The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

Is Julius Randle one of the best New York Knicks of the last 20 years? How much of a narcissist is Gregg Popovich for asking the San Antonio Spurs crowd to stop booing Kawhi Leonard? Then, it's time to play everyone's favorite game AGAINST THE SPREAD and listen to this week's Useless Sound Montage. Plus, we've met the Stugotz of the movie industry, and Billy has a new life hack that can hopefully make him a huge profit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertar Show with his two-gots podcast. Oh my God, somebody tweeted that Julius Randall's one of the best players in Nick's history. Well, like, what? Oh my god somebody tweeted that Julius Randall's one of the best players in Nick's history For you to know the last 20 years though, I mean not even come on. He's awful last 20 years last 20 years I mean last 20 years you don't have that we last he makes it makes a police report list last 20 what it put it put it on the pole Judeo at Levitard show is Julius Randall one of the best nicks of the last 20 years because I think he is He is 20 years you make an all-star team. You're on the pole, Judeo at Levitard show is Julius Randall, one of the best nicks of the last 20 years, because I think he is. He is. 20 years. You make an all-star team. You're on the list. 20 years takes you back to 2003. Right. So then Alan Houston is on that list. Is Alan Houston on that?

Alan, yes, he was. Oh, three. Yeah. Okay. He was there. I was. I'll concede that. You still have to, you have to have 15 strong car. Mel Anthony. Yes. He's on it. Amari's not amari. We're not. We're not doing. Are you going to put Jeremy Lynn on the first couple of months of Amari's

Stautomire? Yes. The first couple of days of June of the MVP. I think on the whole, I think on the whole of maris so better. Up to his peak. Then really. Amari's Nick career. Yeah.

But Julia's Randall's, but depth on Hold on. Hold on. Tyson Chandler. Okay. He's a player of the year. Pablo Pregioni. Deep boy. Yeah, we're not doing this. No. Julia's Randall makes a team.

He does. You don't want to give that to him. He's a starter on that team. No, he's not. He's yes. He's backing up a Mari. No. I what?

I want to stop this. I want to stop. He was good for his sports. Six weeks. Well, which is what I've had enough of Julius Randall in general. Mike Ryan called him an assortment of names during last year's playoff. Oh, he stinks. That were not. But he makes a team because that team stinks.

Yeah, you called him a garbage can. But I'm glad that we've got this combination of chemicals in here today because I've been wanting for a week to get to this story but I needed the right people to talk about it with. Marbury. Oh, well, Marbury. Starberry. He does. Dude, to Marbury.

Marbury does not make it. You're just saying. Marbury does not make it. You're just saying names. Marbury doesn't make it? No, you're cheating. You're just saying players that we rate at moments in time but certainly not during their mix years.

He was great with the mix. What are you talking about? I'm not sure. They weren't good. They weren't good. He was. No, he was. I'd rather have his Randall Randall's been good. I'd rather have Marbury. At forward, by the way. I mean, that's the way.

I'd rather have Marbury a powerful, more forward, really. But that's not the real thing. Come on. We're playing a conventional sense of people that aren't co-chairs of people who know ball. Last week, and I know this triggered Stugots because there is very little that Stugots hates more as the voice of the fan.

Anyone in sports who's being paid a lot of money, telling fans how to behave when Stugots believes that he is entitled as a customer to behave the way that he wishes to behave. Within reason, Dad. Yeah, but everybody defines that differently within reason is, and you extend that further out into the extremes than I do, because you don't mind heckling or insulting a player. When they deserve it.

And I don't, that's not for me, but on top of me. What's up to me? I decide that's within reason you decide what is your reason? I don't trust generally your reason. Your reason is not trustworthy to me. But when it not offended when it came to a coilenter returns is shooting free throws. And then Greg pop of it takes the fairly extraordinary act of like he's talking to a high school gym. He's a principal of some sort. Well, he wanted to be a D3 coach, Dan. And he talks to Spurs fans and he simply yells at them, yells at them into the microphone

that they are not, that that is not who they are. That San Antonio fans are classier than that. And he tells them to stop booing and heckling Kawaii Leonard. Who I think, and I don't know what the reporting has been on this, how accurate it is because the stuff around Kauai is so muddled and he's so quiet, but I'm pretty sure that Kauai feels failed by that entire organization led by Greg Popovich, and I think he feels failed by their medical staff, and it's part of why he left. And so those fans are mad at him, they booed him. What did you think of all that?

They have every right to boo Kawaii Leonard and what is pop doing? You have to have better things to do while you're coaching your team than doing that. Then grabbing a microphone and addressing the fans. You know what? I paid good money. And if I feel like I want to boo Kawaii Leonard,

who is now two or three teams removed from the San Antonio Spurs, left there under your watch, Greg Popovich, because you were doing something wrong. He was not comfortable there. He got out. He went to Toronto. Now he's with L.A. If the fans want to come back and boo Kawaii Leonard, they have every right to do so.

There are only a couple of times where a coach would grab a microphone in an arena and address the fans. Before the season, first game of the season, you address the fans, you think, I love that. Well, thank you message from the coach right before the season starts. We appreciate your support. That you can do it.

If fans are launching things onto the court order, a hockey rink or a field, things that are dangerous to players, then you you know a hockey rancor field things that are dangerous to players then you can grab a mic and address the fans okay the only other time is when a little girl is failing at singing the national anthem and you have to rush to help her out okay mochi great job by hit those are the only times you can grab a microphone if you're a head coach in the NBA you cannot do it when fans, and not all the fans were doing it, Dan,

not all the fans were doing it, just a handful of them were doing it. You cannot, while coaching a three-win team, come to the microphone and say, hey, stop booing, Kawaii Leonard. Give me a break. I'll boo whoever I want to boo, including you, pop. For the uninitiated, and this was a couple of days ago.

Terrible. I'm not totally sure you got the Maurice Cheek story totally right. I don't like, I didn't grab the microphone because I remember him just saying it. Yeah, but I remember him just sort of putting his arm around her, comforting her. I don't remember him picking up the microphone and talking. It's one of the great moments in American history. For me, it's top five, right behind Oshi. I mean, okay, very good.

For the uninitiated, this is old, but let's just check in on pop of it. Excuse me for a second. Pop some of my stuff. We shot all the bull and let these guys play. Oh, cut off. It's not who we are. Not off the bull.

Not who we are. Here's who we are. We tank to get women Yama. Lay off, Kawai Liner. I love that they booed more after he said, well, here's a thing. If you're pop, he's a smart guy. How can he had to know telling fans not to boo would make them boo more? And so me, okay, that's what I mean. I think he was he wanted more boost. No, I think he was. I think he was He wanted more boots. No, I think he was I think he was trying to make himself look like the good guy

Be like oh, no don't move and then he's like well of course they're gonna keep going And then it'll be more where he can say don't poke the bear still don't get it still don't get that Trying to save face with with Kauai Leonard on the line. He comes up guys stop. Let's stop this booing come on Kauai I got you or he was icing Kalei. The Kalei hates him. Exactly, that's why he's trying to say face. I mean, you had a great take on on, Ballon. I'm gonna ask you to microwave it real quick

because I came away watching this as it happened. What are you doing? This is clown behavior. And I don't know what's going on inside your mind. If you feel guilty about the whole Kalei thing, but we, the audience, are not your pawn in all this. That's a, you never see that. There's two different levels to this.

Level one is I want to ask Dan a question. Dan, you said, oh, you're not into like heckling whatever. Are you anti-bueing? Not heckling. Not calling people names. I'll talk about their family. Not using a bowing. Just the word boo.

No, I'm not, I'm not against. No, I'm not against booing. I'm not against booing. I, I'm not against booing. I'm not against booing. The part about this story that I found most interesting is that Popovich has been a king so long in that market that he actually thought going to a microphone and telling them the problem of working. I don't know that he thought I would work.

He absolutely thought I l Lord over all of this. Yeah, I run this town. And they're gonna be, oh, sorry, pop. I appreciate your theory, I do Charlotte. It's a great theory. You got a Zigg when they said it. If pop of it just indeed smarter than everyone and I don't know why it is, he took out Duncan

so that Bosch could get that rebound. But if he is smarter than everybody, absolutely, that is the third eye move of I will go over there. You want to know how I win in every circumstance. I will look like the good guy. I will look to everybody like I am protecting Kauai like I didn't win his body needed protection. Bang. But really what I want is more booze. But I'm going to get them to boom more. I'm arrogant. Yeah, you want to know the smartest thing ever.

Remember when they were three and two and everyone said, oh, maybe Wemba Nyama could take them to the playoffs. They've lost 12 games in a row. How smart is that? It's not a very nice imitation of me. I mean, of Mike Bryant. That was how Mike Bryant said it with his arms. I mean, I'm like the sweetest chef. Morgan, Morgan. Whenever I get excited, I with his arms. I'm like, this is my life. I'm like, this is my life.

Morgan, Morgan. Yeah, whenever I get excited, I quit my arms around and I make points. Oh, people are starting to open their eyes. This is my pop point, beyond just the right to boo. Everyone in sports has a right to boo. We can't take that away. To act like that's unclassy or whatever.

Shut the hell up, number one. Especially a guy who left your franchise. And once or where else, that's my point that I draw in Oddball, which is the reason they're booing, because he didn't do this when they boot Paul George or they boot anybody else. The reason they're booing that guy is because he's a villain in San Antonio.

Why is he a villain in San Antonio? Because when he was hurt and he said, I'm not ready to play, the Spurs organization used every single dirty trick of leaking stuff repeatedly, consistently to the press. He's not that hurt. Tony had the same injury and then we had a team meeting

and they did all of those things to make him look like trash. And so the fans are like, yeah, this guy is not down for the cause, like Tony and Mono and Timmy. So of course they boom, you taught them to boo him. I don't think that people totally understand what an enormous source of tension in the offices of basketball it is, the load management questions to God's. When the Miami Heat are paying Jimmy Butler $500,000 or $600,000 a game. Do you think they want to be hearing

from him or his agent on he's not playing the second night of back-to-backs? Like just across the sport. It's not just Jimmy Butler. I'm just make it across the sport. Do you think any of these people, when it's $500's 500 to $600,000 a game? Right. You are paying. They don't want to hear it damn and and where it is that co- Especially during the in-season tournament. I mean Coilandered ended up. I can't think of a lot of people that San Antonio's fan base are Angrier about that have played there in the history of that market then they had a superstar They watched win a championship somewhere else

who didn't trust the organization medically about his body and left. For me, it was just really about pop and he thinks his words matter. He thinks his words matter more than anyone else's words. He thinks his hugs after the game matter more than any other coaches hugs after the game. Like who made pop, who put pop in charge of the NBA and player relations in the NBA Every single game the opposing star that he's playing against gets a big handshake a big hog a big smile And pop thinks it means more to that player than any hog any smile any handshake from any other coach at He's wrong overrated pop

That's not that good of a coach. I mean, put it on the poll at Levitard show does Greg popovich thinks his hugs matter more than the hugs of other human beings do it without Hall of Famers, damn about that. As as one myself, that was ego maniacal behavior from Greg pop of it. That was narcissistic right there. That's what all that was. And takes one to know one.

And also is distancing himself from the Frankenstein's monster that he created. Right? It's not just narcissistically like an... Oh, you're gonna make me the bad guy here? You want to feel better about yourself. So you're just gonna tell this amorphous blob of fans that they're the ones that are wrong. No, it's ridiculous. And to me, it all comes down to like you said, narcissism. David Lee, I take over.

Don Lebatard. Mino Hassan. Stougatz. Mino Hassan. This is the Don Lebatard show with an stugatz. Yeah, let's go! Oh! He's getting into it, Mike. Wow.

What a year against the spread we've had. And we're coming down to the wire as the year is ending. And we are so close to the big grand prize. Oh, and you could be there. On hand, in person, to see the big grand prize, hand it out to the winner of Against the Great on December 11th whether or not the dolphins get flexed out or not that doesn't matter

It's brought to you all by Miller Light and Dollar Shave Club and it's going down a 15 at the Miller Light Stage at Vivo Miami in Doral Dolphin mall for you Mall, free of the public, all ages, come out and touch Dan Levitard. Dan, you kick us off even though you're mathematically eliminated. Dan, you kick us off. On against the spread. You got Dan up. So I have to pick a game from this evening,

from later in the week. You can pick it in a full-play. If you like, you know how this works. Throughout the weekend, Dan. You do this thing. Yeah. Were you pretending not to know the rules? I lack some advertising.

I lack some enthusiasm for this segment. I want to get to the useless sound montage. So you should pick up the pace then. Wait, if someone wants to get done with something quickly, they can get it right. We'll take the dolphins. Really? Let's start.

I don't know anything about what the spread is. You can't just say I'll take the dolphins. You got to do the whole thing. Everyone knows how this goes. I don't have the point spread. You're going to say I'm taking the dolphin. Minus 10 and a half. Minus 10 and a half.

The dolphins minus 9 and a half again. The spread. Now over to Sue Gatz. 10.5 the dolphins minus nine and a half again Now over to Sioux Gods Mike there's a big game this weekend in college football there are several big games in college football I'm gonna go with the SEC championship game I've been telling Georgia all year to do it against Alabama They have a chance to do it this weekend and they're not gonna do it. Therefore. I am taking Alabama a chance to do it this weekend and they're not going to do it. Therefore, I am taking Alabama plus five and a half according to draft games to win the game, cover the spread, win the game outright and cover the spread. So Alabama plus five and a half again.

This is bread. Now listen, buy the hook at a little money line when heard either. I mean, Jessica, why are you so angry about that? She took mine. I'm an Alabama fan now, Dan O'Bammer. Oh, but out of here. Stugots took my pick, so I'm gonna take the Georgia Bulldogs. Wow. Mine is five and a half against Alabama. Here. Again.

That was brilliant. That is a great strategy that she just deployed because she's trying to win this grand prize. And she's aware of what Stugots, that's a championship advantage. Basically, because she just your business buying it down the five or what is your confusion there Billy that she was going to take

Alabama and then she just takes Georgia because to God's took Alabama. Yes. I'm trying to win the game. Really? Look, he learned. I am rooting for a chaos

scenario in the college football playoff. Either two SEC teams or no SEC teams of Alabama wins. You can't do one in one. Something crazy has to happen, which is why I wanted Alabama. But since Duke Attswick, Alabama, and I won the game, I'm taking Georgia against this threat. Another route for chaos.

The cast of Oddball hasn't been with us for the entire time we've been doing against the spread, but for them, we've made a special exception where it's just winning percentage, not overall record. What? And that put them into contention to get the big mystery prize at Dolphin Mall on December 11th at the Miller Light Stage. So you have to be present to claim the prize.

Yeah. Good point. Judges, I mean, we'll go over to you. No, you don't have to be present. You can pick it up the day after. Perfect. All right, great. Which coincidentally is when I fly in. Yeah, but it also may affect your ability to win the prize wise up because it's all subject

Because no one is keeping record no Untrue no I have it on my set up in first place What's my what's my percentage Mike? Yeah, it's up there. It's up there. I don't even know how to play the game I PTSD from trying to play this game Well, if you get to watch a mean do it and then you go after it guys the Denver Nuggets are seven and a half point favorites against the Rockets, but here's the deal to Mall Murray

maybe coming back Aaron Gordon maybe not playing Yokecch maybe not playing also peaton Watson maybe not playing a lot of questionables I'm going to go with the Houston Rockets plus seven and a half. Again, the red. It is brought to you by Draft King Sportsbook. Use code Dan, when you sign up on the app or at limited time offer for new customers, Charlotte Wilder.

You're up next. Well, I panic whenever this happens, and I turn to Jessica. And she helps me out, and'm gonna take Oregon against Washington at minus nine and a half That is a gutsy sure I'm gonna be quick with it I agree and I'm gonna take your very same pick because I want to keep pace with one of the lead I've been betting against Washington for the last month and a half and by God. I'm gonna get him With one of the lead dogs, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and they already beat Oregon. What is happening here? I mean, they've been playing really close games against. I know. Not so great opponents, even though Wazoo is rival again.

But they keep winning them. They've been winning on them, right? And now you're giving me nine and a half. So I test. So you got said, I know without realizing where you were going with that statement. It does that premature right now. Yes.

I know when I understand or think so that he doesn't have to listen anymore to what he's been doing. Listen. Billy, are you ready? I know when I understand or things so that you doesn't have to listen anymore Billy are you ready? Oh, I'm ready You're gonna go now Preferably Tony go ahead. Oh, wow Tony Ladies and gentlemen good morning Hi, it's up the Wotsco Center High noon tip off for your Miami Hurricanes. I love a high noon. Jazz band and sneakers as we've mentioned. There is no spread for this game yet, but I will be taking the Miami Hurricanes.

Whatever this bread is. Oh, there's the spread. Brought to you by Gus Machado. I'm a singing as a guy. Miami Miami minus 40. You've got to sing it as a gaki. Against the spread. The spread. Bailey, what do you got? I'm going to go to the world highlight league, Dan, this Friday, the renegades are going against the wall warrior.

This one. That's not listed. It is listed. And I'm going to go game two. High level battle games. Yeah, it's here, right here. Battle court is on draft games. Proud partner.

Game number two, Williams and UBya against Joseph and Kareya. If I was top one thing, it's always bet against Kareya. So I'm gonna take Williams and Ubiya. Nice. I don't think that's against the spread. It's not that good. That's good. That one is.

And I know what I take, I'll take the Colt-Mine as one. Over the time. Now you're suck with that. Well, no, I'll take the Colt-Mine. Yeah, okay. I'll, we'll allow it. Parlay, Parlay. I'm trying to close this thing out, baby.

You're always alleging that I don't do this correctly because I go over-unders, I go total, I go a money line, I got it, and you say it's gotta be against the spread. Yeah, they're minus 475, so by my understanding, they have to win by 475 points and I think they will. Again, the spread.

Again, the spread. The spread, the spread. You are locked in and lead dog status. You're going to win that oversized gummy bear. Oh shit. It didn't grow. It didn't grow. It's slightly grooked. You know what? I took a picture. I'll send it to our video department. How about how about? Yeah. Charlotte, if you're not familiar with what it is Billy is talking about, there he is falling for an internet trick of throwing gummy bear in the fridge and add some things to it and watch it grow to the sides of the water yeah oh Billy it's slightly good no it's slightly good oh it lost its color though you got to check the

doctor yeah but how how big was it alleging that it was going to get and how much bigger did it actually get and why did you fall for this stupid internet thing? Well, what I felt for it is that, you know what, if I buy a four and a half pound bag of gummy bears and I put one in and I grow it to, you know, to become five pounds, they sell those things for $20, I'm dumb not to try and be making money. Really? Really, it's reading this like a pumpkin growing competition.

Correct. You're going to go up against other big gummy bears in William. Well, here's the thing a pumpkin growing competition. Correct. You're gonna go up against other big gummy bears and way up. Well, here's the thing about pumpkin growing. Now that we're talking about that. What happened there, Charlotte? Go sit in the penalty box. Sorry. Go sit in the title.

We're trying to find our for linking the components. For falling apart and then just spinning some, into the microphone. So, I'm gonna have to go. Here's a question for the parents in the room that I'm wondering, do you ever get home early on and the Halloween season in your kit has grown from a pumpkin seed a little sprout in a cup?

Yeah. Yeah, so I have that going on and I was thinking, this day I'm keeping it alive and putting water. If I put that thing in my backyard, I have a pumpkin farm and I'm just making money. They say that they were once owned by Elvis. Are you ready for useless sound? Play it. Well, give me a second. What is the computer buffering? I screwed Lewis up. Do you really? It's tough to win football games during the ball over that many times.

Into the Super Bowl is a goal. But we're going to just take it a week at a time. That's all we can do. You get mentally more tough throughout the year when you go through ups and downs. The biggest argument we can have had is who has the last piece of pizza. So got a lot of respect for Wink, done a good job, so I'll leave it at that. I think the best thing about us though, it's about us. It's about us being together.

We're at what we're at, and we're just causing limits to you. We have everything we want in front of us, but we just got to take it one game at a time. Whether it's a penalty, whether it's a mispass, whether it's a psych, we got to be on the same page at the same time. Parts of the game, we look very functional. Other parts of the game, we don't. So we didn't match their level of effort

and enthusiasm throughout the game. Guy loves to compete, loves to play football. We've only scratched the surface. What lessons do I take from it? Don't take anything for granted. We anticipated it being a four quarter game. We won nine games, and all those games had to be closed out in the fourth quarter,

one way or another. These games are tough, they're tight, they're close. We just lean on each other in these moments. That's really all we can do. This is the national football league, and anybody can be anybody. He's one of those guys. He loves competing, and when you've got that natural just zest and enjoyment for going out there and playing the game, and then, oh, by the way, you're really productive.

I'm learning each week. You know, I think we had some injuries early on. You know, that's not acceptable to make an excuse, but we had injuries. One man's misfortune is another man's opportunity. What you like about him is a way he came back. Our guys turned that game back around where it felt like we're going to come back and go get it done.

And we had that sense of halftime that we could. And so it was good to see that happen almost. It almost got there. You know, I thought he stayed in there, kept battling, you know, but I'll get to the tape and just take a look at all of it to make sure I'm making a smart answer. I'll make sure I have an answer, a better answer for you guys tomorrow, but thought he battled.

There's a tough thing to do to want a game like this after a big Monday night game, and then Thanksgiving, you know, you get the trip to Fatton Hanger, or so you've got to work through that. You know, we did what we needed to do to win. There are no moral victories. Each and every one of us have to look at ourselves, and like I told you, that starts with me and and that's what you do guys Like myself and Kenny man. We're judge based on winning and losing and and we don't run from that. We run to that So here in our winners today

I love that your coach He doesn't run from any runs to it everything he says I'll let off. It's a poem Don Lebertard well Charlie sent this Charlie as far as I know so just Charlie's title in my You gonna stay in these two guts How familiar were you at the time with Chewbacca? Like how you're upbringing how had how had how much Chewbacca in it?

This is the Don Lebathar show with the Stu Gats. It is too bad that Stu Gats just fled the studio chased by authorities because I needed an expert for the story I'm about to tell you that I simply don't understand. I don't understand how some of this is possible. I've lived in Florida all my life. I know about corruption.

I know about scammers. You live in Miami. You know that people can get away with those, you know, scamming those COVID loans. Every day, there was a new story about somebody spending millions of dollars here that was supposed to go to some other cause that goes to jewelry or something else. But I'm reading about a director named Carl Rinch, who is only movie is 47 Ronin, which is not the Ronin I know.

It's the Ronin with Deniro that I'm always scanning through and finding somewhere on the television, just like the Italian job is always on somewhere. This Ronin is not that Ronin. I don't know what 47 Ronin is. It's a cannery's vehicle. It got a 16 on Rotten Tomatoes. That is the one film this person has made. And evidently, Netflix gave him $55 million to do a sci-fi series that has

not produced a single episode, but did produce this director buying five rolls' voices, a Ferrari, clothing, fancy clothing, furniture. He also made a lot of money. This was not losing money on the 55 million He made a lot of money on dogecoin and with other you know volatile stocks and I ask you a mean As someone who worked in a big business that gave out a lot of money How does this happen that Netflix gives this human being $55 million dollars and he goes on a spending spray and it's been a while now, I think it's been more than 18 months and they haven't gotten anything in return for their investment.

I think that when it comes to creative stuff, there is an element of, we give you money and then you go off and you do, it's not like he's showing up to Netflix HQ and clocking in and doing his work. Like, have you done your work yet? I'm getting there boss, it's not like that, right? It's like, he goes to his studio and does whatever it is he does,

and they say, how's he going? Oh, good, here's some slides, here's some dailies, whatever. And it's easy to fake that stuff, and meanwhile, you're not creating anything actually. In a sports environment, it's a lot more crazier because there is kind of a day to day, we see what you're doing, you are clocking in. I remember when I was with the suns towards the end,

our general manager was using the organization as like just a bankroll personal trips to have fun right. So the Maui classic would start on a Tuesday. He'd show up on the private the prior Friday just just to be in Hawaii for the weekend before the Maui classic gets started. Hey. That's a good move. This is insane. There's something very weird going on here. I know a lot of people trying to get movies made,

or shows made, it's unbelievably difficult. So for Netflix, it's basically impossible unless you're gonna bootstrap it yourself to get something made. If you have a critical dud, like if you have no movie or a bad movie, it's almost impossible to get a movie made to get money from these major people.

What's going on? Who is this guy related to? What are they trying to cover? Like this is the end of fact, in the times it's a John Kerry Roo story who broke the Theranos story, and something very weird is going on here. Well, hearing the details red to me,

it kind of feels like Netflix in giving him that seed money was funding something very weird is going on here. Well, hearing the details read to me, it kind of feels like Netflix and giving him that seed money was funding a project about this. If you wanna have your suspicions about stuff on the internet, what is the internet without its conspiracy theories, the whole plot behind the movie is that they gave him $55 million and he did all this with it and that would be subject to a Netflix special.

I would love if that were the conspiracy theory that... What is this like you guys in? Consider that? Fire festoon? I think the plot is he pitches them, give me $55 million and I'm not actually going to make anything. I am going to be the central focus of this special. I'm going to try to make as much money as I can on Dogecoin.

Here's a thing though, then they would need Hulu would also have had to do that, so they could have had the dueling documentary. It's like Fire Fest. How tired are you guys of that of finding the story of Mother God over here, and then it's three other movies are being made elsewhere? Like we really have seen a golden age of content making come crashing to a halt that has gone from a bunch of different people will tell the same story to three times on the different streamers because-

Michael Lakers. Yeah. A number of different stories, but then the industry kind of closes down and it's super hard right now to get much of anything made by anybody because the industry kind of closes down and it's super hard right now to get much of anything made by anybody because the industry has been in such turmoil over the last eight to 12 months. I mean, like there's two things going on. One is, like Charlotte said, it's hard to get something done.

As we're a content company that is actively pitching documentaries and we're spearheaded by the former head of ESPN, The dude from 47 Ronan just waltzes into Netflix and he's like, I don't know if you've seen 47 Ronan. So there's two things though, Mike. One is like, have you ever made anything? The only thing worse than not having made or made something bad is not having made anything. So having made something automatically gets you in the door in a way that everyone else

with even great ideas can't. Even if it's 47 Ronin, right? Even if it's 47 Ronin, right? But then the other part of this, and this is the critical element is Hollywood isn't kind of enthralled by this concept of IP. Is this an original new idea? Shut up, go away.

Is this something based on something from somewhere else? Tell me more. And that's why every movie you see now is an adaptation of a video game or a book or another movie that was made a long time ago or a TV show because everything is IP driven. So I'm curious to see like what is it that specifically about his project

probably had ties to something else. I think this is the project. It could be that he worked with Ridley Scott. He came from him, maybe just having worked in that production company. A bellicent tree. Yeah, truly. He could, yeah, he could be Charlie Weiss,

the Charlie Weiss of movie making, where he just gets a shot because he was Ridley Scott adjacent. By the way, that buy out, looking like a good deal right about now. Go for Charlie, good friendy. Do you think, speaking of money issues, do you think when you hear the Joe Smith story, when he tells Vlad TV that he went from making $61 million in his career to being down to $3,000.

You believe that is how common in sports. It's a bit of a cliche, Billy Corbin made a movie for ESPN about based on subject. Yeah, based on broke, based on the article by a young sports illustrated writer who was not AI was named Pablo Torrey. Did you guys know that? He wrote the story that the documentary is Bitcoin. Bringing us back full circle to what IP ladies and gentlemen, they want IP. They want to see that it succeeded somewhere else. But I was asking you

about Joe Smith. Okay. losing 61 million dollars. Joe Smith, almost when you play word association with me on the name josmith i think of made a ton of money because every time he signed a contract it was a big deal in that sport josmith was a was a company he was a coveted person now it's camera that's it you know what is a mind is glintaylor because so to give people background who don't know josmith josmith player who's a number one overall pick and he wasn't really good enough to be the one overall pick.

His draft had Rashid Wallace and Chris Weber and John Howard and a lot of better players. But he went number one overall and but he was a good player. So he gets the Minnesota and he's about to be a free agent and he's gonna sign a big deal. He's gonna sign a one-year deal or something to get him to the bird rights and then Minnesota promises him, hey, just get through this, get your bird rights and we'll give you this massive deal. So he agrees. But his agent is worried. His agent is worried that the owner of the Timberwolves, who is very old at at the time won't be alive to make good on that deal

So they make this under the table deal in writing and the leak finds it and as a result the contract is voided and The Timberwolves get like the death penalty three first round picks taken away and Kevin McHale has to stay away from the team for a year and all the stuff right my favorite part about the story The owner's name is Glen Taylor. He's still alive. He's that was in the year 2000. It is 23 years later. He is still alive.

That's still owns the team technical. That is your favorite part of this story. I love it. I love that I did Dan like we got to have this in writing. I wonder if he's about to kill over. I can't just trust that the next guy is going to honor this agreement, put it in writing, have this in writing. I got what have he got he's about to kill over. I can't just trust it The next guy is going to honor this agreement put it in writing put in writing so I can sleep well at night 23 years later. He's alive and kicking there he is right there ladies. He's 82 years old now and so he was

159 I thought he was going to kick it Forgive me because now that we have the video of Glen Taylor Forgive me because now that we have the video of Glen Taylor, it reminds me that I've forgotten to go to other video that we have, the investigative work of one Billy Gill. He went into his fridge, he took a single photograph and Billy, if you'd like to introduce this story so that people can see how you wasted your time by partaking in an internet scam. I did no such thing. We had a vacation, we had some days off for the holiday, and I liked, my mind doesn't take days off, I like to investigate things, so I saw on the internet

that if you put a gummy bear in with some salt and some water, that it'll grow. So I said, you know what? It seems like free money to me if I just buy a pack of gummy bears, I can have these giant gummy bears that could, you know, start a company, whatever, sell them, they'll be a little wet, but whatever. So when I did it, it took about two seconds to do, set it and forget it. The refrigerator does all the work for me, and then here are the results of set experiment.

It is bigger. Now, it is a giant bear. I only left it there for about two days. I feel like maybe this is a long-term commitment. I left it there maybe two months or more. What's the scale? Are these both giant gummy bears next to one another? I think you can see from the... I think you can see from the...

I think you can see from the... You can see from the weave of the paper towel, Mike. Yeah, well, that's a giant paper towel. That's a giant paper towel, too. You put that in the refrigerator as well. It's actually a duvet cover. Billy, it's pretty close. It is pretty close to being twice the size.

It's inflated, but I don't know how much flavor you lose once you've lost the color. I would put that thing in my mouth. The color of the, well, what's the point of making it getting more gummy bear if you're going to put less of it in your mouth? I'm selling them. Billy, I'll eat it, bring it in.

Plain. It's in the trash. I'll cook up another one today. Thank you. Charlotte, you've been over the key. I'm sure that's the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the best way to get the

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