The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: College Football Playoff Reaction? College Football Playoff Reaction!

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

It's been two hours of jam-packed content and we haven't even gotten to the CFP yet! What should the main takeaways be from the first two rounds of the Playoff? Did the committee get this right? Has t...he 12-team playoff been validated? And why do College Football's main media personalities seem to dislike their own product? Dan, Mike, Jess, and the rest of the crew dive into Notre Dame, Ohio State, and all the other fun storylines from around this year's CFP so far. Plus, Domonique Foxworth stops by to discuss all things NFL, but he'd rather focus on Roy's partially shaved eyebrow and Dan's new shirt. Domonique breaks down Bryce Young, Saquon Barkley, Baker Mayfield, Joe Milton, teams that tank, and the firing of Jerod Mayo. Also, Jessica shares her experience at the Golic household. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. So the story starts. Better Man now playing in select theaters. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. This is a clear cut end to the Butler-Heat relationship. This relationship has been over. I want to get my joy back. I'm happy here off the court, but I want to be back to someone dominant. Can you get your joy back here on the court? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Jimmy Butler's got a trait he's demanding, doesn't want to play for Spoke. For seven games now he's out, he's suspended, vibes are at an all time low. Though we can't forget when Jimmy made the Heat a finals team. He's become a menace, All time low, though we can't forget when Jimmy made the heat a final scene He's become a menace, Riley's gotten way too old for his shit Jimmy Buckets ain't just gonna stand there in the corner
Starting point is 00:01:13 And y'all he's 35, no he ain't gettin' any younger He's lost a couple steps, no longer alpha or a killer Best reveal the situation that you caught up in, huh He's done this almost everywhere else that he's been How can we be surprised that he's doing it again? Now we can test the market for an old malcontent to wanna talk or think about all of the money that we spent in Says he'd pay for Atlanta?
Starting point is 00:01:34 Just not the heat Maybe even for Toronto? Just not the heat Send his ass to Indiana? Just not the heat Could even trade him to Utah? Just not the heat Could get his joy back in Denver?
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Starting point is 00:01:56 Uh, that's a good song. The original is a good song, and that song is good. Uh, I have spent too much time, Stugatz, not talking about college football and everything that's happened over the last 10 days. I've got so many thoughts. I imagine you guys have a ton of thoughts. I don't understand how North Carolina was in a bowl game. They had allowed 52 points at the half at home to James Madison. Like you cannot have...
Starting point is 00:02:21 Everyone makes a bowl game now. Everyone does. Yeah, La Tech got in at five and seven Yes, a lot of crap out there, but holy shit that Pittsburgh Toledo game carried me for like three days It's always amazing when you find out how many college football coaches don't really know the new overtime rules in real time Isn't it amazing to watch all of these geniuses like even Le floor uh... have problems with time management they call the time out yesterday to kick up fifty five yard field goal in in just horrible freezing that was freezing water bottles that were liquid at one point then you just open them and they become ice and the play at the end green bay while playing its starters and having starters hurt
Starting point is 00:03:03 loses to chicago on dueling fifty yard field goals and you're trying to figure out which of these teams is going to screw up the end of the game more i go for the bears i like that that they ask the j more about it if you know like this are you guys happy about this like was this really the best thing he's like yeah screw the packers he said it with the f word but i'd censored it for you dan thank you i appreciate all of that the college football stugatsa among uh... beamer and beelama fighting over the dumbest thing
Starting point is 00:03:30 possible of about when you look at nother dame winning ohio state winning i think most of us would argue that nother dame and ohio state seem to be the best teams create uh... ohio state more than nother dame i think nother dame has been it's amazing they lost to Northern Illinois but I think Notre Dame has been you know certainly one of the top four teams in the country. What I learned about this playoff is we had so much time to figure this thing out and what we came up with is we're going to give Boise and Arizona State by weeks and let them
Starting point is 00:04:01 sit around and get healthy and get rested and then they come out and they and they get blown out It's been a disaster Arizona state Arizona state did not get blown out boys. He didn't get blown out. That was a good game I thought it's been to your point Like they've already said like it seems like that's being changed immediately the whole buy week thing Right like we're gonna get the those all that's guaranteed to those teams now are just playoff position But they're gonna totally reevaluate the buys which then everyone's gonna complain about when they realize it means Notre Dame can get a buy without playing in a conference championship game. But Mike, you agree, like after watching this thing play out, and there's four teams left, that there were five teams worthy of being in the playoffs this year, right?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Well, but that's a feather in the cap for the expanded playoff. Isn't that, is it not? Because right now everybody's picking Ohio State. Ohio State would be on the outside looking in. I think that's a different conversation. I also think when it comes to Ohio State, they obviously look like they're by far the best team
Starting point is 00:04:51 in the country right now after the Rose Bowl, like they just and the Tennessee game. They've just looked so good in the playoffs. But I don't think there's a way to create a seating that accounts for the fact that the
Starting point is 00:05:04 best team in the country once again crapped the bed in the last week of the regular season against their rival. That's just a thing that like you can't account for when you're seeding a playoff tournament. It's crazy. When Michigan though beats Alabama like that, I did find interesting watching the coverage of,
Starting point is 00:05:19 oh Boise State's a fraud, but Tennessee's not. Boise State shouldn't be in the playoffs, but Alabama loses and everybody and Georgia loses and Texas barely wins and oh look it's the Big Ten that's playing the best football in the country this year. Look at what you see. Oregon's got track stars. Oh yeah get out of here. Like you can't stay on the field. You're not physical enough. I didn't have it being like that Stu Gotts when michigan went beat ohio state i stopped believing in the idea that ohio state could run with all of these s e c team but those s e c teams i think that
Starting point is 00:05:52 that the on-field takeaway is it not that okay i guess penn state ohio state michigan a better than i thought they were and uh... you're not going to be able to make the argument that the best in the s e c is better than them i mean i god bless bless football talking to Lucy who covers college football here for for metal arc media She's been telling us that Penn State is legit good all season that if it were a 14 playoff Penn State would likely be one Of the teams that was selected to a 14 playoff Yeah, and yet if you watch the playoff games like I don't think they're playing particularly well As ridiculous as it may seem that that home field advantage was the entirety of the reason why they won
Starting point is 00:06:27 against SMU. SMU blew several opportunities to take control of that game Boise State also blew some opportunities there I think my takeaway and I'm so glad we missed that first week of reaction because it was asinine oh this is why you don't put Indiana in there people as if they were actually holding on to that as if they were actually holding onto that, as if that were any sort of take entering the CFP, that you don't put Indiana in there. No one had that take.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And Kirk Herbstree goes on TV, armchair quarterbacking the situation, and everyone does the same thing, pounds a table for the SEC. But then the week afterwards, we realized, oh, we should have cooled on that. But I think taking anything that we've seen from the bowl games, Alabama against Michigan,
Starting point is 00:07:06 what we saw from South Carolina, who didn't even know who Illinois players had been saying, like, they actually thought we were Syracuse, they had no idea who they were playing. These are exhibitions, there's opt-outs everywhere. I don't believe in using a bowl game as credence to support a take. They don't really matter, They're just these funky things that
Starting point is 00:07:26 exist with bastardized versions of teams. So I'm not down with that, but I think the takeaway here should be CFP got it right. They ended up getting it right. Once Clemson won that game, they got it right. And here we have a scenario in which everyone is, the odds on favorite is Ohio State to win this championship. And that's not something that would have been around had they not expanded these things. I gotta tell you that the last two years of what I've seen so far, Stu Gantz, with both Michigan and Ohio State,
Starting point is 00:07:57 it's hard not to come away with, oh wait, that's better than the top of the SEC? Like that happened kind of quick, that I thought it was Georgia, Alabama, I thought it was Clemson. It feels like that one happened a little quicker than I was ready for. The idea that physical northeastern football
Starting point is 00:08:14 is something that beats the Mississippi offense. And the one SEC team that's in the Final Four is Texas. The Big Ten's been a big deal for a while. Michigan won the national championship last year. I'm confused about these takes. Michigan had to beat Alabama to get to the national championship last year. No, but Dan is saying I think the general consensus is the top of the SEC is better than the top of the Big Ten, and that's been blown away.
Starting point is 00:08:41 This Big Ten, because I would just say that Ohio State has been in this class with Clemson and Alabama and Georgia. They've been competing with them. The ones that haven't have been Michigan and Penn State and Michigan was last year. No, Michigan's made the playoff multiple times before they won the national championship, so I disagree with that take. If you want to maybe, maybe the top of the SEC has been better than the Big Ten, you could argue, but I really think that like a lot of that is because of Nick Saban and his
Starting point is 00:09:11 tenure at Alabama, more so than like if you took like the top five and compared it to the top five or something like that. There's probably data that's out there that I could look into, but I do think like, yeah, Indiana, Indiana beat Michigan this year, so they should absolutely be considered the top of the big 10 with Ohio State and Penn State and Oregon, the teams that made the playoff. But yeah, it was a weird, weird season for the SEC. But an SEC team could still win the national championship because Texas is still in there. So I, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:40 There's just nothing that pisses me off more after a college football playoff game than say, see, that team lost lost so they shouldn't have been in there It's right when all the favorites with the home sites are winning like that's sort of the point Is that like the better teams get easier matches matchups? Like that's how the you know, that's how tournaments work with seeding in brackets Like I agree with you and it was very frustrating that whole weekend was so annoying because I was at the Notre Dame Indiana game and it was by far, I mean maybe not by far, but it was the best college football atmosphere game experience of maybe my life. Like it was so much fun. I had an absolute blast. And then to get home that night
Starting point is 00:10:20 and hear everyone blasting this game when it's like the first time we've ever had a college football playoff game at a home site and everyone's like just taking a big dump on Indiana. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, why are we not, why don't we like the sport that we cover? Why can't we like at least take a step back and be like, well, that was cool. Oh, it's, you know, Indiana's not there yet,
Starting point is 00:10:39 but this is a great season for that. I would like to seize on that and ask Dan, have you noticed what's been going on with college football media personalities because they've gotten more and more surly and they seem to have turned against the fan base that helped get the ratings to where they're at. It's almost as if they welcomed in Nick Saban as an elder statesman and they're all just trying to impress Nick Saban with how such a hard ass they can be and how I really think Kirk Herbstreet came away forever changed by that exchange that he had with FSU fans and he's just made a projection
Starting point is 00:11:11 across all of college football fandom. Isn't this the fun sport? Isn't this the one that we all gather around and say like this is school pride, this is cool stuff. You turn on college game day and everyone's telling you what's wrong with this. Guys you're the one that came up with the CFP idea. Why are you shitting on it one week into this whole expanded thing?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Can we have some fun here? All right, we can have some fun in a moment with Dominique Foster. Can we just have some fun? I mean, close games are fun, blowouts are not. I want to have fun. I had a blast at that blowout. Since you mentioned. Nice that Kirk Bend died. Kirk Herbstreet. Let's have some fun with playing the Shannon Sharp sound
Starting point is 00:11:50 going after Kirk Herbstreet because Kirk Herbstreet was watching Ohio State and he said, let's see what first take has to say about Ryan Day now. And then Shannon Sharp just went on and straight out threatened Kirk Herbstreet on first take. Even I'm gonna let it slide. I'm gonna be a good teammate. I'm gonna let it slide. Everybody's at ESPN because had you not taken the route you've taken, I would have lit their ass up. But I'm gonna let
Starting point is 00:12:14 it slide. You know what guys, congratulations Ohio State, you won the game. But hey, if we're gonna be on the same team, if we're gonna work for the same network don't do that Kirk Chris Fowler I promise you if you ever mention anything any platform that I'm on again and talking about I wonder what they're gonna say in negativity I promise you ESPN ain't got enough bosses to keep me off y'all for what I'm gonna say so I'm gonna let y'all slide today I'm gonna turn it over to Dio before I get myself in trouble but don't play with me. Go ahead, Dio. Damn. I gotta follow? I gotta? Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Oh, man. Not the best spot to put Dominique in. Shannon Sharp is really good at television. And Kirk, please say something else. Please, I'm- Because the next one's not gonna slide. Please, I'm imploring you to say something else. What a year 2024 was.
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Starting point is 00:15:38 Don Lebatard. Cheaters never prosper. Stugats. I ain't cheatin'! This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats! Dominique, welcome. I'm very excited for you. You're doing live shows now. The Dominique Foxworth Show is expanding. You're a giant empire now and you're doing a live show this week. And I heard stugots
Starting point is 00:16:06 How do you think this one's gonna go that one of the featured events is? Dan Graziano doing trivia against Bomani Jones. Oh, wow, well, Bomani's gonna Bomani's better who's the favorite here? Dominique money. Well, I mean, I think even Bomani would admit that Graziano's the favorite. So this was born out of a couple years ago, I created a trivia show for Bomani on his show. And then we started doing it on Get Up,
Starting point is 00:16:40 and Bomani always texts me the answers when Graziano's answering it. But Graziano, I think, even Bomani would answers when Graziano's answering it. But Graziano, I think even Bomani would admit that Graziano is the favorite. But you never know. It depends on the questions for sure. What else are you doing? And tell us more about the event please, because I was very excited. Thanks for having me on. It's January 15th. It's in Manhattan at the Whitby Theater. Graz will be there. Bomani will be there. Kevin Clark, Jason Goff, who else? Himbo's coming.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Oh, Greeny's gonna come. Greeny's gonna show up. I don't know what we're gonna have him do, but he's gonna show up. So get your tickets, $35. We got alcohol. It should be fun. I did my promo stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Now let's talk about the Panthers, guys. Which Panthers? The Florida Panthers? Yeah, the Florida Panthers. Like I've been listening to the show. It's so sad. The Dolphins make you sad. The Heat make you sad.
Starting point is 00:17:31 The Marlins make you sad. Panthers are good, right Roy? Absolutely. Panther talk. The defending champion Florida Panthers, yes they're the best team in the Tri-County area. I'm glad you brought Roy into the discussion, Dominique, because I want to ask you how rare it is
Starting point is 00:17:47 to give yourself a haircut and cut part of your eyebrow off. This is something that apparently has happened to Roy. Let's focus in on Roy's face here. Well, what happened? Do I have this right or do I not have this right? Have you indeed accidentally shaved part of your eyebrow? I believe I may have shaved a little portion of my eyebrow right around here trying to cut But it works though that's good
Starting point is 00:18:25 You know just accidentally sliding the clippers towards the eyebrow. I mean, it does look kind of good. You gotta be honest. Thank you. But how often does this happen? Explain to me, please, how rare an event this would be, not just for Roy, but for any human being
Starting point is 00:18:41 that has grace around their head. Yeah, I've never cut my eyebrows by mistake. Also, yeah, I don't know, Roy. I want to focus on how good it looks. And Barkov, right? What about that guy? He's good. He's so cute.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Juju, go. Put it on the poll, please. Have you ever shaved part of your eyebrow by mistake? I think Roy went to like a brow bar or something. Like Roy was trying to give him some eyebrows some shape and then he wasn't sure how it came out. So he said, hey guys, just, you know, my eyebrows look different.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I may have accidentally shaved off a piece, just looking for some compliments. And now he knows this worked. I guess I gotta do the other eyebrow now. You thought you stopped after one? Just do one. I like it. It's the imbalance, it's unpredictable.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It looks good, I'm a fan. Remember, the sisters, not twins. Eyebrows. Okay, sisters, gotcha. Dominique, name a second Florida Panther. Trivia. Oh, Kachuck. Third.
Starting point is 00:19:40 You trying to play me? You trying to play me, Dan? You trying to play me? You get yourself a nice little shirt with buttons. You got your first shirt in your life with buttons on it and you want to be a smart ass. Cause now you're Mr. Big Man. I got buttons.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Look at me. I can wear two shirts at one time. No one brags about buttons. No, that's what I was doing. He sees through me. I'm so fancy. He got me. He did.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I came in today, look at me. I got buttons. Nobody's got as many buttons as me. That's exactly it. First day back at school from the break. I'm gonna wear all the stuff my wife bought me for Christmas. Look, I'm gonna layer two shirts.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Look at me. I just layer two. It's coming through. It's 40 degrees this week. It's coming through to South Florida. Genuine winter, coldest days. It's 140 in the studio. It's horrible.
Starting point is 00:20:22 It is, it's so hot. Smells like sewage. It's just sewage soup. I'm in the middle of a snowstorm here, so you guys need to stop complaining. I would trade you in a heartbeat right now. Let's talk some football things. I've got a number of them to get to with you.
Starting point is 00:20:39 If Andy Dalton doesn't get into a car accident, is Bryce Young still a starting quarterback in the NFL ever again? Hell no, probably not. Maybe he gets another chance somewhere else down the road, but this Bryce Young turnaround has been the most incredible thing. Like he would, it's almost inexplicable.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Like I see what's happening here, but we always feel like, or at least for me, once you get an idea, the range of what a quarterback can be, he's not just going to blow the roof like this. If he started his career the way he's playing right now, we'd be talking about him as if he was one of the second comings, like the future of the league. The stuff that he's doing now is really incredible. Comeback player of the year, probably in my view, I'm a big Bryce guy.
Starting point is 00:21:24 He's fun. He's doing no look passes and celebrating on everybody in very Steph Curry fashion. I appreciate this comeback story that is Bryce Young. And I mean, it's always kind of the case is we forget the little events that changed the way that changed history for us. But yeah, it's always something like that. I guess it's not always a car accident for Andy Dalton, but it's always some random occurrence that puts somebody in the spotlight. The Chiefs are scared of Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Do you agree? I mean, come on, man. Stu got minor penalty two minutes for Chiefs talk. No, he's scared of him. He's not, does anybody know if Stu knows about the how the playoffs work? I want to ask you a sort of broader question that I don't think people are talking about today. Do you think that we can make the extrapolation with Deshaun Watson who was at one point a top five quarterback
Starting point is 00:22:23 best Texans teams we've ever seen are with Deshaun Watson as a top five quarterback. Do you make a link between everything he went through and a short circuiting confidence that made him go from a top five quarterback to a bad quarterback that everything that happened to him derailed his play? Everything he did, I should say, not everything that happened to him. Yeah, I mean I'm comfortable with making like general psychoanalysis sometimes, but this is so specific it's hard to say. He had injuries also, but I can't imagine that having all of those things that you have
Starting point is 00:23:00 done come back and be like the main storyline of your life, I can't imagine that's an easy burden to carry. Whether it is or not whether it is warranted and it's part of his responsibility for the things that he's done and decisions that he's made. It has to be tough. It weighs on every single person that would go through that would put themselves through something like that. I do find though incredibly interesting that they never paid Baker Mayfield, which I like to go back on that argument because I said they should have paid him and now he's the best quarterback right now playing in football. Like I know Mike is off of, um, yeah, I got a little carried away,
Starting point is 00:23:39 not the best in football. That was, that was an exaggeration. He's the best Browns quarterback that they've had in a long time, and I know Mike is off of the Browns, but you gotta enjoy the way Baker's playing right now, right? I've become a Bucks fan because of it. I love it. I love it. I love watching Baker play.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Quite honestly, I think he made one of the greatest throws in NFL history to McMillan. That catch and throw was unbelievable, and the TV broadcast angle does it no justice. It was so great, and right after, right? Right after, wasn't there a penalty right before that? Yeah, McMillan, yeah, he mimicked a gun, which you can't do.
Starting point is 00:24:13 By the way, after they scored the touchdown, they fired cannons. But he just did a first down, what he said he was doing was first down, not a gun, and then they penalized him. But he did like a shotgun type of. First, yeah, first down, you can't first down with two fingers.
Starting point is 00:24:26 That's the thing. That's the, yeah, just bowled. But yeah, that was a really good throw. But you guys obviously ain't watching Joe Milton if you think that Baker Mayfield's throw was the best throw of the weekend because Joe Milton had two throws in that game that were absurd.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I think he threw the best pass, or the fastest pass in the league this year. He was terrible at Tennessee. Terrible. No, but I could do that throw with an orange. So he can he's got a giant arm and I think the big the best play he had yesterday was called back on a penalty. I thought the the rollout to the left where where he that was called back wasn't it the one into the end zone there where he rolled out to his left and spun out?
Starting point is 00:25:08 I don't remember exactly what you which one you're talking about but he had another roll out that I think counted where he hit a guy in the middle field ridiculous pass then he had one to the left that was the fastest throw in the league this year Joe Milton is probably not very good at football but he had a really good day and that was fun it's very fun having a good day. What were your thoughts on Saquon Barkley? People are talking about him not breaking Eric Dickerson's record but he failed to break Eric Dickerson's record. That's a 16 game record. It's not a 17 game record. You're one of those guys then? Well I'm just saying you got to do it in the same number of games. No you don't. You don't. You don't. You kind of do. I mean. No you don't. What do you mean you don't? It's a season record.
Starting point is 00:25:44 They extend the season. The record changes. Like no one points to Eric Dickerson and says that that the juice still has the record Because he did it in 14 games like if they extend the season it becomes a season record I don't fall into this trap. But I'm saying oh shirt Dan is too smart for that. No, it's gotta be the same OJ Simpson has to own the record because that's the fastest that anyone's done it in 14 games and that's what the season was. If you gave OJ Simpson three more games, what are you talking about there? It's not the same. I think OJ Simpson is not allowed to have any records anymore. I think that we decided that OJ Simpson's behavior off the field means
Starting point is 00:26:22 that we have to pretend that he wasn't the best running back in NFL history But at the time that Dickerson was breaking that record don't you think OJ was telling someone hey, I did it in 14 games Probably and who cares it's a new record You know what like this is I do a lot of old man things now because I'm an old man but I got pulled into our ancient running back rabbit hole a couple of days ago when we were having this conversation and Hershel Walker was absurd. Like there's so many running backs that we don't see anymore because we've devalued a position
Starting point is 00:26:54 that if you watch their highlights, like we all know Barry Sanders, just watch 15 minutes of Hershel Walker play football or OJ Simpson play football. Do that young people who are not cool enough to wear two shirts like me and Dan. Watch some old football. You'll appreciate it. That's Ambassador Walker to you. Talk about Georgia football though. I just want to talk about Kachuk.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Barkov. Who? So when is, I mean I assume the new Dan attire is motivated by his beautiful wife When's Abby gonna get you right still come on man up your game. There's no getting me right Dominique We're well past that point. She's stuck with me. I am what I am a changing man. All you need is a second shirt That's all you need buddy. Is that it Dominique last thing before I get you out of here That Giants Colts game last week was more interesting than anything that happened yesterday the idea that the giants and the colts would play a football game the giants would ruin their chances of getting a number one pick in the colts would have their season ended because that's what happens when you go to the backup quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:27:57 like that game uh... and yesterday's game for that matter you can't lose that draft status on one of these regular season games at the end of a season when you're firing your coach. Don't play Joe Milton. I mean, yeah, I, I, I, I get it. I'm staunchly opposed to, to losing intentionally as you guys know, and as Dan likes to mischaracterize me all the time about when it comes to the, Dolphins. But if you're if you're bad at football you're bad at football being extra bad at football is it gonna make you good like playing for draft status is gross to me generally and I think we have this extended season you're gonna send me into a long rant
Starting point is 00:28:39 that's probably pretty boring I'm gonna self edit myself and and point out the fact that if teams stink they deserve to stink and they shouldn't be rewarded with high draft picks. Generally, I hate that as a concept. We should eliminate the draft and only have free agency where you can use money to negotiate. And we can still have a fun show. You can announce your what team you're signing with out of college and they can pay you however much they want to pay you to get you come. I generally hate the idea that there's ever any incentive to be bad. It sucks. Don't reward the guys who suck.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Dominique, what'd you make of Gerard Mayo being fired after just one season? It seems like he was a bridge to Mike Vrabel, which seems really unfair. It does seem unfair, but you got to pick your battles. Gerard Mayo has a track record that makes it hard for me to defend. And it makes it very difficult for me to say that I would want him to be the quarterback of my team. And it's not even the on-field stuff that I care about as much as it's the way that he's handled the team through the media. I think that we understand now while Bill Belichick would always say on the Cincinnati because Gerard Mayo I think did some damage to the psyche of the team and the culture of the team
Starting point is 00:29:50 By just what he was saying and so he's not the guy that I want to defend it is Unfair to give one a guy One year head coaching and assume that he can get the job done and get as good as you want him to be But I think they're gonna move on or no I know they're going to move on. And it seems like with Vrabel, like it feels like they already have a plan set up and in place and Vrabel is a good coach, but I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Who do you think is going to be the charade hire? I mean, the charade interview, who's it? Who's up? Tell them I'm available. You need a black guy to show up and chit chat, holla at me. I'll come up in New England. I ain't been there in a couple of years. Dominique, at least wait till Monday, like doing it yesterday. Just felt so disrespectful Let the man enjoy his win. He had many of them like it was 20 minutes after the game
Starting point is 00:30:33 It's the one that got him fired though. I think I mean It does it does kind of feel like that. That's part of it, but Fire the man the next morning, let him sleep good that night. Let him go home and be the big man. Celebrate. Where can people get tickets to what it is that you're doing? Tell people again on your way out, Dominique. Please, we're very excited for Dominique and his growing show, The Dominique Foxworth Show has gotten very popular on ESPN and now he's traveling, touring.
Starting point is 00:31:00 He's coming to New York. Give the people the details on your way out, please. Yeah, you can go to at Foxer24 on Twitter. I put a link up right there. The URL is too long to spell it out. You guys wouldn't know anything about that. But you can go there and click it and buy the tickets. $35, it's gonna be fun, drinks, guests, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Meet and greet, meet and greet? Oh yeah, we're doing meet and greet for at 6.30. I wanna thank you guys for coming up and being guests on this show because you're my friends and you care about me, thanks to all of you. Thank you, Dominique, good seeing you again. Let us veer quickly, Stugatz, to something I have taken too long to get to.
Starting point is 00:31:40 There are a number of football things worth talking about. I love those Titans uniforms. We wasted them, those Euler uniforms on the Titans. Oh, they're fantastic. And I know Tom Brady stinks as a broadcaster, but I laugh every single time. They just put up the graphic, seven times Super Bowl champion under his name.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's just an asinine thing to read about somebody. It's not like I'veine thing to read about somebody. It's not like I've forgotten, but when you see it written that way, like the champion, okay, so he didn't just make it seven times, he won seven times. That's a thing that happened. One with the bucks. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:17 So I wanna get to some football stuff, but getting back to college football, emotionally, Jessica has careened all over the place over the last two weeks on something that began as, I can't believe how lucky I am. I get to go watch a special Notre Dame team play meaningful national games. It's not something we've felt for a while that Notre Dame might be one of the very best teams in the country. Well, Notre Dame might be the best team in the country.
Starting point is 00:32:49 We felt like a couple of years ago, maybe there were a team that could win a national, this is a team that probably should win the national championship. Okay. Yes, Notre Dame's been a very good football team for probably the last decade and a half but they haven't won meaningful postseason games I would say. They've been solid they've had 11-12
Starting point is 00:33:10 win seasons they've played in a lot of New Year's six games they played in multiple playoff games but they haven't won any of them. So yes like the the Sugar Bowl was a huge moment for Notre Dame to finally win one of these games with a team that has been playing excellently for the last 12 weeks. And yeah, it was it was really exciting to go from Indiana coming to South Bend, going to the tailgate there, having a great time. And then we and I decided let's go to New Orleans for New Year's Eve and go to the Sugar Bowl. And then obviously we woke up on New Year's Day and just like, I've honestly felt pretty shitty
Starting point is 00:33:47 since Wednesday morning. I feel like super, super lucky that we weren't on Bourbon Street when the attack happened. But we were there all day on New Year's Eve and waking up Wednesday to like a hundred texts from loved ones asking if we were okay. It's just like a really jarring feeling. So I just, I feel really, really lucky obviously. from loved ones asking if we were okay. It's just like a really jarring feeling.
Starting point is 00:34:05 So I just, I feel really, really lucky obviously, and like just, I'm glad we were okay, but it's a horrible situation. I posted on my Instagram story yesterday, a link to some sites that are, you know, you can donate money to, to help some of the victims. So I'll repost that today, but yeah, it was just like an awful, awful, awful situation.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And I just feel terrible for all the victims and all the families and everyone who's impacted by the attack on New Year's Day morning. It was just truly like just a horrific thing. The transition is awkward to how fun the trip was at the start, Stugatz, because have you actually ever stayed at the Golic home? I know this has been a source of tension
Starting point is 00:34:46 between you and Jessica, because she seems to have made her way into the Golic family, the Notre Dame family, in a way that is a little bit closer than how you've tried to make your way into their home. I haven't. I have asked several times, and several times they have said no.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And so I am insanely jealous of Jess, that she has access that I don't have to the Golic family Drives me crazy to be honest with you because I love that family Well, I'm sure they would have let you stay there if you went to the playoff game in South Bend No, no, no Well, it's here and out they just let anyone into their house because I got back from the game at like one in the morning This was December 20th after Notre Dame beat, Indiana And I walked into
Starting point is 00:35:25 the kitchen and I saw Kyle Rudolph and another former ND player sitting at their counter and Mike and Mike were nowhere to be found. And there's someone with his back to me and he turns and he's like, hey, I'm Shane. And I was like, oh, it's Shane Gillis because he was on game day. He was the guest picker that day. And he made fun of, yes, the Oklahoma Thunder, Shane Gillis Alexander. He was just like sitting there and introduced himself to me and his manager, Becky was there, very nice woman, Dan, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I told him, I was like, hey, my boss is a big fan of all comedians, he thinks you're a modern day philosopher if you ever wanna come on the Levitard Show, standing invite, so we exchanged information with his manager, so I did some networking for you, so don't say I didn't work at all the last two weeks Okay, South Beach sessions. Maybe coming soon. He said he was a That's a great actually Do you pay for comfort plus upgrades because that flight it was not full so I upgrade comfort plus yeah Wow, we get the all-fort Plus? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:25 If we get the All-Star on the show, that's worth it. Yes. Anyway, so I didn't get to see College Game Day that day because I was tailgating, but it turns out he made fun of Nick Saban the entire time. We're looking like Indiana Jones. Yeah. Alabama Jones had me dying.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Someone finally addressing, yeah, you guys cheated, right? You guys paid, that's why you're so great. You paid. And then everyone's squirming, and Nick Saban not playing along with it. He's like, this is a fun show, right? He's like, this is a fun show, right? He brought it up again the next day,
Starting point is 00:36:52 like he was insanely triggered, and still no one has explained to me why he was wearing the hat. Why was he wearing that hat? I do not understand. The time in my life that felt most like that, and we talked to Jimmy Kimmel about this after it happened, was when Jimmy Kimmel went into the booth as a comedian and was like, why are you guys treating this like a cathedral? You got the court jester Kornheiser
Starting point is 00:37:18 over here and he gets a football handed to him by Bob Kraft and all of a sudden everything out here is sacred. So Shane Gillis comes out and says Alabama Jones and of course Saban of course Saban's been pontificating from high on college football while doing all the commercials one of them in a whirlpool while still wearing a shirt let's go Nick come on Nick you can't be in the whirlpool still wearing a shirt in the whirlpool. Wait the VRBO commercials are really good actually. They're pretty good. Those are good commercials. The no fun police.
Starting point is 00:37:46 The sun is dangerous. Made me laugh, yeah. Especially at that age. And he seems to have a good tan, so I practice. Then do a different commercial that doesn't have you with, look, me and Chris Cody can do a Whirlpool shirt, for sure. But if you're gonna do the commercial, you can't be, put it on the poll, Juju, at LeBataan Show.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Can you wear the shirt in the Whirlpool? Do you think Greg Cody is going into a Whirlpool with a shirt? Of course you can, like Greg does it, Nick can do it, it's an old man thing, that's all it is. I mean. It's a hide your body thing, it's not an old man thing. Not in your case.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I think that SGA example on game day is a good example of like, why has this show become so surly? And I look at what's happened. It's crazy. You had the FSU thing with Herbie and you had Nick Saban come on and I think they defer to him. Credit to Pat McAfee who I know is pretty polarizing remains to me to a degree but especially on that show there was talk that he may not even come back and I think by just being himself maybe toning it down a little bit but by comparison and contrast to the rest of it he is so welcome That energy is so needed because it has become a wet blanket
Starting point is 00:38:49 of crotchety college football takes that make me feel bad for liking this sport. I would say that generally across all American sports media, you will find an aging cynicism from the people who have covered it for the longest time especially now that the controls are gone and i don't know if is it true of you of who were she yours that uh... six million dollars is being offered the reports of six million dollars ten million dollars to get viewers away from texas while he's still there and not go to the draft so you can just have a quarterback
Starting point is 00:39:23 next year because the University of Miami obviously got Cam Ward cheap when you see what these things can do to the economy. Like of course the old crusty people aren't going to get comfortable with that when now the wait a minute you're mean to tell me that the college kids are going to be making a lot more than I am at covering the sport that the left tackle for Colorado is going to earn a lot more than me who's been a gatekeeper who gets to invite people to the Heisman ceremony. He realistically should go back to college though for another year, right? Like his draft stock is not where it should be.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Like he should take the money and then potentially increase his draft stock over this next year. If the number is 10 million, that's more than he'll make in the NFL on a rookie contract. What were we talking about? Ewers. I saw 6 million is the highest. Is Mario in the game? Need a quarterback. Quinn Ewers is certainly not gonna be playing a Texas next season. I can guarantee you that. That's a yes. What a year 2024 was. Happy New Year's everybody. New Year is this week and some of you are gonna be counting down to the new year with a lot of friends and a lot of family around. That's a lot of pallets, how do you make everybody happy? You make them happy by making new year's
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