jerseys were on the other end.
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Saints are on the clock.
Yeah. Who's playing quarterback it's called. No. Saints are on the clock. Yeah.
Who's playing quarterback for him?
Derek Carr.
Derek Carr has got a shoulder injury, might not play.
All year.
He might be out for the year on a $60-something million cap hit.
Gotta love it, man.
Good for Derek Carr.
Could this be Shadoor?
Damn good.
Could this be Shadoor?
It could be.
I don't think it is now you know
Oh so that McMillan had been throwing with Bryce Young already in Los Angeles
Oh does Bryce Young have the clout in the organization to be like hey that's
my guy go get him yeah well maybe I think so or you think somebody said hey
Bryce get on a plane go to LA we want you thrown with this guy yeah I think so or you think somebody said hey Bryce get on a plane go to LA
We want you throwing with this guy. Yeah, I think I think it was like
Who do you like
Who do you like out of these receivers and he's like, yo, I think Ted McMillan is
Is the guy so it might not be the deciding vote
But okay, it's significant to get that from your quarterback
But it's significant to get that from your quarterback.
So the Saints aren't gonna take Shador. Okay.
No.
But are they gonna take Jackson Dart?
No.
No, they're not taking him either.
The slide officially starts for Shador.
This, are we calling this the official slide?
This is the official slide.
He's already.
Look at a team that needs a quarterback
And it's like oh, this is one of the teams we've heard that could make sense
one of the first ones
The slide is officially started how far is the slide?
Is he at the draft he is not
Tell it man, that's not great. I think I'm actually of the mindset that
don't avoid the camera when the slide happens. You gotta lean into it. You're
playing to the team. Put it on your shoulder. You let the heartstrings tug. I
have a bold prediction. I had a side out of mine. Go ahead. On where Shador is gonna go. Okay. Is it bold? It is bold. All right
the Los Angeles Rams
That's bold. The Los Angeles Rams at 26
I think they I think they could take him with the understanding of Stafford is
not long for this league. Yeah, and
we have one of the
best offensive minds in the game.
Los Angeles Rams.
That's my bold prediction.
Meanwhile, the Saints are taking Kelvin Banks, offensive tackle, Texas.
I mean, good for them.
I can tell you what.
Why don't we get excited about offensive lineman in the draft man. It's not sexy
I know it's not
The best line I ever heard about an offensive tackle was after the Jets took one
He said hopefully you never hear my name again
Because if you ever hear my name as an offensive tackle again chances are I did something wrong so true
That was the brick of Shaw Ferguson.
I have a ranking here for Calvin Banks Jr. from Ian Taylor's roommate.
I need to know how to feel about it. Saints fans need to know how to feel about it.
So here's what Ian says. First he calls him Calvin Banks Jr. which isn't a good sign.
That is not a good start.
He has him ranked sixth so he does not have him being the third one taken off the board and this may be
Wrong name rank six may be kind of an indicator of where this is going
He says quote a lot of scouts and so-called experts will have banks as one of the top rated
O-line in the draft quite frankly. I just don't see it
While banks does have all the traits you want in an offensive tackle, the tape does not
lie.
Digging into the details, you will find foot speed and hand placement issues which will
be exposed and lead to more penalties at the NFL level.
Overall grade C minus.
And the C stands for certified bust.
I thought it was going to be C for Calvin even though he doesn't spell it that way either.
Yeah, C for Calvin would have been a good one.
That's harsh.
He's not wrong.
But I think- He's certainly not right though.
He's in finance so.
That's a finance guy Ian.
I will say- How excited is he that we're talking about
him?
I think Banks transitions to offensive guard.
Okay.
And I think that's where he lives.
Because a lot of the issues that you see on film from him are because he's a little out
of position.
He's a little small for off of the tackle, not like the greatest size, not like... But
even the fact that he has that versatility, I think is one of the reasons why the Saints
got him at the moment, at this pace that they did.
Because I do think he could be an elite guard.
And I think he'll be a service of war, but to tackle.
They just lost Ryan Ramchak, he retired
after a year of not being able to play with knee injuries.
This to me feels like
kind of what the Jets are doing,
in that we know we don't have our
quarterback, we know he's not on the roster, we know he's not in this draft
class, so what we're gonna do is when the one comes along next year he's gonna
come into a better situation. Yeah, yep. And you know what there's no there's
nothing wrong with that. Build the world. It is, it's dawning on me when we go over Ian's analysis
that he has an issue with Kelvin Banks Jr.'s arm length,
but with Will Campbell, he was calling him a T-Rex
and saying that he was going to be a superstar
regardless of his arm length.
And therein lies the bias of football analysis here.
So is he like Spinosaurus?
Does he not, like, what are we,
who is Ian's favorite college football team? That's a good question. I can look into that if you'd like. He's a Jets fan
He doesn't like college. Yeah, probably or he likes Notre Dame
The Bears have made their pick. Oh, the pick is in. And the Bears
Throw a little bit of a curveball here. Okay
They are going with the tight end, but it's not Tyler Warren
Okay, they are going with the tight end but it's not Tyler Warren like everybody thought it would be as the first tight end Taking the Bears are taking Colston Loveland at a Michigan boy
Which is I love the idea of Ben Johnson being in the lab with two tight ends
that are
Different in how they play in cold Komet and now Colston Loveland.
You have Roma Dunze, you have DJ Moore.
I mean, Caleb Williams is going to be running out of any type of excuse
between the rebuild offensive line,
they did all that work in free agency,
and now you've got him multiple weapons that can come from anywhere on the field.
I mean, Caleb Williams, you
might be, you might have a little bit of pressure on you.
I mean, I think he already had pressure on him, but I think you're absolutely right.
It's like you add somebody like Loveland, and we just talked about it with Bryce Young.
Like I have no idea what he's saying.
Me neither.
Cause I have headphones on.
We got some great fan interaction going here.
Tyler Warren.
Now you're saying, now they're saying Tyler Warren?
Now they're saying Tyler.
I'm getting bad information.
We got correction here from the audience.
Wow.
Wow.
It's actually Tyler Warren.
You had one job
Okay
Okay now this is our producer is telling this it's Colston Loveland fan is telling us it's Tyler Warren Don't mom and now we have to wait it's all right. Let's go off on stage together. Yeah two of my favorites
It seems as though they definitely took a tight end though. We're just not sure which I don't think I'm sure which tight end
Colson Loveland by the way fun fact he raised animals as a child and competed in the rodeo
He often missed times at school. I got a brand cabs
Wow. Yeah. Wow, that is that is crazy
Now I just need to figure out which tight end this actually is.
That's an important piece of this show.
I tend to feel like I'm going on your side, man.
Yeah?
I feel like you had it right.
Well, I would love to take all the credit, and I will, but I'm getting that information
from our producer over there.
I like how you're getting out from underneath it in case it's underneath it in case it's wrong. I like what you did man.
That's why you're a pro. Exactly. You get out from underneath it you put it on the next guy just in case.
But if it's right, I don't know what's talking. The win's not worth it. I agree. Just so everyone knows this
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Thank you, Mike Funtas, for saying that
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Also, if you're here, we're gonna be giving away this jersey
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Who are the Bears picking?
I love this expense.
I can't wait to find out myself.
And let's also just put out there that
taking information from a random fan and then putting it up there with our producers sure is a bold choice It is like just but I love this. I mean he was he was so sure he had to interrupt everything to make sure we knew
I completely lost my I thought he was a producer the way he got my attention
He was very confident and that's what life is about being that confident. Yeah, that's what I want for my quarterback
I kind of hope that he does that after every pick it just tells us that we're wrong because we're in an effort to beat
The delay we're jumping the announcement of the picks as we see them. Yeah, and if we're wrong, it would be incredible
Let's see, okay
Man I do love Loveland though.
No pun intended.
I have his film pulled up here on PFF.
I'm watching him out of the slot, just natural hands.
He looks more like a receiver when he runs around.
Match up nightmare, like he really is the lightning to cold Comet's thunder for Caleb
Williams.
If indeed, he is the pick.
I think that's really the difference between him and
Tyler Warren.
I feel like Tyler Warren is much more of an inline tight end.
Yeah.
Now he's still a matchup nightmare in the passing game,
but I think Tyler Warren is a little bit better in the
running, the run game and the blocking.
He feels a little redundant to Colton Mett
if you go with Tyler Warren.
Yep. But, you know, know again looking at Loveland again he moves like a receiver man to man
third downs like I won't dare to call him Travis Kelce but you're getting that kind
of a match up with him because he can switch his hips he can drop his weight he can get
in and out of breaks and he's good after the catch. Whereas Tyler Warren is much more Rob Gronkowski.
Not to, you know, set too high a bar for these two titans.
Let's just keep doing it, bro.
In the spirit of Ashton Jenseny being either sweetness
or a Daniel Thomas, let's just start giving everybody
ridiculous ceiling and floors.
I'm all for that, bro.
I was wondering what all the boos were then I realized the draft is in
Green Bay in Chicago. Colston Loveland. Colston Loveland. All right. Shout out to our
fan producer. All right so our producer is just taking it all in stride. He was
absolutely right. It was absolutely right.
It was lovely. I don't know why we ever questioned it. And he's already on to the next pick.
So for whatever happens the rest of this night, whoever came up here and told us it was Warren,
they're automatically out of the jersey running. Is that okay?
I was actually going to say the opposite. Sir, feel free to interrupt every single big announcement and tell us whatever
So now you get two tickets is the Jersey raffle Wow is San Francisco 49ers didn't let a minute go by
Before they made their pick Cal Shanahan and that means he got his guy the pick is in at least according to our producer
I don't know about our fan producer
But it is Mikael Williams
Which is a little bit surprising because Javon Walker's still on the board and most people had him ranked as the number two
edge rusher after Abdul Carter
You know, that's what I love about Kyle Shanahan because he sees things his way. Yeah, like he like as
traditionally always gone with the guys
that he values at a certain space. And a lot of times it feels like a reach on draft day,
but now we're at a space where it's like, oh okay, yeah,
no, if he says he's the next best edge,
all the rankings will change.
This is an A plus pick.
This is a guy that a lot of people didn't know about,
but we all did.
You know what?
Building your team the way only you see it is job security.
Because if they were ever to get rid of Kyle Shanahan,
the next coach is gonna come in and be like,
what the hell is this?
What am I supposed to do with these pieces?
Exactly.
Genius.
It's job security.
That's smart.
That's playing chess.
Mikael Williams, scouting report.
All right.
Who is he?
He aligns at edge with various techniques.
Not a whole lot of production in his last season at Jordan,
but the physical traits are there.
Very good length.
Elite strength and explosiveness as an athlete,
which Kyle Shanahan loves.
He loves guys that look very twitchy on film. In the pass game average get off but outstanding speed to power
with a very good motor. Overall better in the run than in the pass. A 4-3 scheme
fit with in hand in the dirt needs to expand his pass rushing ability at the
next level. He still rides the project. Average starter with some weaknesses to his game,
but a solid upside as a starter.
Here's something that I've kind of noticed
in all the mock drafts and stuff I'm reading.
We always talk about Georgia defenders,
and for as many great ones as they are,
they're usually not on the edge.
There's a lot of good interior defensive linemen
and a lot of good linebackers, off-ball linebackers, and
then some in the secondary, but like the edge rushers don't always live up to the
hype because of, I mean, when you're rushing next to Jaylen Carter, of
course there's gonna be a lane for you. You can't get double-teamed.
So it's interesting to see how two Georgia pass rushers are likely to go in this top
15-20, wherever Javon Walker goes.
They don't always have the success in the NFL that you think they will.
I'm trying to pull up his sacks.
I want to get a look at what we're looking at with Michael Williams.
Because he said he's not that great in the past, in the past Russian department.
He's better against Iran.
And I'm just trying to think defensively for the 49ers.
Are sacks in college kind of like touchdowns where it's a fun stat, it's a sexy stat, but
is it the end all or are you more looking at pressures? For him it was not a fun stat, it's a sexy stat, but is it the end all, or are you more looking at pressures?
For him it was not a sexy stat,
he had 14 career sacks, four and a half,
four and a half and five, yeah, he didn't have a ton.
Yeah, so I think, I mean, I think pressures are important.
I think when you're scouting college players,
like the really good ones, production is more of like a check box, right?
Like I'm looking at what I see.
I'm looking at your speed.
I'm seeing your explosiveness.
I'm seeing your hands.
I'm seeing all these like traits.
And I want the production to line up with what I'm seeing.
And if not, I need an explanation of why
you don't have 15 sacks at Georgia.
And if it's because you're playing against,
playing with 10 other NFL players, that checks out.
You know, if it's because you came, you know,
from an athlete who developed at this stage,
that checks out.
So, but I do like to see even my college guys,
like I want my receivers to be able to score touchdowns.
Sure.
I want you to be able to have explosive plays
at whatever the hell level you're playing at. And I want my edge rushers to be able to score touchdowns. Sure. I want you to be able to have explosive plays at whatever the hell level you're playing at.
And I want my edge rushers to be able to get
to the damn quarterback because to me,
if nothing else, that says you care about that.
Because of the depth of rotation in Georgia,
he only averaged 33 and a half defensive snaps per game.
So he didn't get a ton.
Also here in his strengths,
he has arms the length of an anaconda okay yeah that felt
a little freaky but I get what you're going I get I get what you're saying
because the anaconda don't have arms I'm just reporting out what he has if he has
arms like they're on the arms that's a problem
his arms are actually shorter than a t-rex I think he has arms the length of
anaconda bodies anaconda are okay I gotonda arms. Okay, I got it, all right.
But I'll look into it further.
Please. I'll get back to you
on this one. All right.
I would love a little bit more clarity
around that analogy.
Also, he's compared to JPP, which is good.
JPP is kind of the fourth of July.
No, that's not high enough.
We have to go better than that.
JPP was damn good.
He was, but I mean, mean I want how about OC?
JPP could have been better than OC. Could have been. But was he? Yeah. But accidents
happen. Hey the Dallas Cowboys are on the clock. What this is a good one I have a lot of I have no idea what they're gonna do man I
Interior deep as a blind who's the top interior deep as a blind right now on the board
Probably out of Ole Miss is rising up the board. I
Mean do they take Walter Nohler in Hampton do they take Walter Nolery and Hampton? Do they take the running back?
Do they take do they take Matthew Golden?
Do they take the next best wide receiver available? I like Golden. Do they take Javon Walker?
They might lose Micah Parsons.
I think all of the they're not losing Micah Parsons, bro.
You can only pay so many guys. There's no way. I don't think out of those three Mike is the one
they let walk. Mike is the only one who doesn't have the contract. Right but I
think you offload one before you just decide not to give Michael one. I agree, but at the same time,
what Jerry Jones is gonna do is a different story.
Looking at the board here,
we're in the Shador slide at the moment.
Where do you see it going?
Oh, we're officially in slide mode here.
Because Cowboys, Dolphins, Colts, Falcons,
Cardinals, Bengals,
we have quarterbacks on these teams.
We're going to have to have someone trade up to get him.
But why would you need to trade up?
Because you know none of them are going to take him.
Well, because you want to get ahead of a team like Pittsburgh.
We're just now announcing the 49ers pick one.
Oh, yeah, I announced that 20 minutes ago.
Sorry.
We may be announcing these picks a little bit too early. Yeah, we might.'s that 20 minutes ago. Sorry. We may be better. I'm seeing these pigs a little bit too early
Yeah, we but we find especially when we had a situation where we were doubting if our pick was correct or not
Yeah, the fantasy. I wasn't doubting it
My yeah, give us when you get the pick you give yourself a four-minute count before you give it to us
And then we'll give ourselves a three-minute count before we give it to the string
Because even in the delay, bro, we got to be at least 11 minutes ahead
alright
Dallas Cowboys, ah
Don't know what's wrong with them man. They've got
Like they've got the quarterback. They used to have the offensive line. I'm not sure they have it anymore
They had the wide receiver. They had the threat.
They've got a good tight end.
They had really good pieces on defense,
but they just can't get out of their own way.
And Dak getting hurt, and then I don't know what
the Cowboys need right here.
I couldn't be less excited about the Cowboys.
What's interesting, new head coach.
I feel like they backed into that higher.
What's interesting is the 49ers, a team we generally
think knows what they're doing, they made their pick
within the first minute.
The Cowboys have 45 seconds left on the clock at this point.
The pick is in.
They got it in.
And they just got it in under the wire.
Man, Jerry Jones waits till the last minute to do everything.
He does. That is his job.
He waits till the last minute to do everything.
Yeah, I think he knows what he wants to do,
but I think the majority of the time is spent
everybody trying to convince him otherwise.
Him saying no. For him to ultimately land on what he already said he was going to do
all right we have the pick we're picking we're gonna hold it we're gonna hold it I
don't want to I'm gonna I'm ooh I'm calling this play how about this you want
to play a quick game of anonymous sources and you can read us what anonymous sources are set of their pick that we
Haven't announced yet. It doesn't have to be a player
We haven't announced no no have it be this pick and then the fans can guess who it is that the pick is
I'm not gonna lie. I do not have an
Anonymous source for this player. Okay, this player was not on the list of
anonymous source for this player. Okay. This player was not on the list of guys to do an anonymous source. Do you have an anonymous source for Mike L. Williams? Of course I do.
Give us the anonymous source for Mike L. Williams. Yeah, but that ruins the game because
you know who it is. I thought it was we were picking the team. No, no, no, no, no, no.
The anonymous, so that was how we played during the year. Do you want me to give
you, if you want I can give you, yes, to give you, if you want I can give you,
yes, go back up.
If you want I can give you here a way
that his play style was described,
and then a quote of himself on his play style.
Do it.
So this player that was picked by the Cowboys,
play style has been described as.
It's hot, it's hot.
I gotta come out there and change jackets
or leave a second.
Yeah. It's ridiculous. All gotta come out there and change jackets or leave. A second. It's ridiculous.
Alright, the pick is in.
The Los Cowboys select Tyler Booker, guard from Alabama.
Tyler Booker, guard from Alabama.
His play has been described as legal assault and he said, quote,
I make guys not love football anymore.
So what player is this about?
This is about him.
Tyler Booker, he said.
Yeah, yeah.
About himself.
This is from Ian.
No, no, this is from, you know.
Oh, the Beast.
This is from the Beast, yeah.
OK.
He makes players not love football.
And Ian's nickname also the Beast?
No.
Ian's a finance guy.
What would he be a Beast?
I don't know.
What would his nickname be?
I've never met him.
OK.
I don't know.
He seems kind of odd, if I'm going to be honest with you.
On his spare time, he ranks offensive lineman.
Booker might be our most excited draft pick of the night.
Yeah.
Ooh, is he going to pick?
You talk about a guy that's happy to be in the NFL.
Is he going to pick up Gadel when he hugs him?
Oh, it's the bear hug, for sure.
We're headed towards the bear hug and lift.
My man, those aren't cleats.
There's going to be elevation off the ground, I think,
here on Roger Gadel. OK man, those aren't cleats. There's gonna be elevation off the ground, I think, here on Roger Goodell.
Okay.
Oh Lyman with swag.
You always gotta be careful of the oh Lyman
who have received the swag.
Because they can go either way.
They're either gonna be the best off the Lyman
or they're gonna be terrible.
Or they're still the ones that are upset
they don't get to touch the ball.
All right right well. Put your phone in a drink there? I did. I did. Luckily. A Smirnoff?
The presenter of Smirnoff's World's Number One bodybuilding sugar sponsor. Was that a home game punch?
A Smirnoff mule or a pina picante? That's crazy. I do like the Smirnoff. Oh I missed the hug. Did he lift up?
It's a lot going on right here, man
It's all my fault. Yeah start to finish that put cuz not only did I spill the drink as I took my jacket off
Whether or not he is bear hugged good day. Oh, yeah. I also made the call to not tip the pick too early
Yeah, I made you wait it too. I waited too long
So that's why not everybody could be having a pretty terrible ten minutes having a pretty terrible 10 minutes here, I gotta be honest with you.
I got my chance as the interim play caller and it was bad.
Me and the guys who said that Warren was getting drafted over Loveland, we're having a similar
grade right now.
You're Andy Dalton.
We're gonna hand it back.
We're gonna hand it back to our starter quarterback.
I'm not elite.
One thing we will never do in my presence is slander
Andy Dalton. Never okay never okay but you were the guy that stepped in to the finest school in
South Florida thanks to Andy Dalton so we will not. I don't all right and I
wouldn't. Good I'm just kidding by the way. If you want my man I don't care you can slander him how you want.
If you want Ian's thoughts on don't care you can slander my if you if you want
Ian's thoughts on Tyler Booker
He said it's impossible
It's almost impossible to label him as an underrated when you're a top two years or your two-year starter and a team captain in Alabama
However Booker is just that not only will he bulldoze guys off the line
He will insert his dominance at the second level as well
I like out of my mind Book, who is above average run blocking skill
and raw physical strength,
is the top interior offensive lineman of the class
and will be a pro bowl and maybe even all pro guard
down the road.
Overall grade B plus from Ian.
The finance guy.
He's the best and it's only a B plus.
Interesting.
Wow.
Interesting Ian.
You gotta work hard to get your grades from Ian.
Yeah. We've had guys all over the board with Ian. We've had C's, we've had A's,
we've had A minuses. He's definitely drippy and he's got a lot of pins on it on the suit
jacket. Yeah he had a couple turtles on there as well. Yeah. His dad looks like Shaq. Okay.
But he's happy.
I always love when the dad looks like he can suit up too.
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
Like you get them both.
Absolutely.
Just in case, you get a backup card as well.
So Billy, Dolphins are on the clock.
Yeah, I don't care.
We all know how die hard you are.
Yeah, you know me.
Big Dolph fan over here.
Are you a Dolphins fan?
I mean, yeah.
Where are we at with the dolphins?
That's not looking good.
Why?
President of the two of fans.
What is the grade right now of Mike McDaniel?
The Mike McDaniel grade at the moment is incomplete,
but he's on the hot seat. Is he incomplete, but he's on the hot seat.
Is he?
Yeah, he's on the hot seat.
Chris Greer, it's better to be on the hot seat too early than too late.
You know what I mean?
If we put him on the hot seat a season too late, that means things have really gone off
the handles here.
Mike McDaniel, cute, quirky guy for two seasons.
However, we need to start seeing results to this quirkiness.
He's this genius, offensive innovation,
no one can do things like he can,
except they figure out his offensive schematics
and all of that very quickly,
and it hasn't been as cute as it was the first year round.
So we need to start seeing a little bit of results.
They went to playoffs last year, right?
No, they missed by a game.
They missed by a game because guess who they lost to?
The three-win Tennessee Titans.
I think Dolphins fans right now are most upset with Chris Greer, the general manager, still
being the general manager.
Because you kind of thought there needs to be a change.
We don't want to get rid of Mike McDaniel yet.
Our guy is probably Chris Greer because he's been here for a while.
I think they're the longest team without winning a
playoff game. It's been like 20 years since they've won a playoff game. They've
made it to the playoffs but they haven't won a game. Do you want me to get in there? I also
tell you, I'll tell you this too. My guy Big Mac that he runs the
parking garage at the Elcer wears a top hat. I don't know if you've ever
seen Big Mac downstairs. I've seen Big Mac Big Mac every day tells me
Big draft coming up. So finally me and Big Mac are gonna have some closure. He asked me every day
What do you think Chris Greer is gonna do? I'm like, I don't know Big Mac
But Big Mac doesn't want Chris Greer there either. What's your confidence level? We'll see my confidence level with the Dolphins
Here's another no in this big
Not high because it's Chris Greer making the big here's another thing. Here's an issue in Hawk
I'm wondering what you think and this is a hot take. I think it's Chris Greer making the pick. Here's another thing, here's an issue in Hawk, I'm wondering what you think.
And this is a hot take.
I think it's time to move on from Tyree Kill.
Tyree Kill's another one that you need to get rid of him
too early as opposed to too late.
They probably, if they would've gotten legitimate offers
on him last year, gotten rid of him then,
because you could've gotten more from him.
You know what this feels like?
What?
You know when you're in a relationship and the girl tells you
like hey I don't like the look of your face and when I'm around you it makes me
sick to my stomach? Yeah. And then you go you know what? I've heard that all too
often hog. I think we should see other people. Yeah no shit. Didn't Tyrekeel
already say he didn't want to be there? Like three times. And then the next day he's like, no, no, I'm good, I'm good.
It's like, dude, this wasn't even taken out of context.
It's you on video saying this.
Which is very relationship-like.
You know what I'm saying?
So yeah, you saying that it's time to warm up Tyree Kill, isn't that bold?
I get what you were saying now.
We don't really have a good grasp on what bold is.
Yeah. Because that's not a hot take. Listen, man. I get what you were saying now. Yeah, we don't really have a good grasp on what bold is Yeah, because that's not a hot take
Listen, man. I'm scarred. I'm hurt. I get it. It's that's relationships, bro. That is
That is relationships. All right, so
We can go now. Oh you want me to say it go guy. The Dolphins pick is in
Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle Michigan, the second Michigan defensive
tackle taken so far in this.
Billy, what do you think?
I don't know.
I like a sexy pick.
I don't know if this is the sexy pick.
This is not a sexy pick.
No it's not.
But this is a good pick.
He weighed close to 300 pounds in middle school
So big boy, yeah who didn't he he I believe is another one who often had to show yeah He often had to show his birth certificate because they weren't sure about his age
And there were questions as to whether or not he would make the
250 pound weight limit when he was playing youth football. Do we know that though, like,
I would say 85% of NFL players
who play on the offensive line
all had their birth certificates checked?
Yeah.
Youth football.
We don't gotta say that.
I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to the beast.
Yeah.
And sometimes guys who do, you know,
watch along shows had to bring their birth certificate
when they played because people questioned them as well because they might have been
a little big and a little big boned for their age.
And that's a part of the process.
My little brother played football at Pitt.
He was 6'3", 325 pounds.
And he's been taller than me since I was four.
And he's two years younger than me.
So I've lived all this stuff.
He was a big birth certificate check guy.
It was a part of the process.
He was at an early age.
Just had it in the wallet?
You just keep it on you, bro.
Here, I already know what you're thinking
Check it out. Mike McDaniels is happy. It's happy about the pick
They don't have Chris Greer on the screen. I would imagine he's happy about the pick
Do you think that they picked the right Graham from Michigan because there's two defensive tackles. Oh, it's grant not Graham
Mason Graham already went. Yeah Mason Graham way
Not Graham. I apologize.
Mason Graham already went.
Yeah, Mason Graham went.
Kenneth Grant now goes.
I do like a lineman that weighs close to 350 pounds.
I'm not gonna lie.
They have on here, you gotta keep track of him
because in the off season,
his weight will go up from 330 to close to 350.
Lineman, get it up to 400.
I mean, maybe not 400.
Absolutely not.
Why not?
Well, shape, number one, your ability to be able to sustain
and play a whole game.
There's also a bunch of injury concerns that come with that.
The speed at which you move at 350 to 400
is completely different.
And more and most importantly, him going from 330 to 400
would cost him,
I mean, anywhere in the range of $300,000 to $500,000 in fines.
Because he's the kind of guy that for every pound that you show up over the
limit, we're finding the hell out of you.
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The Colts pick is in. I'm not even going to wait for Fuentes to tell me.
It's going to be Tyler Warren.
This was one of those match made in heaven.
They've been hoping he'd fall to them.
Because of Colston Loveland going to the Bears, he did.
He fell to them. I think Colston Loveland going to the Bears, he did, he fell to them.
And I think this is one of those,
we're gonna find out about Anthony Richardson soon.
Yeah, I don't know if this tells me about Anthony Richardson.
No, but we're gonna take away his,
we're gonna take away as many of the excuses as we can.
That's what they're going for.
He's in a tough spot.
Meaning like, I don't know how many more excuses he would even have.
They didn't draft anybody.
Why'd they give up on him so quickly? I mean he had the injuries, but it just
it seems like they've decided he's not their guy while also not replacing him.
I think it's, I mean Daniel Jones went there.
He's so fresh and also I mean it's something you never typically see
from a quarterback draft the way it was that but also you've never seen a
quarterback tap his head in the middle of a game and say hey I need a breather
you know. Would you have been upset? I wouldn't have been upset as much as I would have been like hey
hey come here bro. You can't do that. You don't, like, that's not a thing, ever.
You know, and that's where I, I don't know,
in some ways empathize with him.
I think a lot of the people in the locker room did too,
cause they're just like, he clearly is so inexperienced
that he has no idea what the hell he like.
He went to the podium so happy to tell everyone
he was tired, I'm like, that took all the, you know.
Everybody thought that he was, did he think he was gonna get a that like, that took all the, you know. Everybody thought that he was,
did he think he was gonna get an atta boy?
Way to work hard, and they're like, no.
I told me it wasn't malicious, like,
oh, you really have no idea
that you weren't supposed to do that.
That's it, that's just you plead ignorance there.
I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that.
Even lie, just lie.
That's my coaching point.
If you're the Indianapolis Colts and
Lovelin goes first, but you get everyone sees everyone different. Is that scary you when you're like, oh, I didn't expect to get this guy
And he's here now. Um, what do they know?
Are you a what-do-they-know kind of guy? Yeah, of course. What do they know that I'm missing here?
Are you a like, oh that like what am I missing here kind of guy?
100%.
Always, always.
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
why is he still here?
If I'm told how good he is, why is he still here?
If I was told there's no way he makes it to me,
do you get cold feet?
Exactly.
I think it was just a scheme fit
with Colston Loveland versus Tyler Warren.
I think Colt Comet already does what Tyler Warren does, maybe not to the same extent.
But they're in the same family.
But they're in the same family.
They're both really good inline tight ends.
Whereas Colton Loveland's more of a, as you said, Travis Kelce, gonna find space kind
of guy. Yeah. I think this is, I think he's the best pass catcher available or offensive weapon available
I would say for the Colts at this point which is, and mind you, they still have Jonathan
Taylor.
They still need to be able to run the ball and Tyler Warren's gonna help him there too. Yeah I think for his ceiling he's Anthony Gonzalez, Tony Gonzalez and his floor is...
Say Rob Garkowski.
Say Rob Garkowski.
No I won't give him Rob.
I'll give him Jason Whitten.
Anthony Gonzalez for sure is what
Goodell said when he was a draft.
Yes, absolutely.
100%.
Not to be confused with the slot receiver
at Ohio State, who also played for the Colts
and ended his career early because of concussions,
but then became, I believe, a senator.
I was gonna say, he became a politician.
I don't remember exactly what level.
Crazy turn there. Now, Jay Fe't remember exactly what level crazy turn there now
Jay feely is running in Arizona
What pick would you have to be or like where would you have to be projected to decide to stay home versus being there in person?
At this stage I feel like they bring too many guys
Yeah, I probably would have been a home guy no matter what Joe Thomas went fishing before it was cool
I've always respected him for that I probably would have been a home guy no matter what. Joe Thomas went fishing before it was cool.
I've always respected him for that.
Yeah, I like the video of the players
getting the phone call as opposed to the ones
in the green room.
Yeah.
I was like when they put the phone down
and they say it and then the whole family erupts.
Like nobody's dressed to the nines,
so you don't mind jumping up and down a little bit.
Yeah, I like when they're home on the couch.
Would you be like big family and friends gathering
with us, 800 people in the house,
or would you be like, oh, it's just four of us?
I'm hoping in my video, I don't recognize,
like my wedding, I don't recognize
half the people in that room.
That's crazy.
You don't know half the people that wear your wedding?
How long ago did you get married?
I don't know, you think I knew my wife's coworkers?
I didn't have you have a cat on my list
My wife's third cousins
No, I didn't know those people that's valid
They asked my dad a story coming into the show and I was like, oh I have none cuz I didn't get drafted
And that might have been that's a drafts drama. That's a story, you know
So but also my brother was drafted 43rd overall.
And I was in the room and we had cameras,
like local news back then, 1998.
But I mean, there was not a more euphoric moment
probably I could remember in my life
than watching my brother get drafted.
We all felt like we got to the league
and it was like such a big deal.
So to your point, I think I would rather see
the players in their own environment
because I want to judge them a little bit.
I want to see the girlfriends too excited.
I want to see the dynamic between the mom and the aunts
and how everyone thinks they're rich all of a sudden.
I want to see the offensive or defensive lineman
on a couch that you know is just holding on for dear life.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I want to see.
I want to see.
I want to see the couch just bowed in.
Yes.
I want to see the agent who is so out of place in the environment that he's in.
The only one in the suit.
Yeah, like this is the first time he's ever been in a small town in Alabama.
And then if you look close, and you got to catch the right guy on the right video
But if you look close when it when a parent is upset with you draft
Like oh, I did not want you to go there. I do not want to move to
Play like that. I can't say I can't because I'll get everybody or from there
Sometimes I get confusing because it all could it also could be like draft a drama
Upset like yeah, I'm pissed That gets confusing because it also could be like draft day drama upset.
Like I'm pissed, your uncle is here, and we haven't heard from this mother in 10 years.
Or all of a sudden your dad is coming around.
He's looking at the rookie wage scale for your draft slot.
Exactly.
Circle of trust here.
Circle of trust.
Question.
Nobody can hear us.
You guys, when they go to the family to see it
Do you ever see like you see like the partner whatever we all play the game while they make it right sure
Yeah, single one of us like will this couple make it and if so
How many seasons are we gonna make it? Yeah, I think we're gonna make it. I can remember some good ones, man
Russell Wilson was one that's the most famous one right the most famous one, right? Everyone was like, oh, this isn't going to last.
This isn't.
Yeah.
And they were right.
And you got CD-LAM grabbing phones.
That was a big one.
I don't think they made it.
No, I don't think they made it.
What do you think the hit rate is on making it?
It has to be very low right nowadays?
It's probably even lower. Yeah with NIL because they're already coming in with yeah coming in millionaires already, bro
Yeah, what the whole of die?
With an IEL. Yeah, I think in IEL killed love of his love. Okay
Falcons are in the last minute. I guess they're not taking a quarterback this year, but
They're in the last minute before they have to make a pick.
Looking at Shador for some reason.
Draft code?
There's no way they didn't tell everyone to wear black, right?
Everybody in there had black on.
You think that they set up a dress code or is this coincidence?
That had to be a dress code, man. I kind or is this coincidence that had to be a dress code man I kind of like it I had to be a dress code I liked
it as well but I wonder what the message is like why tell everyone in your draft
party to wear all black unless you expect it to be drafted by the Raiders
Atlanta Falcons wide receiver edge rus edge rusher, linebacker.
Huh.
Some team needs there?
Rick is in.
Can we get some AI, AI mock draft?
Okay, let's see.
For who the Falcons select?
AI.
Well, Grock said that they would take a dual-carter, but I don't think that that's going to happen.
Okay, Grock.
Yeah. Mike Green, according to chat GBT.
Okay.
Jalen Walker and...
Mike Green's interesting.
Donovan Jackson.
Mike Green's a guy that...
Was he so good because of where he played or was he just that good?
Mike Green also who Phil Yates had in his mock draft as well.
McShea has them taking James Pierce.
Mike Green seems to be a popular one.
A lot of people have Mike Green.
But what they didn't count on
when they had him taking Mike Green
is most of them had Jaylen Walker going earlier,
but he was still on the board here.
And I think the Falcons,
they go and they take Jalen Walker right now.
That's a slide.
That is a prediction. That wasn't a prediction, that's what's happening.
I was going to say.
In case that didn't come across as clear.
Bold, bold prediction there.
Meta AI nailed that one. They had them being taken there.
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I love that Fuentes is checking.
Come here, Fuentes.
Bring that over here.
I don't trust you. All he's done is give us the perfect pics.
I don't like that you're saying that he's a liar because he is not.
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That would have, and you don't get to choose
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Yeah, we went the safer route.
Either it's mounted, I mean, both scenarios, a real chance you never get to choose which one you get. Yeah, we went the safer route. Either it's mountain.
I mean, both scenarios, there's a real chance
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All right, Jalen Walker, do we have a scouting report on him?
All right, let's see.
I have his game film pulled up.
He's only had four sacks last season.
Is that right?
Is that the Georgia effect?
Also, for front offices picking Georgia players,
do you think they look at it as a positive
that you didn't have to play as much
because it's less wear and tear on your body?
That's interesting.
I'd be worried about did you succeed
because of all the talent around you
or did you succeed because you were that talented?
Right.
And it's, I guess that's why you hired around you or did you succeed because you were that talented? Right. And... That's valid.
It's...
I guess that's why you hire the best scouts. That's why you trust your scouts because
they're supposed to see what fans don't. Fans see four sacks and they say he's
not that good he only got four sacks but scouts see different things.
Yeah.
And that's why that's why you and I watch as much film as we do that's why we got a crunch
to take that's why we do it look at this play real quick I see read the scouting
report I want you to watch Walker off the edge here
yeah so you follow that you're reading well Well, you were supposed to be reading this. You were reading.
Well, no, I was just going to give you his sacks.
We had six and a half sacks last year, five the year before, one the year before that.
He called the audible and you didn't get it.
He said before you read it.
He called run and you blocked and passed.
Team player.
By the way, was that against Calvin Banks?
That was against Calvin Banks.
There you go.
Anyway, we're showing a sack where he sidestepped Calvin banks
He beats the guard to get a sack Mary athletic player wonder Ian had him rank so special play
Ian had such a great scouting reporter on over there
Billy is not red yet
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The Cardinals are the first in this little area
of the draft where I go, are they good?
Like, are the Cardinals good?
Because I've seen them do things where you go,
like if they can do that, they can't be stopped.
And then I see them go and do things
where I'm like, you're not good.
Is that a byproduct of Kyler Murray, though?
Is that not also the same conversation you say about?
Because I'm a big Kyler Murray fan.
I think what people want to see from him is the consistency
to say, like, you see a ceiling.
It's like, how can we raise your floor?
How can we raise, on a week-to-week basis?
We'll never get this version of Kyler Murray. Can I ask a tangent question off that?
Absolutely. Is Cam Ward tall Kyler Murray? No, he's not called that. No, no, no. Is he taller Kyler Murray?
No, he's not. I mean everybody likes to do the Patrick Mahomes comparison. I see more Kyler Murray. No way.
A lot of no, no, no, yes.
Hold on a second, I will tell you this.
In consulting the Beast, the Beast says,
with his talent and intangibles,
he projects as an NFL starter in the mold of a taller,
slower version of Kyler Murray.
Boom!
Me and the Beast.
Cardinals pick his in.
I don't think that, man.
I don't, I disagree with the Beast. Okay, Beast disagreement, sorry. Cardinal is in man I
Disagree with the beast okay beast disagreement. Sorry. That's our first beef me All right, we used yeah beef that in the hole show your birth certificate tagline
They keep giving to every office of live in over six foot four
It's let's take the AI here and see what the AI says
Let's check the AI here and see what the AI has. Let's see what the AI says.
So the AI, Microsoft co-pilot has Walter Nolan.
Should we be on trade watch at this point?
Because the Pittsburgh Steelers are in a prime position
to take Shador Sanders.
They're in a prime position.
But if somebody else wants him,
they gotta start thinking about moving up.
They gotta get there now?
Oh, someone's saying something.
Somebody's yelling no to Shador.
Everyone's yelling.
Steelers?
Okay, we got some Steelers fans over here.
Steelers fans do not want Shador Sanders.
They're holding out for Aaron Rodgers.
You guys want Aaron Rodgers?
No! Okay. What do guys want Aaron Rodgers? No! OK.
Oh.
What do you want?
What do you?
We want Doug Hodges back.
Doug Hodges?
OK, no, we're good.
I heard, and I think it was Todd McShay,
so you can't say I got God on this one,
that if Mason Rudolph were in this draft,
he'd rank us the third best quarterback. Like today, Mason Rudolph were in this draft, he'd rank us the third best quarterback.
Like today, Mason Rudolph.
Yeah, present day Mason Rudolph.
Like if you were.
Because that's not fair, right?
He's in the NFL, we can't play.
Like if you were, like their grades.
Coming out, or?
Yeah.
Walter Nolan.
How could we play that game?
Walter Nolan, defensive tackle out of Ole Miss,
going to the Cardinals.
Okay.
A good guy for our boy, Rollis.
Yeah.
We played a game a couple weeks ago,
which was if you could grant any NFL player
within their first three years,
one additional year of like COVID year eligibility,
they can go back to college to play one more season.
But it has to be in their first three years in the NFL.
Who would go back and improve their draft stock the most
and make more money because they had another shot
of being drafted in the first round?
That's a really tough game with a lot of...
You have plenty of time.
We have seven minutes before the show ends.
Take your time on that one.
In their first three years.
Let it marinate a little bit.
But they can go back to college. Listen, how about this? If you think of someone four years in, it's fine. In the first three years. Let it marinate a little bit. But they can go back to college.
Listen, how about this,
if you think of someone four years in, it's fine.
We'll let it happen.
We'll bend the rules a little bit.
They'd have to improve their draft stock,
so send in a guy like...
George Pickens.
No, you guys didn't like that pick.
That's fine.
I didn't.
What were you guys' picks?
Tell me that. Who was it. I didn't. What were you guys' picks? Tell me that.
Who was it that I picked?
I picked a defender on the Bengals, I think.
Puka Nakua.
You don't even remember his name
and you're telling me my pick's not fun?
That's crazy.
Who did you pick?
Puka?
Puka.
Puka was what, a fifth round pick?
He goes back to college now.
Brock Purdy?
Brock Purdy, yeah. Yeah now Brock Purdy Brock Purdy yeah
Brock Purdy was mentioned good one right that's an easy one okay now my money's
not good here no no no my first thing with the beast you got to get the
repercussions all right all right first three-year player who goes back and
improves their drafts so I picked Trey Hendrickson, who was drafted, I think, in 2017.
Yeah, so he was way out of this game.
I was like, 10 years in.
Me and Trey went to college together.
Apparently I forgot the rules of the game.
Trey dated my mom when I was in middle school.
Oh, wow.
What the hell do you mean, the last few years, bro?
That's crazy.
Did things end well?
Things end well? Yeah.
Okay, good.
He plays for the Bengals.
Did something right?
He was in the gonna make it video, you know, shot.
Okay, so the Bengals are on the clock now, which is my second team.
Are they gonna finally take a defensive player that like are they
gonna improve their defense at all or are they just gonna say screw it let's
just put up 50 at C. Go wide out. Why not? Let's just Joe Burrows running the
org now let's just get another wide out get him a slot. Get him an offensive
lineman. He could use one of those. All right what
do we need to tackle? I mean hey congrats to Kevin G on the stream for winning the
the other cam war jersey you have one of two in existence. Yeah you got the five
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we're gonna be doing that shortly after we go off air. We're still gonna be here
hanging out for the draft. We're gonna be off the air in a couple minutes here at
10. I'm kind of hoping Shador goes to the Steelers. I kind of want to see what
happens over there. Over the table? Yeah Yeah, I kinda wanna see what happens.
They want Duck Hodges, bro.
I mean.
So here's what you're gonna see from Shador.
He's gonna be the first quarterback to slide
to not give a damn.
Every time they go back to that video.
He didn't seem bothered.
You're not gonna get the Lamar,
you're not gonna get the Aaron Rodgers,
the Gino Smith, you're not gonna get any of that.
He's gonna be, it's gonna look like
the draft has not started yet.
I mean, I have a feeling wherever he goes,
that's where he wanted to go.
That's really where I wanted to be anyways.
The Bengals finally do go defense.
They take Shamar Stewart.
Who will be edge?
An edge rusher I mean is he gonna play instead of Hendrickson or alongside him is the question now because no way
some of the Bengals brass was talking seems like he's already on the way out
but yeah still technically on the team. Having negotiated against the Bengals ownership in Brown family, who I'm a fan
of, but yeah they are the leverage type. Meaning like yeah we were we're not
gonna get caught with our pants down, we're gonna go get an edge, and it's up
to you. We've drawn our line in the sand and we're gonna go get an edge and it's up to you. We've drawn our line in the sand
and we're gonna go get someone
just in case you don't come back.
So, and they're gonna stick to that.
I'm just looking at the rest of the draft here.
If the Steelers decide Shador is not our guy,
who else is gonna take it in this first round?
I think somebody jumps up to the end of the first.
I mean, yeah, there could be a trade where Cleveland comes in
and they take him.
Yeah.
I think you're gonna have to.
I mean, I don't know if Cleveland's going to be honest.
If the Giants, like if the Giants can trade back in
and take him.
I think Deval has been adamant that that's not his type of
Quarterback that's not he's much more in the Jackson dart category
He would rather be fail with Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston that to risk
Having to put your door in and not working. I would say this in the a few years ago
You'd say when you draft a quarterback to be your future it buys you
a year a grace period.
It buys you a year or two.
It doesn't anymore.
Owners are very quick to say, yeah we drafted the quarterback but you're not the coach for
him and you're not the GM for him so we're going to go get a brand new regime.
It very rarely works out for the for the for the quarterback when
that happens either yeah yeah I mean to your point even with the quarterbacks
they just have so much more leverage even a young guy that if they come in
and you know it used to be like hey we're evaluating this young quarterback
to see what he can be and now it's the opposite where the head coach has to
play K to the quarterback because the quarterback goes to the ownership and they say yeah I don't like
the way he does X Y & Z and I don't feel like he's using me the right way you're
gonna be fine so yeah it's absolutely a problem I agree with you yeah and it's
only gonna get worse but yeah it's a problem nonetheless.
How much do you buy into this idea that Shador just had bad interviews
and that's why he's sliding?
You think it's that or you think it's his size?
You think it's his arm?
I think it's a combination, man.
I think his personality does scare people.
I think his father scares people.
I think, you know, in this world where
people have voices, that scares people,
think about if Shidora goes to the New York Giants
and what they're doing with Brian Dayball,
they don't like it, and Deon Sanders can come out
and be like, come on man, show me a quarterback
that's ever been successful with the New York Giants
and Brian Dayball, and then it's like,
now they have the ability to shift the narrative
as much if not more
Then what's your organization to coach it? That's scary
And now they have the you know the gumption is to withstand that D on has a press conference every week every week every week
D on has molded everything and everybody's going to ask about it. That's it. He's gonna answer it
Yeah, he's not afraid to answer it. He's not gonna say hey, I'm letting that situation
He's gonna give his opinion. That's what he's known for start off that way
He'll start off with a man that's there but the worst it gets the more Dion will talk and I get it
One thing that we haven't got to yet that Mikey was hot on before was report by Jay Glazer
And it's not should door centric, but it was saying that for the first time I guess because of NIL there was executives questioning
How much questioning?
Removing players from their draft board not for injury concerns not for character concerns
But for quote didn't love football doesn't love football. I
Find that to be crazy. Yeah that on a show called God bless football. I could that to be crazy. That on a show called God Bless Football,
I could see where that would be nuts to you.
I could see where that would also not,
it would grind your gears a little bit.
Yeah.
On such a football loving show.
How many players did you play with
that you knew this guy doesn't love football?
Countless.
Can you tell right away?
Countless.
What you gotta understand is football is a a job and you might love the sport and you love what like
everything around it but like any job at some point you there are absolutely
elements that you don't love and so what I care more about is even like despite
how you feel,
can I get the same person?
Cause love can be tricky.
It's like motivation.
It's like if you grew up poor and your motivation in football
was to get to the NFL and get your mama house
or get a second contract.
Well now that that motivation is gone,
what kind of player are you?
That's a scary thing.
I actually like players who, yeah,
you might not be so up and down,
roller coaster emotionally about the game,
but I can still get the consistency
of the person that I have.
That even when the chips are high or low,
I know what I can count on on my edge,
on my receiver, on my quarterback.
So, it does work both ways.
Now, if you don't love football
and it contributes to you
not working, not spending time in it,
in this social media world where you're coming into the league
with money now because of NIL,
and we know that in football,
the person who grinds the most tape,
the person who looks for the most insights,
the person who looks for the edge
and gets their opponent the most,
is successful, and if you don't love it enough to do those kind of things, that's where it could be
like this investment isn't worth it.
I don't know if they love football, I love Smirnoff.
Damn.
I want all my players to love Smirnoff.
Yes, sir.
As a Cleveland Brown who played with Johnny Mansell,
I could say.
It was...
I love Smirnoff. I love football. I love Nashville. Thank you guys
for having us here tonight. The NFL draft will continue, the first round will continue, but we are done here for tonight.
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Thank you everybody at home on YouTube watching along. Thank you Smyrnaf for supporting us this entire season.
And thank you guys for being here.
Thanks for having us, man.
Thanks for running point, Billy.
And totally ignoring all my work on anonymous sources.
God bless football, everyone.
See you tomorrow.
We'll see what kind of controversy we run into
right over this first round of the draft.
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