The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF - Security Golic and Zapruder Film Room

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Stugotz, Billy and Mikey A give their thoughts on the Thursday Night matchup between the Commanders and Eagles as the game is ending. Mike Golic tells us what the latest CFP rankings mean for the team...s on the bubble as well as his lifelong dream to be a security guard. Simms stops by to share his thoughts on the JFK assassination, Aliens and a little bit of football. The crew is worried when K Funk doesn't show up again to make picks, but Mojo and Rallis tell us their worst losses from their college football days. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:51 Terms and conditions for our different programs and policies apply. Details at fizz.ca. Billy, what do you think the odds are of overtime right now? Very low, but we still have a chance of- There's no chance. God bless football, everybody. God bless football, StuGots. God bless football. So right now, the Eagles are up 26 to 10 But the commanders are driving and if they get a touchdown a two-point conversion and onside kick recovery
Starting point is 00:02:30 Then another touchdown another two-point conversion we can be facing Some overtime here. We're not gonna do this. Well, you never know Tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick His career record is 41 and 19. He's been to the playoffs three consecutive seasons and was a play away from winning the Super Bowl. Like the whole conversation is ludicrous. That's all I'm saying. Thanks, man. This big, big bounce back game for him. I mean, seven and three commanders.
Starting point is 00:03:16 We have a big episode today, by the way, if you're listening now. And as you can tell, we're doing this Thursday night as this game is winding down. We have Chris Sims, we have Mike Golick, we have Stu Gott's picks. We have a regular guys coming back to make their weekly picks. Carl and Mojo and the crew. And also, spoiler alert, we're going to get to the bottom of the JFK
Starting point is 00:03:38 assassination with Chris Sims. Yes. Which I know aliens and aliens, which I never thought would be a Conversation we'd have but that's coming up. And by the way only because we couldn't get Oliver Stone by the way He's still with us Yeah, what would happen to Oliver? I was asking I was not I was not don't find me I was just asking all those no finds here. Oh, oh touchdown. Here we go. Need a two-point conversion touchdown watch 26 16. Yeah, by the way God bless football is presented by smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly the smirnoff company, New York, New York
Starting point is 00:04:17 This is fun, huh? Watching the end of the game together. Yeah, that's great. Is it But doing this for 30 years and I'm up on Thursday night with you two. This is I mean seven and three versus seven and two. This was looking like it was going to be a great game and then it turned into a total crap game and now here at the end it's turning out into a maybe maybe an okay game. Come on. We're the same age. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. Of course. Right. I can't believe you're up this late. Mikey, this will be the third consecutive game that Jaden Daniels. Did he just saw that touchdown pass? Yeah. He did.
Starting point is 00:04:52 OK. So it would have been his third consecutive game. It was a garbage touchdown. It doesn't count. Third consecutive game without a touchdown. Last three games, he's thrown one. He hasn't been great. And they haven't been great.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Last three games. Yeah. No. Has the league caught up to him? Oh, wow. Can you have a sophomore slump your rookie season? Yeah, the second half of your first season. Here we go. This is the play of the game so far.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Two point conversion, 26 to 16. Uh oh, he's scrambling. He's scrambling. Oh, they got him. Oh, he's running away. Oh, no one's open. Oh, he's scrambling. He's scrambling. Oh, they got him. Oh, he's running away. Oh, oh, oh, no one's open. Oh, oh, that's a pass interference. Wow. They got away with it. He pushed backers out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:05:32 That seems like this is going to wrap up the game. Ten points now. Billy, I don't think you do play by play. I mean, it's here tomorrow. We're fine. This is tomorrow. All right. Yeah. Or I mean, I mean, it is right now. Whatever date is it aired yesterday, I guess, if you're listening on a Saturday or two days
Starting point is 00:05:47 ago on a Sunday. Oh, you know what? He may have cut that. Now that second foot didn't get down. Zach Gertz, huh? Still in the league. Still at it. Yeah, still at it.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Revenge game thing. I think I think I think maybe maybe two touchdowns ago yeah at 7 nothing right yeah anyway so exciting week you guys ready for what week is this week 11 it is week week 11 big weekend you have the Ravens and the Steelers you have the Bills and the Chiefs it's gonna be a fun weekend. It's a great weekend. Yeah Good college games. What are you most looking forward to on this episode guys? Oh I'm talking about JFK. Yeah. Yeah You know what I'm looking forward to our
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Starting point is 00:06:55 Billy, can I ask you a question? Ooh, they're reviewing the play, we're still alive. Yes, you guys, what's the question? Sims. Yeah. Weird dude, huh? I mean. Because he spent so much time doing his own research on JFK. question. Sims. Yeah. Weird dude, huh? Because he spent so much time doing his own research on JFK
Starting point is 00:07:12 and aliens. I'm just saying, okay, I am. I'm asking you the question. I don't find him to be weird. I love him. He's a good friend of mine. I think you find him to be a little bit kooky. No, no, no, no, no. You're not going to do that to, where you have declared him a weird guy and now you're trying to pawn that up onto me. I just asked the question, I mean, it's all I did. That's gonna be a catch, by the way, that we're gonna have an eight point game
Starting point is 00:07:33 and they're gonna have to kick an onside kick here. By the way, nothing wrong with weird. Weird is cool, I love him to death, and if he's weird, he's weird. I'm weird, anyway, what Mike? Let me, I'd like to let the audience a little behind the curtain. So before Sims signed on, we were doing some stupid stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Oh, boy. Yeah. It happened. It's an eight point game now. It's an eight point game. What's going to happen? They just they overturned the number. What do you guys think? Is I get what I get what happened? What do you think is going to happen?
Starting point is 00:08:03 Well, now there's an outside kick. And if they get the back, it's an eight-point game. That's one score They have 28 seconds to score another touchdown another two-point conversion I don't like that. You have to declare the outside kick me neither. I mean everybody knows I hate it Anyways, but I don't know I know but I still I mean Declared takes the element of surprise out of it once in a while You think Nick Sirianni would be a fun hang? Yep. Really? No. Yeah. Not a chance.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Why he takes himself way too seriously. He's way too seriously. He's the kind of guy where you say a joke and he yells at you because it's factually incorrect. You know what he does? He gets you he gets you and your friends into a massive fight and walks away. He's that guy with other people, right? Like not you get you guys in a fight with other people.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And he's not involved in the fight, but he starts it. But he doesn't he doesn't participate. Yeah, probably. That's what yeah. Yeah. All right. Here's I love them, though. Big onside kick. Mikey, can you imagine having a four year? Mikey, we're Jeff fans.
Starting point is 00:09:06 41 and 19, Super Bowl. Can you imagine? No! Right. Fire him. Terrible kick. Get rid of him. Terrible kick.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Well, that'll do it for that, so... Should we get to the episode? 26 to 18. Hey, would you guys want Dion as your coach? Do we get to that in this episode? I think we do. I would. Yeah, I guess you're right. Would you want to get wait, I'm getting should or would you want him without should or because I was seeing I was seeing out there. Hey, would Jerry Jones hire Deon Sanders to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. But they have DAC rights, unless they trade DAC because they drafted Shador, which why would they do that anyways? Would you want Deion without Shador?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Hmm. Would you like I would rather should door without Deion than Deion without Shador? Well, you would always take the player over the coach, the quarterback. Hmm. Because it's unknown whether either of them would be good in the NFL and I'll take the unknown quarterback over the unknown coach. So I'm with you on that. Hey, I think you guys are doing that. Yeah, the Eagles are really good. Sir, you're on as a good coach.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Jalen Hurts is an MVP candidate. Yeah, you got what you guys do. Yeah, yeah. He's sure he's not 42 and 19 All right, well that's it who we going to first here Let's go to Golic. Oh The man that didn't let us into his house Find out goal extreme job. Oh god. I forgot about that. That was a good episode
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Starting point is 00:11:26 Think wisely, drink wisely. Mike, did you have any issues with the college football rankings? They came out in the second edition of the committee's rankings. Any issues? I was surprised with the strength of schedule and strength of resume Georgia has that they dropped as much as they did. They dropped nine spots to number 12, which basically puts them out because as long as a group of five is below the 12 slot, they get the 12 slot and knock the 12 slot out.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So Georgia, while technically at the 12 slot, isn't really there because Boise State was 13, they would move to 12. I think they did a little bit of course correction on BYU. And I know in the ESPN show, Greg McElroy had been talking about BYU got disrespected the first week and they did of course correct.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And Reese Davis said he didn't think it was, it was because Georgia and Miami lost. So they just naturally fell below BYU. But BYU and Indiana both jumped Tennessee. Tennessee stayed at seven and Indiana went from eight to five and BYU went from nine to six. So I do think it was a little bit of a correction for BYU to give them a little more love. Do you think the committee, Mike, do you want to see
Starting point is 00:12:51 Colorado get into the playoff? And do you think the committee wants to see Colorado get into the playoff? Oh no, they don't want to see him get into the playoffs. I mean, this is just going to go to the should conference champions be in the play or get automatic spots Because outside I think the sun belt I think all the the conferences took away divisions So do you just go to who wins the regular season conference and don't have that extra game? Because quite honestly you could have the extra game playing the conference championship game because quite honestly, you could have the extra game playing the conference championship game, lose it and be out of the playoffs
Starting point is 00:13:27 and somebody in the conference could have not made the championship game, not had to play that extra game and still be in the playoffs. So there's gonna be flaws to every system. And quite honestly, do you take the human element out of it? Do you go back to the old BCS computer? You know, I mean, you looked at the four
Starting point is 00:13:50 playoff teams picked by the committee over the years. And if you put the basically the computer, the old BCS computer in there, a lot of times it was the same four teams. Well, now it's 12. Now it's a little bit more. Now it's so, four was subjective, 12 is subjective, but obviously with more teams. Well, now it's 12. Now it's a little bit more. Now it's it's it's so four was subjective. 12 is subjective, but obviously with more teams. So do you take the human element
Starting point is 00:14:11 out of it and just put all the information in a computer and let it spit out the 12 teams? Uh, Billy, did you hear what I heard? I mean, all of a sudden Golic is into the BCS again, huh? Long A for the BCS is all I heard. Listen, I had no problem. Now, the BCS was just two teams, obviously. The committee was four teams.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Not our BCS, it was six last year, Mike. Believe me, I'm still waiting to pull my hammy whenever you do the show. Longing for our BCS? Remember, we flirted with the idea of adding Lucy to the committee, which could help you out because maybe it'll give us some more credibility.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Maybe things will be somewhat under control. Well, yeah, I mean, that would certainly class it up a bit. There's no doubt about that. Mike, is a lot of this much to do about nothing because Georgia will play Tennessee, right? Indiana will play Ohio State. These things will kind of sort themselves out. And the committee knows that, Tennessee, right? Indiana will play Ohio State. These things will kind of sort themselves out. And the committee knows that, Billy, right?
Starting point is 00:15:09 So why I look at where the rankings are, BYU going to six, I think is important because if they were to lose in the Big 12 championship game to Iowa State or probably Colorado, then while that Colorado, let's just say it's Colorado, would have an automatic bid, I think BYU is high enough to where they wouldn't drop out. They could still make the playoffs. So I think the Big 12 could possibly get two teams. And if Indiana were to lose Ohio State, BYU will move up another spot to at least number five. So I think the
Starting point is 00:15:45 Big 12 has a chance to get two teams and the ACC is down to one with Miami being the highest seed now at nine. They're gonna have one team. It's gonna be Miami and SMU or possibly Clemson but probably Miami and SMU. Winner's gonna be in, losers gonna be out, they're gonna have one representative. How much of that do you think the committee factors in? Because like you said that you would love to be part of the committee one day. Do you think that there are committee members
Starting point is 00:16:09 who are actively thinking, okay, let's use this one, but we could be setting this up for future ones. And like, this is a good team, but if they slip, if we have them here, they'll fall out. But if we put them two spots higher, they'll stay in. So not that they're protecting teams or kind of trying to you know. Set it up for for failure potentially but do you think some of that is going on I don't think there's anything wrong with positioning teams.
Starting point is 00:16:33 No I mean that and you hear different things out of the committee every week it's supposed to be a week to week thing which I get. which I get, but I mean, I think BYU deserves to be in a position to where if they were to lose now again, if they got blown out, maybe you think differently, but if it was a close game that they could still be in the top 12. And if they were ranked 10, that wouldn't happen if they were in nine or eight, maybe that even wouldn't happen. But six or five, they have a good shot. So I do think you, you, you have to have a little bit of foresight. It's also a very different season right where the undefeated team isn't really a thing like outside of Oregon being undefeated you'll have like an Indiana and a BYU who are still undefeated but everyone's lost right so there's nothing wrong with a one lost BYU being 12th in the country and getting in. Oh no there's going to be two loss team, maybe a couple of two loss teams that get in. Alabama sitting at 10, so if they don't move,
Starting point is 00:17:31 they're going to be in. There could be a couple of two loss SEC teams in there. I mean, Texas A&M and Texas still have to play. As you mentioned, Georgia and Tennessee still have to play. Ohio State and Indiana have to play. Ohio State at number two, think about Ohio State. So they had a one point loss to Oregon. If they were to lose a close game to the committees,
Starting point is 00:17:53 number five Indiana, now they're not playing in a conference championship game. So the most thing, as long as they win the rest of their regular season games, the most they could have is two losses. They're gonna be in the top 12, right? I mean, a close loss to Indiana, who is at five, is not gonna make OSU fall out of the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:18:12 It's just not gonna happen. So there could actually be a benefit to not playing in a conference championship game where you're basically, you're done and you're locked in and don't have the threat of losing a conference championship game. We talked about it last week a little bit, but I think as we're getting closer, it seems less likely that a three loss team or multiple three loss teams are going to make it in.
Starting point is 00:18:35 If it if it is, it's an SEC team for sure. It's going to be Georgia if it is, right? Yeah, well Georgia now Georgia loses to Tennessee. They're done. They're already the committee already right now. They're out So if they lose they're gonna fall further out. Yeah, so they get a third loss There's no shot that they're in the playoffs. I do not I do not think there will be a three loss team in the playoffs Mike you mentioned Miami before and considering how they won all their games You know nail biters at the end and miraculous comebacks and then losing to Georgia Tech, are you surprised they only dropped four or five spots? What did they drop? Five spots? Yeah, they dropped. They dropped five spots. I am surprised a little
Starting point is 00:19:15 bit because they've been living on the edge for weeks and living on the edge against all right teams, not great teams, okay teams. They've been having needed Cam Ward to pull their butts out of the fire and that just didn't happen against Georgia Tech. So I was surprised they fell. I mean, I get it. The committee is saying they were still undefeated before they lost, but if you look at some of their losses, I mean, or some of their wins,
Starting point is 00:19:44 they were they were very very close so but I think to Billy's point they're in a position now to where if they lose the conference championship game they're going to be out they're they're at nine they're they're going to fall outside the top if they can't lose another game they're out of the playoffs is what you're saying is what you're saying. And you're right. Oh, absolutely. Yes, right, any game.
Starting point is 00:20:07 It could be Syracuse, final regular season game of the year. Exactly. Right. Including the conference championship. Yes. There's not gonna be a two loss ACC team, I don't think,
Starting point is 00:20:19 unless it's the automatic qualifier somehow some way, that would be the only way. Well, could they be a two loss team that doesn't make the conference championship and makes it in because they're stronger than the conference champion? Well, no, a conference champion has an automatic bid. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And if Miami gets a second loss before the conference championship game, they're at nine now, they get a second loss now, they're done, I mean, there's no way they'll be in the top 12. Mike, will you be attending the Notre Dame Army game in a couple of weeks at Yankee Stadium? I will not. I usually have to travel on that day for my Sunday game.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Because Mike, I was thinking, Notre Dame's gonna get in, whether they win that game or not. Army has no chance of getting in if they lose that game. And perhaps you should talk to the folks over at Notre Dame's gonna get in whether they win that game or not. Army has no chance of getting in if they lose that game and perhaps you should talk to the folks over at Notre Dame and you know maybe figure out a way for our armed forces, the people that protect this country to possibly get into the playoff. What do you think? Notre Dame is absolutely positively not guaranteed a spot if they lose.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Oh come on. They're sitting at eight. I mean come on. They're in regardless. They're sitting at eight. They're in regardless. They're sitting at eight. They can only be nine, ten, or eleven if a group of five is outside the top twelve because that twelve spot is a death spot. You get knocked out. I think if Notre Dame loses the army, I do not think they're making the playoffs. I'm kind
Starting point is 00:21:41 of with Billy where I feel like the committee is going to put they would be the three lost team that could get in. No, today. No way. Not a chance. No three lost team will be an SEC team if there is, but I don't think there will be. I mean, they'd only have two of they lost to army, right? The other team's getting in. Mike, come on, don't worry about this. Don't stress this situation. Lose the army. I'm telling you they're not getting it.
Starting point is 00:22:05 They don't have a conference game to lose, so they'll be fine. They don't, that's true. They're fine, don't worry. But Mike, if you're going to lose and not make the playoff, the team that you would want to lose to is the Army, right? If you go that route, yes. I would rather than lose the Army than lose to Virginia or USC, certainly not USC. They were to drop a game, I would rather beat lose to Army than lose to Virginia or USC, certainly not USC. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:26 They were to drop a game, I would rather be to Army than anybody. I'd rather them not drop a game, believe me. But yes, it would be to Army. He hates this conversation. He does. He just hates it. I don't understand why, I'm just talking.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Well, we put him in such a bad spot. Like, you know, he's going, like everyone knows who Mike is and how much Mike appreciates the military and we're putting him in a terrible spot. I mean, sometimes. Oh, but you guys love doing that. You thrive on
Starting point is 00:22:50 doing that. Mike, how would you feel? Billy and I were discussing this on the show the other day. How would you feel if in the NFL there was a selection committee and they selected who the playoff teams were going to be? Oh, I would hate it. Yeah. I like it all decided on the field. they selected who the playoff teams were going to be. Oh, I would hate
Starting point is 00:23:07 it. Yeah II like it all decided on the field II would hate the subjectivity of that really no, no, no, don't give me that unless I'm on the committee. Yeah. Do you just want to be on committees in general like he loves where we're at? He does
Starting point is 00:23:22 this college football committee seems to eat really well. Yeah. That's all he cares about. You can buy food. You can buy food. I'd rather have it given to me. Where's the line for committee? You want to be the HOA committee?
Starting point is 00:23:37 You want to be like school board? Where's the line for you in terms of committee? When I'm done with everything, I'd like to be the security guy that drives around in the truck with the development's name on the side of it, like Greyhawk. You know? And what would you be doing?
Starting point is 00:23:52 Are you talking? You just drive around, act like you're. Right, he's talking about like fake security. It's not real security. No, I know, like you know, flashlight, like if you see something, you know, like teens, skateboards, what do you do, like point a flashlight? Keep it moving over there.
Starting point is 00:24:03 No, it would take a lot for me to get out of my car. It's just about having a presence. Right, okay. Would you want like one of the little, not a blue and red one obviously, because you wouldn't want to be impersonating a cop. Maybe like a yellow siren on the top. You just hit a thing like a burp burp.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Oh, oh, absolutely. Moving along kids, moving along. Yep, plus it makes it official. What a strange dream. Yeah. And then have all the kids swear at me, look at this, run a cop. Right. What is keeping you from pursuing swear at me, look at this rent a cop. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:26 What is keeping you from pursuing that dream? Aim high, Mike. Aim high. Come on, what is keeping you from doing this? I mean, you as a Whack-N-Hut security guy would be great. Oh, well, I said, because I'm doing a show every day with my son and calling games on the weekends. I mean, how much do you want to bog me down here?
Starting point is 00:24:43 I'm in semi-retirement. 12 to four, you know, in the afternoon, what are we doing, let's drive around. I got golfing, hopefully golfing. Okay, I'm looking up for you now, like at police auctions, retired police cars, maybe we can kinda get you one, you could just drive around,
Starting point is 00:24:56 so we can have it wrapped for you or something. Mike, do it. I don't really wanna fake it right now, I'd actually like to have a job as a development security person. Oh, oh, come on. Oh, God. You're fine. You don't need to be paid whatever it is that they're paid.
Starting point is 00:25:10 You're okay. Oh, I found one for you. Pay him in spread. I'm gonna put it in the chat. Pay him in a spread. Yeah, he just wants some lunch. Pay him with food. That's it. That would be part of the deal, that I get three squares. Yeah. Yeah. Mike, what is the-
Starting point is 00:25:24 He long shift three squares, man. I was gonna say a four hour shift, he get three squares. Yeah. Yeah. Mike, what is the long shift? Three squares. I was gonna say a four hour shift. He wants three squares. Crazy. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I found you a 2008 Dodge Charger Sedan retired police car for $1200 Mike. Oh wow. Yeah. See in 1200 bucks is fine because I only needed to drive in the neighborhood. Yeah, you know, I mean air conditioning maybe I mean $1200 is two stops radio road talking about diabetes. I mean that's what needed to drive in the neighborhood. Yeah, you know what I mean? Air conditioning maybe. I mean, $1,200 is two stops, radio road, talking about diabetes. I mean, that's what it is, right?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Two stops. That's half a stop. Who you kidding? I was going to say. Wow, I'm sorry. You don't know who you're talking to. Half a stop. So what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:25:58 That's seven and a half minutes of a 15 minute interview with 94.7, the bone in New Orleans? Yeah. Yes. Oh, God. Mike of the NFL games. It's such a big NFL weekend. Which game are you most excited for? You have Steelers and Ravens, you have Bills and Chiefs. It's a great weekend in the NFL. Is there one that stands out for you? I mean, those are the two, you know, the Chiefs winning 15 in a NFL, is there one that stands out for you? I mean, those are the two, you know, the Chiefs went in 15 in a row, but they're kind of just pulling games out.
Starting point is 00:26:30 It's amazing. It wouldn't shock anybody if the Bills won this game. And I don't know who had the Steelers at the top of the division going into the season. Yeah. You know, when they had two quarterbacks, you say you have two quarterbacks, you have none, but they had no real tie to either Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:26:49 or Russell Wilson. They could go with either one. And now Mike Tomlin looks like a genius, even though Justin Fields went four and two, he switches to Russell Wilson and it's worked. The Ravens offense is just incredible, but their back, the end of the defense, just giving up so many chunk plays.
Starting point is 00:27:09 But the thing about it is, the Steelers, well, aren't a monster passing team, they're a better passing team with Russ than Justin Fields, and Russ always has thrown the best deep ball. And Mike Williams has been a recipient of that, George Pickens has been a recipient to that. And Baltimore has shown a propensity
Starting point is 00:27:29 to give up the big play. So that's something Baltimore has got. And I don't know how they're gonna fix it, but they have to try and fix it. Mike, what are the Colts doing with Anthony Richardson? I mean, it's ridiculous. Well, listen. Even though we don't think
Starting point is 00:27:46 they're a playoff team, a couple of weeks ago they were in the hunt for the AFC wild card. Yes. And quite honestly. They still are, I mean technically. Yeah, if you look at it they kind of still are. Now do we think they're a playoff team? Not really, but I think a couple of weeks ago, Shane Stiken owed it to the other 52
Starting point is 00:28:07 guys in the locker room to take a shot because Anthony Richardson was not playing well and he wasn't alone. He wasn't alone but he wasn't playing well, turning the ball over. So see if that Joe Flacco magic like he had in Cleveland would come back. It didn't, so now you go back to Anthony Richardson and you keep him in now. You don't play musical chairs at the quarterback position. Now you keep him in. Unless he is just completely lost out there, you let him play the string out.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Billy, what are you laughing at there? I see you're looking up something. What are you laughing at? I found you a 2011 Ford Crown Victoria. Oh, and it has the bumper on the front. And everything is a nice looking former police car. Mike. Oh, the bumper on the front where I could tap something if I need. Yeah, it's a good one.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Just the threat of tapping something I think is key. It's black. It has a stand, perhaps. It has the white doors here. It plenty of room to kind of put your own personalized decal on there, Golic Security or whatever you want it to be. And Mike, you're right. I mean, does the lemonade stand, do they have a permit? That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Right, is it great? Are they illegal? You'll find out. Yeah. You'll get to the bottom of that. I have no doubts. Or is it a rogue lemonade stand? I'll get to the bottom of it.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I'd like to come up with some scenarios for next week, if we could, of if Mike were a security guard driving around and certain things happen in the neighborhood, how he would handle said things, you know? What I would get out of the car for. Right. Well, I imagine the lemonade stand, you know, not to put out there that you may be able to be bought, but if someone hands you a cold cup of lemonade,
Starting point is 00:29:46 I think maybe we look the other way, you say, you know what, just get your affairs in order. We'll be back tomorrow. It depends on the transgression. I may have to leave there with a couple of cups and some snacks. Right. Yeah. I love the idea.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I love the idea of burglars using food to lure Mike out of the car. And then he starts to- Like he's Yogi Bear or something. Right, and they start robbing other houses. The picnic basket. That's true. He just like floats out of his car
Starting point is 00:30:10 and his nose is like smelling the Yogi Bear and he's floating. Oh man. Check him out, Gojo and Gullick every day eight to 10 a.m. Eastern on the DraftKings network and wherever you get your podcast. Do you have a game this weekend, Mike? I do. I am doing the Bengals at the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Nice. Chargers sneaky good, Mike. Yeah, Chargers are. I mean, we thought it'd be a year or so for Jim to build the team he wants, but boy, that defense has come along quickly on the offense. Herbert obviously still throwing the ball well, but not to the not to the Quinton Johnston is having himself a nice year. Yeah, they're they're a surprise team. I do that Sunday game and then I pick up a quick Thursday game. I do next Thursday, Pittsburgh at Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Nice. Oh, you get that one. OK, yeah, that's fine. What Billy is saying is he's going to skip that one. No, no, we actually have a watch party for that one. I'm gonna do it for that one. Okay, yeah, that's fine. What Billy is saying is he's gonna skip that one. No, no, we actually have a watch party for that one. Mike, you had a, we thought it'd be a good one last Sunday, but like sneaky good game, and it was looking like it wasn't gonna be at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It was looking like the Texas were gonna blow them out, then sure enough. 23 to seven, Houston outscores Detroit in the first half, and then 19 zip in the second half. Yeah, it was a tale of two games for sure. All right, Mike, we know you have to run Arizona. We loved it by the way, fantastic, beautiful spot. We left a gift in the mailbox.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I hope you guys got it. So, I mean, thank you for letting us stay there. I'm afraid to look at any gift that you send because I have no idea what it's gonna do. That's not nice, I mean. Yeah, come on. It's either a live or white powder, so I don't know. I'm not gonna look at any gift that you send because I have no idea what it's gonna do. That's not nice. I mean, yeah, come on here. It's either alive or
Starting point is 00:31:50 white powder. So, I don't know. Oh, my. Depends on the white powder. The white powder I left in the bathroom, Mike. Alright, have a good weekend. Holy shit. It is time for this week's edition of Stu Yagats presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all
Starting point is 00:32:06 it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. College football week 12, 5 and 7 a week ago, 56, 51, and 2 on the season. Not terrible. Playing gabber. Let's get to the games. Texas minus 13 and a half. They're taking on Arkansas. It's at Arkansas. Buy it down to thirteen. Texas wins and they cover Texas by seventeen points on the road. Colorado minus eleven. Take it on Utah. Colorado wins and they cover Colorado by twenty-one points at home over Utah.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Liberty minus fourteen and a half at UMass. UMass, terrible. Liberty, pretty good. When I have a terrible team versus a pretty good team, I take the team that's pretty good. Liberty is minus fourteen and a half. Buy it down to fourteen. Liberty wins the game. Liberty covers. They win by twenty- 21 points on the road. Jacksonville State. Billy's not going to be happy. Minus 14 taking on FIU. Buy it down to 13 and a half. I'm taking Jacksonville State to win by 17 points. Georgia Southern minus seven and a half. Take it
Starting point is 00:33:21 on Troy. Buy it down to seven, Georgia Southern wins, they cover Georgia Southern by 10 points. Illinois minus three, take it on Michigan State, buy it down to two and a half, Illinois wins and covers, they win by 10 points at home. Oregon, take it on Wisconsin, Wisconsin, not very good. Oregon might be the best team in the country. Buy it down to 13 and a half. I'm taking Oregon to win and cover. They win by 21 points. Big game this weekend. Tennessee, Georgia, SEC clash.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Tennessee getting 10 points. Georgia should not be favored by 10 points over anyone at this point, but they are. I'm taking Tennessee. Georgia wins the game. Tennessee covers Georgia by a field goal. Memphis minus 14, take it on UAB, buy it down to 13 and a half. Memphis wins by 17 points.
Starting point is 00:34:17 BYU minus two and a half. They're taking on Kansas. Kansas, they have the audacity to think they're going to stroll the Provo, Utah on a Saturday night and get a win. They're not. BYU will. They win. They cover BYU by 10 points at home. NFL, week 10, four and three a week ago, 45-27-2 on the season. I am on a heater. I really am. Lions, minus 13 and two on the road. Dolphins. They bounced back last week. Now they're home this week. They're taking on the Raiders. It's minus seven. I like the Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:35:16 They are still in the mix. Buy it down to six and a half. The Dolphins win. They cover the game. The Dolphins buy 14 points at home over the Raiders. San Francisco getting healthy Minus six and a half take it on Seattle buy it down to six the Niners win and they cover the Niners by 13 points at home Broncos minus two and a half they're taking on the Falcons Broncos are sneaky good I'm telling you the Broncos win and they cover the Broncos by 10 points at home and finally the Chargers
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Starting point is 00:37:30 the prototypical like great student who graduated from like the Naval Academy like he's what it's supposed to look like for then like Tom Cruise to come in and just undercut him. You're making Sims out to be Iceman. I mean, that's what you're essentially, and Iceman eventually came around. He did, he came around, they became friends, but that's essentially what you're making Sims to be. And I agree with you guys, Iceman,
Starting point is 00:37:55 he is the cocky guy on the beach, dog tags out playing volleyball, high-fiving his teammates. That's who he is. I don't think you'd have a problem with it, to be honest with you. Yeah. And then during the final mission. Sims is also one of the guys in the first group
Starting point is 00:38:07 around Tom Cruise when he's singing to Kelly McGillis. Yes, he's there. Like he's the one that's going like, oh, I've done this before. Yeah. I know this move. And then it's time for the final mission and Tom Cruise and Chris Sims are there getting their orders
Starting point is 00:38:18 and then all of a sudden Mike Golick runs up with his flight suit on. They're like, what the hell are you doing here? He's like, one last ride and they all go together. Wait, so now you have Golick, it's Tom Cruise. He's with, one last ride, and they all go together. One last ride. Wait, so now you have Golik at Somme Cruise. No, he's there with him. Okay. One last ride.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah, one last ride. If we were in the world of Independence Day, I could see Golik as Randy Quaid, like saving us from the aliens, but also as Bill Pullman, the president. He does both, he does both roles. Yeah. He's a great speech. Like, Like it could be both quays,
Starting point is 00:38:46 Randy and Dennis somehow. You're right. See, and I got I got sins as the guy on the ground at Area 51 being like training the pilots. Yeah. You know, like you knew about the aliens. These are not the normal planes you guys are used to. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not training any pilots, but I am like somewhere in Area 51 looking for the good that they've been hiding from everybody in Yeah. I'm not training any pilots, but I am like somewhere in Area 51 looking for the good that they've been hiding from everybody in society. I'm like breaking the rules going. Oh, I don't have clearance here.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Hold on. I gotta get in there and see what's going on. No, see that kind of you think there's weed in Area 51. I mean, what do you want the aliens? I mean, I want the aliens. I want. Yeah, I want all that stuff that they talk about the alien ships, whatever all the things that they've always said through the years that is covered up there, right? I mean, I've always been interested in that. And the JFK assassination, there's like two things that I have like a
Starting point is 00:39:33 little bit of a hobby with every now and then we'll read stuff on. Yeah, I would I would consider myself the most knowledgeable JFK assassination person any of you know, okay? I will say that I have done my diligence watching, reading, doing all that. So yeah, I find that stuff kind of cool. Maybe they have the secrets to who killed JFK there in Area 51.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Well, hold on a second. So what happened with JFK? Right, who killed them? Well, the United States government killed JFK, right? There's no doubt about that. I mean, Lee Harvey Oswald was in the CIA. He was a... So to get into it, there's a lot. It's deep, right? There's no doubt about that. I mean, Lee Harvey Oswald was in the CIA. So to get into it, there's a lot. It's deep, right? Either way. But yeah, it was the United States government with maybe in cahoots with some other things here and there. But either way,
Starting point is 00:40:17 when you lead it back to that, no doubt about it. No, no questions. Multiple shooters or just one? Oh, I mean, we'll see. I mean, oh yeah, Lee Harvey Oswald pulled off the greatest shooting expedition that nobody else has ever done still to this day. The magic bullet, Chris. The magic bullet. Oh, I know, because bullets go through bodies,
Starting point is 00:40:33 and then they take right turns, and then take left turns, and then go through somebody's body, and then take another left turn, and then go back left the other way. That's what you all have to say to people who believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK. You have to go, wait, so you're telling me you believe in a theory that a bullet went through someone,
Starting point is 00:40:53 took a right turn, then took a left turn, went through somebody, took a left turn, and then took another left turn and came out. That's all you're gonna have to say. And I mean, there's only this visual evidence of a guy's head being blown off and going this way. But yeah, no, he got shot from the back. OK, sure.
Starting point is 00:41:09 And what happened at the grassy knoll? Yeah, that's where the shot was. I mean, that's there was somebody there. Well, I don't know, somebody that was working for the CIA or somebody there. How about the mafia? Was the mafia involved or? Mafia, I think, was helping of the covering up and some of that,
Starting point is 00:41:24 but not like there that day. They didn't take all the agents off or? Mafia, I think, was helping of the covering up and some of that, but not like there that day. They didn't take all the agents off the streets, right? And make it, they didn't make it to this parade route. Have you ever been to the place where he got shot? No. I mean, oh, you need to go see it. Really? First of all, it's the biggest coup d'etat.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I don't even know how to shoot a gun, but I'm just telling you, if I was there, I'd go, I might be able to hit him from here. It's all so close and so tight. You don't understand. Billy, it literally, from that observatory building, like he is right underneath them. It's like less than a hundred yards away. It's not far. The grassy knoll is like, I could have thrown a football and hit him in the head from there. Like it's no joke. So that's where there's a lot there. But we can dive into that more and more as you want. No, no, no, I want to stay right here. You went to the grassy knoll.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I mean, I've been there twice. Wow. And they're taking the tape like follow up notes on what you missed the first time. I said, I've stood on the X exactly. There's an X on the street where it all happened. And it's crazy. There's like the feel the power that's there and all that.
Starting point is 00:42:25 But yeah, oh, come on. I mean, people coming out of the woodworks and taking cameras out of people's hands seconds after it happened, right? The changing of the autopsy, I mean, you all saw his head's blown off. Right. I mean, the autopsy is heads together
Starting point is 00:42:39 and there's a little hole. I have never checked out the autopsy. I can't check it out. Billy, I can't. It's all a coup d'etat, man. It's all a coup d'etat. I can't tell if It's all a coup d'etat, man. It's all a coup d'etat. I can't tell if he's an expert or if he watched Oliver Stone's JFK.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I mean, I just I can't. There's some of that. I've watched that. And I've watched his- What did he get wrong? What did Oliver Stone get wrong? And his follow up. And he did a documentary that's really good.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I can't remember. The best thing that I've read some books that have, what they do. This is what got me started. In in eighth grade I had somebody come to my school and they did like a you know presentation and there it was on the assassination which I was already in interested in but they sued the US government and he said listen they sue you if you sue them they'll send you the information but they drowned you in the information right if the reports 200 pages they send you a million books in a million pages
Starting point is 00:43:28 and make you go through it and you have to figure it out and yes the best books I've read have actual documentation like document 2449 ABC debit you know whatever and it has all this and if you read through it it's crazy it's crazy it's just exhausting to read or decipher through and most people don't want to do that. So I have an idea yeah and I feel like this is like an idea that we pitched to Peacock and I don't know how it is right right but I feel like Peacock is a place for it so I'm volunteering I think me and you go together and it's Billy and Chris Sims or Chris Sims and Billy because you obviously have a bigger name Chris Sims and Billy I don't even have to be in there right and it's just so and it's Billy and Chris Sims or Chris Sims and Billy, because you obviously have a bigger name.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Chris Sims and Billy, I don't even have to be in there, right? And it's just football crime solvers. Yeah, football history crime solvers. And we just go around and we try to solve like history's crimes. And it's you like on the grassy knoll and it's like you trying to see,
Starting point is 00:44:21 can I throw a football and hit JFK in that head from the grassy knoll? Like we use football to see if we can solve crimes. Yeah, but Billy, you would be JFK in that scenario. You love ideas where me and you travel together and do all that, man. I don't think there's much of a lifeline for that show. I would have to do, oh come on.
Starting point is 00:44:37 You know I'd be doing a lot of the lead work. Yeah, but Sims, Sims. I'd be doing a lot of the lead work. You'd just be kind of showing up and kind of like guiding me around. I had an idea once, Chris, that I think that you would have liked, and it never got off the ground
Starting point is 00:44:48 and I never even pitched it because I thought that it was gonna go nowhere. But it was when we were at ESPN and they were launching ESPN Plus and they were just looking for content. And I wanted to pitch a travel show where it was me and Mike Leach going around the country and he was just teaching me American history.
Starting point is 00:45:04 So like he would take me to like battle sites and just tell me all of these things that he knew off of the top of his head. One day, I'm gonna hook a fish that's gonna do a travel show with me. It's gonna happen. One day, you tell me, you tell me who wants to invest in that horrible idea.
Starting point is 00:45:18 This is where you pull the strings. I'm getting you the answers to the JFK thing that you. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm getting you the answers to the JFK thing that you so desire. Yeah. Right. All you have to know is like with every time everybody says, oh, it's about to get released and they don't release those last hundred pages.
Starting point is 00:45:36 That's all you got. Trump was talking about it. Right. It was like when Trump got elected on 2016, it was the thing I was most excited about. I was like, oh my gosh, we're gonna finally find the JFK stuff because he promised it, right? But what happens all every time is the CIA comes in,
Starting point is 00:45:51 they go, you can't because we killed him and we just can't tell everybody that or we'll lose face in the government. And that's all there is to know. I want you to rethink your position on what Billy is proposing because he is willing to be JFK in this scenario. So you're on the grassy.
Starting point is 00:46:07 No, no, no. You're on the grass. You know football. Yeah, you get the that's exactly. And now we all want to grow football for this time. So I'm going to parade around somewhere. Can you curve the football? Can we talk about football theory?
Starting point is 00:46:22 Okay, hold on a second. How about this? Jesus! If this will seal the deal, I will ride on the back of a convertible, and you can throw a football at my head in Dallas. Yeah, no. It's not going to seal the deal, because the rest of the trip
Starting point is 00:46:35 sounds not fun, and it's a lot of work for nothing, all right? So I'm not doing it. All right? It's going to be great. Imagine. It's like MythBusters, but with like unsolved historical crimes and football. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Right. Yes. MythBusters football. Historical game tape. Exactly. Right. Let's go to the Zapruder film. I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Oh my God. The Zapruder film room. And we have you breaking down the film with Xs and Os. Naming rights. I'm going to put some work in on this, Chris. I'll do the legwork. Yeah, go ahead. I'll follow up with you in a couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I'm just glad my fucking jersey's back up this week. Thanks a lot for acknowledging me, guys. Now, here's the thing that Mikey and Stugots may have not noticed or may not tell you is, when we recorded earlier today for another part of the episode, that was not up. I actually went to make sure that that was up for you this week. Truth. Because I know I hurt you so much last week.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Well, why is it not up all the time? That didn't make me feel any better. I don't understand. So you're just telling me you're just trying to f***ing use me and butter me up a little bit for 30 minutes every day? And I thought it was there all the f***ing time. It is there all the time,
Starting point is 00:47:38 but I had taken it down last week. We were doing some cleaning. I moved it around so that we wouldn't damage it. And then I forgot to put it back up, but it's fine. I have a question for you regarding Area 51. I don't know how much research you've done into Area 51. I'm perfectly fine staying here the entire time. Go ahead, Billy. So, do you guys think, I don't know, do you believe in aliens first of all? Yes. Okay, so that's a good starting point.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Have you encountered one? No, no, I haven't. But I mean, I just, you know, I'm playing the percentages. The universe is big. Gosh, damn, we got a lot of big and we got a ton of videos of we're seeing flying through our earth right now. And you go and that's not a normal airplane. I don't know what the that is. So yeah, I'm a believer in it.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Do you think that they've made their way to earth and they've kind of interacted with humans or we have like an alien species Or whatever at area 51. I don't think so. I don't I mean maybe they caught one that's dead I mean I could see that maybe or something like that. Are they roaming amongst us? No, are they coming here right now going? Why is this species trying to kill themselves and up the place they live? Definitely. They're like wait This is like this is the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Are they the dumbest people or dumbest beings in the universe? They're ruining their planet they live on and they talk about God's green
Starting point is 00:48:52 earth all the time. What? I don't understand it. Okay. Well, my question was more so, what kind of drugs do you think aliens do? Like you think they have drugs on their planets that are different than like drugs here on earth? Nah, they're high on life. They're doing great. Really? That's why they're not as stupid and they're not killing their own planets. They're out having a good time. There's lots of dead planets out there, Chris, that could have been killed by aliens. Probably humans did that too. We just don't know yet. Anything bad, I'm going to blame
Starting point is 00:49:19 it on humans. I'm guaranteeing they probably f***ed up. You think humans went and killed off other planets? Would you like to know? The way it looks right now, I mean every billionaire on Earth is trying to get off the planet again right now looking to Get a starship, spaceship, cruiser, and build a place somewhere else. Yeah, it's all a little weird out there You could do that same. Would you go live on another planet? No, I would like not to. It'd be boring as hell There's nothing to do there. I prefer Earth, but I would prefer Earth not to be 80 in November in the Northeast.
Starting point is 00:49:49 That's a little weird. Would you smoke weed with an alien? Yeah. Yeah, we got a lot of work to do. Would you smoke weed with an alien? Oh, yeah, I definitely would. Right. I mean, that would enhance the experience.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I think I might be able to speak his language when I smoke weed with him a little bit. Really? Like, oh, yeah, I get what you're saying. Oh yeah, me too. Do you think I think the dolphins aren't that good either and Billy's a great. Do you think a team of aliens would beat the chiefs? Wow. I would think they'd have some special powers. They'd have
Starting point is 00:50:19 some special right there. They're alien. Randy Moss would just be too much for any of our people to handle. You done? So the chiefs are playing the bills. No, that was a question for Billy. Uh BFT with Mike Floria, the Hun Button Podcast, uh Football Night in America as well. Chris Simms is with us here on God Bless Football. Uh let's start with Anthony Richardson. Um some people would say Anthony Richardson is an alien. Seriously, physically. What are the
Starting point is 00:50:52 cults doing? Sims? What are they doing? Alright, so here here's some things I've said a few things to on on TV and tried to tell some people a little bit, right? Like, I mean, I understand why they benched him. The play was all over the place. We talked about this, right? Right, the tapping out of the game, that's odd too. And I've said it even over the last week on my pod and the flurrio a little bit is just that
Starting point is 00:51:15 there's more than just that. They benched him not only because of some of that stuff, but I don't think he's quite been the day-to-day professional they would like him to be. So this is a little bit of like, hey, set an example, we want you to go back and start acting the right way here and being detailed and doing the things you need to do on a day-to-day, week-to-week basis to be the starting quarterback in the NFL. So there was a little bit of that is why he was also benched by the Indianapolis Colts. And of course they were in the playoff race at four and four when they did it. So I get it.
Starting point is 00:51:49 But now they're going, we lost two games. The offense hasn't looked all that great with Joe Flacco. It certainly has. And the big picture is still we want Anthony Richardson to be the future of our organization. So I think within looking at that, they probably had a meeting Tuesday and went, wait, we can't cut off our nose to spite our face here even though we know Anthony Richardson hasn't done some of the things we'd like him to do he's not a bad guy he likes the game we like him we believe in him he'll clean up some of these things as far as detail on the day-to-day basis and we got to get him out there to play and we're four and six and what are we really expecting to do if we get to the
Starting point is 00:52:24 playoffs or anything anyways? Come on, they're not that kind of team. So I think it is the right decision to go back with him. And I think if you look at it last two weeks, I'm not so sure, hey, they're every bit as dangerous with him at quarterback. Yeah, they might be a little more surgical with Flacco, but Anthony Richards' ability to make big plays,
Starting point is 00:52:41 which he does every game with his right arm, it might be three or four, but it's wow. And then his running coupled with Jonathan Taylor. I think all of that they just looked at it and said, let's go back to what our future is and what we're looking at big picture of our organization. Chris, I thought they never should have went away from Anthony Richardson. I remember you saying that. Yeah, I'm wondering what it does to the rest of the
Starting point is 00:53:00 team, the rest of that locker room when you have a coach who comes out and he says with all that bluster and he says, hey, this guy, he's our quarterback, Flacco for the remainder of the team, the rest of that locker room when you have a coach who comes out and he says with all that bluster and he says, hey, this guy, he's our quarterback Flacco for the remainder of the year and then two weeks later, he changes his tune and it's back to Anthony Richardson. Does that impact the rest of the guys on the team? I don't think it does. I think one, they're going to look at it and go, okay, I'm glad that they, you know, gave Anthony Richardson a little bit of a slap on the wrist for being late to meetings
Starting point is 00:53:27 or being late to rehab or whatever else. Again, I don't think this is a guy that's disliked at all on their football team. It's a guy that I just think people in the locker room looked at to go, he could step it up a little bit as far as being the quarterback of our team and doing all the little things that all quarterbacks do in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:53:45 So I think that's where the team is going to look at that. They know he's the big picture. The coach, when you make a quarterback change like that, too, you've got to make a definitive statement like that to a degree. And the locker room knows that, too. I mean, they can't say, hey, we're going to go with Joe, and we'll just see how he plays this week.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And if it's not good, we'll take his ass out too. I mean, that doesn't do any good either. So sometimes coach speak gets, you know, coaches in trouble. But I think, you know, these guys know what's going on there and they understand it. And they saw the way Joe Placco played the last two weeks to go, OK, wait, we're not that much better or maybe we're worse with Flacco. Let's go with Anthony Richardson and and hopefully he gets better at the things we've talked about.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Sims, it's a question I didn't think I'd be asking you. But they asked Aaron Rodgers if he was coming back next year. And he says, yeah, I think so. My question is, do I want him back? Is that something I should want him to come back? Yeah, but it has to be like, you got to, we almost need to get a contract written up and like going like, no, you need to do this, this,
Starting point is 00:54:49 and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and then we'll let you back on the football team. Because like, if you're going to come back, like you don't get to run the show anymore. We don't run your offense anymore. Your offense sucks. It's sucky ducky.
Starting point is 00:55:04 We've seen that. So yeah, you can come back, but we're hiring an offensive coordinator that we think is best for our team. And you're not going to run any of the fucking plays you like. They're going to run the plays we like. No more screen to Devante, and then screen to Garrett, and then screen to Breece Hall, and then three yard slant
Starting point is 00:55:21 to Breece Hall, and then three yard slant to Garrett Wilson. Like, that's got to change. that's where you don't want him right this is my big thing in my quarterback rankings I took a lot of crap for saying he was the 14th quarterback best quarterback in football the way it looks like I should have made him lower I don't know what do you want to say that was my thing he can't play the way he thinks he can play he thought he was gonna dance around and do all this crap that he's been doing his whole career. He hasn't done that in three years, let alone coming off an Achilles
Starting point is 00:55:49 injury. So yeah, if he does come back, it's gotta be like the sheriff comes into town and goes, hey, hey, hey, no, no, no, like almost a little bit like Kubiak with Peyton Manning in the last year. Remember that? Yes. We know you have a million ways to throw 90 million screens and short passes to make your stats look good. But that ain't doing **** when it comes time for the playoffs. We're gonna be tough. We're gonna run the ball.
Starting point is 00:56:12 You're not gonna call your ninth screen check to Wes Welker out here. We're gonna do that and we're gonna play that way and I feel like that's what it will have to be with Aaron Rodgers at this point if you want him back, Mikey A
Starting point is 00:56:29 Chris Brock Purdy's had a pretty good year that seems starting to get healthy. I know you love that team I know you love that coach You're not gonna be surprised if that team beats the Lions NFC championship gamer makes it that far I guess is what I'm saying I wouldn't be shocked if they made it that far if you had to ask me right now I'd go no They're not gonna make it that far with the they have a little bit of the disease of get up right now, I'd go, no, they're not going to make it that far. They have a little bit of the disease of f**k it up right now. Whether it's Miss Fieldgold letting up a big kick return, a big punt return, we're in a shootout with the Chiefs and we're about to score and we fumble on the four yard line going in.
Starting point is 00:56:57 They've had a lot of that this year. We're blowing out the Seattle Seahawks on a Thursday night. Oh, no, now they ran a 105 yard kick return back for a touchdown. We're in a football game all of a sudden. They just been a little sloppy, but their top end quality play, Stugats, is worthy of that. When they play really good, yeah, I would not be shocked if they go to the NFC championship.
Starting point is 00:57:19 McCaffrey changes their team. You saw their explosive. They're all going to get better running the ball with them. Last week was all pass game. Anddy to your point has been better this year than last year in my opinion. Wow. You know, as far as making plays happen that aren't necessarily there to be had all the time. I've done more on his own this year and that's what I've like big throws scramble by time scramble, right?
Starting point is 00:57:42 Whatever all of that. That's where he's, you know, picked it up a notch in my opinion. Chris, you guys got to had a good Sunday Night Football game last week this week. Yeah, not a bad one in the Bengals and the Chargers, but yeah, four o'clock. We have a battle of big dogs. We have the Chiefs and we have the Bills.
Starting point is 00:58:00 What a weekend. Feel like this is a who's whose game for the AFC. Well, yeah, you got Raven Steelers in one, right? You got that one at 425. And hey, I think our game is damn good. I do. The Bengals, we know. It's desperation time.
Starting point is 00:58:14 The Chargers, nobody's given them the credit they deserve. Their defense is awesome. But I don't think people really understand it or don't want to give it credit because they've had an easy schedule to this point to a degree. I think it's going to be a fun game on Sunday night. And I think this is the cool thing. And you've seen this a little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Joe Burrow is the best zone quarterback in football. The Chargers love to play zone. Nobody scored more than 20 points against the Chargers this year. So I expect Joe Burrow, if the Chargers play their zones and as awesome as they are, that still pick them apart. I think they'll go plus 20 points, but I still just don't trust that Bengals defense.
Starting point is 00:58:50 That's the issue there. So I'm gonna take the Chargers, I think, in a close one, but I could see the upset happening. The Bills, the Bills Chiefs game, it's gonna be really damn good. I'm leaning Chiefs, you know, and for these reasons. The Chiefs, they got a big offensive line, even though Pacheco's not there, you know, and for these reasons, the chiefs, they got a big offensive line, even though Pacheco's not there, you got to worry about their run,
Starting point is 00:59:09 they'll stay patient and consistent with it. Normally, in those type of situations, these are the teams that give the the Bills problems on defense. The Bills are not real big on their front seven, so then they have to flood people in the box to slow that down, and then that leads it to favorable looks in the pass game. The Bills aren't good at man to man. They play a lot of zone and Andy Reed and Mahomes are great at spreading these zones out and finding Travis Kelsey wide open in the end zone, like the divisional playoff game last year. So I look at that. And then I also worry about Billy, the injuries a little bit on the Bill's offense.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Keon Coleman and Amari Cooper, like, if they're not playing, I don't think they're gonna be able to move the ball consistently on the Chiefs. I'm gonna take the Chiefs to win on the road in a close one, but I think it'll be a fun one for sure. Billy, I couldn't help but notice you, you threw the term big dog in there in that question. Yeah, big dogs.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Were you trying to uh to hint at something there? Uh not just I feel like Chris, I I'll I'll come clean. I'll tell you. So, last uh Sunday, we were in Arizona and we were doing a uh watch along for the Jets and the uh the Cardinals game. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Sam's when he's done when he's done telling you this, you'll want to be on the grassy knoll throwing footballs in his face. Go ahead. No, that's not true. So that's you. God's will regularly brag to us about like, oh, I have Josh Allen's number. Oh, I have Baker Mayfield's number. Oh, he starts throwing these things around. So as we're as we're doing the show, we're like, just, you know, so text Josh, like,
Starting point is 01:00:38 hey, or it wasn't Josh. It was a text. Like, hey, it was Baker at first. You're like, hey, just text Baker like, hey, hang in there, big dog, it was a good game. It was a good loss for Baker last week. Keep your head up, big dog, and he refused to do so. And then we said, okay, then text Josh. You're so good friends with these people. Text Josh, be like, hey, good game, big dog,
Starting point is 01:00:58 big win there for you, right? Refused to do it. So then Charles Barkley showed up, and we're like, hey, just say, hey, Chuck, how's it going big dog? Cause he has this, he maintains this thing that no one likes being called big dog. And I said, that's absolutely not the case.
Starting point is 01:01:10 People like it if they're big dogs, they like being called big dog. Well, yeah, I don't know. There's nothing bad about it. I don't think there's anything bad. That's what I'd say. Yeah, and that's all that happens. Well, now you know why you got the text.
Starting point is 01:01:21 You seem intent on the word big dog and reaching out to these guys. He can't just say, hey, great game. He doesn't. He has to say big dog. Yeah, but after all that, you said, after all that, the person he was willing to call big dog was you. He was going to text you now. Hey, Sims, have a good show today. Big dog. Yeah, Bill. It doesn't count. No, no, Billy said that, but Stu said he was going to text you right. Big dog on there. I don't remember. You're right. Having a show. Big. It was totally insincere. I got one which I thought was so random, but now is explaining that now is making sense. It was insincere. Five 30 on a Sunday afternoon. It was like, good luck. Big five thirty. Yes. On a Sunday afternoon. It was like good
Starting point is 01:02:07 luck. Big dog with the show. Good luck. And I was like, big dog. Who the **** are you and what did you do with Billy? Where where who are you? I'm just supportive. I'm trying to I'm trying to have us to have this good, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:19 relationship headed into our travel show together. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Okay. Big dog. Big dog. Uh big dog. Are the Cardinals for real? I mean, the Cardinals are like for real as far as a playoff team. Yes, right. I don't think they have some of the high end players you need to like make a run in the playoffs but the way Kyler Murray's playing, they're creative in the run game and the pass game. You see they know how to use this Trey McBride
Starting point is 01:02:42 and Marvin Harrison Jr and do all that. James Connors damn good the defense the same thing A lot of good. There's just not enough great, but I think yes, they're good enough to be in the playoffs That's for sure Stu gots But this is why I was being on like don't make a trade before the trade deadline or do that It's so set up for them to really take their team to another level this offseason with some of the draft picks They have some of the money they're gonna have and I think they're gonna be able to add to their their team to another level this off season with some of the draft picks they have, some of the money they're going to have. And I think they're going to be able to add to their football
Starting point is 01:03:09 team to where next year when we're doing a show in like May and you go, hey, who's a team that you think is going to be like really good and surprise people this year? I'm going to go, I think it's the Arizona Cardinals. Look what they did in free agency in the draft. They already had a good nucleus. Watch out for them this year. They're close. They're one more offseason away from me going, woo, watch out for the Cardinals and what they got on both sides of the ball. Chris, if we assume the Jets job will
Starting point is 01:03:34 be open, it is open, the Jacksonville job is going to be open, the Bears, Cowboys. Which of those jobs, if you were a potential head coach, would you most want? The Bears would be up there. Yeah, they would have to be. I'd probably want the Bears. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I just think there's a lot of young talent on the football. The
Starting point is 01:03:56 Jets are just so many things. Right. And as the Aaron Rogers thing and all of that where it's just like, I don't know. I don't. And you got a few players who are, yeah, due to make some big contracts and some older players, you're gonna have to make some decisions on
Starting point is 01:04:09 on whether you wanna keep them going forward, all that. Yeah, I look at the Bears as having the best nucleus with that quarterback, DJ Moore, Adunze, Colcomet, they need some improvements on the O line, but there's some pieces there on the defense too. That would be the team I would look at. Too many unknowns with some of the other stuff and yeah, Dallas has got a lot of work to do. I think that's the one. I think that would be the one. Chicago for sure. Do
Starting point is 01:04:37 you think the guy that most teams are are going to want is Ben Johnson? Is that the guy or is it Belichick? No, I think I think it's Ben Johnson. I think it's gonna be, you know, what do I wanna say? Taster's choice with Belichick. Like I could see a lot of teams just go, no f**king way do we wanna deal with that, blah, blah, blah, we're not doing that.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And then he might just have one or two teams that are like, no, we want you, right? I go to, this is to me, I know Bill Belichick's out there. I get it. Right. I'd, I'd want Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel be the guy that I would want over everybody. That'd be number one on my list. I had a Ben Johnson. Right. Yeah. Ben Johnson's right there. I think he's the next guy you look at and he's the guy that makes the most sense to me when I think of Chicago and go, oh, what do they want to do and help Caleb Williams out and all that that
Starting point is 01:05:28 makes a lot of sense there. I feel like I'm missing some people like I've told you. I think in the past Todd Monkin, I think deserves some talk in this conversation. The defensive coordinator for the Chargers, Jesse Minner is going to be involved in this conversation a little bit. You know, those are some of the names that really pop out to me right off the top of my head. The Chargers are sneaky good, huh? The Chargers are sneaky good.
Starting point is 01:05:50 The thing that's holding them back is the fact that people haven't got to see them on the national stage a whole lot. And like I said, that early, that the schedule they've had, I don't think people have bought into, oh wow, they're actually good. People are just going, oh, they're beating the teams they're supposed to have bought into, oh, wow, they're actually good. People are just going, oh, they're beating the teams they're supposed to beat. I get that, no, they're good.
Starting point is 01:06:09 The defense is really damn good. The Deion Henley, their middle linebacker, he is phenomenal. He's one of the better linebackers in football. Their D-lines got everything. They're secondary smart. They got really good safeties. They're bagged up at corner, so they're playing some young guys right now. But then yeah, the offensive side of the ball, they remind me of my dad's late 80s
Starting point is 01:06:29 New York Giants. Yes. Like it's like you saw last week, it's Justin Herbert, 15 for 18. And like four or five of those throws are big throws that change the football game. That's kind of how my dad and them used to play. That's the way it was. Defense, run the ball. Oh wait, you're cheating on the run.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Oh, Big Phil's gonna throw a 30 yard throw to Mark Ingram or Steven Baker or Mark Bavaro right here and change the field position. That's the way it goes. And it's a tough formula to defend. They're playing damn good football. I got a little crush on the Chargers, Dugats. So do I.
Starting point is 01:07:01 They're a good team. They're well-coached. We'll get you out of here in just a second. PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock, the Unbuttoned podcast, football night in America. Raven Steelers, Lamar has struggled with Pittsburgh. The Ravens have struggled against Mike Tomlin. What are you thinking in that game? Such a big game. Such a great game. Oh, it is. It's going to be an awesome game. I am pumped for it. Yeah, the Steelers know how to defend Lamar, even though Lamar hasn't played
Starting point is 01:07:25 him all that much, right? Think about how long he's been there. He's one in three. He's only played four times. He's always hurt. This is a different Baltimore team than ever before though. This is the best offense Baltimore has ever had, ever. I know Lamar's first full year as a starter when he won the MVP. I know Lamar's first full year as a starter when he won the MVP. They were really good. Don't get me wrong here, but that was more of a system taking a league by storm and people like, wait, I don't know how to defend him and the run and all this they're doing, right? This is like they can do whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:07:58 They can run it. He can run it and he can absolutely dice you up in the pass game. Now, I do think Pittsburgh will be able to contain him maybe a little bit from some of the scrambling and all that, but there's just too many weapons I think he has right now. And I just don't know, do I think Pittsburgh can keep pace, right? This Baltimore defense stinks. It stinks. But I don't know if I think Pittsburgh can just outscore Baltimore that way.
Starting point is 01:08:22 I got to see a little more from that Pittsburgh offense. It's been better. I like what Russell Wilson's doing all that but I'm gonna I'm gonna I took the Ravens twenty-eight twenty-four just because and I think it'll be a fun game. I just feel like that Ravens offense is pretty damn special and I gotta see the Steelers win those kind of game one of those games with their offense first before I buy into it. I'm not betting money on that one, but I'm taking the Ravens. Me
Starting point is 01:08:47 and Billy were trying to argue earlier this week with Levitore that the Dolphins are back in the mix. Are the Dolphins back in the mix? They're in the mix. They are. They're going to run here. It's going to be tough, right?
Starting point is 01:08:59 I think that that seventh seed in the AFC playoffs though is still there and up for grabs, right? Like, I think that will be and continue to be here throughout the year. So we'll see where it goes in that department, but let me see. Let me just, I just want to do this, pull up their schedule. It's tough. Nonetheless, just a little, little feel for it. It's pretty easy. You can put them at five and six right now, Sims. I mean.
Starting point is 01:09:22 No, but they have, they have the Texans, they have the Packers, they have the 49ers. The Raiders and Patriots will know how to defend them. They will, and it won't look as pretty as you think. But I do think, like you're saying, Stugats will win the next two. But then after that, yeah, I don't know if I'm ready to say they can make the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:09:43 but I think they'll make a strong push. And I think for that seventh spot, my point is, is that nine and eight, I think, is eventually going to get you in there. And it might be them and the Broncos and the Bengals and the Colts all jumbled up for that last spot to kind of make it happen. So they got a shot.
Starting point is 01:09:58 They're alive. Their defense is better than I gave it credit for. The offense, we'll see. Again, like I said, I still got questions on whether I think this can really work with this current formula and how they're playing right now. All right, last one for me. I'm sorry, go ahead, Billy. Go ahead, Billy.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I was gonna say it seems Chris like teams have figured out if you just don't let Tyreek get behind you, you can let John Smith get 40, 50, 60 yards a game and you'll be perfectly fine. It doesn't matter. That, that, that's kind of it. And I think even to couple that or even accentuate what you're saying there, don't let them get behind you. And really the big thing is that I think C teams, because like, right, we're not too
Starting point is 01:10:36 with throwing 60 yard bombs is not necessarily on everybody's mind when you play them. I think the biggest thing is you see them taking away him catching balls like 12 to 15 yards down the middle of the field on the run, right? If you think of all the crazy dolphin plays, it's him or Waddle like 15 yards over the middle on the run, great throw, accurate and zoom and then they carve through the defense, right? We haven't seen that in a while. And I think that's where most teams are going. We take away that, we'll deal with some of most teams are going. We take away that, we'll deal with some of the other stuff and a run here and that but there are different
Starting point is 01:11:09 offense that way and I think you know you're spot on there Billy. Chris if the Lions played the Chiefs right now who would you take? The Lions. Really? I would take the Lions. It wouldn't be easy but I would. I think the Lions are like arguably the toughest matchup in football for the Chiefs. I think that'd be the one team in the Super Bowl. I think if they play I'm like, Oh, I don't know. I just think there's a little too much offense and too many answers everywhere. And even though their defense isn't great, their game plan specific and the Chiefs just don't have a
Starting point is 01:11:47 lot of answers on the offensive side of the ball. Yeah, I think I'd probably take, I'd probably take the Lions in that one. Chris, when we were watching the game last week, the Lions and the Texans that you guys covered, one of the things that I obviously don't know as much as you, but one of the things that I saw that was like, oh, like this is different and it sounds stupid and simple is okay
Starting point is 01:12:08 So if the Lions are gonna kick field goals instead of going for it on fourth down and just take the points They could they could run through the playoffs and not shoot themselves in the foot make being overly aggressive Dan and Campbell and running themselves out of games. They don't need to be that aggressive, right? Yeah, don't right Right. And that and of course, I was not a fan of what they did in the NSC Championship game. And I think they found to me the right touch this year, as far as when to be aggressive and when to go, no, let's just kick the field goal or punt here. Let's not do that. I'm always in favor, Billy of
Starting point is 01:12:40 when you're the better team or you're the best team, just keep playing football. Don't make it all about one play. The cream will rise to the top, right? The more we play, our team's better. The more plays we have against each other, the better team will show out and win that football game. So yeah, I'm not into these, a lot of these teams with these, I'm going to win the game on this play. And I want to go, you can't win the game on this play, but you can lose the game on this play. And I want to go, you can't win the game on this play, but you can lose the game on this play, you f*****g idiots, with your aggressive, I got to be aggressive,
Starting point is 01:13:08 they don't look so be aggressive, right? And that's what they did last year. That's what they did. They weren't going to win the game if they got the first down, but you can talk to the 49ers and they'll all go, we can't believe they went for it there. Thank God they did it. It gave us a second wind in that game and gave us a chance.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And I don't think he'll do it that way this year. They're phenomenal. They got it there. Thank God they did it. It gave us a second wind in that game and gave us a chance. And I don't think he'll do it that way this year. They're phenomenal. They got it all and even like come on what they did in that game the other night got unlucky tip pass interceptions, right? Houston still got issues as you can see, but to be down like that, they don't panic and they just go, hey, we got a whole second half to play and if we just play good football, we're better than them. We don't need to take any chances and you saw that and they came right
Starting point is 01:13:48 back and beat him. I've never been more wrong about thinking whether or not a head coach would be great or not. Like I didn't think Dan Campbell would be this good, Chris. Did you? No, I mean, no, not this good. Not not this good. I knew he had some traits to be an incredible leader and a communicator. I I'd heard enough about him heard enough about him through the years, of course, because I hear about anybody in the Parcells coaching train. I always know the dirt on those guys.
Starting point is 01:14:14 So yeah, he was part of the Parcells and Sean Payton group there and all that. And I had always heard about what a football guy is, what a great talker and communicator and leader he is. And, you know, he's not just some raw dumb being tight end meathead who, who puts a dip in his mouth and like he's smart. He knows what buttons to push. He's he's been absolutely phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:14:37 He's like a, he's the offensive version of Mike Vrabel. That's what I look at him as. Yeah. Right. Yeah. He played offense. It's tough mother you don't want to with but he's got a little personality and Vrabel's like, I'm a defensive guy. My personality is not the same. My personality is I look at you and you get scared. That's what
Starting point is 01:14:55 it is, but it's still the same way hands on great motivator know how to talk to their guys very similar that way. I love coaches like that. The players feel like they're playing in the game with them. You know, it's exactly right. Yes, that's what it is. Right. And you gotta have the right touch, right? You gotta have the right touch because we've seen some of these ex player guys, whatever not work and I think sometimes maybe they're
Starting point is 01:15:16 two player friendly or it's too much about just talk and motivation all the time. There's gotta be a little bit of both there and I think Dan Campbell Campbell and Vrabel really got that. All right. PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock, the Unbuttoned podcast as well. Football Night in America. They have the Bengals and the Chargers coming up this Sunday night. This was a pleasure. I mean, Aliens, JFK conspiracies. What an episode. We hit it all. We hit it all. I'm very happy about it.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Yeah. You just let me know. Anytime you want to dive into more some JFK stuff, let me know. But yeah, it's it's crazy, man. I got so many great stories for you that are like documented. It's it's phenomenal. You want you also have a lot of work before we see you next week. You have two pitches to make on behalf of you and Billy for a couple of shows. I'm working on that. I'm going to get back to Chris when we're good. Don't worry. I'm working. I'll handle that Chris I got you. You better be paying me a lot because that sounds a lot of wasting my time No, peacock will pay you don't worry. Not me. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. We'll put it on their tab Did I hear you guys analyzing and discussing football? Do we still do that on this show? You know what? Our apologies. Yeah. I don't know what got into us. You know, that's what happens when you guys aren't around, when you're not around.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Exactly. It's very serious around here. Is that a bad thing? Because I mean, technically, it's called God Bless Football. But if either Funk or I are on the show, obviously, we're not going to be discussing football at all. We're just going to be insulting people the whole time. Yeah, that's the way we like it.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Don't change a thing. It's funny you should mention him, because I'm getting a little concerned because K-Funk is always the first one to arrive and he's always the one kind of rounding up the troops and he's nowhere to be found today, which we did have something planned for him that fell through but regardless, I legitimately do not know where K-Funk is. I texted him, where are you? And he hasn't responded so I don't know what's going on with him today. I'm a little bit concerned.
Starting point is 01:17:25 And here's the worst part about it. He actually had a winning week last week. The first time he's had one in about a month and a half and he's not here to even celebrate it. Well, I was wondering about that too. Cause I figured he would have came on to like talk trash or celebrate. I mean, I did give him a gift.
Starting point is 01:17:42 I picked him winners. Now I didn't give him a four and oh or a 4-1 or a 5-0 week. I made it the smallest margin of a winning week as I possibly could. So, Mojo, just so we're clear, you went into it trying to give him a 3-2 week so he could feel good about it, right? Correct. That's exactly what was happening.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I was actually starting to get concerned about his, uh... his mental well-being, you know? I think that's something we were gonna have to discuss on about his, his mental well-being, you know? I think that's something we were gonna have to discuss on this show, but I figured it was time to give him a win, to make him a winner, because obviously he's incapable of doing that himself. Right, that was very nice of you.
Starting point is 01:18:16 He's a great guy, what a great guy. Yeah, I'm a great guy. I feel like you giving him three and two is like the Jets win against the Texans, and I can't wait for him to get his ass kicked next week like the Jets did with the Cardinals. Like it's all just here's a little bit of hope, here's a little bit of hope, let's just go ahead and snatch it away. That that that pic really blew up in your face though Mojo. Yeah, you tried it.
Starting point is 01:18:40 You told me that me and my brother could kiss your ass and you're getting revenge for me taking your 24 seven championship when we were in WWE. Yeah, that really blew up. Well, that goes back to my earlier point, Rollis. I mean, that was actually a double win for me because it allowed me to give Funko win which he desperately needed but it also gave me the opportunity to bury you so that that was kind of like a double whammy for me. Well I appreciate it I mean it worked out for me so.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Closing the gap buddy. Yeah. Billy what are the records right now for the season. So Mojo still in first place with a 607 win percentage he went down a little bit he had a two and three week but he went down a little bit he had a 2 and 3 week but he's still leading the pack here. How about that first place and he gave K-Funk a week I mean amazing. He did. What a guy. Next amongst the regulars is Carl who's 26 19 and 1 had a 2 and 3 week also but still has a 5 76 win percentage. Now, shooting up the standings is Mike Rollis,
Starting point is 01:19:45 who now is one game under 500 at 17 and 18. Wow. He's past Share Bear. Share Bear is 21, 28 and two with a 431 win percentage. And then K-Funk last week after his big three and two week jumped over Gordy. So K-Funk is 18, 33 and two, and Gordy is 18,31 and two at the moment.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Right. Poor Gordy. He's a baseball guy. Yeah. Gordy? Yeah. He's the equivalent of when we had Jabba on the show for so long. I mean, you can't rip a baseball guy for not, you know, making good fun of him. Oh no. I'm not ripping him. I love Gordy and Gordy, listen, it doesn't matter if he loses this thing. Gordy's the big winner here. my love, Gordy and Gordy. We all know that it's Gordy So guys, what do we what do there's only six of us. We we could tell stories and
Starting point is 01:20:44 haven't had this since I think I first came on the show. Yeah, I don't know what to do with myself. Uh do you want to make your pegs and just give K Funk the opposite? What do you want to do here? If we are we going
Starting point is 01:20:55 right into picks, I figured Mike Rollins had a good wrestling or football story for us that he could tell. I got to be honest with you. We're a little upset with Mike Rollins because his brother's defense in the okay. Oh You know, I think what what happens is his brother actually listens to this show
Starting point is 01:21:17 Yeah, when we talk trash about his defense That's when he makes sure that they give up like two and a half points and just shut everything down. And when, when we praise him, you know, he, he lets his foot off the gas. I think that's how he's been coaching the Arizona Cardinals. Is that right, Mike? Can you confirm that? That could be the case. Uh, he doesn't respond to texts during season very often. So if he's got enough time to listen to God bless football And not even respond to me We might have an issue, but it is the bye week this week. So we're chilling in Arizona a little bit Oh, I want you to make a ruling on this. We need you to make a ruling on this
Starting point is 01:21:54 We're gonna start this without K func. Okay, I'm not waiting here. Okay, like so Carl from a legal standpoint I'm gonna let mojo pick and K funFunk gets the opposite of what Mojo picks. Is there anything K-Funk can do to us next week, because you know he's gonna be upset about it. Is there anything that he can do next week that will erase what's happening this week? The only thing I would think he could do would be the next week he picks and gives Mojo his picks, the opposite of his picks. I'm okay with that any week. I accept. the that if he has a bad record, he can make that bad record go away by bringing on Berlander and Kate Upton. One one alone is not
Starting point is 01:22:51 enough. No, one alone is not enough. So, are you good with this arrangement? Is that are you okay with this? Yeah, that works for me. Yeah. Okay. Carl, are you good with this arrangement? If he if he if he can do that, that's fine with
Starting point is 01:23:03 me. I want to see him. If he can do that, that's fine with me. I want to see Kate myself. Okay, Mojo. Not Berlander, huh? Mojo, are you okay with this arrangement? I will forever be okay with any arrangement that allows me to pick opposite of Kay Funk's picks. It's a guaranteed
Starting point is 01:23:23 minimum four in one week for me. So, that's how bad he is. Alright, but you're making the I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm
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Starting point is 01:23:35 not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not
Starting point is 01:23:39 sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm pathetic, right? I don't even feel bad talking trash about him. He's not even here. I'll never come back if he stays in last place.
Starting point is 01:23:47 I'll never come back. You have the power to keep him happy, Mojo. Give him another three and two this week. I mean. Damn it. All right, fine. He also, by the way, as I mentioned before, he jumped over Gordy.
Starting point is 01:23:59 So Gordy, while having an off season, really is doing a service to K-Funk and his mental wellbeing by having a worse season than K-Funk. Also, I don't think Gordy cares at all what his record is. a service to kayfunk and his mental well-being by having a worse season than kayfunk Also, I don't think Gordy cares at all what his record is Well, kayfunk cares very much so I don't think Gordy cares about anything Yeah, exactly
Starting point is 01:24:12 I think what Gordy does is he gets the tape and then he plays it in a room full of chicks while he's partying He's like, hey check me out on this cool podcast Yeah To impress him and he uses it as a I bet you any money in the world. That's what's happening. It's a no one checks the results. Or to get out of like parking and speeding tickets with the cops.
Starting point is 01:24:34 And that's why he's prevented them and brought them on the show. I know. I spent a lot of time with Gordon. Yeah. But let me know he's no longer in last place. Yeah, I'll tell him he's not in last place anyway. Mike, by the way, you went hunting. the I probably sat for over 30 hours and I saw about five deer and none of them were shooters as we say. So good time in nature, good reset, you know, good time to let my charge on God bless football here as I come for Mojo. Sink in and get a mental reset but no deer. I'm not gonna let Mojo sink in I'm just saying, I'm just I would have wanted to play basketball. Yeah. You'd be a small basketball player.
Starting point is 01:26:05 I was the shortest guy in the ninth grade, shortest males, and I wanted to be 6'3". I had a good handle, but there you go. Right. It worked out just fine for you, Carl. I gotta be honest. I'm not complaining. All right, Billy, I'm gonna start making picks here,
Starting point is 01:26:22 okay, with the guys, and we'll see what happens for the game, fuck. We have the Ravens at the Steelers. That's the first game this week. I'll give you Share Bear's pick. He took the Steelers. I'll give you Gordy's pick. He also took the Steelers. Ravens at Steelers.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Steelers are plus three. I don't see Mojo there, so I'm gonna go to Carl Douglas first. Carl, who are you taking here? My wife and her entire family are from Pittsburgh, so I'm taking the Steelers this time. All right, you're taking the Steel first. Carl, who are you taking here? My wife and her entire family are from Pittsburgh. So, I'm taking the Steelers this time. Alright,
Starting point is 01:26:49 you're taking the Steelers. Mike, who do you have here? Yeah, I mean, this is I don't like how chalky it's getting here but uh I gotta go with I can't believe I'm picking Russell Wilson. He's like my sworn enemy. He doesn't know
Starting point is 01:27:02 it but um yeah, I think that home dogs, I'll go Steelers. What's your issue? Why is he used for an enemy? Thank you. Oh, just that, I never really bought into the whole college football rivalry, except with Wisconsin, like I hated Wisconsin so much. And Russell Wilson came in for one year, and I mean, if I'm just gonna be honest,
Starting point is 01:27:21 he absolutely diced us up. He went like 16 of 17 for 250 yards and four TDs or something like that. One time I was blitzed in and he got outside me. I mean, I forced him out of bounds, but he evaded the sack and gained a couple yards. It was it was a rough game. Let it go. Let it go. So you're taking the Steelers.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Hold on to that for life. It's only been 12 years. I can't just let it go. So you're taking the Steelers, you know? Hold on to that for life. It's only been 12 years. I can't just let it go. Alright, so you're taking Russ here, huh? Yeah, I'll take Russ. Alright, Bojo, you are up. K-Fuck gets the opposite. Alright, well I also played against Russell Wilson in college at the University of Maryland and we also taxed that ass and beat the
Starting point is 01:28:05 crap out of him and his team so I obviously cannot pick him and as a Maryland guy you know I'm not picking against Baltimore so I will be taking the Ravens. Funk will be taking the Steelers but seeing as how the other two guys took the Steelers majority says that's the more popular pick so that is the gift for Funk from Mojo. That's why you're good at this. I mean Gordy took the Steelers so. Yeah, that's a bad side. Wait so so so Mojo when you were playing against Russ in college, if I told you then that Russ would turn into this you would have told me what it's
Starting point is 01:28:46 hard to say for a player to become that good at such a high level for that long but I will say I would not be surprised that it happened. Uh we played them. It was a monsoon, man. You couldn't get any traction but I remember it wasn't the best play call but it was, I believe it was like for the game and
Starting point is 01:29:05 he was like going for a Hail Mary. We were, we rushed three when they were protecting with like six or seven. I ended up missing sacking Russ three times in the same play. I just couldn't, I couldn't get there, man. One play. One play, he scrambled. I'm not even kidding when I say it might have been like an 18 second scramble. It was the longest we had the entire season. I mean, granted, we're all getting fricking triple team, but still it was so ridiculous. They had like this offensive tackle that was like six foot nine or 10. He was massive and rust just disappeared behind him. You couldn't see him. Like he's just now. My question is with the advanced statistics,
Starting point is 01:29:47 if you get three pressures on one play for that, you know that like when you get it, he was paying his dad's rebound. What the hell man, he was panning his own stats. That is pressure. Yeah, guy rocketed on Mikey is looking for. I believe Mikey is looking for the play right now. So we can show it.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Did you find that? Ah! Rollins, you had eight tackles the game against for us, not a bad game for you. Okay, yeah, I mean, look, yeah, it didn't go well. I mean, we can promote that box score if we want. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Eight tackles, that's the headline. It went well for you. I know, eight tackles. That's the headline. I mean, when I, at the, on the ESPN article, does it say Rawlis has eight tackles in loss? Is that the, is that the headline? I mean, we could rewrite it that way. By the way, if you want to question whether- Honestly, you know what?
Starting point is 01:30:37 Now that you mentioned it, that was kind of the storyline coming out of that game. Was I had eight tackles. If you did question whether or not he actually considers him his nemesis or not, you were exactly right. He was like 17 of 18 for 178 yards, four touchdowns. And somehow with the four touchdowns, you guys lost 42 to 13.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Yeah, it was rough. I mean, it was like, every time we sat back and cover two, they just like out coached us out played us everything just Diced us up, which is the worst I guess game that you remember Like which do you have the most PTSD from it's not the Russell Wilson game. I mean we got absolutely stomped in Michigan That was probably the worst. I
Starting point is 01:31:23 What was the score? I don't remember. Really? Wow. 55-0 maybe. It was rough. Listen, did Northwestern ever beat Minnesota when you were there? Northwestern did. That was a close one. They had Trevor Simeon. Now you want to talk about, couldn't believe that Trevor Simeon became, I mean, he's been in the league now for like 15 years or something. Crazy. And I think he went one for seven against us and they still beat us 21 to 13. I got a pretty good story I gotta say if we're talking about worst college moments here. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Yeah, go ahead. We're playing Boston College my senior year. We're at Boston College. I'm playing at Maryland. I believe the situation was if we beat them, we would go on to the ACC championship game likely if we took the dub. And I had this awesome play.
Starting point is 01:32:19 I split a double team, tackled for loss, forced fumble. We recover. And it was going like seal the deal and instead the ref called the running backs knee down and it was total bullsh** like it was so obvious. I don't know why the coach didn't throw the flag maybe he didn't get it out in time. The next play they take it in for a score that wins the game right? So we go from going to the ACC championship game, instead dropping all the way down to go to the roadies, truck stop, humanitarian bowl in Boise, Idaho.
Starting point is 01:32:55 I was so pissed off, right? It was like my hero moment just ripped away from me. And we're going to the fricking toilet bowl, literally afterwards. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, this day cannot get any worse. And I go back to my locker and the team all showers and they're all getting in the bus. I'm the last one to get in the showers, right? And I'm just so pissed off and, uh, empty shower well, mind you,
Starting point is 01:33:16 there's no one else showering in there but me. And then all of a sudden, I don't know if y'all remember Ralph region. Oh yeah. and empty shower well, mind you, there's no one else showering in there but me. And then all of a sudden, I don't know if y'all remember Ralph Regen. Oh yeah. Yeah, big fridge. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Walks in, butt naked, takes the shower right next to me. As soon as I got in, hadn't soaked up, nothing, stank as hell, playing in the mud, immediately just walked out of the shower, refused to be in that situation. So had to fly all the way home, smelling like ass after having my dreams torn out. That was the dumps for me.
Starting point is 01:33:56 That was my worst college moment. Smell like ass, put that on the podcast. So the quarterback in the game, you guys lost 58 to nothing was Denard Robinson, but he was one of three quarterbacks the I enjoyed it, Mike. All right, let's get to the next game here. We have Browns at Saints. Saints are minus one. Gordy has taken the Saints here. Share Bear has also taken the Saints. I'm going to go to you first, Mike.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Mike, who are you taking here? Browns at Saints. Saints minus one at home. I mean, just to diversify a little bit here and give myself some insurance. I can't pick the same as Gordy again. I mean, that's just way too risky. So I'm going Jamis, Jamis Winston revenge game. I think he lights them up.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Wow. I like that. Carl Douglas, who you taking here? Browns at Saints, Saints minus one. I've already made my pick before hearing about Gordy, but I'm going with the Saints as well. Okay. You're taking the Saints. Mojo, who are you taking here? Well, I just arrived at a new strategy here instantaneously if K-Funk takes all of Gord's picks then there's
Starting point is 01:35:11 no way he can get last place for the yeah done it's true yep so I feel like that's a good friend move to make all right so have K-Funk go opposite Gordy no no no to take all of Gord's picks. Okay. Exactly. He's slightly ahead of Gordy right now, I think, by a game. Alright. So he's got to have to pass him at some point in time. So is that what you want to do? But then that leaves, what do we do with you? So are you taking opposite Gordy if K-Funk's taking all the same as Gordy? Ooh, that's a good point too. For fun, let's, I'll take the Browns for this one. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:48 All right, you'll take the Browns, okay. Keep in mind, we want K-Funk to have a bad week here because we wanna give him the ability to erase it, to have Berlander and Uptedon, right? Yeah. Okay. He's been promising that for three years, man. It ain't happening.
Starting point is 01:36:01 We gotta find somebody else. Wait until you throw an 0-5 in his face and see what the f*** happens. We also, you mean again, we had something cooking for Kayfun to try to kind of get his mentals up so it would be good if uh if we do get that guest next week if he's coming off of a bad week. So many storylines there's a lot of ways we can go here. Poor Kayfun I'm worried about him he. So many storylines. There's a lot of ways we can go here. Uh poor
Starting point is 01:36:26 Cape. I'm worried about him. He's never missed a segment. Uh let's go to uh chiefs at Bills. Uh big game this weekend Chiefs at Bills. Uh the games in Buffalo. Uh we have Gordy taking the Bills here minus two. We have Share Bear taking
Starting point is 01:36:40 the Chiefs here plus two. Uh Carl Douglas. I'll start with you. Chiefs at Bills, bills minus two at home. I said it once, I'll say it again. I'm not going against the Chiefs. Yeah. I'll take the points. All right. Mike Rollins, who you taking here? Yeah, they got, it confirms after last week,
Starting point is 01:36:59 they got some black magic going on over there. I don't know if it's Taylor Swift or Mahomes or Andy Reid or what, but God, the Chiefs is underdogs. You gotta go Chiefs. It's crazy Chiefs underdog Mojo. Who are you taking here? Gosh man. Chiefs got the best referees in all of football. So that's helpful. Now I'm looking at this from a storyline perspective guys, they got to lose at some point, right? I mean that keeps the fans on your side. You can't just go on to feed it all year.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Everybody will hate you. That doesn't help the NFL if everyone starts to turn on their babies. They need everyone to like this Taylor Swift relationship. And if there was a team to knock them off, I mean, the Bills certainly qualify to be that team. So that being said, I guess I got to stick with
Starting point is 01:37:48 the previous strategy of keeping K-Funk ahead of Gord. Gord can take the bills and I'll take the chiefs. Let's go to the next game here. Bengals at Chargers. Chargers, they're playing well, minus one and a half. Share Bear took the Chargers. Gordy took the Bengals. Mike Rollins, who you taking here? Bengals at Chargers, Chargers minus one and a half.
Starting point is 01:38:12 This is a really tough one. If you look at the Chargers wins this year, it's almost like the bottom of the draft, like the start of the draft order. Like they have hardly beaten a team that has more than two wins. Yeah. But they are playing good ball. I mean, since it's a toss up for me, I'll go with, I'll take the game. They're in draft order like they have hardly beaten a team that has more than two wins. Yeah. But they are playing good ball. I mean, it's since it's a toss up for
Starting point is 01:38:30 me, I'll go with I'll take the points. I'll go Chargers. Okay, uh Carl Douglas. Who you taking here? Mike has said everything I wanted to say. It's a tough game. I think the Charger defense will come through. I'm a Ram fan but I'll take the
Starting point is 01:38:43 Chargers and give me the points. Alright, I like it Carl. Uh Mojo, who you taking here? I'm not a fan but I'll take the Chargers and give me the points. Alright, I like it Carl. Uh Mojo, who you taking here? I'm a man of my word. I said I wasn't picking the Bungles at all this year. Plus, I just interviewed Sean Merriman for TMZ Sports uh just an hour ago.
Starting point is 01:38:58 So, I am going to take the Chargers. Um plus, Gord, I think took the Bungles too. So, give Funk those guys. Did you invite Merriman on the podcast? Just I think that would be a good edition for the show actually. I agree. Uh let's get on that. as as a for the Jets fans, is
Starting point is 01:39:14 there a preferred winner here? This is a big uh you know, this is a big wildcard picture game, you know, I want the uh I would want the Bengals to win, right? Okay. Let's have a worst record. We ever worse record. Yeah, Bengals. Yeah, but you could you could also argue you want to let the chargers take like the five or six seed and get the Bengals further to the back of the line.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Yeah, I'd rather get the Bengals to to four and seven. I think which one gives me hope because that's the one I don't want. I don't want any more hope. Right. Fair enough. Wait, where's the AFC wild card at right now? The Broncos I think are the 7 seed at like 5 and 5. So 5 and 5. I see what you're saying. So you get, you just kind of concede that the Chargers, so they get to 7 and 3, right, and then the Jets even if they win they're at 4 and 7. You're chasing 5 and 5. the the
Starting point is 01:40:07 the the the the the the the I mean, he really is. Just to hear, just to hear, to go through that analysis, he's brain working and **** Oh my
Starting point is 01:40:29 god. It's been my entire life is me trying to figure out in the three and seven Jets will make it to the playoffs. I get it. I get it. Unbelievable. No. Alright, final game here. Texans at Cowboys. Cowboys, they're real and they're
Starting point is 01:40:41 injured plus seven and a half. Uh Gordy took the Cowboys here. Uh taken to Texans. Share Bear also took the Cowboys at home, taking on the Texans. Carl Douglas, Texans at Cowboys. Cowboys plus seven and a half, what you got? I've always learned from this show that you always take the points, winneth a lot of points, but I hate the Cowboys, I'll take the Texans. Dadaboy, you learned nothing.
Starting point is 01:41:03 I hate the Cowboys. Mike, who are you taking? I'm going with the Texans too. the Texas. You learn nothing. Mike, who you taking? I'm going with the Texans too. I think CJ Stroud comes back a little pissed off and dices them up. Okay. Mojo, final pick here. Who you taking? You lost him for a second. To keep with the
Starting point is 01:41:19 theme here, Funk will take the Cowboys and I will take the Texans. Okay, wonderful. Let's all pray for K-Funk. We hope he the you have anything to promote on the way out? Yeah, Rawliss Regimen. Head there for your customized workout program. We'll get you feeling the best shape of your life. All right, awesome. Carl Douglas, promote that big, beautiful law firm out in LA for us. The one and only Douglas Hicks Law in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Yeah. Can we get Hicks on someday? Sure, I'll get Hicks. Let's get Hicks. Thank you. Let's get Hicks on. Mojo, promote only the way Mojo can promote on the way out. Well guys we got the best one today and that's that's Mojo's company Paragon Talent Group, who represents over 350 of the top athletes and celebrities in the world for all kinds of opportunities, branding and appearances and autograph signings, contracts, literally all of the things. So if y'all need a boost, get a boys at Paragon and call and let us
Starting point is 01:42:46 hype that thing up for you. You've seen many of our talent on this show. Check us out. Paragon Talent Group. Hit us up. Alright boys, we appreciate it. Mojo, thank you and let's all hope that K-Funk is back next week with Perlander and Upton. In order to have a nightcap, you need to have a night first. Make good on some bets, then pour some smoothness in your glass with larceny-weeded bourbon. Whether propelling your parlay with a refreshing paper plane or celebrating a big payout with a classic Kentucky mule, larceny has all the flavor you need to craft cocktails so tasty, they'll have your toasting victory like a high roller.
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