The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Good Follow - Green Dildos, Meme Coins, Connecticut Sun Relocation Theories & More

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

This Week on Good Follow: Ros & Logan put on their tinfoil hats and try to get to the bottom of the craziness happening in the WNBA. Is cryptocurrency at the core of the dildo fiasco? Where are the Co...nnecticut Sun going to end up?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, what's up, everyone, welcome to Good Follow, presented by Draft Kings. I'm Roz Golden Weddy. That's my girl, Logan Hackett. Logan, how you doing, boo? I'm doing amazing. How are you? Girl, I am in Martha's Vineyard with my little sister, and we're on a sister's trip. I'm so jealous.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Yeah, I'm really excited. It sounds kind of like the trips that you take with your mom, like, except not international, but we're really out here. We have a little cottage and like we went grocery shopping. We're planning on cooking. We have, we're going to go, we're painting, we're going bike riding, you know, we're going to do yoga and meditation in the garden. Like it's that kind of like, eat, pray, love sister's trip.
Starting point is 00:00:58 I'm going to text me. sister and tell her she sucks. Like, I want to do that. That is not what that's supposed to inspire. She's big sis, I guess, huh? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She needs to be planning that stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. You know what? Maybe as little sis, you could surprise her. Maybe she's working so hard and doing so much in the real world that you as younger sis, you see that and you want to give her like a softer day or weekend somewhere. Yeah. Logan's like, no, excuse me, I'm the baby. Thank you. But we have an interesting show today, Logan. We do. We do. Hello, good follow fans. This is our first ever conspiracy episode. We kind of have, and I don't know if I'm going like stir crazy because I'm just like in a quiet area.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Like, you know, it's very low-key. All I have to do is just check out conspiracies and, like, investigate on the web, different, you know, ideas and things. But that's what today's show is revolving around different investigations, theories, conspiracies around some of the hottest, biggest topics in the WNBA right now. Let me take you through our menu for today's show. So the green dildo throwing. The saga continues. And what we're investigating today is the dildo throwing being fueled by cryptocurrency and meme coins?
Starting point is 00:02:36 We investigate. We explore. Okay. The Connecticut Sun, they're being sold, but to where? And now there's so many different theories and accusations and rumors being thrown around, leaked in different articles. Oh, yes, we are going to investigate that too. and y'all don't forget you can catch new episodes twice a week one on Tuesday one on Thursday and as
Starting point is 00:03:03 always thank y'all for all the love on our episodes and on our socials but I cannot wait for this episode ross and I know you are ready to get into it yes definitely let's go all right let's do it well I heard that you went down an insane rabbit hole I personally don't understand it but I really want you to enlighten us on it. So take us through your whole green dildo conspiracy. Yeah. So it's not mine. This is something that's been brought up by the WNBA community that's been trying to
Starting point is 00:03:35 figure out where are these green dildos coming from because it's now happened multiple times. And it's not funny. It's not funny anymore. And it's actually really kind of creepy and dangerous and like awful. So first, I have gone to. down a rabbit hole. Let me start off by saying allegedly. First and foremost, allegedly. Then also, I'm not an expert. This is not advice. But I did, you know, take a number of notes to present here and just
Starting point is 00:04:07 check out the green dildo thing. Like, this is not a small topic anymore. It's permeated that the national discussion. Huge publications are now covering it. It's so sensational. It's not surprising that they are. You're talking front office sports. You're talking. You're fucking cosmopolitan, like huge platforms. And obviously, this whole thing has gone viral on social media. So for me, in our last episode, I expressed like just how disappointing and awful, I think the whole thing is. In this episode, I'm just exploring the latest theories around the green dildo throwing and
Starting point is 00:04:44 that this is the work of a crypto mean coin group, a meme coin group. And I've heard from real WNBA fans, like them discussing on Twitter or threads or across platforms, one, feeling angry, feeling annoyed, and certainly feeling confused. Like, I've heard real WNBA fans saying, like, something's going on here. It has to do with mean coins or cryptocurrency, but they don't really understand, like, how this is possible. So what I did is did some research. And what I have found from what I've been looking at, there is actually some merit.
Starting point is 00:05:20 that like there is a cryptocurrency, a group, I won't call them a community, that is trading a meme coin based around like this type of activity. Now, whether or not they are actually the ones behind the throwing of green dildos, I'm not sure that that correlation can be guaranteed as true, but they certainly are taking public credit for it and like trying to take the clout for it. So I'm going to try and explain what I've found, shed some light, try to keep Keep it simple. Again, allegedly. Logan, you ready? I am so excited.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Enlightening, please. I should be out with my sister. Enjoying my... I'm talking about dildo coins instead. I should be out of my sister. Sunshine is outside. We should be like stretching and talking and like and having a picnic on our vacation. Instead I'm in here like in a rabbit hole, like completely lost in all of this.
Starting point is 00:06:19 But it is fast. It is interesting. All right. So we know for a fact that three dildos have made the court of WNBA games. Four have been found. There was a fourth one in New York that didn't make it to the court. And actually, funny enough, that was the New York Liberty Dallas Wings game. I was on the call for that game. I'm so glad it didn't make it to the court. Like, I certainly wouldn't have to want to be the broadcaster. Like, all the broadcasters that have had to talk their way through this commotion, like, that's not easy either. So I was just like, oh, thank God we didn't have to deal with that nonsense. But, three dildos, four found, and one player was hit by the dildo. And funny enough, it's Sophie Cunningham. And she literally was one of the players that last episode we pointed out that stepped up on Twitter and was like, yo, chill, you could hurt one of us. And so tongue in cheek, she kind of tweets again and she said, look, that didn't age well.
Starting point is 00:07:13 So what is a meme coin? Again, not an expert here, but I have been. curious enough in the crypto space that I kind of understand like conceptually what's happening here like a meme coin is a type of crypto that the easiest way to think about it is it's measuring attention okay so the more relevance or attention that the concept of this coin can gather the better it is for its holders to monetize um these meme coins which is different than like bitcoin right so like separate that concept like a meme coin um they're highly volatile and And like most people who play with them end up losing all their money.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's like gambling. It's like a casino, right? And so there was the original token that started off. But now there's a number of copycat green dildo type tokens. And they're all riding this wave. And what's crazy or scary or just fascinating about this, there are thousands of people holding these green dildo tokens. So this is not, I mean, it's not huge, but it's also not fringe.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Like there are like thousands of people who. who have said, I'm going to put money into this and see where it goes. Would this be similar to Dogecoin? Or is that a crypto? Doge coin is also a meme coin. Yeah, you are correct. Some meme coins have like made it so mainstream and have lasted the test of time that some people hold them and they become kind of like part of the culture as like an actual
Starting point is 00:08:44 crypto token with like use case. But most of them are just silly things that like come and go. fast as, you know, like, attention on these concepts happen. So, like, I would separate, like, whatever you, like, Bitcoin, in my head is not, like, similar to, like, what a meme coin would be, right? Like, because there's, you know, scarcity around Bitcoin. There's this concept that it, like, holds value. It's a store of a value.
Starting point is 00:09:09 But, ah, that is neither here nor there. I don't want to confuse the folks at home watching if they're not crypto folks. So, and again, I'm no expert, allegedly. And so what I also want to point out, too, is that this certainly doesn't represent the entire crypto community. Like, this is a group of people, like, they don't represent all of crypto. And I certainly know there's certainly amazing people in the crypto space that are building real things of actual value within the space. And so this is just unfortunate. And what we're investigating today is shameful.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Like, it's just, it sucks. All right. So the coin of this green dildo, one of the ways they've been able to gain attention is with the throwing of green dildos onto the courts of WNBA games. Now that it's happened three times and that people, there's now two arrests out for people who have been caught doing this. And they all have been really young, like a 23-year-old and 18-year-old, I don't know, kind of makes me feel like, They probably could be part of a crypto space. But who knows? Again, this group is taking credit, but we don't know if they're a part of that.
Starting point is 00:10:25 But I'd be really surprised to continue to see this happening at WNBA games because it's getting increasingly risky, right? Okay. So remember I told you, like, a lot of this I've been hearing murmuring from like real WNBA communities, real WNBA fans. They found this conversation that happened on spaces and screen recorded it. and like, take a listen. We kind of like, I'm really happy that like, like this seems like it's going to break the mainstream, right?
Starting point is 00:10:54 And then like we get to create the next wave of controversy because to me, like, I want to move away from being so disruptive, but we have to do this so that people know what the fuck we are and like what we're doing, right? And like you get to pitch the mission, you get a stage that, you know, you get to go and actually explain, and yo, this is what's up. This is the movement. Right. What? Logan, this is the mission.
Starting point is 00:11:26 This is the movement. Dildo throwing y'all? Y'all get very weird. And the way he's like completely serious about it as well. Yeah. Logan, the whole thing is absolutely crazy and mind-boggling. And just like, yeah, they, This is, they're dead serious.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And like, here's another side. Remember on the last episode of Goodfellow? I talked about just the increasing misinformation memes that keep circulating about the WNBA and like how it's, it's centered. I mean, it's founded in mockery that continues to surround the WNBA. A number of accounts, again, big meme accounts posted last night that the WNBA announced a no bag policy for games so that they could. could discourage dildo throwing.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And I haven't seen anything like that from the WNBA. But even me who's like tapped in. I was actually a little bit confused. I was like, oh, wait, did this happen? I don't know. But like, again, just so much misinformation. And it only encouraged more jokes because you certainly don't need a bag to smuggle a dildo into a game, if you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Exactly. Even the Atlanta one the first time it happened, they have a clear bag policy. So there's no way that they could have just had it in a clear bag. No, no, no, no, Logan. I'm saying that you're like, there's other ways besides a bag to smuggle a dildo. Okay, okay. So it only inspired more jokes and mockery at the expense of the W. So I'd like to just come back to the main theme after presenting my investigation results here.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And it's that, again, there's this overall disrespectful and mocking attitude to the, the, women of the WNBA. There's also an increasing number of groups that are making it confusing as you absorb the WNBA to know what is true, what is not. And again, headlines that are being created that are not at all about the game, not at all about basketball. And then I repeat, these are hardworking women giving everything, the best of the world in their craft.
Starting point is 00:13:38 It is no coincidence to me that this is happening while they are in a very public battle for pay equity, better wages, and a new, more favorable CBA. And, you know, whether or not they actually are, you know, the ones behind this or not, there are, there is a meme coin group and culture happening that is celebrating and mocking the WNBA players and the green dildo throwing and maybe might be behind it,
Starting point is 00:14:11 you know, that it's possible. And not only are they mocking them, but what's maybe more infuriating, they're monetizing that contempt and misogyny and making money off of it for all of the disdain that they hold for these women. So what I'm hoping is like most meme coins, I'm hoping that this whole thing quickly fades to zero. I think especially given the charges that people are picking up, like the last one, the most recent one that we saw in Phoenix, I think it was an attempt. attempt to throw it on the court. It didn't make the court, but it hit somebody who's with their nine-year-old niece. And so the charges being on top of that, like, you're pretty much being charged like an offender. Rightfully so in this situation, because it's a nine-year-old, but the situation is getting a lot more grave than we thought it ever would, but it's good.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, for sure. It's such a stupid way to pick up, like, charges around sexual misconduct in public places, you know? Um, and the, the charges we've seen come forth are for, from, against two very young men and a 23-year-old, an 18-year-old. So, you know, not high in common sense and maybe easily manipulated. But overall, like, I think that the punishment should be loud because it's a horrible thing for our society to have these, to be diminishing the efforts of women in this way and potentially dangerous, too, to their physical safety on the court. Oh, absolutely. And, y'all, coming up, we are actually going to make a little transition. We're still going to keep our tinfoil hats on, but we are breaking down the possible sunsail to Boston.
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Starting point is 00:17:42 moving pieces, and I kind of want to break it down for y'all. So earlier this week, it was announced that Celtics Minority Owner, Steve Pigluka, has put in a bid to buy the Sun for $325 million and then contribute $100 million to a new practice facility. All of this would move them to Boston by 2027. And honestly, when it came out, it seemed like a pretty done deal. But fast forward to last night, former box owner, Mark Glasbury reportedly offered $300 million to move the team to Hartford, which is pretty much down the street from where they are right now. Didn't really makes sense. And with those two, the W made a statement saying, A, relocation has to go through the league and board of governors. So they pretty much have to sign off on the final one. And then
Starting point is 00:18:21 B, neither Hartford or Boston submitted for expansion. So they're more inclined to deny their request and allocate the son to someone who has requested an expansion franchise. Now, with all that said, there is a group that is led by the Houston Rockets owner. Side note, love that these are all NBA franchises. Tomin Fartita. So does Kathy. Death. Right? Pocket to her deep and willing to pay $450 million to move the son back to Houston. Now, Houston comments were an absolutely iconic franchise.
Starting point is 00:18:53 They kicked off the league going on a 4P and then very tragically dissolved in 2008. Personally, I'm a little biased. I would kind of love to see them back there. But with all this information coming out, Roz, how do you sort through the drama and every moving piece that's going on? Yeah. There actually is quite a lot going. on and it can be confusing reading all of these like new reports that come out daily it seems i mean also you have to wonder who's leaking this information which side wants us to know that this is
Starting point is 00:19:22 happening but um as of the day of the recording here there's a new article and new reporting out from the sports business journal and i was reading through it and basically my takeaway from everything we're hearing is one starts with the mohegan tribe right they have multiple offers over 300 million they brought this team in 2003 for $10 million. So first of all, salute to them for being early investors,
Starting point is 00:19:48 having a vision, being believers and builders of this league in women's basketball, and after 20 plus years, they're ready to cash out. And it's frustrating, understandably so, that it seems they don't have
Starting point is 00:19:58 the agency to sell when or to who they want to, and it seems like the league from according to reports are being resistant or discouraging or even blocking certain offers. And it's based a lot on
Starting point is 00:20:12 technicalities and a lot on potentially optimizing the biggest bag possible for the league. All right. So Logan, you kind of broke it down, but just to summarize in a clear way, we know the Pegluca group, according to reports, bid $325 million to buy the team. That money would go to the Mohhegan tribe, then plus another $100 million to build a facility. So so far in that reports, we didn't hear any money going to the WNBA, the league. There's a Lazary group, formerly with the Milwaukee Bucks group, they have a bid in for $300 million, that money would go to the tribe and to keep the team in Connecticut and Hartford. Allegedly, according to reports, the W is saying that both of these groups did not participate in the most recent expansion submissions like the other teams did.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And in response to that, there is a lot of people who are like, why would either of those groups apply for an expansion? it's not technically an expansion. Like the Lazary group, the group that wants to keep it in Hartford, Connecticut, not only is that not an expansion. It's also not a relocation. It's literally in the same state, in the same place. It's just a trade of ownership and sale.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And then for Pags' group, the group that wants to move it to Boston, that's not an expansion either. That's a team that already exists, and they would want to just move it. So potentially, if anything, there might be a relocation charge, but check out why that still may not work in the Boston group's favor.
Starting point is 00:21:43 There's another group. And remember, you know, the league has spoken. We've heard Kathy speak favorably, even though Houston didn't get in on this latest group of expansion cities. Remember, she called them out and said, like, you know, said some good things about them that it was possible they'd get in the mix. And so there's the Fertita Houston Rockets group who are not only willing to pay to $300 million to the tribe to buy the team, according to reports and this sports business journal article, it seems like there's an undisclosed relocation fee that they would pay, which would be somewhere between $100 and $150 million.
Starting point is 00:22:16 So basically to cut the line and get in on a team right now, they'd have to pay about $450 million. So a half billion dollars suddenly a WNBA team is worth. So we're raising valuations too. Now remember, the league makes $250 million on the expansion team. Remember, like all those teams that just came in, they're paying about $250 million, and that's a fee to the league to make an expansion.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Allegedly, according to reports, a relocation fee, the league might be asking somewhere from 100 to 150 million. So according to reports, you see me trying to take care of business there, but according to reports, it kind of seems like the league feels that they could get a relocation fee for the Sun team to Houston and later get an expansion fee for, putting a new team in Boston later. So the league feels they can get both.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Why settle for one? You can get a relocation fee right now and then later hit up Boston for that expansion fee. And so the negative side of that is kind of for fans in some ways in the sense like it's very possible that Connecticut loses a team and doesn't have a team for many years. And that sucks for Connecticut fans. It's like this certainly doesn't keep the fans
Starting point is 00:23:35 at the front of mind here and Connecticut fans have long been a dedicated fan base fertile grounds for women's basketball, devoted, supportive and it would be punishing them and they may have to wait years for the next opportunity to put a new team in Connecticut when that rolls around.
Starting point is 00:23:53 It also feels kind of like it sucks for the Mohegan tribe as they don't have full agency right now after putting in so much time with the league and this team. But the last thing I'll pose is this for people who are, you know, calling it greed on the behalf of the league. Impact site located. Entering spacecraft.
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Starting point is 00:24:41 What did I say? Nice guys don't fit, nice guys finish last? Like, the league is trying to optimize putting the most money in the pocket of the league. And also at the same time, it raises, you know, valuation prices of some of these teams. It's certainly shrewd. This is money talk. This is cloth talk. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:57 This is big bully style. And I see the league getting to the bag. It's not perfect. But I'm not sure. it's all bad. I don't know enough, though. But what do you think, Logan? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I think it's approaching it from a business side too where that's not really what a lot of fans are used to seeing, especially because we haven't had this much movement in past years, like within the past 10 years other than the Valky's coming and the other expansion teams. When have you seen it actually play out in real time? And as you said, it is about the money. They're trying to make money moves and the valuation of everything is growing year after year.
Starting point is 00:25:32 So might as well go for the biggest. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure much brighter minds than mine are solving these issues, but there's so much happening and so much kind of at stake right now. So I guess we'll just keep learning how it plays out. But that's going to do it for our conspiracy episode, y'all. We are out of time. We are out of time. No, it was fun. It was fun. I'm going to take a shower and resume being a normal person on vacation in the real world and go spend some time with my sister. But Logan, it was great hanging with you. you as always enjoy martha's binyard i'm so jealous thank you and to all of you watching thank you um good follows presented by draft kings thanks for pulling up subscribe follow like comment all the things and we'll catch you next week bye y'all

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