The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Dan Leads The Matt Gaetz Fan Club

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Amin's triad of Mike Tyson stories continue as we break down whether or not Tyson stands a chance against Jake Paul. Then, MSNBC's Pablo Torre is here to make his case as the liberal Joe Rogan by disc...ussing Matt Gaetz's potential appointment as Attorney General, why we are alien agnostic, his credentials as a boxing writer, Elon Musk, and why Millennials are best at sorting through misinformation. He also shares a touching story from his latest Pablo Torre Finds Out episode on a Fantasy Football league for Death Row inmates that Dan and Mike criticize for its production. Plus, do Dan and Pablo kind of hate each other? FIND OUT. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 No purchase necessary. 21 plus ends November 15th, 2024. See rules at website for participating area and other important details sponsored by Diageo Americas Inc. New York, New York. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. So you're of the belief, Amin, that a 58-year-old Mike Tyson is just going to get tired prowling a ring because I do think that the people listening to this have very little understanding of what two minutes of cardio in boxing actually is.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I don't know that a lot of people, when you combine the fear with what it is that you're physically doing, and the fear the hour before you walk into the ring of oh my god, I'm now in the middle of a whole bunch of people, and I have the potential to look like Spoh at the end of a game when somebody hits me. If he's looked like Spoh,
Starting point is 00:01:41 then that must have been the biggest win of the night. To walk out of that looking like Spoh, that that must have been the biggest like win of the night. To walk out of that looking like Spoh, that's not the fear. The fear is I'm going to get pulverized because I guarantee you, I don't care how much shape he's in and how much younger, he's never been hit by anything as hard as Mike Tyson. That's what it comes down to. Yes, you're right. If he runs around the ring and extends this and makes it into a marathon out of sprint He said he greatly improves his chances even in Mike Tyson's prime We knew longer fight is worse for Mike, but it all comes down to one thing Can you eat that punch and I don't know if he's ever been hit as hard as he's gonna get hit by Mike
Starting point is 00:02:17 Is there any scenario where this turns out to be like them just playing patty cake for a payday for Mike Tyson? Well, we come here Monday and we're like, I can't believe we all fell for this. That was a joke. You'll know right away because if Tyson doesn't charge him, you'll know right away. The way Tyson fights is always straight ahead. If Tyson wants to prowl the ring with him, you will know right away because Tyson was straight ahead as a fighter. The reason he became the most feared isn't because he just knocked everyone out.
Starting point is 00:02:43 It's because you didn't know how to hit him It was straight at you and he didn't back down no matter your size advantages He was always man Go look at what Frank Bruno looked like in his prime going to the ring to fight Mike Tyson crossing himself because he was so afraid If Jake Paul isn't afraid he ought to be because of what Amin is talking about Paul isn't afraid, he ought to be because of what Amin is talking about. Even at 58, no one would want to be hit by this human being.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Dan, we're efforting this right now. I just sent it to the video guys, but Roy Jones Jr. was on all the smoke, and he talked about that fight that he had against Mike, which was an exhibition, it wasn't real. And you've talked to Roy Jones, you know Roy Jones. He's one of the proudest human beings ever, right? For frame of reference for the younger listeners,
Starting point is 00:03:30 he once in the middle of a fight broke his hand, so then he beat the guy up with his other hand, and then later on made a song about it. He said, y'all must have forgot when I broke- One of the greatest fighters ever, one of the toughest fighters ever. One of the toughest fighters ever. To listen to him on all the smoke,
Starting point is 00:03:47 talk about Mike Tyson, fighting Mike Tyson, the amount of, whether you wanna call it fear or deference, I've never heard Roy Jones be that vulnerable, like he was a regular dude, Mike. Dan, oh, I called you Mike. That's okay, no. What Amin is talking about though is what I see happening around this fight everywhere which is people my age and a
Starting point is 00:04:10 means age are nostalgic for remembering something that was this feared because it doesn't exist now you know there even the MMA guys that crawl around on the floor like it's not when it's wrestling it's not quite what and gone who was in that sport where it's someone who's physically stronger than everyone else and that the people listening this are going to also remember and would fight you in the street if you were mitch blood green outside in harlem at four a m outside a haberdashery like if you want to one of the greatest stories of all time but what do it like as heavyweight champion
Starting point is 00:04:44 would fight you in the street outside of a haberdashery because and Mitch Blood Green you can look him up to not a small human being not a human being to be trifled with and left him you know really bloody the legend of Mike Tyson is 40 years in the making Dan fat Joe tells what told one of the greatest stories I've ever heard where he said him and Big Pun were at this club called The Tunnel, which was a very infamous, very rough crowd, rowdy crowd, and the bouncers were the baddest human beings ever.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And so there was a misunderstanding, the bouncers started getting physical with Fat Joe and Big Pun. Big Pun says, F that, I'm gonna F all of y'all up. There's like 25 of them and just two of Joe and Pun. And Joe's like, as Joe tells the story, he's like, there's no chance we're gonna win this. But like, I can't abandon my guy,
Starting point is 00:05:33 but it's like, do we have to do this? And so as it's clear that an ass whooping is about to happen right outside of the tunnel, they hear from the background, hey Joe, hey Pun, I got y'all, And Mike Tyson comes out, he kicks off his Gucci loafers and starts chasing the bouncers barefoot. And Joe says at one point,
Starting point is 00:05:54 Mike is playing that cat and mouse game around a car with a bouncer and a bouncer's like, Joe, please tell him, I'm sorry, I won't. It's this six, five, 280 pound dude begging for his life because a rabid Mike Tyson is after him. I think that was soon after Tyson had come out of prison. I think it was, or right before he was supposed to go in.
Starting point is 00:06:15 This is late 90s because this is after like, Big Pun has become. Does anyone care about the legend of this? Because half of the people watching this are going to be watching because of Jake Paul, correct? Like this is what this audience is is half is gonna be get into the tent because you're like me and a mean and being like because I didn't watch the Roy Jones Jr. I thought that was gonna make me sad. This one I find myself interested in it even though I
Starting point is 00:06:40 don't think the merits of it as a boxing match are art in any way. So you're watching it? Yes. I can already see the merits of it as a boxing match are art in any way. So you're watching it? Yes, I'm interested. Because I can already see the awful announcing headline that makes it seem like you're speaking from on high. Because you said some things that kind of dismiss this for a circus, but you're right there. You're eating at the truck. No, I want to mock it and enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I don't want to celebrate it as boxing. I don't mind it as an event that feels like America's going to gather around the television on something, because I think it's going to do monster numbers. Like, I don't think it's going to fail. Even if it fails as an entertainment spectacle, I don't think it's going to fail in terms of drawing viewers, which is what boxing has now become like this.
Starting point is 00:07:23 To me, obviously, it saddens me to see a sport that i really cherished not be able to produce an event like this when heavyweight nights in america used to be the biggest thing in sports when there was a championship fight to see it distorted to this obviously disappoints me but not enough to keep me away from the circus tent i'm a little worried about my tyson's health honestly in the fight but not enough to keep me away from the circus tent. I'm a little worried about Mike Tyson's health, honestly, in the fight. I tuned in and I watched Logan Paul box Floyd Mayweather.
Starting point is 00:07:50 It was an underwhelming spectacle, but it was a spectacle. I like the circus. Although I was born in a box, boxing has never really been for me. Get it? He's up. That was good. No!
Starting point is 00:08:07 Oh man, I am with Jer Bear on this, where I wasn't born in the golden era of boxing, and so I think the younger people that like boxing are the ones that are there for the Paul brothers, and I'm not really into that either, so this is sort of, I will be watching Houston versus Arizona tomorrow night. This is the thing.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Big one for the Wildc night. This is the thing. Big one for the Wildcats. This is the thing. These are two people. You've got a convicted rapist who is in the ring after serving time and also in the details of this man's life, lest you wonder why it is he was so feared, went to prison and was grateful because it slowed down his life and he wasn't scared of anyone
Starting point is 00:08:45 there and he could just live a more disciplined life that felt safer to him in prison than what was happening outdoors being the famous heavyweight champion of the world because he couldn't handle all of that. Was very comfortable in prison. Yeah, you could say that. The legend has it, he's the only person who checked into prison and wasn't like Freaking out on their first night. I mean he kind of made himself home. They're like, oh shit. It's a fairly shock You're going to spend the next X amount of years
Starting point is 00:09:18 Sequestered from society you're gonna be on a strict regiment and you're gonna eat this crap that we serve you and you're not gonna have any freedoms. And Mike is like, cool. Like that in of itself is terrifying enough. But this is Roy Jones Jr., Dan, talking to the All the Small Guys about his fight with Mike Tyson. I was worried.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I was too. I was too. Listen, y'all can't be out there trying to kill each other. What else do he know? That's all he know. What else do he know? If he trying to hit you like he going to be trying to kill you. That's all he know.
Starting point is 00:09:53 So, first time he hit me in the chest, I feel like a horse that keep us going. I ain't think he pushed like that. Still, you feel me? I didn't slow down. Nah, bruh. I ain't slow down. At 54, he still that fast? He still slipping them. You feel meuh, I ain't slowed down. At 54, he still that fast?
Starting point is 00:10:05 You feel me? He still slipping on my stuff. And I'm right now, because I got to be right just in case he get wrong and we going to get wrong together. You feel me? I'm thinking, you understand me? He fancy hit and he punched that head. First of all, he's still too strong.
Starting point is 00:10:18 He still got all his old tricks and he much harder to hit than I ever thought he would have been. You know what I mean? That's what was surprising to me. So you hear Stephen Jackson said, I was worried for you, and Roy Jones Jr. says, I was worried too.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I've never heard him sound that vulnerable, that like, like I said, he sound like a regular guy got in a ring with Mike Tyson. If you know the credentials of the person saying that, you understand what I mean in saying, there are I'm going to have to Concede after earlier arguments degrees of toughness But I would ask you again as we go back to Eagles Patriots Super Bowl You think that the Eagles won that Super Bowl because they were tougher after Tom Brady threw for 500 yards in that game
Starting point is 00:11:04 Classic Dan boiling it down to a singular thing. No, I think it was a contributing factor. But the Patriots lack no toughness, correct? They're also a tough team, but on that day the Eagles proved to be tougher along the inside. You have to be mentally tough to call the Philly special and that's why they're tough. You guys interested?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Am I gonna be the only one watching? No, I'm gonna see if I can watch it. My buddy's having people over, it's a thing. It's definitely a... I just really wanna see Jake Paul get knocked out. Absolutely watching. Dan, you could tell me only three people were watching this and I'd be one of those three people.
Starting point is 00:11:38 But what I'm asking... I'd be the third. And Mike Tyson would be, aren't you that seven year old kid that I bumped into? I have so many more Mike Tyson stories, it's crazy. He's the most fascinating athlete of my time. Yeah, you can make that argument. That I don't know that you would get a lot of,
Starting point is 00:11:55 in terms of just interesting, everything swirling around him. I saw a documentary, or started to watch a documentary last night on Ted Turner on Max, and I'm like, oh my God, that's got to be interesting. How is that? No, no, I just started, I'm like, this is going to be fascinating
Starting point is 00:12:12 because this guy has lived just such an enormous life. I can't believe Mike Tyson is still alive to be able to collect this paycheck. Mike Tyson can't believe that Mike Tyson is still alive to collect this paycheck. Mike Tyson can't believe that Mike Tyson is still alive to collect this paycheck. With all his faculties. I mean, most of them. Some of them.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Look, you know how boxers age. They don't typically age like Mike, right? Roy Jones is a great example of one who's aged great, but Roy Jones is a guy that nobody could touch. He was so quick same thing with Floyd Mayweather same thing with the Golden Boy Oscar de la Hoya These are all guys first of all smaller guys second of all guys that their elusiveness was a big part of their thing, right? Mike took some hits dude. He took some beatings in there. And for him to be reasonably comparable to what he was like at a younger age mentally is kind of shocking in and of itself. No, my arm is still throbbing.
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Starting point is 00:17:20 Show Hangout next week, a week from today. We will be at one of my favorite places on the planet, a Flanagan's. That's right, three of my favorite things are coming together for one spectacular event. Brown's football, not Brown's football. Willow. Will, is she gonna be there?
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah. Oh, yes. What? I heard it was outdoors. I asked if I could bring Willow and I was told I could bring Willow. That is a selling point. Miller Lite, you've secured Willow.
Starting point is 00:17:45 All right, Miller Lite, Levitard Show, Flanagan's, Thursday Night Football, happening. We like to get out there and touch the fans, touch the people. We will be in North Miami Beach. The address for this Flanagan's is 13205 Biscayne Boulevard, North Miami. And we're gonna have a great time.
Starting point is 00:18:03 There's gonna be Miller Lite, oh, Floin. There's gonna be me rooting for the Steelers, I think, over the Browns in this game. I'm a big Mr. Unlimited fan now. I love Mr. Unlimited. And also, let's just laugh at the Browns together. Let's have some rib rolls, let's have some Miller Lite, and let's root for an under.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Roy, will you be going? Maybe. All right, looking forward to it. We do like Flanigans around here. Like, no, like is really underselling it. It is a part of the South Florida experience to go to a Flanigans. There isn't a true native South Floridian
Starting point is 00:18:39 that doesn't adore Flanigans. It's our little space. It is here in this little bottom half of this wonderful peninsula that a lot of people have a lot of feelings about. It's ours. It's uniquely ours. Pablo Torre joins us now. He is now officially, I think, signed a contract to be a part of the powerful liberal media elite with MSNBC. I believe that he is now under threat the same way The View is because The View
Starting point is 00:19:09 doesn't have enough opinions on its show and I'm sure that Pablo Torre's show is also an echo chamber filled with a bunch of people just like him. Congratulations Pablo on your new job. Yeah, it's me and Whoopi Goldberg in a bunker and we shout takes at each other and it's going great so far.
Starting point is 00:19:28 How did you experience yesterday in America with the dismantling of our government with an assortment of assholes and awful people? Yeah, on some level I was like, of course, this is of course the most predictable thing and another level surprised me insofar as I was like, I'm now, I guess, gonna I'm gonna read, I'm gonna read some Matt Gaetz like research. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually think about this for a while. I don't have a lot to say that isn't probably predictable
Starting point is 00:20:00 in the sense of this is exactly the stupidity that is Cinematically on the nose. I'm appropriate. But uh, but yeah part of me is like, you know It's it's gonna be funny when Donald Trump of course claims victimhood because some of these guys maybe don't get confirmed That's maybe the chess move here if there is chess. Otherwise, it's gonna be confirmed in which case Yeah, this is gonna go great wait is Pablo liberal Joe Rogan this is not an echo chain over Pablo Torre and his dalliances with MSNBC or something that I find myself turning Republican as I watch him go and how dare you how How dare you? I find myself creeping over somehow to the side of Matt Gaetz as I just hear you be highfalutin with Joe Scarborough,
Starting point is 00:20:52 Cup of Joe. You might want to do some of the research I've been doing to Matt Gaetz before you say that you're on the side of Matt Gaetz. There's a lot underneath that umbrella category. No, no, no, no, wait a minute. That's how terrible you are. That has nothing to do with how not terrible he is. I'm saying that when I hear you guys-
Starting point is 00:21:07 Are you sure? When I hear you guys- Creeping was accurate though. Yes, maximum creeping. But what I'm saying is there's no way that anyone watching Pablo talk on MSNBC doesn't get bothered even if they agree with him. I gotta tell you, Dan,
Starting point is 00:21:22 after being beholden to your audience and to, of course, the 5 to 6 p.m. audience in ESPN, I have a whole new demo that I didn't know would ever care about my takes. And yes, there are largely older women, but it has been fantastic for your boy. I'm walking around and I'm hearing lots of great feedback.
Starting point is 00:21:40 That is the opposite, in fact, of what creeping Dan Levitard has described. This is not an echo chain. I'm surprised you're getting a lot of positive for you is that you know are you are you a liberal zaddy us from liberal jill rogan uh... i am on testosterone replacement therapy uh... i am in fact increasingly convinced that they're aliens and i do hang out with problematic people compare themselves potentially to
Starting point is 00:22:04 alleged uh... you know offenders like the And I do hang out with problematic people who compare themselves potentially to alleged you know offenders like the The sweaty dude who just said he was on the side of Matt Gaetz So kind of adds up did not say that said it made me go closer to where his side was than your side Just because of how awful you also are Pablo were you aware that there is a subsect of hardcore? Progressives that think that the UFO thing is just a diversionary tactic, that they're UFO agnostic, and this is all just a conspiracy theory to deflect people's attention from the real news. And I would say that, man, the real news deflected
Starting point is 00:22:37 a lot of attention from someone claiming we collected non-human biologics from a crash site. Yeah, in general, I'm like, the deep state we've been warned about, when are they going to show up? Because so far, it's just a lot of people just doing whatever they want without any sort of counter from the alleged forces that are secretly puppeteering everything, including, it turns out,
Starting point is 00:22:57 me and my vocal cords. And it's not showing up so far. So I'm just waiting. I'm waiting for that. Waiting for that stimulus package to kick it you used to be a member might still be a member of the boxing writers association of america are you still a member did you used to be a member and award-winning member
Starting point is 00:23:14 and thank you for asking you what you still are then uh... probably not i've been my dues in a while um... so maybe maybe if they'd if they just kept me on accidentally but yeah haven't yeah, haven't put my membership papers in in a long time. Why? The reason that I ask the question is just what are you to make?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Like what, you are somebody who fits right in the prime demo on whatever it is that Jake Paul and Mike Tyson are trying to do tomorrow night that is spectacle and not really sport so you are aware on this. I like, I not only like, I loved the mixed martial arts and combat sports, loved, I'm using it past tense, because I really did like the artistry and science of what it is that I was watching which is vulnerability with maximum fear, overcoming that fear to do something
Starting point is 00:24:07 that's really hard to do in front of people and by yourself no teamwork no no teammates like i'm fascinated by the courage of all of that and the desperation that goes into making people choose that as a living but i look but i've soured on it a great deal because this is the crud that now passes for what this sport is and I'm not even here to knock it because it's smart. They're going to make all the money. Yeah, for a long time, anybody who would ask me, so how do you feel about the NFL and how
Starting point is 00:24:35 do you feel about again, these sort of like moral scolding sort of issues around sports, how do you feel about them? I'd be like look you should know something about me. I like boxing. I covered boxing. Boxing is consensual concussions like extrapolate from that my actual moral scale. If people are aware of what they're doing and they go into the ring and they want to entertain people and put their humiliation and their health on the line, guess what? I'm super into that. I'm super interested. There's nothing better than as you experience yourself as as a columnist and like covering a fight. The thing about this though is that it reminds me about just how dead my nerve endings are now. And this is a through line from like, what do you think about Matt Gaetz? To what do you think about Jake Paul fighting Mike Tyson at age 60 or whatever it is?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Like I've been on the internet a long time, man. Like at a certain point it became very obvious what the game is to the point where the think piece about the game became less interesting of course it's about humiliation on the line of course it's about attention of course boxing was ahead of all of this all of us as a society in terms of like what the game is here attention being currency hatred being a lure to more eyeballs like all of that was obvious in boxing. This is of course the logical, and now I'm kind of boring results. You know, like what, what, what enlivens me?
Starting point is 00:25:52 Like Matt Gaetz, attorney general kind of sparked something. And then it was back to like, yeah, but again, I kind of expected that. You're numb. You're numb. Yes. You got to, it's not weird enough. It's just not weird enough. My tolerance for weird, like a Chris Cody who has been reared on online pornography and really needs something extreme
Starting point is 00:26:12 to get even the juices going anymore. That's how I feel about politics and sports and weird boxing events. It's just like not weird enough. Sorry. Do better. What were your thoughts on the last 24 hours of Alex Jones? I mean what Ben Collins is doing at The Onion feels like something that we need and I say we as just like people who want comedy as a concept to not be monopolized by people who are deeply unfunny and actually very deeply scolding in their attempt to be endangered species, which is to say, Ben Collins and the Onion buying Infowars at a bankruptcy auction is perfect.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It's perfect. And I'm excited for the investment, again, like real people with money, putting those resources into what feels like a joke and yet is also an appropriate commentary given, again, all the caveats apply about why Alex Jones, of course, is odious and why it's insane that we let him into anything resembling polite spaces in an era where polite spaces are basically non-existent. But I love it. I love the poetry of it uh... that that did actually uh... get me going
Starting point is 00:27:28 a bit it was inspiring frankly like what a great bit was my number one reaction i was trying to figure out how to buy it i just didn't think i could find the funny in the bit i was trying to think of where it is that we could make an attempt to try and buy that and be funny around it, but it seemed all too dangerous to try to be funny about. I will say though, odious, I can't do a better word than that. Comedically and accurately, odious is an, somebody do better than odious.
Starting point is 00:27:58 When describing somebody and wanting to most dismiss them, I'm asking the group here to give me a better word. Ratt-Fink? Comedically than odious. Just, well. Dickhead? Not just insults, I'm looking more sort of for adjectives really. Odious.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Dip shit. What's an adjective? Dip shitty. Dip shit is a noun. Shit for brains. You guys are using all nouns. Ratt-Fink. Repugnant. You guys, yeah repugnant you guys have repugnance practice
Starting point is 00:28:27 that's a good one for you i go i go i go i go feckless sometimes reckless all given the highfalutin sound that is that right there is the music current feckless is to uh... highbrow how are you pronouncing that i go up forhorrent there. I've got a horn. I've got the abhorrent I've got yeah, I'm horrent is how I do it there. Hard whore Odious odious is pretty damn good Pablo. I salute you. I can't do better than that. I'm thinking it Do you it evokes a smell there's like a stench?
Starting point is 00:28:59 That's why but that's it it doesn't. It's not implied. Odious, you're telling me that something stinks immediately. Like that's- Yeah, I wanna barf. Yeah, that's it. It makes me wanna barf. Barf worthy, not as highfalutin, but means the same thing. Pablo, I'm curious your opinion on this.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I've kind of trying to, everyone's trying to unpack what happened and how our generation was told we have to leave this place better for our kids and then our kids ended up voting for Republicans and in record numbers it would appear and it caught a lot of people by surprise and then I realized that's how teenage rebellion kind of works. It was the same case with kids that were born during the Reagan administration they veered more liberal so maybe this is the yo-yo that'll
Starting point is 00:29:45 go back and forth. I do actually think progressives are in a good position now, although they won't ever agree on that given everything that's happened, especially in the last few days. But it's a lot cooler to be chasing. You can be anti-establishment when you're not the ones in charge. Our show peaked when Donald Trump had his first term in terms of audience, in terms of reach, in terms of cultural impact because we were chasing that. Then when we were all of a sudden in charge, I use we, the royal we, the the cool thing was to go against who was in
Starting point is 00:30:22 charge and rage against that machine. So now that the shoe is going to be on the other foot, I actually think you gotta lean into the cool things that make you rebellious. Yeah, I saw among many charts that my brain has picked up like a lint roller over the last several weeks, just like bits of trash and information, that demographic chart about how Gen X
Starting point is 00:30:42 was the strongest generation in terms of favoring Trump was perfect, right? Because of course, Gen X, rebels, people who are too cool, who are anti the system end up embodying the very thing that they railed against. And this is in some ways, Mike, like, yeah, the pendulum, just the pendulum of human political behavior swinging back and forth such that any sort of murder mystery diagnosis of like who caused this who did it oh it was it was Pablo Torre in the library with with a take about trans people it's like no actually it's probably just the pendulum swinging back and forth everybody feeling like they don't want to be the system and therefore plausibly claiming that they're not the system when they're
Starting point is 00:31:20 out of power we're definitely getting in terms of like people who are not on the, again, the Matt Gaetz side of things. We're getting to benefit from that actual danger, actual potentially, you know, persecution, prosecution from the richest man in the world who has become the most powerful private citizen in the history of America after campaigning against the unelected forces actually running America. Like, of course like of course like yeah fill in all of
Starting point is 00:31:47 the obvious hypocrisies that you might point out with your magnifying glass at this point but we're back to being you know in danger from a political perspective and therefore probably culturally ascendant in that same way quick follow-up curious your your thoughts. It's been said and I don't see any hard data that suggests this so I guess it's been hypothesized that Millennials are better at parsing through misinformation on the internet better than any other generation. Not the ones that were born when the internet was fully rocking anything, not the ones that were pre
Starting point is 00:32:20 internet. We're the only generation that met it kind of in the middle. We remember life before the internet and we remember when the internet came along. Why do you think that's being said about our generation, that we're the best at filtering through this? It would stand to reason that it would be the youngest generations that would be better because it's so ever-present. Yeah, because you have older friends, parents, bosses, hosts of this very show, in fact, who are constantly asking us, how do you do this thing on your phone? And then we have to realize we don't know either. So we got to figure that out. You know, when Dan's AOL email address is
Starting point is 00:32:57 asking, is this shark real? It's like, yeah, we got trained in speaking to both parties here. We are across the aisle of of time and politics in that way. Also, Mike, just in terms of my nostalgia, like I think we're a generation that longs for the sweet, sweet simplicity of a dial up modem screaming at us. We remember what it was like when you had to earn a JPEG, when Carmen Electra. Loading loading that image was a character building, patience requiring experience. We didn't have the on-demand synapse destruction of whatever, again, Chris Cody is into these days.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Mom, get off the phone. Yes. I'm trying to chat someone. My crush is online. Yes, yes. We remember what it meant when a door opened and closed on our buddy list. Who is that? Damn it.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Goodbye. Rest in peace, by the way. He just died. Goodbye. He just died. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. The AOL goodbye. You have mail voice.
Starting point is 00:33:57 He passed away last week. He got mail. Just passed away last week, yeah. Tom Hanks? No. He's still very much alive and thinks 35 is the toughest age. Pablo, stay right there for a second. We have to go immediately to Amin Elhassan. He is taking a victory lap. It is a sponsored segment. It is important that we break into all programming to take care of our sponsors. We will
Starting point is 00:34:19 continue to tell the audience, one of the most supportive audiences in the history of all media, not just sports media, to please support the sponsors who support us. And here is Amin Elhassan taking a victory lap today and I can see where this is going. Oh, Dan, first of all, shout out to Jocelyn Thompson-Ruhl. I call her Jocelyn-Ruhl. She's my instructor on the Peloton app. I love the Peloton app. I love the Peloton app.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I love, you know, every time we do this segment, everyone's winded and out of breath and sweating and they're doing jumping jacks and stuff. And I think it's intimidating sometimes. Some people are like, I can't do Peloton, I'm not in shape. Guess what? They've got a lot of stuff for beginners,
Starting point is 00:34:57 for starters to get easy. Like I said, Joss Ruhl has me on a five minute warmup walk, which is perfect. Because I'm doing a victory lap baby! Can we get to the victory lap please? I didn't need the preamble, I could just use the victory lap. Buddy the preamble is kind of what's paying for this whole thing so relax, relax on that. But as I was saying me and Josh Rule were doing a little victory lap because my Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets did what I told you all would happen last week.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I said it multiple times and you guys were like, I don't know what to say. And what did I tell you, Dan? It's so freeing to be a fan. You guys suck, we're gonna kick your ass. And that's all it took. That's all it took. And by the way, I heard the analysis on Monday.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I heard it, Mike. You guys talk so much. Well, our defense, you know, our defense, can our defense, what about our defense? What about our defense? We locked y'all up. We locked up the Heisman trophy winning guy who's gonna win the Heisman trophy We locked up the number one offense in the land you guys did not give our defense enough credit forget about our Offense kick your we knew that was gonna happen you guys suck on the defensive side But the thing that you're great at we stopped you there, too Our offense kicked your ass. We knew that was gonna happen. You guys suck on the defensive side.
Starting point is 00:36:05 But the thing that you're great at, we stopped you there too. You guys said, oh, well Miami's gonna score 38 points every game, but the only question is, the only team that's gonna score 40. We didn't have to, you know why? Because we put y'all in cuffs. Guantanamo, that's where Cam Ward is at right now.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Wondering what went wrong in his life. Really? Yeah. Guantanamo. Yes. He essentially scored 35 and he kept the ball nine minutes at a time. That was really more about the offensive execution.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Look buddy, you had your opportunities. They gave the dude the ball. Could you make some happen? No, he couldn't. Fair enough. Sorry. This segment is supposed to be you breathless. It's victory.
Starting point is 00:36:43 No, no, no, no. It's a victory lap. No one sprints in a victory lap, Dan. And like I said, the Peloton app is great because it has stuff for beginners. You don't have to be killing yourself on the first day. You can ease into it. And that's where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:36:55 By the way, I am out of breath and shiny too. So I don't know, just cause I'm not like, like Tony doing pushups and stuff, doesn't mean I'm not tired in here. Cardio comes in many different forms. Also, this is not the picture I wanted. This is like the nerds from Comp E, Russian Appeal. I wanted the dude that looked like the red rifle taking a selfie next to Mario Cristobal. That was a great picture. And as soon as I saw you there, I wanted to tell video,
Starting point is 00:37:20 why are you not using that other great picture as opposed to the one you are using? I wanted to say that and it's funny that you would say that you wanted the other one which is spectacular and not that one Yeah, I mean I say it because I know sometimes there are things that are wrong with like Oh, look the synapses and the pixelation. I don't give a shit put that picture up I don't care if it's stretched and Mario Cristobal looks like he's 400 pounds as opposed to 350. Put it up there. I want to see it because I want to be that kid for a second. I don't miss a whole lot about college, but I do miss Russian field.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Then have you. There it is. That's my boy. Hold on. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. Oh, look at his face. Oh, how dare you take a picture of me?
Starting point is 00:38:05 How dare you try to win against Georgia Tech, baby? Huh? How dare you? Mario Cristobal's not feeling good about that photo for a number of reasons. He needs a bra. The boobs, yeah, the boobs. Pablo. A man's ear.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Pablo, what were you going to say? You wanted to get in here? Yeah, I just wanted to apologize to Chris Cody, and we collectively have been turning him into the avatar, of course, of pornography in America. Meanwhile, Amin Elhassan also works for this company. And so I just want to acknowledge that obviously everyone knows Amin, in fact, has the darkest incognito browsing history of anyone I've met on Larkmin. Wake me up when Harvard does something of note.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Thank you, Amin. We don't need you anymore talking about these things. This victory lap was presented by peloton Find your push find your power with peloton Pablo before you get out of here Pablo Tori finds out is a rapidly ascending Podcast it is getting more and more popular all the time. What do you have that we should be listening to? Yeah, I think today's episode is our best episode possibly that we've done to date I literally just made a Mario Chrisobal interview request. Yeah so literally. Can we stop? Please please stop that. Please stop. It's just. Go ahead Pablo. You were saying. No I mean touching the nipple of a photographed Mario Cristobal is what we should be doing for the audio
Starting point is 00:39:21 audience. Yes. Instead while I over here, sending a correspondent to a super max prison in Texas to investigate what fantasy football is like among death row inmates. So this is a real story. I don't want to spoil it. It is about yes, capital punishment as a system, but it's also about how one actually does continue to watch sports, love sports, talk trash about your favorite teams, root for the Dallas Cowboys when there may not always be a next year. So, Dan, I think it's honestly the best thing we've done so far. And briefly, briefly, it started because it turned out there was a database online of the last words of death row inmates in the state of Texas and a disturbing number of them their last words were how about them cowboys and so we decided to
Starting point is 00:40:13 figure out to find out why it is that that is so and how one actually does continue to watch the Dallas Cowboys on death row in America and And I genuinely and unironically encourage you to see what we reported. I think it'll change a lot of your minds. Give me a clip, Lewis, please, from Pablo Torre finds out that Pablo was supposed to throw it too, but forgot because he was too busy smelling his own farts. How did you guys even draft players, though?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Or how do you, is it all through the window? Mostly it was week to week. So depending on the matchups, you would make a new lineup. You understand? Okay. You know, Tom Brady's playing whoever, so you're starting Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And if it's a two quarterback league, you know, whoever else it might be, you know, and Rogers, right? So there's a deadline, you got to turn him in by, you know, and Rogers, right? So there's a deadline, you gotta turn him in by, you know, Friday at noon, and slide the stuff out from the cells to the day rooms, and then those guys would get the stuff and give it to another day room, make his way out there
Starting point is 00:41:16 with what we call a fishing line, and it's essentially like a long string that he'll slide to the day room and he'll pull him back in. I have never felt worse about forgetting to check my lineup. That is what it takes to play fantasy football on death row. Right, and just enjoying this conversation, one fantasy football player to another, and you sort of get lost in that, you forget where you are, and then there's this gut punch. But what happened to your league? are, and then there's this gut punch.
Starting point is 00:41:47 But what happened to your league? Slowly but surely, the guys that played, they've just been pushed out of existence. They've been executed, they're gone. You know, and that's just a reality of being on death row. That's a reality of being sentenced to death. So overproduced with the music, the slow music. What are you kidding me? The death row inmates started dying?
Starting point is 00:42:14 What? Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Production value, I know, is a horrifying concept. That music, no. To the Scorsese's in Miami, right? But we actually put thought and effort into how we tell stories as opposed to actually just having a mean rub a nipple.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Really? Yeah. Did anyone have the thought like, hey, this might be too sad and it seems like we're celebrating murderers? We are decidedly not the liberal Joe Rogan. Yeah, we're fat shaming Mario and we're making fun of death row inmates, not liberal Joe Rogan. I think Mario looks great, by the way.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I would like to advise and encourage you all, go to freecharlesflores.com, realize why The Innocence Project took on his case, and realize that somewhere at this company, someone who's doing actual work as opposed to sitting at a table and Masturbating literally and figuratively. Okay, you were just music for an innocent person on the death row literally. Yeah, I get that Okay, it didn't need the music. It was overproduced and you guys like guys have lost the ability He was saying something dramatic. I get it He's on death row and the people around him die the music doesn't make it any any different it's just yes people die on death row that's kind of why it's called death row stop stop excusing your own production
Starting point is 00:43:32 laziness and and pretending that that's a decision you guys work smart not hard work smart not how about work at all you guys are like that's too much work in that yeah produced a song that he wrote lyrics to 10 minutes into a segment yesterday produced a fresh song the final nightgown. You got people, I got 10 people that were paying god knows how much to put some syrupy music behind death row guys on death row. We're trying to make things that people who don't like what is on screen with me, like naturally, this is not their thing, to know that we're actually making
Starting point is 00:44:07 some of the best work in sports media. And sometimes, sometimes that involves a thing called scoring. Get him out of here. It's a little thing called scoring. Just get him out of here. Like we score Edward R. Murrow awards. But I don't know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I don't know what I'm doing. He's award winning Pablo Torre. That's all I got. But if the end of the story is, yeah, well he killed 17 people. I go Pablo Torre. That's all I got. But if the end of the story is, yeah, well, he killed 17 people, I go like a different track. That's not the story. No, please tell me.
Starting point is 00:44:29 That is absolutely not the story. Please, did you start CD LAM, guy who killed 17 people? Pablo Torre finds out. You guys sound ridiculous. Award winning Pablo Torre finds out. If you want overproduced music. It's the final nightgown. That's how you produce. That's underproduced right there.
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