The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GOOD FOLLOW - The Aces Win the Championship!! Angel Reese’s Motion is Undeniable, Ros Roses & More!
Episode Date: October 14, 2025Today on Good Follow: Ros Gold-Onwude and Angel McCoughtry celebrate the Aces' championship and bring back Ros’ Roses! Giving their flowers to their favorite storylines and moments from the champion...ship series. Was this the Aces’ greatest championship? We can’t deny A’ja’s greatness, right? How impactful was Jewell Loyd for the Aces? How crazy was NaLyssa Smith’s season? Of course, they mention the Bam and A’ja love story! Then, DraftKings S.E.R.V.E.S. partners with the Larry Fitzgerald Foundation to raise funds and awareness for breast cancer research. Lastly, Ros and Angel break down Angel Reese’s money moves and why she is resonating with young women. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm Roz Goldanguerre, and that is five-time WNBA All-Star, Angel McCotry.
Woo-hoo!
Angel tried to bully me before the show, y'all.
I wanted to brush my teeth before the show,
and I pulled out a mini toothbrush and toothpaste from my purse,
and I was ridiculed for it.
Y'all don't travel with a toothbrush throughout the day?
No, we brush them in the morning.
So y'all are going from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.
One brush, that's it.
No midday brush, all the food, all the conversation.
There's a midday brush.
It's just at home.
You don't even have a brush to do your midday brush,
but you're coming at me.
That's crazy.
Let us know in the comments
What do you think about brushing rituals
Are you a morning, afternoon, and night
Hey, but we're sparkling white though
Give them that crust smile
Angel, you do have a criss smile
You too
There we go
All right, guys
We have a lot of reasons to smile
And one of them is
We're bringing the bells back out, baby
Oh baby, let's go!
Do you know why we have the bells out, Angel?
How do we have the bells?
You're relatively newer to the show
I bring the bells out
When we got milestones
or things to achieve or accomplish
We hit 4K subscribers
on YouTube.
Four thousand.
Hi,
number three thousand nine hundred ninety seven and three thousand nine hundred
ninety eight, three thousand nine hundred ninety nine hundred nine.
That's so awesome, man.
Yeah, it is exciting.
We, we relaunched this show in January,
so it's not even a full year.
There's a whole quarter of the year left.
And we're not only just watched on YouTube.
It's people who download most of our audience actually downloads and listens
on, you know, podcast streaming and things like that.
So everyone who chimes.
in who watches our clips on social, who engages, who follows.
We really appreciate you.
We try to put a great product out.
We really take a lot of pride in this.
I think we're finding our stride a little bit.
Yeah.
And we're going to keep working for you.
So we really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you, guys.
It's a family, so we love you.
And so actually, that takes us to today's show.
Yeah, yeah.
Here's the menu.
The Aces, they kept receipts, and they kept some receipts for Goodfollow show.
They called out all the non-believers.
And Roz's Roses is back for Goodfollow's favorite Aces championship storylines and Angel
Reese, my goodness, the aura queen, the motion queen, she continues to make many moves.
We're going to cover all of that in today's show.
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You can like, comment, subscribe, follow us.
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Bam!
Bada bang!
I'm wrapping Cameron Brink today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've got to start repping some of the girls.
I was on the show. That would be cool.
Absolutely. We love Cambring. Also, Stanford family. What up, Cam?
Let's go. I do want to say that speaking to Cam, speaking to all the things.
Women's basketball, it never stops.
No.
And that's a really exciting time that we are existing in. So WNBA season has come to an end, but guess what?
Unrivaled, Athletes Unlimited, College Basketball, NCAA, NCAA. It's all happening next.
And guess what? Good follow. We will cover that for you. We come to you two times a week covering
all of these women's basketball
and bigger women's sports
storylines for you. So you can trust us, be here.
The conversation keeps going. We're here.
Receipts?
Receipts.
Friday evening.
Shortly after the Aces won the chip.
Now we stand a prepared admin.
Yeah.
Okay?
They dropped and posted a video on social media
with all the receipts of people who folded
on them this season.
Let's take a look.
And I'm sorry,
the Aces, your time is over.
You're a team that can beat the bad teams
but can't beat the good teams.
Maybe you're just not a good team.
What are the Aces right now?
I think what you just said,
not a good team.
Bras, is the Aces died?
over. Honestly, probably yes.
Young stops, puts, hits, push the foul.
Jackie Young takeover.
The Grey underneath gets it to go in a foul.
Gray, what a dish.
10 assists now for Gray.
I see them being at the middle pack at best.
The Las Vegas Aces may end up in a situation where they may have to
consider trading agent.
We'll see.
Wait, what?
Come on now.
on now y'all we wasn't i wasn't in that yeah other teams got a lot better and the aces seem
seemed that they did not me being to have two two cameos i am wow rise too you got okay y'all
i need to explain this no no no no first of all i woke up the next morning to text messages
from some of my home girls that cover women's basketball talk about not you in 4k
And the AISS put you in 4K.
So the one comment about trading Asia is absolutely insane.
Not.
You're not even going to entertain that, yeah.
But to address my commentary, first of all, full stop, AIS has proved all of that wrong, right?
So congratulations to the champions.
And I deserve to smoke, for sure.
At the time that I was making that comment, though, like it absolutely was a very commonly held analysis of the way.
the Aces were playing.
I mean, objectively, they weren't playing well.
And we said that.
Yeah.
I think that clip was like from June or something like that.
So, I mean, remember, in August 2nd, they were, they lost by 52 or three points to Minnesota.
And that's when they went on that winning streak.
So you're talking about they were really struggling.
But, so I stand on that.
Yep.
But, I mean, if we keep it real, I even had the Mercury winning the championship, remember?
You did have that.
So I deserve all the Aces Smoke.
I deserve to Aces Smoke.
And that actually, it means that they deserve all the flowers.
You know what I'm saying?
All the flowers, yeah.
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resources. See dkng.com.com slash audio. Limited time offer. Angel, I want to include you in
Roz's roses. I'm ready. Let's go. Let's get it. Thank you some roses. Oh, man. These smell amazing.
Yes, they do smell good. And so Angel and I will be handing out roses and giving them out to,
we're going to highlight our favorite moments from the ACE's championship celebration and just
throughout the season, like things that really took them over the top. Okay. Right. Okay. So, let's
start off with a rose for
ACE's resiliency
and just that
the testimony of their season. Let's check
this out. Yeah. I love being
their coach. I love being their
coach. I love being their friend.
I love being a phone call for them.
I'm invested in their greatness and getting
that out of them every day. I know I've shared
tears with all of them. Just when it's different
because it was different.
There was
probably
a lot more adversity than any of us anticipated.
and at the other day we're all human
but we're humans that wanted to get it right
and get it right together they're stuck with me
I mean wherever they go they're going to be stuck with me
oh my gosh Ross
can we just wipe our two right now
like just I felt that you know
the first thing you want as a player
is a coach that you know that cares
a coach that you know that you can call on
a coach that you know that you'll go out there
and play your hardest for
You know what I mean?
Just through the adversity of the season, to me, this is the best championship the ACEs have.
Why? Why?
The other two seasons, it was expected, right?
They were on top.
They were maybe number one, number two.
We expected them to win the championship.
Just like this year, we expected Phoenix or we expected the lengths.
We did not expect the Aces at all.
They had a 53 point loss.
People had counted them out.
We just, we were just like, wow, what a season for them.
And we kind of was just like, we wrote them off.
This is the kind of championship.
This is the kind of championship that deserves a documentary.
Because that's what makes it, that adversity where everybody counted you out.
You were an underdog in a way.
Yeah.
And then here you come out of nowhere.
Yeah.
And you win a championship?
Yeah.
I feel that completely.
I actually think within the dynasty, so of the three championships that they've now won
in four years, Angel, this might be one that was.
the most difficult path or at least certainly the craziest turnaround.
I believe it might have been Becky's hardest coaching job or most difficult coaching job.
And they've often said it.
It was different this year.
This was a different path.
And there was also different cast and crew.
Think about it, different assistant coaches, a lot of different rosters.
People came in during the year, movement within the starting lineup, movement to the bench,
just a lot of change up.
This was a season of flexibility.
And, and I find that there's, I use the word testimony because I find this season really relatable.
Like, this is something you could tell to an AAU team one day.
Like, hey, we didn't start the season strong, but it's not ever over.
Never forget that AIS team that, you know, was 500 and then won the championship.
We still have time to turn this around.
That's.
Even personally, it'll hold on to that.
Like, you can be in a season of struggling and still turn it around and come out on top.
I think there's a lot of resilience there.
And one thing I want to point out, too, is that at some point this season, it really felt like Asia Wilson, you know, was dragging this team with her to the top, right?
Yeah.
This championship, and certainly towards the end of the win streak into the playoffs and all the way to the championship, this was about team improvement and team success.
The ACEs got better as a unit.
Like, I think obviously Asia Wilson was great, but their defense got better.
They got more serious about rebounding.
People understood their roles and, like, chipped.
in that way. And ultimately, they really became a championship team by the end. So
roses for y'all. Roses. There you go, guys. Like, oh, a testimony.
Beautiful. Our next rose is to Asia Wilson. Of course. Asia, Rose is for you, baby girl.
Now, so this is a quick one because we already, I mean, hello, hello. So Asia Wilson had a
historic season. She is the 2025 league scoring champ, also the blocks champ, um, co-defensive players.
of the year. She is the league MVP, the finals MVP, and led her team to a championship.
So, I mean, just she almost won every single thing you could win in a WNBA season.
I mean, the main thing is do not get tired of her greatness, guys. Don't have the, what did you
call it? Greatness fatigue? Fatigue. Don't get fatigued with her greatness, please.
The next rose, which is a combo rose that we're giving to Jewel Lloyd and Becky Hammond,
A combo rose.
So let's look at this clip
between Becky and Jewel.
Never a doubt.
Oh, my God.
What a lifesaver you are.
And you're the best.
You're the best.
You're about winning.
You're about all the right things.
It's Becky Hammond holding Jewel Lloyd in her arms,
sobbing.
Their faces are in each other's necks.
I think we get lucky
because Becky's miced up from the game.
Yeah.
And so we like have this moment
that I'm not even sure that they're aware we have, right?
And all Jewel can even muster out because she's sobbing is, thank you, thank you, you know?
Yeah.
And I want to also give the context that postgame, Jewel Lloyd had a couple of moments,
whether it was at the podium or on the court with Holly Roe.
But she said, I needed to go someplace where I could heal, where I could play free.
Hmm.
And actually, we do have it on tape.
Jewel also post-game saying this.
You know, Becky was definitely the person that believed in me from the start.
You know, I was kind of ridden off in exile, but I ended up in the promise land.
Just to give some more context on Jewel's season, she averaged 13.8 points, so about 14 points,
five and a half blocks, one and a half steals in the four games of the WNBA finals.
Like, absolutely stepped up was a huge X factor to get the Aces to the championship.
So, Angel, like, what do you make of all of the emotion you're saying?
Yeah.
First, let me say for the comment, her being, feeling exile, I hope she didn't
never felt that way from the fans or, because I never felt that she was written off.
I always, she's one of them once to me.
And I feel like the fans feel the same way.
So I don't know who could have ever made her feel.
So I appreciate that perspective because I think it comes from you as a fellow player
and someone who has played years against Jewel-Loy.
It's nothing but respect.
she was absolutely being publicly ridiculed um she was also her she was having four seasons in comparison
to her body of work um numbers were down points were down and like again like super vulnerable
like her performances are all on public display to be you know judged and she was coming in for kelsey plum
for the aces and like at first the production just did not match the expectation and and i would say
it was hard for her. I'd also say, don't forget, she just went through a season where she had to leave
the Seattle storm because she said, in her word, there was bullying going on. Like, it's been really
traumatic for her the last couple of seasons. And that's, we don't even know how long that's been
going on in Seattle when she was there. But she was really hurting. And Jewel has been very
public about the loss of joy and the loss of confidence that she had had over the last
couple of years now in the WNBA.
And I actually think in the playoffs, as the playoffs progressed, you started to see more
activity from her, more joy, and more confidence.
By the time the finals came around, Jewel was bouncing around and getting offensive
rebounds.
I was like, goddamn, Jewel Lloyd is athletic.
Where the hell does she come from?
Like, on top of her hitting big threes and big shots.
But I found myself watching that clip with her and Becky, and I was like, yeah, I was just
like, yeah, Joel, like sometimes you need the right voice, and that was Becky's, the right
coach and leader to breathe some life into you, to believe in you. And it takes time sometimes
to get out the mud. To get out of that. And it's a testament to the Aces. She could start anywhere.
She's a star. We know what she's done. But for her to just put her ego to the side and come off
the bench, you know, many people don't do that. I can't stress enough how happy I am for
Jewel Lloyd to break through.
She broke through.
A rose for you, Jewel.
Okay, Angel, our next
rose is for
Melissa Smith. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's
so many testimonies and journeys that
happen during this Aces season. It's really
crazy when you think about it. That pink tambourine
made a lot of sense, right? Okay, so
Melissa Smith, we got a rose for you.
Talk about a journey.
She started the season with the Indiana
fever. Then she was traded
to the Dallas Wings.
And then traded again to the Las Vegas Aces.
And if you remember in both of those stops, like they weren't triumphant with the fever, with Dallas, the entire team was really struggling.
And like, it just wasn't a great situation.
She got traded to the Aces.
And many people were like, what does that do?
And like all of those people, you know, would be wrong.
Because she excelled with the Aces.
And, you know, for me, what I see in Alyssa Smith's story is like, girl, how often is it about right situation, right,
fit you've got to you sometimes you can be lucky you can change the trajectory of your career like
finding the right uh fit of a team for you to find a role to belong to the aces needed someone who could
bring energy rebound defend uh finish efficiently around the rim which she was doing someone to
compliment asia inside you know not only helped defensively but offensively and she brought
that energy and i also think the right placement like the right challenge being next to asia wilson
I think was really positive for Melissa Smith.
It forced her to level up
and to come and be consistent
and see what greatness looks like
because she's always had the potential.
So kids, if you ever feel like your situation is bad,
you never know what can turn around.
Call Melissa Smith.
Call these girls and ask them what they did.
And Alyssa, tell them the price just went up, baby.
Here's a rose.
Guess what? Free agency for everyone.
Hello?
All right, all right.
We got another rose to give out.
our next rose is actually to bam it's the bam in Asia it's to Bam out of bio he really has stepped up as the supportive boyfriend like really he did his big one think about it okay so let's check out Bam and Asia at during the finals
People were joking around.
Is Asia going to get a second ring this year?
Here it says!
No, no, no, no.
We joke here.
Whatever's the right timing.
But listen, you've seen Pops got the Pops hug,
and then BAM got the baby hug.
And look, I've actually, I've kept receipts.
Look, Bam has been showing up.
He rocks Asia's sneakers.
Like, we've seen that, him watching the A-1s rocking them.
Remember when Asia had a share the Defensive Player of the Year award with Atlanta
Smith?
And so he's on Twitter, just like any old regular person,
Emo sub-tweeting about the defensive player of the year being a co.
Remember, he presented her, her MVP award.
He sure did.
You know, the way he's holding her up.
He's at the games.
He's holding her after the championship.
Like, there's a lot of y'all still waiting for a text back.
You know what I'm?
I know I am.
Okay.
Hey.
Like, for real, man.
Some of y'all, some of us.
Asia, you have done everything right.
Yeah.
We love the loving basketball image.
And that'll do it for Roz's roses.
And I guess Angels, roses too.
Oh, let's go.
We'll be right back.
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We got to get to the motion queen, the aura queen.
Aja Reese, her WNBA season might be over, but she is always making money move.
Okay, so, I mean, she did a lot.
this season and let me take you through all she's done this year so far and this is what we
could get off the top of our heads if we miss anything let us know but i mean just to name a few
angel reese she was named global ambassador and creative collaborator with juicy couture
also like she's taken some brands that have have had huge brand equity and maybe have like
had great storytelling of the past yep and like brought them to the right now to gen z to the current
culture like she can make anything cool um okay she's going to be the first pro athlete to walk
the victoria secret runway she has a signature sneaker with rebuck now back in the day the girlies
was wearing rebuck right he's wearing rebuck now but it's been some time since it's really been
at the forefront of the culture been a while but she's popping it again boom right and so she's got
her own signature sneaker the new ar-1 colorway drops this month charm city okay she's a cover girl for
WNBA 2K-26, WNBA edition.
Pau, pow, pow!
Unapologetically Angel, her podcast is back with new guests like Common.
Okay, she's an actress.
What can't she do?
So she's making her debut in a House of Dynamite.
She's literally starring next to Edress Elba.
That's every girl's dream.
I think so.
Hello.
Now, Angel don't just attend the Met Gala.
She's not just an attendee.
Angel was a committee member for the Met Gala.
I mean, she was like part of decision making.
Part of it.
That's huge.
Babe was like 22, 23 at the time.
Oh, and a wise philosopher by the name of Drake once said, don't tell me that you
would model if you haven't been in Vogue.
Not only has Angel been in Vogue, she was on the cover of Vogue and was the first woman's
basketball player to do so.
I'm personally out of breath trying to get through all of like the way she has hit the culture
and all the things she's doing.
What does it mean for people to see a woman's basketball player
having this much emotion and have this much impact?
It's everything.
She's setting a bar high for all women's basketball players
who used to say we weren't marketable, we weren't pretty,
we couldn't do this.
We heard it all.
She is setting a bar and raising it for future girls to do the same thing.
Angel, keep going.
Do not stop.
Keep it going.
Yeah.
Like I was trying to think of like there's no player,
WNBA player that has transcended the game.
like Angel Rees and is impacting
culture and is like just
known in such a diversity of ways like Angel Rees
there's not one right now and even if I think about
over the course of the WNBA
the only person I could think of
and please if you have another idea
Lisa Leslie was doing Martin
she was you know all the commercials all the things
Cheryl Swoops Cynthia right so that you know what
actually yeah so okay cool but it had been a long
time since it impacted in that kind of
Yeah. Angels is different too though. Like I think she's really like talking to like kids who may not even recognize her as a hooper. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I think like Gen Z outside people, audiences, brands see Angel and they see someone who's obviously like a hooper. Obviously super beautiful. But like you want more than that. She's she's bringing to the table that she's a hard worker, you know, multifaceted that she's strong.
like, you know, physically strong, too, you know?
And there's also this sense of she's someone who gets hated on publicly at times.
Like, it's an us against the world.
Her friends, like, love seeing her beat the expectations.
There's a sense of like, what can Angel do next?
And I think at the center of it with Angel, she's just always herself.
She's herself.
She's super authentic.
Well, we have to move on because our show's at a time.
Oh.
So that's it for Good Follow.
Kick it with us on Thursday as well.
We do Tuesdays and Thursdays.
got a special guest coming Thursday, but yeah, a rose to all of you. Thank you guys.
We'll catch you next. We love you. Bye.
