The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF- Will Anderson, Juju Gotti, Ekeler, Boselli

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

Juju Gotti joins Stugotz, Mikey and Billy to recap TNF's multiple injuries and the Stugotz of sideline reporters. Will Anderson believe his QB should be Rookie of the Year and MVP. Chris Simms isn't o...ut on Josh Allen and has interesting interception stats in regards to the top QBs in the NFL. Stu Ya Gotz. In an unexpected twist Austin Ekeler has a pitch for the guys. Tony Boselli and Mike Golic share their thoughts on Mikey A. not using his sideline pass. Gordie is 4 days sober and has his Uber driver make some picks with him. Juju has the lock of the week and may have a new role on the show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. God bless football Billy Gill. God bless football Mike. Yay. God bless football, Juju. God bless football America. Yeah, Juju. Juju, what do you do it, man? Where are you? What's happening? I am in the MIA, yo baby, watching a lot of football. So I had to come to the number one football show in the world. You got to know. Last night, Mike and I were talking right before we started recording here and we were saying that was a bad game and it was a bad game. We went in with heavy expectations, Billy, for that game. The Ravens went 30, 40, 20 and it was a bad game. But there were massive storylines coming out of that game with Mark Andrews the Ravens tight end being out for the year the Marjacks and a little banged up But we'll see what happens here with Joe burrow crazy amount of injuries in that game Billy
Starting point is 00:01:13 Well, I mean that's why it was a bad game because we had a second half without Joe burrow Like it was closed in the first half and then Joe burrows out and then you know that's that which is a weird story because and then go burrows out and then, you know, that's that, which is a weird story because, apparently he was injured during the week and they didn't tell anyone and then cameras caught him walking off the plane and walking off the bus with a brace on his wrist and then when he walked into the stadium, he didn't have the brace on his wrist. So then people were like, okay, maybe it's nothing. And then he's just throwing and you could see he can't grip the ball. He just has weakness there in his wrist, something's going on. And then all of a sudden, the pictures and the stories keep resurfacing of the fact that he was actually maybe injured, even though he wasn't on the
Starting point is 00:01:52 injury report. It's kind of a crazy thing that's going on with him right now. It's the rare touchdown pass that off the mix in, juju. All right. And then when buddy came in the game, all of my best was just dust. When the sun is gone, the March A. Spreed amount of hair. Tyler boy, don't think about him. Oh my God. Who shmans out of me as well, called a ball that night. Right. Well, that's what Mikey was complaining about. Now, Mikey was complaining about not the game, not the fact that listen, that opened up things for a lot of teams. This whole week has to show Watson going down and now Joe Burrow going down
Starting point is 00:02:32 and more Andrews being out and maybe the Steelers and the Jets and the Bills, they have better chances now. I'm not saying they're going to get in. Get out of here. Taxes, they have better chances now because of these injuries. but Mikey was complaining about that the Andrews injury rectus bets and somehow burrow rectus fantasy team. So I owned a lot of stock in Mark Andrews last night and of course everything looked great on that opening drive. I'm like, oh, I'm going to go to bed by half time with all this happening. And it was second catch he went down. And then of course, I traded for Joe burrow this week thinking here
Starting point is 00:03:06 This week This week this week I got to see him for one half on my team So you say you guys aren't you guys aren't rushing to get Jake Browning on the waiver wire today Jake Browning Nagle you should get 12 points when your quarterback throws a touchdown pass and breaks his hand. I mean, seriously. I agree. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I need a Russian get Terminator Logan Wilson from the Bengals because he's taking out everybody. He took out my Andrews. He tried to take out the March Ascent. Took out OBJ at the end of the game. Brother, calm down. Billy, things have opened up here for the dolphins. Obserius, the Chiefs of the Luz this weekend to the Eagles brother calm down. Billy, things have opened up here for the dolphins. Obsurious. The chiefs lose this weekend to the Eagles on Monday night.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Things and the dolphins have five easy games ahead of them. Things have opened up here for the dolphins. Can we talk about something really quick? This is a private conversation to God and I had off-era a couple weeks ago and it snuck up on me and I didn't realize the date until I saw it was Monday night. Stu God, do you know what I'm going to talk to you about? Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. A couple weeks ago, Stu got said, buddy, we're going to get in the Kelsey booth because I know
Starting point is 00:04:12 his trainer and we're going to get in for the game against his brother. Taylor's going to invite still invites still open to us. Billy. It is not open to you. If it was open to you, you would be there in a second. I'm Monday night football. Only if you go. That's it. I go. You got. I mean, okay, but neither one of us is going because it's not a real invite. You're not invited into the booth for the for the chiefs and Eagles game,
Starting point is 00:04:35 where Travis Kelsey's parents are meeting Taylor Swift's parents with Taylor's from there. There's not a chance in hell you're getting in that booth. Listen, Juju, I didn't say I was invited. I said, I have a guy who just simply opened the door crack and let us in. And that's all it takes in a suite, right? Yep, that's it. I mean, there's a sliver. It's not a man.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Just need the door to be open. Otherwise, it's a lot. That's it. Just open it to the track. Billy, you want to go? If you're there, I'll be there. How about that? Juju, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I know somebody who can get you sideline masses. Yeah, I know someone who won't be there. How about that? Juju, yeah. I'm in. I know somebody who can get you sideline passes. Yeah, I know someone who won't use them. That's going to be a theme today. Yes. By the way, because we're not going to address it later in today, so we might as well, because this is a big story. Chris Atopson, the Stu Gotts of sideline reporters. Oh, yes. Just reporting bullshit.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I love her. I'm taking it off on the fly. reporters. Oh yes, just reporting bullshit. I love her. Making a noise on the fly. Saying that on part and my take, that's, that's an interesting choice. Yes. Right. She, I'm not certain she can get away with it. I can. But that's going to be interesting to see the reaction to that. Lisa Salters put out a whole ceililig way about it. Everybody is man. All the silent reporters turned on her. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Interesting. Listen, she has my support. And that's all that matters. Very good. Juju, what'd you make of Harbaugh? I guess he's, yeah, I'm guilty because suddenly he doesn't want to fight this. Suddenly he doesn't want to take every coach out. Yeah. Okay. I'll sit for a couple of more games and I'll be there for the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:06:04 What'd you make of that? Right. That just told me that it's a lot more than hard drive that he does not want to discover. He's like, oh, yeah, I found Connistagious. Okay, that's cool. I'm so sorry, because I think it's a lot layered. A lot more layered to that. The crazy thing about that, juju is like, I always kind of thought like, okay, this three game suspension is just the start. Then the investigation is going to find things and then he's really going to get in trouble. And it's kind of like, no, we're good with three. Okay, case closed.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Okay, perfect. All right, so we'll be back to the playoffs. Like it's crazy how the story just ended. It's going to be interesting. I do wonder if that will have an impact on the Michigan Ohio State game. I did. Just Jim not being there. And that coach, not really having that kind of experience
Starting point is 00:06:49 coaching it. I know, listen, I know he coach Penn State. Ohio State is not Penn State. This is a much bigger game, much tougher opponent. And so I do wonder if that is going to impact this game at all. Billy, real quickly here before we break, do we have a draft King's fantasy game this week for our listeners?
Starting point is 00:07:05 We do go to dkng.co slash Levittard compete against all of us in weekly fantasy. Well, tell us what you're doing with Old Spice, man. Yeah, I'm happy to be back partner with Old Spice and Walmart, you know, in the school of swag, you know, for the big brothers and big sisters program, a mentor program, you know, they got 30,000, you know, kids on their list right now to get ready to graduate from high school.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And I think it's a really special thing they have going on. I'm happy to be a part of it. You know, mentorship means a lot, and I'm happy that, you know, they get the opportunity to do this. I think that's what makes O-Spyce, Walmart very special, you know, doing this. So, it's really fun, you know, you can go to ospice.com, school of swagger, so you know, going to the mentorship and help out and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:07:53 So it's been fun. Did you have a mentor growing up? Why is mentorship important to you? Yeah, I had a mentor growing up. I would say like both my high school culture is co-straining, co-droiders with big mentors in my life. You know, it's easy to kind of go down the wrong path sometimes like when you're a young kid hang with the wrong crowd hanging around people that may not have your best interest
Starting point is 00:08:12 And you know they help me see that and they brought me away from it and you know help me a lot And I think you know that's one biggest thing so if being in the community They have to give back and be able to be a voice and be able to help people in need well I want to play for your coach. I mean from from the outside looking in, he seems like he seems like a guy I want to play for. He seems like a guy I want to run through the wall for. Do you guys have the same sense? Most definitely like, I don't think he's known as a coach and in a film that I rather play for the coach.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Ryan's. It looks like he gets still play actually. Doesn't that? I say every time I see my stuff out of token, I was like, it look like you got a ball, I'm going to play left for you. You got to come back out and out. But the enthusiasm that he brings and the energy that he brings is like, it's like, I want to get out there so bad.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I think that's what drives us so much. Like we have a head coach like that. Man, it just gives you so much more energy. You just go out there and want to play hard and be aggressive and be physical. A lot of people are saying like watch out for the Texans. Well, they're saying watch you out over the next three, four, five years. And it seems like you guys and your head coach are like, nah, f*** that. We're ready right now. We want to go win this thing right now. Is that true? Yeah, most definitely. I mean, we have the players, we have the coaches, we have the staff. I think it's just the organization that's all like the Texas have a really great like people in the players, we have the coaches, we have the staff. I think it's just the organization at all. Like the Texas government really great, like people in the building.
Starting point is 00:09:28 We have great people in the building, you know, on all levels, no matter what it is, you know, the organization has no choice but to be great. And I think Coach Ryan does a really good job of making sure that everybody stays focused and everybody sees the bigger picture of everything and that right now it's the time to go out there and do what we need to do. What's been the biggest transition for you? Well, uh, from, you know, from college coming to the pros here in your first year. What's been the biggest transition? Um, um, probably just how fast the quarterbacks get the ball out. That's the biggest thing. Like they get the ball out fast. So like,
Starting point is 00:10:01 everything has to happen right now. It's been the biggest thing, but other than that, like the speed of the game, the intensity of the game, I've been in a bit. How much in the coach's rise does a really good job of having a high intensity in practice too. So we get to the game, we can be prepared. So it's been great. What makes CJ so special? CJ's is living up in CJ's expectation. CJ's standard, me like every day he walks with guy and on. He like, he's real big on his faith and everything like that. I think that's all we all look up to.
Starting point is 00:10:28 A man like he's a special dude man and he loves the game of football. He loves his teammates. He loves the organization and we have a guy like that man. It's just special things come from that. Mikey you shook your head because you should be the MVP. I'm sorry. I know he's like he's a rookie but CJ Straug would be the MVP Mike. I don't disagree with him. He absolutely should be the MVP. I'm sorry. I know he's like he's a rookie, but CJ Stroud should be the MVP, Mike. I don't disagree with him. He absolutely should be. And it seems like well agrees with us. I agree with you guys. I love that. I love that. Well, I'm wondering here. How quickly did you guys know with CJ, but the guy like CJ, like when you're out there
Starting point is 00:11:01 on the practice field during during training camp, do the guys know like instantaneously? Okay. This guy's going to be great. How quickly did you know? I mean, I knew all along. I know from college and I spent some time with Miss off season, but then I've like, I've gotten to see him play, but like I've never seen him practice before. And I think when you get to see him practice, you know, then like, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:26 he's special. Like he takes his cry very seriously. The things that he does in practice are exact same things he do in the game. And then off the field, like, he's always studying. Like he always is in the playbook, always watch and film everything like that. So, man, when we see him throw the ball in practice, we was like, oh, we don't got no worries. Everybody's doing a job. I love that. I love that. We'll Anderson is joining us here with the Texans on behalf of Old Spice and big brothers, big sisters.
Starting point is 00:11:52 We'll get to that again at the end. Have you been to Sabin's lake house when you were at Alabama? Did you go to the house? Yes, I went to the house. Yeah. Yeah. What? Tell us about the house.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Well, I have a quite a specific question for you that we've asked Jalen hurts and others who went to Alabama, but first tell me about that lake house. That house is huge, man. Like it's crazy. And then the lake like, yeah, I guess I'm full for the fish and I can't thought of the thing. He thought like the fish food like all the catfish will come slow up to the dock. And then like we're getting on the jet skis and everything like that. And like he, and he tried to vote like it's a Ferrari and it's so much fun. Like Mr. Terry and Mr. Terry, she's a sweetheart like always very welcoming like whatever need like she always provides everything like that. So like, I mean, it's just great hospitality, but it's fun. It's always a fun time. All right, explain the boat because we had
Starting point is 00:12:46 Jalen Hertz on this show and he said that he went to the lake house and Sabin took him out on the boat, but he put him out on one of those rafts and he tried to throw him off. Did he do the same to you? Yes. Okay, what the fuck? The first time he threw me off.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Right. And then the second time he did it, threw me off. But I'd say like, even driving that thing, you're like, it's a Ferrari, I don't know. And like, he asked you, Charles, like, he's here to fly off of there. Wait, what'd you do the second time that you didn't do the first time?
Starting point is 00:13:14 What happened? You learn your lesson? I closed my eyes and I just held on tight. He's crazy, save it. Yeah, yeah. He was saying, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he is. Yeah. By the way, how has he done this? Because this is probably the most remarkable thing Nick Sabin has done on a Hall of Fame
Starting point is 00:13:32 resume. Okay. He has somehow convinced everyone that Alabama is this lovable little underdog on it's going on here. I mean, that's what everybody does. I mean, I'm going to say everybody to say, all the dynasty's over, just like, it's seen like everybody trying to Alabama out. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Like, oh, Alabama don't got it anymore. Like, they lost their touch, and that's not the case. You know what I'm saying? Like, we still got it. Right. But Sabin thrives on that shit, right? When you doubt him, when you start doubting him, it's nice like, oh, so, now you feel like,
Starting point is 00:14:04 when I came, okay, well, I was just gonna show you that we still all came. Right. How much money I was like, oh, so now you feel like when I came, okay, well, I was just gonna show you that we still are capable. Right. How much money I've asked guys this, how much money would I have to pay you to let Derek Henry get a 50 yard head start and then you just have to tackle him head on. Like how much money would I have to pay you? Yeah. They're in enough.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yeah. They're playing the role with that. One of who was 15 yards, okay? 15 yards, that's not you don't want. What if it was 15 yards? 15 yards. That's not too bad. But no, no, no, no, no one, no one, no one wants the tackle. Derek Henry, unless they're going to pay to do so. And even then some people still don't want to, uh, still don't want to tackle them.
Starting point is 00:14:38 You would not be shocked, right? I know you're saying it. He's your teammate. I get it. I understand it. But you're not going to be shocked here if he wins both rookie of the year. NFV pay, right? I know you're saying it. He's your teammate. I get it. I understand it. But you're not going to be shocked here if he wins both rookie of the year and MVP, right? I wouldn't be shocked at all, especially with what he's done on the field right now. I wouldn't be shocked at all. All right. Well, we, uh, we enjoyed this a lot. Um, before
Starting point is 00:14:57 we get you out of here and talk about old spice one more time, give me the guy that you look at and you're like, Holy shit. How is he doing that? Is it miles guy at your position? Is it miles Garrett? Who is that guy? It probably got to be miles man. We play a lot We play 11 because we play a lot of the same season They play so like we always like you know the film and my show and Like we like oh, we don't do that move and then show them where you can see though He's like that's not here like that's just mouth like
Starting point is 00:15:27 You can't do that right that's just That's about yeah, he's like a freak athlete, but man like special dude great guy And that's like a guy that like we like knows how to put a game football right where when you use the old spice Do you go spray do you go roll on what are you doing there? I'm going roll on man Yeah, I think it's yeah, it stays yeah Yeah, I'm going to roll on, man. No, I think it stays, yeah. I'll let you go spray. But how many back and forth do you go? I go like four. It's too much, you know? I probably go about two. I like that with the sound effects.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Who's got the most swagger on your team? Bobby LT. I love it, Toss of it. I love everything. That's awesome. I love it. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I loveagger on your team? Bob the LT. So I forgot about him. All right, man, one more time. Promote what you're doing with old spice on the way out here. Will we appreciate the time, man?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah, like you just partnered up with old spice and Walmart, you know, and, you know, the big brothers and big sisters program. They got 30,000, you know, high school kids get ready to graduate. And we just want to be apart the mentorship with helping them do so. And I think it's a really great thing to get back to the community and get back to these kids. They deserve it. I'm really happy to be back partner with them in the School of Swagger. I mean, again, you can go to allspice.com, School of Swagger, sign up and join the mentorship mentorship and healthy kids out. You're a good man for doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:46 We appreciate it. Go get it right now. Two years from now. Get it now, okay? Yes, sir. Thank you. All right, man. I have some sad news for you.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Are we rolling already guys? Yeah. Wait a second. We better be. I already know the news. Uh, the sad news that sad news that that Billy Gill. So you know how how are you aware of this news? Do Billy text you?
Starting point is 00:17:09 No, I'm aware of this news because they have this thing on zoom where like everybody shows up and that asshole Billy ain't here right now. So I knew you were about to go there. Yeah, he's doing a photo shoot. You want to rip him? I mean, a photo shoot for what? Like blind magazine.com. What the hell? Who would want to do a photo shoot, you want to rip them? I mean, the photo shoot for what? Like blind magazine.com. What the hell? Who would want to do a photo shoot with him? Oh, man. If you can't see,
Starting point is 00:17:33 here's a great picture of Billy, but you don't have to see him. Welcome. But you love him, though. That's, that's what I love about your relationship is you guys attack each other, but you love Billy Gill. I know you Chris. You love Billy. I do love Billy Gill. But I really do like if Billy was Billy would be my right hand man if he was working for MDC sports or if I was working for you guys full time.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I know he's that quirky weird guy that does a great job at his job, knows a lot of stuff, has a good feel for this business altogether. And then we'll say dumb, stupid things that'll keep me entertained all day long. So he's perfect. He knows a little bit about a lot. That's what he does. I hear you. You would be tired of him in three days, Sims.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I probably should have. He was deep in a mile wide. He would wear you out in three days, my man. BFD with my Floria, every day on Bcock, the unbuttoned podcast as well, football night in America, Sunday night football pregame show, halftime , Sins is all over it. Lot to get to this week, man, holy s**t. What's going on in the NFL? And people are getting fired, quarterbacks are getting hurt, Sims. Let's start with Dishon Watson. Bad blow for the Cleveland Browns. He's a hard guy to feel bad for for a number of different reasons
Starting point is 00:18:55 off the field. The Browns fan base is a fan base that me and Mikey can relate to because they've been just as bad as we have over the last 40 years. How big of a loss is this for the Browns, Chris? I mean, it's monumental. It is because I think, you know, what you saw last week, you know, one, the Browns are stacked, right? They're loaded. You break down their football team and you go, it's one of the best D lines in the game.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Linebackers are like good. Jeremiah Obu sukoramo to me is an all pro candidate. Like he's that good. The other guys are good around him. The secondary phenomenal. I would argue that when you put there are three best corners on the field, Newslum Emerson and Denzel Ward,
Starting point is 00:19:44 it would rival three corners on any team in football, right? Offence aligned, we know it was damn good. They got a really awesome tight end and then Joku. They got good receivers and good running backs. The only thing you felt like they were missing was can Deshaun Watson get out there, play enough to where he can get going and turn the corner and start becoming the superstar quarterback that we know he can become. And it's just every time we kind of feel like, oh, he's turning the corner, watch out,
Starting point is 00:20:13 here comes the Sean Watson, and injury has happened. There a team that I looked at and I did a podcast on their defense a little bit today earlier, just where you go, They're a Super Bowl caliber team, you know, they had to me like shades of the 2015 Broncos. Yeah, offense is just okay, but defense is amazing and makes a few plays every game with either making points themselves or setting up the offense with a short field. And now, yeah, it's hard to, I could still see them making the playoffs. I don't think that's out of the realm, but to go to the Super Bowl or do anything like that, I think that's not a possibility. Should they make a move for another quarterback or?
Starting point is 00:20:53 No, I would go with what they got there. DTR got an unfair first experience playing in the NFL. I mean, his first start was against the Baltimore Ravens. You guys know how highly I think of that defense. And that was a struggle, and that wasn't easy for your first start in the NFL. PJ Walker has got some talent, but like even back to Carolina last year, just not take care of the football. So I think there's a higher ceiling with DTR, and they probably looked at it like, wait, PJ Walker's not necessarily trustworthy either. So let's go with the guy that we think can groom into what we want. And he can make a few plays here and there.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And hopefully he can manage the game the right way. Interesting. Also interesting is what happened with Buffalo. They lose a game. Too many men on the field. They would have won that game. And perhaps Ken Dorsi still has his job today. In fact, he would have his job today, which is left out loud, funny, Chris.
Starting point is 00:21:47 But what do you make of that entire situation? I mean, I was surprised that it happened like right now, you know, I was. I didn't think that was going to be in the Buffalo DNA to make that drastic of a change here just after week 10. I think the, the pressure of the situation, the expectations, which I think are off by most of national media, I mean, you guys know me, I didn't pick Buffalo to win the playoffs. I want to go like, what did they do to improve their team?
Starting point is 00:22:16 They got a rookie guard and signed a free agent guard. That's not enough to improve your team to where I went, oh, that was the missing piece. Now they're, they're going gonna win the Super Bowl, right? They've had some injuries. And then, yeah, the offense is, you know, we know it's good. I know everybody looks at rankings and all of that, but it's not good.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I mean, the offense is not good. You guys have been hearing me talk about the Buffalo Bills. It's one guy that does everything for the whole team. And if you break down even this year, big moments, end of games, whatever, it's not the offense delivering, it's Josh Allen playing like his hairs on fire
Starting point is 00:22:54 and making magic happen. That's what this is. And then when you add that, I think, to what is the offense of identity, what are they trying to accomplish, things we've talked about, right? What are they trying to accomplish, things we've talked about? Right? What are they trying to do in this game to set up the rest of the game?
Starting point is 00:23:09 I don't ever see anything like that. It was just a roll of deck. Who I like that play. Ooh, let me flip the roll of that too. I like that one. Okay. That's not sustainable to be successful either. And then when you add on the Josh McDaniel, I mean Josh Allen, excuse me, is like, going the wrong direction
Starting point is 00:23:27 right now. I think you're just McDermott looked at it and said, I need to make a change now, we need to reassess how we're playing on that side of the ball. Here's what I don't like about it because Sean McDermott really caused them the game. I mean, listen, the bills had the lead. McDermott, you're the head coach. You cannot put too many men on the field for a game winning field goal or, you know, they're attempting a game winning field goal and they ultimately miss. And he's using Dorsey's escape code. And you're right.
Starting point is 00:23:51 What everyone's going to look at now, Chris is look how good Josh Allen was when Dave ball was there and look how, look how much worse he got on your Ken Dorsey. And that's unfair to Ken Dorsey. It is unfair. They could have definitely supported him with more talent, right? You know, and to your Dorsey. It is unfair. They could have definitely supported him with more talent, right? You know, and to your point too, the deep ends for Buffalo never comes through in big games for them either to save Josh Allen. Ever since that London Jacksonville game and this continued on Monday night, if you go back and watch the game or watch the highlights,
Starting point is 00:24:21 it's all about two things. Everybody just goes, let's not let him throw 50 yard bombs and let's not over pass rush him. Let's kind of just wait until he breaks out because nobody's gonna be open down field as long as we stop digs and don't let him have the big pass play. And then the next thing that hurts you is just him getting out of the pocket
Starting point is 00:24:42 and making magic happen. And if you could stop that, you stopped their offense. And that's what we've kind of seen for the last six weeks. It's pretty apparent. And again, I think it all just came to a head there. McDermott, I hear you, right? That was your big mistakes. I get that.
Starting point is 00:24:59 There's a lot of blame to go around in Buffalo. But I wouldn't look at it and go, oh, I think they should fire Sean McDermott or anything like that. I don't think we're at that point here. I mean, the Buffalo has been one of the best franchises in the game for the last four or five years. And that is because of Sean McDermott. And there's some other people you can blame to why they haven't got over the hump and got to a super bowl. I agree with you. I don't think I don't think Sean McDermott should be fired. I didn't think that Kenny Dorsey should be fired. The didn't think that Kenny Dorsey should be fired. The guy I think that should be fired as Gabe Davis.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Well, well, I mean, we hate him again. Do we hate him again? I mean, it was right in his fucking hands. Jesus Christ. Yeah, you know, again, I mean, I don't know. You've heard me say it a million times. He's to great number three.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Right. You know, I hear people on TV talk about him sometimes like he's a one-been. I'm going to go, you don't know what the f*** you're looking at. That's what I want to say. Like, you're crazy. He doesn't separate from anybody. It's few and far between. It's again, it's people living in the past and making of an assessment of one thing they saw on a Sunday night against the Kansas City Chiefs in a divisional playoff game where he wasn't covered for like four of the big catches. Nobody was in the screen and they went, man, he's a superstar.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And I went and went, no, Kansas City's defense messed up and the guy throwing them lasers, the superstar. He just catching it. Like, well, there's a lot of guys that can just catch it. So yeah, they don't have enough difference makers on that side of the ball, let alone the offense at it. And with Dave Ball, it was the opposite. In big games against good defense, when he was the offensive coordinator, they had lots
Starting point is 00:26:38 of tricks and they were surgical with Josh Allen. And then they make a big play. They didn't just feast on the poor. They feasted on the rich too there. And then I think when you talk about Josh Allen has lost that line of reckless and aggressive, that's probably the other thing that scares them and why they fired Ken Dorsey as well, right? I mean, he's definitely gone that too far. I feel like Dorsey, who was his quarterback coach, was a little bit like, hey, he's my buddy where Brian Debal was like, oh, no, that's my general.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Yes, sir. Oh, I can't throw that ball over there in the double coverage or the general day ball will cuss me out. Can Dorsey's my coach? I'll try to fit that in. He won't yell at me that much when I come off the side. It won't be that bad. We're buddies. You know, I feel like a little bit of that element crept into the
Starting point is 00:27:28 situation as well. You have the Vikings and Broncos on the night football this week. Russell Wilson's having a good season, man. Yes, it's only getting better. I mean, it really is the last, I mean, Monday night, it looked damn good. You could tell Sean, Sean Payton's rewired the robot of Russell Wilson and has him thinking, you know, like Sean Payton wants him thinking, like an extension of himself. Let alone, you know, two plays in the huddle, the command at the line of scrimmage, you know, the quick decisive decisions, you know, they're not holding the ball too long
Starting point is 00:28:03 and attacking the line of scrimmage. The magical touchdown pass to courtland Sutton, like, yes, it's all on the up and up. And they figured out defense too, a little bit here, simplified on that end. They're not making as many mistakes. They got some guys who could make some plays. I think it's a sneaky good game we got on Sunday night. You couple that with the dobs story at offense with Kevin O'Connell and Brian Flores and what he's done with that defense. There's a lot of little good matchups within the matchup and this one. The Dobbs story is great.
Starting point is 00:28:34 He has more touchdown passes in one and a half games with the Vikings and Zach Wilson has the entire year with the Jets. That made me laugh and made you laugh. It made Mike Sand. He's crying. It wouldn't make Billy laugh, but he's not here. He's getting a photo shoot done. But the top story is great.
Starting point is 00:28:49 You love their coach, Chris. Like I follow you enough on social media. I know you well enough. You love Kevin O'Connell, don't you? I think he's one of the best play callers, offensive game plan designers in the game. I do. It's not, you know, all these tricks and sexiness, maybe like shana hand or McDaniel down in Miami, but still every bit is effective. They never run a bad play into a look where
Starting point is 00:29:14 I go, why would you even waste your time running that play against that defense that'll never work? It's always the right thing. There's always a few creative thinkers, the tie plays together right? Like I talk about such a big part of being a great play caller. Hey, here's this. Hey, here's this. Oh, hey, here's this. It looks like this, but it's that. And now you're screwed over. There's a 30-yard completion. He's brilliant at all that stuff. And Dobbs has done a great job of digesting it. It's an unbelievable story. It really is. You guys have, it is a sneaky good game on Sunday night Monday night is the game of the weekend.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Though maybe the game of the year Eagles and Chiefs, what are your thoughts? It's an Eagles offense that's you're excited to see you smile on your face like you're looking forward to watching that thing, man. I know. I know. It's there's so many cool matchups here. Yes. You know, one, the personal nature of the Super Bowl last year is going to add to it. You know, Monday night football, it's the Eagles and the Chiefs. It's Andy Reed's two teams that he's coached. It's, you know, it's an Eagles offense that we know is damn good, but I would say isn't
Starting point is 00:30:22 as awesome as it was last year, and the Chief's defense is better than it was last year. They're creative, they take chances. Those chances could lead to AJ Brown saying, see you later, I'm going for an 80 yard touchdown. And then the Chiefs, they can protect the passer. And so I don't think the Eagles pass rush can take over the game here. It's just can the Chiefs offense, you know, a little bit like we talked about, can they deliver enough open receivers and surgeicality in it to pick apart this Eagles defense as the game goes on? That to me will be the big thing there. Where do the big plays from the Chiefs offense come around and can they go on sustained eight and 10 play drives against this really awesome Eagles defense? That's going to be the interesting thing. I'll be excited to see.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Chris real quick. Just to go back to Josh Allen for a second. Like I maintain, I maintain that just about every team with the exception of four or five, which trade their quarterback today for Josh Allen. And so I want to test this on you in a hypothetical world. If the dolphins called the bills today, okay, or the bills called the dolphins, it said, hey, we'll give you Josh Allen. You give us two of what would the dolphins say? They would say yes. Right. They would, right? I mean, you said it writes new gods. I mean, unless you have burrow or mahalms or... It's interesting, right?
Starting point is 00:31:50 How about Lamar? How about Baltimore? Yeah, maybe they wouldn't do it. But they might. Well, we're good with the formula we're going, but it's like a select few. Right. I mean, we're getting down to the very end there. He is one of the most talented quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:32:06 in the history of the sport. He's shown the ability to tow the line of reckless and aggressive. For a while, he was like the best red zone quarterback in football with no interceptions and absurd touchdowns. It's gone off the rails a little bit, but a little of that is on him. And then of course the fact
Starting point is 00:32:25 that there's no offense and no run game and there's no weapons, I think has led him to try to do too much at times. And then the other thing is he's been an unbelievable runner. I mean, it's like 170 something touchdowns when you combine as you know take away as rookie year and then the interceptions is like 48 right so it's the stats are insane and this is where I don't like the whole conversation people are cherry picking to make their point to talk negatively about Josh Allen right since 2018 to now first off 2018 rookie year. Well, when do we ever count anybody's rookie year as part of what they are now? Right. So that's a bull kind of thing. I would even count. Manning was awful his rookie year, but go ahead. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yes. I wouldn't even count that. I wouldn't even count a second year and where you went 20 to 20 and nine. Love it. As far as touchdown and they went to the playoffs. You take from 2020 to now, and I know this year's not good, but 2021 and 2022, it's phenomenal. It's out of this world. He played better than my homes in 2020 and in 2021. You know, my homes would probably tell you that. So that's where people are crazy here.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And then I know people put up the stats of his interceptions, right? And they go, and this is the other thing that they put up where it ranks in the league. Oh, it's 25th in the NFL with interceptions. It's not good. And I want to go, you know, you got to pump the brakes and show some context there. You know, like, like last year, you know, I know he threw, let's see, 14 interceptions, my homes through 12 right? Okay, Joe Burrow through 12, it wasn't like it was all the good quarterbacks had underceptions,
Starting point is 00:34:15 interceptions in that area. Okay. All right, 2021, let's go to that gear. I know this is getting law, but we're going to deal with it now that you brought it up. He threw 15 interceptions, which was towards the bottom of football. Okay, Joe Perot threw 14. He was God that year and went to Super Bowl. All right, Tom Brady that year through 12, two less than him.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Okay, that's people are at my homes through 13, one less than him. So people are crazy. So they're cherry picking. This is not 20 that 2008 anymore where it's all about efficiency and not turning the ball. The game has changed about making plays. And you know, even in those years, Brady was aggressive with decision.
Starting point is 00:35:04 So that's where I think it's not fair to Josh Allen. People are cherry picking little stats to make their point of talking negatively against them. I just quick yes or no, the Eagles, okay, they get a call from Buffalo and they say Buffalo says, hey, we'll send you Josh Allen. Yes. Jaylen Hertz is great and we know that and all that too. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:26 You know, people, but like Josh Allen in the homes would score in the Tush push too. I agree. Yes. Yes. And the homes can run every bit as good as Jaylen Hertz. They don't ask them to do it because they throw the ball that good that they're like whatever. But either way, Jaylen Hertz is awesome.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Thanks for getting me in trouble with the Philly fan base. But yeah, Josh Allen is, is like a special, as special guests. PFT with Mike Florio, every day on Peacock, the Unbutton podcast, football night in America, son, they had football pregame half-diposed, sins is all over it. We love you, buddy. Any words for Billy on the way out? Billy, I'm disappointed, you know, again, just lack of professionalism by Billy. It's just, I mean, we have a time carved out. There he is. Yeah. What, I mean, what is the GQ men of the year? What the hell? Sometimes he's doing a photo shoot. Sometimes he calls in. He's drunk and a parking lot in a Marlins game. You're right, Chris. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I mean, what kind of guy are we dealing with here? I just, I'm disappointed in him. It is time for this week's edition to see you guys presented by draft king sports book and official sports betting partner of the NFL. Download the draft king sports book app today. Use code stew for a special offer when you sign up. That's code stew only at draft king sports book college football week 12, 5 and 6 a week ago, 61 54 and 5 on the season. I'll pick it way too many games and I got a lot of games this weekend. Billy told me to be quick, get right to them.
Starting point is 00:36:46 So here we go. Memphis plus eight, taking on SMU. SMU wins the game. Memphis covers, I'm taking Memphis here. SMU, by a field goal. Memphis getting eight points, I'm taking the Tigers. Northwestern at home, taking on Purdue. Northwestern is plus three, buying up the three and a half.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Northwestern wins the game, they cover the spread. Northwestern is plus three, buy it up to three and a half, Northwestern wins the game, they cover the spread, Northwestern by a field goal. Oregon minus 23 and a half, they're at Arizona State, Oregon by 35 points on the road. Arizona, there is something going on at Tucson, there is something going on in the desert, and it continues this weekend. Arizona wins and they cover Arizona by a field goal. North Carolina plus seven at Clemson. I'm taking Carolina here. Buy it up to seven and a half. Carolina wins the game outright. They win by three points. USC. Take it on UCLA.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Buy it down to six and a half and it's minus seven right now. It might be Chip Kelly's final game as head coach at UCLA. USC wins and they cover USC by 13 points at home over the Bruins. the air force snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow
Starting point is 00:38:11 snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow
Starting point is 00:38:19 snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow snow 10 points at home. Texas Tech minus two and a half. Take it on UCF. Texas Tech wins and they cover Tech by six points over UCF. Kansas plus eight. Take it on Kansas State at home. Kansas State wins the game Kansas covers. I'm taking the J Hawks here. Kansas State by three points on the road against Kansas
Starting point is 00:38:42 Washington plus two and a half at Oregon State. I want you to buy it up to three points here. Washington, they win the game outright. They're plus three. They win the game outright, Washington by a touchdown at Oregon State. And finally, Texas minus seven at Iowa State. I'm taking the long hordes, Texas wins, and they cover the spread. state. I'm taking the long wins and they cover the by 14 points on the road
Starting point is 00:39:11 week 11 7 and 3 a week 35 on the season. How back? Chargers minus 3 I want you to buy it to win at Lambo. They win take of the chargers, 13 to the half, take it the chargeers win at Lambo. They win by a touch tap. I'm taking the chargeers dolphins at home minus 13 to the half. Take it on the Raiders by
Starting point is 00:39:29 it down to 13 dolphins. Win and they cover the commanders minus nine. Take it on the Giants. I like the commanders. I don't like the Giants. This is more a pick against the Giants that
Starting point is 00:39:39 it is for the commanders. The commanders minus nine right now at home. Take it on the Giants. I'm taking Washington to win and cover they win by 14 points. The Dallas Cowboys minus 10 and a half at Carolina. I want you to buy it down to minus 10,
Starting point is 00:39:53 the Cowboys win and they cover, they win by 14 points on the road. The Jaguars minus six and a half, taking on the Titans. I'm gonna take the Jags here, eventually they're gonna blow someone out at home. Hopefully it's the Titans this week. Buy it down to minus six. Jags win and they cover the Jags by 10 points at home.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Texan CJ Stroud MVP rookie of the year. Dmitriko riots coach of the year. Texans, they got it going on. Minus five taking on Arizona. Kyle and Murray look good. CJ Stroud, he looks better. I'm taking the Texas by eight points at home over Arizona. The box plus 12 at San Francisco. Baker Mayfield, Sneaky Good Seasate, Bucks, tough team, every game seems to be close. This one will be
Starting point is 00:40:38 two San Francisco is minus 12. I'm taking the box here. The Niners win the game. They win by four points at home. I'm taking the box plus 12. The bills minus seven against the jets. Buy it down to six and a half. I'm betting against my jets. The bills minus six and a half. They win. They cover the bills by 14 points at home. And finally big game of the weekend. Eagles at Kansas City Eagles plus three. I want you to buy it up to plus three to half. I have Casey winning the game by a point at home over the Eagles, but I'm taking the Eagles to cover. Those are the picks, everyone.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Good luck. All G's in advance for all the construction going on around my house. I'm sure Billy can hear it and he's driving him crazy. Happens. You hear it, Mike? No, dogs barking, just rilling all of it. Huh. Here's the other thing I got no way I'm conditioning. I mean, two days now,
Starting point is 00:41:35 got a fan blow right in my face. Oh, it's probably affecting you and your mental more than us. So don't worry about that. I actually don't even hear it. Yeah. No, not at all. I like how you are complaining to Austin who gets beat every day professionally. How hard your life is. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:41:53 You know, Billy, he's not working for you. And there's a dog barking. You're right, Billy. Um, I'm bad with distractions, right? Austin, I'm, I'm pretty bad, right? I'm weak. We all are to a point, you know, we all have our little distractions. We're trying to minimize them.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah, but Billy's point is you're getting hit. You guys got, you know, you have guys colliding around you all the time and I got a couple of hammers, a drill, no way see and a dog barking. And I'm complaining, you know, it's all subjective. We are humans. It's what we do naturally, right? We want our situations to be better. And so therefore we complain and voice what's on our mind. It's a good thing. It's healthy. It's healthy because hey, you're getting it off your chest. You know, it's how you really feel.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Right. Well, thank you. I feel better about myself. There you go. Yeah. I want you to sit me down on the couch. You should interview me every week. Can we do that?
Starting point is 00:42:44 Let's do it. Well, I just want to talk about you guys. I see you guys. A little project that I want to work on. I'm just curious. Maybe it's if we want to jump into football stuff, we can do that. But if we want to jump into this little project on air, offer it doesn't matter me.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I'd like to hear about the project. We could jump into football in a couple of minutes. I want to hear about it. It's just something I've been thinking about. It's like, man, it'd be really cool to have some type of place where the off-the-field stuff for athletes was really highlighted. Because I feel like there's a ton of stuff on the field. But stuff like with my foundation, with Raheem's podcast and every other
Starting point is 00:43:27 athlete that has whatever they have going on, a place where there's a highlight of that. Whether it's a website, whether it's a content, a little studio built around that. And it's a news type of channel to thing. So that was an idea I've been playing around with lately. All right. So boys, how do we feel about the idea? Billy is the idea man around here. Mikey. I'm not Billy. How do we feel about this idea? I like this idea, but I feel like if I'm the idea man and you're coming up with the ideas and I don't have a place here. Well, I still can get feedback. I'm a back of idea man.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I'm dealing with a drill right now. I mean, the back of idea, man, apparently. I'm dealing with a drill right now. I mean, the guy's drilling right in my ears. Sorry, guys. Well, I was going to say just to provide a little bit more context, like, we have a lot of stuff going on on the field, but there's cool things that are happening that people might be interested in that really doesn't get a lot of exposure, because it's not the excitement of the game, but it's still us as, you know, these influential people that people look up to because we have that coolness factor of the NFL that we're still doing
Starting point is 00:44:27 things to help better our communities around us. And it's like, man, it'd be really cool to have more, it doesn't need to be like all the time, but just a little bit more awareness built around those types of things where I know like a Rahim Mozart has a podcast. You know like the big ones like Travis Kelsey and his brother, they had their podcasts or even the foundations that are out there like I'm Renovating gyms across the California right now and hopefully the nation in the future But other efforts that are going on out there as well from from guys So sharing the positive stuff that you don't see on the field stuff you guys are doing off the field telling your stories
Starting point is 00:44:59 Basically, well not just the stories, but really the how our guys are trying to help the communities around them to some capacity. You know the thing that I find interesting about that Austin and I wonder how you feel because you're very much in it is I feel like a lot of times fans don't actually view players as people. You know what I mean? Like you are just fantasy players for them. You're just members of their favorite team. But and I don't want to sound cold. You're largely disposable because when you move on to another team,
Starting point is 00:45:28 there will be another running back. When you, you know, the season ends, there's a new draft and there's going to be another first round pick. So it has to be interesting being you where a lot of your interactions are just that they're just transactional. And it's just like, what can you do for me in this way to make me happier to help my imaginary team? And no one actually thinks about you, Austin, Ecclery as a human being. Right, and I think, you know, for better or for worse,
Starting point is 00:45:54 the NFL has done a really good job of that. And it's, it's what's turned over the league so much and what keeps it the new exciting, it's always exciting, right? Because there's always this new factor of, oh, who's going to be a my team this year? Who are the new exciting. It's always exciting, right? Because there's always this new factor of, oh, who's going to be a my team this year? Who are the new rookies? Who's the new trades and all these things? You know, it's that that's great because it has helped us expand and it keeps the season fresh every year, like every year we're looking forward to the draft. We're looking forward to the, you know, first game and there's all this expectation and anticipation and, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:23 like, oh, here we go my team this is the year and so I think they've done a good job with that but then yeah we lose sight of like hey these guys right are actually making an impact too in their communities and the people that do see are the people that are fans of like myself right and my following like they see it but it's like man maybe there's people out there that are also interested in being a part of the project that I'm doing they just don't know about it because there's not as much covers. There's no one reaching out to Austin Eccler right now saying, Hey, man, we love what you're doing with your foundation.
Starting point is 00:46:49 We want to put it out there and just do like segments on it and help being people to it. You guys help me out. You guys give me the platform. Hey, if there's anything you want to talk about, but what if it was just that, what if it was just, Hey, this is what's going on in the foundation world of the NFL. Here's what's going on in the podcast world. The NFL Raheem had this person on. Here's the highlight that we want to hear something you didn't know about this
Starting point is 00:47:08 person. And it was just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, because people are still interested in these people, but now trying to share communities, right? Share the Austin Eccler community that is interested in my stuff. Share the, you know, Rahim votes the world share the Patrick Mahomes share this. Combined and create this new type of content world of yeah the personal side of
Starting point is 00:47:30 Not miss a personal but really the I guess that the community building side of some of our guys because it's not everyone that does it But there's enough that we could definitely help out and build more exposure around it. We're behind any of your projects man You know that. Well, I don't need that. I need to make it. I think you got good feedback from Billy and Mikey. I'm just telling you, I'm behind anything that Austin Eccler does. That's it.
Starting point is 00:47:55 I appreciate it. I appreciate it, man. Does that bother you? The, the, the, because you're one of the athletes that kind of, you go out of your way to try to interact with fans. What Billy said earlier, what he asked you earlier about how fans kind of view athletes. Does that bother you at all? No, because I think that's what the landscape of the NFL has been set up to do, where it's like,
Starting point is 00:48:15 hey, it's the hot, it's the now, like, look at him now. Here's now, now, now. And it's what's kept this game so relevant is because you're always excited. And then you don't get like, I drawn out and I feel like it keeps the fans coming back, right? Because people get so bought into the logos, people with fans of the logos, their team might suck, but they still love the Broncos,
Starting point is 00:48:40 they still love the chargers, they still love the chiefs, right? It doesn't matter who's on the damn team. They love the logo, you know? And so it's it's been good for longevity, but then there's also like I said the missing piece because there are fans of the players And especially now because of the fantasy things like that There's even more of an opportunity for people to know who these people are as individuals So it doesn't mean they're gonna be interested in them because of this stuff they do off the field, but there's an opportunity now to really bridge that gap because people are looking into Austin,
Starting point is 00:49:10 that's a person, because they have a modest fantasy team, so they follow them on Instagram now. So it doesn't bother me, but I think it actually opens up a window when we're talking about the individual side. How do you feel about a guy? I'm not going to name names. I will in a minute. That was left to field pass. He was left to field pass and he gave Austin if you left to field pass for a friend or
Starting point is 00:49:33 Fan and you found out after the game. They did not use that field pass. How would you feel about that? I would be pretty disappointed Because I went out of my way to get you that and it's not like like those those are not unlimited like those there's we have slots and so actually I've gotten two field passes this year and it was for my fiance and my my cousin and they were boom they were there I went over there saw them on the sidelines said what's up to them and they got that experience and it was like I had to go talk to my my my people hey how many passes do we get? How many can I get?
Starting point is 00:50:05 They're like, hey, we have a limited number. So yeah, I'll be pretty disappointed because it's a special moment. All right, Mikey, explain yourself. Vegas got into Mikey. Yeah, he was left to feel. Oh, Oh, Oh,
Starting point is 00:50:17 Oh, yeah. Yeah, I, um, Mike Goliath went out of his way. Vegas happened to me Austin. Vegas, Vegas hit me hard. Okay. And I had I had trouble getting to the game in time to use the pregame field.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Yeah. Vegas. You gotta walk around. Maybe was traffic to blame. They're like, building the F1 race out there. There's the bridge yet to walk over. I don't, you know, I don't think it was traffic related Austin. I'm going to be honest. Oh, listen, it was a steep bridge. Let's, let's have an honest conversation here, Austin. If you'd like to be honest with us here, because I'm wondering, Mikey, you're not small.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Like, how much does it take for Mikey to get to a point that he cannot make it to a sideline before a game? Yeah, it takes a lot and it was a lot. And it was, you know what it really was, Billy? It was poor timing. Oh, yes, that's what I did not know Goliath came through until a certain time. And by then we were way too far down down a road that it wasn't going to turn
Starting point is 00:51:27 in in pregame favor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You live and you learn. You live and you learn. Austin. Well, Austin, I heard you learn your lesson, okay, because when we asked for field passes,
Starting point is 00:51:39 you know, only leave two. Okay. For me. There you go. By the way, when you're playing in that game, the NFL is cruel from this standpoint, Austin. And I know you know this. You guys are like plus 24 and you're four and five.
Starting point is 00:51:52 The Steelers are minus 26 and they're six and three. Like the NFL is cruel, man. Crazy. Crazy, man. That's what this is, this madness is about. And it just makes the NFL so exciting, because you have crazy stuff that happens every week. Like, let's go look at the Monday night game that happened, right?
Starting point is 00:52:11 Like, the bills win. Wait, they don't, because they lined up with too many people on the field. So they actually don't win. Now they actually lost. Like that. So there's so many strange things that can happen and amazing things that can happen and sad and amazing and so
Starting point is 00:52:28 Yeah, it's all the emotions into one, you know, so man, it's not a felt thing It's it's definitely a blessing to be a part of because it's it's brought some amazing experiences into my life For sure, and I know others as well. You guys have the game of the weekend last weekend You lost it, you know, we felt bad for you. I know it's tough. It's tough. But when you're in one of those games, you're playing the lines, it's going back and forth. You guys came back at the end.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Like, do you know, like, are you thinking to yourself, wow, I'm sitting in the mid like this is a good game, right? You're like, you know it, right? Well, to me, it's not going so good. Well, I mean, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, there were zams and flows, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like our offense was rolling for sure. But I'm like, come on, Defay. Like, I mean, it was it was it was there were Samsung flows, you know, yeah, yeah, like our
Starting point is 00:53:05 offense was rolling for sure. But I'm like, come on, DeFi, like, let's get a stop. You know, special teams. Let's make a play. Um, you know, offense, we got to make sure that, you know, we're being efficient. Cannot in this game like this, it's going to be a track meet. We can't afford to point. We got to make sure we score every single time we get the ball.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Um, and it was just it goes back to what coach Brandon Staley always said is like, each game has a life of its own. And the life of that game was Hey, this is gonna be a highest scoring game whoever has the ball less probably gonna end up winning the game And unfortunately they were able to convert you know on the fourth down and get the field goal But no, I'm not sitting there thinking like man. This is a crazy game This is like I'm just like we gotta go. We gotta score off it. We got a score points You know like a fan of the sideline.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Like, or at home where you're saying, like, come on, someone stop golf. I don't, well, yeah, I'm saying that, but not because I'm a fan because I'm like, we got a fucking win. We got beat these guys. I'm so locked in on my assignment, locked in on the situation.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I'm not like in the emotion of it. Like when I was back home with my ankle, now I'm filling the emotions. And so back on the field, the emotions are all to the side. And it's really like I said, laser focused on what the situation is. What's the assignment? What do we get done? You like the Bears game or the Jets game where it's pretty clear like we have this a little bit under control. You don't like the back and forth.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Well, yeah, as a competitor, you always want to go out there and dominate. Yeah. But it's on both sides of the ball, right? Like, it's not just our team that wants to do that. And no one else does. Like everyone wants to go out there and dominate. But it's on both sides of the ball, right? Like, that's not just our team that wants to do that. And no one else does. Like, everyone wants to go out there and dominate. And so that's what makes competition great is the competition of theirs.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Is the back and forth. And so you're going to get games like that. And so even though it's not ideal, it's still exciting. It's still fun as a player to go through that in hindsight, not in it, especially when you lose. It's not fun. But just I know looking back on my career, watching games like that are going to be, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:47 the memories that are like, man, those are some good times. Austin, did you know that the chargers over the last 10 years have played 101 score games like? Is that number one? Or I don't know. It's number one by a lot. Yeah. Seems, yeah, the seems. You've been a part of most of them, man. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Oof. Oof. Maybe it's me then. Maybe I got to play better. No, that's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's nothing to do with you. It's no, it's no way to let me. I haven't easy one once in a while, man. More touchdowns. That's what I need. You got to, uh, Lambo field this week. You're playing Green Bay. Uh, is does that excite you still like you you played in every stadium? I would assume. I have not played in Lambo. Yes. Oh, so is this so is this exciting to you playing
Starting point is 00:55:34 in the club? Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking forward to being out there. Um, you know, I've heard nothing but great things. And really, man, I just love these teams that have like this huge, like committed fan base to them. And it just brings such great energy even if they're booing me that's my favorite noise actually getting booed coming out of the tunnel but just seeing like the camaraderie of what this game does for people and brings people together man it's so special because for me while I'm on the field it's just energy and for us I mean we go sign account everywhere like we had to go sign account in our own stadium and so it like we're just used to it.
Starting point is 00:56:05 We we thought we could talk to each other the whole week through signals at this point. So it's it's something that I'm yeah, I definitely look forward to go and and get in that experience. And I'm interested to see what seems actually haven't played in because I mean, seven years we've played in a lot of them, but right. Has it can't be too many that I haven't like yet. What's the stadium you like the least? Is there like stadium? I like the least.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yes. Whether it's the turf, whether it's the fans, whether it's the weather, whether it's Philadelphia. I don't know. I don't know. This is a trap awesome. Be very careful here. No, I didn't say city.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I just said stadium. And it could be because of the turf or something. Yeah. I remember like playing the bill stadium a a couple times. I did not like they had they had they had these turf. It was old turf. I think they replaced it by now. But it was a few years back and it yeah it was the bare stadium too. Like it was like my second year they're grass. It was the end of the year too and you know how grass is especially the end of the year. It was it was not great at all. It's like painted because it's like pride brown and there's sand everywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:08 And just watching the film from the bare stadium, they have like these weird camera angles. And it's just, it's just like, come on, we gotta get better than this. Everyone's got these nice up camera angles. There's just like low from the side. I'm like, what the heck is even this when you're watching film, but I my digress next week, I want to talk about the nastiest thing said to you as you're walking out of the tunnel. Okay. So think about that for a week. Okay. Your top three. I want to sell a gold silver bronze next week. Not now. Okay. But you can think about it. And we'll figure out. It's like an assignment for Packer. It is. It's a homework
Starting point is 00:57:43 assignment. And listen, you gave me like, I can top that. We have to give him feedback. I need to give feedback next week on his new project. And so I'm giving him one. Okay. Your top three, top three worst things ever said to you as you're walking out of a tunnel. But you love the game enough. You respect the history of the game enough where you'll have, you'll take a moment to take you Lambo field and be like, holy, I'm playing football here. Yes, absolutely. Okay, absolutely. I think that moment pretty much every week because, man, really,
Starting point is 00:58:11 after, I think the really a special moment on the field is right after National Anthem and everyone's like together, right? There's no teams or sides like everyone's like participating, listen to National Anthem and right after that moment, then like it makes you emotional like tears in your eyes, man, it's like, it's a really special moment. And during that moment, it's kind of when I look around and like just take it all in. It's like, man, this is such an amazing life that I've been, you know, blessed to have this journey that I'm going down.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Um, and yeah, it's truly amazing. So that'll play every single week. You give me goosebumps, man. Uh, listen, the bad news is you lost the good news good news is everyone in the AFC has the same record. I mean, so you're still in the mix, okay? Yeah, look football and AFC is crazy. It's crazy right now. It's nuts. I've never seen this many teams in the mix this late in the season. It's like every team but two in the AFC and one of those are patriots. What the hell's happening?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Right. Right. Nuts. And what about the Patriots what the hell's happening right right nuts all right man We appreciate you and and we'll talk to you next week and you have your homework And I'll give you I'll give you a real field feedback on your on your idea guy I gave myself a homework to say I'm going through Austin's game logs and seeing what state of me hasn't played in the Let him know okay, so I'll have that next week hasn't played in the let him know. Okay, so I'll have that next week too. We all have our homework.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Good time. It's for next week. Okay. Sounds good. I can look at Lambo, man. Enjoy it. And I'll give you the feedback next week. Sounds good.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Precision boys. Tony, I have a quick question for you. I am wondering how you would react if you left a sideline pass for a friend, someone who works hard for you, left them a sideline pass and then found out during the game after the game, that person who begged for it, who asked for weeks for that sideline pass ended up not using said sideline pass. How would you react? It would be the last time they ever got anything for me.
Starting point is 00:59:56 There. I'll give you something worse. I'm not going to use names here, but I was doing, I think it was for Westwood one. It wasn't the Jax. It was a Westwood one game years ago. It was Jeff Packers and a friend of mine, very wealthy friend, said, hey, one of my best friends is a Packer fan or coming up to the game. Can you give us pre-game sideline passes, you know, and whatever. I said, sure.
Starting point is 01:00:22 So not only were they late, it didn't make it get the sure. So, not only they were they late, it didn't make it get the sideline passes, but somehow they got a, maybe I left them a press pass, come say hello or anything, long story short, they show up at the game, come up into the press box where, you know, we're working and they are hammered.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I mean, just blitzed. Wow. And they think that this is just one big party. And I'm going, well, time out. Get the hell and it's the last time. Still friends, still, we're still friends. Last time I've ever given them anything to any NFL game. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Well, I asked that Tony because I was here. Here's the go. No, I you don't seem bitter at all. You should be. You should be. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be. Mike Goliq left a sideline pass for Mikey A and for the Raiders of the Vegas Jets game and Mikey A did not use that sideline pass. I'll go like, did that make you mad? Like, could you don't get mad often? Right? No, there are situations, Tony's situation would have got me mad. Right. I know Mike Yees. Obviously a good dude and he works in this business. Right. And it was easy to get him a pass.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Right. If it was, if it was a lot of hoops, hoops to jump through and he no showed, I just said, he was there with his two brothers and cousin. If I got four, that would have been a lot more work. And they didn't show that would have been it. I never would have done it again, but I didn't care because it was easy for how we to get. It's just one person. He gets one for my son a lot as well. And so that part of it, I don't mind.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Now Mikey, I said he was sick. I have no idea if he was or not. If that was just lying to tell me, which I figured there are different kinds of sick. You're hungover. You're hungover. Yeah. No, no, no, basically Mike, the second half of what Tony said is what I avoided by not
Starting point is 01:02:19 showing up on top. He got to have it on the front end, Mike. So you should be thanking him, Mike. I respect that. I respect that. I respect you. You know what the worst part is? Mike is taking it's being so kind to me.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I kind of wish he'd just give it to me so I could feel, now I feel worse. He's not going to do it. I know what the worst. I'm actually proud of you that you recognize because again, you are in this business and realize I shouldn't go down on the sideline with a sideline pass that says Westwood won on it. Him, you know, because that just would be a good one. I actually respect that because like in my situation, like it wasn't, I wasn't mad he didn't pick up the sideline pass.
Starting point is 01:02:55 No big deal. My problem was he stuck from the box somehow passed security into the press box hammer. Oh, that's the awful. It bringing beer, the beer's in their hands walking into the press box and I'm like, are you doing? Tony, I've, listen, I've apologized like seven times. That is Tony, I'm with you. That is crossing a monster line there for sure.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Be great at that, B the jelly jerseys online. Well, and plus how he asked me how we was like, hey, did your buddy make it down on the field? And I had already gotten that he said he was sick. I knew he wasn't going to make it down. And I had to do an interview with Eric Allen who does pregame for the Raiders. So that got me down on the field later than I normally am. So I just said to how well I got down on the field because you wanted me to do that interview. So he may have been down there after I was down there. And how is like, oh, okay, you know, so.
Starting point is 01:03:49 No big deal. To my, to go up to point, it's getting one press pass, not the end time. No, no, no. But Mike, you were talking to Aaron Rogers, right? Like you were hanging out with him. I was talking to Aaron Rogers and I did get breaking news out of talking to Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 01:04:03 What's up? The breaking news is that he fully expects to golf in the Lake Tahoe event in July. Okay. So he plans up playing football next month. I know. So basically listen, me and the whole trying to dig for news and stuff. I went up to him. I said, how are you doing?
Starting point is 01:04:22 He said, you know, just rehabbing every day. I said, okay, enough football talk. That was it. I don't, I don't really get into that doing that. You know, that's what I said. Are you going to play in Tahoe? He's like, Oh, yeah, I am not missing that of them. So that's what I want to know what the hell he's taking because I need to get some of it. Billy's is all this stuff's getting better. You see now this tight rope on the high ankle sprains where Brock Bowers could get from Georgia came back early, but this would all this makes me wonder though was, you know, we tore as a kill.
Starting point is 01:04:52 He's but did he tear it fully or did he tear it partially? There's certainly a huge difference in that. I still don't think apologies stew to you and Mike. Yeah, I don't think the jets are going to be in this thing. So even though Aaron would want to, I think Aaron will want to prove, look at, I can come back. Man, I'm working, I'm working a risk at 39 years old to maybe re-anger that instead of just getting ready for next year, but you're prideful like all athletes.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I don't care if you're a Hall of Fame or like Aaron or Tony or an average player like me, you don't want to let an injury defeat you. You want to get back out and say, see, I told you I would be back and going to do it. So that would be the pride thing to me that Aaron might say, I told you I'm going to be back and I am. But I'm man, I don't know if I'm solid. I'd let him step on that field if they're not in a playoff run. The Jacksonville team that you played for that you cover, you're part of their broadcast
Starting point is 01:05:45 every single week. Was that is frustrating a loss for that last week? Not that they lost the game, the way they lost the game. How frustrating was that? It was disappointing. But I think you got to step back with a big picture of it. The team won five in a row. And everyone was like, oh gosh, they're super well contender.
Starting point is 01:06:03 After one game, now everyone's sour on them. It is what it is, it's Santa Felle. I mean, Mike and I both been in situations. I've got my ass kicked on the field before. I've been part of those games where it just does not go your way. Right. And you play against a good team that lost three in a row and they needed that.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Not that Jacksville didn't. And I think they showed up and they were trying to do their best and compete. They got, it was an avalanche. And it just kept on going. And they were out of sorts. Trevor was out of sorts from the beginning for whatever reason. I mean, he came out after the game, which I always appreciate about him. He owned it. He says worst game I've ever played. Everything was sped up. Offense line did not play great. It wasn't that. They actually weren't as bad as they were, but they had a bunch of misdysignments. The receivers running around routs. I mean, for whatever reason, they decided all along the same day offensively to just crap the bad. I mean, for whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:06:56 And all of us, if you play this game along them up, if you've been in that situation, and the best thing they could do is, you know, lock lock in, block out all the noise of the media and people like us talking about them and learn from it and then flush it. Because if you go, if you go into this week against Tennessee, which is frankly a more important game because it's a division, you're seven and three. And then you have the game. Think about it. Their next two games are against rookie quarterbacks, right? We'll love us in Tennessee, which as Tony said, a division game. But then the rematch with Houston Houston kicked their ass. It's been a great season 37 17 and C.J. Stroud has done nothing but get better. I mean, this Texans team has been incredible. But I'm with Tony. You play long enough,
Starting point is 01:07:42 you get smoked every now and then it happens. That's why these next two games coming back against Tennessee, and especially Houston are going to be really interesting to see. Goal of your point is it's interesting. We brought that first Houston game. This seems six and three. They lost the Chiefs one possession game that had a chance, you know, in the fourth quarter to do something. But the Houston loss in the San Francisco loss,
Starting point is 01:08:06 both those losses that he showed up and it was like, who are you? Yeah, like they played so bad. And then they flushed it one five straight. And so the hope is that, you know, it's just one of those things that, for whatever reason, they show up sometimes and just are out of sorts.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And Doug, I mean, Doug, I think one of the best coaches in the NFL, he even said he was funny at the press conference. He had a list. He started just reading the list of crap that went wrong. And it was one of those days. He's like, all right, move on. I'll ask you both as lineman, Mike at the fence of limontoni and offensive lineman in the NFL. How come no one ever discusses, we don't, we just pay attention to the quarterbacks. I'm guilty as charged, but the Niners had it had Trent Williams, the best offensive linemen in football and Debo Samuille for a couple of weeks. And yet no one points that out when they're playing badly. It's just a rock party. No good. Get
Starting point is 01:08:56 them out of here. It's weird, Tony. That's the way we cover football. But that's the NFL today. I mean, I love the game still, but I enjoyed it, you know, and I think every old guy says this, I enjoyed it more, but I played because it was a more balanced quarterback was still critical. I mean, that position's been critical since the game started. But today, that's all we pay attention to,
Starting point is 01:09:18 that's everyone talks about. I think fantasy football probably feeds out a little bit as well. But the end of the day, this game is still a physical game and you win it to line of scrimmage. And I said it going into that game, and I said, listen, if the Jaguars do not meet or match the physicality of the 49ers,
Starting point is 01:09:35 because I believe they're the most physical team when they're healthy on both lines of scrimmage. They have an offense that's physical downhill running, very few teams do that in the NFL. And then defensively, they have four guys that they can rotate in there and with those two backers, Warner and Green Lobb, my goodness. And at the end of the day, the reason the Jaguars, you can talk about Trevor not playing well, he did not. Receivers running wrong routes, they did. And in the day, they were more physical than us and they wanted the physical match up. And if you could do that still in this wide open spread game that we have in the NFL
Starting point is 01:10:09 day, if you're more physical, you're going to win more games tonight. Tony, no, you have to run. So we appreciate the time. I love this. I want to do this almost every week, okay? And Mike's never been happier because someone speaks his language. Yes. Mikey, I did you notice that?
Starting point is 01:10:22 Right. Well, silly things go hard. You're the anybody. I mean, for stew. I mean, what I mean, you were reaching out all the time when you wanted to make sure I was going to invite you to the whole fame bar. Right. And it's been very silent since then. I mean, this is. So you say, like, I get it in text every four months, at
Starting point is 01:10:42 least I showed up, but I wasn't hammered. I mean, I get in the text every four months. At least I showed up, but I wasn't hammered. I mean, I'm not hammered. I'm not hammered. Hey, and I did get hammered. Mikey, let me though, Mikey, let me know the next game you want to go to so I can not get it for you.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Yeah. We'll do. Tony, I'm trying to leave you alone. I didn't want to bother you. You're all a favor now. Oh, anytime, anytime you want me out, anytime you want me out, do it.
Starting point is 01:11:03 All right, we appreciate it, man. I haven't got a weekend and good luck this weekend with your Jaguars, my friend. I see you guys. Mike, why we have you? Can I get a few football questions in it? Okay? Sure. It's like the stories of the week here. Your thoughts here on what's going on with Bill Belichack.
Starting point is 01:11:18 There are reports now Gary Myers is reporting Billy told us right before we started recording that the chargers of the truck runner to lay at Bill Belichack next year. Do you see Belichack leaving and you see Belichack going somewhere like like LA to go to the chargers? That's a perfect spot. I see him going somewhere else because I think deep down now it's not something and he's going to admit to and God knows he wouldn't talk about it. Think he wants shoes record and he's what about 17 wins away or something like that from that,
Starting point is 01:11:47 which would take 10 years in New England, right? It's exactly right. Do I think he wants to leave New England on a sour note, if he, in fact, does leave no, but I think one of the things that would be discussed, if he were to stay is to take some of the GMing power away, because that has not gone well over the last years and I don't think Bill would want to go down that road. So that there were reports that if they lost in Germany, he was going to be fired.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I thought that was ridiculous. There was no way, no way he is going to be fired during the season. This would be a mutual thing between he and Robert Kraft in the off season. It were to happen. And I could absolutely see him continue coaching somewhere to end up getting done. Chula's record. What'd you make of what happened with Kendoor. See this past week.
Starting point is 01:12:33 So, I mean, that this is one of those things guys where you make a change for the sake of making a change. You know, it's because it's so funny to read when you see on the bottom line, bills, fire, offense, coordinator, coordinator, Ken Dorsey, then right under it, last game, four turnovers and four drop passes, of which Ken Dorsey has zero culpability in. He has no culpability in interceptions or drop passes. That's not his fault, but it's also a team that through weeks, two through four,
Starting point is 01:13:03 they were averaging 37 points a game, and then in the last six four, they were average in 37 points a game. And then in the last six games, they never got over 26 points. So it's not one game. It's cumulative. And it's also a situation where, you know, think of the tree. It was Dave All who was there and Dorsey was a quarterback coach. Dave All leaves. Dorsey takes over. Now Dorsey leaves Joe Brady, who is a quarterback coach, takes over. It's just one of those things where you're looking, you feel you have a playoff team, you feel you have a team that can do some damage and you feel you need to shake something up. What's the easiest way to shake something up without really shaking? You're not benching
Starting point is 01:13:34 Stefan Diggs, you're not benching Josh Allen, who leads the league in turnovers, you're putting them on the bench? How? No, you're not putting them on the bench. So you shake up the, that backdrop of it. And you now let Joe Brady and Josh Allen work together and see if that creates some kind of spark. Mike, what I don't like about it is Sean McDermott has fired his defensive coordinator. Now he's calling defensive plays. He's gotten rid of his offensive coordinator. And like at some point in Sean McDermott, no. Yeah. But, but right now Sean's going to have it up until the owner says Sean to have a job. He's got to get a guy to fire. Right. No. Yeah, but but right now Sean is going to have it up until the owner says
Starting point is 01:14:05 Sean to have a job. He's got the guy's the fire. Right. Exactly. He's got to make other decisions. Yeah. Uh, quickly hear Mike, uh, Dishon Watson, uh, not an easy guy to feel bad for, um, but I certainly feel bad for that fan base and you know that fan base very well. You're from that area. Now that is a tough tough tough pill for Browns fans to swallow. Man, they had a chance with Dishon Watson, Mike. tough pill for Browns fans to swallow them. And they had a chance with the show on Watson Mike. Well, I mean, they had a chance. It's not like he had re has reclaimed how he was playing in Houston. No, while he was starting to get better, he just enough with a really good defense, Mike. He did. You're right. And that's
Starting point is 01:14:37 why I think Cleveland is still in it to make the playoffs because of their record now. And the fact that they have the best defense in football, they in Baltimore. So now what does DTR do, the young quarterback, who got to start another game but found out 90 minutes before the game he was starting. Now you get the reps during the week, you get to go over the game plan with the offensive coordinator, there's a difference there. Now it's not like we're going to see, you know, or we're going to see a Will levis coming in for your first start.
Starting point is 01:15:06 And now I know DTR started before, but early on, I have a monster game and then come back down to earth. I think he has three interceptions, no touchdowns, PJ Walker, you know, more interceptions and touchdowns as well. So they got to rely on the running. But they did it anyway, right? They did when they had Nick Chubb. You know, now it's Jerome for they brought a cream hunt back. That's still what they're living on as a running
Starting point is 01:15:28 game. So they still have a shot. But man, that is, that is some bad luck. And that is a whole lot of money to guaranteed money to pay out for a guy that's doing absolutely nothing for your team. No doubt about it. Abilion, I was discussing right before we started here, whether or not you would defend your brother, okay? Bob Goliak, okay? If Bob was a cheater, the way John Horbaugh has defended Jim Horbaugh here. Of course I would. What'd you say? Of course I would. Would Bob defend you? Yes, I think Bob would defend, I think Bob would defend me as well. I think why are you doubtful, Billy? I just, you know, this whole cheating thing. I mean, listen, everybody tries to
Starting point is 01:16:12 get science. They went too far. They crossed the line and they're going to get punished for it. The whole thing though, what a mess. I said this earlier, my son Mike really disagreed with me. Not so much everybody like the school, the coaches, the players, but just the players. There's part of me that hope for the players sake that they make the run and win the title. Because like most things, it's the adults that screw things up and the kids get punished for it. Like the kids that didn't have their head coach on the field of first three games, because the ridiculousness of him buying a burger or whatever for a recruit during COVID.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Now they may not have them on the sideline for the last few games because of something that was out of their control that they didn't do and they get punished for it. And I hate that. So I wonder if there are people that are saying, man, I hope for the player's sake that they make a run here. But yeah, I would back my brother. I mean, at the end of the day, what if they win it all, it's kind of like spy gate and deflate gate, right? I mean, there are
Starting point is 01:17:09 going to be those that think less of the Patriots, but you know what they have on their fingers, they have the rings. So do I endorse cheating? No, but I know everybody gives it a shot. And some are more line steppers than others about how they acquire said information. Last one of the way out here, the game of the weekend and the NFL, chiefs and eagles, by the way, I hope Michigan wins the whole thing because I want you to reaction to the college football.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Oh my gosh. I do. How many people, asterisk, asterisk, oh no, make sure you put an hand in it. It's like, oh my god. Well, not just that, but you know what will happen is they'll do their investigation in like six years from now. They but like, you know what, what'll happen is they'll do their investigation in like six years from now, they're like,
Starting point is 01:17:46 you know what, we're gonna vacate that time. We're gonna vacate. And it's like okay, the kids will still have the rings. That's just my point. Right. Vacates just the dumbest thing in the world. And don't get me wrong. Cheating to the degree they have cheated,
Starting point is 01:17:59 you can get an advantage. You definitely can get, I mean, to know another team's signals is definitely an advantage. But I've also said, because people try and steal signals legally, which seems weird, say, steal, but you try and get them by looking at them, getting patterns and everything. So to me, it's always incumbent on offenses to change their signals, use wristbands, whatever, which was Penn State did when they played Michigan. they use wristbands. Eventually, maybe you go to the communication and the ears and the helmets, but I've always been like, you should be switching up your doesn't, doesn't excuse you for crossing the line and cheating,
Starting point is 01:18:34 but in my opinion, offense, it should be changes signals all the time or, you know, a few times a year or when they feel they need to mix it up. I kind of hope that they do win it all and that they do vacate the championship like five or six years from now. And then Michigan will have like the most accomplished storage room in the history of athletics with all the vacated championship banners in there. It is stunning, isn't it? The vacating just just makes me laugh.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I mean, listen, the NCAA makes me laugh. Look at their latest decision with James Madison denying their second appeal. What was that about why did it do that? Because there's a rule that says you got to be two years once you go to listen, what do they get out of that? I don't understand it. They get out of that and not setting a precedent of letting somebody do it, even though James Madison has checked all the boxes of playing all division one opponents and oh, by the way, beating them in their conference, yet the only way they can get in a bowl game, if enough, there aren't enough 500 teams to make the 41 or 42 bowl games that are out there. It's a joke.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I mean, it's a joke. Really? I feel like we should have the James Madison coach on it. We should make them our national champion. What do you think? Okay. Okay. If you really want to share, an idea, feel bad for them. Feel bad for the good. I do like that they are setting this up for James Madison to do what UCF did a couple
Starting point is 01:19:55 years ago. Yes. Yeah. Where they just wait on that. So the champs. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. And I want to get behind that. Billy. Yeah. I'm trying to tell you, Mike, we appreciate it. Have a great weekend. Congratulations on being a grandfather. Second time now, right? Yes. Second time at that beautiful thing. She had lovely little girl and I can't wait to spoil her. I will talk to you next week.
Starting point is 01:20:14 All right. See you guys. Hey guys, thanks for having me on again. Why are you thanking us, George? I just want everyone to know that I am currently 4 days sober. Congratulations. You look great.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Thank you. And I took an Uber ride just so I can be on this show again today. And I'm smiling today because I see you guys. Okay. You're making us smile. How many more days do you plan on being sober? Yeah, exactly. I mean, I'm trying to get some new years. Oh, wow. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Years. That's, that's good. I would shoot for Thanksgiving. I would shoot for Thanksgiving first, but the years will work. Well, let's not tell Sherbert I'm going to be in Fort Myers, because a limo show up to my house. Oh, boy. Yeah, we don't want to do that. He's in a rain delay. It is a pickleball match right now. He said he's gonna jump on him. Gord, where are you going right now? I currently am back in Boston. I was in Tampa. I was on stage with Imagine Dragons, Chris Stapleton and H.R. with my brother Robin Camille for Veterans Day. We got an amazing event. It's 16,000 people. Hold on 24 hours for the military. So now I'm back in Boston. I'm trying to recover from three months in my life
Starting point is 01:21:30 that have been pretty wild, including four weeks in Vegas. There we go. I'm here. There we go. Joining us from a rain delay, it is pickleball match. What's going on, man? What's up, guys? By the way, just do us a favor, share bear.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Between now and New Year's Eve. Just leave Gord alone, okay? Just leave me alone, okay? He needs to be left alone, okay? I'm glad he wasn't on the crowd. He's working good. He's looking good. It's the best he's ever looked
Starting point is 01:21:55 except when he was wearing the bunny costume. I mean, that's it. He's looking really good. Let's get to the games here because share bear's got a bad connection and the rain might stop and I'll have to go back out and play pickle ball. Billy, I was going to say you look pretty sharp today too.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I don't know what you got going on. Hey, shoot. Okay, it's not a photo shoot. I took a shower and shaved. I took a shower. He said, Gord, who's driving you right now? Who's what's going on?
Starting point is 01:22:17 I was bringing him in conversation, but I don't want him to get into accident. He needs to stay focused. Does he want to pick football? That's all right. That's exactly where this is going. Asking, sir, do you know about football? Well, soccer. Soccer.
Starting point is 01:22:32 You just soccer, guy. OK. All right, well, just listen, the less you know, the better in this game, OK? Just tell them, they just pick a team. That's all he has to do, all right? What's his name? What's your name?
Starting point is 01:22:44 Michael. Michael. Michael. Michael. All right, let's get to the games here guys. We have chargers at Packers. This is so great. Chargers minus three on the road at Lambo field. I'm going to K funk first. K funk. Who you taking? I gotta go with the talent on this one. I'll give you the chargers for going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win.
Starting point is 01:23:10 I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win.
Starting point is 01:23:18 I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. We're in charge. You're taking the chargeers. All right. And Michael, was it Michael, the driver? Who's Michael taking?
Starting point is 01:23:26 Michael, do you want the chargers to the packers? He says what my decision. So he said the chargers. Okay. So Michael's also taking the chargers. Okay. Let's get to the next game. We have the Cardinals taken on the Texans here.
Starting point is 01:23:39 CJ Straub might be the rookie of the year and the MVP. They are minus five at home. Kyler Murray is back. He's healthy. I'm going to go into Gord first to your Gord. You're picking on behalf of yourself and Michael the driver. Who you taking here? I am going with Kyle Murray. I just feel like his legs are fresh right now. I don't know. I know it's tough to go against
Starting point is 01:23:50 Houston. They're playing so good. But I think I think that's too big of a spread. Like you agree with me? 100% 100%. 100%. 100%.
Starting point is 01:23:58 100%. 100%. 100%. 100%. 100%. 100%. 100%. 100%. 100%. 100%. 100%. they're playing so good but I think I think that's too big with spread. Like do you agree with me? 100% 100% 100% 100%
Starting point is 01:24:10 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% Okay, little shearman is on the tennis court. So okay, she have to go. You'll get it You'll pick your life. All right. All right. So so little share bear is picking the rest of the games for big share bear This is great. I'm all pretty good. But okay, we're going to be cardinal. We're going to you are Michael to pick the games for you. No We're gonna go cardinals. All right, you're taking the Cardinals and now little share bear will step in for you. Okay, who do Carl take
Starting point is 01:24:42 Okay, Carl to I know Billy I have the Texans okay okay fuck are you taking here man I honestly gordy your spot your spot on here too many points of Kyle Murray he's too hot but I'm taking Houston I'm tired of going against out there at home so I'm gonna go Houston all right let's get to the next game little share bear Bear, I'm starting with you, okay? We have the Seahawks at the Rams. The Rams are plus one at home. Little Share Bear, we take it.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Wow, the Rams, they're on a two year slide right now. And I think there's a lot of turmoil going on in LA. I'm going with Seattle. Oh, okay. Oh, he's a little strong. He's a little strong. He's a little strong. He's a little strong.
Starting point is 01:25:24 The f***ing Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I can tell you that much I'm not going to keep asking him, just tell him to take someone else. I remember my tape. This one. Mike, you pick it. L.A. So I'll go Seattle. Michael. Michael. Michael.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Michael. Michael. Michael. Michael. Michael. I mean, I remember I might take this one. All right, Mike, you pick it. LA, so I'll go Seattle. Michael's taking LA, you're taking Seattle. Gord, that's how we do it now. You have to Michael to make the picks, then go up. OK.
Starting point is 01:25:55 I like that. Billy, who do Carl take on this one? Carl took the Seahawks. OK, fuck, who you taking here? This is my favorite game this week. I'm all over the Rams here. Really? Yep. Me and Michaels go. Yep. All right. Next game here, guys. Broncos starting to play better football. They're minus two and a half. They're
Starting point is 01:26:14 taking on the Vikings and Josh Dobbs. Oh my God. I wish it was my quarterback. Let's go to, let's go to Gord first. Gord asked Michael and then go out to say Mike, Minnesota. Mike, I like his pick. All right, so you're staying with that pick. Okay. Two and a half minus two and a half Denver taking on the Vikings, little share bear who you got going Denver, big win last week. I think I'm going to go minimum. And just so you guys know, I miss the inside joke from the Seattle pick.
Starting point is 01:26:41 I had no idea he loved Seattle. Yeah. It doesn't matter. You should listen. If you're a good son, you would take exactly what your dad doesn't want you to take. Well, he's his brother. He's not son.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Brother, brother, brother, brother. What's going on? What are you doing? What are you doing, Shermer? Okay, now we have problems here. Because Gordy left his uber, so we're not gonna get Michael's. Where's Michael?
Starting point is 01:27:03 All right, so I have a replacement. Thanks, thanks. Thanks for running back of the University of Maryland with my brother Stan Bonato. Okay, sure. All right, let's get stand caught up real quick. This is Mojo's best friend growing up. Okay, I can't believe I thought that was right. It's son. He looks young. It's hard to see. They're in a pickleball tournament. It's all very confusing things are going very quickly right now, Billy. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Gord's in a truck the next one minute. The next minute he's not. He's got a Maryland running back with him on the streets of God knows where. What the f*** is happening? Gord, who's the Maryland running back taking? Vikings at Broncos. Broncos do it a half.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Maryland running back taking Vikings at Broncos Broncos do it have. I'm going to Broncos. Oh god, I got it. Great. And I apologize. What's his name again, Gord? Yeah. Damn it. Not all Moldios.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Best run growing up. All right. Did everyone pick this game? Well, wait, hold on a second. Michael had already picked the Broncos. So now we're going to fight against their Broncos for this pick? No, he gets a, Dan gets a pick. Okay, so Dan will just pick two games.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Okay, that's fine. All right, all right. Did everyone pick that game? Yeah, I mean, I did not. All right, then you take a K-Fox. Yeah, me, give me the muddabber as I call them. All right. Jobs. Give me minutes. Total. Let's do this. All right. Let's go to the final game here. Eagles that chief.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Chiefs minus three. Let's go to share bear son. Share bear son. Who are you taking here? Chiefs quick turn around. She's by two touchdowns. Wow. She's by two touchdowns. It's Gordon. Are you at a bar? Yeah. It's good. It's right. You just told us you were going to stop drinking. Well, he's not. Dan is.
Starting point is 01:28:49 It's a good point. Dan, do you have any, uh, this Dan have good Mojo stories for us? Can we talk to you on this back or now? Get a Mojo story. Yeah, plenty of good ones, but not sure I can share. Believe me, you for Mojo stories. Okay, Dan. If we could do that one, then All right, great.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Go. It's going to have a drink in his hand by the time this I know we is Eagles at Chief might as three. Go. Who you take it? All right, if I don't say that, I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I's going to have a drink in his hand by the time the second one is over. I know we is. Uh, Eagles at chief chiefs might as three. Gorg, who you taking?
Starting point is 01:29:29 All right. If I don't say the Eagles, the guy next to me will probably, uh, you know, slap me right now. So I'm going to go with the Eagles. Okay. Should we give Mike the chiefs, the driver? Yeah, absolutely. Sure. All right. You look like you to pick them. Yeah. I think I agree. Okay. He drove like he would have picked them. Right. Dan right. Good. You look like you to pick them. Yeah, I think I drove like you would have picked them. Right. Dan, who is Dan taking here? Oh, he's from New Jersey. Well, he goes all day. Okay. Okay, fuck, are you taking here? Yeah, this is a good guy. Okay,
Starting point is 01:30:05 fuck you taking you. This is a tough car. The toughest game. Calc and the Swifties are joining this week, right? Aren't the families. Yeah, the Taylor's parents
Starting point is 01:30:13 are meeting the Kelsey parents this week in the booth together. I think that's bad mojo. Give me Philly here. Okay. All right. What did Carl take in this
Starting point is 01:30:21 game, Billy? Carl took the chiefs. Okay. So has everyone picked this game? Everyone has picked this game. Okay, so guys, we appreciate it. Gordon, enjoy your lunch with your friend Dan. Stay sober if you can. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:35 And little share bear. Tell your brother to leave Gord alone until I have to New Year's, okay? He needs to be left alone, all right? Thank you. I can pass that along. All right, guys. God bless football.
Starting point is 01:30:47 God bless football. Billy, we were all disappointed. We'll get to jujujes picks here in a second. We were all disappointed that you were not there for Christmas because everyone has grown to love your relationship. What do you make of him trashing you for your GQ photo sheets? I don't understand the things that you do and say. And I I understand that it's like it's because you're never actually listening. So then when you have to relay
Starting point is 01:31:12 information, you just kind of make it up because I told stew guys I had to be out because they had me scheduled to do this video shoot for another project that we're working on. And stew got turned that into billies on a photo shoot to Chris Sim. So Chris Sim naturally is like, who would pay to take photos of Billy? What photo shoot is he on? And then Stu got said, I got the GQ or and it's like, okay, like this is just absurd. Now. And then of course, he's like, why would he be at a photo shoot? And I would never be at a photo shoot because no one would pay to take my picture.
Starting point is 01:31:43 So yeah. So how was the photo shoot? It went well. Yeah. Good. Sims missed you very much. We missed having you during very prisoners. You love you, Billy. I juju. You've been telling us that you have the lock of the weekend in the NFL and believe it involves Seattle and the Rams. Absolutely. I've been hearing that Geno has written back a couple weeks ago and I'm taking the Rams plus one. I'm a bit the house on that. If you had the house and you got a house step out of your house, put your house on draft Kings and you have two houses after this weekend because Geno Smith and the Seahawks are going down, baby.
Starting point is 01:32:27 That would be great if you could actually put your out. I do like the idea of draftings paying people off in houses. Right out my mortgage, I just uploaded the draft, it's a mortgage bet. Well, it's the exact same house that you already have now. You just have three of them. You see, out of everything inside exactly the same. You win your house. Yeah. How's it you already have now you just have three of them You win your house Quick actors charges charges plus three hammer it car nose Texans hammered in Texas
Starting point is 01:33:02 Vikings Broncos Vikings whether they game two or to have Eagles, chiefs, flag was flat minus three. Let's go. All right. Do you guys feel like, why can't all our pickers be that efficient? You got all the dogs.
Starting point is 01:33:13 No, I was going to say, I feel like, I feel like Juju should be running our pick segment because that went very smoothly and very quickly. There was no like bullshit in between. Juju, are you interested
Starting point is 01:33:24 in this moving forward? For God bless football. The pick segment we do with Gord Grinkowski with Carl Douglas with K fuck, it's at a hit. I've lost control of it. Billy's lost control of it. It goes way too long. And it's a tough edit for Billy and Mike. You're the part.
Starting point is 01:33:38 You're the kind of person that's going to keep it moving. Juju, are you interested in hosting this moving forward? Yes, sir. I am man. 100%. JoJo, this week we had Gordy's Uber driver, Michael, making picks. Three picks. He didn't make time. Yeah, we did have all the games picked because Gordy got out of the Uber. So then his, the rest of his drivers picks were not made by him. No. And then all the sudden, all the sudden Mojo's best friend from Maryland started making pics in a bar. Five minutes after
Starting point is 01:34:09 Gord's, he was a drink until New Year's. Yeah. And share bears brother who's to God. So that was his son, spoiler alert. We're at the end, Billy. We're good. They've heard it. I think God bless you. You're good. You're good for this. I'm saying every week. All right, Billy, as the leader of this of this program, are you good? Juju's going to be handling the pick segment every week, moving forward. You're a key to move. Yes, absolutely. However, still you still need to be there.
Starting point is 01:34:30 This is not a get out of the pick segment card for you. So what to me, I thought I was going to get away with it. All right, whether I'm there or not, it's your, it's your, you're there. No, no, no, you're there. I'll be there, Juju. I will be there. I'll be there. your, it's your, you're there. No, no, I'll be there, Juju. I will be there.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Okay, I will be there, making a segment longer than it needs to be. You will, you will be there to keep it moving and make it shorter. Okay. Nice. Are you guys all betting the house because I am actually, I believe Juju, I am betting the house on the L.A. Rams. I am actually, I believe Jiu-Jiu, I am betting the house on the L.A. Rams. I am.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Got to, they have down for about a week. They've been arrested. Oh, fantastic. For this weekend. And again, a couple of the rest of the world, them see out of sucking. So I see it. God bless football.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Heh. you

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