The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Dan Got Chased by a Bird

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

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Comcast Business is powering the connectivity of the PGA Tour. Powering possibilities. This is the Dan Lebatore Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Now that I think about it, I think I have to concede that it stinks as a superhero catch phrase I happen to have a few questions for you. But it works for a TV detective. Pablo Torre wandering the earth, I happen to have a few questions for you, is something I think now in sports journalism, people don't want to hear if Pablo Torre is sniffing around trying to find out. If you're a superhero, you have the answers.

You always have the answer. You don't have questions, you just have the answer. Well, I think the implication here is that he has the answers, so he's just asking him the questions. You're not asking questions of you just have the answer. Well, I think the implication here is that he has the answers. So he's just asking him the questions. You're not asking questions to things he doesn't know. You're asking questions to things he does know. The best kind of questions.

By the way, you're also missing the word at the end, specifically. Specifically, you specifically. What do you think he wants to ask Bill about? We will find out together. I happen to have a few questions for you though. It does sound like the world's lamest threat, does it not? I happen to have a few questions for you though, does sound like the world's lamest threat, does it not? I happen to have a few questions for you.

You get to the villain, yeah. And Tony is right, that there is an undercurrent on it of I have the answers already, but my happening to have a few questions for you is only because I know the answers. When Tony says those are the best kind of questions, I'd argue the best kind of questions are the ones you don't have the answers to so you could therefore learn.

Tony is saying everyone wants to be New York Knicks fans. I already have the answers. I don't need any of your answers. I've got my alternative facts. Dan, in a court of law, you never ask questions you don't know the answer to. You only ask the questions you know the answer to absolutely. Yeah like when you watch Law and Order and Sam Watterson's character the DA he asked

a question and then the person gives the answer he always looks surprised like well wait but surely when you went into the house you knew no one was gonna be there. Well actually I knew someone. Oh well in that case, that's how you do it. And by the way, you gotta understand the context of this, right? Bill calls Pablo a fake journalist, right? He basically questioned his bona fides as a journalist. So what Pablo's saying is like,

oh you think my bullets don't hurt you? Okay, his bullets are questions by the way, I don't know if you know that. He's like, do you think my, they don't know, what if I point the gun at you? Mr. Simmons, that's what he did right there. Put it on the pole questions come out of that gun at LeBoward show Who's more of a journalist Bill Simmons or Pablo Torre? But Pablo's degrees in sociology, so he's not a journalist Well, I don't think journalism goes by what you went to school for

Would you need a degree to be a journalist? Not anymore. Still got to prove that. I'm not a journalist. I think working for Sports Illustrated is something that would classify you as a journalist if you're writing for Sports Illustrated. I wanna make it clear, I'm Team Pablo, but when I discovered a couple of weeks ago

that he's only written five pieces or whatever in his life, I've always thought Pablo was this prolific writer. It turns out he wrote five pieces in his entire, I've written more than that in a month. They're not though, they're not small pieces, they're five takeouts. They're big articles that are about the process in Philadelphia.

They're magazine pieces that unspool 5,000 and 10,000 words. I've written 10,000 words? What'd you think that's, that's impressive? It's, oh, you wrote 10,000 words! Wait, why am I switching sides now? Oh. Weird. Some would say that's like a English assignment

for sophomores, but that's fine. My kid is in high school and doing that. So you guys think that Bill Simmons is more of a journalist than Paul? No, we're on Paul's. He's written more than Paul. He's written books before, Dan. Try writing a column every week.

I mean, I wrote a book, so. Oh. Oh. Oh. Well, I wrote your book. I think it had 10,000 words. We wrote your book. We, you didn't write your book.

You haven't even read your book. You didn't write your get into it We have a number of things that I want to get to but I did want to ask you a question Stugats because the other day I heard a sound and I was confused by it because the sound made me think of something that I had not thought of in a long time and somebody nearby said, because I just heard music, and I thought it was coming from a place that was playing music,

and somebody said that's an ice cream truck. And I'm like, there can't still be ice cream trucks. Are there still, with the amount of convenience that we have everywhere, I would assume the ice cream truck business is hurting, even though driving through your neighborhood still makes it more convenient on something that can melt than DoorDash or anything else you were ordering.

But would you not assume that the ice cream truck business is a harder way to make a living now than it's ever been? No, I would think it's thriving. In fact, I think ice cream trucks had their best year ever last year. I'll check it out at icecreamtrucks.com, but I'm pretty certain, Dan, they had their best sales year of all time last year.

I think they're picking up steam. I mean... Dan, we watched a report back here from Inside Edition about the state of the ice cream truck in America, and business is not good. Inflation's hitting them hard. The rising rising prices of fuel the rising prices of ice cream the rising prices of sugar all of these staples that are required and then you factor in

that you know kids don't go outside anymore right there they're on their devices they're playing video games they don't come outside we used to play outside that was the whole point ice cream truck. You're playing outside and then you hear that sound I think that's over. I don't think that's happening in neighborhoods. Well, there's also a territory war amongst ice cream truck. Yeah It's a very serious. You can't just drive around with an ice cream truck Willy-nilly you have to kind of get in and talk to the right people and let the heads of the ice cream Underworld know that you're now in the ice cream business and should they accept you then, okay, but should they not? Don't let them catch you on those streets.

Very territorial, very territorial. Dan, in 2023, the global ice cream truck market was valued at $2.27 billion. It goes up about 3% every year. It should be valued at over $300 million by the year 2030. Ice cream trucks doing just fine, man. All right. Well, you just gave us a bunch of different numbers and then made it $300 million, which was a lot less. You weren't listening to any of the numbers you were saying. By 2030, by the year 2030, it will be valued at $300 million.

But you just said it was more than that. But it was two something billion a couple years ago. No, I said it was $ point two seven billion two years ago It grows at a rate of three point one seven percent and then it'll grow to three hundred thousand and thirty know your ice cream Yeah, he still doesn't understand what he's doing with the math. He's grow. It's growing in a negative rate What was your guys go to I went screwball? The little ball screwball or just one screwball the one The little like rock hard bubble gum at the bottom of it. Strawberry shortcake. Oh yeah.

Choco taco is good. Toasted almond. Classic ice cream sandwich. Flintstone push pop. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Which is the best of the ice cream truck flavors? Let's list this. Strawberry shortcake, the pushup.

The. Screwball. Choco taco. The toasted almond The chocolate egg Claire if you go snow cone your monster That would be terrible to choose the snow cone Can I please get some kind of remedial understanding of the math stugots just did where something well? something increased by 2030 from the number 2 billion to 300 million

How is that an increase? The last ice cream music song that Chris has played was the Camp Town Ladies. This sounds like a video game more than a, like this, I would not buy anything from this ice cream truck. This is the cheap ice cream truck guy who's down on his luck.

Oh, you got that classy ice cream truck music? I mean, geez. Definitely not the one that's playing the Camp Town Ladies. Sing that song, do da, do da. truck guy who's down on his luck. Oh, you got that classy ice cream truck music? I mean, geez. Definitely not the one that's playing the camped out ladies. Sing that song. Do da, do da. I'm not getting ice cream in that one. If you're not playing this song, I'm not getting ice cream.

This is the song. The standard song, yeah. And then, and then, and then. You mentioned video games and kids being inside. Tony, I don't know that anyone around here has made a worse appraisal about what their life is going to be than you before having a baby announcing to everyone here that you couldn't wait

to get so much time to now play video games now that you have a baby that will be in the house. You thought you were going to really play a lot of video games, and then I heard people making fun of you here saying Tony hasn't been logged on anywhere in a month. That no one knows that Tony has disappeared from the virtual reality world that is video games

because fatherhood has swept him up into adulthood and he's no longer allowed to be a selfish child. So I would play a lot of video games, right? My wife was working, she's now home 24 seven and when your wife's home 24 seven, you don't really have enough time to go out and play video games because she's always watching what you're doing to make sure that you're doing

what you're supposed to be doing and helping the baby, doing the dishes, all that stuff. So I would play video games and then I told the boys here, don't worry, when the baby's little, she's gonna be sleeping and guess what dad gets to do while the baby's sleeping? Play a little video games and then I told the boys here don't worry when the baby's little she's gonna be sleeping and guess what? Dad gets to do while the baby's sleeping play a little video games, and we laughed at you what I didn't realize Is that I have to watch said baby while she sleeps as a nervous father for the first month and make sure that everything Is good even though we have the little outlets telling your temperature

It's telling this and that I need to have eyes on just to make sure that everything's good so Playtime decreased I played once on a Saturday morning when she slept in a little bit But yeah, I haven't logged in in about two months, but There's still people asking. Hey, are you playing? Are you your LSU Tigers are doing well like what's the deal and I didn't respond It's been a tough. It's been a tough five months down. I don't know if you can tell I just don't What did you think fatherhood was going to be? Easy. Like what?

I rarely hear the dad right before, he's like, I'm gonna have a lot of free time coming up. Again, I thought I was gonna be able to manage said free time around baby sleeping. That did not happen, but as a man of understanding, hey, I can understand when I'm wrong, and when I should have listened to Billy and others that had kid And said you're not gonna have that kind of time. I should have listened

I didn't but you know what it's a learning process Dan. That's all it is Congratulations on learning that your time is no longer your own by the way I funny enough it wasn't my own because I was you know She wakes up around 445 5 o'clock in the morning. She gets fed. She had a mistake on the bed today So at 445 the baby so yeah came out of the diaper So guess who had to clean everything dad had to take all the sheets off the covers I had to spray the put on the diaper who put on the diaper you or your wife Before she went to bed. I think it was her so yeah, that's put down the back pocket

The diaper over like cleaning up messes I'm always always team do the diaper over like cleaning up messes I had to clean up the mess because she was breastfeeding so I was like oh you breastfeed I'll clean up the mess so I had to get on my hands and knees Dan and scrape the stuff off the sheets Yeah with this little spray and make sure that yeah, there's a mess on the bed When the mess was on the bed on the sheets, I don't have like a protector Well the sheet on the sheet the sheet now you take the sheet off you put the sheet to wash I know but I had to spray with a special cleaner. You're sleeping on a caca sheet now?

No. The first 18 months, they're not children, they're screaming shit monsters. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. You know you're not alone though, Tony. I heard Shohei recently had a newborn and the other day he was caught falling asleep

during a game. Can you relate to this, Tony? Oh wow. He's like asleep and then you can see he does the thing of like whoa, I gotta wake up. Is that fatherhood or baseball? It was a blowout. They were losing, they were beating the Yankees 10 to one

and clearly looking like he's sleeping and then huh. Oh, sorry. You gotta get it where you can, right? Those little two seconds of like, I'm gonna close my eyes. They mean everything. But it feels like 30 minutes, it's called the cat nap. What's he doing with his nose on the other dugout?

He's like touching, he knows, he right there. No one's watching him. I swear to God That's my dad on the couch and then like dad Just go to bed like no, I'm watching this I'm watching this He does the same move the hard blink and look around and like and then swearing he's still awake I do I got maybe I'm getting old last night My wife is just like you're snoring and I'm like, I'm not even as I, God, maybe I'm getting old. Last night, my wife is just like, you're snoring. And I'm like, I'm not even asleep. I don't know that I'm asleep and I'm on the couch.

Because once you hit the recline, once you hit the recline around 10 p.m., I don't realize it. And she's like, I'm like, what did it sound like? I'm like, what did it sound like? She's like, I'm like, no, I was not just making that noise. I would've heard it. That is also me. I will tell you that what I do more, I'm like no I was not just making that word it I mean that is also me I will tell you that what I do more

I think than any other action in the world is deny that I was sleeping while emerging from snoring When I'm on the couch and we're watching something and then it's it's you know, it's bad when you're like You up you're like I am so tired that I am waking myself up with my own snore, startling myself, and then immediately lapsing into lying. Who was that? I wish my dad woke up from snoring. That dude just snores, like it's so loud.

How is he not awake? Forget about the sound. The feeling in the back of his stomach, it's like a chainsaw. I wanted to ask the group here if you had the same reaction that I did, which I thought was funny to have this reaction, where I see the report Yanis

Having a mutual interest with the Toronto Raptors and I'm like, that's not real Mm-hmm That's not the Raptors and not a possibility for any free agent under any circumstances Who has every option the choice is not gonna be to be to leave America However at the moment the choice might be Canada, given what's happening in America, because I heard an awful lot of threats that people were going to move to Canada. If there was a new presidency, I have not seen yet a lot of moving to Canada, though I have seen a lot of moving to Britain. I still don't

I can't get my head around the Toronto Raptors are going to get the coveted free agent. I still don't, I can't get my head around the Toronto Raptors are going to get the coveted free agent. I don't believe that story. Well you believe this part of it that Toronto has interest. It's Yanis' interest that you have a hard time believing. That is correct. I do not deny or am in no way skeptical that Toronto thinks there's a chance. Why are you treating Toronto like it's Edmonton? Toronto's like the biggest city in Canada. Why would he go there though?

The reason I'm doing that is because no free agent who has a lot of options ever chooses Toronto. First of all, he's not a free agent. I hate to be Mr. Well, actually, it would be a trade. Number one. Number two, and we talk about this on today's episode of Oddball, there is a connection between Yannis and Masai

Ujiri, the president of the Raptors. There's actually a video from the 2013 draft of Masai Ujiri in the war room trying to trade up to get to a pick where he can get Yannis. And finally, I think he gets up to like maybe 18 or whatever, but Yannis goes at 15 to the bucks. So there's that connection. He knows he's known him and wanted him for a long time. Obviously Masai Yajiri is of Nigerian descent. Yannis is of Nigerian descent. There's that connection there.

But then there's the other thing which is he assisted in Yannis getting his visa to come to the United States originally. So there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of background. Like we know each other thing And if you're Yanis your big thing is I want to go somewhere where I know they know what they're doing Well, Masayi's jury is a guy who's got a great reputation in the league as a front office They were 30 and 52 last year exactly because they need Yanis

I want to for a second though explore the correction that Amin made that is the correct for a second though explore the correction that Amin made that is the correct correction when he says Yanis isn't a free agent he is someone who would be requesting a trade the reason I make them the same thing is just because I think of free agency as options and I think of Yanis as just options he can choose anything he wants why would Toronto be the choice he He's not gonna be traded someplace he doesn't want. And people with options, go ahead and give them to me. Kawhi got traded there on a rental. Give me all of the free agents or coveted option people

who have ended up choosing Toronto. I think that you're making my argument, which is it's mutual interest. Yannis would want that as an option. It's not, guess what, Giannis, you don't wanna be here? Take your ass to Canada! That's not what's happening here. It's Giannis being like, you know what,

I have a connection with the guy that runs the team. I think I kinda wanna go there. Would you be kind enough to answer my question though? The greatest free agent, the Toronto Raptors, or comparable person with options that the Raptors have ever gotten when they get into the bidding against American teams is?

Quai Leonard. No, no, but trade. That was a one year rental. It was just- I mean, so this is a two year rental. I don't know what you're doing, I'm sorry. Like, he's under contract, he's not under contract for five years.

He's got options, he can go wherever he wants, he wants to get traded, and this is a place that is a trade destination. You're right and free agents don't go to Canada historically, but players have been traded there and that happens. The biggest free agent contract they've ever given out, 2009 Hito Turkalu, five year, 53 million. It was a sign in trade, but he signed with that. He was coming off an NBA Finals appearance. Remember he hit the game winner against the Cavs. Ron McGill is gonna join us right now.

I will tell you one of the most shocking takes that we've ever had around here that flew under the radar. As soon as the Orlando Magic got Hedo Turkalu, Stugats proclaimed that the best starting lineup in the history of basketball. It was some starting five, man. I mean, go look it up. He wasn't lying.

Jimmie Nelson at the one. Was it Richard Lewis on that team? Richard Lewis. Oh, that was five, man. I mean, go look it up. He wasn't lying. Jimmie Nelson, the one. Was it Richard Lewis on that team? Yeah. Oh, that was a good team. Dwight Howard. Yep. Hedo. Hedo was like a point forward.

That was excellent, the three of them. Who was the fifth? Courtney Lee? No, there was someone else. It wasn't Courtney Lee as a two guard? No, because I would never say that's the best starting five in baseball. I feel like it was Courtney Lee.

I think you guys need to listen to what was just said. Those four are strong. I mean, it's not the best starting lineup in the history of the sport. At the time it had a chance in my defense. It did not have a chance. It echoes internally because it's such a bad take. It was JJ Reddick. It was JJ.

Yeah. You want to list that again as the best starting five ever? Go ahead and list the whole, Jameer Nilsson. Jameer at the one. Jameer, a great leader by the way. Yeah. Great leader. JJ at the two, one when the best shooters in the game, right? Three is he do turk who point forward control in a game for was Rashad Lewis stretch for is before that was a thing

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Chris Cody has nominated the tomato tomato as the most versatile of all the foods. Yeah, tomato, try to beat me. It can be a drink, it can be a soup, it can be on a sandwich, it can be a condiment if you make ketchup with it. I mean, the tomato's doing a lot. Ron McGill joins us now.

Ron, do you have a more versatile food? And we haven't seen you in a while. You've been traveling, yes? Do you have a more versatile food than the tomato, sir? No, I'm Chris on that. Tomato, I'm a ketchup guy. You know, I have ketchup with everything, I have tomatoes and everything.

I think tomatoes is a pretty versatile food, followed probably by the grape. Potatoes are pretty versatile. Yeah, potatoes are pretty versatile, it's true. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show, more versatile food, the tomato or the potato? I can't make a morning cocktail out of a potato. It's a little hard, yes, to make an excellent drink out of the potato. can't I can't make a morning cocktail out of a little hard

Yes to make an excellent drink out of the potato or actually there's a potato soup potatoes made of vodka. Oh That's true Potato is made of vodka put that on the pole juju at limit Potato made out of vodka Ron. Where have you been traveling? One of the places was the Galapagos, right? It's June I just got back from the Galapagos and in two weeks I leave for Australia for a few weeks So that's gonna be a pretty good trip. It's doing a documentary out there with channel 10. So'll be a lot of fun. I want to play for you here some owls showing affection to each other I'd like for you to give us some play-by-play here and tell us which of the animals is most affectionate

They seem to be kissing here. It's like an aggressive make out session. I'd say well, they're they're more grooming each other They're they are definitely bonding, but it's not like you would think a make-out session. No, that's not really what it is. But it is bonding and grooming. And, you know, owls are monogamous birds. They kind of mate with one mate for the breeding season. So they're pretty admirable birds, but they're not the most intelligent of the birds.

I think we've discussed that before. They're probably one of the least intelligent of the birds because of the massive size of their eyes. It takes up so much space in their skull, there's not a whole lot of room left for the brain. Owls gotta figure it out, huh? Every mating season, different mate? Well, not necessarily, they might come back

with the same mate, there are some owls that are monogamous, you know, throughout their lives, but definitely during the breeding season, they're not promiscuous, so to speak. Why would you say different mate if he just said monogamous? I thought I heard him say, like like a minute earlier that every mating season they tomato tomato. They get a new breeding season.

They may get a new mate during a breeding season, but generally speaking, a lot of these birds of prey tend to be monogamous throughout their lives. So it's a choice. It's kind of like humans. Is there a reason for that, Ron? What they concluded is that it's beneficial for them. They get to understand each other's habits. They are being proven successful breeders, and that loyalty to each other

helps for more successful reproduction. Ron, we were gonna have you on after the Kentucky Derby and we had lots of horse questions. One of the first ones was how prevalent is incest in the horse racing community? Because you hear like, oh, this person, or this horse, I guess, is, you know, along the lineage of Secretariat.

And then this past year in the Kentucky Derby, I believe everyone participating was, you know, from the Secretariat lineage. So if you have so many people who are connected to Secretariat, how prevalent, I guess, is incest in or, you know, incestual behaviors in the horse racing community? And are there defects to horse incest in or, you know, incestual behaviors in the horse racing community and are there defects to horse incest?

Wow. Okay, first of all, I think you're using the word incest really incorrectly. It's inbreeding. Inbreeding. Right, they're not having these horses actually breed each other, but the inbreeding is they're using the sperm

from relatives of Secretariat, but my understanding is that it's really well down the line, way out on the tree there, way out on the branch. It's not like brother, sister, mother, son, or that kind of a close relationship. It's like 14th and 15th cousins, but they're trying to get the highlight of that bloodline that made Secretariat so great,

increase the value of that. That's a scam, right? Like that's a scam. The 16th cousin of Secretariat, what they have in their blood doesn't make them any better than another horse. I'm not a horse breeder, so to speak, but it tends to add credibility

when they're selling the sperm for hundreds of thousands of dollars. When they can give that sperm credibility because of what it's distantly related to, brings more money. At the end of the day, guys, it's all about money. How do they confirm that this is, oh yeah, he's on 16 cousins with the secretary, believe me.

Oh, well, they are very, very careful about documenting bloodlines of horses. All day down the pedigree, it's even with dogs. You'll find dogs. Oh, this dog is a, you know, fourth cousin of the grand champion of this particular breed. So there's a lot to, you know, a sign to that credibility and value in being associated with a champion.

Are there defects, though, in inbreeding in the animal community? Yes, absolutely. There are. I mean, you remember a long time ago, white tigers were a big thing in zoos. Oh, everybody wanted to see a white tiger. Well, they realized they were breeding brothers to sisters, mothers to sons, just to get white tigers because it brought people in, it was a lot of money.

And finally they realized, listen, we can't do that. We're getting tigers with crossed eyes. We're getting them with all kinds of, you know, different types of defects going on. And that's why you don't see what i was in the morning can you tell us what the most affectionate animal is most affectionate animal who because you're saying those alice that was not necessarily affection that

wasn't necessarily mating that wasn't uh... uh... it's bonding it's bonding is it's it's it's it's solidifying the bond between the two of them and i guess you could associate that as courtship in a way, but the affection is, I don't know. Has to be a dog, right? Listen, a dog is incredibly affection. Cats can be affectionate too, though, they tend to be a little bit more independent,

but dogs, my gosh. I meant with each other though. Yeah, I think dogs can be very expressive, emotional with each other. You know, when they greet each other as a social animal, as a pack animal, you see them, you know, licking and jumping on each other and vocalizing and tails wagging. That's all kind of a form of affection between the dogs as they kind of, you know, cement their bond with each other again. It's all about that creating that bond, that relationship, because animals like that realize that they're stronger

in groups than they are individually. It seems like dolphins are affectionate towards each other, right? Dolphins are one of those animals that has been proven that they have sex strictly for fun. I mean, they have same sex activity all the time, which of course is not gonna result in reproduction, but it demonstrates the fact that they enjoy the pleasure of each other's company in a

variety of ways so yes they can be very quote-unquote affection. They've been known to cross the line from time to time as well. They're line steppers. Dolphins. Oh yeah, dolphins. I mean there's documentation on YouTube for instance of a dolphin trying to get a woman in a bikini sitting on a dock you know and this dolphin got very amorous with her to the point it was dangerous. You know, I remember there was a trainer working with a dolphin that I knew

that was able to collect the sperm from the dolphin just by going out in her bathing suit, the dolphin would come and immediately present himself. And- Oh. Oh yeah, no, and ejaculate so she could collect it and they'd use that sperm for artificial insemination. I mean, she just had a bee there in her bathing suit.

I know this is kind of crossed the line, but I'm just telling you facts. I'm not telling you made up stories. I just love the idea of the dolphin going back to his buddies like, watch this. Every time I come out, she can't get enough of this. Boys, she's back. Ron, would it be more humane instead of putting down a horse

when they break their leg to give it a big wheel? No, it's not feasible because of the behavior of a horse and because of the anatomy, the structure of a horse. Sustaining the weight, you couldn't put it out without putting so much stress on other muscles. It would just, it's a domino effect that the horse would just catastrophically collapse. Well, what if it had two missing legs, so it had two wheels, so it was more like a chariot.

Like you see sometimes with little doggies how the doggies are on like they have wheelchairs. If you had two wheels for a horse. Dogs and horses are tremendously different animals. Oh, the wheels would be tremendously different too. They'd be round, but they'd be different size, different strength, titanium maybe. It's the weight, it's the behavior. They'd be stronger wheels. I'm not, Ron, I'm not telling you

we're gonna put in a dog wheelchair. That's silly, that would break the dog wheelchair. This is gonna be a wheelchair built for a horse. This is an intelligence issue though, right? Like the dog is smart enough to kind of realize that a horse isn't. That probably has something to do with it, but at the end of the day,

it's just the size and the anatomy of a horse. And how a horse. It's a big wheels, Ron. What about prosthetics? Like when we give to veterans and they lose their legs. Yeah, thank you for your service they're not able to so they're not able to be trained to use the prosthetic in a way without sacrificing other parts of the limb and has it been tried so we can't give them like an Oscar Pistorius like

blade oh yeah blade running horses would be sick Ron I'll suggest it. To who? Who are you gonna suggest it to? You were recently- Well, whatever horse person has a horse that breaks a leg or whatever, keep going veterinarian, I come across them. I think there was some insincerity. I sense some insincerity.

You're not gonna suggest that to anyone. Ron was recently recognized by the Miami-Dade County Commission Chambers for 45 years of continuous service at Cranon Park Zoo, Miami Metro Zoo, and Zoo Miami. I believe that in those 45 years, you have never met anyone that you will share this suggestion with. No one living, no one dead, you will not do it to a tombstone. You will never, you will never make that suggestion to anybody. You just wanted Billy to stop talking. You just wanted Billy to stop talking. Good point.

Okay, thank you. It is bird breeding season. Do you have any tips for us if you find a baby bird on the ground? My wife was late to our first date because she found a baby bird on the ground and she ended up taking it in to a bird rescue plate.

Classic dog ate my homework situation. Yeah, listen, baby birds, if you find a baby bird that's fallen out of a nest, you see the nest, you can pick that baby bird up and put it back in the nest. That whole thing, oh, if you touch the bird, the mother's gonna reject it and never, that's a myth, that's an absolute myth.

Now you have to be able to decipher whether it's a bird that has fallen out of a nest or it's a bird that has fledged. You know, baby birds, once they get some feathering and they start exercising their wings, they'll fledge and they'll move. They do what we call branching. They go out on a branch and sometimes they'll end up on the ground, but the parents are still taking care of them.

Do not take that bird away. Do not take that bird to a rehab or unless it's obviously injured because the parents are still taking care of it. Again, if it's a bird that's fallen out and it's obviously doesn't, hasn't developed any feathering, anything like that, it's fallen out prematurely, you can pick that bird up and put it back in the nest. The parents will come and care for it. Please understand that.

Also during this bird breeding season, I get calls almost every day now of people saying, this bird's dive bombing me, it's attacking me, I can't get into my house. Listen, if they built a bird nest next to the entry door to your house, that's unfortunate because they think every time you're going into your house, you're gonna be threatening their nest

and they will dive by me. Mockingbirds are notorious for this. They will come down, well, they'll draw blood, they'll peck you and they'll draw blood from your head. So please keep in mind that this is breeding season. Birds can get aggressive as they're protecting the nesting area. It's not that they're being nasty or just mean,

they're being protective of their nest. So you might not see where the nest is, but I guarantee you if they're dive bombing you, when you go into your house, the nest is very cool. Like I'm just gonna sit there and let that thing peck my head. I'm bringing a tennis racket like a teapot. I'm gonna grab that thing

and then just chuck it up against the wall. This is just like your analogy of, you know, doing a giraffe with a steak knife. Yeah, that bird will hit you in the head before you even know it's coming. I'll f*** that bird up. Whoa. Wow.

That's unnecessary. But Ron, you're telling me, I give Chris Cody a tennis racket and say, all right, walk into your house and the birds are trying to dive bomb. You're telling me he's not knocking that thing out the park? I got a mean backhand. He could do that and that would be very, very cruel

because what you're doing. They're in his house. They're trying to attack him. He was mine in his business. How much they put down on the house. Hmm. Bird. Do you understand that the bird is simply trying

to protect its nest? So is Chris. What am I trying to do? A couple of weeks maybe, maybe two or three weeks, you could give it the grace and say, I understand, okay, okay, and protect yourself, put a hat on or something, get in the house quickly. Instead of taking a tennis racket and bashing the bird and then in fact creating orphans in a nest that are gonna die a slow miserable

Because you decided to hit a bird with a tennis. Let's remember this thing bombed me. Yeah, okay I didn't start it like I didn't bomb the bird like Pearl Harbor. We didn't start it, but we ended it Weird I had this happen to me the other day at the park my hit with a tennis racket My dog my dog is perpetually being attacked by this one bird, but he doesn't know what's happening because it comes and tries to bite its ass, and then he turns around and there's nothing there. And it happened the other day where I was nearby.

It wasn't even in the park, and it started attacking both me and the dog, and my dog is running around. A picture of the dog looking at you trying to bite my ass. Yes, yes, yes. It's not me. My dog was was confused what's behind me that keeps pecking at my ass and then it would fly away and it would get too close to me. I gotta get my wife to send it because you will hear me say, ah! That's a normal reaction.

You will hear me be like, ah! That would be cold. That would go viral. That's cold. All right, I gotta find this. I gotta ask Valerie to send it by the end of the segment. In the interim, can you just look at this from the sea? You often tell us that the sea is less explored than space. What the hell is this thing from the sea? Do you know what this is?

Wow. He says, I don't know what it is, but it's just, you know, one of the unknown things. It's called a feather star, but I don't know what it is. Is that that my that's a fish? That's a what is that? No, it's an invertebrate. Obviously, it's a feather star So it's probably related to the starfish and it's just an invertebrate But I mean, you know when you think of the ocean you look at some of the stuff that's found You know two three thousand feet underneath the ocean man This stuff looks like some of your worst nightmares

that you see out of some Star Trek thing. I mean, it's unbelievable the things that we don't see that exist that are really real. I mean, you don't have to do any AI or any of that stuff. Just look at the bottom of the ocean to have your mind blown. Let's play for Ron this dog walker. I've never seen this.

This is wild. This many dogs for a dog walker. I think this is too many I think he's overworked I think that's can't be safe in this car that's close to 25 dogs that are going into the car Look how look how organized they are and how well behaved they're the guys doing something, right? The guy is obviously earning his money. You don't have any dogs running away or barking or jumping up and down They're all listen listen to this guy this They're piling for the audio audience.

They're piling into an SUV that is not a large SUV. SUV is generous. It's just. It's a Honda element. Oh, he left behind the Queen Elizabeth dog. I need to see the video of what that car looks like with all those dogs in there. I mean, I think another one, another one comes out.

That's a straight from somebody else's dog. That's some other dog. Hey, where's the party at? I'm impressed because all of those dogs were relaxed. They were calm. They seemed to be very obedient and systematically getting in that vehicle without any type of objection.

The guy's doing something right. He's earning his money and he's making a lot of it because dog walkers get paid per dog and he's got a good check coming in on that one. Put it on the poll at LeBataard Show. Have you ever looked at the dog walker and said that person has a good check coming in at Lebatard Show? Oh, Chris Cody apparently has found

that he is sending the video right now to Lewis to see. All right, let's play this video as the close to the segment here. Send it to Lewis now. Evidently, I'm judging from Chris's jolly Santa. It's a little bit of a slow build. There's like 10 seconds and then chaos. Can you recreate for us, before we play the video, the reaction you have when the bird came after you? judging from Chris's jolly Santa. It's a little bit of a slow build, there's like 10 seconds and then chaos.

Can you recreate for us before we play the video, the reaction you had when the bird came after you? Because I think that's the normal reaction. I will show, this was a video that I was sending Valerie and I just saw Chris Cody and I recognized from his chortling jolly Santa laughter that he had finally received the video from my wife and probably heard whatever it is the sound was that I made when this bird had in its sights

me and the dog retreating. The dog is dumb and confused. The dog doesn't understand what's attacking its ass. The bird's facing me. I am, I'm going to say about 250 times the size of the bird. The bird is not afraid facing me. I am, I'm going to say, about 250 times the size of the bird. The bird is not afraid of me. I am clearly and obviously afraid of the bird. It is a small bird, it's not a large bird.

We have a lot of birds around here. But it's flapping its wings, I mean. I know, but I am telling you, the balcony on my apartment, I did not know before the balcony on my apartment that the crow Will be a carnivore that will eat other birds because it leaves bird parts on my balcony dan I was at the metro rail station run. I wanted to ask you about this. There was a a a A nest up up there with one of those fledgling birds and the crow went and got it out of the nest

Brought it down started pecking it It basically bled out and I was just sitting there watching from like six feet away and Ron I couldn't do anything. I couldn't mess I couldn't mess with the crow. The crow is a thug That's it Their crows are thugs, but they're also one of the smartest birds in the world As a matter of fact, they are the smartest bird in the world Really put it on the pole at LeBataard show is the crow. Did you know that the shocker? Did you know that that whole family the crows Did you know? Crow, crows, and ravens, that whole family,

the crows and ravens are the smartest birds in the world. Did you know the crow slash raven was the smartest bird in the world? Only took a couple bites too, left him there to die. Okay, let's unveil this video here. I'm embarrassed. This was just something I was sending my wife from the park. I don't know exactly how embarrassing this is.

I remember it as embarrassing. Ha ha ha. Valerie, this bird is pissed off at me. It's a mockingbird. And the girl keeps swooping in, protecting the park. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

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