The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Back In My Gay

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Dave Annable is the star of the new hit show Lioness and is a clear fan of our show as he joins the crew discuss his run on Yellowstone while knowing his character would die, being on Page 7 of People's Sexiest Man, his Giants and Mets fandom, marrying a Cuban, and how his gray hair makes him look like he can read. Then, the Pirates are offering 30 years of season tickets, a softball game on their field, and more for delivering them a 1-of-1 Topps Paul Skenes card. Is this more of a reward or punishment...? Plus, Billy tells the story of wheeling and dealing with his Marlins season tickets, and Izzy delivers a new installment of "Back in my Gay." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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kind of defeated, kind of jealous. He saw Dave Anibal there on the screen and said, man, good looking guy. Am I lying? No, you're not lying. He was ranked number seven on People Magazine's list of sexiest men alive. Wow. So he... Outside of top five. Technically, what are you saying? Outside list of sexiest men alive. Wow. So he, uh,

Outside of top five. Technically, what are you saying? Outside of top five, all alive. Outside of the top five. Outside looking in. What's the point of you being on the list? If you're seven, right? Dave, thank you for joining us.

What is the point of being on the list if you're just seven? Billy knows, cause he's often in the top five of all sexy lists. You know, here's the deal, actually actually I was on page seven you know so I don't know if I really was in the top ten it just happened like that got out I might have started it but yeah you know it's really I don't think I was in the top ten at all. For the people who do not know I don't know if they associate you with Yellowstone brothers

and sisters lioness when people want to come and talk't know if they associate you with Yellowstone Brothers and Sisters, Lioness, when people wanna come and talk to you, it's probably not about Yellowstone, right? Well, they do, it's just to really bust on me. You know, like, oh, you died in Act Four of the most popular show on the planet. And I, you know, I'd say thank you for reminding me. You know, I do have a Yellowstone sticker on my truck.

I'm really holding on. You know, I'm really a Yellowstone sticker on my truck. I'm really holding on. You know, I'm really trying to grasp onto that as long as possible. What did you think the show was going to be in its initial stages and how crazy is Costner about these Westerns that he would like gamble his homes to make Western stuff outside of Yellowstone? Yeah, you know, that's a whole wild other story. But you know that's a whole that's a whole wild other story but you know I sort of knew going in that I was gonna die right you know so obviously I read the script what I didn't know is how fun I mean it's been out for five years you know I mean catch up you know but you know I did know I was gonna die what I

didn't know is like how much fun like being a cowboy would be. I'm from New York. So like being on a horse in Montana and, you know, Utah, like with everybody, I was like, yo, I don't wanna die at all. Like this is way too fun. So, you know, we're shooting my death scene and I got all the fake blood and everything. I'm like, wait, no, no, this is makeup. You know, guys, like I'm gonna live.

This is fine. Please, please don't kill me. I started a whole Save Dave campaign. It was one member, me. Um, you know, I'm still holding on. I was like, you know, any flashbacks? And Taylor's like, nah. I was like, oh.

It could be a force ghost maybe. Come back as a ghost, you know, talking to him. Yeah, yeah. You know, I did pop back for one little scene in season four in the finale. it was you know it was just so great. I mean everybody there is I mean they're like the Beatles now the cast it's crazy I did a stage coach with them and you know they couldn't walk around at all and you know I was trying to get recognized. I was like hey you know once a dozen you know

and they were all like yeah yeah. Yeah. Lee, you know, first seven minutes. So you guys knew you had a hit though, when? Like when did, I never understood how it is that that show grew that quickly when you have to seek out your entertainment and I was wondering what that show was doing that its word of mouth arrived at, hey, this is the most popular show in America.

Yeah, I think, you know, my take, which means nothing on this, is there's so many things to watch out there. And, you know, nowadays, I think it really is kind of those word of mouth shows, you know, things that are really, you know, catching on, water cooler, and then COVID. I think Yellowstone really blew up in COVID.

I mean, everyone's home, you know, everyone plowed through Tiger King and just had, you know, something else to watch. And I think Yellowstone, you know, it's fantastic. And Taylor is, you know, the best in the business right now. So it's, you know, and they're on their final season. So yeah, I mean, it's a great show.

You know, Cowboys, Costner, you know, it's awesome. You're a Giants fan, a New York Giants fan. Don't say that out loud And don't say that out loud York Mets fan as well. That's an odd combination by the way. Yeah, it is Yes, it's usually Mets Jets, you know, I and you know, I did I chose the Giants are great You know, they were I mean, you know, we got two Super Bowls in there with Eli, but I mean, man, what happened? We're in a real rebuilding stage, you know, and obviously the news just came out, they're benching Jones, you know, third string.

What's your take on that? I mean, are we trying to lose? We trying to get a pick? Yeah. Dave, let me help you out here as a fellow Giants fan. We are the best fan base in the world. You know why? Because every decade, you and I are roughly the same age,

every decade of our lives, they've won a Super Bowl. They won one in the 80s, they won one in the 90s, they won one in the 2000s, won one in the 2010s. We still got six more years. The 2020, right? Guys are really roughin' it. Dude, I'm tellin' ya, as long as they win a Super Bowl in the next like five years,

we're fine. We've got one every decade. And then we coast the rest of the time. I buy that. I buy that. You know, who's it going to be? Who's our QB? Who's going to lead us to the promised land?

Can we get Eli back? How do you end up feeling about that when it happens to you a couple of days ago? Because your allegiances to football are greater than they are to the other sports, are they not? Yeah I mean football and baseball you know I'm a huge Mets fan we had a we had quite a ride this year you know and it was fun we came up short but like man we had some moxie you know we had some real fighting us which was exciting we needed it it's been a long time since we could cheer for those guys so yeah yeah, you know, it's easier to turn the Giants off

nowadays, you know, watch the red zone, you know, catch up on my fantasy because I'm like, they're just, they're real bad, you know? And so you get the Daniel Jones news and you're hopeless about the future. You're like, I'm done with him. I don't think he can play anymore. I'm guessing he's excited about it.

No more Daniel Jones. Yeah, you know, it was tough because I was like, I was kind of a believer and I was like, Oh, give this guy a shot, you know, but I feel like we've seen enough, you know, he's had enough real estate and and maybe it's going to be a change of scenery for him or something because I'm always cheering for guys. But like, you know, it ain't it. You know, it really it's I think it is time to move on. You know, we paid him over Barclay. Whoops. Hey, who? You know, it's not like he's brushing it in our division or anything.

Are these real tears? I guess I was gonna ask, what does it feel like to watch Saquon Barclay do what he's doing for the Eagles? Well, he's on all three of my fantasy teams, so I don't really mind it, you know? You hedge your feelings, I like that, yeah. You know, I'm like, yo, this guy, you know,

he needed a team, you know, he needed a young team, a great line, but it's tough to watch, but again, you know, I'd rather see him, you know, sort of go off and succeed than like just be on a bad team the whole time, you know? Dave, like myself, you seem to be somebody who has embraced your graying hair, right? Silvery hair, if you will. Mine, if it grew out, would look pretty much very similar to yours.

I get compliments on my hair color more than anything else. Why is it that everybody else has missed out and gray has been the way to go this whole time? You know, that's a great question. I mean, it makes me look like somewhat intelligent, like I could read or something. And I'm really riding this. Thank you. No, it's really, when it fast forward, once I married a Cuban. And now, it's really all I got, to be honest.

It's my only calling card, so I got to ride this. It's a strong look. Did you learn any Spanish marrying a Cuban? A poquito. You know, it was it was in our it was in our it was in our wedding vows. And I really, you know, if you were here, she would say I need to learn some more. But, you know, it's great because we go to her house in in Marino Valley. And, you know, there's like, every barbecue is like 150 Cubans.

There's like two other white guys that are speaking English, and everybody else is just speaking Spanish, and it's this really just fun, beautiful family, and it's great. I should learn it. Do they call you gringo? Gringo. Yeah, that's what that means. No, I... No, they don't talkingo? Gringo. Yeah, you know, that's what that means.

No, I... No, they don't talk to me, actually. That's... Ever? Okay, yeah, they're here talking Spanish, yeah. Every time I'm there, I'm meeting, like, a new family member. That my wife, I'm like, who's that? They're like, she's like...

That is the way that goes with Hispanic families. Did you get the Yellowstone gig because you just looked like a cowboy? You don't identify as a cowboy. You're not the cowboy type, but you do. If I'm just looking at you and you walk into a room, I'm like, that guy, I can make that person a cowboy. He identifies as a giant, Dan.

Yeah, yeah. A sad, sad giant, that. No, you know, it was funny because I, you know, obviously I'm from New York and Taylor happened to be my wife's old acting coach. And, you know, I was running a scene with her for a show I was on at the time and she had this really like sort of confused sad look on her face. She's like, have you ever tried coaching? I was like, it sounded personal. But she introduced me to Taylor and you know, we had started coaching together on the show. And basically when Yellowstone came around,

I saw that he wrote it and was Costner and then I was supposed to be like the best cowboy. And I was like, oh shit, you know, like, I'm not, I'm not, I got to pass on this. Like, you know, I, I've been on a horse twice in my life and out of nowhere, because I hadn't spoken to him in years, he calls my wife and he says, why did your man just pass on the audition for Yellowstone? It's like Kevin Costner apparently. And he starts giving her all this, you know, all this crap. And she's like, Dave, we got to, we got to put you on tape for Yellowstone like today. I was like, okay, let's do it. And, you know, and then I got it. And, you know, Taylor called and I was like, sir, I'm going to be completely

honest with you. Like, I don't know how to ride a horse properly. And he's like, we'll get you on a horse tomorrow. And then from that day on, you know, for like literally two months, I was on a horse every day. And we were in the cowboy camp in the mountains of Utah and Montana. And it was like this, you know, incredible experience that I had that I, you know, forever just will cherish. A lot of work to get killed in three episodes.

Seriously, I just hired someone that can ride a horse, waste the money. Billy, I was like, how bad was he at riding a horse? And they're like, we gotta kill his character, man. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Day one, they're like, no, no, he's dead. We're gonna change this all up, no. No, we're gonna shoot him in the chest.

What has been the experience on Lioness? It's a weird time in Hollywood. The season two is out now on Paramount Plus. What has been the experience being involved with the new hit series, Lioness? You know, it's great. You know, if I'm gonna be honest with you, it's, you know, Taylor right now is sort of top in the business in television. And, you know, he's got this incredible knack for writing dialogue and characters and relationships. And, and you know, it's it's espionage. It's Zoe Zaldana, Morgan Freeman, Nicole Kidman, and Michael Kelly. And you know, I get to play Zoe's husband, doesn't suck. So, you know, that's, it's really been a great ride. And I feel like this is again, one of those sort of water cooler shows that are starting to spread.

And I think people are really enjoying it. And, and yeah, you know, go for the ride here. Let's see what happens. Is it easier to ride a lion? Oh, Jesus Christ. There was a lot of jokes there, but I, you know, just, you know. He chose the bad one.

Yeah, he chose the one of all the good ones that were there. He rejected all of them and decided to go with that one. You ain't lion. Freight. Oh, there you go. No, no, no, no, no. Do not encourage him. Sorry, yeah, no, no. Do not encourage him.

Sorry, yeah, it got me. I'll be honest with you. I feel like Dave isn't doing a good job of selling this to you. The show's called Lioness, but it's called Special Ops. Oh, wow. That's all it takes to hook me in. Lots of machine guns here. Lots of spies.

That's all you need, right? In order to get him interested in any of this stuff. You just need some special ops. I don't think there are lions, no. Maybe, maybe. He's so disappointed. Yeah, he seems upset about that. Can you take us through what your Mets experience was this year?

Was it, like obviously it was better than a lot of years, but it still ends in heartbreak. Yeah, you know, I mean, I think at one point, what we were 17 and a half games back, you know, like in June or something like that. And you know, to to be that far back and then sort of, you know, the end of the season, the Braves that Monday, you know, the only two teams playing and trying to get their way in. It was so exciting. I was literally in school pickup and I was late.

I'm sorry, kid. When she sees this, I was late, you know, because I was watching the game. I, you know, I'm screaming, I'm testing and then, you know, the Braves came back and then the blah, blah, blah, the Mets won. And, you know, it was great because I got my, my wife was on board for the whole playoff run, my kids and we're sitting around watching the Mets. And, you know, this team like didn't quit. They really didn't quit. And, you know, they had so much grit and fight and it was exciting to get behind them. It's been a while. So it was, you know, I think we got we got great prospects for

next year. Do we get Soto? I don't know You know who's getting Soto fans love love to identify with grit fans love When their teams are gritty you also love this to guys listen to this description Lioness is about a CIA special ops team led by former military Specialists willing to make the ultimate sacrifice of their lives for their country and it will plays. Dr. Neil McNamara sacrifice of their lives for their country. And it will play Dr. Neil McNamara, pediatric oncology surgeon and husband to Joe. A doctor. Amazing.

A doctor, it's the hair. It is the hair. It is, it is, it's exceptional hair. You also look a bit like Ryan Reynolds if he had more gray hair. Like I looked at him. Yeah, if you were older. Yeah, and like just older. It's where, yeah.

And like just softer, you know? He's got a Clooney vibe to him, doesn't he? Oh, wow, those are, I mean. I know what I see in him. I'm a hyphen among them. We're really fawning all over you right now, Ryan Reynolds and Clooney, this is good company. You should have finished higher than seventh in 2007

on People magazine. Page seven page. I should have been on page five. I should have been on page five. I should have been on page five. Do you know the six guys in front of you? Do you know them off the top of your head? No, I want to get to know them. I want to get in that studio.

You know, be my fan club. Dave, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate the time. Again, season two out now on Paramount Plus. Lioness is the name of the show. Enjoy the time, sir. Oh, thank you. And thanks for having me, guys. Big fans, so keep it going. on But across the country when I'm traveling, I'm getting those layers in. When it's just effortless and comfortable and looks good, Rhone's Commuter Collection combines comfort, versatility and breathability, massive in Miami,

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Stugats. All I have put in my body today is three cups of coffee and an entire cup of honey. Don't let him fool you, he said in the break that he's jittery. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats! We're gonna get to an Izzy Gutierrez back in my gay in a second. What a wonderful man. Yes. I love him.

Yes, we all fell in love there just staring into the lagoons that he has for eyes. Can you tell me Billy, because I'm not, I've heard you guys talking about this for a couple of days and I don't know the story. The Paul Skeen's card offer, the Pirates Fireballer who is the rookie of the year and nobody can hit him and he's got a tremendous mustache. What is the card offer? It's a baseball card offer? So, Tops has done this thing where like when a rookie makes their debut they have a little rookie debut, MLB debut patch, right? And then they take that patch off of the jersey and then they put it in a card and then they autograph the card. Now it's a one-of-one

so it's a rare situation. Every rookie presumably gets one of these made. Paul Skeens, as you guys are well aware, is a rookie sensation from LSU, plays for the Pirates, Pittsburgh, stays in all the nice Hampton Inn's. And he won Rookie of the Year two days ago. Now, the Pirates seemingly want this card back, but they don't know where the card is. It gets put out in a pack, or if you go into the card truthers, you find out that some of the best cards get leaked

to some of the more famous collectors. That's just what the truthers out there are saying about the card, the underbelly of the card world says that maybe there's some favorites in there that they can kind of actually control where those things go and it's not just old Billy Gill opens up a box atop and gets the Paul Skeaton's card, not exactly how it seems to work.

That's how you talk in the underbelly. Anyways. I love that character. Anyways. Underbelly baseball card. The underbelly is a good character. Listen to me, listen to me. I know we indulged in some Tom Fowler here,

some shenanigans and the likes, but I don't want any part with the dark world of the card collectors, so do not enlist me in this battle, my friend. I want no part of being in wars with the underworld of the card collection game Anyways, it seems like you inserted yourself there. No, I mean, okay. Sorry. I'm sorry. Anywho So here's the thing the card is out there and the Pirates want said card and they've made

Insane offers to the person who finds the card and then gives them this card So they've offered two pirate season tickets behind home plate for the next 30 years is I've offered two Pirate season tickets behind home plate for the next 30 years, is one of the things on there. A softball game for 30 at PNC Park, plus coaching from Pirates alumni. A spring training experience like no other. Private tour of the Pirates spring training facility, two Paul Skeens autographed jerseys,

meet and greet with Paul Skeens, batting practice, warm up with the team, and other unique experiences. Then Livy, Paul's girlfriend, has said, you will also be sitting in a suite with me for a game if you give us this card. So the value of this card now, just in these things that they're giving you, is millions of dollars.

Like 30 seasons of season tickets behind home plate should you flip them. I don't know if you can. I'm assuming you can, even though they probably wouldn't want you to. You can get millions of dollars over 30 years for this card. It is the pirates though.

It is, but 30 years behind home plate is gonna be expensive, and when you mention reselling him, didn't Joey Porter Jr.'s family sell his Will Call tickets for $400 and just tailgate, and they were quoted as saying, we've seen him play, we know what that kid can do. We don't need to watch that again. There's a lot of money in what it is that you're talking about behind home plays,

even if it is the Pirates. But what is this card actually worth? Because obviously this is based on the idea that it's not just that the card is valuable and exclusive, because there's only one, it's also based on the idea that it's not just that the card is valuable and exclusive because only there there's only one it's also based on the idea that this guy is going to be an all-time baseball player that this that this card is gonna be one of one for a player that is gonna dominate baseball if he does not get injured well so if you if you get the card it would greatly benefit you to

live in the Pittsburgh area and be a Pirates fan, right? Because if someone in, I don't know, California gets this card, 30 years of Pittsburgh Pirates season tickets are pretty worthless. A punishment more than a reward. Well, even if Paul Skeens, by the way, pans out,

you will be married to the Pirates longer than Paul Skeens will be. Like, you will be going to Pirates games much longer than Paul Skeens' career, by far. Two or three times his career possibly. I texted David about this. He says if Skeens is a Hall of Famer, it's a bargain. If he blows out and fizzles out, another story.

Well, tell me who the guys are. When you think of these names, Brian Taylor, Kerry Wood, people who were gonna be Paul Skeens, but the human arm isn't meant to continue throwing baseballs at that rate of speed. Mark Pryor, Cubs had two of them. Yeah, the Cubs had two guys like this

that they viewed this way where you thought they're gonna be winning 20 games a season for 10 seasons. Strasburg to an extent, right? He had a good career, he won a World Series, but he didn't live up to greatest pitcher ever hype just because of injuries. He was the World Series MVP, wasn't he live up to greatest pitcher ever hype just because of injuries He was the World Series MVP wasn't he yeah? I mean he would think yeah, but he still feels

I mean it's like the the argument is like Andrew Luck like Andrew Luck if you look at what he did was kind of a Disappointment right in the NFL. Yes, what you thought he would be and it was just because of injuries derailing his career I would say Matt Harvey is another one. It's a great one. When you're mentioning Strasburg though, I don't think we're allowed to say Strasburg's career was a success only because the expectations were in this place where this is going to be an all-time dominant person, not a major leaguer for seven years who is serviceable, but somebody who is going to be unhittable in the sport for 10 to 15 years. Yeah, but like when you win a World Series, I feel like that kind of mitigates a lot of

the disappointment, especially for a franchise like the Nationals, they don't have anything. And you crush it during that postseason. Absolutely. I think in his debut, Bobby Q was calling the game and said he was going to be a Hall of Famer in his first game Strasburg was supposed to be one of the best pitchers ever whether you win a title or not and win a World Series MVP or not because of where the expectations were that career can be considered nothing but a disappointment if skeins has Strasburg's career even now it will be considered a disappointment even if it wins a World Series title in Pittsburgh

He did play 12 seasons. He was 113 and 62 with a 3-2-4 ERA, but I agree with you. Like you're right. The expectations were set at such a ridiculous spot. This is not an indictment of Strasburg's career. It's an indictment of the expectations for Strasburg and an underestimation of what it is that the ravages of throwing a baseball that hard does to the human body. It's gonna be interesting to see with Skeens too

because we've entered this age of starting pitchers, not really throwing that deep into games. So when you go and end up looking at his stats, Dugat's like, he's not gonna have, no matter how long he pitches, he's probably not gonna have them any wins. Oh no, but he goes, he'll throw 100 pitches and go six or seven innings.

Oh, for now. Yeah, for now, right? And he's probably gonna get hurt because they all get hurt. Very few of them go. In fact, he hasn't had the Tommy John that he needs to have yet, right? Because they all have to have Tommy John

so they can come back as the second version of themselves. Because again, it's not a tenable human act to continue to throw a baseball that hard. Going back to Strasburg, so his career was 13 years, but it was really only 10, right? Like, all of his production was in those first 10 years, and then 2020 to 2022 was just constant injury high years. He just wasn't playing very much. He never really got to be himself again.

That list of things that... Who is it that wants it that badly? I love the idea of someone being like, well, you do get a softball game with all your friends, so now I really want in on this. 30 years of season tickets. Fine. But I get to play a softball game with all my friends. Well, it's on their field. I think for me, it's like a tour of the spring training facility. Ty Wiggington is going to be my coach. Oh, but I feel like anyone can get a tour of the spring training facility. This

is not what you keep the card. Hold onto the card, force somebody's hand. That's what you do, leverage. I'm at least putting it on, I guess if you put it on eBay, you have to actually go through with it. I wanna see what the eBay market is. You think you're gonna get something

better than 30 years value of season tickets? You can start a bid on eBay and then just if you're not happy with what you're getting, just end it. The problem is, yes you can, but the problem, Billy, is 30 years of season tickets to the Pirates. It's a commitment man, 30 years. I had one season of full season tickets

because I was tricked into thinking that's the only way I could go to the All-Star game. Yeah, what a scam, man. They got you. They got me too. I think Billy and I both had season tickets that year. I had an 81 that year. It was, dude.

You didn't go halfsies with someone? No, so I went, I split it with my family. We had five season tickets for 81 games. And we were like the first section where the price was like, boop, boop, and they dropped and I was like, okay, I can do this. Brother. I was on there, I was on there in the secondary market

wheelin' and dealin'. I felt alive that season. Oh really? Oh my gosh, yeah. I was gonna say it was probably disappointing because now you're realizing it's all a fire sale when you're on there. No, I was wheelin' and dealin'.

I was on there all day long. I was on there settin' the prices, raising it, lowering it, then I'd go out weeks ahead and be like, ooh, the Cubs are comin' to town. By the way, I don't like the Cubs. I don't like Joe Madden. Thank goodness for them winning the World Series the year before because ooh, that made me.

That three game series coming to town and it was a weekend series, oh my gosh. Let me tell you something, weekend prices, Mets prices, Cubs prices, another level. I only found out like a month left in the season that I had all these vouchers that I could use in addition to my tickets. Had I known that, oh I could have made a pretty penny

speaking of the Pirates on the Pirate season, on the Pirate series, that second weekend of the regular season, oh I would have made all my money back. I'm telling you, I damn near broke even, wheeling and dealing and I went to like 20 plus games. I felt alive, oh I went to the all-star game. Hell. Yeah, I went to the all-star fun If you didn't yeah, oh if I didn't go to the all-star game So I did it for that was the last of the good all-star games not the game itself

Even though I went to extra meetings that was the last of the good home run derbies and I stand by that comment Aaron judge Marlins Park that was a great home run derby. Billy, I have rarely seen you, felt you, heard you more alive than when you make the word brother rhyme with utter, like a cow's utter, and you make it brother. Like you were really. I may have like a verbal tick or something.

You were feeling pretty good. Maybe you're making fun of a disability. No, you were feeling. I'm also sick under the weather. You are sick, but you were summoning the cops of Hulk Hogan there. I feel like that if I arrived at the gates of hell I'm like, oh no, this is terrible and then they swung open and they're like 30 years of

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Sugar daddies these things I'm telling you. I love sugar daddies. I like to get stuck in your teeth. You can't chew them They're like impossible to chew. They are impossible to chew. Sugar daddies everyday. Stugatz This is the Don LeBattard show with the Stugatz The City Down Leather Tar Show with the StuGards. After one of wheeling and dealing, I like talked to my family. I go, this is fun. I'm glad we had this moment. I cannot do this for another season.

It's too much. I was at the hospital at the ER one day trying to figure out, I didn't want the tickets to go unused. So if I couldn't sell them, then I'm offering them to people because I didn't want them to go unused. It felt like a waste of money. So I'm like in the ER like, hey, anyone want to go to the Marlins game if I couldn't sell them, then I'm offering them to people, because I didn't want them to go unused. It felt like a waste of money. So I'm like in the ER, like, hey,

anyone wanna go to the Marlins game today? Can't make it, who wants to take these tickets? Dude, I'm gonna tell you, when I used to work for the Atlanta Hawks, we would get tickets like in the lower bowl, good ass seats. And I couldn't give them away. I was like, it's like, hey, the Mavericks are coming to town, Dirk Nowitzki, they're one of the best teams

in the league, nope, the only tickets that were worth anything were Lakers, Shaq and Kobe, Sixers, Allen Iverson, Knicks, because it's Atlanta and they're a bunch of New York people. There has never been any sort of atmosphere in Phillips Arena ever. Did you guys see, by the way, how Stu got sprung to life,

sprung to life when he could just shout into the microphones you gotta force somebody's hand Oh man, I love that. I thought we were gonna follow that threat. They're not offering enough I mean they're not for it's one of one. This is not a one-of-one experience. They're offering I mean seventeen other thousand fans seventeen thousand fans of pirate season tickets. That's a lot, that seems like it's too many. 5,000 fans have pirate season tickets! 30 years of season tickets behind home plate and we're laughing at it? This is a great deal! What are you guys talking about? There was a collectible shop that offered someone $250,000 for the card if they bring it in.

I think that's less. That's less than 30 years of ticketing, guys. 30 years of pirate tickets. It's first, it's like behind home play. What if you're a Pirates fan? I read that this is like in the millions of value. It is in the millions of value. Billy just got done saying it's in the millions of value.

And I do think that I speak for the general entitlement of this show as a sports consuming commodity that we would arrive at your 30 years of tickets and be like, don't think I want them. Don't think, do I have to go to all the Pirates games? Because I think most people listening to this would say that they don't wanna go to all the Pirates games. That a lot of those tickets are gonna be resold to others

because they just don't wanna watch Pirates Baseball. And you heard Billy stress, just selling the tickets is stressful, so you have to wait every year to sell them. It's not worth it. You're taking a loss on this. You're never gonna get face value. Right behind home plate,

let's say they sell those tickets for like $5,000 a game or something, you're obviously never gonna get $5,000. Also, here's another thing, and here's kind of what I was running into. It's not good for your health to go to 81 baseball games a year. Like it's just, and it's not because,

it's not like a shot at the team or the product or whatever, like imagine 81 days of stadium food, and then you're like a 10 game home stand, and it's like 10 straight days I'm going and it's like am I eating a hot dog? Am I eating nachos today? Like what am I eating? What am I drinking?

Like I'm in heaven right now. Human body was not made to do this. Guys you're forgetting about the softball game with your friends coached by Tony Womack and Ty Wiggington. That changes things. I will side with Jeremy on this. Seats behind home plate in a major league ballpark

are wonderful, magical things to have. But if you gave me the equivalent value and said to me, where would you like to spend this money? The very last thing on that list would be at Pirate Games for me. I'm saying if you give me the equivalent value, if you just tell me, because the card's worth this much, what they're telling you is if it's 30 years of tickets

behind home plate, they're telling you that that's what the card is gonna be worth. What if it's 30 years, two tickets behind home plate, but it's the raise? You don't know where you're gonna be. Now I've arrived at the gates of heaven. I can watch 30 years of Rays baseball. All muted though. If you don't find this card and you want to-

Angels singing. If you don't find this card and you don't get 30 years of season tickets and you still want to go to a game, you know what you got to do? You download the Game Time app. You download the Game Time app, you use code Dan, create an account,

you get $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply, download the Game Time app today. I did it the other day, I bought my wife concert tickets for the holidays, by far the lowest price of all of them. Game Time, you gotta go now. Jeremy, what time is it? Game Time? Chris, can you please dust off the back in my gay imaging?

We have not done this in a long time here. We're about to do back in my gay with Izzy Gutierrez. And now it is time to take a trip down memory lane. Here's your guide. Izzy Gutierrez with back in my gay. Insults! Or are they even insults? These days, guys who want to make a gay joke,

and let's be real, it's always guys. They usually accidentally say something that could be seen as a euphemism for a gay act, and then make sure everyone recognizes said euphemism, which encourages people listening to stop and think about gay stuff for a second. Is that an insult? Back in my gay, it was easy to tell when I should be hurt. A professional athlete of note out of pure hatred or maybe pure obliviousness would bark

out the hard f slur, get fined accordingly, and we'd all know who needs to take a visit to the HR department the next day. These days, Lomelo Ball is getting fined $100,000, the same amount Joel Embiid was fined for shoving a journalist in the locker room, and for what, a terrible joke? Ball, the last name of someone who probably suffered a lifetime of horrible gay jokes,

told a reporter on live television the reason they were successful defending Yannis Antetokounmpo was because, quote, we loaded up no homo. Let's dissect that for a moment, shall we? Mere minutes after getting a one point home win against a two time MVP, Ball decided in a millisecond to introduce a sexual thought.

While simultaneously announcing his own sexuality, just in case viewers at the moment thought to themselves, wait, is he still talking about basketball? I mean, Nohomo is basically just the that's what she said joke with a touch of phobia. Or maybe we're all looking at it backward and Nohomo is actually a hetero man's coming out. Either way, it's also pretty dated.

More recently, pause has become the popular line to drop after any gay sounding reference. I've always considered this one odd too. It's effectively giving listeners license and a short amount of time to stop and think of homosexual acts. Okay, but an insult? Certainly not to me.

Then there's the A.O. community, which is effectively pause, but with a more defensive posture. A.O. And this is certainly no offense to our pal Tony and apparently a mean too. Regular Ayoers. But this show already had a baby!

Hell yeah. And more recently a hubba hubba to acknowledge accidental sex references. The difference between those and Ayo is the latter comes only after gay sounding references and with the announcement, not in my backyard, pause. Here's the thing, I don't even hate these jokes, but let's just acknowledge these lines for what they are.

In the case of Ball, it was a lame joke with too harsh of a penalty. Other, more advanced attempts at comedy really haven't been that funny. I'd rather bring back gay euphemisms like, light in the loafers or a friend of Dorothy. What? Look it up.

Then pretend to laugh or feign offense. What I'm more offended by is people who don't know when a joke is dead. Perhaps the goal should be to load up on some new jokes. I'm not even gonna say. I'm Izzy Gutierrez and that's how it was back in My Gay. Alright, so I have a couple of questions for you. I knew you would. Follow-ups? And that's how it was back in my day. All right, so I have a couple of questions for you. I knew you would.

Nicely done. Follow-ups, I mean. Well, yeah, because he said too harsh, the penalty, $100,000 fine, which is the same that Embiid got for pushing a reporter. You thought the fine was too harsh. I did, and I also thought, well, by comparison, right? But Amin actually told me more information

when I walked in this morning. So on the episode of Basketball Illuminati that comes out today, we did a deep dive on the history of finds with Nohomo, slash, yeah, with Nohomo in the NBA. So the last player find for this was Cam Thomas. That was February of 2023. He got fined 40 grand for it.

Before him, Nikolaj Okicic in November of 2018, 25 grand. But before him, Roy Hibbert. This is kind of funny. Roy Hibbert, 2013, 75 grand. Why the big difference between Roy Hibbert, 75 grand in 2013 and five years later, Nikolaj Okic down to 25? Roy Hibbert was fined by David Stern. How about the difference between Joaquin Noah and Kobe

and how they were fine for using a slur? I mean, that's like I was mentioning in the thing, it's just the more obvious one. It's got more hatred behind it. It's not trying to drop a joke and have people laugh, and those are the more obvious, like, hey, get that out of your vocabulary. Kobe got fined 100 grand, 2011 for that.

Right, and that was, I thought, worthy. This, I don't think is the same thing. I think it's bad comedy. I do miss, I wish it weren't pejorative, just the phrase light in the loafers. I was thinking the same thing. Also misleading, by the way. But wait, Izzy, I just, quick question.

What did you mean by friend of Dorothy? Because... Isn't that you? Light in the loafers is misleading how? Hold on. I mean, do you need me to show you? That's the joke he was making. That's the joke the Tin Man was making.

You didn't get it until Izzy repeated it. Because Izzy's funny and Jeremy isn't. So when Jeremy says something, I automatically... You didn't laugh. He made the joke dressed as the Tin Man. I know. He's in silver. He made the same joke.

You refused to laugh at it and then you laughed uproariously when Izzy did it. This is the uphill battle that Jeremy's had to fight all this time. And Jay Leno. That's why I went on strike. You think Jeremy has had the uphill battle? Yes, he has. Not Izzy. No. Jeremy. We welcome Izzy. We laugh at Izzy's jokes. Him? No. Look, man, I did theater. I got the same jokes Izzy got. Season's Greetings, podcast audience. It's Mike Ryan. And now is that time of year where you start hosting your family gatherings, be it Thanksgiving, be it the upcoming holiday

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