The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: College Football Playoff Closing Arguments

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

Mike and Lucy are still yelling at each other about the University of Miami's merits for the College Football Playoff, and it's time for their closing arguments. How much does recency bias factor in? Is Miami's best win over a 7-5 team? Should Alabama AND South Carolina be out? Do you know ball? Is Syracuse better than 'Bama? DO YOU KNOW BALL? Did you know Syracuse lost to 3-9 Stanford? DO YOU KNOW BALL?!?!?!?!?! Then, it's time for Stugotz's Weekend Observations tackling Andy Reid, the Bears good loss and Lions bad win, LeBron James, Wink Martindale, the grocery store bar, Mike McDaniel, and the Top 5 Athlete Names If They Were Authors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don LeVittor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Greg Cody, that microphone needs to be in front of your face when you're doing the show. That's the way that one works. I was told that you're going to be on with us tomorrow as well. Really? You didn't know that either? Are you on with us or are you not on with us?

Has that been confirmed? Are you serious? No, I'm kidding. Yes, I'll be on tomorrow. Okay, excellent. God willing. Greg, you've noticed that Lucy and Mike are still arguing, right? That they've been arguing since the first

hour of the show on air and off air about whether Miami should be in the playoffs. I discuss. I do not argue. I am a lady. He argues though. And when I'm out-dueled, I just get louder because I am a man. So emotional. Really regret that clip being isolated. Well, it's just, it's a crazy argument to me. Like, okay, they lost two of their last three. Okay, we're just gonna ignore what Alabama did

at the end of the season. I'm being called crazy for saying Syracuse is just as good as Alabama. You know what's crazy to me? Yeah, laugh it up, asshole. Here, here. I mean, it's ridiculous. Wow.

Here's what's crazy to me. Every single one of you forgetting that Alabama lost 24 to three two weeks ago to an abysmal Oklahoma Sooner team. Get out of this playoff discussion and take that other three loss SEC team that you beat with you who is talking about Alabama but you I have heard anyone else bring up Alabama but you are presently the betting favorite

to make the college football playoff who here has said that well when you invoke what they've done recently like an answer Lucy you invoked what Miami has done recently I'm not voting for Alabama, but your argument that Syracuse is better than South Carolina is bad shit crazy. And we're back. Why is it bad shit crazy? Syracuse got blown out by Ole Miss. Can you guys call each other?

I mean, like South Carolina got blown out by Ole Miss. South Carolina has three losses. Syracuse, South Carolina lost to Alabama, who two weeks ago lost 24-3 to the worst Oklahoma team many of you have seen in your lifetimes. So that's not a good football team. You keep talking about losses and something that you have emphasized so much is Miami has 10 wins.

What is the best win for Miami? They have one more than the other teams. No, you need to answer the question that I'm asking. Louisville or the Gators. Which counts. It counts. You need to answer the question that I'm asking. Louisville or the Gators. Louisville or the Gators. Louisville or the Gators. Louisville or the Gators. You seem to be really big on what's happened recently.

So you just want to forget that Miami destroyed Florida by 40 points and you said DJ Lagway as if he didn't play half the game. Let me tell you something. It's a very different thing. The golf between those two teams, I'm gonna get louder. The golf between those two teams was not the quarterback.

You go, man. That was a blowout. That was not something that was one within the margins for Miami. Miami was a great deal better than Florida, who has beaten Ole Miss, who went to overtime and probably wins that game against Tennessee, who don't even get me started on them, if Lagway doesn't get probably wins that game against Tennessee, who don't even get me started

on them if Lagway doesn't get hurt in that game. Florida would probably win if they played next week. So your best win is over a seven and five football team. My best win is probably over... Your best win is a seven and five football team. Look, we want to talk about ranked wins all the time. I think the talent has been spread out. It's arbitrary.

Miami has three wins inside the top 30, alright, and that puts them among the best. So if you just extrapolate it out, or if we wait a couple hours for the CFP, we might see a scenario in which Duke, Louisville, and possibly Florida are all ranked. So miss me with that one. So your best wins are a seven and five Georgia Tech team and a seven and five Florida team. I just want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly. Your argument for South Carolina is that they're good right now. So you're going to put South Carolina in over Alabama.

Alabama beat them straight up and they have the same record. You can't put them in. Mike, you are answering the questions I'm asking. You can't put them in. Who are you putting in? Who are you putting in? Because it sounds like you're riding off of recent vibes, which is South Carolina. Which is important when we're discussing the college.

They lost Alabama. Head to head is important. I don't choose who's in the playoff and I wish I did. Well it doesn't seem like you're picking anybody for the playoff except for. It would be incredibly cool. However if we're looking at what the College of Ball Playoff Committee does, they go off recency bias. Am I incorrect in saying that? No. You're correct. Thank you Greg. The recency bias, okay well then if let's go off of recency bias. Miami then has two losses to Syracuse and Georgia Tech I am so muddy. Excuse me. Excuse me. They have two losses in the recency bias Georgia Tech and Syracuse you want to look at what they've done recently

Be Miami you want? Yeah, they beat Miami who's a good team you want hung, Georgia should have beat them, was up 14 at Georgia. You wanna look at what those teams have done? I know what we need. Yeah. Game time. And I plan on using this game time app. Hold on.

We've been trying, I've been trying. Lucy, you're the worst kind of hater, because all you've got right now is Miami shouldn't be in, you're punting on putting a team in, you're hinting that it should be South Carolina, you're saying that what happens recently matters, but you're forgetting the fact that South Carolina lost straight up to Alabama, and that matters more than what's happened in the last three weeks. That's not true.

Yes it does. You can't put South Carolina in over Alabama because Alabama beat them and they have the same record. You keep them both out because they're both overrated. I miss Jessica so much. When do I lose these only here once every two weeks? This, go ahead and are you done with everything? I'm going to use a game time app to go to South Bend, Indiana where the Miami Hurricanes are going to be opening up the college football playoff. We're going to see one of the best offenses in the nation

against one of the best defenses in the nation. one of the best defenses in the nation we're gonna set all sorts of rating records and it's gonna be much more watched than South Carolina and Notre Dame game time app and guess what new customers you use promo code and you get $20 off to see this wonderful game in South Bend Indiana which is definitely happening and not rendering all this posturing by me totally moot after Clemson beats SMU and keeps all these teams out. You get panoramic seat views which I'm gonna need because I've never been there. Game times all in ticket coverage. You're yelling at me. Which I'm certainly gonna need because I'm buying these tickets. Sight unseen.

You could also use it to go to the ACC Championship game if you're an SMU or Clemson fan this weekend. I know what we need. Stugat, what is it called? You got your ass. Term supply. What's it called? Chris Cody, Lucy Rodin. What time is it? Game time.

A make good, is that what it's called when we've done an ad in a way the sponsor might not like? They'll love that. I think they're really gonna like it. We owe them one, yeah. I kicked the table. Syracuse isn't better than Alabama. You're crazy. They lost 24 to three to a horrible

Oklahoma team. I feel like I'm going crazy. Well they are better than Alabama because Oklahoma was better than Alabama and Oklahoma sucks ass. All right. Syracuse lost to Stanford. They didn't score a goddamn touchdown! What are we talking about? This is what I wanted.

It is what you wanted. Greg, you owe $5 added to last week's $6. I sure will. Your phone, do you have the money? No, I don't. All right, you got, you owe $12 now for your dinging phone. I sure will. That's 11, right?

It's now $12 for the dinging. Who carries cash? It's 2024. Okay, I'm eliminating the fine bucket. phone sure what's a lot of it uh... that's it's not twelve dollars for the tears cash is in two thousand twenty five i okay uh... i'm eliminating the fine bucket it's gone so you guys all lose the money because it's all my money so i'm done five buckets done because if no one's gonna pay the fine bucket it's over uh... we are killing it right now on the show i'm not going to be the only one paying the fines around here so uh... it's over forever nobody's gonna get

any more of my money in the fine bucket and uh... greg cody can be the only one paying the fines around here so uh... it's over forever nobody's going to get any more of my money in the fine bucket and uh... greg cody can be the one blamed for that because you're welcome most of the money was mine you guys were actually cost very much people made money on this is a transaction i'm done with it i'm not doing the fine anymore if no one's ever going to pay their fines like i'm not going to have a bucket of death i mean now we still got to do that we do uh... yes uh... the thing that is happening there with uh... with and we gotta get to these weekend observations is that might get this point because you requested it you said you weren't

unsatisfied that mike was an emotional enough yesterday what is now happened today is him and lucy are having some of the biggest fights in the history of the company and on top of that, we've got a situation where all of us have been trying to get Mike off of this subject. We've thrown honking birds at him. Billy just threw off a stray. They're eating the dogs that Mike didn't even hear. Mike didn't even hear it because he threw in a straight, they're eating the dogs.

I heard it. I was kicking the table at the time and Mike is also not wrong I know that everyone listening to this is saying get out of here Syracuse is better you don't know ball hey listener you don't know ball can I finish the point please I know everyone is saying to that listening I know what Alabama has been I know what Syracuse has been I'm not going to accept the argument that syracuse would be as good as alabama i just won't do it but if i gave alabama what syracuse offense does you guys would think alabama's a lot better than alabama is because what

syracuse offense does is throw the ball more than anybody in the sport and it keeps their coach from being coach stinky more often because he lost three games this year and refused to shower. We didn't even talk about that. Miami denied us that at the end of the season. Fran Brown not showering because after he loses a game he does not shower. Yeah, we'll talk to him about that on God Bless Football this week.

You can ask him if he would lose 24 to 3 to Oklahoma Syracuse has a great passing offense a fun passing offense buzz But Lucy does get your ass when she says they lost to Stanford like Stanford Stanford stinks there's bad losses everywhere You guys seem to forget the bad losses for the SEC teams or the fact that some SEC teams have more losses it matters in a year like this stop applying your SEC logic from ten years ago you are parts of the problem Mike when Miami in the rankings tonight is rank number 11 in the CFP that's gonna suck does that mute all of your outrage? It shows me that the committee has been rational

about what we've seen out of the SEC this year. Now they've shown us time and time again that they're always gonna rank the ACC higher than the AP and the coaches poll. Disregard those polls. They all exist for confirmation bias for preseason rankings, which are asinine. It's an asinine thing. So I would be hopeful. And all of this is going to feel really ridiculous if Clemson ends up winning a home game

and keeps all three of those teams out. Why are the final rankings on Sunday going to take four hours? I don't know. You have to milk it. It's way too much. Four hours in the middle of an NFL Sunday? I mean, tough and stress are going on.

I would just say my kind of closing moment on this, which I'd like to, I'd like to. Wow, men on closing arguments. You're gonna rest your case, huh? If Clemson wins, none of this means shit, right? Miami has put themselves in a position where Dabo Sweeney decides their fate. That's fucking crazy.

It is, but it's also crazy. When they were in the ACC, they avoided the two toughest teams in the conference. Miami should be in Charlotte this weekend, and they are not, and now it is all writing on Dabo Sweeney. That is the situation that they are in, that they put themselves in. Don't lose to Georgia Tech, don't lose to Syracuse

when you're a top five team in the country. There's plenty of bad losses. There's only one team that essentially doesn't have a bad loss. I hear you. But that's a byproduct, as we covered and agreed on, the fact that these conferences, none of these teams played one another.

I thought I said closing. I thought I said we were done. That was kind of controlled Miami's fate for the past like 15 years though, right? Yeah. Nice hat, Lucy, nice hat. Hey DraftKings fans, are you ready to elevate your game day snacking experience?

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the one or two notes of that kind of thing and you know it and then just giving us finger guns and leaving. Baby! You should listen to the great Cody show podcast because that's all we do for 55 minutes a week is just say catchphrases we even make songs about them the and you know it is a song for crying out loud that's great hopefully that's a suey nominee for best song and you know it baby and you know it stugats and you know it baby and you know it baby and you know it baby and you know it this is the Don LeVatar show with the stugats Let's do weekend observations please. It is time for Stu Gatz to share his game notes.

No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boys, Stu. Weekend observations brought to you by Miller Lite. Great taste, just 96 calories available for delivery. Din! This university has a proud football history and tradition. Legendary names such as Jim Brown, Ernie Davis, Larry Zonka, Floyd Little, and of course David Tyree. Later on, Dwight Freeney, Donovan McNabb, Daryl Johnston, and Harvin Marison.

But Dan, that was a long time ago. They haven't been relevant in over two decades, until Saturday, because on Saturday, Dan, they sprung the 42 to 38 upset over Miami and kept the Hurricanes out of the playoffs and Dan, just like that, make no mistake about it. Syracuse football is back. Damn good team. College football, Chippy. Dan. You know what the C in college football stands for? Chippy. Good guess but no. It stands for chaos. That part's fun. Yeah it is. I would take a play-in game. Alabama Miami. Would you? I mean that would be great.

Do away with the conference championship games and just have a weekend of playing games. This is the great thing happening around everything here, because I think somebody's going to have to play four more games than they used to. Yes, give us more games, give us more play-ins, more games. Make it 40, make it March Madness in football. Make the games happening every minute, yes.

It turns out Syracuse and Mario Crystal Ball was just too much for Cam Ward to overcome. The Philadelphia Eagles and Vic Fangio. It just feels right. It does. Fangs. Yeah. He should coach with a cheesesteak in the press box.

It does feel right. Thank you. Wink Martindale was born to coach defense. Top five guys who were born to coach defense. Number five, Wade Phillips. Do you think many people in our audience know that Wink Martindale, that that name is famous as a game show host a long time ago? Just the three of us. you and Greg it's it's such a ridiculous name and it's not the first

time we've heard it crazy Chuck Woolery died a couple weeks ago yeah Dan Chuck Woolery died oh wow the wool yeah the wool number four Buddy Ryan. Number three, Wink Martindale. Number two, Monte Kiffin. Billy, can you find for me Wink Martindale's game show hosting history, please? He's still with us, by the way, Wink is. Yes, did Dan kill him? No, no, I'm just saying.

The fine buckets, we've done away with it. So he can kill anyone now? Yeah, he can kill anyone. Yeah, welcome. Yes Hmm tick-tack-toe, right? Wake Martindale, I don't know. I don't your percent. I know the great game shows. I don't remember. I don't associate him Tack dough. I heard you and I'm and Billy will look it up. He'll find out what's Wink Martindale is one of the most famous Game show host names of all time yet number one spags the chiefs didn't win that game

the raiders lost it joe burrow said he needs to do more i have to be honest with you i don't think you can he's done enough he's fantastic. The Chiefs to Dance Point are the worst 11-1 team in NFL history.

Don't you dare hit that button. I'm supporting you. This is a sacred space here. We can't kick you out during the weekend observation. Good. If I didn't know better, I would have thought Andy Reid was purposely trying to lose that game. Chicago Bears, great loss. Lions, bad win.

What? The Lions need a loss, I'm telling you. They're peaking at the wrong time. They are. You need a loss. You need, Dan, you need to reset. How is it that Chris Cody and Mike Ryan are vigorously nodding that yes, the Lions, the lions, the lions who have done nothing

but lose for a hundred years. They need one now. They need a loss. He's right, it happened to the cyclones this year actually. They need a wake up call. Right. They need a wake up call. Even though they look wide awake right now,

they need a wake up call. You need to be humbled. Yeah, and the bears botched it for them. That bear game doesn't count as a loss that they needed because the bears blew it. So they learned nothing from that game. It's a situation where you lose, you learn something. They won that game, they should have lost it.

They learned nothing because of how idiotic the bears were. So now they need another loss. Like the Ravens, Dan, they're losing at the right time. This is the time to lose. Good point is what you said. Billy made a very good point. Thank you, Greg. Oh, it was mine, but I mean, yeah.

It's not a good point. None of you are making a good point. Thank you, Greg. Oh, it was mine, but I'm, yeah. It's not a good point. None of you are making a good point. You don't get it. You don't get it. You sound like a fool. You're saying they're better off at 14 and two than they're gonna be at 15 and one, or sorry, 15 and two instead of 16 and one.

100%. That's a lot of games that went in a row. You think they can do that? I don't think they can. They need a loss. Same guy who supports flag planting. 1964 to 1965, you could find a wink on what's this song? 91 episodes. What else? There's a lot. How's your mother-in-law? Why'd you give us the crap? 17 episodes of a show called How's Your Mother-in-law? That Yes? I am he had a run. Yeah, I Want I want to examine what all of these shows were we'll get to that in a second. That's a fear factor right there

That's my nightmare Checking on your dad the Patriots Sorry The Patriots lead the NFL a great losses But I'm not certain any team in NFL history has had two better back-to-back losses than the Carolina Panthers. So good. They found out that they have a quarterback Dan and they lost games they needed to lose.

Needed to lose. Wow. That is a good job by them. Drew Locke can scoot. 27 points, 14 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks, and grinding at a win in Utah on a Sunday night at the age of 39. Tip of the cat to LeBron James. One of the things, Dugats, that's super interesting on what you just said about Bryce Young because I thought you meant Drew lock but anyway, you know

But the Bryce Young thing is super interesting because I think all of us we know how tenuous these things are it happened to Baker Mayfield in Cleveland If Andy Dalton doesn't get into a car accident Bryce Young is headed to career backup. Yes, like he's he So what it's just because and Andy Dalton helped that and franchising Kidd more by getting into a car accident than by mentoring him. That's what he does, the red rifle. Whatever he has to do to help the team out. But also the benching.

The benching is a wake up call. But I'm saying it looked like he was gonna get waved though. It looked like they were gonna trade him. It looked like it was over in Carolina. It did, and now it looks like the rare occasion in which they actually managed a situation the right way which is not something that they've done with that position since Tepper got there by getting into a car accident Bryce Young should pay for all the things that happened to Dalton during that accident right if there were tickets hospital

bills whatever you need yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Bryce Young should absolutely pay for all his meals, everything for saving his career during this time after the car accident. Mysteriously, Bryce Young happens to know the guy in the other car that hit Eddie Dalton. Is that so? He created the accident.

No it is. This was all planned. Yeah. I have inside info. Inside dope. Speaking of a tip of the cap. Dan, we lost one. Let's tip a cap for Lou Cardaseca. I mean, Lou Cardaseca passed away. One of the great coaches in college basketball history. Chris Cody was just looking at us, who is that? It's a former St. John's coach who was famous for wearing sweaters.

Back then college basketball mattered because the players played there for four years. I still can't believe that losing to a bad Michigan team at home was the second most embarrassing thing to happen to the Ohio State football team on Saturday. Ohio State, next time you lose at home to a 6-5 Michigan team do me a favor take your medicine and walk off the fucking field. Thanks. Sorry too aggressive? Enough of them. Seriously. Here's a rule If you don't want a flag planted on your field, install turf. Rivalry week. What?

You're scared of that word. I hate that word. Rivalry week. Delivered. Nothing says rivalry week. Quite like Miami and Syracuse. Ha ha ha ha ha. When we were at the hotel after Rose got pepper sprayed, she looked at me and goes, week. Quite like Miami and Syracuse. When we were at the

hotel after Rose got pepper sprayed, she looked at me and goes, I didn't know Miami and Syracuse were rivals. If we gave out MVP awards just based on cool plays, it would be Josh Allen's award to lose death, taxes, and our nation's annual reminder of the greatness that is, Gus Johnson.

Put it on the poll please, Juju. If we gave out what were you giving out for Cool Plays? If we gave out the MVP just based on Cool Plays, Josh Allen would win it in a landslide. Alright, put it on the poll at LeBotardShow. If we're giving out the MVP based only on cool plays, who gets the MVP? Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson? Hmm, only Gus Johnson can make a 13-10 game seem like a shootout. He is so good. So good, man. Gus Johnson has the rare ability to make me believe that any game he's calling is the greatest game I've ever seen. I Love him Harvard and Yale Hope you did what you do best take notes

Because that was the game Harvard and Yale is what I tried to say Dan. I was doing the audiobook yesterday I'm a little bit tired. You're back to doing the audiobook.? Yeah. Is that them enforcing a contract? How dare they? What are we doing on Thursday? Do we have the information on the church? Do you want to start giving people where they can buy tickets? We want to fill that church with people for the Back in My Day book signing

and the Stugats book signing. I can't believe you're still at the audiobook. I thought you weren't doing that anymore. Well, I finished it up yesterday, so. Okay. Good for you. Somehow Ryan Day looks like an avatar of Ryan Day. Please let Ryan win the national championship and get fired the next day. I need that to happen. We all need that to happen. It could happen. It might happen. I mean he really lost his national championship.

Winning one would not replace that. The number of people yesterday that I heard saying that if he doesn't win the national championship, he's fired. I mean it's just an insane place you people have put the standard. Like you've just gotten to a place. No one's going to be reasonable about where the standard is anymore. When have Ohio State fans ever been reasonable though? I know, but this is lunacy. What is his winning percentage? Like the, like what are we doing?

I understand that the man lost at home in a season where like is he the winningest coach in the sport right now? Through the time that he's been coaching, does he have a better winning percentage than anyone in the entire sport? Dan Lanning might be a little higher. He's only been a organ for like two years but it's it's it ohio state is a different job than everywhere else in the country it's different standards at ohio state but it's different standards set by

somebody who's a mercenary who's recreated his entire career even though he was a fool urban meyer turned something in by doing what he did in florida and there turn that mutation into what it is and it's gonna swallow Ryan Digg just because Urban Meyer was able to cheat better than everybody else and be a moral better than everyone else. And now he's sitting at the airport next to me, how the mighty have fallen. Sad, right? A little bit. Someone posted a picture of, it felt like an invasion of privacy, of Urban Meyer sitting by himself at a

supermarket bar. Oh, so funny. What? Um, let me tell you something. That seems like one of the best types of beer you can have. Sit like while I leisurely stroll through the supermarket. I have a bar here. I can check out some of the new beers. Oh, they have Miller Lite there and it's on tap. Let me get some of that. Ah, take a load off. That seems incredible. Can we get that picture, please? I don't know what you're talking about. And I kind of feels dirty. I did not know.

Someone took a photo with him. So he clearly like consented to taking a photo sitting at the supermarket bar. I did not know there was such a thing as a supermarket bar. Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Levitard show. Did you know there was such a thing as a supermarket bar? Ryan Day is the Michael Jordan of James Franklin's. That's good. Stash this away in the something the Ponder file. Did the Canes pluck the wrong quarterback out of the portal? No need to discuss now, just stash it away for a rainy day. That's why I call him Honda McCord. Nothing flashy, Dan, nothing fancy, all reliable.

Know what I'm talking about? Get you to point A to point B. An antique if it were in 1989. And it doesn't get you to the playoffs. I tell ya, we have the photo now. People are using this as some sort of indictment because of what's maybe popped up in his past. But this is fine, this is relaxing.

This seems like a wonderful Saturday afternoon. Sure does. I hope it's afternoon. Is that a Starbucks? Well, it looks like it's a Starbucks employee sitting next to Urban Meyer, but it's definitely a supermarket. And the question that I then have though,

were you doing groceries and then stopped at the bar? Were you with someone who was doing groceries and stopped at the bar? Were you with someone who was doing groceries and stopped at the bar? Or were you driving past the grocery store and said, that's a good bar, you don't need groceries, I just want a beer? It's reckless. I'm asking, I'm asking, I don't know,

which of those are you guessing? Let's put in an interview request, let's ask him. Are bars common at grocery stores? I didn't think that. Yeah. Some bougie one. I've never seen this. Yeah. Some bougie one. I've never seen this. Dude, like the most recent string of Publix's

that they're building. They have bars? Have bars? What? Really? Yeah. The shopping carts have cup holders now. I'm being serious.

Love those. Really? That sounds like a good idea to be able to go, to be able to do my shopping and have a drink while I'm doing my shopping. Could you imagine a blue martini at a Target? Holy shit? printing money game changer

All my friends are gonna be I was just gonna say Kendall is gonna have so much fun. We just lost our blue martini in Kendall Where else can we find the divorcees up by my place D'Avorses! Up by my place Here come the Capitals They're good Mike. They are. And Ovi's already on the ice. Yep For those keeping track at home Mike Norvell now has to spell his last name with 10 L's. What a bad season man. Heddy play by Indiana to beat Purdue 66 to nothing hoping people forget about their Ohio

State game. It's a good job by them. In honor of my book signing this week with Greg Cody, StuGotsBook.com by the way. Top five athletes. Not really, just athletes and what their name would be if they were authors. Marcus Allen Poe. Marshall Faulkner. Stanzik Van Gundy. George Dickens. Dan Henningway. AJ Hawken. Watch out for the Grizzlies. Also very good. Mike McDaniel, do it against a team with a winning record. If you're a

team that has to play in Green Bay or Buffalo when it snows, skip the game, take the L and move on. Not worth it. Someone gets injured. Oh my God. You're going to lose. You're going to lose big. So many 49ers are physically broken. Like, can someone explain to me how Warner is able to play 10 weeks on a fractured ankle? I don't, how is that a fact? How is that so? He's one of the healthy 49ers. Yep.

Jets, don't you dare bench Aaron Rodgers. He gives us the best chance to lose. Duke and Kansas played last week in college basketball and not a peep. I remember the time when that game would have let us show we would have started with number one versus number two Kansas to Duke. I could name every player not now but back then. Milton Newton. That's crazy what he's saying though right that in our our lifetime that something that happened where that game obviously regionally it still matters uh... a great deal but nationally that's an entirely different sport than it used to be it is in terms of how we

consume it and what the allegiances are to it and we've always been bad at consuming that sport but that game would lead all of sports as one time and not that long ago in our lives. Everything looks better when you win except for Marcus Freeman. He looks as as good as you could look. Yeah. I don't understand how they lost to Northern Illinois at home. Just don't September. It's just his move. He does that once a year. I mean, not that, though.

And it's fine. It doesn't even matter now. He can lose once a year, and it's OK. A lot of people are allowed to make mistakes. They are. You do realize, though, if Notre Dame wins the championship, we're going to have to retroactively anoint that the biggest upset in the history of sports

bigger than the 80s Olympic hockey team. We're gonna have to go back to that game and be like, well, they beat the national champions in Notre Dame. Do you think, Lucy, because he's hot, he just does things like that so us normies feel like he's one of us? Yeah, hot people get treated differently.

If he were ugly, I think Notre Dame would be ranked a little bit lower. But he's just like, look, I'm fallible. I can make mistakes just like you schlubs. He just is like, look deeply in my eyes and then try to tell me I've messed up. And you can't because he's so pretty. I'm not certain anything will force you to grow up faster than Mike Tomlin telling you to grow up.

I'm growing up. he tells me to. When Jim Harbaugh is playing a game in the teens he's got you right where he wants you. 1713 otherwise known as Jim Harbaugh. Leonard Williams revenge game hey Rob Manfred wonder where you got that golden at bad idea you know what they are and Rob Manfred stands for Dan I can't believe it better be royalties I can't believe we have not yet talked about this today baseball rage baseball absolutely has stolen a Stu gots idea that we laughed out of the room when he made it stole a Stu gots is ahead He's having the biggest week in the history of sports journalism. Am I really? Yeah, I mean your ideas are pioneering They are groundbreaking and leagues that are noticeably and have been resistant to change throughout time

I'm willing to take a golden bat. I had bat idea from you that is stolen from you and Billy. It was the magic at bat that's not a fine for you. We've eliminated the fine bucket. But it was the magic at bat. And see what he did? He twisted the words around. I mean, he just changed the words up, you know? Golden at bat is not as good as magic at bat. You are ahead of your time sir. I know thank you. The Jets didn't score the last 40 minutes of that game. I hate them. When you think it can't get worse, the season from hell continues Dan. Speaking of hell, our priles. Dan those are the weekend observations. That was a quick dismount because I'm just so tired of the Jets.

I'm tired of talking about them. I'm thinking about bailing on the Jets for the first time in my life. Well, I'm thinking about a new to the old fireman Ed and well, that's the problem Billy the biggest story every year is some riff that fireman Ed has well No, but he quit the Jets and then he came crawling right back Pull that move. I'm thinking about quitting where you gonna go Buffalo, maybe Seems like a good time. I will say that somehow quietly, like this was something that I don't believe has gotten nearly enough attention nationally. Mike Ryan renounced what was a lifelong allegiance to the Cleveland Browns over a decision they made that turns out to be one of the most calamitous, however

it is you define terrible decisions in the history of sports. Mike Ryan checked out and was accused of being a virtue signaler and we all questioned whether or not it would be real. Mike Ryan has ceased caring about the Browns in a real way over the decision they made and I have not seen that happen in fandom a great deal. It's not an act, he's not faking it. He cared about that team as much as he's cared about any of these Heat teams and University of Miami teams. That was his team. Mike and I used to about the cleveland browns all the time i look his team embedded from this place like i remember some of the fandoms that i had in childhood like what the toys were he remembers through his grandmother going to a store a dollar store and uh...

cleveland browns play and it starts there the love of sports starts there that was his allegiance to the team they make a decision and he is to find it so repugnant that he just uh... bales and we all thought listening to it this must be an act it must be performative he gave up a lifelong the cleveland browns a plate to very fun days to fund games the last couple of

weeks you felt how about all of this like this spark has never returned it's died smothered and there hasn't been anything to resuscitate it when they played the sealers and nick chubb scored a touchdown i was very happy for nick chubb nick chubb's one of my favorite sports players ever so i root for nick chubb but no i'd the last two games that they played i've had fun watching it but i

don't feel any emotional so jerry jud Judy you're watching him run around out there none of it Jamis running around out there. None of it's interesting to you No, it's super interesting to me and it's super fun to watch that game Last night was super fun man the throw that Bo Nicks had to Mims. He's good. I didn't I Man, I was not familiar with your game. I did not think you had that in you. That was an amazing game It was super fun. But in terms of like getting emotionally invested, if I were a Browns fan, you know this because I would wear those losses

like I wore the Syracuse loss yesterday. I'd be devastated. I don't have that with me right now. Mike, I am curious though, when the whole Deshaun Watson thing is in the past and he's no longer with Cleveland, does your emotion change? I don't know. Like I don't, he's no longer with Cleveland. Does your emotion change? I don't know. Like I don't, he's been out plenty, right?

But I guess he's still looming over the franchise, but I don't, I don't know if I'll ever feel about a pro sports scene that way again. If anything, it showed me that maybe I had my identity tied up way too much. I haven't seen that happen a whole lot with people who deeply care about their teams ever. I don't see a whole lot whole lot with people who deeply care about their teams ever I don't see a whole lot of folks broken like Stu gots isn't actually gonna quit the Jets. That's just words That long broken in a different way. I'm just tired of the losing I but but for 40 years you've been in the space of doing this with the Jets

And I don't actually believe you'll stop caring that as soon as they're 13 and 4 you'll rush right back To their side if they win this weekend. I'll start looking at playoff scenarios. Did Jerry Judy have the best revenge game ever? I mean, he didn't win. In a loss. I mean, he didn't win. I reserved the right- He still got his revenge though, Billy. I'm with you.

Oh, he had an octopus and everything. He was kind of doing the thing to the crowd. Well, I can't hear you. Oh, Jerry Judy. Come on. Oh, more like Judge Judy, am I right, Craig? Yeah. He failed himself out of Denver, he failed himself out of Denver. He failed himself out of Denver.

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