The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF- Too Many

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

Stugotz, Billy and Mikey A discuss the Jets firing their head coach, Robert Saleh this week and just how much Aaron Rodgers had to do with it. Chris Simms joins the show and talks about the difference... between Lamar Jackson and Jayden Daniels before they face off this weekend. Simms doesn't understand the timing of the Jets decision to fire their coach and has a few words about the NFL's concussion protocols. Plus, the picks segment goes off the rails again when Gordy, Sharebear and Brandon Siler join from the Blackjack table at a Las Vegas casino. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:47 It's been enough company. New York, New York. Love that you got that in. God bless football. God bless football. You got thank you. Mike. There's a very tired Mike. Hello. Yes. Wow. He's tired and we miss Mikey. You snuck that one in. That was stealth Billy. That was awesome. Hey, God bless football. I know but but I'm surprised Mikey Aiden cut you off. That's all. He's very responsible. Yes, I know. You're in our company, New York. Chemistry. Yeah. You're sneaking another one in.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Hey, Mikey, where have you been? We haven't spoken to you in a few years. Yeah. Forever. We missed you last week sometimes. And then Monday, you were still traveling. How was your big football trip? sometimes and then Monday you were still traveling. How was your big football trip? It was fun. It was fun. We went to see that Thursday night game, Kirk Cousins against the Bucks.
Starting point is 00:02:32 That was a lot of fun. That was a great game. We went to, it really was. We had a good time there. That stadium, fantastic. Fantastic, that stadium. Yeah. Got to see Matt Ryan inducted into the Ring of Honor.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Not as much pomp and circumstance for Matt as you'd think. But then we went to Georgia Auburn, where the biggest cheer was when they showed the Alabama score. And Mike Golic saved me, I wanna say, I'm gonna use hyperbole and say hundreds of dollars. Mike Golic saved me hundreds of dollars for a story he told on this show.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Really? Did he hook you up with tickets or something? What happened? No, didn't have to. So Mike Golick said when he went to Athens last time, he got a parking ticket for $1.35. And parking at the stadium for Georgia is anywhere from like $80 to like 5,000.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Like if you go online, you could buy a parking pass for one game for like $5,000. Right. But I parked on the street and saw that there was a metered parking. And I was like, well, I'll just, I'll just take a parking ticket. So it was $25 for a parking ticket. Ask the meter mate. I was like, will you tow the car if it's like, if it has a ticket on it? She's like, nope, we don't tow. I was like, will you tow the car if it's like if it has a ticket on it? She's like, Nope, we don't tow. I was like, fine. I'll just leave it here. Take the $25 ticket. Paid it. Didn't have to buy parking.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Wow. Oh, so the overall experience of Athens, because I've told you it's a great place. Did you did you enjoy it or? Listen, it was it's it's definitely an SEC college town. It was it was it was awesome. Right. Maddie Ice getting into the Franchise he got booed easily why he got booed a little bit Why because they had a big lead in a Super Bowl and he blew it. I mean exactly. That would be the reason probably Here's the thing also you were watching a historic performance by Kirk Cousins And I would say this if you were taking someone who had never been to a football game before to that game And they saw what Kirk Cousins did over 500 passing yards They'd look at that man and they'd say you you know what, that's a first battle Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 00:04:46 They would. The first ballot. I think they'd think that. The problem with you is you thought it before that game. I mean. Some people are saying I might be a visionary. Don't get bogged down in the details. Yeah, but also I did throw an addendum in there
Starting point is 00:05:00 and say after the injury, well, this is kind of throwing that trajectory off a little bit. So. He did do that. Yes. But he's back on track now. Well, I don't know about that. I feel like I safely found my way to distance myself away from that take and I'm going to stay distanced away. We have a it's a big weekend in football college and NFL. Chris Sims is going to join us. I'm going to have my picks coming
Starting point is 00:05:19 up. By the way, I was six and Ostea gots last weekend. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Eight and five in college. Yeah. Eight and five. Listen, I do what I can around here, you know? But there are some big games. Mikey, before we get to Chris Sims, before we talk about some of these games, I was surprised when the Jets announced that they had fired Robert Sala. I'm assuming you were surprised as well. I was definitely surprised that it happened now. I'm not surprised that it happened.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I mean, it's funny to watch all these people screaming like, how do you fire him? How do you fire him? But like last week they were like, he's the worst coach in the NFL. Like he belongs getting fired. I don't know about the timing, but he's not a good head coach.
Starting point is 00:06:01 He's just not. It's the first time since Woody Johnson has owned the New York Jets that he has fired a coach and sees him. He has never done that before. Yes, Mikey. Anytime Woody Johnson wants to do anything different than what he's done the last two decades, I'm okay with it because what he's done the last two decades hasn't been awful. Yes, right. So maybe this time, maybe this time it will give the team a jolt that they sorely need headed into a big game against the Buffalo Bills. It was interesting though to fire Robert Sala, Billy, mid-season and then Aaron Rogers goes on
Starting point is 00:06:39 the Pat McAfee show and says he resents any sort of reaction in which people are blaming me for the firing of Robert Sala. I found that funny like laugh out loud but that Aaron Rogers is resenting media members who are speculating whether or not he had something to do with the firing of his head coach. It seems somewhat impossible to believe. I will say that Rogers didn't have anything to do with it. Yes, I mean, especially when he spoke to him the day before.
Starting point is 00:07:10 The night before. Seems very unlikely that that never came up in that conversation. What do I know? Maybe Aaron's innocent, maybe it's just a coincidence that Sala wanted to demote his friend Nathaniel Hackett, and I think they did have that conversation shortly thereafter.
Starting point is 00:07:24 They did though. Yeah, and then shortly after was replaced and also Nathaniel Hackett still got demoted anyway so. Just think about the idea that a conversation was had and the next day Woody Johnson the owner fires the coach and Roger says we didn't speak about it when they were talking about everything else. I kind of. What did they talk about? What did they talk about that? What did Aaron talk about that? What did Aaron Rodgers and Woody Johnson have in common? It's like, yeah, just catch up. Like, did you see, uh, you know, the new episode of Bad Monkey? Yeah, like what's going on? What
Starting point is 00:07:53 are they talking about? Get out of here with that. Oh, what do you think about only murders in the building? It's like, I don't think that's the conversation that's being had there. Even in the chance that the small chance that Aaron is telling the truth, he had nothing to do with it. He has earned us doubting whether or not he had something to do with that's what he said there. Even in the chance that the small chance that Aaron is telling the truth, he had nothing to do with it. He has earned us doubting whether or not he had
Starting point is 00:08:11 something to do with it. Like we're all speculating that he had something to do with it because he's earned that. So even if he's telling the truth, that's on him, not on us. That's on Aaron Rodgers. You know what I resent? The three
Starting point is 00:08:20 interceptions last week. Oh. I resent all three. Not one. All three of them. I resent them. Sorry. He could be telling the truth but in that way of like plausible deniability where like he didn't say fire solid goes, listen, I just think a change needs to happen at the at the top. So you want me to fire solid. I didn't say that. Right. I didn't say. That's the way you imagine it going. I'm just saying that something needs to happen. Things could be a little different. So then what happens? So then that's what I'm just saying. That something needs to happen.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Things things could be a little different. Things could be a little different. So then what happens? So then so then he says, I need, it can't be Nathaniel Hackett. In fact, we have to demote him to get the smoke off of you, right? So it
Starting point is 00:08:56 looks like you're not running this organization. Is that what happened? Is that is that the way you imagine it? I think I think it was very plausible deniability. That's exactly how I think it was you're like Aaron and you're like at what point are you guys wondering if Aaron was the right decision? Oh, I'm not
Starting point is 00:09:29 there yet. I should I shouldn't say the right decision because I think you know, a hundred times out of a hundred, you take Aaron Rogers over Zach Wilson, right? Yes. Yes. But like at what point do you start wondering is this going to end
Starting point is 00:09:40 the way we were thinking it might? The day they're eliminated from the playoffs. Okay. Yeah. He's still the best quarterback we've ever had. Listen, you're playing for first place this week, so. We got a game for first place. Yeah. Against the Buffalo Bills, and they have coaching issues of their own, by the way,
Starting point is 00:09:53 but it's gonna be an interesting game. I mean, they do. They have coaching issues over there. Sure. Why'd you look at me like that? They have issues. I don't know, coaching issues is the top of their problem, but okay.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Well, I mean, they were blasting their coach last. She's the top of their problem, but okay. Well, I mean, they were blasting. They were blasting their coach last week because of time management and stuff like that. And if I had Josh Allen, I would have done exactly what he did in that spot. They had the ball in the three yard line,
Starting point is 00:10:14 Billy and a lot of people said, hey, you gotta run out the clock there. He threw three straight times. Yeah, he's got one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. So, it's gonna be a great game. Bills it's going to be a great game. What's the game you go into like Cincinnati, Kansas City? We all knew it was going to be a great game and it was it was a one point game.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Yeah, but that's one of like 50 that have been played. Yeah, I just this year it's been it's been hard to find. I think the great game, right? I mean, Washington, Baltimore seems like it should be a great game this week. But we have no idea. But we have no idea. To your point, right? Just like everything else. Here's something that we do know. After this week, there's still going to be two undefeated teams in the NFL. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that right now. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Because the Chiefs have a bye week? And so do the Vikings. Okay. Neither one of them has been a loose. So, pretty confident in that one. Yeah, so we don't have to see. We already know. Yeah. The two undefeated teams are the Chiefs of the Vikings. Lions Cowboys is another game that you think is gonna be good, but you don't know. I really don't know. I don't know about the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You don't, huh? Yeah. You know about the Lions? I think I know, but I'm not sure if I know. You know something that I do know. What? If you wanna compete against us in our listener league, you go to dkng.co slash smirnoff.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Really? Listener league is presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. Nice little week for me last week. Hop back out of the 300s into the 100s. I feel like I'm trending in the right direction and I may be hitting pay dirt.
Starting point is 00:11:59 No pun intended. Really? Not for nothing. When you finished higher than 18, then you can come talk to me. Cause that's where I finished last week. 18? Just saying.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Got a nice little paycheck from DraftKings and they deposited it into my account. I am in a DraftKings state. Look at you. And yeah. Wow. Yeah, 18. So I mean, if anybody needs any tips this week,
Starting point is 00:12:20 you can hit me up. I don't keep it to myself. I like keeping the tips to myself. Yes. Oh, I don't give people the good tips. Oh, all right. I like that But I'll tell them so you tell them opposite of what you're actually thinking right? Sure. Yeah Billy finished top five. I didn't you finish top five. I finished fifth. I think at week one Yeah, something like that was in there in the five to seven range tomato tomato. Yeah That's not super important. What have you done for me lately?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah, by the way, Ohio State and Oregon are playing each other this week. It's a big game. It is a big game. That's a thing. Also, Ole Miss and LSU sneaky possibly playoff elimination game. So I think the new matchup between undefeated teams,
Starting point is 00:13:00 that's out the window. Like undefeated teams, I don't get excited for those games anymore because even like Alabama, Georgia, it was a great game. Yeah, but Alabama has lost since they're still getting into the playoff. Georgia, they lost that game.
Starting point is 00:13:13 They're still going to get into the playoffs. And so you're right. Ole Miss LSU loser not making the playoffs. The matchup of one lost teams is the new matchup of undefeated teams, if that makes sense. You're more excited about that than number
Starting point is 00:13:28 two against number three. Yes. Okay. Oddly. Yes. It does make sense. Thank you. It does. Yes. I just I don't believe that you believe. Billy LSU Ole Miss, the loser of that game is out. No, I know. I said that. Okay. So, that game to me would be more
Starting point is 00:13:42 exciting. If you have a loser season is over game as opposed to be okay. So, that game to me would be more exciting. If you have a loser season is over game as opposed to Oregon and Ohio State. If they lose, not the best thing but they could still get in. I'll take the matchup of two one lost teams. Alright.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Much higher stakes. Thank you. So, they're on at the exact same time. That's the game you're going to be tuned into. Probably not. I mean, I'm watching. I'm watching Ohio State. I'm watching Ohio State Oregon. Sorry. I mean, I'm watching Ohio State. I'm watching Ohio State. I mean, neither team has lost. It's a matchup of undefeated. They're defeated, Billy. No, I mean, how does that happen?
Starting point is 00:14:16 They haven't lost. Yeah, that's what that means. Big 10 implications. I think Ohio State's going to win that game. Do you and win big? Yes. Yeah, I don't think Oregon's that good.'re they always do this yeah again yeah this is their this is their spot to let you down yeah it really is something Oregon always does right they just always let you down well Ohio State kind of does it as well but I mean yeah but Oregon has like a 20-year history of this is why they started
Starting point is 00:14:40 doing the whole uniform thing is like oh they're so cool and it's like yeah but you know they're gonna lose at the end. Like we know exactly how this season is going to go. Is Oregon in the new Clemson in? Wow. Maybe I got to tell you that K state matchup with Colorado to one lost teams. That's a big one too. Don't look
Starting point is 00:14:55 now Clemson back in the top 10. I know, but they can't lose again. No, they can't. They can't. It's amazing. Like that's I guess I'm trying to figure out if I like this new college football season. I think the new can Alabama lose again? I think you're trying to figure out if I like this new college football season. I think. Can Alabama lose again? I think you're trying to figure it out too.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Alabama can lose again. I would say Alabama can lose two more times and still get in. That's. As long as one of them is to Georgia. What? Why are you looking at me like that? You're a lot. Oh yeah. Chris is next. I'm not. Why are you looking at steaks and flavor with every pour. That's because of one double gold at the 2024 San Francisco World Spirits Competition. Don't gamble with what's in your glass. Enjoy smoother
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Starting point is 00:16:22 because you played down there and you have you have an attachment to that city. So I always think of them. think of them I do yeah I mean it's it's you know my heart's always with that city to a degree yeah they drafted me and they were great to me there the fans it's a special organization they are good people so yeah I definitely have been thinking about them was watching the news late last night I had been there during a hurricane early on in my career so I know what it can get like there. I mean, literally to the point where you can jet ski down streets, right? I mean, the last time we were there, that's how it was. And I'm sure there was
Starting point is 00:16:56 some of that going on yesterday as well, but hope everybody's okay back in Tampa. Yeah, same. On behalf of everyone here with God Bless Football football our thoughts and prayers to everyone impacted by that storm, especially people on the west coast of Florida because it was horrific and we haven't learned the extent of the damage yet, but I'm certain that we will in the upcoming days. But I did want to ask Chris about that because he has an attachment to that city PFT with Mike Florio. You can check it out every day on Peacock, the Unbuttoned podcast as well. Football Night in America, Sunday Night Football. Man, the NFL. It is getting good since Jayden Daniels, Lamar Jackson coming up this weekend. What a fun time, huh? Oh yeah. I mean that should be a great one. Certainly, you know, I know like a lot of people have tried
Starting point is 00:17:40 to make comparisons of Jayden Daniels and Lamar Jackson and I get it to a degree. I do think there's a different style of play, right? And a little bit, Lamar Jackson, when he came into the league, was like right from the get go. It was like, ooh, is it him or Michael Vick are the greatest running quarterbacks ever? Jayden Daniels is really good at running,
Starting point is 00:17:58 but not to that extent. He's better in the pocket, though, throwing the football and making decisions than Lamar was early on in his career. But two special players, I do think He's better in the pocket, though, throwing the football and making decisions than Lamar was early on in his career. But two special players, I do think the Ravens are in a little bit of a different class as a football team than Washington.
Starting point is 00:18:12 This will go a long way. If Washington keeps this close or even pulls off the victory, it'll make me think differently of them. But when the Ravens are at their best, I kind of look at them and go, ooh, I don't know if I've seen a team in football that's as good as them when they're at their best. So they're certainly up in that hierarchy. Washington, you know, a lot of good,
Starting point is 00:18:31 but I think it's been also a schedule that fits them and is favorable that way. And Jayden Daniels has been phenomenal. Don't get me wrong, but I think this is a different animal they're facing this week going into Baltimore and seeing this team. Chris, what did you make of his response when someone brought up the comparisons to Lamar Jackson? Jaden said, no, I am not Lamar Jackson. He rejected those comparisons, but I think that's what makes the great ones great. I think he thinks in his mind, no, I'm a better version of Lamar Jackson. Right, or his own version of it, and he's just
Starting point is 00:19:01 better than Lamar in general. Like, I don't disagree with you there. I don't, you know, but, but I think where, yeah, like I said, and I think he probably looks at it and he's probably going, wait, I don't want to first off compare myself to a guy who's won two MVPs and is, you know, looks like he might be on his way to the hall of fame, really in Lamar Jackson. He doesn't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And then I think he probably recognizes a little bit what I said. He's, he plays the game a little differently than Lamar Jackson. He doesn't want to do that. And then I think he probably recognizes a little bit what I said. He's he plays the game a little differently than Lamar, right? Lamar came into the Ravens and it was like, oh my gosh, these runs and holy cow. He's running down the field and spins spinning off a block or tacklers and splitting people and stiff arming people. Jayden Daniels is more. Hey, I'm looking. I want to throw the ball. I want to make a
Starting point is 00:19:46 great decision. Okay, nothing's there. Alright, now I got out on the edge and I go from there. So, there is a different style of play. Jaden Daniels definitely has a little bit more pocket presence, pocket passer in his DNA, maybe the Lamar did
Starting point is 00:19:59 early in his career. Were you surprised when you heard the news the Jets had fired Robert Sala? Of course. You had to be right. I mean shocked. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Shocked. I mean you win this week and you're in first place in the
Starting point is 00:20:11 AFC East. Uh the strength of your football team is the defense. He's a defense head coach. I mean nobody's done what they did last week to the Minnesota Vikings offense. We've seen the Texans. We've seen the forty-niners, right?
Starting point is 00:20:23 The the Vikings have marched down everybody and just exploded offensively. They couldn't do that against the Jets, because the Jets D is real. It is real. So yes, I was shocked. And I don't even know what to make of it. It just seems like maybe Woody had this thought in his brain in the off season, didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:20:40 They go to UK, where we know Woody was the ambassador in the UK. They kind of get embarrassed and lose You know the emotions of that the offense has not been very good You know was there a meeting on Monday morning about or about you know Maybe we should change the coordinator and have a different play caller. Did that get you know the the Conversations going or I think that was Tuesday morning, excuse me. You know, I have a hard time believing, oh yeah, Rogers and Woody Johnson talked the night before,
Starting point is 00:21:10 but they didn't talk about the most important thing in their organization. Okay. Okay, guys. Sure. I'll believe you. So yeah, I don't believe much of what comes out of Rogers' mouth anymore. And yeah, it's a crazy situation. I do love Rogers saying he resents any notion that he had anything to do with his fight. No, it's a it's a crazy situation. I do love Roger saying he resents any any notion that he had anything to do with his fire. No, he's earned that come on Chris even if he did it even if he's telling the truth, he has earned us not trusting him. Okay like that. Well, it definitely has
Starting point is 00:21:34 and if I would say if he didn't talk to Woody Johnson about this, then they're they're stupid. That's all I would say right like that would be bad business on their part. So I don't believe that. Yes, he's made me not believe much of what he said. And come on, Mikey A knows as a jet fan, they've all they've done is bow down to Aaron Rogers ever since he's gotten there. So, oh yeah, now this one, they didn't listen to him.
Starting point is 00:21:58 They've listened to him on everything else about every subject in the world. And he gives nine state of the union dresses on the team every week, but not on the biggest subject in the team's history. No, he didn't talk about that one. Okay, guys, sure. Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:22:10 The fairy godmother is real too. So yeah, I don't believe any of that crap. And here's the other aspect why I'm on it. Because you guys know Aaron Rodgers at his best. I think he's arguably the greatest quarterback of all time. But he's not a top 10 quarterback right now. He's not that. And I'm sick of people jumping on Nathaniel Hackett.
Starting point is 00:22:32 This offense is Aaron Rodgers offense, OK? To speak to our point again, that it's all Rodgers. He's King Rodgers with the Jets organization. Nathaniel Hackett did not run this offense like this when he was the offensive coordinator of the Jacksonville Jaguars, not run this offense like this when he was the offensive coordinator of the Jacksonville Jaguars, nor was it exactly like this when he was the head coach of the Denver Broncos. So this is what Aaron Rodgers wants to do.
Starting point is 00:22:53 This is why Green Bay got exhausted with him. And he wants to throw it three yards and three yards and three yards and then behind the line of scrimmage minus three yards. And he hopes everybody else will work that way from him. And this is him. So like what's going to happen now that they change the Todd Downing? What like is it? They really going to change? I gotta see that to believe that one.
Starting point is 00:23:12 So how big of a deal is that to change offensive coordinators right now? How are they going to change so much about how bad they change? I think they did it for appearances to give the appearance that Aaron Rodgers is not running the team. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, what are they going to do? Um, um, Aaron, let's put three tight ends in and then run it up the middle. He'll be like, um, shotgun, uh, three yard pass. Okay. Hey, let's do this, Aaron. Um, shotgun, two yard pass. Okay. I audible. I saw something. I had audible to that, the two yard pass. Like, I don't think it's gonna change much. I, like I said, I gotta see it to believe it. You know, Todd Downing does have a different style
Starting point is 00:23:49 and how he calls plays on that side of the ball. I think we'll know pretty quickly, but I don't know why Rogers wouldn't wanna change. Like they ran a few play action passes last week and he threw a deep comeback to, to Garrett Wilson on the right side. And I know I told you this last week. I'd love to see more of that.
Starting point is 00:24:08 He threw it great. And I think Garrett Wilson was like, whoa. And he actually dropped the ball, like went off his face because I think he was like, whoa, he threw it more than 10 yards down the field on a different route than a go round like and he dropped it. I think it was shock. But like, what about those plays do you not like? I don't understand why they wouldn't want to change.
Starting point is 00:24:25 You know, as I told you last week, the offense is so predictable. I sit in the NBC screening room and call out his plays all the time. So if you think I'm calling them out, what do you think Brian Flores was coaching his team last week? What do you think Sean Payton and Vance Joseph did?
Starting point is 00:24:44 When they face good defensive coordinators, they're going to be all over his basic stuff that he does on the offensive side of the ball. Billy made a strange face, had an odd reaction to you saying, you're calling the plays before Aaron runs them. What happened there, Billy? Well, because like Tony Romo parlayed that into like $80 million. Like Chris, what are we doing? Let's do that same thing. Let's call it Romo's age. I know. Go on there. Nobody wants to give me the number one job on a network. Right? Why not?
Starting point is 00:25:09 Because my career wasn't good enough. I barely hang on to where I am because my career wasn't good enough. TV execs, they love big names that don't really follow the sport. They love that. So I can't do that. Name names.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Tony Romo didn't turn it into weekly appearances on God Bless Football. Thank you. No, no. Well, he's not quite as big time as me, so he can't quite do that yet. I want the big time quarterback who's not watching football. Who is it? Brady? Say it. Do it. Come on. No, Brady's watching football. Okay. Brady's watching football.
Starting point is 00:25:38 For sure. Akeman. What are you doing? Akeman. No, no. It's not them. Them is the... I have no problem with those guys. Those guys watch the sport. They live it. They love it. They don't. the there is hope for the Jets offense. I saw you tweet this out. The Bucks offense with Tom Brady really didn't start clicking till late in that season when they won the Super Bowl. So, I guess there is hope if you're Jeff in that
Starting point is 00:26:10 that that offense will get going at some point, correct? Yeah, that that's why II don't understand the decision to fire him, right? II don't think any of us expected them to be five and oh here. I know they're a really good team, right? The roster is phenomenal. So, yeah, two and three is disappointing. I get that but I really good team, right? The roster is phenomenal. So yeah, two and three is disappointing. I get that, but I did not expect them to be like, oh, high functioning, unbelievable looking team here right away. It takes time. It takes time for everybody to get on the same page as Rogers and what he wants to
Starting point is 00:26:39 do and how he wants to run that offense. And yeah, that was my point. I mean, we were sitting there in week 12 with the Bucks and Brady going, man, I don't know. They gonna make it in the playoffs? I don't even know if they're gonna get there. It doesn't look good. And all of a sudden it hit that point of the year, week 13, 14.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It was like, ooh, that kind of looks good. Oh my gosh, oh wait, we're getting in the playoffs and they're kind of on fire on offense. And then that continued. So yeah, that to me was the shocking part there, but we'll see where this goes now, especially with Todd Downing having more say on the offense. What did you make of the Patriots decision to start Drake May? I like it. I do. I'm always in favor of that. Get them out there, get going, right? Like
Starting point is 00:27:17 you guys have heard me say before, you can't practice 70,000 fans screaming and guys literally trying to rip your head off for real for the first time. There's no way to emulate that at the quarterback position. Get them out there, get going. It's going to be a tough first test. Yeah, the Texas defense is good. I expect them to make a few mistakes in the football game. I really do. But we know what Jacoby Percett is. We know what the end potential is there. This is a kid that they believe in. He does have potential. And I think with them you hope, hey, he gets going here, he gets playing, he starts to show, you know, in a few weeks, hey, whoa, there's some talent here, there's some light at the end of the tunnel with the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And hopefully by the end of the year he can be playing well enough to where free agents that are out there will go, you know what, the Patriots, Drake May, I want to go play there. They got some stuff working there. And I think that's got to be part of their plan. But yeah, it won't be easy at first. We know they're not a super talented team. What about someone like Spencer Radler? What do they do with him if he starts
Starting point is 00:28:18 succeeding because Derek Carr is not going anywhere? No, no. But I've got to look, Derek Carr's contract overall. I would think that they could probably get out of the deal with them and then within this year, if not next year, I'm sure this year there's probably some sort of cap hit. His base next year is 30, his base the next year is 50. Look at cap hits here. 51 million cap hit next year.
Starting point is 00:28:43 What's his guaranteed money left? Do you know or anything there? I would think they could get out of this this year, after this year, if possible, probably with a cap charge, but nothing too egregious, but we'll see, we'll have to do some more digging there. One, I don't expect Spencer Ratliff to be a threat to take anybody's job quite yet.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I mean, first off, their their offensive line is banged up. They got their ass whooped against the Chiefs, like to a point that I didn't expect them to get back. And I guess they were a little more banged up than I expected they were when I had to pick the game earlier last week. But that was a I think more of a demoralizing loss rather than, oh man, we we played tough against the Chiefs and now we're pissed off
Starting point is 00:29:29 and we're gonna play better this week. I think that's more of like, whoa, we're not even in their class and we got injuries and we lost our quarterback. Uh-oh. And I don't expect them to put up much of a fighting effort this week in this football game against the Buccaneers. I don't, I think the Buccaneers will be pissed off
Starting point is 00:29:44 and ready to go. And yeah, would that offensive line be in the way it is? And Spencer Ratliff not being a elite thrower of the football? I'm not expecting big things there, Billy. Chris Simms is with us. Should the Steelers go to Russell Wilson? I understand it if they do. I mean, last week certainly was a little concerning.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I've been wanting to say, hey, stay with Justin Fields. The style of play, it all works. He's been getting better. But last week was all Justin Fields. I watched that film on Tuesday. He missed throws. He made bad decisions. He missed people that are wide open and didn't even
Starting point is 00:30:22 look at him or looked at him and I don't know just didn't throw out throw it to them anyways. So he cracked the door open for for Russell Wilson. The fact that he was a full participant yesterday. I mean, I guess I'm expecting him to start this week. I am. But I do if it is Justin Fields, right? He better play well. If he just plays OK, I think it'll be the last week of Justin Fields. I do think that. But I guess in my heart of hearts, I'm expecting to see Russell Wilson Sunday. Sims, a lot of videos floating around
Starting point is 00:30:52 of George Pickens in that game kind of running half-assed. What do you do with someone like that when on film you're just not trying? Yeah. It's not, first off, at least the plays I saw, right? And I didn't sit there and go, let me see if he's loafing or hustling here when I'm watching the film. I got too much film to watch sometimes. They're like dig into that kind of stuff. But like, I see what people are talking about. I saw some of the clips. Now some of the plays where, hey, it's a runaway or whatever, and he's not involved, and it doesn't't really matter and I think people are like picking on him a little bit and there are some routes down the field where you'd like to say hey run the route totally you don't know the quarterback's not gonna throw you the ball right I know this is a look where he shouldn't throw you the ball and I think that's
Starting point is 00:31:39 where he's smart and he goes wait this ain't coming to me on this coverage but it's still not a good look and he takes a little off the gas pedal to a point to where, yeah, it jumps out. Not that everybody runs every route across football at 100%, right? You could see Tyree kill in a game against the Dolphins when he goes, wait, I'm going deep. They're in a coverage where I'm not going to get it.
Starting point is 00:31:59 He doesn't go 100% full speed, but he doesn't jog. He still runs pretty hard, you know what I mean? And I think that's what you want to see from Pickens. But yeah, you know, this is the problem with their offense, their lack of passing game. And Pickens is a little bit of a pain in the butt that way. And when he doesn't get the ball and get things his way, he can seem to get frustrated.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And you know, for lack of a better way to say it, pout or get frustrated, whatever you want to say there. But yeah, they need to get that right. And they need him in the game because he's their only offensive player that is capable of doing outside, you know, the realm of what's drawn up on the playbook. Chris, it was interesting. And I'm wondering your thoughts here.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I think for the first week this season, I could safely say that last weekend, Kayla Williams outplayed Jaden Daniels. Do you agree? I agree. Like two weeks in a row, Bears offense going like this, creativity and stuff, right? You know, they had some veteran players a few weeks ago have a meeting with Shane Waldron and they said, you're not trusting us. We got to open up the offense. It's too basic. Mercedes Lewis being one of those guys. It does look like ever since that point, they've been like,
Starting point is 00:33:09 okay, let's open up the vault. I was thoroughly impressed watching that film on Tuesday morning. One Caleb Williams is special. Yes. His ability to scramble and make people miss behind the line of scrimmage is up there with anybody in football. I mean, he had a touchdown run called back that was one of the damnedest six or seven yard scramble runs you'll see, right? His arm is off the charts good. It's off the charts.
Starting point is 00:33:35 On the run, I think he has the strongest arm in football. And I don't say that lightly because Josh Allen has like one of the strongest arms I've ever seen on the run. So, and same with my homes. So they're special. But the offense has got it going. They do a lot of different stuff. You know me guys, like for a great offense,
Starting point is 00:33:51 you need to have a zig for every zag. You got to have checks and balances. You got to give, hey, we're running this play. Oh, it's a play that looks like that. Oh, but it's different. We got a curve ball off of our curve ball. And they got that going. And there was a nice flow to the offense, let alone they're
Starting point is 00:34:04 blocking a little upfront and DeAndre Swift is running mad. So your rights do gods and I'm excited to see the Bears again this week. I'm picking them to win that game against Jacksonville because Jacksonville's defense stinks, but Jacksonville is desperate and that does scare me a little bit leads me right to the question Billy should be asking you every single week is Trevor Lawrence good Trevor Lawrence last week he's on the way to Canton Hall, baby.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah, that's where he's going. He did play awesome last week. I did not watch the film, but I kept my eye on it on Sunday. He made all the things we complained about the other weeks, where we went like, guys open open you got to hit it and hey You're 55 million dollars a year. You got to make a few plays that are like hey, nothing's there But it still works right like the great ones do like my homes or Allen or burrow do so much of the time or Lamar Like oh the defense won, but they didn't win We still got 20 yards because I'm fucking awesome at quarterback, right?
Starting point is 00:35:02 And that's what we saw a little. There were some plays last week and some throws that were unreal and eye popping. And to me, the other thing too is feed the ball to Brian Thomas Jr. all day long. They should, the offense should be all around him. And I'll say it again for like the fourth week in a row, Tank Bigsby is their best running back.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yes. It's not close. And they need to keep giving him the ball as well. He should be. Big is their best running back. Yes, it's it's not close and they need to keep keep giving him the ball as well. He should be their number one running back Chris. I think I think he will be and they might start a
Starting point is 00:35:34 TN and go. Oh yeah, you're you're the starter and then like the fourth play of the game. They bring in big big big, but I do think last week was a little inkling of them showing like I think Big's be the guy and we're going to
Starting point is 00:35:44 start to infuse him in the offense more and more Chris Chris, we're impressed with Caleb. We're impressed with Jayden. How could you not be? This has a chance to be one of the best rookie quarterback classes of all time, if not the best. And I say that we have a brought up Bo Nix who continues to get better every goddamn week. He's good, Chris. He is good. Listen, and this is why I think you guys heard me before the year, and I was excited about this crop of quarterbacks. And I think even if J.J. McCarthy was the quarterback of the Vikings, he'd be doing good things too. I'm not saying they'd be 5-0 like Sam Darnold and that, but he'd be doing, we'd be going, damn, for a rookie, this looks good. Right? Because these four guys can play quarterback. They weren't just like, oh, he's got a strong arm, or oh, he he's just really fast and we'll see if we can work on all the other stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:30 This is like these are guys that had all those attributes and you were like, man, they are good decision makers. They got a lot of different throws that they can, you know, access in their in their in their bag of clubs. They work the pocket the right way. And Bo Nix, yeah, it's not pretty, but the big thing is he doesn't make mistakes. He usually completes what's there to be had. He makes a little bit of a splash wow play from time to time. They're not as good on offense as the Bears or the Washington commanders, but he's playing the position the right way. And then they're playing through their defense but yeah, Bo Nicks is good and it will continue to get better and it
Starting point is 00:37:08 might not show itself to great statistics this year but as the future goes on and they get better players around him, I have no doubt that he's going to be surgical as a quarterback. You have the Bengals and Giants on Sunday nights. You can't go to the game. You can't hang out with the people like you like to in the 400th level because you gotta work that night, right? But I am wondering Daniel Jones
Starting point is 00:37:29 seems to be playing better like he's he's playing better Chris No, I mean Daniel Jones is he's been solid all year for the most part. I know he threw an interception on a screen pass against the Vikings early in the year and then he threw a the
Starting point is 00:37:43 game was over and it was 28 to six and he threw a late interception in that game. But for the most part, you can't sit there and look at the Giants and just go, oh, Daniel Jones is the problem. Blah, blah, blah. Again, not a superstar. I get that. But kept them in the game of the Cowboys. Yeah. We would like to see them make a few throws and get them over the hump. Right. But, but yeah, it's been positive. And I think they're finding their way as an offense. You know, I hope neighbors is back this week because if neighbors is back, I think this game will be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I think it's going to be fun no matter what. Right. Because Cincinnati's defense stinks. And I do think Daniel Jones is throwing the ball well. And I think the giants have enough weapons on that side of the ball that they can stress out that bangles defense and that can be a fun game so yeah it's been solid it is now I'm gonna pick the
Starting point is 00:38:29 bangles to win the game but I don't feel good about it I wouldn't bet on it because of that bangles defense they scare me right but like what I do want to say is this right Daria Slayton Malik neighbors that's a pretty damn good to like home run hitters that That'll be fun to watch. But man, on the other side of the ball, then there's no cave on Tibiddo. And the Giants secondary is not good. And if Joe Burrow and company had a better record,
Starting point is 00:38:55 he would be the MVP of football right now. Joe Burrow. No doubt. I mean, decisions and dot after dot after dot throwing the football the last few weeks has been incredible. I think that'll continue. I think they outscored the Giants.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And let me just say this too. Jamar Chase is definitely the best receiver in football this year to this point. I think so. I think he has separated himself. And even I would say he's better than Justin Jefferson right now, which I know that's a good friendly rivalry there. Burrow has to be so frustrated by this
Starting point is 00:39:25 defense. They were in the Kansas City game. They should have won that game. They've been in every game they played this year. That's right. I'll throw New England out, but Burrow has to be frustrated. Chris, I said earlier this week on the show, I still think the Bengals are going to make the playoffs. In fact, I think the Bengals are going to reel off the next four. There'll be five and four before the next time they play Baltimore. Do you agree?
Starting point is 00:39:45 I, you know, I'm not giving up on them totally as the playoffs yet. I guess I have enough faith that I think there's enough talent and the coach is good enough on the defensive side of the ball that they can become formidable on defense. There's going to be a lot of pressure on their offense to carry the squad.
Starting point is 00:40:03 But yeah, the next few weeks, I hear you there. When you talk about, yeah, Giants this week, the Browns, which are a dumpster fire. Home with the Eagles, yep. Home with the Eagles, which, you know, it'll be a good game, probably a coin toss game. But then the Raiders the next week after that, definitely some winnable games.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But it is gonna take Joe Burrow being on fire. And I think even against some of those poor teams, they're going to still have to score some pretty high scores there to win those football games. But you're so right. He would be the MVP. In fact, I'm not certain he's not the MVP. Well, I know, right?
Starting point is 00:40:36 You look at his stats. The record hurts, of course. But yeah, 12 touchdowns, two interceptions, right? I mean, he's what? Six in the league and passing yards. His completion percentage is, I'm sure, right up there with anybody at the top of the sport. He's been playing damn good football.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I mean, come on, he's Joe freaking Burrow. And to me, as I told you, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar Jackson, and I would probably say CJ Stroud, I think are in a little bit of a class of their own right now with my homes being in his own class. But if the Bengals played Kansas City, this is how you measure it. All right. If the Bengals played Kansas City,
Starting point is 00:41:14 I'm not certain who I take in that game. I hear you. They match up with the Chiefs. They do. They do. There's no doubt about that. We'll see. That hurt them last week. They blew that one. They had chances to win that control the game and get away with a victory and didn't pull it off.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And that definitely hurt. We'll get you out of here in just a second here. I want to get your thoughts on the Jets and Bills. Do the Jets have a chance in this game? Definitely, 100% they have a chance. The Bills offense stinks. It's everything we always talk about again. It's one guy.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Now he didn't play good last week. And I'll clearly state that. I talked about that on my podcast on Wednesday. Right. Allen in the first half of the game was not good decisions, miss some throws you expect him to make and got off reads too quick. Like he expected that like, Oh, he'll be covered here against his defense or I'm not going to have enough time to wait for him. Let me move and get out of the pocket. It expected that, like, oh, he'll be covered here against his defense. Or I'm not going to have enough time to wait for him. Let me move and get out of the pocket. And it was like, no, no, he's wide open. And you got off him too quick.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I don't know why. So he didn't play his best. But like, when I think about the Bills and then the Jets defense, who I think is awesome, I just go, I don't see how they're going to move the ball consistently. And he's not going to be able to make magic plays like just like last week. They're too fast up front, the Texans and the and the Jets to where
Starting point is 00:42:31 when he scrambles, he's not going to be able to buy the time that we see him buy against Jacksonville or some of the other teams where he's unstoppable. So I do do look at that. If the Bills, I think the best thing about the Bills other than the Josh Allen is their offensive line. I honestly want to kind of say to them like what I've said to the Baltimore Ravens, become a great running team. Get teams to bend to your running game so much to where now you start to get some favorable matchups and you can access the pass game and be explosive, right? That's what the Ravens did. Great running game, great running game, great running game. Bangles are like, oh shit, it's a great running game.
Starting point is 00:43:04 We got to go all in. And I called it last week. I said it would be the week Lamar Jackson throws for 350. I think that's what the Bills have to do to maximize what they are. And then their defense, again, solid but not great. I take the Jets to win the game. I'm going to take the Jets because of that defense.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And I think there might be a little bit of a boost or a rallying cry with a team. I'm going to take them to win 20 to 17. the the the the the the the the the and I feel like we haven't heard anything about it. No, well, of course not. Because like, you know, a smart player or somebody like myself,
Starting point is 00:43:46 when you bang your head on the ground, you go, ow, my ankle hurts, right? Even though you're seeing three. Because you don't want to like have concussion protocol. And you know, can you tell me four plus four? Oh, you didn't answer it quick enough. I think you've got to keep you in there for another week, right?
Starting point is 00:43:59 So no, no real football player is ever going to tell the truth about their head, none, none. And that's me included, and I'm not mad at them for it either. That's just the way it is. Guys like Josh Allen, Mahomes, whatever, like unless they're staggering and stumbling, like they're not gonna keep them out of the game. They love the sport too much. They're grown men. They know how important they are to the team and they're gonna lie to the doctors every time. And that's what he did and I would do the same. But I
Starting point is 00:44:25 think what people are questioning is the protocol. There's supposed to be a doctor on there. Yeah, nothing to do with the team that won't let him go back into the game because he knows he's concussed. Well, yeah, and again, you know, I don't you know, the definition of concuss has changed a little bit too. I mean, you know, 25 years ago, it just when we call it a concussion now, a guy would just been like, man, I got hit hard in the head. I mean, 25 years ago, it just, when we call it a concussion, now a guy would have just been like, man, I got hit hard
Starting point is 00:44:47 in the head. I got my bell rung. But I mean, so what? That happens seven times a game. I'm going to keep playing. I mean, so we've become a little more sensitive there. And just because you hit your head of the ground and maybe now there's technically,
Starting point is 00:45:00 I don't know, a concussion, again, like if he's answering all questions right and he knows everything right on the On the dot knows where he is and he's answering like what are you gonna say? Well, he hit his head hard So we just we gotta say it's a concussion I don't know we've seen some boxers can take a right hook and a roundhouse a little better than others They can they can take that and still function my head is half cement I can take a shot to the head and be like, what? Maybe I think more clearly now. I don't know. That's just the way we're wired. And
Starting point is 00:45:31 don't think that the human element of the doctor who knows like, whoa, this is the most important team player to the franchise. And everybody's asking me, is he okay? Is he okay? Is he okay? He's okay, right? He's okay. Don't think that they don't fall into the trap of that personal moment as well. And I think that happens here. That is kind of what it looked like, right? Because it looked like he got knocked out and then they ran over, they gave him smelling salts and like, your name is Josh Allen, right? Not. And then someone like had their hand on his head and like, yes. And they're like, okay, right back out there, Josh. You're good to go. This is a sins though. Did you expect any different answer than what we just got? I mean, he's Phil's son. we just got. I mean, he's Phil son. Exactly. Exactly. I'm a Jersey meathead who was born from a guy who's a Kentucky meathead that grew up on a farm. So yeah, and you know, my my mom's a daughter of a butcher and you know, sure. Family's
Starting point is 00:46:16 full of Jersey meatheadedness. And yeah, that's just again, I think a lot of the old school football players think that way. And you know, especially the quarterbacks who are fully invested, don't want to ever come out and know what they are to their teams. It's going to be hard to pin them to some of these concussions at times, unless it's just blatantly obvious.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Gerald McCoy, who played at Oklahoma, said Texas has not played anyone yet. They haven't been challenged yet. They're going to play someone this weekend. That is Oklahoma. Your thoughts? Well, I don't know if I you know I don't totally disagree with what they're saying there. I mean Michigan of course is a top what 15 top 20 team now yeah but but yeah not not a team that
Starting point is 00:47:00 I really felt like could match up with Texas and threaten them. This is probably our first that I really felt like could match up with Texas and threaten them. This is probably our first real test. So we'll see where it goes. Oklahoma is a team that for whatever reason has Texas's number. Going back to my days, they're kind of like in our heads. I think the rivalry is like they look at themselves
Starting point is 00:47:18 as like the little brother, even though I'm like, wait, you've won way more national championships. And like, they'll be in a big game and like Texas is nowhere involved in the national scene. They'll still be doing horns down. You'd be like, you're in the national championship. We're like the 70th ranked team in football. And you're still thinking about us. Like stop. But yeah, it means a lot to them. But I think we'll be ready. I will. And then of course we better be ready because we got Georgia next week. Yeah. Well, yes, this will get ready because we got Georgia next week. Yeah. Yes. This will get
Starting point is 00:47:46 you ready for Georgia. That's exactly right. Exactly right. This will get you properly ready. Uh Met Yankees. Uh well, listen, if they make the World Series, me, you, Mike and Mike, we go to a game together. One game, just one
Starting point is 00:47:57 game. Me, you, Mike. I would love. I would love that. Okay. I would love that. Alright. Yup. You want Billy there or what do you think? I mean, 400. We can slum it with Billy. 400. Yeah, we can slum it with Billy or I can slum it with Billy. The tailgate before I'm surprised. Mikey. I didn't know Mikey was the Yankees fan.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I mean, I guess I did. I didn't know that. But Jets and Mets fans usually go together. Correct. Yes. No, I'm a Boston hater. I hate Boston as opposed to a jump to least. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Okay. Yeah, I got you. So that that drove you towards the Yankees fandom. Okay. I hear that. I don't I don't hate the Mets, right? I'm not one of these New Yorkers. That's like a Yankees fandom. Okay, I hear that. I don't hate the Mets, right? I'm not one of these New Yorkers that's like a Yankees fan. And I'm like, oh, I hate it.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I enjoyed watching the game last night. I'd been watching. I love watching the New York Mets fans go crazy, right? They go through their struggles a little bit. Yes. Good for you. I will say though, I'm scared to listen. We got a plan for the World Series. I'm scared to the world series because I think they'll
Starting point is 00:48:46 have our number. Team of Destiny, you got it, right? I want to be like, come on, Padres, get in there. At least if we have an excuse, if we lose to them. I don't want to hear us losing to the Mets and hear from my Mets fans, friends, all that. Yeah, you will have no excuse, by the way, if you lose to the Padres. None. I know that's going to be a good one there. Padres Dodgers, see who wins that one. I'm rooting for the Padres just because I'm not going to do that. Well, I have no excuse, by the way, if you lose to the Padres. None. I know that's going to be a good one there. Padres Dodgers. See who wins that one. I'm rooting for the Padres just because I'm sick of the Dodgers and the Padres are fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:49:13 They really are. They really are. I'd love to see them in the World Series. I would. All right. It's a date. If it's a subway series, me, you, Mikey, a Billy go to one game together. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Okay. Make it happen. I ain't sitting in the 400 levels. Don't worry. I'll get the if we do this, we'll I'll get the tickets. I don't sit when I go to the Yankees game. I am bougie spoiled mother. That's what I had. If I'm not the first six or seven rows, I'm not going to the game. Let's be bougie spoiled mother together. I'm not going to the **** game. Okay? Yes! Let's be bougie spoiled motherf**kers together! Yes!
Starting point is 00:49:46 I'm a man of the people in the Legends seats. Yeah. I'm a man of the rich people. Exactly. BFT with Mike Florio on Peacock, the Unbundied Podcast, Football Night in America. They have the Beggles and Giants coming up this weekend. It's the best part of our week. Thank you, Chris.
Starting point is 00:50:03 We appreciate it. Always, guys. It is time for this the best part of our week. Thank you, Chris. We appreciate it. Always, guys. It is time for this week's edition of Stee Ya Got presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. the Penn State is a five point favorite. They're taking on USC. USC coming off a loss. Penn State's gonna lose the game. They might lose two this year, but it's not gonna be this week. Penn State will win. They will cover. They will win by 10 points on the road.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Pitt, they're taking on Cal, minus three by the two and a half. Pitt wins. They cover. Pitt wins by seven points. Illinois taking on Purdue. Illinois is minus 19. This is more a bet against Purdue than it is
Starting point is 00:51:06 on Illinois. Why? Purdue might be the worst team in college football. Illinois wins, they cover, they win by 24 points at home. Georgia State minus one and a half, taking on Old Dominion University. I know a ton about both these teams. Georgia State wins. They cover. They win by six points at home. BYU minus five. Take it on Arizona. Billy, you know what you don't do if you're a college football
Starting point is 00:51:34 team? What? You don't go to Provo on a Saturday night. If you do, you get what you ask for which is death. Oh. Well, that's a little bit hard. But you're going to lose the game. BYU minus five. Take lose the game. BYU minus five take it on Arizona
Starting point is 00:51:47 BYU they win they cover BYU by ten points at home. The Gators take it on Tennessee. We all thought Tennessee was a lot better than they are. They're not that good. Florida. They're sneaky good. I'm telling you right now they have found
Starting point is 00:52:00 something there with their quarterback situation. Tennessee wins the game. The Gators cover Tennessee by three points at home. Ohio State, Oregon, battle of undefeated teams. Ohio State is minus three on the road. Buy it down to two and a half. Ohio State wins. They cover. They win by ten
Starting point is 00:52:16 points on the road. LSU plus three and a half. Take it on Mississippi. Buy it up to four. LSU is going to win the game outright, which defeats the purpose of buying up the point, but do it anyway because I told you to it. I'm hot. LSU wins the game outright. They win by a field goal. Iowa State, sneaky good team, undefeated. They're at West Virginia. It's a
Starting point is 00:52:37 three-point favorite. Buy it down to two and a half. Iowa State wins. They cover Iowa State by eight points on the road. And finally, Colorado plus four, Kicking out Kansas State. Colorado wins. They win the game outright. They cover the spread. Colorado by three points. NFL week five, six and oh a week ago. Twenty-two, sixteen and one on the season. Bears minus two. Taking on the Jaguars, the Bears win and cover. They win by ten points. Texans minus seven at Patriots,
Starting point is 00:53:06 buy it down to 6.5. Texans win and cover. They win by 14 points. Packers minus 5 over the cards. Pack win by 10. Steelers at Raiders. Steelers by 7 over the Raiders, buy it down to 2.5. Broncos plus 3, taking on the Chargers. Broncos win the game outright. They win by seven points, they cover the spread. Bengals over the Giants minus three. Bengals win by 10. And the Bills beat the Jets and cover the spread. The Bills win by 10 points in New York. Those are the picks everyone.
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Starting point is 00:54:42 see dkng.co.ftball. Ontario bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance for additional terms and responsible gaming resources. See dkng.co slash FT ball. Mike, thank you for returning. We, we, I gotta be honest when you showed up week one, which was two weeks ago for us, coming up. Mike you Mike. Thank you for returning. We gotta be honest when you showed up week one, which was two weeks ago
Starting point is 00:55:12 for us, I did not plan on having you back for back to back consecutive weeks. I thought you get sick of us. Usually people do. Thank you for sticking with us though. We appreciate it. This is the highlight of my week, man. I'm
Starting point is 00:55:23 just like waiting on the times coming in that we're going to do this. So, right. I mean, your highlights and Gordy's highlights are a little bit different. I mean, okay, do you survive the storm? Okay, I did. I'm in Orlando. I
Starting point is 00:55:37 came to Orlando. I haven't not been home yet but I'm fine here in Orlando as of right now. Yes. Alright. And Mojo, thank you as always for being shirtless. It's the gimmick this season. Did you just give me finger guns? Is that what you did? Singular finger gun. Singular what?
Starting point is 00:55:50 That's a 15-yard penalty this year. That's a fine. Yes, it is. It's a 15-yard penalty. It's a personal foul. That's why I'm here, man. I'm just throwing alley-oops for talking points. Alright, Carl Douglas is not here. I understand, and Mikey Ye has a question for Gordy that we'll get to in a second. But I understand Billy that Gordy had a horrific week. Is that accurate?
Starting point is 00:56:12 Yeah, so last week Gordy went 0 and 5, which I think was the first time that happened this season. On the other side, Carl went 4 and 1, which was a great week for Carl. So he won the week and he's not here. Yeah, he won the week, he's not here. Yeah, that's what he likes to do. I mean, he wins. Well, fill in everything in between.
Starting point is 00:56:30 How'd the rest of it go? Yeah, so Mike had another rough week at 1-4. K-Funk had a 2-3 week. Share Bear had a 2-3 week. And Mojo had a 3-2 week. So I've also updated the standings, if you would like to get those. We might as well because we haven't discussed this all season I feel like.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Alright so Chris Humphries a detective Matt of a 600 win percentage. Carl has a 575 win percentage. Mojo and Kay Funk are tied at a 440 win percentage right now which is interesting. Chair Bear and Cheyenne have a 400 win percentage. Gordy right now has a 360 win percentage after a terrible week, and Mike has a 300 win percentage. So we're not including those first three where I went 15 and 7. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Let me adjust that. You're right. You were 15 and 7. So I'll have a new record for you shortly. All right. Yeah, I don't even know what weeks we've counted at this point. I'm just saying we're all over the place. It should be week two NFL week two to now is what it should be. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 00:57:33 I mean, Gordy thinks it's Tuesday. So, Gordy, Mikey does have a question for you. He asked me before we came on air here. I think it's a fair question that needs to be asked. Mikey, go ahead. Gordy, which Gronkowski had a worse week? Was it you going 0 for 5, or was it your brother Rob with how he was portrayed on that FX show? Because that was absolutely hysterical. Did you write that?
Starting point is 00:57:58 Were you involved in the planning process there? The one thing was, I definitely wasn't involved in the planning process. I would have probably done an even worse job. But that character of him, come on, that was absolutely epic though. Get hyped. I would like to comment on this because I have some breaking information related to this clip.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Really? Wow. Okay. You're talking about the Hernandez television show. Sure. Yes. Yes. The man who played Roberto Gwakalowski's on the show is actually my cousin. Really? Wow. Well, that's my cousin. Moxley, you're a famous actor.
Starting point is 00:58:44 How come they couldn't get you to play Rob? Wow. Well, that's- Mojo, you're a famous actor. How come they couldn't get you to play Rob? Yeah. Well, because his cousin's a better actor than him, that's why. I have like an intelligence level that doesn't allow me to go down to play this character. See, that's what you like. He came up, that's setting him up.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Mojo, don't you have a cousin that was like the face of Depends or something? That's him, that's the same guy. That's the same guy. Mojo, don't you have a cousin that was like the face of depends or something? That's him. This is the same guy. He's the he's the face of the high noon high noon brand. He's Todd Powers, the high noon
Starting point is 00:59:17 lifestyle guard. Right. Been in a ton of movies and shows. I mean, this is this is the guy and hey, man, he he went viral yesterday. People loved him as Rob. They thought it was great. Get him on the pod. Alright, let's go right now to see if he's free. Alright, I mean he can come on next week. That's
Starting point is 00:59:29 fine. Just make sure he's on next week. Okay, I mean that who knows if it's still going to be hot by next week. We got a strike on our inside. You are right. That's mojo. That's why I love you, man. You get this guys. Are you ready for
Starting point is 00:59:42 the games? We're going to get right to him as as mojo efforts to get his cousin on. Uh we're gonna get to the games. We have Carl Spinks who was not here. He wins. He doesn't show up. Uh so, we're gonna go to uh Bills at Jets first Monday night game. Jets are two and a half point favorites at home. They fired their coach. The Bills coming off a bad loss. Mojo, I am gonna start with you here. Bills at Jets Monday night
Starting point is 01:00:04 football. Jets plus two and a half. Who you taking? Oh, we're the the Jets. I want to so bad, I'm keeping it simple. Yeah've been writing the bills out out and there's something going on there right now that chemistry hasn't been good recently I'm going with the Jets. I know it's crazy Gordy because their chemistry is so good the Jets Share better just said he loves Buffalo and he knows the Gronk brothers are from there. So he wants to go with the Bills. Okay, how about you Share Bear up or down right now? Can you tell us? So when I got here,
Starting point is 01:01:34 Brandon won 13 straight hands for over a thousand of hands. So he was up over 13,000. Brandon was. Is that good? I think lost all 13. Like his fits. Yeah, tell Brandon, who's Brandon like? the in a casino in Vegas? Yeah, I guess Brandon keeps winning. He keeps saying, too many. So I guess the dealer is being busted. They're playing blackjack.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Sylar at your blackjack table, winning hand after hand, screaming at you. It's a fantastic sight. Gordy, I'm going to keep it right here, OK? Bengals at Giants. Giants plus 3 and 1 half at home. Who are you taking? Home division, dog. Giants.ants plus three and a half at home. Will you take it? Home division dog Giants.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Alright, share bear. I forgot he gave me his pick. Should we just make one up for him? Yeah, yes, yes, I love this. Courtney, I love how tired you are. Good job is cold. You gotta think that share bear has what? He's partied in New York City.
Starting point is 01:02:42 You know he went to Cincinnati before he didn't really like it. The girls were in his face. He's got to go with the Giants, right? Yes. Yes. We all agree that he has to go with the Giants. That seems like smart logic. Okay. What are you thinking in New York? All right. Turn off Vegas for a second. We'll come back to you on the next game. Go find those guys and make sure they're okay. Mojo, who you taking here? Bengals and Giants, Giants plus three and a half at home, Sunday Night Football. Let's go. Bungles who have let me down every single time I picked them this year or against them. Joe Burrow is the
Starting point is 01:03:15 best quarterback on a one and four team in the history of the NFL. It's crazy. It's nuts. Mike, who you taking here? Bengals or Giants? Giants plus three and a half at home. Yeah, they get, they, they're not going to one and five, are they? I gotta go Bengals. All Mike, who you taking here? Bengals the Giants, Giants plus three and a half at home. Yeah, they they they're not going to one and five, are they? I gotta go bangles. Alright, you're taking
Starting point is 01:03:31 the Bengals. Carl Douglas for what it's worth is also taking the Bengals. Kay Funk, who you take it? I'm with you on that but the problem is the three and a half. I think that hook might come into play here. Yeah. Give me uh give me the Giants.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I'll take the Giants. They're hot. Really? Just because of the hook. Give me give me the Giants. I'll take the Giants. They're hot really just because of the hook. I mean since it already needs the game. Jones is due for a I think the Bengals are going to win by a field goal. Okay. New York guy K Funk is this week. I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Really is. I was born in New York. How many beers have you drank already? This is Coke. Lord. I will I will say this after two weeks of experimenting this is uh this is uh this is coconut water in the world but we'll talk to that later, but this is a once upon a coconut, the best coconut water in the world, but we'll talk about that later. It would appear that that is the best coconut water in the world. I can just tell by looking at it that that is absolutely the best once upon a coconut, definitely number one. Kenya Mojo, I just got looking at it, huh?
Starting point is 01:04:39 Silas, Silas yelling at someone too many. Now we just have Gordy. I just want a usual Gord, did you have to shout that out from your Vegas hotel room last night? Too many? They're so loud that I can't even hear what's going on over with you guys right now. Hey, do me a favor Gord, ask Tyler if he likes the Jets or the Bills. Tyler, the Jets or the Bills.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Siler, the Jets or the Bills? What? Who's that quarterback? Aaron Rodgers. He healthy? Yes. The Bills! Alright. Gold. Gordy, now ask him who he likes. Bengals or Giants? Bengals the the the the the the the They don't care. True words have never been spoken on the show, Gordy.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Did they just yell? So great. All right, so we have. You know the best part of that is that it's only them. There's no one else in that lobby. Three of them and a dealer. I love how you asked them bangles and they yell Pac-Man Jones. So I want to keep an eye on them tonight.
Starting point is 01:06:15 All right, commanders at Ravens. Here we go. Ravens minus six of the half. Carl Douglas is taking the Baltimore Ravens. Man. Good games this week. Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels, K and a half. Carl Douglas is taking the Baltimore Ravens. Man, good games this week. Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels, K Fuck going to start with you. Ravens minus six and a half at home. I've given the commanders no respect this year at all. I even said I would never pick
Starting point is 01:06:38 them on the show. So, I can't pick them right now. So, I'm going to take Baltimore. Alright, you're taking Baltimore. Mike, who you taking in this game? Man, this is the the two. The battle of the back to Las Vegas. Gordy Ravens minus six and a half. They're taking on the commander. I'm just gonna make this easy. I'm going with the Ravens. I don't know. Okay. Washington. Hey, who you guys wanna go with? I'm going with commanders. I'm Mojo. I'm going with Washington. I'm a Washington guy. Who's who's taking the Ravens? Ravens.
Starting point is 01:07:53 All right. Gordy, keep it out there. I'll get all three picks right now. Cardinals and Packers. Packers minus five and a half. Let's start with you, Gordy. Who you taking? I love Scottsdale. I'm going to Mojo guy. The pastor. It's only a the keep it simple. I'm going with Arizona. Okay. You're thinking Arizona. You love Scottsdale as well. Mike going to you here. Your brother is the defensive coordinator for this team. This
Starting point is 01:08:30 is so great. I can watch this all day. I mean, Silas up like 50 grand and it's just empty in there. It's so empty. Yes. I mean, Billy, it's Billy. It's like nine in the morning. Gordy's hammered. Cardinals at Packers. So Mike, your brother is the defensive coordinator for the Cardinals. They had a big win last week against San Francisco. And now they followed up with a game in Green Bay.
Starting point is 01:08:54 So who are you taking here? Yeah, man. So when I make a bunch of noise in the kitchen, when I'm making my coffee and I have the TV on, the volume automatically turns up. And we the Cardinals intercepted that pass to end the game, my TV blew up to like the loudest volume it's ever been to and it was like it was the most explicit rant I've ever gone on. There were so many motherf***** it didn't even make sense what I said. I was so hyped last week.
Starting point is 01:09:25 That was such a big win. And all that to say, obviously I'm on the cards this week. Yeah, you have to. You can't pick and get your brother. I can't. It's illegal. Right, and they're getting hot right now. Mojo, who are you taking here?
Starting point is 01:09:36 I'm taking all of Rollis' hype and throwing it on the other side of the fence. The battle of my two former teams. One of my favorite matchups all year. If we can get it, go Pat. Go all right. Did we get K fun K funk? Have you selected this game yet?
Starting point is 01:09:56 I have not and this is I call this the battle of the mush because Mojo play for both teams. But anyway, if it was a whole, I was taking a whole team. It didn't hold on pause rewind. I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that
Starting point is 01:10:07 I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that
Starting point is 01:10:12 I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that
Starting point is 01:10:17 I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that
Starting point is 01:10:22 I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm saying that I'm not saying that I'm saying that I'm not saying that I'm saying that I'm not saying that I'm saying that I'm not saying that I'm saying that I'm not saying that I'm saying that I'm gonna try it again and the fact that Sylar is killing me, man. All right, lying to Cowboys. I'm gonna go to you, K-Fuck first here. Cowboys, wow, great game this weekend. What about what?
Starting point is 01:10:53 The Cowboys, man. Where, hold on, he didn't give the spread yet. Where's Sylar going, Gordy? Where's he going? He's tipping everyone out. He wants so much money. How much? I know exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Tipping every table out, cause he's up so much. Every table? Wait, he's giving dealers a tip that haven't dealt a hand to him yet? Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. you see this? Hey, tell him to ask one of the dealers, Gordy, if they like the lion to the cowboy. What a nice guy. Everyone's clapping for him. Everyone's clapping for him. That was amazing. How much money did he win? Wow. He just tipped every single dealer in the casino. How much money do you think he won, Gordy? All two of them at the end of the year. He's got to be on the 115 stacks. Wow. Ask him to ask the dealer who they like in the Lions Cowboys game, Cowboys plus three.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Who do you like in that Lions Cowboys game, the football game? Cowboys! I played it to Jerry Jones. I played it to Jerry Jones Stadium. They put that little shield up because I was drinking on the way to the field. Let's go with the Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:12:04 They're going to be drunk out there. All right, ask the dealer who she likes, Sylar. Cowboys. Cowboys. All right, and Gordy, tell her she's back next week, okay, the dealer. 17 weeks, 17 weeks, great. Cowboys, Cowboys. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Cowboys, she had a very sick of the Cowboys, all right. Hey, hey, hey. This is so good. Gordy, who you taking here? I'm rolling with the Cowboys with Chris Gronk, baby. He started the Gronk spike with Tony Romo. That's the creator right there. First touchdown ever. Chris Gronk, Del's Cowboys. Let's go. He's also the Scronius, the most embarrassing Gronk too. We, we, we have this thing. Wee MENACED! Wait, how many? How many? Ask him how many? I didn't hear what he said.
Starting point is 01:12:55 He said too many, but Mojo go ahead ask questions of Gordy. I like this. Go ahead. Hey Gord, since here's something we don't do on this show anymore since we came back this season. We haven't had story time in a long time. That used to be the best part of this segment. That was the defining part of this segment. Now, I don't know what stories we can tell about the old days.
Starting point is 01:13:17 We'll have to approve those later, but you're there now and you have new stories for us. So you got any stories for the show? I mean, I think we're creating stories as we're speaking today. I think you can kind of see what's already happening at 9 a.m. Is he sober?
Starting point is 01:13:38 This is incredible. I think that's almost being annoying at this point because I'm trying to... We're staying intense. You gotta stay intense. Gotta keep working. They better take off. Wait, they're back in? Oh yeah, they're playing. They're not gonna stop. They're never gonna stop. Don't stop teaching you out of your f***ing mind. Sylar! Alright, Gordy, listen, I love you. Get some sleep.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Figure out what day it is. Tell Sylar thank you for the entertainment. I would shout out to the I-Corps casino right here in Las Vegas. Thank you for taking some of your money. You know why? Too many. Too many, yes.
Starting point is 01:14:20 All right, we will be careful. Be safe. We'll talk to you next week. Tell the dealer she's back next week, OK, and I'm serious and I'm serious, okay Get her number Gordon God I'm concerned for them. Okay, fuck who you take it here? Why I really interrupted gay folks seven minutes ago to go out Vegas now boys are plus three at home I really on interrupt people all the time on this show. It's all good. I like Cowboys,
Starting point is 01:14:50 but I mean, everyone else takes them. So is it taking them? So I'm probably gonna get screwed on this, but give me the Cowboys. I think they're due for a better performance. Okay. Mike, are you taking here? What's the points? So it's Cowboys plus three at home taking on the Lions. the the week would be would be good because he's been so awful here on god bless football but him endorsing the Cowboys is enough for me to take the Lions and just leave it at that.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Alright. Uh K fuck anything you want to promote or say on the way out here. I do. I want to give a shout out to my good friend John Chirondo. Um owner of Coconut Water. Once upon a coconut, best coconut water. Once upon a coconut, best coconut water around Mojo
Starting point is 01:15:48 can attest to that along with a lot of other athletes that endorse it. You can go to any sprouts in the country and get them any HEB in Texas or online Alright. Alright. Well done Mojo. Well done. I just call them. I'll jump in right there.
Starting point is 01:16:03 I also I was going to give Mike a chance to go before we have to close it out with you Mojo. We have no that's okay we're going in right now because I also would like to shout out John Chirando who likes me way better than he likes K-Funk and once upon a coconut with the even bigger bottle than K-Funk is holding. This is the milk jug right here and this is 100% all natural, no preservatives, no added sugars, no crap. 100% coconut water, guaranteed the best on the market. But they also make a watermelon, a blueberry, a pineapple. You saw the chocolate. and for those others, there's two ingredients, coconut water and actual fruit juice. So the best product on the market. Check it
Starting point is 01:16:51 out. Mine is bigger than K-Funks. Of course it is. Mojo, real quick, who introduced you to John? I was just curious. I've known John for years. We go back. We actually united off of how much we enjoy making fun of you. I've known John for years. We go back. Right. Yeah. Yeah. We actually united off of how much we enjoy making fun of you. Yes. Well, listen, Mojo was just pretending when you introduced Mojo was pretending to just meet him. He, you know, like just to
Starting point is 01:17:14 make you feel good. Yeah. I mean, if this product's gotta be that good, if it's gotten K funk off of alcohol,, let's look at it from that perspective. That's a good thing. Yes, it is but not Gordy. Uh let's go. Uh Mike, Mike, anything to promote on the way out here? Um yeah, I just wanted to, you probably
Starting point is 01:17:36 haven't heard of this but I got a whole box of once. It's an entire box. Yours is bigger than Mojo's. It's a mighty pack. I got multiple flavors. I got it all here. And this, look at me, look at this box.
Starting point is 01:17:54 This is just one of several boxes too. This stuff is the real deal. Mojo, if you're going to show all your cases, I'll go over to the, to the forfeit back here. Yeah, let's all just dump them out on the table, boys. Let's see who wins because I'm pretty sure the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the
Starting point is 01:18:09 the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the
Starting point is 01:18:17 the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the regular, pineapple, watermelon, here's your chocolate,
Starting point is 01:18:25 the blueberry, even the sparkling one. We got them all, baby. Who's his biggest now? Yeah, you're the biggest. No question about it. You are the biggest. I will never question your size again. I'm too lazy to walk half a mile down to John's like 72 garages and show the
Starting point is 01:18:46 palette that we have down there. All right. All right. All right. Well, yes. Thank you for being lazy because we don't have time for that. Okay, guys. We love you. Okay, fuck. I'm glad you're safe. Mike, thank you for coming back and continuing to come back. And I don't know where Sylar is, but he made the show today. So thank you to him wherever he is, which is at a blackjack table in Vegas. Thank you gentlemen. We will talk to you next week. By the way, Carl Douglas in that last game,
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