The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Count Orlok's D*** At 7:45 In The Morning

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Tony kicks off the hour with his latest NBA hot take: The New York Knicks are COOKED. After Tony defends his stance, Dan and Mike lead the crew toward other NBA storylines: Jimmy Butler finding his joy in Golden State, Wemby's season-ending injury, and the mess with the Philadelphia 76ers. They also check out the personal auction of Adrian Wojnarowski. Then, Greg Cote wants someone around the studio to cut his hair with clippers he brought in from home, but he has some particular requirements that person would have to meet before he lets anyone touch his head. Plus, the myth around Michael Jordan continues to build, the link between vampires and mustaches, and Greg's thoughts on Al Golden and the Cincinnati Bengals.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Tony has proclaimed, and I don't know if he's first, the New York Knicks are cooked. Cooked that you can watch Boston and Cleveland play and know that that team can't beat those two teams. And it's stark to see because when the Knicks had Mitchell Robinson, they destroyed the Cleveland front court in a way that took me totally off guard.

The changes between those two franchises when the Knicks have indeed elevated to see Cleveland elevate that much more, where you're like, holy shit, Boston's having all sorts of trouble keeping up with Cleveland. I don't know if it's just because Mobley's usage rate is something that they're working around more, but the New York Knicks have a better team than they've had. This team is better than the last two Brunson-led teams. Like, I'd rather have Carl Anthony Towns and Bridges in this kind of offense, but they're not as good as the top of their conference. That part's obvious. It's not just that they have some problems at home. Those two teams, Cleveland

and Boston, look better than them. Dan, the Knicks are officially cooked. Confirmed. Thank you. Here's the thing, right? They're 0-7 against the top teams between OKC and the two teams in the East being Boston and Cleveland. They got spanked by Boston, got spanked by Cleveland.

The issue is this, they have an elite offense between Jalen Brunson, between Carl Anthony Towns, who's been playing amazing, Bridges, Hart, all these guys are very good on offense. Their problem has been defensively, Carl Anthony Towns might be the worst defender in the NBA. Their drop coverage on everybody. No, no, like statistically, if you look up some of the advanced stats on Carl Anthony Towns, he is legitimately the worst defender in the NBA. So when you have guys like Porzingis, when you have guys like Mobley, just in the East that are going to give him trouble, it's like this next team was supposed to be built to beat those teams.

They're what 38 and 19, 38 and 20, whatever they are right now, and they are not even close. I don't know how many people do sort of the defensive metrics required to understand what Gobert was doing for Carl Anthony Towns in Minnesota that made well but made that the best Minnesota team of my lifetime. Minnesota has fallen back at least in part because they can't pair those two guys together anymore and they had to just get out from under salary. Like Minnesota, how often do you see that in today's day and age where a team doesn't feel like it could keep its best team together in basketball because it can't because

Carl Anthony Towns got traded and all of us were like we know he's a very nice player and that's exactly the kind of Player that New York would want but also that's a hell of a lot of money and I think he's a number two Well, we just saw Dallas do it with Luca So it's like that's kind of the most extreme example where they're like, I don't know if we can keep this team together with Luca going forward as our super max player. But when you look at some of the stuff that go bear was taking off the plate of, of Carl Anthony towns, he was able to kind of make him into a three where he didn't have to really worry about playing defense. Now, if you're the anchor of a defense, like Hartenstein was a couple of years ago where you let him

walk and then you're waiting on Mitchell Robinson. I love that you said it that way. That's how you say it. I know. I love that you did. Thank you. So you're hoping that Mitchell Robinson, who hasn't played in two seasons, is the lifeline that's going to save the defense that Tom Thibodeau puts his hat on. Mitchell Robinson, who Mike Ryan calls trash. I mean, I don't even remember the last time I thought about that guy. You do remember the last time I thought about that guy You do remember the last time you thought about probably about two two years ago two years ago. I haven't seen him since Looks like the Warriors are playing well, though

Oh, well, let's talk about this for a second because I mentioned the other day that Steph Curry hasn't had somebody who goes and gets the dirty stuff Free-throws that Jimmy Butler does to slow the game down the dirty stuff free throws that Jimmy Butler does to slow the game down. And he just hasn't had that in his lifetime. And now you have Draymond Green guaranteeing a championship. And this is early for this one to happen. I don't know. Have you guys seen this?

Steven A Smith has said the Jimmy Butler trade that he dismissed as a nothing trade, he has tweeted, I may have been wrong. Whoa. It's been only five or six games, only five or six games, and now he threatens to be wrong both times because he's willing to walk back based on the strength of six performances

because the- They're four and one since the quarter. And they're blowing people out. Yeah, they just destroyed Dallas. They're winning, they're winning easily, but it's five or six games and and You're talking about they're getting into the 130s and 140s and the game looks like it's being made easier for Steph That's interesting to watch right because when I don't know if when you were watching the Warriors if all of us to the eye

Could tell how or where clay was slowing I don't know where the prime of careers are anymore because Ovechkin doing this at 39 is wildly confusing to me. Three goals yesterday, he's gonna break a record I never thought was broken, he's 39 years old, how is any of that possible? He's gonna do it in a season where he missed extended periods of time. It's unbelievable what Ovechkin is doing. I can't understand how all of Aging has changed in sports that makes it so that I would think that Jimmy Butler going in there at that age

Isn't gonna have all that much left in the tank, but maybe 35 with all that mileage Thibodeaux mileage Just all the mileage on that body Maybe there is something there that Golden State has not had as it tries the mileage on that body, maybe there is something there that Golden State has not had as it tries the final furnace of fumes that there are on Draymond Green on whatever all of that is that Jimmy Butler can bring something to that team it hasn't had. I think that's the part that you're hoping Draymond can somehow recapture a little bit of his old Draymond ways because you've got Steph who now can kind of take a step back, let Jimmy take some of the offensive load off of him. The problem is they're a really small team.

If you look around like who the Warriors have, it's like, how are you going to compete with the big teams out West that have Jokic, that have like a go-bear inside. There's just too much where the Warriors are like, all right, we're just going to play small ball and Draymond hopefully can recapture something. But if not, eh, Jimmy, get us a bucket. When you're looking at the storylines in that sport

and the young people are still vying for what has been LeBron and Steph's throne. You guys saw the stat that since 2020, LeBron is 0-21 on game-winning or game-tying shots at the end of the game. Since 2020, 0-21 at the end of games. Because somewhere the oldest player in the league has to age, even as he's putting up 40 points in triple doubles, and they're still really good. And Luka finally has a game yesterday where you're saying to yourself, okay, that looks like something resembling Luka,

but you guys don't think that the Lakers can do anything against OKC, do you? You don't, like when you're looking at OKC putting up a point differential of 13 points a game, nobody's looking at that team and saying, I don't trust them because I haven't seen them do it yet. They're too young, right? Well, to be fair, I'm not looking at all. But what I will say is over the last couple of years, as load management and the treatment of stars to avoid injury has Continued to increase throughout the league. We've had pretty shocking results in the playoffs You've seen teams not take the regular season

So seriously and it's made the playoffs a little bit more unpredictable because you can't account for what the max effort of these teams Looks like Golden State is a prime example of that because they're playing well right now because Jimmy's feels like trying. I haven't really seen Jimmy try in quite some time. Joy is back. You grabbed the clipboard and started drawing plays in the huddle. Like when was the last time you did that? It's just a variable that it's hard to account for. You're just essentially guessing.

Now when they enter the playoffs and free throws are harder to come by, but the clips that I'm seeing of them, I mean, he's doing the playoffs and free throws are harder to come by, but the clips that I'm seeing of him, I mean, he's doing the pull up J's in transition. Like it looks like the way when Jimmy's game is really cooking, it looks like that. I don't know if it can sustain that, but he's one of the great playoff performance of our time. That was really well said. One of the things that I think that we can agree on the is that uh...

steph curry is going to make the game easier for him and he will get make the game easier for steph curry and i would imagine would enjoy the light and load of being the second best player on the team he doesn't have to be used the same right away it's not quite as exhausting and so uh... i i i don't want to underestimate that he's playing with the greatest shooter Any of us have ever seen who's distorted all of the basketball and one of the reasons that they look so good is because holy shit Steph looks so good playing with that guy because of how you pair those two things where Jimmy we all know he's a savant

He's not LeBron in terms of wherever brilliance is but clearly he knows something about how to play basketball that is helpful to a lot of different people if they can withstand the furnace that is temporary i think that the big difference is that jimmy butler accepts with understanding that he's the second best player on his new team and he never could in miami in miami he's like on the alpha dog i'm, I'm not going to take a second fiddle to Tyler Hero. I'm Jimmy Butler. Now he's got Steph Curry. He's got no choice but to say, yep, he's better than me. I'm happy to do what I'm doing. I want to ask you guys though, because all of the star power in this sport is going to change. You've got over the weekend two injuries that are pretty substantive. The Philadelphia

thing seems to be something that is going to lose Darrell Morey the ability to get another job. The way that that blew out where Joel Embiid is now, you know, he's owed over the next four seasons $250 million and it would appear that all of the pressures involved in getting him back out there are something that derailed his progress yet again. So the process is sort of ravaged this guy, and then you've got Wemba Nyama out for the season as well because of blood clots and the size of these human beings

and what they're being asked to do around and during load management like there are things involved here with what the the wear and tear on the body is that make it so that we're like where's kawaii leonard i don't know where kawaii leonard all the whole mystery doctor saying that made him change teams all over the place because it it it is kind of uh...

where where an agreement now that the science has made it so whether you agree with late load management or not we now all understand that the athletes and their training staffs are all telling you these bodies need more conditioning than we're being allowed to have well with Joel that is always been part of the criticism you You have a fragile body. You entered the league as someone with an injury risk. That was how they were evaluating him as a prospect. This is a risky proposition. So the fact that he's had a fragile career,

when you apply that context is really not a surprise. Where people get on Joellen, where I think it's fair, is on top of all these things that were worried about you your frame your injury history don't you want to put your body in the best possible position to withstand the beating of this sport and Optically and attitude wise and by some reporting. He doesn't have that kind of commitment to his body Billy Why are you smiling because I love the internet. Sometimes you just stumble across things. We're talking about the NBA, you're talking about Kawhi Leonard, Paul George,

the Clippers, all of that jazz. Not the Utah Jazz, but you're talking about all of that. Not that terrible. And I found on this website called putabouty.com in Spanish. It would be a totally different website. But it's called the Woge collection. And you can go on there and you can bid on things like the iPhone used to break Paul George,

Kawaii to LA Clippers news. The iPhone used to break NBA suspending season because of COVID iPhone. Many different credentials are here also. And I would never, I would never suggest that someone does this. Proceeds, by the way, go to St. Vonaventure. I would never suggest that someone does this,

but his Disney ID is listed on there, his ESPN Disney ID badge. And when we were at Disney, when we were at Disney, that badge would get you free parking at the parks, which now is like $35. Yeah, it was just like, show me the badge, thank you. They'd say welcome home, which is always very welcome.

Welcome home, and you're like, oh, I'm home, oh, we work here. And then you'd go in and you'd save like $35. I have not done it since I've left, so I don't know if that is something that still works or not. I don't know if any of my coworkers here are bold enough to tell us that they've done this or not,

but $250 could get you free parking at Disney for life. I just need to understand more details. Is Wode selling some of his personal memorabilia in order to raise money as part of fundraising for his new venture as general manager of the Bonnie's? Yeah, you got it. That is correct. You understood it.

His personal effects. How many of these are Darren Revelle gonna scoop up? Ooh. Can we find out what some of the prices are on some of these things? I can tell you all the prices. What do you wanna know? The Paul George Kauai to the Clippers phone

is currently being offered for $350. You could buy all of Woj's stuff if you wanted to. NBA suspending the season due to COVID, $525 is the high right now. That's a big phone. Now his 2023 NBA draft credential. Dinner? Also known as the Wembee draft, $200.

What's Dinner with Woj going for? That just says limited available. Of course. Let's click it here. Oh, the offer price right now, it doesn't say, but the example is $2,000 to have dinner with Woj. He's picking up the tab, right? It's unclear2,000 to have dinner with Woj. He's picking up the tab, right? It's unclear.

I think you're picking up the tab. Well, okay, hold on a second. Can you give this? We should get that for Ramin. Hold on a second, because all of these, all of these have offer prices. So like his 2024 NBA draft credential, which many of you might say, 2024 NBA draft credential.

Why would I want that? Well, because that was Woj's final draft. So this is a piece of basketball history here. And the clearance levels that he had were FLV2 and four. So I think we all know what that means. Now here is the offer. It's suggesting $2,000 if you wanna make an offer. However, the high offer right now is $500.

So we haven't reached it. There's eight days left if you guys wanna an offer. However, the high offer right now is $500. So we haven't reached it. There's eight days left if you guys wanna support the Bonneys. How do you verify what the phone is though? Is there a text on there saying like Paul George, is it done? Is there like- It's a dangerous game.

So you're saying that someone would be lying about the iPhone used for the 2023 draft lottery. I'm not lying, I'm just saying how do you verify it? That was the Wemby draft. It's not saying that. It's not me, you're saying that? No, don't say that. Okay, hold on a second. Don't do that.

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Because I will tell you that last week I thought one of the show highlights was chris cody going into the back row and being someone who uh... maniacally squeezed juice until he got orange juice almost half a glass uh... heroically today his father has brought in and we famously cut his hair here months ago he didn't like the haircut we got it professionally cut one of Tony's friends my barber here my personal barber Dan I like the haircut no you didn't you didn't I just didn't like having to borrow 20 bucks to tip the guy you know you didn't like the haircut that much your wife didn't like the haircut that much it's okay it was

a good haircut but you didn't like that it was that close yes Erlene that's correct didn't like the haircut it was a good haircut it was that close yes, Erlene if that's correct. Didn't like the haircut. It was a good haircut. You look 20 years younger. Yes, but Greg Cody has brought in today and I did not know that this was something that he had in his arsenal, a personal haircut kit. And so are we gonna cut his hair with his personal haircut kit to see if his haircut, if he can do this? He's scared. He's a little bit proud of his hair and he's scared of going home to Orleans with a haircut that looks ridiculous. Are we gonna try to do this live? Well, we need a volunteer.

Who, what do you need? I mean, I need someone who is gonna volunteer. I can't do it myself. Right, but who would you like? Would you like to select whoever it is is gonna do this? I would like a volunteer from anyone in the studio who has been a barber. Look around the room like this. Face off to our look. Greg this is one of the worst ideas yet. Do not do this. Someone who has been a barber. Or has hair stylist experience. Would you please

support Greg Cody on a Greg Cody Monday? I don't need you saying this being the spot where you decide that you're gonna say no. I just there's long-term implications here. When Stu got shaved his head it took well that's true lifelong for some. Okay so this is just all this is is just I mean it's not I thought it was gonna be something other than a but this is just something. What did you think it was gonna be? Oh I don't know. You think someone would pop out of there like hello I'm here to cut a hair. No I just thought that it's a self shaving kit you could do this for yourself It's supposed to be something that you're doing for yourself

It's impossible to do it yourself because then you'd be going like this hold on a second I think I can help you Greg because Roy has told us that he shaves his own head Roy gives himself his own haircuts So Roy's used this equipment before yeah, but I shaved my head. He's not gonna want a bald head Well, he didn't say. No, I want to start with a one or a two on the side and work up. That's a lot by the way. What is? One is what I have. One is really short. Which is this? Start with a two or a three. A little higher. And remember fade is the word you use. The fade. Fade it up. I need a fade expert. You want somebody to give you a fade? Tight fade. Yeah, I'll call my boy Lucas. We'll bring him back. All right. We going to do this or not? Is that what I want? I need

the payoff now. Now somebody's got to do this We got to get somebody back there like I can't we can't bring this up as content have the kid out here And then just bail on it now. We've got to do it where the whole kitten caboodle. We're in too deep I I did also want to say to Greg Cody who does do do stop fiddling Thank you a lot of good work around here just to get promotion for his podcast the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody with has that's a fine a lot of nostalgia in it and This week because they do nothing better than self-involvement They are reviewing the top 100 guests in show history

I'm stunned to hear that they've had 100 guests. Sure, we've had like 138. So if you don't make the top 100, that's on you, not me. You want the bottom 38? That's some good stuff. That's gonna be on the next episode. We're previewing it a little. We talk about it a little on this episode.

Wouldn't it be easier to see who didn't make the cut than to see who did? You're doing the top 100 guests in the history of the Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody. How's that looking in? We want when Hal Habib comes on to be like, now joining us the 82nd most popular guest in show history, Hal Habib. How did you rank these? Did personal feelings? We actually did it mathematically. Christopher and I and Yeti each had a ballot of 138 names and beside each name we put five Three or one one is somebody that we don't even remember him being on the show

Three is somebody were sort of waffling five Big star why'd you do one two three? I'm gonna be honest. I voted everyone in here has been on the show a lot of threes in this room I was gonna three I was gonna guess even numbers if it was like if you're on the show. A lot of threes in this room. A lot of threes. We never guess even numbers. If it was like, if you're on the show, is that a guest or you're just like, nah, you're friends with the show,

so that doesn't count as a guest. I wanna cover the math of what it is that we're talking about here, okay? In the history of the show, he has had 138 guests. So all he's doing here is eliminating 38 of the guests. Only 38 are being eliminated. So this is, there are a lot of people making the late cut here who probably weren't very good,

unless you think that Greg Cody and his son and Yeti, would you please stop opening that loudly, unless you think that they... It works. Unless you think that they have batted 100 out of 138 on great guests. Batting 100's bad. unless you think that they have batted 100 out of 138 on Great Guest. Well batting 100's bad. Well here's- 100 out of 138 is not batting 100.

I was told we were all threes in this room, which is not great. Oh, that's- All the threes are making it. That's proprietary information, first of all. All the threes are making it. What do you mean it's proprietary information? The podcast is out.

No, the podcast- That's next week's episode. We're previewing the top one. Oh, sorry. You broke the news, are making it. What do you mean? It's proprietary information. The podcast is out. It no that's next week's episode We're previewing the news you leaked it. I'm sorry. It's gonna be pissed. No Furman's not on it Very abrupt trail Everybody who makes the list there's a reason for it. That was a hastily produced the Confirm and needed more echo. How do you not hear the conferment needs to be basier? Confirm it. How do you not hear that? Keep going, the trail should still be on.

How do you hear that so poorly that you don't understand how much funnier conferment would be if it echoed for nine seconds? Confirm it. No, that's not good enough. Ethan's voice only gets so deep. Is there? How do we not have somebody

in the other room who can give us the voice we need to put a little funny in this? It's gotta be beso profundo. Do you know how much better Roy, show them how it's done please, go into the other room, don't do it now, don't do it live, I will not put the pressure on you now, close the segment, go into the other room and make a better confirming than that using a voice that is uh... that is funnier than the one i want to be a

fifteen-second trail and cut breaks here where you're at it somebody else help me with the cutting of uh... greg kody's hair uh... greg that the top guest in show history was it tough to come by who who was number one we haven't we haven't determined the list yet. We can, I can, no, no, I can reveal, we voted, there were about 20 people that got consensus fives from all of us. So the top 20 all got consensus fives,

so we're gonna have to order those, and that will be revealed this week. Is this just on the podcast, or does this include when we had like the fortune teller or whatever on the 24 hour marathon? This includes any appearance. If you send in a video clip to the fortune teller or whatever on the 24-hour marathon? This includes any appearance if you send in a video clip to us if we played you on the show if we've hyped you In any kind of description then yes like we had Lionel Messi Yeah, he was on briefly. Well was like his translator like we've translated something Messi said and

Right right. That's you know I think he got ones and threes, I'm not sure if. Okay, but again, some ones and threes are gonna make the list because they're only eliminating 38 though, so there is somebody who's gonna make the top 100 who got a one as. Like I don't think Charlie Chaplin's gonna make it. We had a guy named Charlie Chaplin on. You know what, I voted him a five.

I don't know about the rest of you. He was great. We also had a guy named Charlie Chaplin. You know what I voted him a five. I don't know about the rest of you He was great. We also had a Greg Cody on and a guy named Greg Yes, we also had a Greg Lobo we also had a snuggler Anyway, well hold on a second. How are you guys revealing this just all on one episode? Are you yes next week's episode? I've told that we should do ten at a time Yes, and we'd out a hundred through 91 that came out yesterday. I've told them we should do ten at a time. Ten a week. Yes, stretch it out. A hundred through 91, you know, that type of thing. That's open to debate.

Okay, that's a big one. We have until Sunday to decide if you want to make this last one episode or ten. That's correct. As with all of the great art made throughout history, there will be much eternal debate about who should have been number one. Confirming. And how high Gary the Bag got up on the list of the guests in the history of the massive and really make it featuring greg cody have any of you watch the uh...

we live with but thank you who was on this week uh... this week we uh... we dive inside uh... there's a there was a bachelor party within my family uh... not to name anyone who might be getting married like my younger son Michael So we talked about the bachelor party. I I have I revealed number 20 in my new top 20 list of all-time Greatest herbs herb of the week herb of the way. So number 20 you can reveal the number 20 was

Yeah, I don't want to her being you know, whoa relax. You gotta get over at the same time. Rosemary. No, it's not Rosemary. Next week's countdown is 100 guests. This week's is the- Yeah, but he only gives us one herb a week. Right.

It was both to stop you and also submit a nominee. 20 favorite herbs? Right. Yeah. Come on, give him number 20. It'll be a nice teaser for next week. No, I don't want to do it. You're only by number 20. They started starting it. They starting it So next week's episode is the 100 best guests and the number 19th herb. Yes. That's correct. Yeah

Just so you know the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody. It's a great show Yeah, by the way second thoughts on this on the on the bug For the audio podcast. I mean first of all, it says oil blades before using I have no oil second Why did you bring this in if we weren't gonna do it? Like what's the point? We're the one who unhoused it from the box You brought it in and you put it in on the desk and I thought we were going to do something. The producer told me to bring the box in. Did I open it?

Did I suggest we do anything with it? I didn't know whether someone would volunteer to touch my head. And quite frankly, now I look at this and the biggest, whatever you call these things, the biggest one is one inch Okay, it's 1 1⁄8 inch 1 quarter 3 eighths 1 half 5 eighths 3 quarters 7 eighths and 1 inch So the biggest is 1 inch so I can't use this well 1 inches is long for the side. Yeah, it is Yeah, you said you're you had a one One doesn't know is not one inch. One is like the shortest setting on that. Oh, okay, so one is the longest?

Yeah. I think the way you do this is you work lowest number to highest number when you're doing it. So like you start shaving at like an eighth of an inch and then you work your way up to one. I totally misread this. What are you, he's putting it up against his face with the audio.

Be careful, you didn't oil that. Yeah, be careful. Have you guys seen the We Beat the Dream Team documentary on Max? I've heard of it, and I've heard good things. Let me just tell you some of the good things, because I'm a little bit stunned that in 2025, we still eat up the Michael Jordan mythology.

So the We Beat the Dream Team documentary reveals a handful of things including Coach K alleging that Chuck Daly purposely threw the scrimmage where the college kids beat the greatest team there's ever been, Magic and Michael. Among the revelations in this is that Michael and Magic were on the bench during this game when it happened. But one of the things that was mentioned that continues to improve the mythology of Michael Jordan, even as LeBron James is still putting up 40 points sometimes as a 40 year old. That breathing.

Sounds like there's an oscillating fan in this. He got winded just giving those fractions. It was just one eighth, seven eighths, six eighths. He got tired getting to about four or fifth eighths. He just got tired. Every time Dan finished a sentence. He's been breathing heavy since then. It was just listing the eighths that got him tired. Do you realize how out of shape you have to be to get winded just listing eight fractions? I'm not winded.

Roy told me to keep the mic close to my mouth, which is what I'm doing. I'm doing a little thing called breathing. It's a big part of life. And so what's the alternative? You want me to hold my breath for the rest of the show? I don't, but when I'm talking about Michael Jordan and suffocating somebody, Alan Houston talked about the next day after they beat Michael Jordan. Jamal Mashburn tells this story. He says Michael Jordan comes out and says he's not going to get his hands over his shoulders today for a shot. Alan Houston is going to

come out here and he's not going to get his hands over his shoulders. And Jamal Mashburn is looking at us, at the camera. He's like, this is the day I questioned whether I could be a pro. Alan Houston never got his hands over his shoulders in the next practice I was watching. And so they continued to create the mythology around Michael Jordan, even while telling you a bunch of college kids beat him. So I don't have to see it anymore. Yeah, spoiler alert. Did I ruin it for everybody? No, I'll get around to it. I just, you know, I still have to watch Conclave.

Well, you you recommended something. I will tell you something I have not done before that arrived the other day at 56 years old. It's not a life or a feeling that I've had in my life at Saturday morning at 7 a.m. My dark princess of a wife decides Nosferatu is what she wants to watch, an artistic masterpiece, like just beautifully romantic and haunting and totally creepy. Did you like it?

Yes, I did. Well, yeah, I liked it, but I would say I like it just because you're being transported to a different, like, just a weird time with how it is that they're doing all darkness. Well, that's how Robert Eggers gets down. In terms of being able to transport you to another world, no one really wraps you in it quite like he does. The romance of it, though, and I don't think, Greg Cody, when's the last time you saw a movie of any kind it's just aggressive 7 a.m. on a Saturday is aggressive to welcome that kind of gold. That means you saw Count Orlok's dick around 7 45.

Yeah. It's too early to see Count Orlok's dick. Have you read anything though about it's a SARS guard that does the role of Orlok and you would never know it from this one's bill watching yeah but the the voice work on that and the the length that he went to to personify evil with his voice was like wasn't was an actor as an artist really trying to get something right in the name of like what I think most people would just dismiss as a vampire movie. What'd you think of the mustache? No facial hair, no facial hair. It kind of boils down to did you like the mustache or not for a lot of folks and most people don't like the mustache but the mustache look in Bram Stoker's Dracula Dracula has a mustache as reference to a couple of times if you want to be a

nobleman from the 1600s any respectable one had a mustache, as referenced to a couple of times. If you want to be a nobleman from the 1600s, any respectable one had a mustache. A lot of people cannot look past this. So did Ronkula. You guys think that, I don't think of Dracula or vampires as having mustaches. Yeah, I don't either. I don't believe anybody does.

If you were a nobleman in the 1600s and you'd been dead for a while, you don't get around to shaving, yeah. Is you had a mustache. It's authentic. That's what Robert Eggers does, man. This is what he does. Although there isn't a body of water between Germany and Transylvania. So for all the authenticity about Bobby Eggs, I mean, that's a really long drawn out way to get to Germany. Pete Have any of you watched horror at seven o'clock

in the morning on a Saturday morning? I think I watched a coffee table at that time. Doesn't fit, it's not a fit. You gotta coordinate the movie style with the time of day. Which is love versus lust. I get enough horror at seven a.m. on Saturday from how hungover I am. That's Looney Tunes time, honestly. Yeah.

None of you are doing that with children? Greg Cody, I wanted to ask you because you're our football expert around here, when the Bengals, a notoriously cheap franchise, historically cheap, a laughing stock NFL cheap franchise before Joe Burrow, that was perfectly happy just making money every season as a mom and pop shop uh... that didn't uh... was reputed in nfl circles is not caring about winning the way the other spenders right want to spend

they are faced and say they're going to sign hendriksen t higgins and jamar chase all of them now that would be signing everybody higgins was hurt this year but that would be signing everybody. Higgins was hurt this year, but that would be signing everybody from a team that wasn't good enough to make the playoffs. And that'd be that the amount of money that it would take to keep all of those players, now that you've had to give Joe Burrow money,

the finances of all of that work how? Because while it's very nice to say you will keep all of the players and you can tag Higgins as well, I don't see how you can have those four players and then have other players when Jamar Chase is going to want 40 million dollars a year and and now you're paying Burrow and Jamar Chase and now you've got to pay all these other guys. Well, you know your defense was already bad last year in a way that it didn't matter how good chase and burrow were They've addressed the defense Al Golden

That's true Al Golden by the way put on a few LB's. Okay. I don't think that's necessary That's so. I don't think he's been at UM. I'm just saying he looks fine. What are you doing? I'm just having we all haven't we all making a comment. It's unnecessary. He's got early on set Paterno He's a public figure. How is this your comment when i ask you for your football expertise al golden is put on a few lbc's and they have my own the nfl did increase its it's spending limit by what twenty two million dollars or some that'll help uh... they have to sign hendrickson

and jamar chase to meet the higgins is is sort of the odd man out here. I would hate to think that because they sign these guys it means they're gonna have to deplete the Rosser elsewhere. But in the AFC when you have Joe Burrow you're a contender. When you have a healthy Joe Burrow. But it's a much tougher conference than the NFC and you know at best the third or fourth team in the conference so it's they much tougher conference than the NFC and and you know at best the third or fourth team in the conference so it's they're in a tough situation but based on their

penurious history I give them credit just for the public intent of resign well you're sort of obligated to right because once you've gotten to the situation where you're expect you have the expectations of being a contender because of who your quarterback is. You have to do the things to keep your quarterback happy. My question to you is, as we talk about this though, given that so many people are salary cap experts now, even though none of us are salary cap experts, even though we're obsessed with all of the money, I'm just asking you this generally,

are there a lot of teams that you know that didn't make the playoffs that you got to pay all four of their guys? That a team that hasn't made the playoffs when what you got from that team last year was the rarest of things. The great quarterback play who doesn't make the playoffs. The healthy quarterback play that is great and also not great enough to make the playoffs because of how they started when you're being fiscally responsible when you have to win in the margins because even if they're advancing twenty million dollars on the salary cap you have to be better at the salary cap than other teams paying the

four guys is what anybody would do what hurts is you have to get rid of somebody in order to have the rest of the team because the thing that's broken about the Bengals from where I'm standing is architecturally, if you get that season healthy from Burrow, you cannot fail to make the playoffs. Like you're broken in a way that doesn't portend well for your future when Burrow was having the all the great games and you were still losing when he put up 30 right and you also can't Shortchange the offensive line so that all of a sudden Joe burrow is at risk it's it's really a no-win situation in that you can't resign you can't sign all four of those guys and Do right by the rest of the roster that's why I don't see how they can sign Higgins to me

Well, that's a but that's it. Don't you just franchise him? Does it... he just gets a tag. Yeah, but it's still tagging him, gives him a high number. You get some value there with a tag, but... And you're just kicking that cank... Burroughs saying the same thing. He's saying there's all sorts of stuff I can do with signing bonuses. There's all sorts of stuff I can do for cap relief. Yeah, that's what Philadelphia's done. They've made an artwork of finagling the system legally to do all that. Patriot said that for a very long time. Where did you get that Al Golden has put on a lot of weight? He looks good. I mean, he honestly looks better than when

he was running around the UM sidelines in a suit. I agree. Okay. Look at him. He doesn't look big there. He looks a little cheeky. Cheeky. He's always had those, like, that rosacea. Yeah, he looks pretty good. You know, some know sometime at the Al golden corral that guy, you know Look, I haven't missed a meal either. I mean aren't you a journalist? How could you get that wrong? How could you only analysis of the Bengals be that and you get it wrong? I've been told by sources Hey friends, it's Jarrah bear here and I'm here to tell you all about Boost Mobile, which is now a legit nationwide 5G network.

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