The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Celebrating Bill Walton

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

There are NEVER enough monster ballads for this group and our very own white snake. Then, we pay tribute to one of the most positive figures in sports history and one of our all-time favorite guests, Bill Walton. Plus, Ron Magill is here to discuss the animal kingdom and whether or not HE likes Rudy Gobert. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dan Leventor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. So we mentioned that we miss sex scenes in movies and we miss monster ballads. And in talking about monster ballads, Dan, I also realized there was something else from a bygone era that wasn't super convenient and it's probably better today because it can just with the touch of a finger

put together an epic playlist for whenever you go out on the boat or something. But compilation CD commercials on your television set. As you're watching Fresh Prince of Bel-Air on UPN or whatever, you could count on every break someone reminding you that hey, there was this era in music where there was just straight bangers. And the first one I want to play is of course Monster Ballads. Give us something to believe in. They taught us how to live. Can you take me higher?

And now they're back. Monster balance. All of these white people with long hair, man. Wait, wait, wait. I think Living Colors around. Oh, okay. Put it on the poll, Juju, at Levitard Show. Did poison teach you how to love and how to live? Winger!

Oh, so good. So bad. Just historically echoing bad. This is a time, Lucy, you're smiling because you're being introduced to all of these feathered hair rockers from the 80s, but I would assume that you had wished you hadn't been introduced to any of them. No, are you kidding?

This rocks, we should do this on the show more. I love this, let's play another one. Yeah, do we have other ones? Because there's a big three in 90s compilation CD lore, especially when you start introducing the commercials to it. I'm not just, now that's what I call music, that's amateur shit, okay? That doesn't count.

Pure moods is what I'm talking about. A CD commercial that made you wanna buy the CD. ["Pure Moods"] Imagine a world where time drifts slowly. A world where music carries you slowly. Is that a unicorn? That is, of course. And pretend like you don't remember the commercial for Pure Moods. Experience Pure Moods.

The perfect soundtrack for your way of life. They had tubular bells on this one, which always scares me. Crockett's theme. My partner here, Stugatz, knows me very well and he knows when it is that I can get insecure on things and during the last break he just said to me, Dan, shake it off there, I know you've been reeling since putting Washington in the Marino Super Bowl. And I- Someone had to say it.

And I do do that, I went to Mother's Day brunch with my mom and so I'm talking to two 80 year olds and I'm talking to them about the 86 Mets but they keep talking to me about the 1969 Mets because the 17 years have come together. And when you play these kinds of monster ballads here for me and take me back to the 80s and that time, you're bringing me back emotionally here

to earlier in the show where I am indeed still reeling from putting John Riggins in the Marino Super Bowl. Dan, I've got one commercial that'll give you an anchor that'll center you. I'm talking about living in the 90s. Oh, boy. Anything goes. Right here, right now.

Watching the world wake up, world wake up. I actually had a thought the other day When I was I'm listening to Sirius XM And I was thinking something to myself because I wonder how often this happens and on Sirius XM. They were saying coming up at 9 p.m Which was like six or seven hours later coming up at 9 p.m We will do the top 40 hits from this week in the 70s And I thought to myself how can you do that in the modern age? Where you're telling people in an appointed time to go listen to music six hours from now and expecting people to be there

I like how does that work that work as a menu option? Is there anybody who was listening to that at the time that I was listening to it that was saying to themselves, you know what? I wanna hear the voice of the late Casey Kasem going through the top 40 in the 70s six hours from now. I love Casey Kasem. We used to listen to him all the time.

Wow, threw me back. I love this video though. This is really good stuff. They don't make them like this anymore. Not sold in stores. You had to buy it off of that commercial. You had living in the 90s? I mean, where else could you get all those singles?

A lot of one hit wonders there. Before you would have to buy an entire album. I think for the 80s though, I think there's a captain of that team and the captain is Whitesnake. Yeah. Yeah, just in terms of balance, right? It was always, was it Tawny Catane?

The model that was in like all those videos? Yeah. Not surprising that you would find an ally in a Whitesnake. If. Hey! You're back! That's good joke writing, you're back. In the 1980s, if you had a a convertible hood she was on top of it

Lucy have you ever heard Casey Kasem angry have you ever heard the famous? clip of Casey Kasem getting infuriated because his producers had asked him to tape something after a dog had died dedication and he couldn't get it right, so he flips out on the producer. The audio quality's not great, but let's see if we have that. We're up to our long distance dedication. And this one is about kids and pets

and a situation that we can all understand, whether we have kids or pets or neither. It's from a man in Cincinnati, Ohio, and here's what he writes. Dear Casey, this may seem to be a strange dedication request, but I'm a man in Cincinnati, Ohio, and here's what he writes. Dear Casey, this may seem to be a strange dedication request, but I'm quite sincere, and it'll mean a lot if you play it. Recently, there was a death in our family. He was a little dog named Snuggles,

but he was most certainly a part of, let's come start again, from coming out of the record. Play the record, okay? Please. record. Play the record, okay? Please. See, when you come out of those up-tempo damn numbers, man, it's impossible to make those transitions and then you got to go into somebody dying. You know, they do this to me all the time. I don't know what the hell they do it for, but damn it, if we can't come out of a slow record, I don't understand it. Is down on the phone? Okay okay I want a damn concerted effort to come out

of a record that isn't a up tempo record every time I do a damn death dedication now make it and I also want to know what happened to the pictures I was supposed to see this week it's a god last damn time I want somebody uses brain to not come out of a damn record. That is a, that's up temple. And I got to talk about a dog dying. I can't really imagine somebody who did the voice of shaggy and Scooby-Doo talking like this. Right. Sounds great though. I mean, so I'm on his side. Yeah. Same here. Yep. And hearing it again, shame on Don. Yeah. Someone's letting him down. It's done. Done. Done. On the phone. He does done. And he needs to see these pictures.

You've very clearly been putting this off for weeks, Don. Yeah, hurry it up. That was really upsetting. Do you guys ever listen to Delilah? I don't know if she was local in my hometown or not, but she was lovely people. She was always on the Christmas station, and then people would call in with her life problems.

And it was always a goal of mine to have a problem big enough that I could call Delilah and get her take on it. But I was like 14, so I didn't really have a say. I just make one up. I got John Tesh doing that down here locally. Delilah. Tesh was our guy. It is strange. It's like hearing Garfield be enraged. It's like hearing a cartoon enrage. There are very few people whose voice is so soothing to me upon hearing it been scully and yet I

Heard where it is that he got pissed off and where he got pissed off is on the word snuggles There's a dead dog named snuggles and they made him come out of they made they write They made him come out of an uptempo song and he couldn't get the right energy and tone To give you his soothing cartoon voice. The next thing you know, he's lashing out at Don. Don about the pictures, about all of his resentments at work because Casey Kasem was carrying that shit for a long time and he had a whole bunch of resentments underneath on he had to carry the show

and didn't have enough teammates like Don doing what they were supposed to be doing. Look at what a conversation that spawned out of, you know, there needs to be a good photojournalism movie made. Look where it took us. Casey Kasem, I'm surprised that Lucy has anything in the way of access to him because it's a million years ago. Yeah, you don't remember the Miami Zombie, but you remember Casey Kasem. I was not allowed to listen to music I wanted to growing up.

My dad was very like, you're gonna like what I like and that is just the final say. So we listened to a lot of Kasey Kasem. That's why I'm a Dead fan. And clearly it's the reason that you, your dad didn't like Bruce Willis on the harmonica or didn't like Don Johnson in Heartbeat. It was Heartbeat.

Oh, I'm sorry. It was a big moment in time because I would always, for whatever reason, whenever Casey Kasem was wrapping up his America's Top 40 countdown, I was always in the car with my dad when number one would be revealed. I don't know why, maybe it was church or something, but we would always be in the car together.

And when Sheryl Crow overtook Boyce Men for the number one spot, it was like my world ended. That was a big weekend. A two-american show. Just a terrible week for me. I love, I'll make love to you. Are you guys surprised that Adonis Haslam is good on first take? No. No.

Not at all. I'm surprised UD's at ESPN. I'm just surprised he's doing any of it, I guess. I shouldn't be surprised that he's good at it, but I'm surprised that he's doing any of it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he's good at it, but I'm surprised I'm surprised that he's doing any of it and he said the other day in terms of getting geared up for the take He's like LeBron's not going anywhere. He's not leaving Los Angeles under any circumstance. It just said it flatly I'm interested to see how the heat feel about it because he's technically an employee for them Like Riley didn't love what he said about Tyler a few weeks ago

You believe that yeah no you D showed up to TV with a mission in mind that day Riley two weeks later Tyler heroes listing his house that's how that one goes it did get listed at 13 million dollars very quickly the you think that UD was a rogue agent there. Why would Riley, there's no reason, why does Riley have to come out and defend Tyler Hero? Because he's, because in this situation, he's good cop. This is all part of the plan, guys, come on. I believe Riley there.

Jeremy, why are you making faces? I just have a lot of questions about who is supposed to be planting what stories where, finally a Heat voice, I guess, in national media on ESPN, but he's there to try to tear down a player whose value the Heat would want higher if they were trying to trade him. So I'm just sort of a little confused about the thread.

You need to make it ugly. You got UD to make it ugly. You ordered the Code Red. Well, they always do have UD to make it ugly That's not how you do first take though. If you're you did like you have to have a take I mean, you can't just be LeBron's going nowhere make something up. I love that though. That is a good take though LeBron just declared for free agency The Lakers seem to be doing everything in order to trying to get a position to get him back and you don't is is saying flatly What do you mean to come up with a better take than that one? What is your take? He's going anywhere, but LA that's the take a

lie Yeah, I mean you are a white snake Something that's totally uninformed It's a guess. It's not a power We should get Tony contained to like crawl all over your desk. Yes, we should do this, but instead of a power ballad love song, what Stu Gott should do is a power hate song, a power hate ballad, where he's just an enormous hater. Backstreet's back.

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Bill Walton joins us now on 790. Dan, great to be with you today. Likewise Bill, thank you for coming with the usual, the customary energy that you come with. I'm fired up and ready to go. The NBA's 65th season is underway it's going to be the best the most successful the most exciting and the most profitable one in NBA history. We are planning on the miracle we are

seeking shelter from the storm we are listening to electric on the eel as we approach the days between in the summertime here. I'm pretty certain I've been to two or three dead-end company shows with Bill, but Bill doesn't know he's been to two or three with me. It's unbelievable. I know, I do know Stu Gotts, yeah, because I'm the luckiest dude in the world, man. I found basketball when I was eight years old,

three years after I found my bike. And then, just one year later, I found Chick Hearn on the radio, and that changed everything for me. When I was 15, I found the Grateful Dead, Stu Gotts, UCLA and John Wooden. Then when I was 17, I found the ultimate mentor, Ernie Van Der Waay.

28, Marty Glickman taught me how to speak. When I was 37, I found the woman of my dreams, Lori, the greatest everything ever. She's not a thing, but I can't think of a better word than everything. Things change along the way as it often does with The Grateful Dead Show. And man, the way they opened last night

up in Burgess Town in Pennsylvania, just west of Pittsburgh there, wow. Hell in a bucket into Alabama getaway. They were rocking last night to be able to follow it all on nugs.net. And you guys, I hope to see you out there ASAP. I'm not sure what shows you're going to be able to get to, but look for me. I'm the tall guy with the big smile on his face. Hopefully Kevin will be able to continue to play well. You never know. It's a basketball game. It's a dead show. It's a Dan Leventhaler show.

You never know what's going to happen. You never know what's gonna happen. You never know when you're gonna go. The Coney Oakage is like, well, one of the Florida Keys. Or he's like the big river of water coming right down through central Florida and ending up there in the Everglades and just making it all happen. But just watch out for all the alligators in there. Dan Leventhal show, do God's work. See you on the road. See you on the road. See you on the road. Leventhaler shows. He is a spiritual gangster.

When you've been, Dan, where I've been, when you have a life that's not worth living because of the orthopedic spine issue that I've had over the last few years, and then you get better and your life is never the same again and you everything is different and what it teaches you is the ultimate lessons in life perspective, relativity, tolerance and patience and as we are faced in a world that's wracked by greed and selfishness. We have so many people who are trying to do so many good things. Bill, we have to get you on again, because I want to talk Grateful Dead with you.

Call any time, Dan. I'm always ready. Let's go. And you tell LeBron to stand tall, because that guy is fantastic. Don't let the little people bring him down because of their jealousy, because they're their own problems out there.

LeBron, that guy's phenomenal. He's phenomenal. Phenomenal. You're phenomenal. Better than perfect. You're better than perfect. Incredible. You're better than perfect. Feed the children world hunger relief. Thanks guys. Bill Walton. I didn't even get to talk grateful death with him. We can't have him on enough. That man is a prophet, a giant freckled prophet. I will tell you Stugats that over the last couple of years it seems like this show has been bombarded by loss. People we care about, people that we have relationships with, and what I will say of Bill Walton that is different than I think about anybody in the history of our show,

and I can't think of a lot of people walking the globe that I could say the following about. I associated Bill Walton always from playing Days On with being in a great deal of pain, and his disposition never revealed it. I don't know how he did that because I think that we can get all caught up in our self-involvement and there probably isn't a lot beyond pain that anyone listening to this is going to notice if they're in pain. It's a very personal, intensely personal thing that is a

burden only you're carrying around and his body didn't work right almost the entire time that he was a famous person. Being a seven footer, I mean this is a pretty long lifespan for a seven footer because of the battering the body takes, but I really do associate this human being with always being in pain and always being somehow positive, someone who gave off a positive energy to anyone he came in contact with despite it. Always smiling, always in a good mood despite the pain you're talking about. He couldn't have actually always been in a good mood. Some of that had to be a mask for others.

In public, he was always in a good mood. He was always smiling. He always wanted to send a positive message I got to spend a little time with him like over the last couple of years I saw him in San Francisco less than a year ago I watched a few dead songs with him at one of the final dead in company shows and I went to shoreline with him and Luke Walton for a show like I've had some good times with Bill Walton Bill Walton you would never know Dan. I knew he was in pain, but you're right because I just know his history of injury and being in pain, but you would never know it spending any sort

of time with him. Like he was always gracious. It's hard to believe honestly because it's not just like I'm sure many people in our audience are in some sort of daily pain, but this is a person that I associate every walking step that he took because he had foot problems, because he had back problems. You could look up how many surgeries he had to have, but he had to have too many of them because I just simply associate his entire playing career with overcoming pain. And when it's every walking step,

Stugatz, I don't know how you keep a positive mood. When you're waking up career with overcoming pain and when it's every walking steps to God's I don't know how you keep a positive mood when you're waking up every morning and what greets you upon waking up is my body doesn't feel good I don't feel good in the the case that I have to carry around just a lens of what type of pain he was in I asked him once like hey Bill sit that because if you go to a dead show, you will see Bill Walton. He'll be, you know, by the soundstage, he'll be standing up the entire time. He doesn't want to block anyone. He doesn't want to get in anyone's way.

He's friends with the band. And I said to him once like, hey Bill, sit down. And he said sitting down, standing up, too much pain. Yeah, it hurts too much. Too painful. I'd just rather stand. 38 surgeries. Yeah. My wife asked me who Bill Walton was because she says I see a bunch of stuff on social media

I appreciated the opportunity to try to explain who Bill Walton was because I don't have any memories of him playing basketball I just remember him being around the game and being a wildly charismatic and popular Dude that was in this look people have a ton of strong opinions. Ask Reggie Miller. When it comes to basketball broadcasting, he was always atop everyone's list. They all loved him. He was just beloved by everyone around the sport.

And it didn't play well to our montage, because that's notoriously quick hits here and there. But there was one time he joined our show, you asked him one question, and that was like premeditated. There were two times. We went into this interview trying to ask no more than one question.

And at least once we got there. I just said hello to Bill on Stupotity once, and he went for 35 minutes. As great as his playing career was, I don't think it's what people will remember him for because of how long ago it was I believe it's sort of his spiritual aligned with the cosmos sort of crazy Broadcaster guy. I think he had a career that was more memorable as a personality than it and then as a player We should remember the broadcasting part of it because it was unique and it was different,

especially this show who strives to be a little bit different than the other shows, Bill Walton was different. Throw it down, big man, as a signature call. I still say that in my home, anytime a big guy doesn't wanna throw it down, I say it in a Bill Walton voice, throw it down, big man.

Do you know how hard it is for him to be loved when play-by-play people didn't actually love how difficult he could make it because he wasn't playing by the rules he's not stopping talking when he's supposed to or talking about any of the things he's supposed to talk about he was just always being Bill Walton and it was not confined to whatever it is your limits are the right play-by-play people did you know it seems that Dave Pash Jason Benetti Bill Walton and it was not confined to whatever it is your limits are. The right play-by-play people did. You know it seems that Dave Pash, Jason Benetti, just a

couple of different examples and that was a base of Boog where the right person who understood the light that Bill Walton could bring into someone's home through his broadcasting allowed him to function in that space in a way that that made that impact so special on all of us. It was funny to hear Dave Pash on SportsCenter yesterday talking about him and he was talking about when he first started working with him,

as much as you wanna let him go, you gotta rein him in. You have to. Like he said, Mike Dorico called him early in his career, was like, I know you wanna let him go, but you gotta rein him in a little bit because he'll just go everywhere. Well, I'll go a step further on this. And I know we get carried away with prisoner of the moment,

or whatever is the last thing is the best thing. But you do understand that no one's allowed to be that anymore, right? Like, you're not. You can be Charles Barkley on a studio show, but you're not allowed to be on the broadcast and not respect the, but you're not allowed to be on the broadcast and not respect the broadcast. You're not allowed to be on the broadcast

and not be partners with everyone around you in the sport and just do your own thing. There's not someone who's allowed to exist that way. I don't even know who you'd go with on second place. Someone who sits next to the play-by-play guy and is allowed to just be themselves, and it doesn't matter whether they're talking about the game or not They're just being ambassador for entertaining and loves basketball But doesn't necessarily need to be talking about basketball and I don't know how much of it was his own personal life and and

Desire to keep a lighter schedule But even he in the later part of his career, was only allowed to be that on like, Pac-12 Networks, Syco Delight type games. Which was always an appeal, like, oh this is a game that the most appealing thing about it is Bill Walton's on the call, and Patch is gonna kinda let him go.

Didn't he die the day after the conference did? The last, the day after the conference. Roxy Bern day after the kind of the Roxy Bernstein signed off on Pac-12 Network and no one was really sad about it I was very sad about it I don't know what you're talking about he actually thanked Bill Walton in his sign-off so it was like a sweet like moment but I was very sad for me at least like there was never really the appeal of watching Pac-12 basketball, except if I knew Bill Walton was on the call and I would stay up every single time.

Is the Dick Vitale, Bill Walton stuff, is that something that ends with them? Is there going to be some young broadcaster who's allowed to do it that way? In terms of color commentary, I don't really see it. In terms of play-by-play, Harlan's got an aspect to that to him. Oh no, but no, but play-by-play has too many confinements. You can have personality, but there's only there's a top end to it

I'm talking about the dick vital because Gus Johnson does that too has personality But dick vital Bill Walton who else is somebody that you would associate with putting the color in? colorful putting the color in colorful. Putting the Clyde. Clyde. Clyde's a good one. Yeah, that's the only one. And he's from like a bygone era. Like now you don't really see those characters. He's a holdover from this Walton there.

Maybe they'll let Jason Kelsey do it in the NFL because he seems to be the personality everybody loves right now. Maybe, but Jason Kelsey is going to have to push the envelope and be a little more extreme than he is right now in order to reach those heights. With only a few weeks left in the NBA playoffs, no matter which team you're rooting for, there's nothing like witnessing history in person. Use the Game Time app today and lock in your tickets to check out one of the teams that will lift the trophy at the end of the NBA Finals this season.

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Oh! Wow! Liz D! Stugats! I hope he has the day he deserves. That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go F yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve.

It's a great kind, it's a great kind insult. Yes. It's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out. That's a less Southern bless your heart. is the done libertar show with the Stu gods We will onboard Ron McGill here in just a few minutes. I am still watching in just a few minutes, I am still watching First Take

on the televisions in Herester-Gottes, and I should clarify, I didn't mean to suggest surprise that Eudonnis Haslem is good at being on First Take. I'm surprised he wants to do it. I'm surprised that he wants anything to do with arguing in public or giving fiery sports opinions. To me, it's like relevancy, right? arguing in public or giving fiery sports opinions. To me, it's like relevancy, right? It's just kind of like keeping your name. Like you just retired.

You're probably feeling like, what am I gonna do now? Maybe just dip into toeing it out. It's a business move for his podcast. And you're exactly right. It's the way and it's smart of every athlete who's using it this way. It's how JJ Redick and Kendrick Perkins and the rest are using ESPN to their advantage as all

of ESPN changes. Kendrick Perkins has just said on first take that he has the biggest regret of his media career has happened recently. Do you guys want to take a guess on what Kendrick Perkins is saying is the biggest regret of his entire media career? He revealed he was on Ozempic? Huh. He revealed that he voted for Rudy Gobert for Defensive Player of the Year. Oh no. Oh no. What are we doing there, Rudy?

He is saying that Rudy has tarnished the Defensive Player of the year. Oh no. Oh no. What are we doing there Rudy? He is saying that Rudy has tarnished the defensive player of the year award. He voted! And he is saying that he regrets voting for Gobert because Gobert, and this one is an interesting phrasing on this sentence and it's accurate, is not respected by his peers. No one likes that guy. It's weird huh? Well no it's not really I get it. It's weird. No I don't like him either. He's the four time defensive player of the year Ben Wallace is not seen as someone who is to be laughed at as the four time defensive player of the year but people are laughing at Rudy Gobert. It's weird.

What's weird to see is, I know this person is excellent at defense, but the game has changed so much as to render him somebody that we're now laughing at. Yeah, but do you like him? Because I don't like him. I like his excellence. Do you like him, though?

Ruining the world? No, I mean- Sounds like you don't like him. No, what are you talking about? What kind of answer is that? He's excellent. You're talking about? He has your direct questions. Do you like Rudy Gobert? Is there a smell? I don't know him. I'm not even like him. I know him plenty. I spend next to no time on this. I mean that's working

again some big time. So Dono tried to tell us. I spend next to no time at these microphones telling you I like or dislike people. Me and Realli have been making fun of 20 years of broadcast television, Tony Realli, of is he a bad guy or a good guy? Like that guy's a bad guy. Like I hate those character defining things. Me too.

I genuinely don't like to do that. Someone comes and go bare, I don't like them. Do you? I'm not gonna do that to people. I like other people. Give me all the people that you think I have said over at this microphone, I like or I dislike that person. It's not many, but he certainly, like,

he finds a way in that conversation. Here is somebody- We don't understand is what we're trying to say. Yeah, come on. I don't wanna give you permission to do that, to dislike someone you don't actually know. I don't wanna give you permission to do that, to dislike someone you don't actually know. I don't want to give you permission to do that.

I mean, it's irresponsible way to use the microphone. Dan, being a hater is so fun. It is the reason I wake up in the morning. You got to try it out. It's okay to hate. He makes a crap ton of money. It's okay. Yeah.

And this is a rare time where you don't feel like you're on an island if you speak in a microphone and say, you don't like Rudy Gobert. It's such a welcoming party. That's how I feel about Jennifer Lopez. Yeah. Say it, Dan. Here is someone that everyone likes, Ron McGill.

I remind you again that his substantive endowment has no bureaucracy in it. So if you just want to help the animals, Ron McGill, go to the internet, find substantive endowment has no bureaucracy in it so if you just want to help the animals Ron McGill go to the internet find his endowment I bet you Ron doesn't like Rudy Gobert Ron do you like or dislike Rudy Gobert don't know him so I can't say that's a good attitude but not anyone here is endorsing that attitude yeah it sense, but everyone here feels licensed to hate even if they don't know somebody. Yes, we can hear you. We heard you, yes.

Not happy with what I heard. Are you guys hanging me out the door again? Are you playing like you don't hear me? He can't hear us. Turn him down because he can't hear us, but we can indeed hear him, and his confusion in not being able to hear us is not helpful. We have an assortment of video to play for Ron McGill.

He heard the question though about Go Bear. I mean, I don't- That part is weird. I don't understand what happened there. He said no. Ron, can you know? I said no, his eyes said no. You cannot hear us now.

You heard the question. I heard you now. Now I hear you. Okay. See, I don't know if you guys are playing games with me or not, because you like to jerk me around a lot. So I don't know if you're playing games.

He said, okay, guys, everybody be quiet now. Like we don't know if you guys are playing games with me or not, because you like to jerk me around a lot. So I don't know if you're playing games. He said, okay, okay guys, everybody be quiet now. Like we don't hear him. And then talk, but don't make any sounds. So it looks like he doesn't hear us. What if today he's playing a joke on us? I understand why our general incompetence would be something that surprises you and that you distrust, but I am promising you,

this is not a sinister strategic orchestration to bother you. It's's just we're not very good at a lot of things around here. And so the professional broadcast is sometimes not what it should be. Let's play for Ron a couple of whale watching videos. Cut out again, cut out again. I just see Dan moving his lips.

Okay. There you go, you're back again. There are two drones here and it's a blue whale feeding at the surface Give us some play-by-play here if the video does execute correctly 20 miles off the coast of San Diego Yeah, look at that massive. This is the largest animal that has ever been on the face of the planet Dan larger than any dinosaur Or anything what it's doing is it's feeding It's a baleen whale so So it opens its mouth and it grabs all these small organisms in the ocean.

And it's got like a bunch of filters in its mouth. And as the water goes through the mouth, it filters out all the food. And that's how it eats. The largest animal on the earth eats some of the smallest things on the earth. That's incredible when you think about it. Is it?

Oh, that's fantastic footage. Is it hard for that whale to find enough small things to eat daily? I would think that that would be difficult to sustain the nutrients that animal needs. Well, as long as the ocean's worth that remains healthy, no, because the ocean is full of these nutritious things, you know, whether it be shrimp, plankton, different types of krill, all kinds of things that they're feeding on, and they get massive amounts. Imagine that mouth opens up, it's getting massive amounts that is filtering in there. So out of the open ocean, hopefully those portions of the ocean stay healthy and that animal can continue to thrive.

But in order for that animal to reach the size it reaches, it's got to be getting plenty of food. Ron, there was a 23-person study in which 100% of the tested subjects had microplastics inside their testicles. Microplastics have been found in freshly fallen snow in the Antarctic. So when I see a whale scoop up its mouth and get a bunch of tiny good things in its system, I have to assume that it's getting a bunch of tiny bad things for its system too. Have we seen any repercussions in the animal kingdom like that? You're absolutely right. The biggest repercussions we've seen so far, of course are birds

There are endless videos and images on the internet that will show you birds that have died from ingesting all these plastics All kinds of microplastics found everything we're finding it in sea turtles. We're finding it in so much so many different animals There's no question that obviously these whales are doing the same thing It just if the question is when does it get to a point when it really becomes something that affects them, you know, their health, that can kill them? I don't know. I don't know the answer, but do we need to wait till we get there? We're looking at all the microplastics. You know, I don't want this to be a show that's just on this gloom and doom, but it certainly is an issue, and you can see it, like I said, especially in bird life now. Birds that are dying,

just their internal organs just filled with microplastics. Speaking of gloom and doom, about 160 howler monkeys in Mexico have fallen dead because of a heat wave that's going on. What's going on with the recovery efforts right now? I'm not sure, Roy. Heat is affecting a lot of animals. There are a lot of animals that are suffering from heat stroke, and these are tropical animals. Howler monkeys are tropical animals. I don't

know what conditions they were subject to but you know listen look what's happening to people if we didn't have the indoors if we didn't have air conditioning you'd have so much heat stroke going on out there not that we don't have it already but it would be exponentially greater. These animals don't have those luxuries they have to be able to adapt to these extreme heat waves that we're having and this is just May we don't even have the first day of summer yet. And we're having temperatures that we don't normally find until well into the summer. So it's a huge red flag for me. And I hope all these people that for years have denounced saying anything, no climate

change, no warming, that is not happening. It's all a figment of your imagination. Okay. Open your flipping eyes. Put it on the poll please at Lebatard. Sure, that's an enraged Ron McGill, open your flipping eyes. Put it on the poll. Have you ever said open your flipping eyes to someone? And also, did you know that the average human consumes a credit card's worth of microplastics a week? Jeremy, what do you have for Ron McGill? Ron, in my backyard there's a pond,

and so we have ducklings and ducks, and now also massive iguanas. And with the new baby ducklings that are there, it seems as though the iguanas don't know what ducklings are, and the ducklings don't know what iguanas are. And I'm wondering, is there any world where an invasive species, one that is not supposed to be known by the other or interact with the other,

could just sort of miss the periphery of their vision and they don't understand what they're looking at? Oh, absolutely. Understand that animals, when these ducklings hatch out, they learn every day. They're looking at something that becomes part of their norm. Now, those iguanas may, they know, they're generally speaking they're vegetarians, but they may get a love

for eggs. They may go after duck eggs. I wouldn't be surprised to see an iguana maybe even eat a duckling, a newly hatched duckling. But what's going to happen is they'll adapt. These ducklings will start to realize, hey, those are the enemy. We got to keep away from them. And vice versa, you know, whether the iguanas see something of a problem with the ducks coming after them because the female ducks will protect the ducklings they'll they'll charge you they'll peck at you they'll try to do some whatever damage they can but absolutely these animals learn as they hatch out you know it's something called imprinting for instance like if you take a duck any bird egg for that matter and hatch it

out as soon as it hatches out if it sees your face that's what it thinks it is it thinks it's a human being it will follow you around like you're its mother, even if it sees another duck. The other duck is gonna be foreign to it because the first thing it sees when it hatches out of the egg, it imprints on it. It becomes, that's what I'm supposed to be. And that's why you see these films of, you know,

people walking around all the ducklings following them, or the guys who fly in the gliders. And you see the geese flying right next to them because they were raised on an imprinted basis by that person. So they're following, that's how that person teaches them how to fly and migrate. Look at the film Migration, it's a fantastic film. I love that movie, my daughter loves it too. Your world renowned photographer, I just recently saw footage of a first time ever, there's

been footage that has been late to arrive to the scene, but a drone captured a killer whale attacking and killing a great white shark in the moment, but a drone captured a killer whale attacking and killing a great white shark in the moment, all used by drone footage. And I'm wondering, this is footage that really hasn't been made available to us prior to drones. You being a world renowned photographer, how often do you find yourself using drones and does it open up a whole new world of possibilities for you? Absolutely. Drones are absolutely a different level of capturing moments because first of all most of the time those drones are not seen by the animals

you're photographing. These drones are so small to be so quiet you can fly over areas without disturbing the animal. So you're getting a whole different perspective but more importantly you're able to document a behavior that's not being affected by the presence of the camera. And again you know you can stay in a vehicle and you can have that drone go, you know, thousands of yards away. The range of these drones is fantastic. So you can scope entire areas where it would take you hours to go over those areas. You can do it in minutes with a drone. You can see things happening. You can document them. I think drones are an absolutely wonderful thing as long as they're

used responsibly. Speaking- Not going up buildings to look into people's rooms and stuff. Okay, you're anti-voyeurism, anti-crime, but you're saying vehicles and vehicles on safari. Let's check out this video of an elephant attacking what appears to be a group of tourists on safari. Tell me what you're seeing here, Ron. Okay. Oh yeah, this is that famous shot that

I think it was in Zambia. This is a bull elephant that is challenging. He's in must there. You can see on the right between his ear and his eye. You see that little line of fluid coming down. His his glands are draining there. I do not see that. Well, if you look closely, you see a little dark line there. Anyway, the bottom line is that male is challenging the vehicle because he thinks the vehicle is challenging it. It's not in a rage, Dan, because if it was in a rage he would have turned a vehicle over and he would have

crushed it like a loaf of bread. Basically, the guy backed off and the elephant eventually backed off, but this male elephant is in a state of physicality called must, M-U-S-T-H, and it's kind of like, I don't know how to say it, it's like when a woman is having a hormone rage and she's going crazy Well, that's what happens to these males during must and they there's they want to fight everything because they're trying to battle for the private You know for the privilege of being with the females so they get very ornery very unpredictable and very dangerous Why did it take why did it take that guy so long to back off? I would have been in there like go backwards in reverse. He was like holding again

He was like holding his own like what are you doing there van good not armchair quarterbacking this one? I think I think also, you know, no real life in real life Chris what happens is you're supposed to with elephants stay in your ground. You're supposed to stay in your ground Okay, a lot of it is bluff This guy obviously was part bluff part not bluff and the guy realized this and he's coming at me He's picked me up twice. I'm gonna back out of here now This guy obviously was part bluff, part not bluff. And the guy realizes, and he's coming at me, he's picked me up twice, I'm gonna back out of here now. But I think he went through the right process.

You wouldn't wanna back off right away because then the elephant says, oh, he's afraid of me and I'm really gonna kill him now. But if you don't back off right away, like you see that elephant, he took, and then he backed up. The elephant said, why isn't this guy running away? He backed up. Well, let me try it again. And now basically it was a game of chicken

where the guy driving the truck said, you know what? I'm not trying this again, I'm out of here. Is it true that when elephants are in must, that they have a raging headache, almost like migraine level? I don't know because I can't talk to an elephant. We don't, I don't think we've ever done a study to put kind of sensors in their brain

to find out if they're having a headache. I do know that they're incredibly ornery. They're incredibly almost angry. They're urinating all over themselves, they're draining from their gland on the side of their head. They're just not in a good mood at all. Whether the headache is causing that or whether it's just hormones, you know,

it's like hormones can make any living thing stupid. Ron, good seeing you. Thank you as always for all of your contributions to the show, sir. And I will remind people, zoomiami.org slash Ron McGill Conservation Endowment. It's substantive. You should donate. Thank you, sir.

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