The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers Enigma And Tony's Nestling

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

After John Amaechi's 'Chiddy Chiddy Bang Bang' reference, Tony comes really close to reading as he shoots to explain the movie to us. Then we check in with Rose again at our Toy Drive and she presents a challenge to our listeners that could lead to her skydiving, which hurtles us into a discussion about the time Tony went skydiving and had to succumb to an instructor the size of Ethan, who joins us for a hilarious demonstration. Plus, Meech has beef with Elon Musk, we revisit Amin's jumpshot that makes Meech sick, Mike Ryan is scared of Dirk Nowitzki and we further explore the Aaron Rodgers docuseries on Netflix. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the Dan Leventhal Show with the Stugatz Podcast. This episode of the Dan Leventhal Show with Stugatz is presented by Venmo. I was just laughing with Meach during the break making fun of him about his chitty-chitty bang bang reference. The Tart Show with Stu Gatz is presented by Venmo. I was just laughing with Meach during the break, making fun of him about his Chitty Chitty Bang Bang reference. Tony, please get me all information

you can on my old friend, emphasis on old, referencing Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. So Chitty Chitty, I've never seen the movie. I've heard the reference to Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, but I didn't really know what it was. And apparently, this is the synopsis of the the story so I can read it so I can see like what what the movie's about obviously when uh a poor guy named Caracactus Potts Caracatus Caracatus okay Caracatus Potts it says it says cactus at the end and an eccentric

inventor who barely has enough money to keep a roof over his two kids' heads that we're tracking so far, Meech? 100%. Buys a car that's a beat-up motor car and transforms it into a dream machine that can fly, float, and it seems to even think for itself. Correct.

OK, so we're at the day at the seashore with the car, which is called Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, spawns an elaborate adventure in the land of Bulgaria as the pots clan and Candy heiress truly scrumptious Okay Tries to rescue grandpa pots from his kidnappers Baron and Baroness bomb burst Right. All right. So pretty close He mentioned the pretty close to reading I mean pretty the the creepy child catcher, which is what he referenced to Stephen A Smith,

entices young Jeremy and Jemima Potts with Lollipops. This one is tough. I put you in a bad spot. It's a lot of names. Yeah, a lot of names. Look, I'm trying to keep up in the modern age and this is what we've got to do. Chitty-chitty-bang-bang. What year is this? Look, I'm trying to keep up in the modern age, and this is what we've got to do. Chitty-chitty-bang-bang, we ride it into the sky.

We ride it into the sky in order to get young people. The reason he brought up chitty-chitty-bang-bang, again, during the break, while I was just really grateful in general for this man's friendship as we celebrate 20 years, all of us together, he's special. Special. He's so special. That makes it worse now. He makes the show better every, he's special. Special. He's so special. That makes it worse now.

He makes the show better every time he's here and he's always done that for many, many, many years. But he's old. That's how you do that for many, many years. And he mentioned Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. And during the break, he was still creeped out by Stephen A. Smith and he was doing, he was just, I don't know what was happening, and he was doing, he was just,

I don't know what was happening, but he was describing the whole thing as sticky. Well, where was the lie? It is sticky, right? But he was spitting facts. I know, but I don't know how, see, this is the thing about straight men broadly. I don't understand why anybody who's a straight man

would imagine that speaking this way would make women think, oh yeah, that's what I want. Somebody who looks at me like I'm a super creep. I don't, I'm just talking to the boys. Yeah, he's talking to the guys, that's what it is. He's not talking to women, he's talking to the boys. Yeah, in a world where women exist. The other part of Nexus too close, like not the lady part.

Yeah, and also, yeah, just sticky, man. And the way he moved his fingers while he was talking about it, it's like, god, women aren't chicken wings. Like the Baron. Like, man, what I liked about that clip is I felt like he was letting me inside. Ooh. That's why he whispered.

That's why he whispered. Yeah, see, yeah, this is that thing. You talk to each other in a way that is really unusual. You know he's a performer, right? He's running bit there. He is a performer. He is a character. That's like being like, he's a performer, right? Like he's running bit there. He is a performer. He is a character. That's like being like, wow, Tom Cruise,

did you really have to flex while checking your watch during that awesome volleyball scene in Top Con? Oh, the form looked great. This is the thing. I actually just had this conversation yesterday. I mean, Ricky sent me a note on what is the appeal of Stephen A. Smith, and my answer was, he's the best professional wrestler

anywhere in sports television. Like it used to be Cosell, but it's very much a professional wrestler. It doesn't even mean that he doesn't believe what it is that he's saying, because he does believe what he's saying. Does he believe what he's saying? Yeah, I don't think that part's an act at all.

I do not believe that Stephen A. Smith is bluffing on what he thinks. I just think he's turning up the volume to the maximum professional wrestler level that there is to beat all the other people who are coming for the throne of the king of this business. Dan, you said Ricky texted you that? Is that Ricky Martinez? Yeah. Who gave the gift yesterday? Was it Rudy? Was gave the gift yesterday? It was Rudy.

Was it Rudy's brother? No, it was Ricky Williams. I'm sorry I didn't make that clarification. But that- A lot of Ricky's out there in Miami. Yes, that's true, that is. And that was a really inside joke. You just did a call back on yesterday's gifts

that one of them came from Rudy Martinez and I couldn't read it because I didn't have my glasses on it. Like why would you guys decide to go that inside on the joke? Any particular reason that you would do that? Like that inside. Well you're referencing something from yesterday.

I'm guessing very few people got your Rudy Martinez joke. Not that it's not okay to make a joke for four and five people around here. Well I just felt, because it was yesterday, that like it wasn't that inside. Now if it was a month later, then no one remembers that. But it's still fresh in the minds of the listeners. All right.

Thank you for your contributions. It's first to talk. Playing Hurt, yes. I'm pretty sure I recognize one of the toys that Rose has there from yesterday's rip wrapping bit. That is actually the present that Greg Cote tried to wrap. All right, let's check in again with Rose here at the Toy Drive at Dolphin Mall.

We're stirring her to life. Her beard is not working very well. We continue to collect toys on behalf of branches. Rose, how is everything going out there? What can you update us on? What can you tell us about how the Toy Drive is going now? On its final day around Miami, but we'll still be collecting every day seven to two here at the Elser Hotel the coffee house downstairs you can bring your toys

they're collecting them coffee corner excuse me Rose how's it going at Dolphin Mall? It's going great look at all these toys I got they're surrounding me and I hope I get more so I get drowning toys Okay, but it looks like I don't know if you see yeah, one of those toys looks like it was from yesterday though It looks that Build your coffee. Okay, be careful Rose Rose. Don't ruin the six toys you have that Rose. Come on Rose Rose Santa has to get all right I'm glad we checked in with Rose we'll check in again one more time before the end of

the show thank you for your contribution Santa I don't know she does have it right I have one more contribution okay if you donate more toys I'll do any challenge you want no no Okay great idea yeah, this is what I mean what a strange way to say I just really want to skydive Yeah, well you know what I kind of want to see She I'll buy the toy you're skydiving. Thank you I think there are liability issues there. We gotta be careful. We gotta learn from the pepper. Tony did it once. Uh, I also think, uh, it was amazing by the way. I heard the head on the shoulder thing. That guy told me Mitch, if a guy tells you, okay, let me,

let me put you through the scenario Mitch. You wouldn't be able to skydive. I'm very sorry, but that's just the rules. That's the name of the game, you know? So you get on this tiny plane, right? And obviously you know me, I'm very sorry, but that's just the rules. I don't know name the game You know so you get on this tiny plane right and obviously you know me a big guy So it's kind of tight in that tiny plane You have to sit like on a already disputing the first part of this but go on before a tiny plane is what I'm so Okay, yes for a tiny relative to a tiny plane exactly So you have to sit on a bench right and then you kind of swivel up as You move forward as people start jumping out of the plane

There's a guy who is attached to me obviously cuz I'm not jumping by myself who's like I'm trying to give a good comp like Ethan. Have you seen Ethan outside? He weighs about like he's about 5'6". He's a spider monkey. About 103 pounds. Howler monkey. So I've got this guy on my back and I'm like, how are you gonna help me do anything? Cuz it's a little you know, I need to be able to make things happen. So he tells me in broken English, hey, when we're about to jump out of the plane, make sure that you put your neck back because if you go out, your neck can snap off. It's the last thing

I want is to die, you know, 25,000 feet up in the air. So if I may, by the way, Mitch, one of the things that you need to know here is that in video that we are filibustering in order to find, I will simply tell you that Tony, who prides himself on Cuban machismo, simply surrenders. There was some succumbing. I would say nestles. Okay, I don't know which one's the best of these. Nestling is excellent, where is the video? We're trying to find it.

He's stretching the story in order to get to the video because we kind of sprung this on Lewis But it's a great, this is a great callback as opposed to Rudy Martinez. This right here is a playground for me because to present this to me, Meach is going to howl with laughter at Tony, this man who would back down Meach. Tony who thinks he would back down Meach in the post. Well, no, Meach couldn't back me down. Right, and that Meach, 6'10", what did you weigh in your playing days at what body fat? 275, not much body fat.

Okay, and so this person will enjoy watching video of you surrendering yourself over to a spider monkey who at that point your fear was such he could have done anything he wanted to you and you would have succumbed. But again Dan you're looking down at 20,000 feet of just air and you're hoping that this guy who is small and frail can be able to do the things necessary. You're trusting him with your life. I'm trusting a guy I met 30 seconds ago that's just strapped to my back now size of Ethan exactly the size of Ethan so can we bring Ethan here by the way he's back like Ethan is this universal measure no he I mean he was

the the talk of the town yesterday at Brightside. I don't know what we're talking about. What I would love, and I don't know if we can slap all of these things together, but there is a lot I want to do with my old friend Meach. One of them is this Calm app thing. I don't know how we combine all the things to calm you before you skydive, but at some point here I'd like you doing a segment with Ethan strapped to your back. Like I'd like to see what that looks like and sounds like

as you and Amin talk about whatever it is that Amin was trying to bring up here. I was just saying that, well there it is. That ladies and gentlemen is an Ethan. That's the size of one Ethan. So we described the skydiving instructor. Put your feet up so we get a real sense of this. Are you actually on the ground?

Yeah, he's tiny. Again, a howler monkey, a spider monkey, come on. Get on his back. There you go. That was way too easy. So imagine, I'm here like this, right? I'm scooting through this tiny plane where I have to be like this. Right? So I'm scooting through, scooting through. All of a sudden he tells me, hey listen, to make sure.

Come on, Ethan. Come on here, dude. Just like whisper in his ear. Like pretend you're whispering in his ear. Now, I have, if I may, and this is a very well produced show, Come on, Ethan. Come on here, dude. Just like whisper in his ear. Like, pretend you're whispering in his ear. Now, I have, if I may, and this is a very well produced show, but I can tell you, video has told me, they've just radioed in, we have the actual video. Do you guys want to go with the recreation? I'm having fun right now.

No, no, no, continue. Continue. Continue. Okay, so, he tells me, listen, you're gonna look out that side of the plane. There's gonna be 15,000 feet of just air. Make sure that you nestle your neck back into the part of the neck, the nape, right, to make sure that your head doesn't snap forward. And then something happens, you pass out or worse.

And when I hear or worse, I'm like, OK, man, I've got to figure it out. So as my legs are dangling outside of this tiny plane I do what I was told to do you nestled I went like this and just nestled into the back of the beach it's more of like a here's the video for for me you will see it yourself me ago please tell us if we over oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah your hair from the back dog yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah He took you. I've seen a lot of videos like this. They didn't end this way, but. Um. Um.

Um. Um. Um. That is cute though. This is what is happening in the studio, cute. What is happening there, cute. You can see how I had to just listen to what the instructor was saying.

You know? Sometimes it's easy if you just do as you're told. One more time, a little nestle here. Let's see it one more time here. Let's see this one more time. And nestle. I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you, there is no, that's not nestling.

That is control. Yes, surrender. Meach, I wanna see you 20,000 feet up in the air and see what you do. Listen, I'd do exactly as I'm told, but I'd be less chillish about it. Exactly right, thank you, sir. All right, thank you, Ethan.

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Brought to you by Headquarter Toyota. 441 Powerline Road. Second down to nine. This is the Don Lebatar show with the StuGards. There are a number of other things that we need to get to with Meach including Stump the Meach. And I do want to get his thoughts because I don't want to waste all of his time with the silliness. You're having quite the beef publicly with Elon Musk and then the internet after that.

You don't mind your challenges like this, so you want to explain to us. I have not talked to you about any of this, but I imagine that you are just generally appalled by the way that haves are accruing more and more power and disparity from have nots and they will soon rule or ruin the world because they have all of the power.

What is the nature of your beef with Elon Musk? I think it's fair to say it can't be a beef because I think beefs have to be two sided and I don't think he knows I exist. So I simply, I don't like bullies and I don't think he knows I exist so I simply I Don't like bullies and I don't like hypocrites and he embodies both of those things. I don't like grifters People who who would sell? Snake oil to people who don't need it

I don't like people who on the one hand talk about themselves as being self-made and the other hand never make anything. He's a cuckoo and I keep saying this because it's important that we recognize he's a cuckoo. He implants himself in another person's organization and then insinuates finds a way to make him the owner of that organization and then finds a way legally to be called the founder of that organization.

He's not the founder of Tesla. The two gentlemen who founded Tesla not the founder of Tesla. The two gentlemen who founded Tesla are the founders of Tesla. He simply had a legal agreement with them when they left. He would be able to call themselves founder. That's it. So he's contrived this position and he doesn't do anything

unless he knows he's gonna get something back for it. And now he's talking about involving himself in British politics by supporting the far right in Britain. And so I take offense at that. If he wants to screw up America, I'm not here for that either. I don't think that people will benefit from his presence in politics. But I certainly don't want him involved in British politics. And so I've been telling people, I think I think he is a capricious, cruel, deviant man who wants without need and is insatiable. He'll never have enough. He'll never have those moments of clarity that most of us have. Those moments where we look back with some form of shame when we see the trail of destruction that we've wrought either with our actions or our lack of action, he'll never have those moments

and so he's going to be dangerous until the day he dies. I want another angle of Tony surrendering and I'm telling the video team while Meach talks that they need to immediately get me another and a better angle. Well yes, because the surrender, the grabbing of the forehead, all of these things are not quite as clear in the video we saw as the one we're about to show because the one I've seen is a better one than the one that we just saw but we were in a bit of a rush which allows me based on the forehead trigger I just had I wanted to ask you guys something. Matthew Kugler the producer of South Beach S, he's done an excellent job with it recently.

Thank you, Dan. Fake Matthew Coogler, that's excellent. It would help if anyone knew that he was a soft talker. Again, and mine was too deep a cut. No, I'm not, look, I'm objecting to his as well. I'm objecting to his as well. His was no better, his was just made to Mike. Mike and Tony are the only ones who got that joke.

It was a great joke. I was here for both shows. Roy might have gotten that joke. I did. Okay, that's it That's the group that no one else got that joke. It was a joke for three in that room No one else knows that Matthew Kugler is a soft talker. Can't hear him. Now the world knows. Now everybody knows But I want to ask you guys a question because I said this to him and he got really offended and the thing that made Me think of it is just what we were talking about this coming and at the holiday party he was offended with me because I said to him you look like somebody who would have been in a 1950s barbershop quartet that's so

great call with the head on right no and not yes with the hat on but he said no, what is that supposed to mean? And then this is where he got offended It's the forehead and Then he and then he held his forehead and he got the real shame and he's like, why would you say that? Yes, like and I'm like, no, it's everybody's got a forehead There's nothing wrong with you having a forehead your brother. Oh What are you doing? He's not gonna like oh, no, don't do that to him. He's not gonna like this But it's not everyone's got four heads I went I did I did a Google search, and I'm showing him Barber Shop Quartet, and everyone's got a forehead.

Everybody's got foreheads. Every single person, they all had one. I'm like, what's offensive about that? How have I hurt your feelings? What are you insecure about? We all have one of those. Yours is no worse. If someone should be worried about that, it's Stephen Hay.

Oh no! Shrapnel. Back to the nestling. Okay, let's see this video now. Let's see what, no, that's not the video. The best of, I love that. I didn't want a barbershop quartet. Hold on, I'll send you, it's still on my phone.

I'll send you the one I was looking at because I went through and I'm like, look at all these foreheads. It's just all barbershop quartet foreheads. But let's look at Tony and what can only be described now as succumbing There it is, oh my god John as you can see take me told what to do as you look look down there John Look down there people look like you can't even I'm just being told what to do. Look down there, John. Look down there.

People look like, you can't even see people from there. Houses look like ants. My neck could have been snapped off. He could have spit in your mouth after that. Did he whisper in your ear? You're safe with me. I'm your special. It was too loud, I couldn't hear you.

I've seen, I'm telling you, that is pornographic. That is pornographic. That is pornographic. What kind of porn? Well, I don't know. I just know that he ends up by answering, thank you daddy, that's what's gonna happen. Imagine if you did die and that's your last act. That's what I was, you know?

Imagine. Imagine the show we would've had. Imagine the show we would've had, my neck snaps off, okay. I'm pretty sure, Tone, I don't know this for sure, but I'm pretty sure that our show ends as soon as that liability hits the earth. Not before one last episode airs, a tribute to Tony,

and then we just do what we're doing right now, on loop. On loop. He died doing what he loved. So coming. What he really loved. When are we gonna get together on a call map and on whatever visuals we're going to produce to people because I mean I'd like your expert analysis on this. Tony, I believe to be, even though Tony is a very good basketball player, I believe that

Tony doesn't understand the size and strength of the people in the NBA, and then he will sell, he will tell me some form of I played against Fab Melo, who was very strong as well. But I don't believe that Tony, if he were playing one-on-one with Meach now, would have very much chance to do anything with him in the paint, because I think Tony's underestimating

how strong someone like this is. What would be your front office analysis of what I'm saying? Who gets the ball first? That is the answer. Because if he gets the ball first, he's out of chance, because Meach hasn't played in how long?

A long time. Right, out of shape and everything. Out of his mobile. And Tony's a good shooter, so also he gets to step back and take me out of his comfort zone a little bit true but if he gets the ball first if you never miss you're in great shape rarely do oh but wait a minute there's the rally see this is the because if I told you I never miss you know it'd be a lie but if I tell you I rarely miss all of a sudden it's like, oh wait, he can shoot, hold on.

The thing that happened here, wait a minute though. Now Meach is, I mean, you're coming closer to Tony's side than we were last time we talked about this because Meach was 11-0 is what Meach was saying. But that's assuming that Meach gets the ball first. If he doesn't miss. I'll tell you, Dan, I'll tell you a story. My buddy Andrew Schultz, years and years ago, challenged Jay

Williams. You know what, I made a mistake here, that's not look at me Louie, that's name drop, I don't have name drop on this console, I had to separate, forgive me for that, look at me Louie and name drop. Necessary, because if you just said I had a friend named Andrew, how is he playing Jay Williams, what kind of network does this guy have? I do like the whistling sound of like the cartoon bomb dropping. Coyote? Yeah. Tony with his neck bent backwards falling from the sky. So, Schultz challenged Jay Williams,

and he said, I'll beat you. Jay Williams said, we can play to seven, I'll spot you six. Wow. And I will still beat you. And sure enough, Schultz got the ball first, he missed, and then what I told Schultz it was gonna happen is exactly what happened.

Jay Williams, you think of him, oh, he was a point guard, he's not doing any of that. He's taking your ass to the Williams, you think of him, oh, he was a point guard. He's not doing any of that. He's taking your ass to the block and boom, boom, boom, layup every single time. So he scores six straight points like that. On the seventh one, because he wanted to be disrespectful, he said, step back, and as he's dribbling, he throws the ball off of Andrew's head.

Oh my God. Off the easy. Hard, and the funny thing was, Andrew, after maybe his first or second bucket or whatever, ball off of Andrew's head. Off the easy. Hard. And the funny thing was Andrew after maybe his first or second bucket or whatever totally spent. This is a guy who plays pickup all the time. After two buckets of J Williams' ground and pound he was done. He was like a boxer. He had jelly legs and everything. But throwing the ball off his head woke him up somehow because J catches it perfect rhythm puts up the shot and it rims out. And Andrew grabs the ball and his head, woke him up somehow because Jay catches it, perfect rhythm, puts up the shot and it rims out.

And Andrew grabs the ball and now he's energized. His pride is in there. And he hits him with his signature Hezzy Dribble, puts up a bullshit shot that bounces and bounces and bounces and drops. He ended up winning, but it was not because he could guard or he could beat jay Williams it was because jay Williams had hubris and he wanted to disrespect him on top of John do you have hubris I do not know I didn't have hubris when I played I don't now I have that's just no there's no beef in this

for me it's not a big deal so I think you're in better shape than when this challenge was this is also very true I am in better shape than when we this challenge was issued So also funny funny funny story. I once played pickup ball with John Amici. You don't remember this This was years and years ago at Arizona State. You were right, yeah, yeah, so We played we were on the same team and it was great because I got this NBA player man He's passing the ball. That's great Like I thought you were gonna shoot every time but you didn't you also shot

almost exclusively jump shots yep right but then we were on different teams and so I said this is what we're gonna do we're gonna put you know whatever you gotta put me on the worst offensive player and then I was just hard double every single time and for me it was like this is the pinnacle of like defensiveensive execution and for me too. It was like I just want to get a workout in just run up and down the floor At the time I think I've told you guys before I just couldn't believe the idea that when this man was in the shape of Professional basketball at this size. He would run on the treadmill at a speed of 10.0 for an hour.

Like, and then get off it and not be particularly winded. Like, just be fine. And I'm like, how is that possible that this machine works this way? Dan, this is the old line from airplane. You tried dragging Walton up and down the floor for 48 minutes and then get back to me. He's like, this guy's running around with Shaq

and these guys, you think a 10.0 on the treadmill is real hard? No, but a 10.0 for an hour at this size, but I will say though, as he was talking to you just now, Tony, I heard him groan when he was crossing his legs because his back hurts. That is also true. So, like, I heard the sound, like, hiss out of him just crossing his legs

because his back is hurt. So when you say he's in better shape, I'm not certain because he's on drugs and he's hurting over here because I just heard the sound that came out of him. It was creaking. Never underestimate the ability to turn it on for a short period of time,

even if it means a great deal of pain later on. Let me show you a video of what- This is one of my favorite things. Why don't you remember playing against Amin in pickup ball with Amin as this is your teammate here, that jump shot right there. I want to say this right now. If I'd ever seen that jump shot,

it would have been indelibly burned into my brain. I would remember you to this day if I'd ever seen that jump shot before. I'm assuming for that reason that this must have been some kind of weird anomaly. You were drunk. I don't know what had happened. That's not an anomaly.

But I do know that when I look at that jump shot, it makes me feel uneasy, as if something is wrong in the world. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this was my defense all along. There's no shortage of people that I played basketball with in my life that you know. Some of them NBA players, some of them NBA coaches, some of them are NBA media. Oh, come on. If I ever shot like that, hit him with name drop. I didn't name drop anybody.

There's no names. No names. No names. Does it not make you feel slightly queasy when you watch it, though? No, because I took it and I made it into something even greater. I did. I made a video that went crazy viral.

It's the match of the hands at the end. How does that happen? I don't know. Like that's the whole point. The whole point was, before that shot, Meach, I'd shot three or four from that same spot. Oh, you can't do that. No, no, listen to me.

Let me tell the story, right? All right, all right. Shot, like, this is the fourth or fifth shot from that spot. I'd made all the other ones. The guy who recorded it was like, oh, that's cool, Amina's draining these shots, let me get a video.

The first one I shot after he started recording is that one. And he said, oh, this is even better. Performance anxiety. I didn't know. I didn't know until after the game. This is before the game. I found out after the game, he said, you haven't checked Twitter, have you?

I'm like, no, why, what happened? And I thought it was because there was a turnover late in the game that I made. I was like, yeah, it was a dumb turnover. He's like, oh, it's not about the turnover. I'm like, no, why, what happened? And I thought it was because there was a turnover late in the game that I made. I was like, yeah, it was a dumb turnover. He's like, oh, it's not about the turnover. I'm like, oh, then what is it about? And then I saw that and that's when I realized. Oh my God.

It's about that mad shot right there. Yeah. But how's that behind me? Oh my God. Oh. Oh. That is, it's the twist of the fingers and the two stages as well.

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No, no, you know what? I'm gonna stick up with the audio audience and say that's unnecessary. Let's play Tony again. Let's play some sound here. I wanna know because I think, well with a bad back, maybe not, I don't believe that Tony can withstand what this, even at this age, would feel like backing down.

And it's no slight on Tony. It's just a celebration of the strength of what it takes to get to the top of professional sports. But the thing that I wanted to play from each here, because we're talking about this the last couple of days, I haven't seen it. I started to watch it last night, and I heard my voice in it in the first little bit, and then I turned it off, and I'm like,

hold on a second, honey, and then I'm like, we're gonna watch this together. I wanna watch what this thing is, because Aaron Rodgers, in my lifetime, you have whatever opinion you want to watch what this thing is because Aaron Rogers in my lifetime, there you have whatever opinion you want to have about him, you cannot say he's uninteresting. You're not allowed to say he's uninteresting. You may be tired of him and sick of him, but this story is something that has not been seen in American sports. Someone this great going from televised national insurance salesman

when that league gives you 10 guys who get the endorsement money. 10 guys get to be face of the league for that entire monster sport. He was one of them and was embracing, as I've told you before, going to the apartment of Mina Kimes, let me get out in the public and show them more of myself.

I'm a four time MVP. I've been arguing that that's the best quarterback I've ever seen. I argued it while Tom Brady was winning the titles. Better at that skill than anyone I've ever seen. To see him then short circuit into something that now has a documentary, Enigma, where he keeps claiming he doesn't care what people think, but he keeps going out of his way to show people

that they should think something. Because he wants to be seen, understood, accepted. Yesterday on the show, Billy said, I don't think I'm going to love him. I don't think I'm going to grow in a documentary with more information and access to love him. I think I'm sad for him because he seems empty, seems unhappy, seems like he's searching. But aren't we all? He does so with Ayahuasca, and now he's revealing himself with a story

that I don't think has much precedent in American sports. Someone like this doing this, and now people are like sick of him. I don't want to talk about anti-vax stuff. But here he is still on Disney, still with McAfee after there was a howling a year ago about that's not going to exist anymore. Soon that'll be gone. It's not gone.

There it is, four and ten team, middle of your week on Disney. There's Aaron Rodgers saying, show me your vac status. When I play this sound for you of Ryan Clark because Ryan Clark works at ESPN and there's just a tension around this thing that exists at ESPN that isn't like ESPN and people like Ryan Clark have Disney as the backing but here's Aaron Rodgers every week four and ten not gone. Disney can't get rid of him. Disney couldn't do anything. There he is with McAfee every week. And here's Ryan Clark, you know,

bothered by what it is that Aaron Rodgers is doing on McAfee. Because if we've learned anything from Mina Kimes, you don't actually have to step on the field to be excellent at the job of analyzing football. And I spoke to that hypocrisy because you were getting paid to do that and as far as your vaccination status so you can stop trying to trick people into thinking that we want to talk about that above the stink

of your film I've never heard it one more time after your incident. And the only reason we spoke about it then was because based on your vaccination status, it was going to determine how long you were out. And also, people didn't care that you weren't vaccinated, they cared that you were slimy about it. They cared that you were deceitful. And in analyzing you, what I know is your QBR is 21st. I also know that

you're the quarterback of a 4-10 team who has to win the last three games of the season to even be equal to what last year's team was without you. Now I get it you get on the show and you talk about my broach and you curse and all this tough talk. I just need you to know. Don't none of that scare me. I'm gonna do my job the way I'm supposed to do it. Meach, what are your thoughts in general? I don't know how much attention you're paying to the to Aaron Rodgers.

I don't you don't know you know next to nothing about American football, but I bet you know something about him. Yes a conspiracy theorist and And slightly oddball as far as I can tell but as that that's it. That's all I know he made a bit of news in in the United Kingdom because of Him being outspoken about vaccination, but that's literally all I know. I don't understand I mean, it's one of those things where But that's literally all I know. I don't understand. I mean, it's one of those things where so many sports people get told to shut up and dribble, depending on what it is they want to advocate about. And then you've got people like him, who get to say off the wall stuff that will

kill people. And that's that's a fundamental truth of this. If you talk about the way your new incoming health secretary is talking about polio vaccinations, you're going to get more polio and more people will die. More people will have lives of misery who shouldn't. And I don't think that you should be allowed to do that just because you played sports. There are some things you're not qualified to talk about, and those are one of those things for him. But again, I don't know him. I just... There's so many other things in this world that you could influence with

your power. I don't understand why this would be it. And the idea of self exploration, by the way, is bullshit. Don't self explore while you're doing harm to others. self explore in your own mind in your own house with academics and, and influential and inspirational people that you can pay to be around you. But you don't have to do that while you're experimenting clumsily making other people fall for the same bollocks that you're falling for. That's my problem with it. Have any of you seen Enigma yet? Because I'm looking forward to, to seeing this.

I haven't seen it, but I saw the clip of him on Ayahuasca talking about the caterpillar and the butterfly. Giggling. Made me feel incredibly sad, right? Because this is supposed to be, for some people, an awakening and enlightening experience. For other people, it does a lot of harm, right? It depends on your body chemistry,

on how you react to whatever it is that you're ingesting, that you don't always know exactly what's in there, right? So when you look at him having that experience, like man, that should be not on camera. That should be something for you to experience because you made that decision to do that. Like I don't want to see it. Surrounded by people who love and will care for you,

not surrounded by people who want to exploit this footage to sell a show. It's crazy to me. So this is the part that I'm curious about. Kanye West was pretty much always that person. Now he's gotten way more off the beaten path as time has gone on, but many people who knew him 20 years ago, 25 years ago, like, yep, that's who he's always been. And we just didn't know that mass public, right? Or we didn't get the full grasp of it. Was Aaron Rodgers always like this and we just didn't know? Not in plain sight, not in plain sight.

If he was, he was concealed, the same way he was immunized. If he was wearing a, if he was, if he was this, it was hidden. So like, that's my question though. Like some people change, like legitimately change and unravel or whatever. Did he unravel or was he always like this

and he just had a great facade? So, having read his book, going to Cal, really, I read it with my ears. And so going to Cal, he was brought up very Christian. He had an interesting upbringing and going to Cal really broadened his horizons in that, oh, these other deities, they're good people too. And he started questioning his identity with religion and that led him to questioning

pretty much everything. And as the years went on, as he dated Olivia Munn around that timeframe, he really changed his personality. And it's kind of like a line of demarcation where, yeah, he started, he was able to conceal it publicly for some time. We had him on the show. He would allude to things, never go full bore into them. And then the pandemic hit and it just all unraveled publicly. I wouldn't underestimate the power

of kind of social pressure too. Because some of these people that were wondering, were you always like this or did you hide it? It's not really about that. Sometimes it's more calculated than that. There are things that people talk about now because they know they can talk about them. It is okay to have a conversation with somebody

who can still be seen credible, who thinks that the earth is flat or who thinks that dinosaurs didn't exist or that birds are drones. The social pressure against those people is gone. Whereas I still think that if you talk about those things, you're a little bit of a crackpot. John, I'm curious because again,

like you work with a lot of people in this regard. Do you, like what is the long-term impact of the pandemic? Like, I feel like people change, that thing changed people in a way that I didn't feel impacted. Like it sucked and it was, it was, it was like a boring time and a scary time, but I don't think about it much now.

And I feel like me in 2019 is pretty much the same as me right now. But I feel as I go around, I see these videos of people freaking out on airplanes and just acting a fool in public. I feel like the pandemic changed something in people like on an emotional stability level. Do you experience that or is that just kind of anecdotal?

No, I think there are some, you know, the data is out because not enough time has passed for people to do really good studies on this. But there's a couple of things. One is that the pandemic was amazingly exploited by people who wanted to challenge authority of every kind. So you're talking about people normally in planes when you're told by a who wanted to challenge authority of every kind. So you're talking about people normally in planes when you're told by a flight attendant to do something,

you just do something and you don't kick off because you know there's consequences. Whereas now the very act of violating that authority is empowering for people being thrown off a plane going onto a no fly list puts you in the rarest of air. And there's a group of people who exploited that to try and make people anti-authoritarian and we've seen the impact of that on, frankly, a governmental scale in this country and in Britain. The other side of this is that

one of the defences that a lot of people had against their minds working against them was the presence of other people. Even the meaningless kind of, I'm hanging out after work, catching up and playing softball or whatever people do. That was a defense against you being in your head and your head coming up with some crazy shit that wasn't challenged. But all of a

sudden the pandemic came and a whole bunch of people find themselves alone with their thoughts, perhaps for the first time and and night after night after night, and especially after the moments of, you know, that zoom wine catch-up bullshit that everybody hated after. Once that died down, you suddenly realized it's just me and my thoughts, allowing them to spin and spin. And after a few months, an idea that you would have thought unconscionable, completely ridiculous, became embedded as something that you've always believed. And then you left and you're now suddenly surrounded by people with these very unusual, sometimes dangerous thoughts. I think that's part of it too.

The thing that I wanted to get to here before we check back in with the toy drive, talk to Dirk Nowitzki is because I- Wait, what? We're doing what? We're gonna get back to the toy drive and we're gonna talk to Dirk Nowitzki. He's on the show today? Yes, he's on in a few minutes, yes.

Did you not know that? You're leaving? Okay, this is great. Why didn't you tell me that? Okay, I thought you knew this, I thought everybody knew this, forgive me. Dirk Nowitzki's gonna be on in moments, you're gonna do the same thing with him

that you did with Paul Pierce? Yeah, I'd rather he leave than embarrass us again. With a legend, Dan. No, no, no, this, I actually respect this man, I'm afraid of him, it's just triggering for me. Paul Pierce sucks. Okay, very good, yes. Yes, that was very strong.

You, though, Meach, when I'm seeing, and I gotta get to this toy drive too, because I see that Rose now has more toys than she's laying on the floor, and I gotta get to something, Meach, when I'm seeing, and I gotta get to this toy drive too, because I see that Rose now has more toys than she's laying on the floor. And I gotta get to something, Meach. So we got a lot to get to here before all of this stuff. But when you talk about the stuff that we were talking about with Aaron Rodgers, the pandemic,

and you and Tony feel comfortable enough, and I get it, he's putting it out in public, to be like, man, that seems like an intimate thing. We don't have to see your entire life. You can do that intimately and just keep it to yourself. It seems to me that somehow this person wants desperately to be seen while claiming that he doesn't want desperately to be seen. Like, this documentary, everything that he's doing, he wants in front of you something that's a work of art for you to discern. You cannot tell me that person isn't wanting to be seen when he's going to the apartment of Mina Kimes at the start of all this. Write

the feature story humanizing writer who writes about human beings. Write about me for real. Yeah, I mean he wants to be seen but the same as the bloke who was running with the abs earlier today. What he wants is to be seen a very specific way. And he wants everybody to interpret his run, his body that way. And he would be offended or upset if he was seen a different way, even if that's our right as human beings to witness it. So Aaron Rodgers, he wants to be seen, but he wants to be seen a certain way. Just in the same way, I've met people who are flat earthers, and they want to be taken seriously, even though that is impossible to do with somebody who believes the earth

is flat, because physics wouldn't work. It doesn't change the fact that that's what they want. And so when it doesn't happen, it's incredulous to them. Then it's like, why can't you, it's like it's dehumanizing, instead of just taking it as you can't be taken seriously if you do this. Or if you put this very intimate thing out there, you can't control how people are gonna perceive it. Dirk Nowitzki is next. I don't know if me to play it against him.

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