The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: 85 Out of 100 (feat. Jerry Bruckheimer)
Episode Date: July 3, 2025"I'm not gonna call him a liar, but he's not telling the truth." Mike Ryan and Billy are dialed in, and Mike says he is elite at catching things with his bare hands. Plus, legendary movie producer Jer...ry Bruckheimer joins us to discuss making the F1 movie, what it was like to sit on Top Gun: Maverick for two years before it was released, and the legendary 2009 motion picture G-Force. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Chicago during the summer is lovely.
Didn't you get married? Or didn't you get proposed in Chicago? Yeah, Trump Tower. Didn't
see that one coming. I believe that as part of our 4th of July celebration, Best Of, we're
off tomorrow. I believe we're playing all our Trump interviews to celebrate America. Hosted by
Jeremy. Gosh, I remember that. I remember when you guys used to have him on the local show.
Yeah.
That was Pablo Torre finds out first show was him re-airing
some of our Trump interviews in a way that embarrassed me.
He loved us.
He really did.
He said we had the best show in America.
I listen a lot.
I listen a lot.
You guys do a great job.
He was a great radio guest back in the day. Jerry Bruckheimer is gonna join us here in a second.
He's the biggest Hollywood producer, correct?
Yes.
The biggest. Spielberg?
Harvey Weinstein?
F1 is the number one movie in America.
I did see it, it's giant.
It's just big.
It's not surprising that it would be big
if it's Jerry Bruckheimer and F1,
but it just looks expensive. Is it realistic that it would be big if it's Jerry Bruckheimer and f1
But it just looks expensive realistic. Yeah, I mean it looks expensive. It's obviously realistic
They had the cooperation of f1 my movies have to be realistic
One of the things that I wanted to talk about with you guys
We will have all the baseball you want in our two or all the baseball you don't want in our two when we do
pitch clock and Jason Benetti in the second hour we're also going to open up the
club before the weekend but before I go any further I should say that perhaps
the greatest catch in major league history was absolutely the result of a
clumsy Kevin Mitchell who should have been playing left field with a chainsaw
instead of a glove like he was a terrible outfielder.
And what happens here though,
defies all reason and physics.
Where if I say to you,
do you believe that you could catch a fly ball
with your bare hand?
Yes or no.
Now he should have put up his glove and caught the ball
if he were somebody who was a good defensive outfielder
But instead he didn't put up his
Misplaced I can't it no he just but he caught the ball with his bare hand
And I just don't think that any of us could catch a fly ball with our bare hand
Do you think if I gave put her on the pole at LeBattard show if I gave you?
100 chances to catch a fly ball,
could you catch one with your bare hand?
I'm sad to report.
Well, proud to report.
I'd do that more often than not.
I'm going yes 100 times?
I'm really good at catching things with one hand.
I went to the Miami Open, Cocoa Goth,
saw my daughter hit a tennis ball right to her.
I had a champagne flute in one hand, full extension, cash.
Everybody around me, ooh-de-naught.
I'm like, I do this routinely.
You gotta go much shorter than 100 times,
like if I give you two times.
Everyone, ooh-de-naught.
Everyone did.
I am like low key.
Did they hem it hard also?
Low key, Alita catching things with one hand.
Guys, this wasn't even a fly ball.
It was more like a line drive.
No. No, this looks lazy. It wasn't, it was more like a line drive. No.
No, this looks lazy.
It wasn't foul territory too, so not a risk reward.
It's deep.
Like this is not a, like this is a lot,
this is by the whole run wall.
I just like that he got to a point where it's like,
yeah, this isn't even worth me trying with the glove anymore.
I'm just going straight for the bare hand,
that's how bad I've overplayed.
Give me a hundred chances at that, I'd say 85.
I pulled down.
85.
85, I pulled down 85 I pulled down
Get a jugs machine or something like that because I think the what we're gonna be concerned about is your ability to hit it
Consistently to this spot, but if it's in that spot and I'm tracking it the same way Mitchell is yeah from that distance
Yeah, like if you're from 10 feet away
I think you could catch a bunch of likely to catch that with my bare hand than I am with a glove
Kevin Mitchell is 300 feet.
He's 100 yards.
He's a football field away from where that ball was.
Again, he totally misread that.
Agreed, it was a clumsy, poorly played ball,
but also the greatest catch in major league history.
And warning track.
I feel like if I was out there trying to catch a fly ball,
even just with my glove.
The change in terrain is tricky.
Yeah, the warning track, I'd be so scared. once I start to feel the warning track on the me. Oh my god
Appropriately named greatest catch ever is Gary Matthews jr. Do you think they had other names for the warning track?
They're like, what do we call this? It's a great name. You're absolutely right
I had never considered before now two things that have come up in the show
Which is think about the time period when baseball's people got together and said, you know how the umpire needs to tell the official scorer that the game's under protest?
What did he mean?
Just do a pantomime P with your hand.
I don't know what you're saying.
PROTEST!
P-O PROTEST!
Okay, thank you.
It's one of my favorite things in all of sports.
Even Coco Goff gave me a little salute after I pulled that thing down.
Is that so?
85 out of 100, huh?
85 out of 100, I swear to God.
I'm really good at that.
One of the more impressive things I've seen Bhug Shambhi do is catch a screaming fly ball
with his bare hand, but it's also because he has something that's an oven mitt for a
right hand.
It's a much larger hand than the normal human hand,
which is what feels like what Kevin Mitchell has.
Brother, I got massive hands.
I want it.
Massive.
You're stretching out those hands right now.
Well, that's part of it.
Remember that we did the Johnny Bench challenge, right?
We did this on the show back in the Clevelander days,
and they said only Johnny Bench could have
like seven baseballs in their hand.
I matched it.
Johnny Bench even commented saying my form or something wasn't the exact same, but he was lying
Go ahead and get please the video of Johnny bench holding. I believe it was seven baseballs in a hand
I also am tempted to send you out to Jeremy right now to see if we could get you to test this
I don't believe you'd catch a one
I believe I also think another thing that I would like to do is... Jeremy couldn't even get on the field. As a show, one of the things that I would like to do is one day try to see if any of us could catch a punt.
Because I believe we would all drop a punt.
I think it's much harder than we think it is.
100 chances?
Well, I think you've got a better chance of catching a punt.
Put it on the poll at LeBataard Show.
Which do you have better odds on, catching an NFL punt or catching a fly ball with your hands?
Tell me a hundred times is too many. You gotta say like out of two times. I got what you're doing with the math
I'm saying that after two times we will have two drops and we will have to have more chances because I think you guys are
Underestimating how hard it would be to catch with your bare hand. He's running, it's not even just a pop-up or a fly ball.
He's in full sprint, like it's not even,
you guys are making it, I guess I'm making it sound
like you're just stationing yourself under a fly ball.
That's the part Mike is confused about.
Positioning yourself under a fly ball.
No, he just said catch a pop-up, fair-handed.
If I toss on a pop-up.
Not on the run, 300 feet warning track,
major league player. This was a kinda lazy,
lazy fly foul ball.
In 1972.
And what was the score in the game?
Was there any pressure in that moment?
No pressure, but it wasn't 1972.
Kevin Mitchell played in the 90s, played in the late 80s.
I'm gonna find you a photo.
We put up the Johnny Bench thing.
I replicated this too, so I'm gonna find this.
I'm like a dog with a bone.
He did question your form on this,
because you didn't hold the seven baseballs
as well as Johnny Bench did. Can uh... form on this to do you didn't hold the seven baseballs as well as johnny bench did uh...
ken can we put up on the screen please some carmelo anthony tweet his reaction
to uh... damien lillard being uh... waved by the box
carmelo anthony with three exclamation points and all capital letters says no
loyalty in sports that's got a hundred thousand three hundred and two likes we've got business per usual we got an SMH as well Carmelo Anthony from
over a couple of minutes was really upset about Damien Lillard being waved
and no loyalty in sports. It's one it's one of the dumbest takes I've seen in a
long time from an athlete it really is I. I mean, no loyalty in sports. Damien Lillard,
if you would, if the Bucks would have sat down Damien Lillard before this transaction
and said, Damien, if you could have anything you want right now from us as your employer,
okay, if you could have anything you want, what would it be? Would his answer not be,
give me all of my money and allow me to do whatever I want? No loyalty. What does answer not be? Give me all of my money and allow me to do whatever I want
No loyalty
What is Carmelo talking about? Do you think that Damien Lillard texts Carmelo? Hey, but hey, I'm good. This is good
I'm happy about this. I just I don't know loyalty in sports
I'm gonna tell you something the Bucks with the way they treated Damian Lillard,
they're the most loyal employer in the history of sports.
Here's all of your money, do whatever you want.
Well I believe what Carmelo is doing, as we often do, as many of us do, no one more than
Greg Cody, is he's looking at this through his own prism on where loyalty fell apart
for him or where he would have liked to possibly been with one team his entire career so he might not be actually
saying that
of the box he may be delivering that to of the idea that willard's career is
ending this way where he doesn't get to uh... you know continue to
allow to blossom the relationship that luke ahead with dallas or that he had
with portland well i i feel like he's a little bit late to that party then.
I mean, Lillard was traded two years ago,
and, you know, of his own wanting.
It's ridiculous to me.
Mike, this is not the photo I am seeing
of you holding seven baseballs.
You're holding them differently than...
You're holding them like you would hold sort of a pizza dough
when you're making it.
You're sort of using gravity and physics to allow the balls to lean against your wrist and
whatnot as opposed to Johnny Bench who was just holding the seven balls and
could turn it upside down and be still holding the seven balls in his hand.
It feels like a semantics argument but I think you're giving voice of what Johnny
Bench himself said that I have to hold it up and I'm just genuinely confused by
it because there I am clear as day. You to hold it up and I'm just genuinely confused by it because there I am,
clear as day, holding it up.
I would say you're holding it sideways.
He's essentially holding it facing down,
like palming a basketball.
That's what he's doing.
I couldn't do what you're doing here.
Johnny, I did this live on television, all right?
I did this live in front of people.
I have a still image from God knows when,
and I'm supposed to
just take your word for it how do I know those balls and it just fall right out
of your hand Johnny bench you're the liar you can't do what I did Wow all
right since we're calling people liars anyone want to go after brawling all
this I mean I'm not gonna call him a liar all right that's not nice but I'm
gonna straight-up you, he's
not telling the truth. What do you say? I mean... Let's play the sound for Zazzle and
let's get him agitated by just playing the brawny sound.
When you've talked about team stuff, within, this is a weird thing right, your teammates in addition to that, when you guys have talked about the original franchise and stuff, have you gotten the sense that this is where he wants to be?
No, we don't really talk about it much, but I think when stuff like that does come up, he just tells me to not worry about it.
Not even pay attention to who is just laughing and shit you have going on right now.
I'm gonna stand Van out.
There is no way Bronny James, they're at home for dinner.
It's the biggest story in sports right now.
Is LeBron gonna get traded from the Lakers?
And Brawny's just sitting at the dinner table eating his Brussels sprouts?
He doesn't say, yo dad, what's going on?
Are you gonna play for the Lakers?
Oh, by the way, who am I gonna play for next year?
Am I gonna be traded with you?
What are we thinking as a family?
No, I'm just going about my business.
We don't really talk about that kind of stuff. No, we don't really talk about it much.
Okay. Okay. You think he lives at home? Okay. Yeah, definitely. Really? Yeah. Why
not? I mean, because he's an NBA player. I feel like he probably would want to go
out on his own, have his own place. Nah, I think he lives at home. Like you get
meals, laundry, you don't have to pay rent. When he went to USC, did he live at
home? I don't know. Because I wonder like, is rent. When he went to USC, did he live at home?
I don't know.
Cause I wonder, like, is he like,
that he went away to college and now it's like,
oh, I guess I have to move back into mom and dad's house.
You're not calling him a liar though?
Cause it sounds like you're calling him a liar.
I'm not calling a liar, but I will say,
definitely not telling the truth.
Well, wait a minute.
Has your child ever confronted you about work situations
at the dinner table?
If it was the biggest story in sports media, probably would ask, would probably be curious.
You know, dad's a free agent. He's being courted by a bunch of different media entities
for millions of dollars. Hey, might have to move, might have to go live somewhere else.
My son's friends ask him at school, hey, what's your dad gonna do? I don't want to talk about
that kind of stuff. If LeBron leaves and Brony is living at school, hey, what's your dad gonna do? I don't know, we'll talk about that kind of stuff.
If LeBron leaves and Bronny is living at home,
does he now have to find a new home?
Like, do you think they sell the house
and like Bronny, now you're on your own?
Or do you think they say like, okay,
you can live at home?
I don't think Bronny's living at home.
As Ad says he is.
I know he is.
Stan Van Inn on that.
I know, but I'm Stan Van Out on the idea
that Bronny is living at home.
Really?
You don't think he's living at home?
I don't think so.
You think he goes down from like you know the James Manor and
he's like in a 1-1 on a rookie deal no I think he often goes back home and
sleeps there too but he lives somewhere else I in a 1-1 on a rookie deal keep
doing that but I believe yeah I don't know why you think he's living off the
D League salary he's made you a partner he got a multi-million dollar deal as a second round pick. Yeah, but you don't know if there's gonna be another deal
You don't want to blow that all on you know indulgences now
And Ronnie's home with his family is definitely so much nicer than whatever place he would be in by himself
That's what I'm wondering. Is there like a brawny wing that he has?
I'm sure wherever brawny lays his head to rest is luxurious
But he's not looking for an update on his or his father's future.
That part seems ridiculous, right?
The Lakers got DeAndre Ayton for two years after he was bought out, and that is just
to do alley-oop dunks from Luca.
I would assume, I'm assuming that the rest of you assume, that Rich Paul coming out after LeBron James again
opted in 50 plus million dollars has a no trade can control everything about his
future it felt to me like Rich Paul's statement to ESPN was also and be aware
that we might ask for a trade very soon into the season because Luke is the
future and we are obviously not the future
because LeBron is the oldest player in the league.
And now, since that's been like a week ago, a few days, whatever it was, we can admit
it feels like something weird is going on around the Lakers, right?
The part that's weird is that they're both on the same team together, one of them is
25 and the other is 40.
They did just get sold to the Lakers.
Yes, and they got sold for 10 billion dollars
What does that make the Cowboys worth incidentally if the Lakers are worth 10 billion dollars? What the hell are the Cowboys worth?
I don't know, but isn't it crazy that Jay Moore is the most successful comedian ever
I I have a way to close this loop for those who are wondering so in
2024 Sports Illustrated wrote an article that said Bronte still lives in LeBron James's massive LA compound as Lakers.
Of course.
Okay, I stand corrected.
Can't wait to talk myself into, you gotta be able to trade Highsmith for LeBron. You've got to.
Oh wait, hold on. Update here.
Brawny James finally departs $39 million family property as Lakers rookie fulfills LeBron's ultimate rule.
So I don't stand corrected.
What's his ultimate rule?
I don't know, these headlines are like very,
it seems as though,
this was five months ago.
The shoes are on the stand van outside of the house.
Can we put up back on the screen here,
Johnny Bench and Mike Ryan,
and see if they're doing the same thing?
Do we believe those two people are doing the same thing?
The answer is no, but I'm still impressed
with what Mike's doing.
Thank you.
Can that be?
Yes, that's a sufficient answer.
Also, we have less doubt about the validity of mine,
given that I was live on the air,
and this is a grainy black and white photo,
source, just take my word for it, bro.
I do believe, though, there's a bit of cheating going on,
at least a little bit bit with Johnny Bench here
because is that a middle finger?
Is that a finger in the middle of the baseballs
that is in there?
I know Mike seems to have a bit of a digit in there.
How's that cheating?
Well, because it seems like,
I don't even know how he's holding that top baseball.
If the top of his hand,
look at the top baseball and look where his top finger is.
Like how is he even doing that?
So he's holding it straight up and that top one, I think,
is just balanced on top of the other baseballs.
You look at the two images, the way that I'm doing it
seems to be the more difficult of the two paths.
I don't believe I can endorse what you're presently electing.
I'm not holding it straight up where one of the baseballs
can just rest up top just willy nilly like that.
I'm holding it in an angle that I actually have to grip it.
Can you reenact this if you had to?
I can give me seven baseballs.
Let's do, let's try.
Well, I want to for, at some point this summer,
I want you to catch punt and try and catch a baseball hand.
Catch punt with your hands.
Two tries.
Catch a punt.
For the punt or for the fly ball?
Catch a punt like nobody's business.
Okay, again with nobody's business. I still don't understand that expression.
I'm making my business.
I'd like MetalArts business to become testing whether people can catch things with a bare hand or not.
Because I don't believe that you guys are properly respecting how hard it is to do basic athletic things in professional sports.
You guys consistently.
I don't think you're respecting me.
I'm a six foot three, 210 pound dude with huge digits.
Wow.
You do not look in this photo.
Like I don't have huge digits?
Like you are doing what Johnny Bench is doing.
You're right, I'm doing something better.
He's got a ball resting atop of six baseballs.
I'm out there holding it up on live television
for the world to see.
Yeah.
Billy, since you got in there with that, yeah,
can you tell me why it is the other day that you?
You and I have been locked in.
We both said Cobbler at the exact same time.
Cobbler, yeah, that was off air, I think.
Yeah, it was.
But we're dialed. I'm glad that you guys have found this chemistry. Webler, yeah, that was off air, I think. Yeah, it was. But we're dialed.
I'm glad that you guys have found this chemistry.
We're bringing it today, Dan.
I know what a lot of people in the audience are thinking,
because the thought did cross some of our minds.
You know what?
Man of the Works hired so many people, so many people.
How lucky are we that we got most of the originals
the day before the 4th of July,
while all of the new people seemingly
give themselves an extended vacation
and all the fuel that we hired for relief
for really the ones getting all the rest
while we're in here working.
That's what the fans are saying.
So you know what, fans?
We're here for you.
And I'm here to support Mike today.
And we're locked in.
Mike has ping pong balls here that he can hold.
I just caught three simultaneously, one hand only.
Let's just throw things at Mike and see if you can catch him.
Three wiffle balls, all right, so in the interim,
while you guys are doing this, you guys can do it
for the last five minutes, but in the interim,
Chris Cody, can you please put together quickly
a list for me, a top five list of injuries
that happen during otherwise happy things,
the way that Red Panda just got hurt, she's out.
Spoiler alert, she might be hurt. Well, she's got a broken wrist.
It's reported that she has, she fell down.
Billy, are you done now tossing him things?
I was hoping we would do that for five minutes.
No, I want, you had questions, it felt like a distraction.
Not for you, I could go without hearing from you again
until after the holidays.
I could be totally fine with that.
Scissors, that seems safe.
See that, see you can catch, this guy can catch. Can you give me top five things, until after the holidays. I could be totally fine with that. Scissors, that seems safe.
See, he can catch, this guy can catch.
Can you give me top five injuries
that have happened during Happy Things, Chris Cody?
Number five, Dan, is Bill Gramatica
celebrating a made kick, game winning kick,
and injuring his leg.
That's a good one.
You think that you have four better than that?
That is the moment that I associate with the grammaticas.
A first quarter injuring for your team,
the fact they no longer have a kicker,
because you clearly tore your knee as a grammatica,
being too happy.
That's in the first quarter.
Again, the Cardinals lost their kicker
for the rest of the game.
And that was their thing.
They got so excited over any made kick. Number four. Cardinals lost their kicker for the rest of the game and that was their thing like they got both of them
They got so excited over any made kick number four number four red panda What happened to her celebrating nice halftime show and she fell and she broke her wrist
I don't know if she broke her wrist. She hurt her wrist. I think she broke her wrist. It was a it was a
Re-aggravating of a previous wrist injury. She went out on a wheelchair after hurting her wrist,
which was a little odd.
Ow, that's from high up.
That was a brutal fall.
So that's number four.
Number three, Kendre Morales.
Ah, Kendre.
Snapping his leg.
I need my phone, that's where the list is.
Oh, is that Steppin' on home plates?
He just threw your phone at Mike.
He was celebrating game winning home run,
jumped at home plate, his team around him
like snapped his leg out for a year.
I don't think he was ever the same after that.
Really sad.
Yeah.
Anybody else?
Number two.
I'm sorry, these guys are distracting me.
I know they are.
While you guys are busy distracting Chris here
before the July 4th holiday,
can you guys do me the favor of getting for me the video
of how the Mariners celebrated their victory yesterday
because they have a dorky celebration
where five or six of their guys
sort of line dance together while do-si-doing.
He caught a phone.
Yeah, a rotary phone, no less.
Landline.
Where did we get a rotary phone from?
He caught a landline.
I mean, do people even know what?
Put it on the poll at LeBataarShow.
This guy can catch it, pitch and sink.
I can't believe it. Throw it. I dare you.
Put it on the poll at LeBataarShow. Can't believe, throw, I dare you. Put it on the poll at LeBotardShow.
Do you know what a rotary phone is, yes or no?
If I handed that phone to my younger son,
he'd have no idea what's going on.
Number two, Tony Finau snapping his ankle
at the Masters par three.
He hits a hole in one, the Family Day par three thing,
and he starts running down the whole thing,
like celebrating crowd going wild,
and he hits like a slope and he dislocates his ankle.
Was he running down the fairway?
What was he running?
It was like the fairway,
but it ended up being a little hill,
so on the down slope, he turned his ankle,
and he like popped up, and everyone's like,
what's happening?
And he literally pops his ankle back into place,
and then like just limps the rest of the way.
It was really sad, because it was such a happy time. Family Day at the Masters, part just limps the rest of the way. It was really sad.
Cause it was such a happy time.
Family Day at the Masters,
part three of my favorite event at the Masters.
Number one, accompanied by some sound here,
Jonathan Pierre Paul.
Celebrating 4th of July with fireworks.
He lost fingers.
Giant owner John Mara who also today said
he doesn't know how many fingers JPP has.
Does anybody?
Does anybody still know how many fingers JPP has?
Because he played for a long time with like a bit of a glove or a cast in order to disguise
what he had done with an exposure.
Who's Jonathan Pierre Paul?
Jason Pierre Paul, sorry.
His brother, my bad Paul Jason Pierre Paul sorry brother my bad
Jason Pierre Paul brothers named Jonathan Pierre Paul do you guys know if how many fingers what's
the answer to the question how many what what's your best guess I'm gonna guess three and a half
what is your best guess on how many fingers Jason Pierre Paul has I would guess eight and a half. Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you for that mathematical clarification.
I was doing one hand and I'm not.
He has one finger on each hand.
I'm seeing here, AI tells me he has nine fingers.
That's not true.
He lost a portion of his index finger
and some of his middle.
So if you combine.
So you lose two halves.
He has two halves, So that's a full.
That does make a hole.
Two halves make a hole.
So he has nine fingers.
Chad GPT won't tell you that.
Two.
You know what?
It's hard to say.
How am I gonna say?
No, but you surprised me.
He has seven and two halves?
I know.
Eight and two halves.
You surprised me because I believe as a riddle,
if we told people people someone has nine fingers
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Don Lebatard.
The hoiest captain sloppy. Stugatz. Is this chum
bucket? This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugatz.
This man right here is responsible for saving the movies, saving the movie theaters. It
is not Tom Cruise, it's Mr. Blockbuster. He's done Top Gun, he's done Bad Boys, Beverly Hills Cop, he's got the number one movie in America and everywhere
right now, F1. What was the second title, Jerry Bruckheimer, with us that you guys were going to
go with that wasn't F1 as the title to this movie? Because it's very simple. It's Brad Pitt, F1,
that's the way to do it. Was there any other secondary choice for what this movie was gonna be named other than just F1?
Always F1, never anything else,
because Le Mans, all the other great movies about racing
were about the sport itself.
And F1 is a phenomenal sport all around the world.
We're F1 the movie.
If there's a sequel, is it F2 or is it F12?
Then is there confusion that it's F12? Like, what do we do here, Jerry? Let's get lucky and hope they want a sequel, is it F2 or is it F12, then is there confusion that it's F12?
Like what do we do here, Jerry?
Let's get lucky and hope they want a sequel.
That's the key.
The key is to get the audience to come and show up.
And so far they've been showing up in droves,
so we're really lucky.
And you're unsurprised by that, correct?
Because this movie is big and loud.
You knew it was going to be successful, correct?
We knew it was going to be successful after correct? We knew it was going to be successful
after we had the previews.
Any producer or somebody who works on a movie
says they have a big hit before it comes out,
they're lying, nobody knows.
The audience is much smarter than we are.
And they'll tell us if they want to go see it or not.
And so far they're lining up to see it,
and that's great, because it's a terrific movie.
It's emotional, it's funny, it's everything we go to the movies for. It's exciting. Brad Pitt's a movie star. He's great
in the movie. Javier Bardem, Damson Idris, who's going to be a big star off of this movie.
It's real. Brad and Damson trained for four months to be able to drive these cars. They started in an
open wheel car, then a road car,
then they went to an F4 car, then an F3 and F2,
and then they got an R car, which is,
they were doing over 180 miles an hour on the straights,
breaking it down into 50.
When you watch the movie and you see them in the car,
it's actually them driving.
The other thing, Apple, who financed the movie,
took two of their iPhone
cameras and
Enhanced it so you could do IMAX and put it in two cars in every race in the actual f1 races
So some of those point of views they're going 220 miles an hour
But that's we know how to do that really well, but it's the emotional story they get you and that's why women love the movie
It's funny and you want that kind of experience.
It's exciting. It really envelops you.
It's really something you've got to see in a theater,
and the bigger the screen, the better.
Would you be kind enough to give us all the times
and the names of movies that you've tried to get Brad Pitt
to do for you that he has refused to do for you before this one?
I think this is the first one to be honest with you.
He's one of those working actors. He's always busy.
And we have this thing where when we have a script we want to make it, we want to
make it. And so we go after actors who are actually available.
But this is the first time that he's said yes. What has he said no to of yours?
He hasn't. We haven't given him anything else. So this is it.
Okay, so you hadn't been trying to work
with Brad Pitt before this?
We'd love to have, but he just was never available
when we needed him.
I mean, he's one of those actors who actually works.
He goes from one movie to the next, which is great.
We want those kind of actors.
Some actors take time off in between movies,
and those are the actors we can attach quickly. This movie is impossible to make without F1's assistance correct?
Literally impossible you cannot make it. Correct, correct. So it took us a year to
get F1 and all the teams to come and join us and F1 is a really interesting
sport. There are 10 teams, two drivers to each team, and it's the only sport
where your teammate is your competitor because every driver wants to be the number one driver
on their team. And that makes drama for us, and that's what we base the story on. But the other
teams didn't realize that. So Red Bull, Mercedes built our car, and Red Bull and Mercedes were
having this real duel in the season we were filming, and Red Bull was for sure going to be the villain in
their minds. That took a year to get them to calm down and say not true it's
between our two drivers and we had a screening in Monaco about three or four
weeks ago and showed it to all the drivers and they were very excited about
it. They said it's the first time they've seen a movie where it actually
actually feel how it looks
when you're in a car like that.
You did Days of Thunder 35 years ago.
Can you explain to us the differences
between the cars then and the cars now,
the differences between making that movie
and making this one?
Well, it's the technology that's changed so much.
We had 15 camera positions on our car.
We used four at a time.
The cameras are tiny now.
We had everything hidden in the car.
All we had was basically the lens in the car
and around the car.
So that's changed.
We had a camera that remotely panned,
which we couldn't do years ago.
We put antennas all around the track
and the camera pans from our driver to the car passing him
or him passing another car.
That makes it even more immersive and exciting.
Jerry, when one of your movies is done, it's wrapped,
how do you watch it for the first time?
What's that process like for you?
It's sitting on pins and needles.
You're scared to death.
You have no idea what you're going to see.
And usually you're terribly depressed because the movies are usually way too long.
And it doesn't have a point of view.
It takes, you know, months to you hone it down and get it to something that you're really
proud of.
Can you confirm that a Days of Thunder sequel is in the works?
It is in the works.
We are talking to various writers
and talking to Tom and McHugh, who works with Tom,
and we're also working on another Top Gun, which is
actually being written right now.
OK, so you've got two Tom Cruise projects that
are as solid as can be?
Well, nothing's solid in our business
until it's in the theaters.
So you hope you get there.
Now, you're not talking about Tom Cruise with Brad Pitt
in a Days of Thunder sequel, right?
It's just Tom Cruise.
Correct.
Correct.
That would be wild if we could do that.
But that would be really difficult to get
those deals done.
What else can you tell us about a Days of Thunder
sequel that would get people excited?
Not yet. I mean, we're a little bit of ways to get you really excited. All I know is
Tom can't wait to get in that car again and he sees all the technology that we used in F1 and
that even amps his excitement. Do you have an obsession of some sort with speed or racing?
On the screen, yes, but not personally but not personally not a very good driver myself
So I have to rely on other people what people they asked me Jerry. Did you get in that car?
I said, are you kidding me? They mold the seat to your body an f2 driver
Takes a week to figure out how to drive an f1 car. That's how complicated they are sequel
Why is it that you are someone who likes the idea of speed on the big screen?
I think it excites people. I think people love it. It's exhilarating. It's something
that we all love. We all like, most of us, most guys like fast cars and look at, I can't
wait for audience to see this movie because it's something that makes you feel better
when you walk out of the theater.
It's a great ride.
Are you old school like Scorsese and you say,
it is not a film unless I see it in a movie theater.
A film is not something that is streamed.
Look, I love making movies for theaters
because I think it's great.
We all have kitchens in our homes,
but we all like to go out to eat,
because you want to experience something good.
But I do both.
We do streaming movies and we do big theatrical movies.
Some movies really don't deserve to be
or shouldn't be in a theater.
It's better to have them on a small screen at home.
This has to be on a big screen.
It does.
And that's why we made it with Apple.
They guaranteed us it would be in the theaters as long as people were showing up. It's going to be on a big screen. It does. And that's why we made it with Apple. They guaranteed us it would be in the theaters
as long as people were showing up, it's gonna be there.
And so far, they, you know,
we're the number one movie in the world right now.
Jerry, how long did it take to make Top Gun Maverick
from like the start of conversation,
hey, we have an idea,
maybe there's a start of a script out there
to actually finishing the project?
Well, it's 35 years since the first ones,
we weren't very good at it.
But I think finally when we really locked in
and had a story and Joe Kaczynski,
who directed Top Gun Maverick and also directed F1,
kind of came in with a really good idea for a story.
From that point on, I think it was about three years.
What is the most wrong Jerry Bruckheimer has ever been
about what he thought a movie was
going to be versus what it ended up being? I'll tell you what, I always expect the worst and hope
for the best. So I'm never really wrong because if they don't work, you know, that's what I thought.
But fortunately for me, I've had a lot of pictures that have worked. How much tinkering do you do
after a movie is allegedly complete?
Because like Top Gun, for example,
was supposed to come out in 2020,
then because of COVID,
it didn't come out for like two years later.
So did you leave it as it was for those two years?
Or did you say, you know what, I can adjust this,
I can adjust that, and it just kind of drove you crazy
with just tinkering over those years?
No, it was about a year.
We finished the movie and we put it on the shelf for a year.
Nobody touched it.
We knew we had a really good movie.
We tested it, it tested really high.
We're just waiting for the pandemic to get away from us.
How did you come upon this life principle
of I'm going to expect the worst every single time,
therefore I won't be disappointed?
I love it.
I think that you never know, like I won't be disappointed. I love it. I think that you never, like I said,
you never know what you got.
You really don't.
When an audience looks at it,
and I've been shocked too.
I've done movies where audiences go nuts
and nobody shows up.
So you don't know.
I've made movies where we tested the movie
and there were four people in the audience left.
And then we worked on it for a year and became a hit.
You just don't know.
You just gotta keep working them and beating them
until you get something you feel is gonna be
something audiences wanna sit through.
So take us through the shock of one of these times then.
Name one of the movies where you just were despondent
about this is simply not going to work
and then all of a sudden it's in theaters
and you're like, I can't believe it.
This is so much better than I thought. We think Dangerous
Minds with Michelle Pfeiffer we made that movie and I'm telling we previewed
and there was there was nobody left in the theater and we like we worked on it
for a year made some big changes found this song by Coolio Gangster's Paradise
and put it everywhere in the movie and that just amped it up and it became a
sizable hit.
Have you ever had the reverse happen?
Have you ever dared to be positive and have giant expectations
and then you're despondent because it's a big mountain of poop?
No, I'll tell you, there are movies that we've made that have tested really highly,
but don't find an audience, but they'll find an audience on streaming.
We did a movie with Daisy Ridley, Young Woman in the Sea,
which tested really high, and we put it out in some theaters
and people weren't interested in watching a movie
about the first American to swim the English Channel,
or the first woman to swim the English Channel.
But on streaming, it's very successful.
In 2009, you produced a movie called G-Force,
and for those who don't remember,
the premise is a specially trained squad of guinea pigs is dispatched to stop a diabolical billionaire
from taking over the world.
That's good.
What were the expectations for that?
It was a kids movie and the expectations weren't as high as when you make a movie like F1 or
Days of Thunder so it did well for what it was and it's's a success for Disney, because kids watch it,
they'll keep watching it forever.
Is there a director that Jerry Bruckheimer would be willing to admit publicly, that person's
work and talent is something that I envy?
Well, I think most of the people that I work with, I mean, Chris Nolan, Scorsese, there's
so many Spielberg, there's so many great directors that you would love to work with. But again, they're busy all the time, too, so it's hard to wrangle them.
Joe Kaczynski, we're very fortunate because he did an amazing job on Top Gun,
and then he comes back and makes a big hit movie out of F1.
So that's... It was his idea. It was his story.
And he really... What brought it together is, once he had the idea,
he had met
Lewis Hamilton because Lewis wanted to be in Top Gun and when Joe met with him he Joe said well We need you for three months and and Lewis said hey, I got a day job
I can't do that so he joined us and to produce the movie so when we had Lewis
Joe went to to Brad and
We had Lewis Joe went to to Brad and
Brad said yes because of the team we had we had a good story with same writer Aaron Krueger We did Top Gun and then we had Lewis Hamilton to make sure we were honest and could make a really serious
Racing movie that wouldn't embarrass the sport or embarrass him and look at it the the kind of
Technology and the things that we did that Lewis was
involved in. I'll give you an example. We were in Silverstone. We're going into turn
five, right? And he's watching what we're filming. And he said, wait a second, the sound's
wrong. You're in gear three. I'd be in gear two. So we make changes. He said, in turn
five, you can't pass on turn five. If you do, you'll have an accident. We used that.
We had an accident on turn five. I mean,, you'll have an accident. We used that, we had an accident on turn five.
I mean, all those little things,
we tried to be honest through the sport,
but you know what, it's not a documentary.
So what the things that Brad does in the movie,
a driver might do over two or three seasons,
we'll do it in one race.
What did Lewis Hamilton wanna do in Top Gun?
I guess he wanted to be one of the pilots.
Wow. Jerry, which one of your
films for pleasure have you seen the most? You know what, once they're in the theaters,
I never look at them again. Out of the theaters, I never look at them again. And I'll tell
you why. Because I look at them and I say, oh, we should have changed this, we should
have changed that. And you can't change them. So once they're, what I love doing is like,
I'll go tonight or tomorrow to the theater
and stand back there and watch the audience really enjoy it. That's what I really love.
That's my satisfaction. Obviously I've made enough money but it's entertaining audiences getting into
a moat, watch them applaud, watch them laugh, see tears in their eyes. I've won, if we get that.
And we're getting this on F1.
It's a family movie, it's for everybody.
When you do that, do you buy a ticket
or you tell the ticket taker, hey, I'm Jerry Bruckheimer?
Yeah, that's what I do.
I go in and say, I just wanna stand in the back,
I'm not gonna take a seat.
But do you say, I'm Jerry Bruckheimer
or do you pay for a ticket?
I don't pay for a ticket.
Wow.
Power move. What do you? I don't pay for a ticket. Wow. Power move.
What do you, what do you?
I should, from now on I should.
Support the industry, Jerry.
You made enough, Jerry.
You're a billionaire.
If I ask you, and I know this isn't fair,
but you have to pick one that you regard,
one movie, not your favorite,
but that you regard as the source of your greatest pride,
and that answer can take you anywhere. Are you able
to do that? Are you able to summon just one?
Yeah, it's always the next one.
It's a good answer. You're insatiable. Does that get in the way of joy?
Look at I enjoy everything that we do. Some of them don't work and I enjoy them too. Maybe
an audience doesn't like them, but I love them. I love the process. I love making movies.
I love entertaining audiences.
And that's why I do it.
I do it for the thrill of watching people line up
and have a blast doing what we do.
Take them away from the world we're living in
and give them two hours or two and a half hours of real joy.
I'm in the transportation business.
I transport you to another place, another time.
And in F1, we're giving you an inside look into a world
that you'll never be a part of or maybe never be a part of.
It's a process movie.
We did that with CSI and television.
We've done it.
I did it with Black Hawk Down.
I do it a lot.
I love those kind of movies.
I also like making sports movies where I did Remember the Titans and Glory Road. People that should be remembered that
won't be remembered unless we make a film about them. And I mean they
thanked me after. Same thing with Black Hawk Down. All those those 18 soldiers,
their parents came up to me and said thank you so much for making this movie.
My sons will never be forgotten. I loved Remember the Titans. That ending was ridiculous.
It ends around 80 yards.
No way that state champion coach is going to get fooled by that play at the end, Jerry.
That's not something that's going to... That play's not going to fool him for 80 yards.
You may feel like you've already answered this question. We've got less than a minute
left, but what do you love most about making movies it may be what you're talking about the joy of others and what is the most frustrating
thing in the industry about making movies right now? The fact that we can't
shoot as many movies in this country as we'd like to because you know it gets
such great tax credits elsewhere much rather stay in the states obviously
couldn't have with F1 because we traveled to to ten different tracks
around the world but we got to 10 different tracks around the world.
But we got to do it twice, which was great.
I feel like you need to go ahead and clear your throat.
You fought through it.
You powered through it and I'm proud of you.
I did, thank you.
It was very strong.
Great job, Eddie.
Yes, and you love most about the movies.
30 seconds are left, so we get you out on time.
The thing that you love most?
Watching an audience enjoy what we do, that's it.
Jerry, we enjoyed doing this with you. Thank you for the time. F1 the movie, another number one movie here and
all around the world. Thank you Jerry for being on with us. Appreciate it. Thank
you for having me. Really. Thank you Jerry. Billy, Billy, you tried, you tried to bother
Jerry. I would never. I don't want to bother Jerry. You don't want to bother Jerry. I don't want to bother Jerry. No one wants to bother Jerry.
Listen, Jerry, I didn't ask her about kangaroo jack.
OK?
You could.
It was a hit.
I enjoyed it.
I loved it.
Rotten Tomatoes had another thing.
I also have a bone to pick with Jerry.
It doesn't matter.
Kids loved it.
It made money.
He's got to go.
He's got to go, Billy.
I have a bone to pick with Jerry.
He's responsible for all of these great moments and joys
in my life, but also I applied for Amazing Race,
and they said no, and it crushed me because it was the day after my you can always come back
You know what? I'm gonna tell them next interview that Jerry said that I'm in what do you think?
You know what? It might have been the person you were gonna go do it with. Well, she's my wife
I hope it's not that she's a day after we got married Jerry between our wedding and our honeymoon
We said you know what we need to make time for amazing race here an audition. He's gotta go
You rejected our love Jerry you rejected my love We were at our wedding and our honeymoon and we said, you know what, we need to make time for Amazing Race here on audition. He's gotta go. They rejected us. He's gotta go.
You rejected our love, Jerry.
You rejected my love.
We make mistakes all the time.
Okay, I accept your apology.
He is the rejecter of love.
He is Jerry Bruckheimer
and he has officially apologized to Billy Gill.
Thank you, Jerry.
Thanks, Billy.
Thanks, guys.
Appreciate it.
F2.
Good question. F you.
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