The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Gen CFB: Weekend of Chaos and Upsets

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

Jessica Smetana and Lucy Rohden are back with a new episode of Gen CFB to talk about the biggest upsets from the weekend, including Vanderbilt stunning Alabama, before previewing the Week 7 slate of g...ames. Plus, we go Off Rohden with Lucy in South Carolina! Help out Hurricane Milton victims with food on the frontlines: Give what you can to World Central Kitchen at Donate.WCK.org/LeBatard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:32 We have not gotten to talk about upset week together at all Lucy, cause you've been feeling a little under the weather. And I would be too if I was at the South Carolina Mississippi game instead of Vanderbilt and Alabama this weekend. Lucy, come on. Look South Carolina didn't manage to catch anything I caught the Stomach
Starting point is 00:01:50 Flourish though so I am leading the Gamecocks in receptions and unfortunately it was nothing anyone wanted to catch it's been a rough week but I had the thoughts of a beautiful blood week to get me through it. Yeah it was a weekend packed with upsets. We're going to talk about all of them and do a recap of next weekend's games. But Lucy, when you're feeling under the weather, I know something that might make you feel better.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And that's Cheez-Its. Cheez-Its to settle the stomach. Then try it. This season, we are recapping all of college football and feeling the cheesiest with Cheez-It. I think they should send Lucy a couple boxes to settle her stomach. I think they should send some to my dad too.
Starting point is 00:02:27 He did a lot of cleanup, so he deserves some Cheez-It still. Oh man, Lucy. Well, at least you were back at home and not puking through 120 degree weather down here in Miami, so I guess that's a small consolation. Yeah, I won't give you the details. That's okay. Well, we'll go to something that made a lot of people
Starting point is 00:02:46 in Tuscaloosa puke instead, which is the Alabama Vanderbilt game. So I've already talked a little bit about this on the Lebatard show, but I want to hear your thoughts on this huge upset for Vanderbilt football. Yeah, so the nice part of South Carolina Ole Miss just being pretty much over by the end of the first quarter
Starting point is 00:03:04 is I've made my way up to the press box and I said, we're going to watch Alabama Vanderbilt. I think what was so remarkable about this game is that it wasn't that Alabama lost it in any fashion, which like obviously they lost the game. Vanderbilt was just so much better. They like just dominated this game. It wasn't some sort of like fluky type of scenario. Like Vanderbilt kicked their ass. That's awesome. I read that Vanderbilt like punted twice, two times. Like Alabama could not stop them. Like it was just like a good old
Starting point is 00:03:34 fashion, you got your ass beat by Diego Pavia. Yeah so I think Diego Pavia is such a, he's such a perfect college football character because he plays at a Juco the New Mexico Military Institute after getting no FBS offers then he goes to New Mexico State now he's at Vanderbilt with all of his coaches from New Mexico State who he's credited with a lot of his growth and development as a quarterback and being able to sort of like hit the ground running this season at Vanderbilt and then after the game has one of the greatest postgame interviews of all time with Alyssa Lang, just dropping f-bombs,
Starting point is 00:04:09 talking about how turnt it is at Vandy. And it was just, like you said, it wasn't flukey. I mean, like the pick six is, that tends to like be an odd thing that could sort of go either way. And there are certain plays here and there that like, you know, force fumble. Okay, like if Alabama falls on that, maybe it's different. But like you said,
Starting point is 00:04:28 they score 40 on Alabama. Like that's not a fluke. That's just a well executed offense that really took advantage of Alabama not being able to stop them and like keeping their foot on the gas. We've seen a lot of teams in this position sort of like play conservative in the second half when they're up big against a highly ranked team. And that never works. Justin Wilcox, I'm looking at you. It doesn't work. And Clark Lee and Vanderbilt, they kept their foot on the gas and they won this game, Lucy. Is there anything else you want to talk about before we move on to another one of the big upsets, Tennessee and Arkansas?
Starting point is 00:05:01 I think it's just remarkable. I'm not familiar with Nashville. I don't think I've ever been. It's weird that I don't know 100 percent if I ever have been or not. Two and a half miles from the stadium to the river that they threw it in. So I think we should give some extra props for they moved so much further than Alabama did that entire game. The goalpost did. True. Yeah. Vandy just crushing the time of possession, keeping the offense moving the entire game. Everyone's mad at Kalen DeBoer. He'll get a chance of redemption later on this season. But for Vanderbilt, biggest win in the history of their football program and
Starting point is 00:05:36 a huge win for Clark Lee. On the flip side of that, Lucy, a big win for Sam Pittman this past weekend against Tennessee at home. Arkansas unranked coming into this game. Tennessee the fourth best team in the country in the AP poll. Arkansas ends up winning at 19 to 14. Tennessee had the chance to go ahead on the final drive. I think they let Arkansas score at the end. I know there is maybe like some debate over that but then they got the ball back. Yeah they got the ball back and oh the last offensive drive for Tennessee was rough. Nico Iamalieva ends up running out of bounds with time expiring. Didn't get a throw into the end zone, didn't throw it away.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Nothing just runs out of bounds. Lucy, is this just a Tennessee team with a good offense, but a young quarterback? Is that what we're watching? Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's the fairest sort of takeaway from Tennessee. Their defense is very good. Like, it's a little weird to see. I think Tennessee's defense might be better than their offense, which is something that I never
Starting point is 00:06:32 thought I would say. That final play was just like the most just like freshman shit ever. And like, I get it, you know? I don't know how to play in that environment. That's like a first time thing. This game felt a little bit more fluky than Alabama or yeah, Alabama Vanderbilt where tons of injuries happen.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Things are just odd in Arkansas. Things are always weird. This sort, I don't necessarily want to say that this is like a career saving win for Sam Pittman. Cause like literally last week we talked about how Sam Pittman was like on the hot seat, but like this definitely bottomed till the end of the season for sure and it's it's real I will say playing Rocky top as you storm the field. Oh my god, that was think as hell Tennessee fans also puking after this game
Starting point is 00:07:16 Shout out to Vanderbilt another thing We forgot to mention playing Nick Saban soundbite of saying that Vanderbilt stealing play easy place to play in the SEC great work Yeah, that was excellent trolling. I love pettiness. This is why we love college football. According to PFF, Nico only was 4 for 14 on throws with 10 plus air yards. That's not great. And like you said, probably a big win for Arkansas because there's a chance they go bowling now. Like They've got a couple games left on their schedule that they could definitely win and get to that six win mark, which after last season would be a pretty big improvement
Starting point is 00:07:52 because last year they only won four games the entire season. So that was a huge win for Arkansas and Tennessee now hosts Florida. Arkansas has got to buy. And then they will move on to more conference play. Lucy, in the same conference, we're talking a lot of SEC today, oh my God, so many upsets.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Missouri and Texas A&M. Missouri is the ninth ranked team in the country coming into this one at Kyle Field, but man, did they look like nothing in this game. We're gonna talk about Michigan a little bit later, but Missouri, Michigan are in the same category for me of like, what are you doing in the top 10? Like there's nothing that you've done that convinces me you should be in the top 10. They're both just sort of like a category of having great seasons last
Starting point is 00:08:36 year. Mizzou misses Cody Strader so badly. Like their offense is just anemic without him. Tech St. Am also has like a phenomenal defense. They're really really good They've been so good since that Notre Dame game and you're already starting to see just like how much of an immediate difference Mike Elko has made for this tech saying them program They got their ass beat there was a lot of ass beating this weekend Just like a ton of it But like tech saying them is better Mizzou was never a top 10 team to begin with. Mizzou was like, but they're not. I mean, they almost lost to Vanderbilt.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Like, probably should have lost that game. Habits of the best of us. Except for Georgia State. It does not happen to Georgia State. Yeah, it's just like Mizzou hasn't done anything this entire season to, like, convince me that they're good. Brady Cook has played like shit. Like, I'm not, I bet Texanem money line on the DraftKings app for this game, and I felt really good about it
Starting point is 00:09:28 I did not expect this like level of ass-kicking though like A&M just has a really phenomenal defense Yeah, and Wegman played really good for the first time in a while Brady cook finished with only 13 completions in this game and Texas A&M finished with five sacks and eight tackles for loss, Missouri I would also like to know because I do like to keep track of these things, kicked one of the saddest field goals I've seen in a really long time while they were down 41 to 7. Come on, at least try to score a touchdown. You cannot kick a field goal. You can't do it when you don't have a thicker kicker anymore either because at least you're like happy seeing Mivas run out there. Yeah right, everyone's like, oh yay!
Starting point is 00:10:05 You don't have him anymore so it's just not fun. No, it's not fun. And you know what else wasn't fun? For Michigan fans, watching them lose to Washington, the team that they beat in the national championship game. Michigan unveiled a third quarterback, Lucy. A mystery third quarterback appears for Michigan. They lose to Washington 17 to 27. Big win
Starting point is 00:10:25 for Washington. Probably, well definitely the biggest of the Jed Fish era because it's only been like five games. But what do you make of Michigan's quarterback struggles and who do you think their best quarterback is? Will we see all three of them again at some point this season? You know what they say, if you have three quarterbacks then you should only ever run the ball. That's a great saying. That's a saying as old as time. I've been saying this for weeks. Never throw the ball Michigan. Just don't do it. You're bad at it. You're so good at the other stuff, so just never throw the ball again. What was weird was going to this game Washington was favored, so this like wasn't actually technically an
Starting point is 00:11:03 upset. I mean you're a top 10 team losing in a rematch of the national championship game. It's also Michigan going all the way out west. Yeah. Factors into it. Yeah. And this is a, I think it's something sort of interesting to think about in the sense of like, we are going to talk about this following game. I just keep previewing stuff where USC goes all the way to Minnesota, they lose. Michigan goes all the way to Seattle, they lose. Last week Washington went all the way to the Rutgers, they lost. Like, I do think we are seeing the effects of these, this, you know, extreme travel conditions, having to go sit on a plane for seven hours
Starting point is 00:11:34 and then go play a game in Washington, which is like a phenomenal crowd, a really tough place to play. Like, Michigan is just same sort of thing as Missouri, where it's like, hey, you haven't really done enough for, like, me to really believe that you're a super great team. I know that they have a win against USC, but like you have no quarterback. They're on ranked though. So that doesn't, like it doesn't really mean anything. So like, I'm curious to see, especially, I know we'll talk about this later.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I just keep previewing. I don't know what's up with me. I'm making a lot to get through Lucy. We're really excited to talk about it. Yeah. just keep previewing. I don't know what's up with me. I'm making it to the future. We've got a lot to get through, Lucy. We're really excited to talk about it all. Yeah, there's so much going on. We're like, I'm curious to see specifically how does that travel affect Ohio State going to Oregon?
Starting point is 00:12:13 Because it really has played a difference, and I do think that was part of why Michigan lost this game. I would say the biggest part of why they lost this game is like, you should just never throw the ball again. Yeah. Just run the Wildcat permanently. Like, you should never ever, you shouldn't even have a quarterback on the ball again. Just run the Wildcat permanently. Like you should never ever, you shouldn't even have a quarterback on the field ever.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Well, the problem with Tuttle and Davis is that they turn it over a lot. The problem with Orji is he's not really a passer. At least if you play Orji, who did start this game, he got benched while they were down 14-0, which makes sense. You want to bring in a quarterback that can maybe like throw the football a little to make back some of those points you were down,
Starting point is 00:12:43 which Tuttle did, but then they still ended up losing. But at least when you play orgy, you're not risking turning it over because if Michigan's playing this long possession game, when you have turnovers like that, it kind of kills the game plan. So yeah, I'm with you on that. Washington, they play your alma mater, Iowa, this weekend.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Michigan has a bye, and then they're going up against probably still ranked Illinois. So shaping up to be kind of a tough season for Michigan. But like you said Lucy, they do have the win over USC, which now that USC has lost to Minnesota and lost to Michigan. They have fallen out of the AP top 25. They were ranked 11 though when they came to Minneapolis to play against PJ Flex Gophers. And wow, that was an exciting game. What did you make of the decision for PJ Flex to punch in a touchdown at the end while they were tied instead of maybe kicking a field goal and giving the ball back to USC only up three? It's kind of what you
Starting point is 00:13:40 have to do, especially when you're Minnesota and you're a team that like you don't necessarily know if you're going to be able to drive down the field again. Like that's just not necessarily a given thing for the gopher. So I feel like you have to be aggressive and that's sort of like PJ Flex. Like I don't want to say like the way he coaches, but just kind of like his general like aura of just like, ah, that's like PJ Flack, just like, ah, too intense. But like you're playing to win. This is a huge win for, yeah, you're rowing that you're, you're, you're elite.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You're rowing that boat. You're sprinting up and down the sideline. Like I feel like it was the right call. And obviously it was, you just, you can't bank on anything, especially when you're playing a team like USC where like you guys play a very different style of football, this is a, like not a program changing when, cause like PJ Flack is still PJ Flack in Minnesota, still still Minnesota but like you needed a win like this like you can't just sort of risk that situation. I think like my takeaway
Starting point is 00:14:32 from this is something that we talked about way before the season started of like how would I wasn't so much worried for Washington and Oregon Washington's just sort of weird but like how would USC and UCLA adjust to the Big Ten and the answer is bad, badly. It's not going to be easy. Welcome to Minneapolis, bitch. I saw a, definitely clip that, I saw a stat that USC hasn't won in the Central or Eastern time zone since 2012.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So that is not great if you're in the Big Ten. But yeah, to his credit, PJ Fleck was like, hey, you don't get many chances to beat the number 11th ranked team in the country at home, so we wanted to score a touchdown there. And obviously, drama at the end, because initially was not ruled a touchdown, then they overturned it. After the game, Lincoln Riley got into it with some reporters because they asked one of his players if they thought it was a touchdown, and he was like, that's out of bounds, don't ask them that.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Which was typical Lincoln Riley just getting upset at the media for the wrong reasons. Yeah, look, I'm going to regret asking this question because it's just going to give me a lot of DMs that I don't actually intend on answering or anything like that. But like, what has it like, I don't remember there being some sort of like specific incident that like made Lincoln Riley hate the media so much. Like I don't feel like- Like who hurt him? Like who? Like I don't remember being done so, so dirty by the media that like Lincoln Raleigh has some sort of reason to feel this way. He just like woke up and was like, I'm going to be an asshole to the media for the rest of my life. Like, and I've never really seen any sort of interaction that's made me think like, oh yeah, that's valid.
Starting point is 00:16:03 That's deserved. Yeah. Like, he's just like being rude to be rude. And I know for a fact that if I had asked that question, I would have said something. I would have said- Ooh, Lucy would have said something. I would have said something. I would say, I can't understand you when you speak to me in that tone. Ooh, that, I would have, oh, I would have been clapping in the back. Yeah, there was another thing like a few weeks ago where reporters were asking me about Bear Alexander and he's like, there's not a story there.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And then the next day it was like, he's actually, he's red-shirt and he's out of here. So yeah, it's just very, very combative with the media. Something to keep an eye on because things, I wouldn't say they've completely fallen off the rails. I think USC has an opportunity, they will have several opportunities to make up for these losses throughout.
Starting point is 00:16:44 It's a long season, all right? Yeah, they have one this week. Exactly. They're playing Penn State. We will get to that. But yeah, things are, when the head coach is getting really angsty about pretty simple questions, it's always a bad sign. Lucy, we also had upsets with SMU upsetting Louisville. Although those are two teams that were like, you know, it was like ranked versus unranked, but like pretty equally in, you know, a lot of like the advanced metrics going into it. And it was a pretty even game sort of until the end.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It was tied late. Louisville wasn't able to score at the end. So SMU gets a big conference win there. Syracuse and UNLV. Over the Friday night games this year have been really good, Lucy. I mean, if you're- Oh, not TCU of Houston, though. Even the Wednesday night game this week,
Starting point is 00:17:32 FIU and Liberty went going into overtime. Crazy. FIU with the almost upset there. The ending of UConn and Temple was crazy. I think we should bring back OPE of the Week for next week because there's been a lot of OPEs going on, but this week we needed to talk about upsets. So we'll save that for next week.
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Starting point is 00:21:07 Oh, Stugats. I hope he has the day he deserves. That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like go after yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve. It's a great kind. It's a great kind insult. Yes. Beautiful. you have the day you deserve. It's a great kind insult. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:21:28 It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out. That's a less southern bless your heart. This is the Dunlavatar Show with the Stugats. In the summer someone will screenshot the slate of games and be like, you better hope there's not a wedding this weekend. And this, it's living up to it. So to preview this electric week of college football, we are getting nutty with Hampton Farm Peanuts, the official, the official snack nut of the tailgate. I can't wait for this weekend, Lucy. the official snack nut of the tailgate. Let's go. I can't wait for this weekend, Lucy.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And oh man, I'm so excited that you're gonna be eating Hampton Farm peanut snack nuts in Eugene at the big game, the Ohio State Oregon game, number two, visiting number three in Eugene. Lucy Rodin will be there. If you're there tailgating, go say hi to her. Being off-roading, which you will see later on in this episode. Lucy- I'm not contagious anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Yeah, she's claimed she's not contagious anymore. So go up to her and test that theory out. Lucy, this is the biggest test of Ohio State season so far. Playing at Oregon, big conference game. Who do you have in this one, Lucy? Yeah, this is a game that I am not gonna like put any money on because I don't trust what I'm gonna do here. And like the biggest reason I would pick Ohio State, like that would just be my clear pick. When I watched my team get just absolutely demolished
Starting point is 00:22:56 by them this previous week, and they were like ridiculously good, but it's truly like, it's such a small little detail, but it's truly just like the having to travel from Columbus all the way to Oregon is crazy. That's a lot to do in a week. And so Oregon has played a little bit better. They've kind of played with their food all year long and they kept games close against Idaho and Boise State, but just truly like this game is just going to come down to the
Starting point is 00:23:20 atmosphere in Eugene. How well can, can Oregon's offense score? Cause like, obviously that was the issue for Iowa, but like they were able to hold Ohio State to seven points and they have. So I don't know. I'm not picking it, but I think Ohio State. But the more I say, I think Ohio State, I think Oregon. I don't know. So big 10 teams are two and nine when traveling two or more time zones this season. So like Washington and Rutgers, that game was, it felt weird, lots of weird turnovers in that one. All the games we just mentioned earlier,
Starting point is 00:23:52 where you've seen upsets after a long travel weekend. So I'm with you on like, that's an interesting trend to keep an eye on. However, Ohio State does come into this game with the best, if not like one of the best offenses in college football, according to a lot of the stats. Also the second best pass rush, according to PFF. So it's gonna be a huge test for Dylan Gabriel
Starting point is 00:24:12 and the Ducks to score if Ohio State comes out swinging really fast, but like you said, they've had some sluggish starts this season before. So it could be one of those situations where Chip Kelly's like, hey, I got homecoming, I got this Oregon game in a few weeks, I'm gonna keep a lot of plays in my holster, not show the world too many things because I think we can win these first five games
Starting point is 00:24:30 without really getting in my bag. So I wouldn't be surprised if we see some new stuff from Ohio State's offense in this game. But Lucy, Oregon, they're still solid, they've got a good offense, they've got a good defense, they're the number three team in the country right now. And so I think it's going to be a close game. But if you want to go off of the time zone trends,
Starting point is 00:24:49 you pick Oregon at home. It's a really difficult home atmosphere. But if you want to go off of like stat sheet for the first half of the season, even despite the fact that Ohio State, like we said, hasn't had a huge, crazy, like top 10, top 15, top 20, even game, Ohio State's looking like the slightly better team on paper, but that's why we play the games Lucy. Oregon's offensive line, I feel
Starting point is 00:25:09 like it's going to be a big thing. They looked really shitty through the first few weeks of the season. They pulled it together against Oregon State. Like if they can protect Dylan Gabriel, he can make plays. Also just like, don't even worry about Jeremiah Smith. He's just going to do whatever. Just if you stop everybody else, you'll be chill. You just let him do his thing. Don't even bother. Just put all your resources elsewhere. Yeah, I think if we're also going off Lucy's record at games, like I have Ohio State in this one, no offense Lucy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I know Alabama ended up winning that game, but like it's, they lost Vanderbilt the next week. So I think you still cursed them. Just saying that. Hey, look, I watched Ohio State play this week, unfortunately. I get what's going on. I get it. Earlier in the day, 3.30 on ABC, Texas and Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Texas is a big favorite in this game, Lucy. And like we said on the show earlier this week, Oklahoma's offense has really struggled this season. So do you see any way in which Oklahoma can win this game despite being a two touchdown underdog so far on DraftKids? Yes, I do, but not by any logic or reason, just by the fact that it's Red River and nothing's right at Red River. Like it's
Starting point is 00:26:08 just like the whole aura of that game is super weird. I can't remember if Texas was a big favorite last year but they definitely were a favorite last year to beat Oklahoma. Oklahoma won that game. This is just like kind of a game where it's like I hate to say the cliche of like throw the record books out. Taylor just said that in my ear. Yeah, it's so cliche. I hate saying it, but like that's- But it's a big rivalry game. It's the type, and it's a weird game.
Starting point is 00:26:29 It's not at a home stadium. It's 50-50, like you're at the state fair. Like there's funnel cake in the air. Like something's off. There's like deep fried pop tarts, yeah. Exactly. Deep fried butter, that's what I had when I was there. Yeah, so like Oklahoma's defense is elite enough
Starting point is 00:26:43 to win games. Like they're really, really unbelievably good. Their offense is just like pretty terrible. I don't necessarily know what the quarterback situation is. I think if they start that freshman, they're going to have a better chance. Like Jackson Ardell is just like. Michael Hawkins, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:56 He's not the guy. And like that's okay. Sometimes you just got to move on to your third quarterback, which that's their second, but it was more of a play on Michigan there or your seventh, who cares? But I would just say that like I do think Texas is going to win, but Red River is a game that like you just have to look at and just be like, oh, yeah, something's going to happen. I don't know what it is, but I'm going to enjoy watching it. It's going to be fun. Okay. Well, before we go, we've got a couple of minutes left. We need to talk about Ole Miss going on the road to LSU.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Ole Miss, have they really been tested by a great offense yet this season, Lucy? LSU has a pretty good offense. Like they're also very high. They're up there with Ohio State in terms of a lot of the offensive metrics. LSU's best defender is out for the season, Harold Perkins. So that's a huge bummer for them. But Ole Miss is a favorite in this game on the road
Starting point is 00:27:42 at one of the most difficult stadiums to play night games at LSU. So do you think LSU pulls up the upset here at home? Yeah, I actually think it's it's really possible with this game, just it being that game at Death Valley, like that's that's the cream of the crop. That's the the top college football venue in the top time slot. Like it's really hard to play. Ole Miss got it like turned around against South Carolina. I know South Carolina didn't put up much of a fight. I think like in Ole Miss's loss to Kentucky
Starting point is 00:28:10 they weren't losing to like any sort of prolific offense by any matter of fact. They were just kind of getting destroyed defensively. So like I don't know I'm sort of talking myself into Ole Miss right now because I don't think else use defense is like up to par. Passing defense is bad. EPA per pass is around 100th in FBS or something like that. You know what? I'm going to be vulnerable. I'm going to be honest. And I'm just going to say exactly what I know in my heart.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I got no idea if LSU's good or not. I have no clue. I have no context. I think it's good to be honest. Don't act like you know and then be like, yeah. Oh, okay. So I'm going to base if they're good on if they're good or not based off wins versus the USC's Southern Cal and South Carolina, who I also like, I don't know. Right. I'm with you on that. Speaking of USC, Penn State going to USC this weekend, they are favored by five points on the road. Like we said, it's going to be a long travel day
Starting point is 00:29:04 for the Nittany Lions. They got to take a bus to Harrisburg, fly to Southern Cal. It hasn't been great for other teams that have had to make those long road trips. Do you think USC wins at home? Kind of, yeah. Penn State is 5-0 and they're like the first team in like four straight years to start 5-0. And there's always a trend to that. They never finish 5-0. They never keep it going. So this feels sort of like the time things are going to go down. USC bouncing off a loss to Minnesota is just kind of tough, hard PJ Fleck pill to swallow. I just, I don't know, I feel like the vibes are saying USC is going to win this game.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I think it'll come down to like, can the Penn State big plays that we saw earlier in the year translate against a much improved USC defense? Yeah. Watch out for the Penn State lack of, or, or abundance of explosive plays on offense, but also Penn State's, interior D lineman, very good. And USC's offensive line didn't look very good last weekend against Minnesota. That might be something to watch out for. Lucy, before we go, South Carolina, Alabama,
Starting point is 00:30:12 Cal at undefeated number 22 in the country, Pitt. Anything else that you wanna, any other upsets you wanna call before we go? No. All right, well, I do wanna watch something that was upset, which was your tummy, because we're going to toss it to off-roading now. And little did you know, you had a stomach virus this whole time.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah, well, you can see, guess who gave it to me. We don't know. We don't know. Who in this video gave me the stomach virus? Tweet your guesses at us. Jessica Smetana, Lucy Rodin, here's off-roading. What does your shirt say? Tweet your guesses at us. Jessica Smetana, Lucy Rodin, here's off-roading. What does your shirt say?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Well, you know, she loved the cocks, but you know, go game cocks. Hi Dan, we are here in Columbia, South Carolina for the Ole Miss South Carolina game, and we're going to talk to all these growing men about how much they love Cox. Dan, this is one of my favorite college football traditions. That's, I don't actually believe it's a tradition. I think it's just like a happy little coincidence. The Columbia Farmers Market on Saturdays before game days. I don't know why we haven't figured out the Farmers Market football combo. Perfect, literally perfect. These SCZ schools always have so much tradition,
Starting point is 00:31:33 so much history, and they are just some of the most beautiful college campuses you'll ever see. So over here, we have this empty lot. Can't get anything like that elsewhere. A bunch of what looks to be abandoned cars and factory and warehouses Stadium actually pretty cool Over there. They're like trucks shipping trucks. That looks like a law office. I don't know I can't confidently say it could also be an accounting firm and this this is SEC country
Starting point is 00:32:01 Look at all these chickens So these are the Cockaboos Railroad cars. Is that the proper term? I don't know. So all these rich South Carolina fans buy these and tailgate in them. Are they beautiful to look at? Absolutely. Vibes?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Bad. Not good. I'm just gonna say it. I like to come some better. Vibes? Bad. Not good. I'm just gonna say it. I like to clump some better. So this is supposed to be a chicken. This is the head. Or this could be the tail, and this is the head.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Vice versa, I don't know. The chicken. I wanna go home. It's hot as f***. It's not fun. This is the least SEC school that we've been to out of all the SEC schools. Oklahoma, more SEC than this.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Right now we're into this tailgate, and I... We go on these trips with the intention of showing you what makes each of these schools special. And when it comes to what makes South Carolina special, not f***ing f***ing f***ing, they should call it Mid Carolina. The Mid Cocks.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Do you embrace the Cocks nickname? Oh, I absolutely love it. I mean, as a man, there's nothing better than a cop. The Cocks, that gives some energy. That gives some energy! Finally, some energy! Finally some energy! Who the f*** is Clemson?
Starting point is 00:33:29 I'm a Clemson fan. We're Clemson fans. C-L-E-F-S-O-E-T-S-G-E-O-4-N Spine Tigers, spine Tigers, spine Tigers, spine Tigers! USC, USC, USC, USC! I wish they had chosen Cox Commander as the name of the mascot. Yeah, I was like, why is he not voting for Cock Commander? How hard is it today?
Starting point is 00:33:53 Woo, it's about hot as Satan's balls out here, I'm gonna tell you that much. Do you know who Lane Kiffin is? Who kind of look like Lane Kiffin? Blue 42, blue 42. Judas Wells sucks. Juice Wells? You are going to have it tonight. How do you guys feel about Davos Sweeney?
Starting point is 00:34:12 The name that shall not be mentioned in Columbia, South Carolina. Davos Sweeney? He is the scum of the earth. I hope he shits himself with white shorts, baby. Beamer's down here. Sweeney's up here. Absolutely hate the man. Beamer's down here. Sweeney's up here. Absolutely hate the man.
Starting point is 00:34:25 ****. All right. You guys have a lot of anger in your hearts. Is it a requirement if you go to an SEC school or an SEC fan to wear this exact outfit? Khaki, polo, school logo. If you want to come and you want to hang out with me, you better have this on.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Like, I'm not joking. If I don't see a college shirt and a pair Of freaking khakis on you. It's not gonna happen Damn it, Shane! Are you f***ing serious? Dan, that was our trip to Columbia, South Carolina. Did I have a good time? I'm glad you asked. Not really.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Not particularly. No. Highlight of the trip was watching Alabama Lose on my phone. But I did tour here when I was going to college and I decided not to go. And I'm glad that I made that decision because I did not have fun today. But that's okay because next week we're going to Oregon. And you know what time it is? It's game time. Download the Game Time app and use code Lucy for $20 off your first order term supply.
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