The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF- Super Bowl Box Scheme

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

Its the moment we wait all season for. The Pro Bowl games! Billy thinks the Pro Bowl took a dive once they started moving it from Hawaii to Orlando, but has a conspiracy theory as to why they did so. Mike Golic joins the show to talk about why he doesn't have Chiefs fatigue and what makes New Orleans such a great place for food and to host an event like the Super Bowl. Plus, did Fuentes pull a shady move in his work fantasy football league? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Mikey. God bless football, Stu. Thank you, Mikey. One game left. The biggest of games. Super Bowl 59. Billy, we are headed to New Orleans next week. We are. I thought you're I thought you're talking about the Pro Bowl games this weekend.

We're not going to preview any of those. Can I ask you a question? And this is something we should very much know as a football podcast. One of the biggest in America nominated for the Sports Podcast Awards every year for best football podcast stiff competition this year. Anywho, here's my question, because we should know this. How the hell do the Pro Bowl games work? Like, is there an actual game this week or no? Because like they've changed it so many times in a different city, sometimes here, sometimes there. I have no idea if they're playing

a football game this weekend. They are, everybody's gathered together. I know there used to be a drone drop and the likes of that and I think they got rid of that, but there's like best catch. Like probably should have looked this up before we just started talking about it, but there's a big one this weekend I think so I don't

think it's a game I think it's about a series of skills competitions like I don't I think that there's a flag football component isn't it? It culminates in a flag football game. Yeah but that's not football I mean. It's not? No but there's a tug of war there's a quarterback contest that has a trivia component to it trivia. Wait, what? trivia Quarter so we've gone too far

Yes, the quarterback had 30 seconds to throw at targets but gets 10 seconds added if one of his teammates Now actual teammates so like CJ Stroud and Nico Collins are doing it I know that for the AFC. This sounds like field day. So if Nico Collins gets something right in the trivia he gets 10 more seconds. This is hold on a second. Hold on a second. This is very much. Thursday night at the local pub. I mean what are we doing? No, Fueda's told me and he's exactly right this sounds like field day at school is what this is. Exactly. Like they have to pay a little bit extra then they were matching shirts They don't have to wear a uniform like what's going on here. This is ridiculous My field day it was red versus blue and purple always won. Why are we doing that? I don't like that at all

Purple always won red versus blue. There's no winners. What was even the point of it? I mean, I guess you could argue what's the point of the Pro Bowl because this is what yes I mean this seems JJ walk out all upset saying hey when you're a fifth alternate like we have jumped the shark Well Russell Wilson is playing like no he's not come on guys playing Hold on a second Josh Allen is not going to the Pro Bowl, and by the time they got down to the alternate, I believe Russell Wilson is going. I saw somewhere, I think that it was Pat McAfee

was saying it, that if you are a Pro Bowl alternate, so you are selected now because everybody's backed out or whatever and you make it to the Pro Bowl as an alternate, you don't get contractual Pro Bowl bonuses. Like you need to be like on the first batch of Pro Bowl selections to earn Pro Bowl money. If not, and you have like in your contract making a Pro Bowl as a bonus,

if you're added as an alternate after 600 people have said no, you don't get that in your contract, which seems crazy to me. It does, it seems like a terrible job by the agent. Well, I mean, I guess also, by the end, every single person in the NFL has made the Pro Bowl because so many people back out every year. But that was pretty trivia.

I have some sad news for you guys. Sad news? Yes, sad news as we're covering the Pro Bowl. Okay, something sadder than the football season ending? Well yeah, so turns out last night, Thursday night, was the skills showdown for the Pro Bowl so we missed that. But good news is Sunday, Pro Bowl Games Championship, so 3-6 you can watch that on ESPN Network, Family of Networks, ESPN, ABC, Disney XD, all of those, they're going to have all of that stuff.

So let's be honest before they install trivia into the proceedings, it never really was a football game. They were never playing a football game Pro Bowl weekend. Yeah, it was two hand touch. I mean, I'm not. No, you're not. Yeah, there was players. There was players there was Yeah, Sean Taylor was knocking punters out Make sure to play every Pro Bowl that he could but it's been a long time play on Taylor's been with us God rest his soul may he rest in peace but like since then listen me someone else you name one name

Can I say what I think the downfall of the Pro Bowl was? And hey, Super Bowl is coming up. We'll get to that a little bit later. Can I say what I think the downfall of the Pro Bowl was? And I don't know why this happened. And I think that it also leads to why so many people back out. Maybe not. When we moved the Pro Bowl out of Hawaii,

it just felt different. You know what I mean? Like every year was Hawaii. It was like, you know what? I'm going to go. I'm going to bring all my family and hangers on and I'm gonna spend my entire annual salary in getting all of my friends and family

to go see me participate in the Pro Bowl. And then they decided to get- Hawaii was incentive enough for these guys to wanna go. Well then they started making it cute and it's like, let's go to Orlando, let's go to Las Vegas, let's go to- Let's go to Disney. Exactly, wherever.

And it's like, guys. No one wants to respectfully respectfully To the great city of Orlando. No one wants to go to Orlando for the Pro Bowl Yeah, you know to central Florida when before the option was Hawaii like Honolulu or Kissimmee, Florida Like come on. What do we think is gonna happen here? You have to build up to Orlando. You don't build down to Orlando. Once Hawaii's there, you can't scale back to Orlando. You know what I mean? Once you reach Hawaii,

Orlando is off the map. There's no turning back. And that's really, if you ask me, one uneducated person on the circumstances here, that's what killed the Pro Bowl. How many jobs did the NFL save in their budget by downgrading from Hawaii to Orlando? Like I don't have to buy round trip airfare or nothing for any of that stuff. Now guess what guys everybody's gonna keep their job but you're not going to Hawaii.

You're going to Orlando. You know what I wonder if the players union played a role in this because so many players were like guys We got to get out of Hawaii Like I cannot say no to my mother-in-law and my cousins and everyone else and like one selection to the Pro Bowl is costing me $400,000 by the time my entire family makes it there and I just I cannot afford to go to the Pro Bowl anymore I'm throwing games. I'm not playing Well, I don't want to be selected because if I'm selected I can't tell them no, we're not going to Hawaii

I can't not accept it. I have to accept it. I Can get an Airbnb in Orlando one of those houses with eight bedrooms It has like the Disney Princess theme the arcade and in a garage, the pool table, all of that stuff. There's a Harry Potter room with bunk beds for all the kids. I can pull that if we get that. We can move to Orlando, I can fit 15 people in one house for a week. That's fine. Or, I can very much again, I can convince them, we don't need to go to Celebration Florida

for a week. You know what I mean? we can go somewhere else let's go to you know Atlantis in the Bahamas still cheaper than going to Hawaii with 600 people you know what I mean? Too nice too many people are gonna want to go I think you're right I think they got together they said let's pick a city where no one wants to go well not that no one wants to go but like let's, let's pick a city where we can very easily convince people, maybe we take this year off. Maybe it's not the biggest deal in the world.

We're not gonna go to Orlando, but we're also not going to Hawaii, and you take your family somewhere in between. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can skip it, and then you just go on a family vacation but then it's also like, well, you know, we don't take our cousins on a family vacation. Like, we don't take our aunts and uncles

on a family vacation. That's not necessary. We don't need to do all of that, right? So then that's how you also, I'm pretty sure the players union was involved. I don't know this but I'm pretty sure players union was involved. I Love that the foundation of your argument is that a bunch of NFL pro bowlers are afraid to tell their mothers-in-law's no Yeah, of course. Everyone is everyone is afraid to you be the guy disagree with you

It's the ramifications of telling your brother of no. Oh, I get it. I totally understand. I picture like scary dude from the Hawaii, James Harrison being like, no, I can't tell my brother. Exactly right. I'll pay $400,000 and not have this conversation. I'll pay $400,000. Because it's going to take- Yes, she does need to sit first. It's a year of arguments. By the way way today's episode of godless football is presented by draft kings draft kings the crown is yours Anyway, when you tell your family Orlando, it's not that big of a deal Yeah, yeah And then and then also you could say like hey like we could go to Orlando for the week and go to this

It's gonna be busy though, and we don't want to go at busy time Why don't we just go to like let's go to Mexico together, you know what I mean? And then that's how you go somewhere. Let's go to Costa Rica. You go somewhere else Like let's go to Maldives you go somewhere else just as like your family like five people and then everyone's like well You know what they opted not to go to the Pro Bowl like I get it It was a long year James has probably beat up James doesn't want to go and play ring toss or whatever it is It's going on this year by the way Stugats Mike Yeh also presented by Spear and Off we do game days please drink responsibly the Spear and Off company New York New York this has been described by many

people who are attending as the walking Super Bowl because of the proximity that everything is about that I was too until this morning What happened when I fell off of a curb taking my daughter to school and sprained my ankle terribly and you can't see it but I'm sitting here with it all wrapped up and ice on it. Can you put it on the table? Well I can just show you I can show you what I'm working with right now which is just this situation is going on right now. Guys I'm the third alternate for you if you need someone else to fill in. Well, you're not getting your super bowl bonus. I hate to tell you the way contracts work.

Yeah. What do you mean you fell off a curb? What happens? I mean. As you get older, you don't actually get injuries from doing real things. You just misstep off a curb. You step in a hole, whatever.

And this one, this one, I felt it. Like I felt, I don't wanna say a tear or a pop, but I felt something, this isn't like, oops. Something touched the ground that doesn't touch you. No, I felt a clear, when it happened. And I, so I went, I dropped my daughter off at school, I went and dropped the other daughter off at school, I got home and I was like, I'm wrapping this thing

as hard as I can, I gotta keep moving. As soon as I stop moving, this is done. So then I went, I didn't have an ankle brace, so I went, I got a green ace bandage wrapped around as hard as you could. I then stopped by, got an ice pack, just slid that in there, drove into work. As soon as I parked and I was walking across the street, oh boy, I felt it. And I know as the day goes on, I'm gonna feel it, because I still haven't taken like an anti-inflammatory Or anything so this sucker is swelling and this ice pack is hot now. It's gonna be a fun week next week Are you thinking like stress fracture? Are you thinking Achilles is a grade two ankle spray? Like what are you thinking here? Uhhhhh I don't

Questionable for New Orleans? No, we're- New Orleans is happening. I'm- You're playing with pain Listen this probably ends with me in urgent care just to get like the meds that I need But like I'm going come hell or high water and maybe I'll be wearing Crocs all week because shoes won't fit but we're doing this thing Right. My father go for Mikey Mikey has to carry you down from station to station I'd rather stay home Thank you, I'm good. If this was a regular season game,

Billy might be questionable. Super Bowl, you play through. Real wants play through it, yeah. I'm going to play through it this episode too. Going to get to Golic here or? You know what, Billy? I call this week getting back to basics. Oh, BTB. Yeah, it's the week before we go down or go up in in our case, to New Orleans. It's a great city for a Super Bowl. I've been told I've never I've never covered one there, but I'll be interested to get Golic's thoughts because, you know, Golic loves food. That means he loves New Orleans because New Orleans is known for its food.

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No. Back to your room, watch the game, get the f*** out on Monday morning. I'll be watching the game with room service in my hotel room. Mike and I have to do the show Monday in New Orleans and then we'll fly home. No one with access to the game will be closer to the game without actually going to the game. Meaning you're so close and you're not gonna go to the game, but you can get into the game.

I mean. Yeah, yeah. I will not, no. No, no, no. No, I will be in my hotel room, either with my son Mike or alone with Roon Service and enjoying the commercials, enjoying the game, enjoying laying down and watching the game.

After a long week of pitching products. Yeah, pitching products, going to different events, doing the show every day all week. Yeah, as you well know, it's a long week. Again, I'm not complaining. No. I get to go cover the Super Bowl, but yeah, it's a long week. Yeah, it's a as you well know, it's a it's a long week. Again, I'm not complaining. Now, get to go cover the Super Bowl. But yeah, it's a long week. Mikey, could you sleep so close to the Super Bowl with access to the Super Bowl and not go to the Super Bowl? I could my only problem with what he said was the room service. Like, Mike, New Orleans

is a food town. Like, let's not do it. Let's not just do room service. I will be there. I will be there seven days previous to the Super Bowl. I will get my fill of New Orleans food. I will get my fill every single day, multiple times a day, of New Orleans food. By the time Sunday rolls around, I'll be like the person at the end

of the 10-day cruise who has gained 20 pounds and is trying to get back to some normalcy. Right. Yep. We've all been there. That's why he's great. I mean, he makes things very relatable. We've all been at the end of a 10-day cruise and we feel like hell. Oh my God. Yeah. The worst. Where does New Orleans rank for you in terms of food cities? It has to be up there, right? Oh, as far as food city and as far as hosting a big event,

it's right at number one. Because again, when the media or we all descend on an event, it's not about the event. You know this, Stu, it's about how does it affect us? Yeah, how does it affect our week? Yeah, do we have to get in a car? Can we walk? How convenient is where we have to go? And New Orleans is all walkable. You don't have to get I mean, I'm staying in a hotel that's connected to the convention center. So every day

I just walk down a hallway, radio road, do the show, and I'm about a 15, 20 minute walk to the quarter to go get all the food that I want to the events that I'm going to go to. It is so convenient. That's why it's a top the list. And the food is out of this world. All right, so it's my first time covering a Super Bowl

in New Orleans. What you're telling us is it's not Las Vegas. Oh, it is. Now, listen, Vegas, you could walk Vegas. I was fine with because I walked to a lot, especially you could walk to the game. Which is fantastic. Yes. That's one of the great things. And you know, there's a lot, a lot to do in Vegas. Obviously, it's different in New Orleans. The food is is second to none.

You could find so many variations of food. And with the French Quarter, you can go to an established place like Brennan's, where everybody's gonna try and go to. Or for me, man, I like little holes in the wall, little dive places where you can just sit and have a beer or two, and have some nice gumbo or something, you know and and

Call it a day, you know, I'm past the point of staying out late I used to do that when I first went to Super Bowls I go out and meet guys I played with her against and go to the different parties and wake up and do the show Man, I'm so past that I'll go out for an early dinner unless I have an event I have to go to and I'll be in bed Mike I'm sick of dancing around this thing. Let's just let's just go right to it I need I need a Mount Rushmore of food cities Oh in America for you, and I want you to take out the event part of it doesn't matter, right?

Just just the places Mike Olick likes to go to eat. OK, I imagine Philadelphia might be up there. I've got to be honest. Yeah. Billy's up there. New Orleans is certainly up there. The Carolinas with the barbecue is up there as well. Vegas, anywhere in the Midwest, and the Midwest with a good steak. Right. I'm a big steak and potatoes guy. Good steak.

I have to be somewhere where there's like water to get like seafood. I'm not gonna be in the Midwest and order fish, even though I'm sure there are places that fly it in and it's really good. So I'm more by region of food, barbecue food, steak and potatoes and seafood type of a deal. So Kansas City might be up there for you. Kansas City is definitely there.

That was it's when I played it was it's the best smelling stadium there is. And when I played there when we used to leave and go to our buses, there used to be people that would give us barbecue, you know, which was phenomenal. I mean, you got to get on the bus with barbecue. So that's an awesome stadium, yeah. What's the worst smelling stadium, Mike? What's that? The worst smelling stadium, yeah.

Philadelphia. I don't know about smelling, but the worst to get into and out of is a buffalo is tough to get in and out of. And obviously the weather can be awful as well. So that's probably a place that I'm not all that hyped up to go, even though it's a great team to go watch play, it's tough to get in and out of. Mike, where are you on Chief's fatigue?

Are you one of those guys, it's like, hey, I'm tired of watching this great team continue to win over and over and over again or are you a guy who appreciates the greatness when you see the greatness? No I appreciate the greatness because in this day and age of football where a team can turn over so quickly they've kept their core together and they filled in spots every year and they continue to win so I'm one of those that appreciates greatness. I get it when people say they want something different than Michael Jordan winning a title, then Tiger Woods winning a tournament, then Golden State winning an NBA championship. I get people getting fatigued and wanting

their team there instead of that person or that team that's winning it. But I certainly appreciate the greatness and I don't think and he gets talked about a lot, but I don't think Andy Reid gets talked about enough. We talk about Mahomes, he's a Hall of Famer already, Travis Kelsey, a Hall of Famer, what the Chiefs are doing, but Andy Reid, not Bill Belichick, Andy Reid is going to end up the all-time winning a playoff games. He's only a couple away from Belichick he's gonna blow by him in that and I think he's at 301 and Shula's at 347 that's four years of 12 win getting team game years which I think

he can do so I think it's Andy Reid that's gonna hold all the victory records as far as head coaches are concerned I don't know if he'll equal Belichick in Super Bowls, but I think he'll pass him in postseason wins and pass Don Shula in wins. Andy Reid is going to go down, already should go down as one of the great coaches of all time. You know, it's interesting because Mikey A and I

were talking right before you came on with us. We were saying if Nick Sirianni wins this game, he might be considered the greatest Eagles coach in Eagles history do you agree? Wow that that's a that's a I mean listen you have to go by results right? Yes. And I mean that that would be that would be pretty that would be a pretty good stamp on his resume I don't know if anybody will ever consider him that but he can he can hold up the sheet that said, look what I've done.

I mean, he'll have that on his side. But if he loses, he's fired, right? Yeah. I mean, is it unreal? I mean, how many games into the season this year, we were talking about his longevity being an Eagles coach. And even the last game when Jalen Hurts says, Nick finally took the straight jacket off me

and Nick says, oh, he was just joking around. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't joking around no. I mean this is a team but but listen Jalen not happy with the passing game listen listen to what Pat Mahomes said after they won the Super Bowl back-to-back He said he wasn't satisfied with the way the offense played right that the defense was was playing better And he wanted that offense to get back to the powerful offense. I get it from a quarterback standpoint you want to be a high-flying offense but this is an Eagle offense that's built around the offensive line in Saquon Barkley. Yeah it is it's a great offensive line. Mike it's such a fascinating game from this standpoint. I think you would take you

would take the Eagles offensive line, defensive line, linebackers, probably secondary. You would take everything Philadelphia except the coach and the quarterback. Yeah, yeah. Listen, like I picked Buffalo against Kansas City, I'm gonna pick Philadelphia against Kansas City. I think Philly is overall the better team, save for, like you said, the coach,

which the play calls that Andy Reid pulls out, the roll right to get a first down on the last drive, and then that third and seven, where he had motion trips to the left, so he could tell, so he could, Pat Mahomes could tell it was man coverage, then all three receivers ran ran Crossing routes and and some Ajay P Ryan ran out to the left and the man covering him

just got caught up in a six-person wash and P Ryan was wide open to catch the ball and run for the first down. That's just incredible by Andy But I just man I I I like the Eagles what a great game it was the last time except for as a former defensive player seeing a 38-35 game what was a little rough even though it was fun to cover that's for sure but I like the Eagles in this one right Mike but this is your dream Super Bowl. You have Spags versus Fangs. I mean, wow. I mean, it is it really is something else. I mean, but but Spagnoa was already the D coordinator with the most Super Bowl rings. He can add a fifth get a fifth as a D coordinator. How the how the and I forgot which defender was a Chris Jones on Kansas City who said as long as nobody makes him a head

coach, that means we still keep winning. Yes. Yeah, it's truly amazing. We'll get to spags and because Billy and I have a thought here on what spag should do after the Super Bowl. But I heard Billy I can't see him, but I heard a sound come out of Billy's mouth when I picked the Eagles over the Chiefs Billy What is happening? It's just one of the Mike they keep doing this to us

We keep picking people against the chiefs and they keep making us look stupid every single I don't know how you're so confident in doing so like oh, you know, I'm not confident You know how I'm I'm not confident at all Is this is this one of those things where just eagle great Mike Golick has to go out there and say the thing to remain prominent in the Eagles community? It has nothing to do with that. His friend is Andy Reid.

Well, you know. Some friend. We haven't spoken to him all year. Some friend, Andy Reid. Where's he been this year? Jeez. I think the guy's busy. Too busy winning.

Exactly right. Andy Reid will be joining Mike Golic and I and you Billy Gill and Mikey A. He'll be joining us at some point. You don't worry about it. We'll see. Mike, it's funny. People talk every year.

Should Andy Reid retire? Should Travis Kelsey retire? Why on God's green earth would you leave this quarterback? It's amazing how people tell other, when Jerry Rice wasn't gonna to be with the 49ers don't go to another team retire. Tim Brown not with the Raiders don't go to another team retire. How the hell do you tell people to retire if they still want to A coach or B play if they still have the want to to do the work in the offseason because that's why players retire. They don't

want to do what's necessary from February to August to prepare for the season. They just don't want to do it and they know they have to be prepared. But if you're willing to put in the work, why the hell wouldn't? Look at Pete Carroll, he's 74. Andy Reid, 66. Andy Reid has more than a few years left in coaching as long as he wants to. Same with Travis Kelce. I mean, to me, it's ridiculous to try and force

somebody to retire if they still have the want to to do it. But Mike the larger point is you don't leave this kind of guy when you have this kind of guy. He's just going to keep putting rings on your fingers. I mean it's just a run that you keep that you stay on. Again the core stays together you fill in the ancillary spots behind that and you just keep winning you you ride This is for as long as you can. Absolutely Mike did you feel bad for Josh Allen last week? I don't feel bad for for professional athletes in the sense, you know, wow, I feel it's it's

He is like those that got caught up in the Tiger Woods era It's he is like those that got caught up in the Tiger Woods era those that got caught up in the Michael Jordan era Though it happens right you can be great, but if you get caught up in the wrong era There there's not a lot that you can do because Josh Allen is played Well, he didn't turn the ball over this year like he has in the past right and they just I mean it you literally the past, right? And they just, I mean, it you literally, you literally have to keep the ball out of Pat Mahomes hand on the last drive. And whether it's a to score points, or be get a first down to run the clock out, because you know, Andy Reid is going to go for Andy Reid is going to run the ball three

times and punt. Andy Reid is going to try and keep possession of the ball. Because that's the. Andy Reid is going to try and keep possession of the ball because that's the way Andy Reid works and you have a quarterback in Pat Mahomes that can get it done. So no, I don't feel bad. I mean, I don't. You just got caught in the wrong air. Not to say that it can't happen next year for Josh, but man, it's got to be mentally, you know, physically guys guys are all prepared to play. But mentally, you just have to wonder when you get into the playoffs against Kansas City, it's like, OK, what happens this year?

How do we lose this year? What goes on this year? It's just got to be brutal. How do you feel about Sean McDermott? Do you think that he's he's keeping Josh Allen from the Super Bowl? No, I mean, again, I don't I don't think so. I don't think so. This is like this is like I remember Marty Schottenheimer took the Browns to a couple of AFC Championship games and got fired. I mean, I fired after the Chargers AFC Championship game as well.

13, yes, it's like you were going to fire Ryan Day. And again, if there wasn't a 12-team playoff, Ryan Day probably would have got fired because he lost four times in a row to Michigan. Yes. But he ends up winning a national championship. It just seems ludicrous to think that you would fire Ryan Day over one game. Right. Just like, you know, Sean McDermott is successful. Who are you going to hire that you say, yeah, that person is going to get us over the hump. I'm glad you asked. Spags. Now Billy will back me up on this

because Spags not only is he a great defensive coordinator, he brings all the Kansas City Chiefs secrets with him. Listen, Spags is going to get a chance to be a head coach again. Uh, I, I, I would really believe, but, but, but again, you don't know how somebody who's been a life or coordinator is going to be, uh, as a head coach, right? Um, you, you just, you just, you just don't know, right?

Well, then we do know when it wasn't very good, but not to say he wouldn't be good. Yeah, this is just about secrets. Yeah, exactly I mean you you had a you had a stint obviously As as a head coach I get it with the what the Rams from 2009 to 11. I think it was So you have a bit of history there? But I do think it would be stunning, I guess I would say, if he doesn't get a shot again. If in fact he wants a shot again, and he's what, 65 years old.

So who knows? Who knows? I don't know what's on his mind. Mike, I'm sorry, because I'm trying to get this worked out with Billy here, because I can't see Billy. And Mikey, it's annoying me that I can't see Billy, because Billy is a bit of a safety blanket and security blanket for me here because I can't see Billy and Mikey it's annoying me that I can't see Billy because Billy is a

bit of a safety blanket and security blanket for me and I can't see him and I know he has questions for goalie That's fine. I guess one of my questions Mike and I don't want to I don't want to rub salt in your wounds here because we're now You know a couple weeks removed from this situation, but you told us Great run by Notre Dame obviously historic run. What a season You told us a couple weeks back that you would not be coming down to see them at Hard Rock Stadium because of the bad memories that you had from when Notre Dame lost the National Championship to Alabama down here in Miami. Are we now adding

stadiums to the list where you can't visit anymore because Notre Dame choked in those games in the national championship. No. Okay. No, no, in Miami it was a blowout. It wasn't even a game. All right.

This was a game. I mean, Notre Dame started out great, then obviously Ohio State went on an incredible run, and then Notre Dame made it a one score game in the fourth quarter, made it somewhat exciting. So no, that was only because it was just an absolute destruction in Miami. So no, I'd still go to Mercedes Benz in Atlanta for sure. Yeah, because we're running out of major stadiums here, you know.

The issue with me in Notre Dame. It was going so well. I know it was. It was going so well. Better when you couldn't see me in there. Why did I ask for them? The issue with me in Notre Dame... I know it was, it was going so well. Better when you couldn't see me in there. Why did I ask for him? The issue with me in Notre Dame is all the players they're losing. A couple of wide receivers in the portal,

three offensive linemen, their defensive coordinator, Al Golden, going to the Bengals. Now they did sign Chris Ash, who has been a D coordinator for more than a few big time teams. But they they're GM.

Obviously, every team has a GM now went from Notre Dame to USC. So they need a new GM. So that's what happens when you're successful. You get you get you get poached and Notre Dame certainly got poached. Mike, do you think Jason Kelsey is enjoying this? Oh, yeah. I mean, his former really isn't it as former team is it? He really he can't lose if his former team wins. He's happy. Right. I think he's more happy if his brother wins. So Mike, I mean, from this standpoint, there are a year like he's he's been

retired for one year. Yeah. And you would think the offensive line would suffer without one of the all time great centers, but they have actually gotten better and say one Parkley has had a year for the ages. And I'm wondering if they Jason Kelsey says to himself, Hey, I should have waited one more year before. Yeah. I don't know if his body would have held up. I mean, that's the one he can always lean on. I don't know if my body would have would have held up because yeah, Cam Juergens comes in as a Pro Bowl center. I mean, it's almost like they didn't miss a beat.

They got obviously younger at the position. Yeah, I could see that being one year removed thinking about I could have been on another team. But he's got a ring too, I think. So if he never got a ring, I think it would bug to me even more. No question. So you were headed down the path of

who should Jason Kelsey be rooting for in this game? And I would, I would tell you pick a side, like enough, pick a side and it should be the Eagles. It should be your brother. Well, I think my point is he's, he's happy either way. If the Eagles win, it's his former team winning. If the, if the Chiefs win, it's his brother winning to your point. Yes, I do think he should be in, he can root for he wants, he's his own man, but I would be rooting for my brother at this point. Blood is thicker than the team I played for.

Right, like imagine Junior decided to go to Alabama instead of Notre Dame, and they played in that national championship game, you would have been rooting for Alabama, right? Yes, oh, I always said if Mike or Jake went to a different school I would I would cheer for that school proudly I mean if it was where they wanted to go and where they wanted to be I would be happy it's it's my kids over my school for sure even if it was USC yeah that that's that they'd be an issue. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. That's where he draws the line.

Yeah. That's where blood is no longer thicker than water. That's that's where they're out of the will. Hmm. Mike, as a former defensive player, we'll get you out of here in a second. We look forward to seeing you next week in New Orleans pitching product already. Yeah. What are we pitching, Mike? What are we like? Let's let's start working on some of these pitches. What do we add in the works here? Give us an example.

Yeah, I love diabetes. Well, there's diabetes involved again. Oh, of course there is. No one has benefited more from diabetes than you. But it's actually to help with diabetes. Right, right. And help you. But I mean, if they found a cure,

the checks would dry up If we're gonna be perfectly honest Stop it was going so well Mike. I Can't wait to see you next week Mike. Yeah. Yeah, I look forward to it Billy. Yeah. No, he doesn't Billy Mike what I was gonna ask you was can you tell us as a former defensive player? Just because I don't think we really know what we're watching every Sunday because we just Pay attention to the quarterbacks and not interior play. What makes Steve Spagnola so great at his job? Well, I mean it's it's the timing like the last blitz that he had on Josh Allen. Yes, right

I mean he was kind of kind of saving that and it's something you can do on the defensive side You can save stuff not as much on the offensive side, but the defensive side, you can save stuff. And he gave Josh Allen a zone look, right? Gave him a deep zone look, and he kinda had it a little bit overloaded to Josh's left, so Josh slid left. He had the line slide left.

And sure enough, the cornerback blitzes from Josh's left so Josh slid left he had the line slide left and sure enough the cornerback Blitzes from Josh's right and he and Carl off this come free and force, you know the hail mare which by the way I mean for it should have been caught right? Yeah should have been caught but Regardless he he and and that's what you see today in blitzes you either overload with more guys rushing than offensive linemen and and running backs to block or You try and confuse to where you're not bringing more rushers than the offense has to block But you fooled them into calling the wrong protection and you have free rushers. That's exactly what Spagnolo did. He confused them, called the protection a slide left,

and what you have to have is players who can disguise because you'll see before a play, a quarterback give a hard count, or in college they'll clap their hands thinking that's gonna go. To try and have the defense give up what they're gonna do, right? Have a guy step out of position oh he's coming he's backing off so the try and give him a read give credit to the players on Kansas City for

disguising for not giving it up for that cornerback not showing that he was going to blitz until the ball was snapped so it's a combination of trying to fool the offense and then having your disguised guys not give away what they're gonna do until the ball was snapped. So it's a combination of trying to fool the offense and then having your disguised guys not give away what they're gonna do. All right Mike, we appreciate the time as always. We'll see you next week in New Orleans. What a game it's gonna be. Andy Reid either becomes the greatest coach of all time or Nick Sirianni becomes the greatest coach in Eagles history. I mean you know it's a storyline either way right? It is. I mean, you know what? It's a storyline either way, right?

It is. I look forward to eating with you. Yeah. Oh, definitely. We'll gain weight together. All right. You get to punch Billy when you see him or what are you going to do? No, I'm going to give Billy a hug. Oh, that's so nice. All right. We'll let Chris Simms punch him. So yeah. Stu got here for my friends over at DraftKings. Listen up. This ain't the little itty bitty teeny tiny bowl. This is Super Bowl 59.

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think there's one person who would be upset if we don't well there is that we don't really care about upsetting that person no there's one person that wouldn't like it and we need to figure out a strategy for next week in terms of picking the Super Bowl because essentially if you have been listening to us all season long on the podcast format video we haven't really included in the DraftKings network that much I don't think but it's been on YouTube but if you've been following along our guest picking segment that's that's locked up that that has not been determined but or it basically has been determined

there's and there's only one game left so people aren't within one game of each other. So we already essentially know our champion unless we get creative, which is why I think maybe next week what we should do is I think that we should have everybody pick the games but have Kayfunc come in because he's so far behind everyone else and just have him pick his own prop bets to give himself a chance to get back in this situation. What do you guys think? You're saying these prop bets are exclusive to Kayfunk? He's the only one who has a chance to pick that. I think we extend him the courtesy of also letting him pick whichever ones he wants.

And that is honestly just for time's sake because if we go there and we go back and forth he's going to complain about how the line's going to move and this and that and he's going to take 10 minutes to pick an over-under on receptions for like the third wide receiver for one of the teams So it's like just come in and tell us what your props are and then we can move on and then see ya We'll see you in, you know, September, you know, what do you think? Is that how you do it when you're done with them? Just see ya. We'll see ya. No just with him just with him and unfortunately Unfortunately, I know with him, just with him and

unfortunately, unfortunately, I know with him, it's not going to be September when we hear from him. No, it is not. It will very much. I'll hear from him next week. It will very much be Sunday. It'll be next week. He's going to pitch a segment

where he does March Madness. Like I already know that he has training camp. Yeah, I know the way this man's mind works. I mean, there'll be some sort of pickleball podcast with Justin Verlander. What we actually had that meeting with

I do that three years. No, dude. We had a meeting with him about a pickleball podcast like three years ago before pickleball like blew up and we're like, okay, K-Funk, whatever you say, right and looking back, maybe there was something there but also,

you know, that comes with K-Funk being the host of that that podcast. So, that there's nothing there, right? It came with conditions. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Right. Came with conditions. So anyway, yeah, sad time. Sad time. Football's coming. Do you like betting prop bets Billy? Do you like for the Super Bowl? Are you a prop better? Are you not aware of what Billy's Big Board bets has been the entire season?

It's been pro. I know. That's all I live off of. Prop bets. Get out of here. I live. No one loves football more than you. I'm sorry. It's the truth. I was just wondering, like, three prop bets in a game is one thing. Yeah. Having like a dozen or so prop bets on a Super Bowl game is something I'm not really damn with. Well, it makes you feel alive.

You know what I mean? How do you guys feel about the squares? The squares is what everyone's getting in on this year. And we have like a company square game going on and then we have people within the company saying I'm boycotting football and they're not participating in the square game but how do you guys feel about the square game where you just go and you buy like two or three squares and then they do randomly like the numbers and then maybe you win maybe you don't. Here's here's

my problem with the square game is everybody that asked me to do it the squares are like two2,000 each. And I'm like, I don't, they're like, yeah, my buddy's putting together one at a bar and you want to go have these on a square for $2,000. Who are you rolling in? Who are you friends with? I rolled deep. Everyone that asked me.

I never once bought, I was like, I'll give you $5 and that'll get me in on a square. That's what I'll give you. I'd go to like my aunt's house and she bought like the square game at Party City and you just go and you write your name like in a square. You don't even pay and then at the end you get like a little, like one of those brown paper bags with like a ribbon from Party City that says, first place or whatever and like some candy, like Tootsie Rolls.

$2,000 a square. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you like what kind of double life are you living right now, friends? Wait, wait, Billy, are you not familiar with some of these square bets?

Like for the Super Bowl, they're higher than $2,000. Not with Mikey. Yeah, that's a low one. That's like around the block. I'm asking how this, like do you have a situation where like if the square game doesn't work out, like someone takes out your kneecaps like who are these people that you are hanging out with friends because I'm concerned and

Also kind of glad you're not coming to New Orleans now because I don't want to see these people They're coming after you. Well, I get I get asked to do them I've never once participated in one of them They just all assume that I would be in because I do like to I do like to throw a few shekels on a game I mean a dozen profits in a Super Bowl. That's my that's that's my gravy right there. A dozen ten dollar bets Five dollar bets like 70 bucks Are these people yeah, I'm in one for I'll get I'll get like four eight Yeah, I'm in one for I'll get I'll get like four eight

Do you guys for eight? $10,000 two thousand dollars exactly Eight's not bad though. It's not terrible It's the five you know what last year five Do you guys remember last year we had a game we were all gonna go in on together and put money I don't remember what the game was but like Carl was gonna go in and Sharebear was gonna go in and okay and ever we were all gonna make like a group bet together And it was Michigan. It was Michigan, Iowa. It was the under. Oh, yeah point for Iowa Yeah, exactly. I remember then it, but somebody didn't actually place the bet.

Well, also no one paid, so we were fine. It wasn't a thing where I sent someone money, no one placed the bet, and then all of a sudden, whoops, I forgot, no one placed the bet, but also. Well, once it hit, I was asking. I paid. Yeah, but we were also committing a lot of money to this, and I was like, I think it was like $1,000 each.

I'm like, I am not giving you $1,000. Two gods said, I'll cover it. Yeah, I think it was like a thousand dollars each. I'm like, I am not giving you a thousand dollars. Yeah, I'll cover everyone. I got everyone. Well, I'll tell you, speaking of me covering stuff, if you want to get into one of these Super Bowl boxes, I will pay the $2,000, me and you 50-50. How about that?

Let's do it. Done. That's a great, yeah, why wouldn't he take that deal? We split it 50-50. Why wouldn't I take that deal? You put all the money up. It's all for no risk. What is he getting?

I'm doing it for Mikey. This is for Mikey. It's all over. No risk. He gets no risk. I'm doing it for Mikey. This is for Mikey. I'm doing it for Mikey. I'm gonna buy one for myself and one for me and Mikey. You want in, Billy? No. I mean, you're doing one for yourself and one for Mikey.

Why wouldn't you want in? Because I'm not involved in that. You're doing one for yourself and one for Mikey. I'm not in that. That's it. I buy a third box for me and you. No, I gotta, I'll let you guys have this one because I don't wanna run into don't want to run into a situation

Where the people that Mikey you know is in these circles with the ones that go after the kneecaps come No, you pay the two thousand beforehand. So like there's no kneecaps coming I would have to break kneecaps if I don't get the money afterwards. Here's the thing Here's the thing about that is that I think that there's this might be one of those situations where Stu gots his name brings a certain gravitas to the the scenario right where they don't know that he's not gonna pay so they come in and they're like yo he's good for these two gods ESPN blah blah blah all this stuff metal art media he's gonna he's good for it we'll just you know and so I was like yeah buddy I'll give it to you next week and then when nothing

comes in then it's like well billy 5050 or you know Billy so I was like yeah, buddy I'll give it to you next week and then when nothing comes in then it's like well billy billy 50-50 or you know billy says he was gonna cover this one and then they're coming after my knee cap They're not gonna give me a box unless I pay up front Can I can I can I bring you guys in now book now that the football? The football season is coming tonight. Can I give you bring you guys in on a situation that is quite the controversy and And Fuentes is gonna be Fuentes is gonna be irate with this situation. But there was some scumbaggery done by Mike Fuentes in our company fantasy football league, where we did a company fantasy football league

and at no point was there discussion of a buy-in. It's just, do you wanna be part of the company fantasy football league? And I was asked like the day before and I was like, yeah, absolutely. Sure, I'll do it, whatever, right? I don't know if people, you know. Comradery, let's do things as a group.

Team player. Exactly right. Then the fantasy championship happens, Mike Fuentes wins and he goes, everybody owes me $10. That was the buy-in for the league. And we're like, what buy-in was this this is like I'm fine with giving you the ten dollars but this was never discussed but very one there was a

draft no one ever at any like at least 50% of the league is like this was never mentioned until you won and now you're just asking everyone for ten dollars and he's not waiting he's waving his hand saying no, that's not the case. And I was perfectly fine. I hope it's the case. I was perfectly fine to send him the money on Venmo until multiple people came up to me, they're like, did you know that we were supposed to send Mike Fuentes $10? And I was like, no, I was going to.

I assumed everybody knew. They're like, no, I think he just made this up. None of us are familiar with this scenario. And a lot of the people sent him money because they didn't ask around. But now it's more of a principle thing. And I forgot until right now when we mentioned it, so I'm probably sending it to him after this

because I don't want to be the guy that doesn't send it to him. But I'm pretty positive that he just decided that he won and everyone needed to send him $10 because- Well, if no one's paying attention. It's a heavy play. I think that's exactly what he thinks happened here is that no one was paying attention and everyone's like, was there a buy in? Was there not a buy in?

And he waited until he won the championship. Well, let's be clear, Fletchers doesn't think this happened. You think this happened. No, no. I've been approached by, this is a 16 team league. So like he's looking at like 160 bucks that he's going to just con out of people because no one discussed this until winner take all two Exactly, right. It is all of a sudden winner takes all he's the only one collecting any money in this league

Percent stake in fountas his team. How about that? There was no mention of guys remember your your dues are are due before Championship game then the guy wins the championship, and then it's like everybody owes me 10 bucks, and it's like, hold on a second. Weird, I thought I was out of the loop because I was a late addition, I'm like happy to do it. I think you guys should have told me before this,

but that's fine, I'm happy to do this and pay the $10 because I want to be a team player. And then a lot of people were asking where this due situation came from. A little good on Fuentes's part is making it $10 because if you made it 50 everyone of them like no I would have never more people would have dollars perfect Okay, here's your mic. He's right Billy. I have a little secret for you. He'll take five. I mean just send them five I'll take well

I was I seriously went on Venmo I like was like what is his I was about to hit send and then like I got like two texts like is this real or are they just making this up now? And I'm like, hold on a second. Let me not let me remove my thumb from the screen and not hit send just yet until I investigate this situation further. Right? He made it got me thinking. Yeah, you got me thinking about like gambling scams. I'm not certain like Mikey. I think you send that guy $2,000 and there is no box I mean, that's I'm well, I gotta I gotta go sign my name in the box. Okay. Yeah, actually go sign my name in the box Yeah, cuz I think what I think what the what the guy you have to go there. Yeah I think I think I think what happens there, right? You go and then like this person just sends everyone out like he waits until after like one of the quarters and then he just sends everyone different numbers so no one actually has the winning thing right like he takes a picture of all the names and there's no numbers filled out and

then he will send it so that no one wins the first quarter right and then if anyone happens to win any of the other numbers the other quarters then he'll like figure it out but I think he just waits until after the game and you think like oh look like John actually won the first quarter and John is like oh well you know Larry won the first quarter Larry's like well Mike won the first quarter like Paul won the first quarter because they all have a different number. Exactly right exactly right. Now what you do is you make up a whole bunch of names except for like two people who get you get to give you $2,000 that you walk away with $4,000 hey Jim s1 there is no Jim s that is great that let's do this are you

writing that down when does you get that for next year oh we just gave me the middle finger oh boy he called you number one. He said, Billy, you're number one. Who did? Fuentes. Billy, how do you feel about doing this to K-Funk? Some sort of getting him Super Bowl box scheme, getting him to buy in and then like we can we can have him pick it. We can send him a real thing, But it's all just other made-up people and then on the off chance he wins. He just wins his own money back Yeah, but the chances are he's not gonna win I Like one in a hundred you're taking all that money from K fun. Yeah Yeah, I want to put Mojo's name in

I do I do like we have him fill it out and we send him a copy of it and it has like all of the numbers and he thinks he has these boxes and we're like, oh guys, sorry, we updated it. And then we send it him and Mojo has all of his boxes instead of him. You know what I mean?

Or whatever wins Mojo's in those boxes instead of K-Funk. You send him the picture of the boxes and there's two K-Funk boxes and the rest say Mojo. I like that. Here's the other thing, by the way, when we say stuff like this people assume that we were intentionally out to get him and that's why he had a bad season and he fully believes that. We have done very little to actually get him throughout the season. Absolutely nothing. Almost nothing to get him. I mean don't get me wrong, we are leading into it when been teaming up. He's done this all on his own. He's bad at picking games.

We have done nothing to screw this guy over the entire year, but he's so convinced that we are. He's just terrible at picking. And even when he picks a winner, he changes it five minutes later into a loser. That lashes out at us. Yeah. Yeah.

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