The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GOOD FOLLOW - New York Liberty Win 2024 Championship, 2025 WNBA Look Ahead + NWSL & More
Episode Date: October 25, 2024This week on Good Follow: Megan, Logan, and Ros react to New York Liberty winning their first championship in franchise history, discuss Cheryl Reeve’s post-game comments, and discuss whether the Li...berty can repeat or not. Then, they look ahead to the 2025 season with a new game. Finally, Megan shares her NWSL DraftKings picks of the week, and Logan shares this week’s Good Follow. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Megan Reyes. Joining me are Logan Hackett
and our favorite WNBA analyst, Roz Golden-Widday. After 28 years, the New York Liberty won their
first championship in franchise history.
Let's start the show by taking a look at the moment they did it.
Carlton Lomson in, taken away by Phoebus.
Off to Stewart!
28 years in the making!
The New York Liberty are WNBA champions!
The original franchise.
So the moment this happened, I was actually watching
on my phone outside my hotel waiting for a door dash.
So I got to experience it on my phone on YouTube TV.
But Roz, you have been by the Liberty side all season long
and you're also Queens born and raised.
So what was it like for you being there and watching them lift the trophy?
You know, I immediately felt the enormity of the moment.
And I think the context of, you know, growing up in New York City,
my mother not being an athlete herself, just being a woman
who wanted her daughters to see female empowerment and opportunities
through sports, you know,
taking me to a WNBA game in New York and having that exposure and being a fan growing up,
seeing how long it took, seeing the streamers coming down from the ceiling. You know, I
happened to be on the court. I was, you know, in the tunnel waiting for the game to end
and running out to the court. No matter who won, I was coming out there.
And I happened to go straight into the direction
of Teresa Weatherspoon hugging and crying with Swin Cash.
And she was also there with Angel Reese.
And I was taking that video for our group
and I'm watching Spoon and it really hits you,
the history of this franchise,
the drought of not winning for you know, for so long,
being one of the original franchises
in the history of the WNBA,
and then finally breaking through here,
I did feel the enormity of it, you know,
what it meant not only for this Liberty team,
but for the franchise, what it means for the WNBA.
And during a time when everything is just so amplified
by the excitement and attention on women's sports overall,
it was huge.
It was big.
It was so awesome.
Hearing you about it makes me like a little emotional.
Right?
Well, let's talk about the game.
So in a game where Sabrina went only one for 19
with five points
and Stewie went four for 15, I think the stat was the team overall were two for 23 from three.
How did the Liberty pull the game off?
Yeah, you know, it's funny, I'm watching the game and at one point
down the stretch, I'm looking at a lineup and it's guardless.
There's no guards on the court.
And I'm speaking with, you know, fellow broadcasters and colleagues and friends.
And I think the lineup was Stewie,
Leo, Niara.
I mean, I'm like I'm blanking right now, but the whole thing was all bigs
and no guards.
And I'm like, well, it makes sense. Nobody's hitting threes.
I guess they were like, let's just go with size, you know?
And then also to think about the contributions that,
you know, bench players were making,
reserve players were making.
This was a game where what shined for the Liberty
was organizational success, was scouting success,
was putting together, coming off of the loss
against the Aces last season and coming putting together a
strategy of what did that returning core group of starters
need surrounding them to get them over the hump and it was
the heroics of Niyara Sabali.
It was the heroics of Leonie Phoebus and I thought huge minutes
Kayla Thornton and and and other players who just like
throughout the course of this heavyweight battle
in the finals stepped up.
So I think depth shined and look for,
you know, you look at Sabrina Onescu,
she'll get flack for going 115.
She still had like nine or eight assists and rebounds.
She had barely any turn one or two turnovers
against the very physical
and hard defense and in the links, you know, your shot may not be going down,
but you still need to be solid up here and be a floor general for your team.
And same thing for Stewie came up with big free throws.
So it was a great, gritty team win.
What do you think?
I think that's the thing about box scores.
They don't always tell the full storyline.
But I actually, Logan, I want to get your thoughts on the other side of the ball.
So Roz told us what went well for New York.
I would love to know your reactions on what didn't go so great for Minnesota.
Oh, I think especially coming down the stretch when they lost that lead,
I mean, they had a pretty good lead.
I remember watching at one point and I'm like,
oh, I had a parlay going for an NFL game and I was looking like
I can possibly go check on that. So I think honestly, all that, sure, there's the controversy
about the calls and everything, but at the end of the day, they were up, they were on the
Liberty's home court. They kind of had it in their hands and it didn't really work out for them.
Also, Alana Smith, if you're watching this, I hope you're okay. She was doing well, but when they come
down to injuries,
I mean, their depth was not as deep
and performing as much as the Liberty's was.
If you would have told me that the Liberty
would not have won that championship without Nyara Saboli,
like literally two weeks ago,
when we were having the conversation about death,
I'd be like, oh, well,
I don't know if that's actually gonna happen.
But seeing her come on and seeing the confidence
that Sandy had in her lineup to put on a lineup that she's never even practiced with before
and rely on people like Nyora, who is technically her second year in the league, that's really
saying something. And I don't think that the Minnesota really had, I don't think Minnesota
really had that depth down the stretch.
And I do want to follow up on your great points about depth.
And earlier, what I was saying about the big lineup,
I have my scribble notes from the game.
So the lineup, there's actually, as during the game,
I take a lot of notes on old school, I handwrite things
and it's like, guardless lineup of an exclamation point.
And it's literally Jean-Claude Jones, Leone Fiebes,
Kayla Thornton, Niara Saboli, and Stewie was on the court.
And we like, there were things we never saw before, you know?
But that's what it takes sometimes to win a championship,
you know, and that's the luxury the Liberty have.
The fact that coach Sandy Brandello
trusted her depth enough to go to them.
The season's on the line, baby.
There's nothing more than this. And she trusted her depth enough to go to them. The season's on the line, baby.
There's nothing more than this.
And she trusted her depth.
A lot of times guys, when it's playoffs,
men's, women's basketball, NBA, WNBA, college ball,
and the pressure is high, coaches shorten that leash.
Coaches, oh my goodness, all of a sudden
that seventh player off the bench don't even see the court.
So it's actually really says a lot about coach Sandy and her trust of this team, the development
of the entire roster over the course of the season that with for all the marbles, she
was like, we're going to give you a shot and, and also that those players were ready.
Well, I love this. I love your thoughts on on this topic and I want to continue on a thought that Logan
you actually started with was the controversial call.
And as we know, Lynx head coach Cheryl Reeve had her own theory of why the Liberty won.
Let's take a look at what she had to say.
I know all the headlines will be Reeve cries foul.
Bring it on.
Right.
Bring it on because it was stolen from us.
Bring it on.
Well, we talked about it, you know,
we know we could have done some things, right?
But you shouldn't have to overcome to that extent.
This ain't that hard.
Efficiating it, it's not that hard.
I tell these guys, you know,
for whatever reason it didn't work out, right?
It just doesn't feel right that you lose a series with that level of discrepancy, you know, for whatever reason it didn't work out, right? It just doesn't feel right that you lose
a series with that level of discrepancy, you know? Well, as we know, losing a championship and having
a post-game press conference immediately after the the emotions are high. And so I would love to know
from both of you, I'll start with you, Logan, what are your thoughts on what Cheryl had to say?
I completely understand, especially in the moment. I mean, you pushed it to game five.
You had the lead.
And the way that it ended for it to go to overtime wasn't ideal.
I mean, that would be the first thing that I would be mad at.
The whole team would be mad at, honestly.
So I get it in that sense.
But at the same time, as I just said,
you had the whole five games.
You had the whole game.
There was a reason why it wasn't that you didn't win at the end of it.
So maybe she cooled off and was able to kind of see
the, I guess, reality of the situation in the end of it.
But I do understand where her emotions and probably the team's
emotions came from in that moment.
Before we go ahead and look at the actual call, Rouse,
what are your thoughts on Cheryl's comments?
Yeah, I think it's understandable immediately
after the game and especially for such a hard fought battle
and such an emotional one to react
and feel that much emotion around it.
Like full stop, I think either side,
we've heard both coaches within this series complain
publicly to the media about the
reps and the foul calls. But what that also says to me is like, Hey, it went in
favor of one team or another throughout the series. There were certainly things
that the links got, you know, got a favorable favorable whistle or bounce on.
Um, and I think there is a sportsmanship aspect of this
that I do understand people pushing back at coach.
And especially after the game, I'm kind of like,
all right, everybody's got their emotions.
This is sports.
But to continue to carry on well after the game,
whether it's through social media or in closeout interviews,
I think now that's where it's,
you've got to be able to be professional
and give credit. Because it was a five game series. You know, if we even look at game
five, the game went to overtime. There were many, there were a few players who perhaps
came out hot for the Lynx in the first half and in the second half were quiet or struggled
through the game. So like there are things that you could look at as the links and say,
hey, we weren't that great.
Or, you know, there were games where you gave up 26 points on 20 turnovers.
Or you could look at the Liberty who made mistakes all through the series.
This is sports.
You could look at the Liberty who, you know, star players
and have a good shooting night in Game 5, but role players played out of their mind.
X factors are what changes series.
So, you know, I think for sports fans,
it's what makes it interesting.
For the conspiracy theorists, you know,
they love that on Twitter.
And I think, you know, look, a W is a W is a W.
A win is a win is a win.
And it was fitting for this heavyweight battle
where both teams were awesome,
that the win was gritty and hard and scrappy
and came down to like possessions.
Okay, well, let's take a look at the call
that led to Cheryl Reeves saying the championship was stolen. Alright, so how goes the links believe this was not a foul and a lot of people also pointed
out that Stewie may have traveled.
So was this a foul or should the travel have been called?
I don't know much about basketball rules.
I mean, I know a clear foul when I see one
and I cannot see one there.
But I will say that when I was watching it back,
when people started calling out Stewie's travel,
I was like, whoa, that is very apparent.
But Roz, what do you think?
Cause you played, you know the game so much better than me.
Yeah, you know what's so crazy is again,
like where I was during this part of the game,
like literally I'm getting ready to get on the court regardless of, you know, who wins
and we're going to cover the championship.
So what I can see from under the tunnel is the jumbotron and like pieces of heads on
the court.
But I actually, what I remember from the moment was like,
just that the foul happened.
And then that Stewie was on the free throw line again.
And for me, what I was thinking, like as a,
as a basketball player was just like, boy, I hope she,
you know, I, I would, it would be awful if she missed
the free throws again and like had to feel that,
that horrible feeling, you know?
So I was like, oh gosh, oh gosh.
I was just like, hopeful that Stewie would be able
to step up, and she did and knocked them down.
She was ready to redeem herself.
That's kind of the viewpoint I had.
And then I was covering the championship at that point,
the celebrations, the locker rooms, the champagne.
So by the time, and then I, as a New Yorker,
went out with my friends to celebrate as well.
So it wasn't until the very next day
that I actually like scrolled through Twitter and threads.
And I was like, oh, it was drama.
I was like, oh, LeBron tweeted?
I was like, oh, Isaiah Thomas has smoked?
Like everybody was coming at conspiracy around this.
And I was like, it was like crazy
to see how much drama there was.
But I'll say this.
I think the foul, I think there was a bump,
but if you're looking at the hand,
you might be like, oh, you know, it's a tough call.
I hate any game where the refs are a part of, you know,
such a huge historical moment.
But I will say in watching the replay,
for whatever reason, that clip does look like
there was foot motion in the play before. But again, you're talking about one play over the course of a five game series
that went to overtime. It's hard to make it just about that one moment because it's really not.
Well, coming up after the break, we look ahead to the 2025 WNBA season. We'll be right back.
Welcome back into good follow. Before we shift our focus to 2025, Roz caught up with WNBA
Commissioner Kathy Engelbert after game five. Let's see what she had to say about this season
and the WNBA finals.
It's going to be a historic season when we get everything done and a season to remember.
We're going to be looking back in 10 years saying this was the turning point for just
not the WNBA women's sports. So, amazing season, amazing WNBA finals.
Both teams deserve to win two overtimes in the finals
and game five, the deciding game, amazing.
Amazing!
I love the excitement, brother.
Well, is the commissioner right that this season will not only be the turning point
for the W, but women's sports as a whole?
Absolutely.
If you thought the W had drama this season, you should definitely look at other leagues
because there's so much drama and chaos, especially when it comes down to playoffs.
I mean, the NWSL right now, we thought we knew it was going one direction and now it's
like completely shifting and the past few years have been
Very dramatic. So I think it's a turning point for literally everything not only because of the play
But also the players and how they're coming up and how they're being recognized more in like pop culture and social media
So yeah
Well, I think it even says a lot having like what you said Roz when you're having players like LeBron and Isaiah Thomas and all these big athletes and celebrities and people
chiming in on the drama and talking about it on Twitter and threads like
this isn't a moment. Women's sports are here.
Yeah. And I and I also think the WNBA this season
was record breaking.
Right. Ratingattering, had star power and compelling storylines
that got attention that the league has never seen before.
And what's important to me is that the product
lived up to all of that hype.
The product was excellent.
The players, the rookies led by Caitlin Clark,
led by Angel Reese, They had historic rookie seasons.
You know, the actual playoffs and products themselves
were thrilling, captivating, compelling.
All-Star Weekend, what a great all-star game
the WNBA put on.
You know, the counterparts at the MNBA,
they need to work on that, you know?
Like, how exciting was this finals
that went all five games, nail biters,
huge shots, celebrity sidelines,
and then finally goes down to an overtime
and was captivating.
Superstars emerging, fresh blood in the Minnesota Lynx,
Nafisa Collier is one of the best players in the world now.
And it's thrilling.
And so I think this is just the beginning.
I think that you can double down on this.
And I think next season, the WNBA and media partners and people covering women's basketball
will be much better prepared.
I think this season was awesome.
And a lot of us, a lot of people were caught off guard, caught flat-footed, had some faux
paws, had some miscues, you know, uncomfortable moments. And I expect next season
will be, you know, more hopefully smoother sailing as well.
Well, to your point, Rod's, in my opinion, men's sports could never write the storylines that
women's sports just organically have. They just can't. Like, like you said, this series,
the MNBA couldn't do it if they wanted to.
You want to know why?
I do.
Because women.
Exactly.
It's all it really comes down to, it's inherent.
Who does it better?
Oh, and I mean, even like fashion and league fits
and getting to know the personalities and who these
people are and, and who these players are. It's just fascinating, you know, not only because
it's women, but because all of the players in the WNBA are so diverse. There's so many different
kinds of expressions of femininity and body types and stories. And, and I think that's also a really compelling
and unique part of the WNBA.
You know, the fact that these are highly visible,
highly competitive and highly diverse, a group of players.
And then at the same time, they also feel very relatable.
And I think that's what makes it like,
yet another reason it's such an attractive product.
And they date each other, so there's drama.
Yeah, yeah.
And there's drama that way too.
Let's move on to our next look ahead for 2025.
The Liberty have three unrestricted free agents
in Brianna Stewart, Courtney Vandersloot,
and Kennedy Burke.
Now that they finally have their championship,
I got a way too early question for you.
Can the Liberty repeat?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think they can.
I feel like Stewie's not gonna go anywhere.
Like, I feel like she resigned with them,
watched her go somewhere and I eat my words.
But even with the group that they have now,
if Stewie leaves, they're gonna get somebody
just as big, I feel.
So I think they could definitely repeat
and everybody might be trying to chase what they have now. going to get somebody just as big, I feel. So I think they could definitely repeat and
everybody might be trying to chase what they have now.
Yeah, I think, I think this is a team that is built to run it back. This is what the
staff, the players, you know, echoed immediately after winning. And I expect Stewie is going
to be back with the Liberty. You know, where there could be some whispers and changes
might be around Courtney Vandersloot,
who now has her second championship
and has seen her role diminished
with the Liberty a little bit.
Perhaps next season might not want to do that
and may look elsewhere.
And actually she's got a big time contract
that could open up a lot of space
for another type of player to come into the Liberty.
There's a chance the Liberty get even better. And, you know, and I think
that improvement within returners, you know, could who could fill a spot like that. There
have been names like Jalen Sherrod, who, you know, made impact in her minutes into the
game. But I think this Liberty team has room for a lot of improvement.
That's crazy.
And I don't even think they're as good as they can be.
So I'm excited.
I think next season could be big for them.
Well, after losing in the finals last season,
the Liberty were out on a revenge tour that, as we know, ended in a title.
So with the Lynx feeling like they might have been slighted
and that their championship was stolen, are they the team to fear next season?
I feel like the Lynx, yes,
because they're coming back with such a vengeance,
especially if they're like,
oh yeah, the finals were stolen from us
and that's how they are still feeling.
They're bringing that in,
wanting to run it back to the finals and win it their way
rather than it being stolen.
So yes, they are to be feared, but I think the ultimate team to fear is still the Liberty.
Yeah, and I think it'll be a different mindset for the links next season, too.
I think the links are good.
I think it's they're right there with the Liberty again,
but the mindset is different in that one.
They expect to be there next season.
I think there was a journey to understanding what they could be this year.
And next season, I think there's like this concept of like,
all right, revenge tour, right?
And I also think they'll also be hunted differently.
I don't think they'll catch it.
They won't catch anyone by surprise.
And that's a different mindset too.
So for me, the top two teams next season
will be the Liberty and the Lynx.
And I also expect the Aces to be right back at the top next season, too.
I don't know if I'm jumping the gun there. I was actually going to ask your thoughts on where Vegas falls in this.
So that's perfect.
Yeah, I think like for me, the teams I'm looking at next year
at the top are Liberty, Lynx and Aces.
And I think arrested healthy Aces
with a retooled supporting cast,
it's gonna be very good.
Guys, they were really good this year
and they weren't anywhere near what they needed to be.
They still played in the semi-final.
So that's gonna be key.
And I think for me,
the team that could make the biggest jump into Contender
might be the Fever.
Coming up, we continue our look ahead to the 2025 season Like for me, the team that could make the biggest jump into Contender might be the Fever.
Coming up, we continue our look ahead to the 2025 season with a new game called Reboot,
Reload, or Rerun.
We'll be right back. Welcome back into Good Follow. Now let's look ahead to 2025 with a new game called Reboot,
Reload, Rerun. We love our games here and in this game I will tee up a team and our job
is to determine what they should do next. Should they blow the whole thing up and reboot their team,
make some big moves this off season and reload,
or do they stay the course and rerun with what they've got?
And we don't have to all agree this time.
So you two ready?
Yep. Ready.
Okay. I think we're going to do this good this time.
Our last two go arounds like games
haven't been our strongest, but this one is on our side.
Let's start with the Las Vegas Aces who finished second in the Western Conference.
The Aces' quest for a three-peat came to an end this year in a game four semifinals lost to the
Liberty. They went 12-8 in conference play and 27-13 overall with the help of MVP Asia Wilson.
Should the Aces reboot, reload, or rerun?
I'm in between reload and rerun. I think a small reload.
In what way? If they couldn't repeat with the team
that they have and the team that they got the first two with pretty much, then I think we need
some changes. For me, I think it's like a mini reload on the supporting cast.
I mean, we're rerunning the core four group, the Asia, Chelsea, Kelsey, and Jackie.
But, you know, this is a group that needs more size, needs more rebounding, needs better defense, needs better health.
And I think that with that kind of retooling of the supporting
cast, they'll be right back there fighting for a championship again,
just like they did this season, but they'll be a top team for it.
Any other thoughts from you, Logan?
I mean, Roz kind of touched on it, but depth was an issue for them this season.
Yeah, that was going to be my first answer is they need to work on depth, especially
because we've been seeing teams who like their bench players are really coming in clutch.
And I feel like they rely on their core so much that the others are really up there on
the same level. So I'd like to see that happen. And if they once they get depth, I think they
will definitely be running it back.
And look, the acces have been historically not deep
for the past few seasons now,
and they've been able to overcome that.
But the rest of the league is getting better.
And the teams know what to do against them at this point.
I think it's time to re-up and look at the success.
I'll use an example.
The New York Liberty had coming off of their loss
last season in the WNBA finals to the Aces,
what did GM Jonathan Cole do?
Retooled the roster to support that core group.
And that bench, that second unit,
the Niara Sabalis, the Leoni Thebishes
were huge in helping the Liberty get over the hump
and win a championship this season.
If they can pull that off in the Aces this off season
and find the right
pieces that make sense, they're right back there. I mean, you know, this is it's and as long as that
core group gets the proper healing and rest that they need because, you know, Chelsea was unhealthy.
And I think there have been players on that team that went through a lot, not only on the court,
but off the court. And, you know, this would be a really important off season to just,
gather yourself and come back ready to go. Well, let's move on to the Eastern Conference. We have the Indiana Fever. The Fever took
third in conference play going 11 and nine and 2020 overall and made the playoffs for
the first time since 2016. Current Rookie of the Year, Caitlin Clark led the team with
nineteen point two points per game and Aliyah Boston leads and blocks.
I'm sorry, and Aliyah Boston led in blocks and rebounds.
So should the fever reboot, reload or rerun?
Ross, what do you think of the sun?
I mean, I like that young core group rerunning that back.
They've got something really special in Aliyah Boston and Caitlin Clark.
And the two of them together looked really great
by the end of the season.
They found their rhythm and individually,
they were excellent.
Obviously you run everything back with Caitlin Clark.
She was excellent.
That second half of the season in particular
was explosive, historic.
Her entire season was, you know,
we'll have to see what Kelsey Mitchell does,
but that's a huge key
and having her back. I think for the team overall, though, they could use some reinforcements
inside, helping with size, helping with rebounding and helping defensively. So I guess the answer
is they are much like the aces. I think they have a core that works. You reload a mini
reload in strategic positions, but I think they have a core that works. You reload a mini reload in strategic positions.
But I think they got a core that is going to be one of the best in the WNBA
in these years to come. We're looking at the new.
This is that next generation.
I think they need a bit of a little bit more of a bigger reload,
just building around those players, though.
But as you said, like once they can get the whole team around them and them playing off of Caitlyn and Aliyah,
potentially Kelsey, then yeah, they're definitely going to have a shot, especially with Caitlyn
driving that car.
Well, like you said, Roz, for everyone, key free agent is Kelsey Mitchell. So we'll see
what Indiana does there with them. But we're going with a mini to major reload. But now let's look at a team in the middle of the
pack this year, the Phoenix Mercury. Ten and ten in conference play 19 and 21 overall this year
under head coach Nate Tibbitts, finishing fourth in their division and a potential
retirement of Diana Taurasi should the Mercury reboot, reload or rerun.
I'm going with reboot to be honest.
I think they tried to have too many stars, offensive stars,
the people that are going to go get the points on their team this year.
But the way that they're working together, it's just not working for the team.
It wasn't really working on defense and obviously it wasn't getting it done.
So as much as I like them all together, I think they maybe tried to do a bit too much.
I'm not too sure because
when you look at other super teams, you still have big names, but they all play different
roles and they feel like a lot of these players were kind of playing similar roles. So yeah,
reboot.
Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, well, we have to wait and hear from Diana Tarasi and the
franchise is patiently waiting as well. I mean, her decision changes everything, you
know, regardless of she stays or goes.
But if Diana Tarassi does retire, you are immediately in a reboot. If you didn't know,
if Diana Tarassi says I'm done, DT, I'm walking away from the game, whatever franchise she
was on is rebooting because, you know, now you're talking about culturally stepping into
a new era, into a new identity, into a chance to really think about
what does the Mercury look like moving forward?
And it gives you the room to make a new roster,
to try new things.
You have Coach Tibbitts, who's a brand new coach.
Now he can really perhaps build out a vision
alongside the GM and Nick, your
end and really build out what they want to do for the
franchise moving forward.
You know, much like if you remember Kobe with the Lakers at
the end, Diana Tarassi, very similar in the sense that they
have earned the opportunity here to take their time on their
decision.
They put butts in seats.
They are the franchise.
They are the goats.
They are greatest of all time type players.
And at the end though, and I say this,
the words I softly hear,
in some ways it holds the franchise hostage
on their way out in the sense of like,
it's hard to move forward until you make room
for what your future identity and vision is
with them moving out.
So this is a really key moment in franchise history
for the Phoenix Mercury.
And it really rests on what Diana Taurasi decides.
Well, other than the potential of retirement
of Diana Taurasi, another key free agent to look out for
is Brittany Greiner when we're looking at the Mercury.
But let's move on to another team.
We'll look at someone who finished middle of the range
and that's the Seattle Storm.
They took third in the Western Conference
going 13 and seven and 25 and 15 overall
with Jewel Lloyd leading in points per game at 19.7.
Let's also not forget the Storm had Skyler Diggins-Smith,
Ezeemag Begore, and Nneka Umagay.
Should the storm reboot, reload, or rerun?
Oh my gosh.
I think I'm going to go with reload on this one.
Yeah, maybe like another mini reload to build around once again that core that they had
last year.
I mean, their record, I'm sorry, can you say their record again?
25 and 30?
They were 25 and 15 overall.
25 and 50.
For some reason in my head, it doesn't seem like that.
It seemed like they had a bit worse of a season, especially
because before him, we were talking about them kind
of competing with the Liberty and the Aces up there.
And that's not really what we saw from them.
So yeah, I think a reload would,
they would really benefit from that.
Yeah, and I think so too.
I think one, we have to see what Nneka Agumike,
where she's gonna end up, that's huge.
And whether she's there anywhere Nneka is,
that team is immediately better.
She's had all WNBA season,
one of the best seasons of her career,
but I think it flew under the radar because of the kind of middle success that the Seattle storm did with Gabby Williams every season.
It's kind of hard to know. Is she going to be available, you know, in the US or not? Is she going to want to play or can she, you know, I think, Jewel Lloyd, some hard questions
need to be presented in that she hasn't had
an efficient season this season for sure.
And she's their franchise or she's one of the players
they're looking to to build around.
She must have a better season next year.
It can't carry on like this.
So there's pressure there. I think
Skylar Diggins-Smith will bust out next season. She really used that Olympic break and bust out
in the second half of this season. And we saw like, once she got her lungs and legs and conditioning
under her, she was so much improved. So I think like next year, there'll be a lot of growth for this team.
But I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some some movement.
I wouldn't be surprised at all.
And I wouldn't be mad at a at a at a mini reboot, a mini reboot.
All right for our last team, you all know, I'm a California girl.
So let's look at the Los Angeles Sparks.
The Sparks were last in the conference going 8 and 32 overall,
which was the
worst season in franchise history. They also fired head coach Kurt Miller and number two
overall pick Cameron Brink was out most of the season with a torn ACL. Should the Sparks
reboot, reload, or rerun? And for context, two of their key free agents are Kia Nurse
and Ari McDonald. Reboot it. That's all I have to say. Keep some players like you can in there.
She deserves to play as she was drafted because she didn't get to play much
last year. Reboot.
I want to see a completely different team, honestly.
Yeah. And I think, you know, the core that you have to build around
is really exciting.
Like the supporting cast, you can you can plug and plug them in.
But again, this is one of those teams
where the future is bright.
Cameron Brink, hopefully she comes back
in a full, healthy, and also fast manner
that allows her to be back for the season,
and hopefully no complications.
And Rekia Jackson had an incredible rookie season.
And so you've got this great core of talent,
of youthful talent.
Don't forget, the Sparks might end up with the top draft pick
because they were so poor.
What if Paige Becker is in LA?
All of a sudden, you've got this really incredibly talented
power-packed, star power-packed crew in LA.
I mean, the potential is huge.
And so I think this is really where your GM shines
and putting the right veteran pieces around this group
and an original historic legacy franchise in the Sparks
has all the potential to be great.
So I'm excited.
All right, we're voting full reboot,
which I think if I might have been our first full reboot of the game.
But I'm with both of you on all of your answers.
Cosine, 100 percent.
But that's it for our game of reboot,
reload, or rerun.
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and Logan shares her latest good follow.
We'll be right back.
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The NWSL regular season comes to a close and the Houston Dash are set to take on Bay FC
at home.
Bay FC secured three crucial points with a 1-0 win against NC Courage thanks to a late
goal from Abbey Dahlkember, keeping Bay FC's playoff hopes alive.
They currently sit in 8th place with 31 points, and a win or draw against Houston would secure
their spot in the playoffs.
With so much hope on the line for Bay FC in their inaugural season and Houston's struggling
season, I'm picking Bay FC to get the three points on the road.
I'm also looking out for Azizat O'Shaala, who has seven goals this season after joining
Bay FC from FC Barcelona.
And on the other side of the ball, vets Abby Dahlkemper and Caprice Zydasko
will have to frustrate Houston's offense.
Logan, what are your keys for Bay FC
to keep their playoff hopes alive?
Once, I feel like I say this every week,
but it is crucial that they score goals,
like lots of goals, because as we know,
the tiebreaker, I think as we'll come up to,
the tiebreaker is going to be with goals.
So they really need to get that number up. But I honestly don't think they'll have that hard of
a time doing it given that they're playing Houston, who hasn't won in a fair amount of time and
hasn't really had a great season. Well, and also like, I wish I actually wish I had prepared the
stat prior to this, but there was a point in the season, well into the season where BFC hadn't drawn a game.
They were either losing games or winning games.
And to your point, like, some of them were just like,
we just needed more goals.
And it's always such a scary moment
when it comes to playoffs, I think,
unlike any other sport, when it comes down to like,
you could be right there and it could come down to,
you just didn't score enough goals
or whatever the time breaker may be. Yeah, I was looking at their recent games on I think
Monday and it was either like one nil or like two nil or they were losing one nil. Like they were
not getting numbers on the board and especially with the teams at the top, they at least have a
few games where it's like four goals or even three. Like it's not that bad.
But also when it comes down to that, they're going to have to be great on defense
because once again, they can't have any goals scored against them.
And you don't want everything like canceling out and they just end up breaking even again.
Well, let's look at the rest of the competition, because if Racing Louisville
win their last game against San Diego and BFC loses, they would end up tied on points because
right now in the standings, Racing Louisville are right below them. So, um, and like you said,
they would actually take the tiebreaker due to the 11 goal differential. So how do you think this
is going to play out with Louisville? I have no clue. Honestly, in true end of yourself fashion,
like Louisville would lose and then Bay would lose or something like that. But San Diego is a
tricky team because they have some wins over some decently good teams, especially the ones in the
middle of the pack. But then on the other side, Louisville has good wins and on paper they should
be beating them. So what I think is going to happen is honestly they might just both win.
I could really see that happening, but this is also the end of yourself.
We have to be considerate of how much chaos there is.
I was gonna say, that's what's so hard
about NWSL predictions, especially in the playoffs,
is it anything can happen.
And that is one of the things I love most about soccer
and women's soccer is like, nothing is guaranteed.
Anything can happen.
And all the teams kind of that were fighting
for a playoff spot were super close for a little bit up until last
week that just kind of came down to Bay and Racing Louisville.
So I wouldn't have expected Bay to be here given the beginning
of their season. But with that said, they're also kind of
peeking at the right time to make it into that spot.
Totally. And I was so wrong last week. I said Angel City was
going to do it. And then not only did they not get the win,
but Bay's win actually
just eliminated them before they even played against Utah. Well, let's look at Kansas City.
Two weeks ago, Tenwa Chowenga scored her 19th goal, which broke Sam Kerr's single season scoring
record. And then last weekend, she scored her 20th goal and became the first player to score
against every opponent in a single season. Tenwa is seven goals ahead of Orlando's Barbara Banda in the Golden Boot race.
So ultimately, she secured that title.
Now, if she can do this all in her first year in the league,
what can we expect from Temwa in year two?
I don't even know, because you say like we're saying that she's conquered
the end of yourself because she scored against every team.
What what comes after?
Can you do? Yeah.
But it's so crazy.
And I absolutely love to see it again, going back to that Ballon d'Or snub.
That is absolutely insane.
But the sky is truly the limit for her.
Maybe next year she aims to score multiple goals against each team.
I truly don't know, but we are so blessed to be living in an era that we could watch
her just absolutely cook on the field.
Her speed is so amazing.
And the way that Kansas City uses her is so amazing and it has really played to
their advantage.
Well, I feel like all Casey needs to do is win a championship this year.
And in Temwa's first year in the league, she will have done, I mean,
maybe other than winning MVP and finals MVP at this point, every year I hear on out
is just like just trying to better herself and break her own record.
It's like you already put yourself in a completely different league.
Like in the next five years, like what is maybe she'll go in net, honestly, trying to
get a shutout season.
Like she's in my eyes, she's superwoman.
Well let's stay with Kansas City because the current tied the record for most goals scored in a single season
at 54. With one game left in the season, they are likely to break
it. And the current did this in just their fourth year in the
league. So are they like are they the future of NWSL? They
have a lot going on for them. I mean, CBK Stadium is the first
stadium built specifically for a professional women's team.
They're definitely setting the bar when it comes to women's sports.
I think they're up there with the future. I mean, we do have to look back at the results that
they've had. I think the first year they didn't do very well. And then the second they were runners
up and then they went back to not doing well. And now they're kind of top mid this year. I think
they're three right now.
I'm interested to see how they do in the playoffs,
but I think given that they have their own stadium
and the fans are insane,
I think it was a 13th sold out match in a row
that they just had this weekend.
So obviously the market is there.
They love it.
We have great ownership and coaching behind it.
So I'm really interested to see what they're gonna do.
And I think whatever it is, it's going to be amazing.
Yeah. And they're in such a, like you said,
such a special market that like KC fans just love their
sports no matter what.
And if you want bring Taylor Swift into the conversation,
I know we're both not Swifties, but let's say she's like,
Hey guys, go to a game.
Like the impact that that will have is massive.
And the people already doing that,
their impact has been massive.
So their future is very, very bright to say the least.
I agree.
Well, actually let's look on the international stage.
Last weekend Emma Hayes announced her 26 player
training camp roster for the current FIFA
international window.
And the roster includes 18 members of the Olympic
roster and six uncapped players, three of them making their first US women's national team camp.
You can tell based on the roster that this camp is a time for Emma to experiment with you,
I'm sorry, new and young talent. Logan, were there any names that surprised you?
Eva Gatino, I believe her is how you say her name.
She plays in PSG, but that in my mind is telling me that
Emma, we knew she was already looking at the international
market or playing overseas, but she's looking there
even more because she's kind of come up here and there,
but hasn't really been as big of a name as let's say
Corbin Albert playing with PSG.
So I'm excited to see her. And also
Alyssa Molonson, I'm not gonna lie, I had to google her name and even watching as much soccer
that I have for some reason I haven't heard it before but she was the first expansion pick for
Bay and she was doing really well at Auburn. So she's playing in the NWSL, I haven't really
heard her name but Emma clearly has. So you could tell that she's been looking at everybody and there's a trend that these
are really young players.
So I'm excited to hear those.
But also when Olympic players don't have to be on the roster, I don't know what that roster
is going to be like, but it's going to be, I feel like an amalgamation of just different
players from different leagues, from different ages, different school, like
everything.
What word did you just use?
Amalgamation. My mom used it growing up and it stuck in my head.
What does that mean? Is it kind of like a smorgasbord?
A belting pot?
Okay, a smorgasbord.
A combination.
Amalgamation?
Wait, now I'm questioning my English.
No, no, no, no.
I just like, I learned something new today.
So that's like my key takeaway from this episode.
Amalgamation?
Yeah, I believe it's another word for combination.
Okay, we're going with it.
Well, thank you for teaching me something new today.
Anytime.
Well, let's close out the show.
And as you all know, the foundation of Good Follow
is that communities get built one Good Follow at a time.
And each week, one of us will highlight a person,
page or brand as the Good Follow of the week.
So Logan, you're up this week.
Who is your Good Follow?
Alrighty, my Good Follow of the week is Shannon Domingso,
I believe is how you say it,
at Shannon Domingso on TikTok. She does social for the NFL and vlogs her days.
So if you've ever seen a viral NFL moment on TikTok,
she is most likely the one behind it.
Let's take a look at one of her behind the scenes videos.
Come work football Sunday with me at the NFL.
So because I work for the league,
we have to do every single game on a Sunday.
So I'm not working for a particular team where I get to focus just on one game. It is every single game on a Sunday. So I'm not working for a particular team where
I get to focus just on one game. It is every single game. There's too many things.
Oh!
Wait, that would have been so bad.
10-15, I think we're done.
Absolutely insane.
I mean, I can barely keep up with Red Zone on NFL Sundays.
It is way too much to me.
I prefer to just watch one game, but she has to keep up with every single one and post
about it.
I just think that's honestly like having a superpower, but also as somebody who loves
the NFL, I love to see women take up space in men's sports and be very, very good at it.
So cool to see her running things and she's funny with it.
There was a moment when she was like here, damn,
when a lot of people were asking for a certain video,
I think, and I think that reply went more viral
than the video in question.
So that is my good follow of the week.
Everyone go follow at Shannon Domingso on TikTok.
I love her. I follow her.
Yeah, I just also to your point like to,
to do all of that on a day-to-day basis
for your full-time job
and then bring us behind the scenes with a vlog
is so much work and the fact that she doesn't consistently
and also I love her
cause she's another Filipino in sports
and can sing her butt off.
So definitely follow her on TikTok cause you're going to get a what's the word?
Amalgamation. An amalgamation of content.
I was actually going to ask if you knew if she was Filipino or not.
I follow her. She goes by like Shani, right? Yeah.
She will give you an amalgamation of content.
So I love the good follow. Follow her. She goes by like Shani, right? Yeah. She will give you an amalgamation of content. So
I love the Good Follow and we want to hear from you, our fans. Who is your Good Follow?
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