The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: An All-Encompassing Type of Suck

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

The local Heat reporters are disputing Shams Charania's report about Jimmy Butler, Kendrick Perkins is passing judgement on Shaq and Barkley, Taylor has a new Knicks song, and Pete Fairbanks is the best sound bite in baseball. Then, is it possible to watch a game without blaming someone? And we have JuJu's Thursday Thunder! Plus, Spencer Hall is here to talk Mario Cristobal, Drake, and the Charity Bowl. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Best Western made booking our family beach vacation a breeze, and it felt a little like... Come on kids, back to the hotel room. Life's a trip. Make the most of it at Bust Western. Greatest duos trading cards have arrived at Tim's with two hockey icons on every card. Western. What are the thoughts of the group here? We've got Anthony Chang writing that Jimmy Butler's MRI is scheduled for 330 today for those wondering and Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald is coming after Shams by saying one national insider wants to jump ahead on the story because that's what they

try to do and could ultimately end up right if the MRI breaks in the writer's favor, but the Beat writers are on top of it while there's obvious concern there's no MRI yet and thus no diagnosis yet. Wow, I love spicy Barry. Just taking people out, man. That's why Barry made it to the Elite Eight of the Heat Twitter bracket that Chris Cody showed me today. That did not have Mike Ryan on it, curiously, despite the fact that he told us yesterday he invented Heat Twitter. Got a lot of messages from people saying Mike Ryan

has nothing to do with Heat Twitter. He said what? He claimed to basically invent Heat Twitter, and also me? I think he invented saying Heat in five, too. No, that was me, yeah. Again, though, Barry Jackson is writing and could ultimately end up right if the m r i breaks in the writers favors and now you've got the visual

image of shams being like yes who hate i need this injury to be real uh... i don't think that you are not jeff galooney jimmy butler so that it's real do we think that shams uh... is guessing this stuff wrong and i'm guessing like I don't know this stuff seems this particular one Where you're reporting something before and Most of this information comes from agents, okay I will I don't know if this particular one does but the the the insiders I don't know if this particular one does, but the insiders traffic a great deal

in the information provided by sports agents, which is often very good. But on an injury, I don't very often have someone like Shams being so eager to get ahead that he gets it wrong. In fairness to Shams, he said he is, his report was he's getting an MRI. The speculation is he'll be out for a few weeks.

And that's how you do it. Yeah. And that's how you do it. That's how you do it if you're on the side where you're trying to get there first, is you can kind of hedge with the expectation and it's feared to be and all of those things that come. That doesn't mean that he'll be wrong and he might very well have the information, but I can understand why the local writers

who were getting information probably directly from the team about, hey, this is when this is all scheduled for so it hasn't been done yet, would be saying that's a bit jumpin' the gun. If Barry's mad for Shams being reckless, he would've been mad at me after seeing the replay being like he's fine, he just banged knees. Did you guys do that ever with injuries like that?

Because I always, with these basketball players, there are times where they, not sell stuff, but just, you know, Dwayne Wade was, he would go down and he'd lay there for like five minutes and everyone would be terrified and he'd pop right back up and be fine. Both Mike Schur and Mike Ryan last night were texting about how Jimmy was faking the whole thing.

That's what I mean, so you have to like, you always do that as a fan of like, you're being a doctor, and in the replay, you see the knees bang, so there was no clear like, you know what I mean? Maybe he fell on know what I mean? Yeah so you're just like oh it's just a bang injury he's fine and then he's not so I feel bad because I was right away I was like he's fine don't worry about this. I don't ever do stuff like that because I don't understand how Giannis won the championship the year that he won the championship because my immediate diagnosis from his reaction was he's broken and might not ever play again.

Like that is not gonna be able to come back in a couple of days. I don't know why you would bother doing that except you just want your hope to not ruin the playoffs. Did it last night with my bulls and Alex Caruso, which by the way, another bull on bull injury happening after last week's dunk situation And Andre Drummond twisted his ankle last night Andre Drummond ran into Alex Caruso Caruso would have probably been the person to guard Jimmy Butler in the play-in game tomorrow night now

Both of them are probably gonna be out. What a disaster. That's a win for the Bulls though. Drummond needs to be stopped by the way. What's happening here? That's good analysis. We need to investigate him. What's happening? Even though Caruso is an excellent perimeter defender. He's great. It's very sad.

Yeah, but Stugatz just out there. Stugatz wanted to give you some form of analysis. You have to understand, every sentence that is placed in front of Stugatz is something where he has to have a take on, and so his take there is that Jimmy Butler is better than Alex Caruso. A winning take for Stugatz, indisputably so.

So since you like to have takes on these things, on yesterday's show I began with something that we didn't chew on much after that, which is Kendrick Perkins accused Shaquille O'Neal and Charles Barkley of, on the Michael K. Show, not watching Knicks games at all. He's saying it's obvious they're not watching the Knicks. The only time they're watching the Knicks is when it's on the TNT Game of the Week.

And I will tell you, Stu Gotts, that I don't think a lot of people know what I'm about to say, which is, the single most successful and popular sports studio show in the history of sports studio shows, the generation of players who are Kendrick Perkins are really tired of Barclay and Shaq from on high having all of the weight and power of opinions to

batter today's game even though it's the most popular sports studio show of all time. We're gonna talk to Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson about that because I believe a lot of people, I've heard a lot of players their age who are eager for the sport to be analyzed by others as opposed to the ones who have had the most power, earned the most power for the longest time. It's their job to give opinions on the games they're watching, on the topics within the NBA, and on the state of the game today, as compared to, you know, when it was or what it was when they played. So I have no issue with those guys having... Well, the first sentence you said is important. It's their job. It's their job.

The games they're watching. The part that you said that's important is... Okay. Well, wait. No, Dan, we've had people, myself included, by the way, comment on games they'd never watched, they second off. No and Sugant, you- Throughout the history of time, Dan. You want, you always want people to have the rights that you yourself want to have.

You always fall on the side of why shouldn't they be allowed to not watch the games? And I would argue that in the case of the those two guys they're there to be shack and barkley there you're not paying them necessarily to watch the games you're paying them to be shack and bark barkley but the job tends to be

watch the games kendrick perkins has to watch the games like you saying i'd comment on that people are getting awfully pissed off rightly that have been around women's basketball for a long time right a whole lot of people are getting here now and the only way we can talk about it is ratings and interest in stuff because we haven't been watching the games in the people who have watched the game expect the people who were paid to analyze it to show what the same kind of respect it's in how it is that they talk about it it's not an unfair criticism

kendrick perkins you can say here is going to end up on the losing side of this argument because of how good shack and barkley are in that show is at being shack and barkley but his criticism can also be valid inside of that. There aren't many people who get away with giving analysis on television that's the most powerful platform that can be accused credibly of not watching the games. That platform is powerful because of Charles Barkley, because of Kenny Smith, and because of Ernie Johnson. They built that thing. They provided themselves with the biggest platform in the sport but what is Kendrick Perkins doing? Like I have no idea if he's watched every Nick game what is he taking

attendance? Like honestly... But Stu gots there are a couple of things here one it's often obvious in the analysis and two Shaq and Barclay are really busy with lives with giant lives that might not have them at 60 years old in Barkley's case, devouring NBA league pass on a Tuesday night that he's not working. But you need to watch every single Knick game to come up with the opinion that,

hey, Boston's better, the Knicks aren't gonna go far in the playoffs, they're without Julius Randall. You don't need to watch every Knick to say that that's a little bit of a standout it's not that stood out to said you expect a level of expertise from the people who are analyzing the games you care about and when the discussion points by the general lists are often who's the pressure on more as opposed to the pressure on as opposed to the technical aspects right of

of the sport that make the nix fans around here furious because they say it's obvious in steven a smith's analysis that he's he's being a nix fan publicly but that he's not watching as many of the games as they are like i don't blame people who are listening to analysis that they think is bad or against their team,

demanding that that analysis be informed by facts, research, expertise, or at the bare minimum, can you care enough to watch the games? I don't think that's an unreasonable criticism. Yeah, I mean, Kendrick Perkins feels about these guys the way I feel about Mike Ryan. Like, he comes in here and acts like he knows things about the Heat, but he don't watch any of the games.

So how can you possibly take that analysis seriously, including the people, prominent people on Heat Twitter who reached out yesterday and said, in 14 years, I've never once associated Mike Ryan with Heat Twitter. He invented Heat Twitter, but Dan, may I quickly just suggest we hear from someone who has been watching

a lot of the Knick games, in fact, every Knick game. Some 500 seasons it's been lonely. Now the best player is on our side. Been losing and losing for much too long. Now the best players on our side. Been losing and losing for much too long. But now we're back with New York pride. Jaylen. You've got us on our feet.

Jaylen. We're gonna win the East. Jaylen. Without Randall we're still doing fine. Oh God. Nailed it man. So bad. Could be a song about Jeremy Lin too, we don't know.

Fine. It sounds like Heartline to the End Zone, how bad that was. That means you're gonna have to find Heartline to the end zone. That's exactly why I brought it up. Chris Cody, let's get for the group here. I talked about this briefly the other day because the Rays have a reliever, Stugatz, Pete Fairbanks.

This is another one of those human beings in baseball who throws 102 miles an hour and blows saves and I don't understand how anyone ever makes contact on them. Everyone has one of these in their bullpen now. But Pete Fairbanks was complaining the other day about slippery balls, so I don't know. I don't know whether this is that clip. Which blown save he's reacting to?

This one looks like the one that I saw a week ago. So let's hear what he had to say. He wanted the writer to put in capital letters and underline something. Pete, can you kind of run through what was going on in the ninth inning? Maybe you didn't like some of the balls that were coming in? Yeah, they were horrible.

We marked that down all caps for me. Horrible. No excuse, though. Didn't throw strikes. And that's what happens when you, they were horrible. We marked that down, all caps forming, horrible. No excuse though, didn't throw strikes, and that's what happens when you don't throw strikes, you get punished for it. So I'd love to see those come out of the humidor tomorrow in a little better shape before they get rubbed up, but that's nobody to blame but myself

for not being able to adjust to some of the quality issues. Dry or not smooth, or what was the issue? There was just overall bad. I'm not going to elaborate further than that. They were not uniform from ball to ball. So there's no, I mean, dry, smooth, whatever you want to say. Just non-uniform, didn't feel right. Just make it tough for you to grip

and kind of get the ball where you want it to go? Yeah, stop to throw your slider when the ball goes that way, out of your hand. He wears his hat poorly It's hard to wear a hat like that, what are you shaking your head? No, that's a good move. That's when you've had your hat on for a long time You actually take it off the back and just kind of sit it on top like yeah Yeah, no, that's that's a vet move right there. Yeah, let your head breathe. He has a booger

so does clean Let's play the other sound from Fairbanks. I guess this is from last night. Was it just a matter of command, location, selection, anything specific? No, I thought it generally sucked. I didn't think it was a specific suck. I thought it was like an all-encompassing type of suck So, you know, we're gonna try and rectify that but right now I'm gonna be That's great where is this guy been all around suck Tony if you saw him pitch like it's all elbows and teeth and then something gets spit out at 102 miles an hour That gets hit.

It's just, yes, that somehow doesn't have the command that it needs to and I'm always expecting at the end of Raze Games, well this will be three guys easily out because again, it's a consortium, it's a syndicate of elbows and knees and what gets belched out from the elbows and knees and teeth is 102 miles an hour. He doesn't have a full wind up, he's got like a football throw.

Let's play for that again. For those of you that aren't watching and are just doing this with audio, that pause is coming from a man who has a pompadour of red hair that's disheveled in a way that suggests he's given up three runs and three hits in one inning. Yeah. At Conan O'Brien. Yes, and that pauses him thinking about how to answer this before giving the perfect answer.

Was it just a matter of command, location, selection, anything specific? anything specific. No, I thought it generally sucked. I didn't think it was a specific suck. I thought it was like an all-encompassing type of suck. So, you know, we're gonna try and rectify that, but for right now I'm gonna be pissed about it. Hey listening audience, it's Mike Ryan and you're a sports fan if you're listening to this show, well, that's up for debate. You may not know this, but Game Time is now an authorized ticket marketplace of Major

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not an illusion. It's a heat check. He's on fire. Stugats. Harry Osh, Jalen Bronson. Thumbs up clutch, that's why we won. New York knows you are the best. Not the joke no more. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. ["The Stugats Show Theme"] That's right. It's time for Thursday Thunder and it is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings the crown is yours. Tony.

All right. This parlay was cooked up by the one and only JuJu Gotti for our Thursday Thunder. We will start on the diamond. Yeah, I know you love baseball. We got the San Francisco Giants against the Arizona Diamond backs tonight. 9.45 first pitch. We're going to take the Giants on the money line. Who's pitching? Are they a favorite?

Great question. I don't know. Oh, come on, man. No, no, no, I'm saying I don't know. I don't know who it is, but JuJuuju does which is why he picked the San Francisco Giants Not only that we're gonna we're gonna sprinkle in a little something else. I know it's a pitchers duel though You know how I know that because he took the under second leg of our parlay under Half a run for the first inning pitchers duel. We have Logan Webb versus Ryan Nelson

Logan Webb pitching for the Giants. Logan Webb is nasty. Told you that. I hate betting unders. I know, the worst. It's just the first inning though. You're rooting for nothing to happen though. Well, the reason, and I know that the numbers get a little bit inflated because most people

don't like betting unders, but you do understand why it is that the under is so unappetizing when if there's a lot of scoring early, you're doomed. why it is that the under is so unappetizing when if there's a lot of scoring early, you're doomed. But if you're betting the over and there is no scoring early you can still have a comeback late. Whereas with an under you can be done in the fourth inning and your bet's over.

I hear you Dan, but anytime I take an over it is one nothing in the seventh It's also like if nothing happens, then it's a little treat. It's like, oh well, I watched it and it was boring but I won All right, last leg of the parlay. We're going to hoops. We got the Sacramento Kings against the New Orleans Pelicans No Zion, by the way, so who's got to step up Herbert Jones. We're gonna take them over 11 and a half Put it on the poll please, at Levitard Show, every time you bet the over, is it one nothing in the seventh inning?

At Levitard Show. Also, some people are reacting now to our heat analysis so far, and some people are getting upset and writing in to us. No one deserves blame for the heat loss last night. This is insane. Really? What are you talking about?

You fool! No blame, everybody's gonna talk. This is sports radio. It's an all-encompassing suck. You don't understand, you don't understand. What do you all-encompassing suck. Classic sports radio. You don't understand, you don't understand. What do you mean no one gets blamed? What are we gonna do, come in here

and just steal each other's cupcakes? Like, look at each other and not say anything? This goes against everything I stand for. No, Dan, that's my favorite criticism of the show sometimes is when people are like, they're wrong about this. The actual reality is this very neutral opinion. And I'm like, yeah, but that'd be a pretty boring show. That's why you do what you do and we do what we do.

Exactly. Whoa. Dork. I do think it is fair to say this part, if the star players on both teams are injured, you're going on the road to try and win a road playoff game, your second best player's in foul trouble, that's a hard game to win against a team that's won eight in a row and is probably the second most talented team in the,

or the third most talented team in the East. That is fair, but when you don't win the game, you blame someone. Without your starting back court and leaning on a guy who came back like six games ago. Well, you blame somebody if you're the Miami microphones and you're frustrated by what happened. But if you're Philadelphia,

which was booing in the first quarter and again in the third when Tobias Harris missed a shot. Right. Late in the third, I think, they were booing Tobias Harris. When you're Philadelphia, it is, you mentioned it earlier in the third, I think they were booing Tobias Harris. When you're Philadelphia, it is, you mentioned it earlier in the show here, I know Joel Embiid gets a lot of credit

for always being injured. I know Joel Embiid gets a lot of blame for always being injured. He gets a lot of blame for always being eliminated early when he's out there trying to play in a mask and he's not himself. But at the end of that game, there were two players that

were clearly injured and one of them was more injured he's going in for an MRI today but he was less effective than the other one who was injured and if you're in Philadelphia and you're a haunted franchise that's been dysfunctional for a while you and had been Simmons and that ordeal you can look at what Joe LMB did and said huh nobody deserves blame here perhaps I'd like to give him some credit that at the end of the game he ended up winning the game because the offense was moving through him he was limited and he made both the shots the free throws and the passes to control the end of that game.

What is this credit thing you speak of? What are you talking, and in Philadelphia? Oh, especially in Philadelphia. Get outta here. We all know it was the chicken. Philadelphia ends up putting itself in a position to break the heart of New York and have the easier path when they've got the injured superstar than the one

they would have against Boston? No doubt, but as a Knick fan, I can tell you, I wanted Philadelphia. I didn't want the Heat, I want Embiid, I want him a little banged up, I don't like Tobias Harris, I think the Knicks win that one and five. Nixon five. Comingicks in five?

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You keep mentioning Lou Harris and Lou Williams and Montreal Harris. You keep mentioning. Harold. Harold, excuse me. Stugatz. Nick, thank you so much for being on with us. Really enjoy your work. Thanks for having me.

Have a great day. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. Look at this liberal, rote turd out here doing charitable things for other people. He's in the middle, Stugats, of of his annual charity bowl and he is doing something not everyone is doing in that every donation goes to help new American Pathways and what I'm about to tell you it's a refugee resettlement organization in Atlanta. EDSBScharitybowl.com is where you go. It's really easy actually our audience is very good about this just text text the word Charity Bowl 24.

Charity Bowl and the number 24. Make it one word to the number 91999. Our audience is very good about supporting the causes around here. I think I've made that too complicated. Charity Bowl 24. I just called 911. Charity Bowls. I just called 9-1-1 Charity bold 24 one word. Yes, the text number is 9 1 9 9 9 text charity bowl 24 to 9 1 9 9 9 But of three nines, I have a lot to get to with Spencer or technically, but there's a one after the first one

Yes, all of them have to put one before the number all of this can be easier, I think. But why are you doing this, Spencer? Just explain the cause, please. It is to support refugee resettlement here in Atlanta. If you don't know, the refugees we take in as part of our agreements with our international partners, they end up in American towns and cities. And there are agencies there that are helping them become successful new Americans and get them off to a better start in their new home, our great country, this land, the United States. And Atlanta is one of them. I used to work in that community,

and long ago in a former career that I was not very good at. So this is kind of my way of my apology, just point people to this and say please give them money, which they have for the better part of over a decade. So it's like charity bulls like a bull game. What are we doing with the bulls? Yes. OK. So glad you asked that. You guys are doing this better than I do it. OK. An effective oiled charity fundraising machine. The Levitard Show. What you're going to do is you're going to give an important number, a number that means

something to you in terms of your team, particularly in terms of a rivalry. One of my favorites is to donate, you know, 52-24 or 52-20, which is the score from the 1997 Sugar Bowl when Florida blew out Florida State. Yeah, I got to go a long way back to find a happy number for Florida football but I do it anyway might give 2008 dollars this week in honor of our last ancient national title I'll dust it off for this week that's happy you pick a number that matters to your team and that is what you donate post it publicly rub someone else's nose in it and then hopefully they respond in kind

You should go for some smaller numbers, you know, I mean just you know what that is a valid point It could be 2008 it could be listen You could do a number like I'd like you could do you could even do a middling receivers numbers You got a guy who's got like four hundred and thirty eight yards a four dollar and thirty eight yard donation is as welcome as a four and 38 yards a four dollar and 38 yard donation is as welcome as a four hundred you're basically you're saying make sports jokes and razz your friends and speak the language of sports intimacy where you insult your friends and you do a nice thing for a good cause edsbscharitybowl.com or you just type in the numbers to get this easy nine nine nine and you text the word

one word charity bowl in the number twenty four uh... that could all be easier spencer but thank you for the work that you're doing i want to explain that uh... to the audience here because we did this earlier in the week and i want to bring it to you i want you to tell me what you think this sound is that we're about to play for you. All right Gonna get it one more time That sounds like a goat being shot into space

Yeah, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with goat astronaut a goat being shot into space. He's right. Yeah. I'm going to go with goat astronaut. It is Mike Tyson sprinting. I thought it was Su Gadd saying superfluous. Damn, what was the last time you sprinted? You're over 50 now. I am 55, I'm gonna say I sprinted two years ago.

Okay, it didn't feel good, did it? No, it did not. No, sprinting on the beach, but I did not make that noise. You would have. Well, some- If you've been going as hard as Mike, yeah, you're gonna make a weird noise. Somebody's writing in here,

I was walking down a long, dark hallway and LeBotard show played the Mike Tyson running sound out of nowhere I had a heart attack can you by the way bold move making fun of Mike Tyson for anything if that if I if I don't know for sure that that man isn't behind me I'm on camera and I still don't trust it I'm not saying a damn thing about that man it's hard word one it's hard to explain I think an entire generation of people are going to arrive at 57 year old Mike Tyson see something sad there instead of what you and I see there which is someone to be feared throughout eternity forever absolutely forever if want to look up the

craziest thing in the world, go on YouTube and search Mike Tyson versus Mitch Blood Green. That's right, a boxer named Mitch Blood Green who was at one point, I believe, an actual street gang leader and it's scary because Mike doesn't knock him out. Mike just beats him up and it's worse than a lot of his knockouts because by the third or fourth round you're like I just wish this man would go down for his own safety and his own good because he eats some of the worst shots You will ever hear I didn't say see I said here. They're horrifying I believe that he fought Mitch blood green outside of a haberdashery at 4 a.m. In Harlem

He did it was a data volemma that Walter Barry was in at 4 a.m. in Harlem. He did. He jumped out of a limo that Walter Barry was in. Mm-hmm. Two-part fight. Two-part fight. Once in the ring, once in the street. Yeah. But he's 57. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't care. He could be 75. Reverse it. That man's gonna whoop my butt at any age. Yeah. Make whatever noises you want. Okay. I don't care. I can't believe I can't believe that man is going to lose to a Paul brother. Because there's no way there's no way this fight will be up and up. There's absolutely

no way. And not if he loses. Correct? If no if Tyson loses, it is all fixed. I can't I can't see, have you seen the sparring videos? I know. That's reckless. A lot of people are formulating their takes based off of what they've seen Mike Tyson do and these most recent sparring videos, but I can assure you the odds makers

have kind of investigated this one. And there's a reason why Jake Paul is minus 500. He's minus 500. And you're out here saying microphones that Mike Tyson's going to kill him Is a minus 500 favorite Yeah, it's all mythology fear and it's me ignoring and Spencer ignoring 57 Difference 57 versus a dude that's in his 20s in his athletic pride. He bit a man's ear off

That man is not Mike Tyson. That man is not Mike Tyson. I don't care versus a dude that's in his 20s in his athletic prime. He bit a man's ear off. That man is not Mike Tyson. That man is not Mike Tyson. I don't care. I watched that man take people's heads off as a child. It does not matter. I am going to start a fight in here by pointing out to Spencer Hall

that according to tax documents obtained by USA Today, Miami paid out $22.7 million in total compensation to Mario Cristobal in 2022, the largest single-year payment to an athletics employee at any private university ever on record. Five million per win. Yeah, five million a win. I hope that they made that an ACH deposit and not a check because with his clock management skills, he's never getting to the bank on time. He's just going

to sit there. He's too busy in the portal. It should be noted that that includes the buyout and taxes and the key phrase there is private institution because what Miami is doing right now is actually spending as the public schools do because I guarantee you, if you were to compare that to some of the compensation in the public schools,

it doesn't make quite the aggregate easy story that it's become. Yeah, no, I'm just saying the rumor, by the way, that Miami is a public institution. We're just gonna call it that, just to infuriate them on top of everything else. I'll be like, well, it's part of the Florida's universities, you know, the state system. Come on. Yeah, Mario Cristobal, by the way, perfect example.

They need to keep him on for like 10 years because they will get a national title accidentally. Right. They will Kirby smart this. They will just say, you might be smarter than us. You might coach better. But eventually I will stack say, you might be smarter than us. You might coach better, but eventually I will stack them so high that we can't fail. All right.

And honestly- From your mouth to God's ears, pal. All right. That's it. Just don't fire your guy. Okay? Like say whatever you want. I don't care.

If Mario's listening, okay? You may not be the brightest bulb, okay? But if you stay on long enough, you're gonna draw enough moths. That's how it's going to work. OK? That's a plan, bud. That is a plan. Recruit, become too big to fail.

That's it. Honestly, you want to know what Michigan did like Michigan just kept Harbaugh on. They could have fired him. They could have gone for the next shiny thing. But that man said, I'm going to recruit 310 pound linemen who are mean as hell. And one day we're going to bust through that wall. We might only do it once and then I'll jump ship and go take the Chargers job. But yeah, we're going to do it. That's what Miami should do. That's my approach with Florida. Florida, are we good right now? No. Do I think Billy Napier is a

good coach? No. Is he recruiting pretty well? Yeah. How long am I willing to stick with it? I don't know. How long have I got? I'm probably going to be alive for another 25 years. It'll happen eventually. Just keep him on. Any thoughts? Because your music commentary is usually pretty high end. Any thoughts?

I don't know whether you enter the fray on rap beef or not. Whether you feel comfortable in your position to talk about most recent hip hop beef, or you want to sit that out? No, no, no. I'm messy, so I'll enter the fray. First of all, Drake is boring.

Drake has always been boring. Drake lives and dies off his producers. Drake has never said an interesting thing. Quote me a Drake bar that matters. Not one, not at all. Oh, that's interesting. You have trust issues with women. Oh, wow.

You did it all yourself. That's every Drake song. I did it all for my team and I hate women. That's it. That's his entire like, oover, his entire work. His body of work is just that. I don't find him interesting. Do you want to say he can rap?

Yeah, he can rap. Do I find the character of Drake interesting? Not at all. Does he have good production? Yes. I hope he pays them a lot because they're the reason he's successful. I will never be interested at a Drake like rap beef ever, ever, because he's lost it from step one,

because I don't find him compelling. Is it hilarious that he's currently getting dragged by Rick Ross, a noted fabulist and liar, even on the rap curve of I am lying about the things I am saying about. Yeah, it's awesome. Will it matter? No, no, the kids love Drake. the rap curve of I am lying about the things I am saying about. Yeah, it's awesome. Will it matter? No, no.

The kids love Drake. The kids absolutely love Drake. They will buy whatever he puts out. So none of this will matter. And none of this will be a better diss track than Push A T's on Drake. None. None. Push A T. Push A T. Ended that for me.

I do not know if you can ever construct a better diss track than the one he put out. But for everybody, everyone says that was the end of all of it, that none of those guys can come back from that, but Kendrick Lamar is somebody that I think is universally regarded as, everyone loves good writing. But not everyone loves good writing.

Don't, like, I will tell you this. The teens, the teens do not care about in there. And what I have been heard, what I've been told by both my son and his peers, we don't care for those old wordy rappers. OK, they like that's it. We don't care about them words, which I respect deeply as somebody who kind of is like lyrics are overrated. Like I'm convinced an entire generation of baby boomers and lead poisoning really led to them thinking

Bob Dylan was smart. Yeah, I don't care about words. I don't care about words at all, okay? It's vibes. They want vibe based rappers. It's vibes. I saw Lil Uzi perform at Coachella and he said like seven words the entire time

to his own music. It's just vibes. It's just, listen, they just, they just want a good vibe. Does it go? And I respect that honestly, right? Like I am a Kendrick Lamar fan. I like Kendrick Lamar, but if you come to me and go, yeah, but did you listen to his words?

I'm like, ah, like half the time, maybe. It's gotta have a good beat. It's gotta sound good of my car. It's kind of gonna either want to make me fight or cry. And then if it doesn't do either of those, I'm not real interested. Does he want to sit it out? It's his wheel gonna either want to make me fight or cry and then if it doesn't do either of those I'm not real interested. Does he want to sit it out? It's his wheelhouse man Are your thoughts that Jay Cole shouldn't have sat it out that he I think should always sit it out Jay Cole could sit it up for the next decade. I

Am joining I'm joining fellow sports writer Shay Serrano in the Jay Cole and salmon X. That's a great way to go to sleep You got nothing for him toning it just sounds like a hater respectfully Having an opinion an informed opinion of hate everybody is not an opinion those Guy I like push a T. I do not care for J Cole This is having a stance. If you invoke the word hater, by the way, you've automatically lost because we're no longer arguing on the merits.

I've been shuffled into a bin, a category, as opposed to saying- You sound like a Drake hater. I am 100% a Drake hater. Okay. That's fine. I do not like him. You brought the hater, not me.

I do not find him compelling. What is compelling about Drake? Find me one thing that is compelling about Drake. What story has he told? What beat is immortal? What bar would you drop and go, ooh, that's hard. Ooh, that's good. Nothing.

I just flipped the switch. Flip, flip. Ooh. No one's ever said that. No one's ever done that. He just flipped the flitch. God, I misspoke. He misspoke. He flipped the flitch. Damn it. That's a harder line than any Drake line.

Thank you. Give him credit. He came out and did better writing than Drake or any of his ghost writers. Slip, slip. Again, I will tell you, edsbscharitybold.com is where you go and you can just text as one word. Damn it. One word. That hurts, that hurts, doesn't it? Charity Bowl dot com is where you go and you can just text as one one word That hurts that hurts doesn't it charity? 24 to the number nine one nine nine nine is that one word I wasn't clear

It is one word charity bowl and the number 24 all one word and one more thing Just so that people understand Spencer because you are Somebody who's doing work here that not everybody is doing, and our audience usually does pretty strong in these areas when they believe in the humanity of a cause. Why is this the heartfelt one for you? Because you said you worked with these people, and I'm guessing somewhere in there you saw where help was needed. Absolutely. It's one of those things where these are people who have been through a lot, a tremendous amount. This country is a country of immigrants, and I think one of those things where these are people who have been through a lot, a tremendous amount.

This country is a country of immigrants, and I think one of the most important tenets across any kind of ethos, religion, or belief system is hospitality towards a stranger. That's it. That the first thing that you should say to them is welcome, and you should mean it, and that we should help people who are here because we have the resources to do that. Even if your resources are, by your own estimations, meager that any amount of help or even volunteer work in your community makes an immense difference,

particularly when everyone does it at once. He's a liberal woke hater. He is Spencer Hall, everybody. Thank you. You can also support, it's one of the best podcasts going anywhere, co-host of shut down full cast It is I don't know which one he likes most the the football of Saturdays or the funny that Saturday produces

If you can only have one you only get to choose one for the rest of your life The content that Saturday produces or the games that they produce which one do you get to which one do you choose? Love of football or the love of football a love of funny that Saturdays provide? I will always take the football. I will always take the football because without that there's not much to it He loves it so much to gods and he's doing it the old-fashioned way so few people out there Just love writing about the South and history through football. What a ridiculous path he has taken to caring about this dumb, dumb thing we do on Saturday. Thank you, Spencer.

Thanks, y'all. Baaaaa! Damn it. You slipped a Fitch. I did. He slipped a Fitch. Dude, that's the absolute best. Thank you. Better than any Drake lyric. Bet, bet, that's the absolute best. Thank you.

Better than any Drake lyric. It's a hard bar. Maybe, listen, go listen to Lord Knows. Okay, go listen to Lord Knows. I know it very well. That's the hardest god damn beat. Just Blaze killed it.

And you know what he did with it? He raps about looking through his date's purses because he can't trust them. Rick Ross drops the hardest bars ever on that track. And Drake's like, I don't trust these house like just fuck off, man. Fuck off. He irritates me so much. And the kids love him. Oh, my God. The kids love him. We do. Yeah, you do. I don't get it.

I mean, it's like this now than I used to, but I'm not a kid anymore. No one's ever said that. No one's ever said that. No one's ever said that. Alright, Draft Crumb. You put your shoulders into it too. No one's ever said that. You said it with, you tried to say it with confidence, you tried to sell it.

Cause I thought I had it. No one's ever said that. No one's ever said that. Flitch. That's so good. Thanks y'all. Thanks, Benz.