The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: An Hour of Your Favorite Segments

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

Hour 1 is headlined by Greg Cote's 'Back in My Day' and Stugotz's 'Weekend Observations.' Then, we're joined by Rex Chapman to discuss his new show 'Owned' about the stories of sports ownership, what ...he's learned about the good and the bad, and to deliver his Top 5 Worst Sports Owners of All-Time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshow with the Stugat's Podcast. And now, it is time to take a trip down memory lane. Here's your guy, Greg Cody, with back in my day. Packing went on in the last con cruise recently, gone 10 days. Major suitcases and serious packing would be involved. Wife and I were discussing how much luggage would each bring, and she says to me, almost as an afterthought, I ordered some cubes that should be delivered by tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I had the same blank look on my face I might have had if she had said, I ordered some door stops that should be delivered by tomorrow. It was a non-sequitor to my ears. We were discussing suitcases. You know, cubes in my lexicon are ice cubes and rubix cubes. Packing cubes, she addressed my blank stare. Still nothing but furrowed eyebrows for me. So she says small individual containers with zippers that help organizing condensed everything. The whole world uses packing cubes but you. I hear that a lot from my wife.
Starting point is 00:01:26 She loves to say the whole world is doing something except me. I mock her saying that packing cubes will help organize my suitcase. It's a suitcase. I'm the boss of my suitcase, not vice versa. I throw a bunch of clothes in there in the order I wish. It is not this huge and confounding labyrinth.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I don't need a map to remember where I put the t-shirts And by the way, I'm gonna lay my t-shirts flat or at most folded once because they prefer that t-shirts hate to be rolled into a cylinder like the cubes want It sounded to me like packing cubes were a bunch of tiny suitcases You filled up and put inside a big suitcase Which means you couldn't take as many clothes because all of the damn packing cubes were taking up space. And then instead of everything being readily visible for swift access, you had to remember or try to guess
Starting point is 00:02:12 which of this myriad of opaque zipped-up packing cubes contained what you were looking for. Unzipping a suitcase to a sea of packing cubes is as disparaging as opening the fridge to find wall-to-wall Tupperware tubs. It's the illusion of efficiency. Somebody on a get rich quick vendor and vents something we don't need because they know that gallblow trend gobbling travelers would eat it up. So here come the packing cubes to my doorstep. The only zippered container I want in my suitcase is the old-fashioned friend
Starting point is 00:02:42 with the charmingly unfortunate name, the toiletry bag. Pack in a suitcase does not require a science or a system, folks. I don't need a cubed organized mere save space. I stuffed three pair of underwear in one dress shoe, and balls of socks and a corled up belt in the other. I proudly underpack. Nobody packs light like me because nobody cares or knows if I wear the same pair of undies more than once. Nobody on the cruise ship is whispering, disparaging, hey, didn't that man over there wear that same dress you wore days earlier? And if I forget my belt, well, I bet those sell in Alaska and if they don't, it wouldn't be the first time I cinched
Starting point is 00:03:22 together two belt loops with a piece of twine and walked in there with a chin-up strut. So here I am, just another lumbing sliding to his airport gate with the unwanted convenience of telescoping handles and rolling wheels. You can't even buy the suitcase you want nowadays. I wanted to a luggage store and asked for a large leather vellise with a strap handle. Didn't have it. Carpet bags, he said no. I said, can I get a wooden steamer trunk?
Starting point is 00:03:48 Nope, didn't have that either. I can't get the suitcase, I wanted. At least let me pack it my way. No cubes allowed. I'm Greg Cody. Yeah. And that's how it was back in my day. Mike Ryan is shaking his head.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Billy is applauding. He's so right about this. Well, he's so wrong about one of the wrongs that he said. How many underwear did you pack for a 10-day trip? In all honesty, I think I packed five. Oh, no. That stuffed him in a shoe. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:18 That's a good idea. I don't see that cute. Exactly. I need shoes. I'm not wearing a cube on my foot. I need a suitcase to go inside a suitcase. Like, yeah, that's exactly right. People need shoes. I'm not wearing a cube on my foot. I need a suitcase to go inside a suitcase. It's like, ah, Jesus. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:04:27 People over underwear. You don't need to wear a pair of underwear. I'm not shitting in my pants like an infant. I don't need to change my underwear every single day. I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna lie. I said it. You're embarrassing yourself.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You fart every day. That's not the start. What if the start is just clean air filtered air coming out of there. No, speak no matter what. What's it to you? When I'm living a pet, I drop my boxers. That's what my family used to call for. No, you've been doing that hold on.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Let's just stop here. No, he's right. He was rolling. Yeah, thank you, Billy. Yes, but no, he was rolling. Yes, but I do want to stop for a moment because I had that same reaction I'm going to say about 30 years ago when he said and families do have verbiage for all of this that the Cody family is the only one in the universe that describes that farting
Starting point is 00:05:17 as letting a pet. Correct. You let a pet and then you go take a QK. If you feel it coming, you drop your drawers, you know, let the pet into the wild. I love this family. Pull your pants back up and go about your day. So you're dropping trout during the dinner service,
Starting point is 00:05:34 just like, hold on, I got a pet percolating it. I'm going to the restroom, you know, I'm behind closed doors. Most people feel like me. Nobody else has the balls to say it. So many beer farts in the morning. No one feels like you, Greg. Here is the balls to say. That's right. So many beer parts in the morning. So many beer parts in the morning. No one feels like you, Greg. Here's a packing cube.
Starting point is 00:05:48 It's called luggage. Help me with it. That's where you go. Hello, Billy. Hello. No, Billy's right as always. Guys, always on the mark. Or is the GAC or just meet it with General Sound?
Starting point is 00:05:57 Just add a real like to do that. Yes, two catchphrases. I'll take you with God. I'll take the nod. You know? I know how to say, and you know what? In Mandarin, I'll tell you that. Don I'll take the nod, you know? I know how to say, and you know what, in Mandarin, I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Don't do that. Please don't. Yeah, my wife is Chinese, she'll fly over here and kill you. You know what, I would not disparage her by saying what is just a phrase. I think you would. In fact, if I say it, will you ask her if I'm saying it? I love it when we get out of the eye.
Starting point is 00:06:21 She's right way of positioning it. I'm like, you're trying to learn. Yeah, you're trying to learn. Yeah, you're trying to learn. My wife has been a martial artist. She's nationally ranked for over 18 years. She will kill you with a toothbrush. Well, luckily, she's thousands of miles away from me. And I run fast.
Starting point is 00:06:36 She's a ninja. She could be here right now. I got old man's speed. There's a reason why when I check into a hotel room, I still sleep on my side of the bed, even though she's not in the hotel room because she might be there Terrified I have to think that everyone in our audience is saying to themselves. It's one pair of underwear a day Yes, it's not a least not an accrued on vacation where you're being active you go out
Starting point is 00:07:00 You spend all day you go you come on you shower you put new underwear on all bets are off on a cruise The only exception is me where swim trunks. Yeah, like swim trunks multiple days. That's fine That saves on underwear. I got two pair a day when I'm traveling 10 days. So that's 20 pairs of underwear I'm not saying I use them all that's not saying I'm not saying I use them all But I think I think are you grabbing your pants like why are you changing underwear today? I'm bringing saying I use them all, but I think I did. Are you crapping your pants? Like why are you changing underwear today? I'm bringing underwear. Anytime I wash myself, I change underwear. Too much underwear, you're over underwearing.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You don't go commando once in a while. Ain't no love. Old underwear, you know? That saves on underwear as well. Is the over on Chris' underwear. Greg Cody claiming that the only thing that should go in a suitcase that is also another suitcase, the toilet treat bag. Correct. The only thing with a zipper other
Starting point is 00:07:52 than pair of jeans have zippers. And let's say a button. Put it on the pole, please Judeo at Lebitar Show. Do you have any other bags inside your suitcase other than the toilet treat bag? They have compartments. A good suitcase, you don't need other suitcases to go into the suitcase. You put your socks in one thing. You put your underwear, five pairs of them into a shoe, and you're good to go.
Starting point is 00:08:14 It's just more efficient though. You can pack like six shirts into one little packing cube, and then you press it down, get all the air out of it, and this little space right here is holding like six shirts. But who wants to dig through that? Right wants to get on the cruise, or zipper his suitcase, put on a pair of shorts, no one can wear.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So flip flop to T-shirt and go hit the drink bag. It's the deck shoes the whole time. I mean, there's no flip flop. I travel every week. I got those vacuum sealed bags. You put the vacuum cleaner in it, it sucks out all the air, you can pack your whole closet into a suitcase.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Amazing. No, we don't do that. We don't do that. cleaner in it, it sucks out all the air, you can pack your whole claws into a suitcase. It's amazing. No, we don't do that. We don't do that. Yes you do, mom did it for you. No, I packed my stuff. She's the one who bought the cubes. She packed her thing and I packed mine. Darn her for being more efficient.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I mean, she tells me what to pack, granted, but then I throw it in my suitcase. She's got to be disgusted by your underwear, have it. There's no way that she's good with that. Um, you know what? It's a peccadillo of mine. She finds it endearing. There's no way that she's true. She's into deep, you know what I do.
Starting point is 00:09:16 This is a sincere question. Do you have any underwear that's older than me? No way. No, I don't. I do have t-shirts older than you. Do you have five pairs of underwear? Yeah. What's your oldest pair of underwear?
Starting point is 00:09:28 That you even nearer surprised that it's last of this one. I recycle my underwear every couple of years. The pair you're wearing right now, when did you put them on? My haines. Who was present? This morning.
Starting point is 00:09:39 No, we love haines boxers. What's a vampire in it? No, no, I wear a fresh underwear. I would imagine your wife swaps them out too, right? Like if she's buying you these cubes, I'm sure everyone's going to want to see them out. It's like here, Greg, here's a new pack of underwear. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I also wear t-shirts multiple times. I'll wear the exact same outfit to a restaurant, two nights in a row. Do you have any t-shirts from the Nixon era? No, they don't ask that long. Carter? No. You're not self-conscious about wearing it.
Starting point is 00:10:10 You're not even separated by five days and outfitting. How many Reagans? You're just wearing the same outfit. You have a Ronald Reagan? You have a limited-fitting Ronald Reagan. It's one word. It's one word. It's just whale.
Starting point is 00:10:23 But that's it. What are they seeing off the boat in Kielargo? It's not like he's wearing like a blue shirt that it's like, oh, is that the same shirt? Is it a different shirt? He's wearing like a shirt that says, oh my God, it's the Watford shirt. I swear to God I was just about to say,
Starting point is 00:10:36 in Alaska, he wore that Watford shirt like six days in a row. No, but I did wear two, three days in a row. Unless I'm sweating profusely, and it's sitting on a hike, and it smells, then I'm wearing a three days in a row. And let's some sweating profusely. And it's sweating. We went on a hike and it smells. Then I'm like, where are you days in a row? Your wife has no fear of you ever cheating on her.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Ever. No fear. Why do I want to change shirts? If I'm wearing a dress shirt into an air conditioned restaurant, I'm not sweating, I'm not spilling anything on it. It's perfectly clean. I wear it again the next day, what's the crime in that? I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:11:11 People are so fiscidious about what they wear and changing underwear every day, it's just unnecessary. I think pet peeve, I think that this, or four fathers didn't do that. That's right, Greg. This is a telltale sign of aging I believe there is a crossroads and I don't think it's just getting married I believe there's another depth of aging here when you're wearing the same outfit two three four days in a row
Starting point is 00:11:39 That is something that people only over 50 or 60 end up doing. You stop caring. You do not care about hygiene. You do not care about the opinions of others. Greg should be commended for what he's doing. You go to any hotel and they say, you know what, use your towel twice for trying to save the environment, the whales, blah, blah. Greg's taking that to all of his clothes.
Starting point is 00:11:59 He's doing that with all of his clothes, minimal washing, saving all the whales, all the turtles, all that. He's doing all these great things for the environment. He's not being, you guys, you know what you are? You're close, gluttons. That's what we're surrounded by right now, Greg. Everybody needs a new outfit every day. For what?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Damn right, they do. Whale? And another thing, don't make me out to be worse than I am. What a weird face. When I wear the same outfit two days in a row don't turn it into four days in a row because that's a lot of sun just said that you wore that shirt six times on the ten day maybe it was six days in eight out of eight days you wore six days two or three perhaps this is a new and improved
Starting point is 00:12:39 the lebertar show with the stugas gamble on by draft kings down lebertard. Just, you can't talk about double-digit national titles when every single call of you winning the national title. Sounds like this. Oh, there's a Stubby Jacket running down his highlight. It is, it is. If the audio, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:57 That's not true. Yeah, and there's a World War II veteran pitching into another white guy, and he avoids another white guy. Oh my God, Notre Dame, the fighting hymns, have done it again for the eighth time. I'm not avoids another white guy. Oh my god another name the fighting timers have done it again for the eight time. I'm not a pale white people. Spook at chubby checker Sorry He's black. I was really good. It's a white name chubby checker. I think I'm like, I'm sorry man I'm in Provinear
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's a pretty cool rip. It's definitely a quiet stage. Running down the side. He smells it differently. His name is Shubby. Maybe you didn't hear me correctly. His name is Shubby Chakras. It's an S at the end. I feel like that should be the largest of five.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And Shubby Chakras. And Shubby Chakras. It sounds like a college football name. This is the Dalabatar show with the Stugats. In this time for the Stugats to share his game notes, no one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy's stew. We can't observation brought to you by Miller Lite, great taste, 96 calories available for delivery. DINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN show, feels his absence more than I do. And while I missed him a great deal, on pretty certain, he didn't miss me at all. But then, he's been forced back into action, because you can only help your poor wife deal with two kids for 21 days. And just like that, Make no mistake about it Billy kill is back
Starting point is 00:14:48 Speaking of back. Hey Dan On Thursday, you know what else is back do you Dan? football You won wf a.n. Oh Forget about that. Thanks for the reminder. Dan, you know what the B in Billy and the G in Gill stands for? I do not.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Baby girl, how about that hat's I being amazing? Is it though we can't produce boys around here? Nobody here, Greg Cody is the only one who can produce a boy around here. Damn right. Taking a week off to sit at home and watch Shark Week feels like an abuse of the metal arc vacation policy. I regret writing that. I didn't know the news. Sorry. Sorry, Dan. You're not preparing for anything you're doing on WFA and you're not
Starting point is 00:15:51 preparing. You're going to go to WFA and you're not- Just let it fly, baby. It's worked at this point. Why change up the game now? Because it's the only place in all of sports media where you have to be prepared where it could work here Your plan that can't work anywhere else Your plan is a recipe for value disaster anywhere else in sports media International thank you. You know that Odele Beckham is no longer on the Giants what? OBJ Max for stepping is no longer on the Giants. What? Oh, Bj. Max Versteppin. Feel free to mix in a second or third place finish
Starting point is 00:16:30 every now and again. Oh, whatever. I would tell Max Scherzer to look someone in the eyes when he talks to them. Oh, come on. But he can't come up with what he means. Unless it's Hunter Pence. I mean, they see eye to eye.
Starting point is 00:16:45 There's two different color eyes. He's not, he doesn't have a wandering eye. It's just two different colored eyes. Max Verstappen is a magician. He made Lewis Hamilton disappear. Dan, you know what the M in Max Verstappen stands for? Magician. Wow, you're on it.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Are you getting upset because you mispronounced Max's name? Max Verstappen stands for. Magician. Wow. You're on it. Are you getting upset because you mispronounced Max's name? I'm lashing out. Stop her stepping on my jokes. Dead in company shows. With Bill Walton, Miles Teller, Lake Tahoe, thick and jake going with Aaron Rogers, articles being written about me, me writing articles about others, Steven A Smith,
Starting point is 00:17:28 live God bless football from New York City, WFAN, Dan, I'm having a moment. Top five things that are having a moment. Number five, Christopher Meddog, we're so. Have a moment, number four, Oppenheim. Oppenheimer? Whatever. Number three, the color pink.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Oppenheim. Did you just, I think it was Oppenheimer with your agent? You thought they made a movie about your agent? Lou, not having a moment right now. Number two, me. And number one. You thought they made a movie about your agent? Lou, not having a moment right now. No. Number two, me and number one, Barbie. I mean, Barbie's having a moment. Pink was number three.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, pink. So you've got Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer, who would destroy the Earth with a nuclear bomb and Oppenheimer, who would destroy the Earth with a nuclear bomb, and Oppenheim, who'd destroy this show with one. Keep an eye on the angels. Jason Point.
Starting point is 00:18:32 They're like five games over 500. Yeah, but they kept Donutani, Trout is coming back. He's had to make a couple of trades at the deadline. I mean, they had six years to impress Donutani, and they're doing it now at the trade deadline. Six games out. Weird, but watch out for it. Esquip an eye on them. Yeah, unless you're just, unless you're Mac Shurser.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Right. And you can't just look at Hunter Pence. Correct. You know what they say about Eli Apple, Dan? I do not. An apple a day keeps the Lamaritrofe away. It's bad, bad news for the dolphins by the way the barbie thing little out of hand seriously they're pop-up
Starting point is 00:19:11 stores restaurants all over New York City enough barbie you into this barbie yes to god I haven't stopped thinking about it if you plan this is the only time I haven't been wearing pink since the opening of the moon. So that's where you've got to go. If you plan on telling me you watch USA and Portugal at 3 a.m., you better have proof. I did watch it. A picture of you watch, I need something.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Otherwise I don't believe you. A picture of me watching it? Well I believe you. I do believe you You were covering it and you gave me very good details this morning. We could tell you the score. Does that prove it? No It's a score of every soccer game. Do me a favor tell me one detail from the soccer game something it hit the post Okay, but you read that right?
Starting point is 00:20:01 Reagan how did Portugal play well? but you read that right Reagan how did Portugal play well if you are interested it a show where a host reports news with as much arrogance and bravado was anyone in the history of our industry only to have it go the exact opposite way 48 hours later I suggest listening to Mike Francesca the Pope. That's amazing how wrong he is. But he thinks he's right. That's correct. Hey Delta, congratulations on getting me to my gate seven minutes early.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Do me a favor. Make the same announcement every time you get me to the gate, seven minutes late, thanks, getting on a plane. When you're already a little stuffed up, dangerous game. It is, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't advise it. I'm about to do it again on Wednesday. G.O. Probably not a good thing when the valet guys at the airport know you by name.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Mr. Weir. They run to my car. Um, thanks to everyone on the show for sending me their heartfelt birthday wishes over the weekend. And by everyone, I mean Roy. Dan you know what the bee in Bellamy stands for? Birthday. Wishes. Birthday wishes. I got it. It's tough day. You're consumed with Barbie. I get it. I was so jealous of Billy at his paid three weeks off for paternity leave that I spent the entire weekend trying to convince my wife to have another kid.
Starting point is 00:21:48 How'd that go? Oh wow. Oh wow. The harder part is getting her to have the sack. Yeah. Hey. You're right. Max Sharerser, do it in New York.
Starting point is 00:22:00 The match GM said this is not a fire sale. Hey, match GM. Sell your not not a fire sale. Hey, match GM. Sell, you're not having a fire sale of somebody else. Because I ain't buying. Thanks. Anyone else get tired or getting tired of messy and Beckham? No. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:17 There's a new one everywhere in the opposite. We've had LeBron and Wade. We've had great duos down here. And other than that, do something. And they just showed up. They haven't lost most popular guys in town. Oh And they just showed up. They haven't lost. Most popular guys in town. Oh, they've lost plenty.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Get out of here. What do you mean? Yeah, the team has. I mean, these weird tournaments they make up in season. Nothing. But literally, they haven't lost anything. They also have one technically irregular season game. Have that.
Starting point is 00:22:43 There you go. Do it in the regular season. Yeah, there you have that do it the regular when do they play august 20th is the next league game i doubt anyone but they played tomorrow at the league cup in the inner land no they played well i mean the stadium is far the state is still hour and not quite not quite or land that is one of the most amazing things anywhere in sports. Seeing Puff Daddy and Serena Williams and LeBron fly in to a gas station near a gas station in Fort Lauderdale.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I believe Puff Daddy was five names ago. Whatever. I doubt anyone has ten things in their life. I doubt anyone has ten things in their life. I doubt anyone has ten things in their life. That mean more to them than the public's chicken tender sub means to me. Put it on the pole too. I dare you.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Will he always be puffed at you? That's a good word. The Texas Rangers are wheeling and dealing, Dan. You of course know what that means. The Rangers are doing, right? You know what mode they're in? Oh, win now. Oh, you are on your game today, man, despite Barbie. Dan, I've started my preparations
Starting point is 00:23:53 for the upcoming NFL season, and I'm telling you right now, that you should keep an eye on these Chicago Bears. Did you forget how this segment works? Yeah. He's like, it's all over the place. Top five teams, you should keep an eye on. Headed into this NFL season.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Number five, the Steelers. Number four, the Browns. Number three, the Raiders. What are they for real? Number two, the Saints. Number one, the Bears. Anthony Richardson, congratulations on passing the SNF test. For those criticizing Dr. J about his all-time NBA top 10 list, it's his list. Make your own team USA.
Starting point is 00:24:47 That's how you park a bus. Can't believe New York basically shut down because they had four straight days of 91 degrees that felt like 95. Hey New Yorkers, what you call hell? We here in Miami call home. Speaking of hell how our briles Dan those are the weekend observations
Starting point is 00:25:11 Don Lebertard photography's not as hard as it's made out to be and now with computer I mean you can make anything look like anything day. It's almost cheating It's not fair. If you push a button it takes a thousand pictures. You're gonna find a good one in the batch There were a lot of photographers there taking a thousands of pictures. One got that photograph. Okay, good retort. Still gots.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Haven't you ever passed by photographers? Tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch. I guarantee you when that shot was taken, we didn't just hear, tch, tch. That's not what you heard. If you were by that camera, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch. Am I ear with that?, my ear would that.
Starting point is 00:25:45 He does a good camera. This is the Dalai Batar show with this two-gats. I've liked this guy for a long time, have enjoyed his reinvention here in the media space as he got to it very early and figured out how to make an economy around being a former athlete who is interesting. He's got a new show owned with Rex Chapman from SmartLess Media, wherever it is you get your podcasts. This is about owners, correct? You had a number of different
Starting point is 00:26:18 options on which way you wanted to go in the content game. Thank you for joining us Rex, it's nice to see you. Why did you choose this one? Well, Dan, thank first. Thanks for having me. Do we go back like 30 years now? That's a long time. 25, 30 years, is that right? Yes. Well, yeah, you were, you were a part of one of the greatest games in Miami Heat History beating Michael Jordan with a roster of eight players and you had about 40 points in that game right? I didn't tell you to bring that up. I just was trying to go into our history together. You let them there though. Well, thank you. Well, it just going back for a second before we get to your podcast, where does that rank
Starting point is 00:27:00 with most fun you've ever had in a basketball game beating Michael Jordan with eight players as a member of the game or seven players? That was pretty fun. That was pretty fun. They came in the bulls. You know, they ended up 72 and 10 that year. They came in and partied on South Beach the entire night knowing we only had like eight players and we weren't very good anyway. And I know that because I was there part of the night.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And then I went home and got a little sleep, and they didn't get any sleep. And we just put it on them and yeah, it was fun, fun of shit. Oh, the podcast with Rex Chapman. Why did you decide to do this about owners? Because we don't see these owners very much. They get to live these shadowy existences where they're the ones actually breaking in all the money we make assumptions about how smart they are when they're not actually that smart so why did you decide to do this
Starting point is 00:27:53 uh... rich course and called me guy that is running the smartless uh... sort of media brand uh... for jason bait mishon haze and will learn that from their spin-off they spun off part of uh... uh their smart-less podcast into a couple different other ones and after I did that greatly successful CNN plus show in New York for four episodes before the network went kaput. They called me asked if I'd be interested in this. I was living in New York studios in the city and I thought why not It is a it's a really interesting concept to talk about these people that really have a stranglehold on the communities That they buy these franchises in and I've Realized over time the the best owners well, they try to win, but they make the fans feel
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like part of the process. They they make the fans feel like part of the process. They value the fans. Good owners do. They want the fans to be proud of the team that they put on the field or on the floor. And a lot of these owners don't give a crap about the fans. And I find those to be the most fascinating ones. What did you learn most or what have you learned most so far even though you haven't been doing this a ton yet?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Man, I think, for instance, Russell Crowe was one of our first episodes. He reached out to me, Russell Crowe the actor, Oscar winner, Big Sports Fan. Didn't know that. He bought his childhood rugby team, turned it in from Rupert Murdoch for $3 million. It's worth $85 million today, and it's the thing that he's most proud of in the world. He loves it. Sports ownership. I think we're seeing that with Ryan Reynolds and Rob McLean.
Starting point is 00:29:36 He now with Rexham. These guys, they love their acting and entertainment, but they love sports as well. What kind of owner Rex was Mickey Arison? Mickey was great and I, I just ran into Mickey in Vegas with his wife and son Nick. They always give me the biggest hug when they see me and I was part of their, I guess, their first team down there. Um, in Miami, is that right, Dan? Pat Riley's first year, did they own it before then or not? Yeah, the family is owned, it's into 88.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Okay, okay. So I, yeah, I love those guys and I, there are many times I'm asked about, you know, good owners and bad owners anymore. And Mickey is the one that I, I kind of go to as sort of the top of the ladder. He put Pat into it. I think the best owners, they realize what they don't know
Starting point is 00:30:28 and they find people, experts in the field like Pat Riley. They put guys like Pat Riley in charge and trust Pat to put his people in place. He's done that with Eric Spolstra. They have a system. They might not be title contenders every year but they're in the playoffs every year, and their fans are proud of the product they put on the floor.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Mickey does an amazing job of empowering the people around him to do a top-notch job day in and day out. It's just their system. We have learned recently, not unlike with owners, that many of these very wealthy CEOs or people running giant businesses don't have any earthly idea what they're doing. You mentioned your CNN plus show. I was very excited for that. And in general, the endeavor and CNN has since collapsed because it is so poorly run. What happened
Starting point is 00:31:16 there, Rex, with you? Was it just a corporation coming in and deciding we're going to take this all as tax hits. Never mind all the content we were going to make. All those budgets get scrapped, get out of here Rex Chapman. We were going to give you a big chance you're canceled after four shows. Yeah, that's right. I did have a couple of your contracts, so that helped. As did many of the sort of people that they were trying to develop shows around. And to be honest, yes, they were just going to write everything off. to be honest, yes, they were just gonna write everything off. It was a new philosophy, new ownership group came in,
Starting point is 00:31:49 not like unliked professional sports. They decided they wanted to go another way. They scrapped everything, took the big tax break, and moved on. That's part of it. And you pick up and you move on. But it was a terrific experience. I'm forever grateful for the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Rex, you mentioned Mickey Eris, and there's a lot of opposite examples out there. If you're starting a hall of shame for a world's worst sports owner. Now, let's do this another way. Let's do it five. Top five, one, two, three. Owners of all time or right now? What do you want to do? Do you want to do top five?
Starting point is 00:32:28 I got to go all time. Okay. All time. This is exciting. Hold on. I got to write this down. This is very exciting. Let's all write this down. We got to get our pens here. Get the fanfare. Get the highest quality production that we have back there to get Rex Chapman's top five worst owners ever. The podcast is owned with Rex Chapman. Number five, Rex.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Number five is George Shin. That's a good one. That is good. George Shin, extremely cheap owner, drafted me. That was his first mistake, I suppose. Drafted me eighth, overall, to handle Michael Jordan in the east as a two-guard and i'll tell you how that worked out michael jordan ended up owning the hornet that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that in extremely cheap, eventually sort of ran the thing into the ground, had to sell the team, move to, move the, sorry, move the team to New Orleans, and then had to sell. It was just
Starting point is 00:33:31 a disaster. Number four, number four, Howard Schultz. Howard Schultz bought the Seattle Supersonics in the early 2000s, held on to it for a couple of years. He bought it for like 200 million sold it for like 350 million. It's just a bad business deal and the team moved to OKC. A team deserves to be in Seattle, but he sold the team and made like 150 million if he to held the team for 10 years. He makes a billion dollars. If he held held on to it for 20 years he makes three or four billion dollars bad business. That's the Starbucks guy right? Starbucks yeah. Number three.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Number three, Marge Shot. Wow. You got two worse than that all right good luck. Marge Shot. I was a teenager in the 80s growing up in, and the reds were the closest team to us. She did do one thing that sort of endeared herself to the fans, which was she kept season ticket prices very low,
Starting point is 00:34:33 like maybe the lowest in the league. The problem was she was incredibly cheap, but on top of that, she also had random Nazi memorabilia laying around her house. I mean, what are we talking about? They constantly asked her to do sensitivity training. She was constantly saying, uttering racial epithets at just admissible owner.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Number should have been left. Number two. Number two, dance nighter. Oh, I have seen such a good stats. Dance nighter. You know, having played in Washington for the bullets way back in the day, we weren't very good.
Starting point is 00:35:15 The redskins were pretty damn good. And the one thing about the redskins during that time is the fan base loved the team, loved the group, loved the whole vibe of things. Dan Snyder bought the team and really from all the stuff in the front office, the sexual harassment, the covering up of everything. And the fact that he was, he was forced out. I mean, come on, you can't do it.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Worst job. Well, not, not just forced out, but forced out with something I haven't seen before, which is you're leaving, we're taking $60 million as you go, even though you're selling for $6 billion. Here's a fine at the very end. You can't do anything about it because you're awful. But what is Stugat's the better stat for pointing out his incompetence? Is it that in 24 years, they had two all pros, two to one a special teamer and one last year?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Or is it that they had as many division titles as federal investigations? Number two. Number one, Rex Chapman. The worst owner ever is? Absolutely Donald Sterling. worst owner ever is? Absolutely Donald Sterling. Donald Sterling, owner of the Clippers from the time I entered the league in the 80s, it was widely known that he was arguably the worst cheapest owner in the league at that point.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Constantly in the lottery, drafting guys like Danny Manning and Gary Grant and Louis Volta and really good players letting them finish out their rookie deals when they had become really good player, some of them all stars and never resigning those guys, just letting them walk. Just a bad owner didn't care about winning, didn't care about the fans and then all the racial stuff. Come on. Bottom of the barrel.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Rex, before we get you, before we get you out of here, the new podcast is called Own Congratulations to James Dolan for somehow sneaking out without getting in the top five. But you have become a bit of a social media and presario, can you tell me how it is that that community worked for you, how it is that what is the backstory for how it is that you developed a place where people find things virally very quickly? Pure accident, but I'm sure I've told you this before, but I was, you know, I watched a lot of basketball and one day it was on, this was years ago, seven, eight years ago. I'm watching a video on Twitter or X or whatever
Starting point is 00:37:46 the hell you want to call it now. And it's a school of dolphin swimming out or swimming into shore as a guy's paddle boarding out and one dolphin jumps up, strikes him right in the chest and knocks him off the paddle board and I just said to myself, that's a king charge. And so I tweeted out blocker charge. Is this a blocker charge? And I guess some sports people found it clever, funny, whatever. And it started this stupid Twitter thing that I have
Starting point is 00:38:16 and now people just send me funny videos to put out. So I guess it's fine. It's just weird. You sound wildly bored by it. Thank you, well, Greg. It sounds a bigger thing. Thanks for being on with us. Always good wildly bored by it. Thank you, well, it's on the bigger thing. Thanks for being on with us. Always good seeing you, sir.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Thank you for making the time. Thanks, fellas. Always.

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