The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Dan's Nine-Day Late World Series Coverage

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

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the taste of wetness. I was in Los Angeles most of last week, and so I didn't actually get to talk about that World Series as much as I would have liked to. So I just want to ask you guys two questions based on that epic historic World Series. One, did you guys know that as Clayton Kershaw warmed up in the bullpen and the game was decided? He didn't know as it ended that it was over. He thought he was coming in to pitch because he did not know that they were ahead. He did not know that the World Series was over. Clayton Kershaw descended

into full-blown senility by the end of his career. It's not just that he was bad at pitching. He didn't, you're surprised by this. You had not heard this? Yeah, why would anyone not be surprised hearing that? I was also surprised. He just didn't, he didn't, it didn't register for him

that they had won the World Series. But the other question I wanted to ask you guys, because we mentioned last week that that series just an extra inning, had more memorable moments than your average world series. The thing I wanted to ask you guys is how haunting, and I want you guys to think about this for a second, how haunting do you believe all of that will be going into the future

for Alejandro Kirk? The fact that you're coming up in that situation, first and third, it's the situation every kid dreams about at the beginning of sports, I get to come up in game seven, at home. Canada wants to win something meaningful when Canada doesn't win anything meaningful ever. You're knocking off the giant. You have in front of you, first and third, one out. But you're shaped like no baseball player today is shaped.

You're not much of a runner, and you ground into a double play on a broken bat, hitting the ball in the one spot that you can't hit it where they're going to turn a quick double play. And you go from all of your dreams to this is going to haunt you for a while. I imagine that this is the kind of thing that makes you not sleep for many nights if you care about sports, care about. I think that guy's great. That guy's great. He was great in the postseason, but the season, all of it dies. Vladimir Guerrero is on base.

They've gotten the game to the part of the lineup that the ball. Blue Jays trust the most, and then at the end of the game, I imagine that he has trouble sleep, that he's still not sleeping correctly because of how all of that ended for him. We have examples of pitchers who never really recover from that moment. Are there examples of good hitters who never recover from that moment? I'm trying to remember a moment like that for a hitter, right? There are, there's a Metset bat of some source. I think it was Beltran who just took a third strike.

to end the season, and you can't take a third strike to end the season. You have to swing the bat, but I, off the top of my head, I cannot remember quite that kind of haunting where you go from. You're going into that battersbach thinking, this is all my dreams come true. I'm getting the opportunity that everybody wants for my country, for my team, for my teammates. I've got the ability to slay the giant here at home. and end the most epic world series, maybe since Joe Carter did it 30 years ago for Toronto by hitting a walk-off home run. But that was a game six.

That wasn't, that's not game seven, end of the game, runners on first and third. All you need is a fly ball to tie the game, but instead you become something that's an eternal horrific at bat where people will not forget that you've failed in the spot that all the kids. dream about. The shame of it for Kirk is he had been so special through the entire postseason and even in the World Series. Remember, he's the guy who gave them the lead in game three with a home run and was so effective offensively for them taken out in the 12th inning of that 18-inning marathon so not given the opportunity to turn out to be the hero in that game that could have given them a 3-0 series lead. Instead, he comes up in this spot after catching a grueling season nearly every single game and being one of the best defensive catchers in baseball,

hitting the crap out of the ball all postseason long, and then hits it right into the spot where Mukie Beck can make that play. It's going to keep him up forever. And you wonder if it almost, like, it almost impacts his swing path moving forward. Like, I never want to hit the ball on the ground for the rest of my life. I really do think it's an uncommon kind of haunting because I just, off the top of my head, I can't remember a situation. like that where you go from all your dreams come true to your season is over in an instant and you've disappointed not just your teammates your country at the end of that series when the thing about this i don't know how the rest of you deal with disappointment but one of the ways to deal with disappointment is to place your expectations in a reasonable place when he's entering that batters box his expectations are through the roof on what it is can be accomplished there. And the one thing that you can't do is the thing that he did. It's the only thing. You could strike out on three pitches and it's not that.

Again, that's the shame, right? Because his, I would think his fan base will be forgiving of that moment, considering what it is that he did to get them there. And the fact that Yamamoto came in and mowed down everybody over multiple innings. There were also so many other chances. that game that they should have won. Right, right, that's the thing. He's not the only one who came up short. He's just the one who ended it. It's Bieber

who gives up the home run in the previous at bat. It's like Miguel Rojas. Or have a base runner on the force out at home. Like, you know, I would put him in front. No, but no, the punctuation, the punctuation is where it is that you go from all of your dreams to the worst nightmares.

Something I had happened to me during football, this continues to happen to me in a way that's surprising. It is legitimately surprising what washes over me. I'm listening really briefly to Carolina Saints yesterday. Carolina's in the mix now. Their season was over every time they won, but now they're back in the mix after they lose that one. I don't understand your approach of the Carolina Panthers. You wrote them off after a win, but now after a bad home loss to the Saints, they're in the mix? In the mix. Yes. Well, now I'm just trying to be at this trough where everyone is eating, trying actively to be provocative for the sake of provocation.

But the thing that swept over me, that keeps sweeping over me, is I feel bad for Chris Myers because he's the one who has to broadcast that game. And I'm like, he's done too many of these. He needs to be promoted to something that's not this game. That him having to be forced to watch that game, he's been doing too many years of that game as a local product here in South Florida. went to Shamanad High School. He deserves, put it on the poll at Lebitard show, Juju. Does Chris Myers, after all these years, deserve to be promoted from that hell that is Carolina Saints? Is Chris Myers-NFC Spiro Didis? He always gets stuck with that game.

That one. Spiro got stuck with Brown's Jets. What are we doing? He deserved to be in Houston for Jags, Texas. I feel like they're trolling us. Since we had him on, he's not getting any of his games. He hasn't had a single AFC South assignment. Since he revealed, he's in a group chat that says AFC South Boys.

Boy, that chat must be dormant. That Jets game, I did not know. Have you guys seen Will McDonald the 4th has the Roman numeral 4 on the back of a jersey? I've never seen it before. Have you guys seen the Roman numeral 4? Yeah, for the Texans. Will Fuller. Oh, yeah.

That guy steal money on dolphins? He did. One season of... My bad. For a second there, I was like, his jersey number is a Roman... That's wild. I get it now in the name. Yeah, that's more common.

Did he have four sacks yesterday? did Will McDonald have four sacks in that Brown's Jets game? Did you guys watch any of that? Because I'm going to give the stat again. When it was on Red Zone. I mean, the Jets had two consecutive kicks return for touchdowns. That's as good as the Jets have felt in how many years. Those two kick returns for touchdowns.

Justin Fields going three for six for five yards with an interception and watching everything that was happening in that game. The total in that game was lower than all the other totals yesterday, and they went over it fairly quickly because they got... The Jets actually, quiet as it's kept, you'd have no reason to know this. Their special teams have been very good this year. It's the only thing about the Jets that have been any good. But nobody thinks that the Browns of Dilling...

Dillon Gabriel's not the answer there, correct? Like, we're aware that that's not a solution to anybody's problems. I don't know if they're aware. We're still tracking towards a means plan, if you remember. They go to Dylan early, and then they're going to eventually get to Shadur by a means plan. Yeah, I mean, I would have thought that that is the plan, but it seems like they hate Shadur Sanders. And it seems like he's not ready. But when you guys are watching any portion of Brown's jets, are you made sad by what it is you're doing with your life?

I am so happy that I'm not doing that with my life anymore. Honestly, I've come out on the other side, like so happy. You're Tim Robbins, you're Andy Dufrain from Shawshank Redemption? I can't believe this isn't my life anymore. Do you understand, like, that was my life for 20 years, that game? It doesn't wait, like, you don't miss it at all? No, I certainly don't miss that either. There weren't really any good times.

I thought you're a Bucks guy now. You're not stressing that loss yesterday. I am stressing a little bit. I mean, they're still so hurt. How do you come out of a bi-week more injured? But do you, like, will games be going on? And I understand that you got Red Zone on, whatever. You don't take out your phone and follow what you're,

former favorite team is doing? No. First year, I was keeping an eye on it a little bit more, and the Deshaun thing was a national storyline, so you had to follow it. Now, it's just like, they barely exist. Wow. Good for you. Clean break. Thank you. It means a lot to me. Now, if they drafted K.m. Ward, I would have been back in.

They had, that was their one opportunity. Wow. But thank God. So now I'm watching Great Titans Football, mind you. I'm curious, as I say this question, what the answer is, because it's not something I've considered before. How many more bad teams are there in the league that you know are bad

than teams you know are good? Teams that you trust to be good going forward. Who is at the moment, are the Chiefs the betting favorite? Who's the bet? Yeah, we talked about this. And then the Rams. Yeah, Chiefs and then Rams. And then Steve Martin.

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He gives him one of these, and he gives them one of those. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Well, their schedule, the next three games are going to make it so they are good. Four and five. Ravens are back, Jack. Look at what their schedule is the next three games, because that was the tough one. Yesterday was the tough one in Minnesota. I think they've got Cincinnati, Cleveland, and the Jets next.

I think those are their next three games. I'm starting to get a little pissed off at how much J.J. McCarthy is confusing me. I don't know why you'd believe in J.J. McCarthy. He started four games. Because he's had like two electric quarters where I'm like, I see it. I see it. What do you see? I see it.

No, no, this is the thing about that league that, look, Davis Mills has six wins in his career. Three of them are against the Jags. Davis, Davis, the Jags think Davis Mills is Patrick Mahomes. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Do the Jags think that Davis Mills is Patrick Mahomes? Is that why Tony was so in on Davis Mills? He just watches so much Jaguar football that he thinks Davis Mills is Dan Marino. Tony's in on every quarterback.

Yeah, but that one's, No, because Colt McCoy will always give you that game once in a while. Like, we can do this. What's the commercial for backups? Is it progressive? I've thought Trubisky's in these commercials. Bridgewater is in these commercials. I've thought that their agents, that they should have more dignity than this,

that Trubisky and Bridgewater shouldn't take that money to be backup orders because someone screws up a fast food order. I want to see the email back and forth between the quarterback and his agent because it gets pitched, he goes, I'm not doing that. I'm not a, I don't want to be a backup. And then they get the number. And he's like, all right, I'll do it. I think Gardner Minchu turned that down and should have taken it. Like, he's the personality type who should take it. I also enjoy from those commercials, and they've been doing this since Brian Arakbo was doing it. Saying their name. They have to name their name because otherwise you wouldn't know it was Trubisky or you wouldn't

know what Bridgett. Hey, Mitch Trubisky, get over here. Hey, Case Keenum. I mean, they did the same thing with Baker Mayfield. Despite having started one and five, the Ravens are a massive favorite to win the AFC North. Did I have their schedule right over the next three games where they're going to have a five-game winning street? Brown Shet Spangles. Steelers also piss me off. I don't like watching them. It's a weird team. They're not good. When did Aaron Rogers become a huge scarity cat?

Guy hates contact. He's old. He just like, he's just flinching and running away and throwing balls in the dirt. The guy hates getting hit. And he's extra pissy this year. I don't like him. Did he just quietly stop doing McAfee? Because you say he's extra pissy, but I don't see him making any more headlines.

Pissie at his teammates. Like, no one can stare down a teammate and make them feel like shit more with their face than Aaron Rod. Marino was the best of that. Oh, Marino was so good. Aaron needs some stubble. I don't like clean-shaven Aaron. Brady was pretty good at that, too. Brady was pretty good at showing everybody, everyone else's imperfections.

Also, what's going on? Chargers. Why the yellow pants? you're going out of your way to make this hard. Ravens too. Screw you, Ravens. Weird. You're playing the Vikings and you're like, hey, let's dust off the purple pants here. Yeah, it was weird. Let me explore something with you

when Mike Ryan says, huge sclerity cat, Aaron Rogers. And I'm not going to disagree with you, but Aaron Rogers is of an age that to me, if you told me right now, hey, you know who hates getting hit? Nick Folk. Nick Folk hates the way that he's getting better. Once you're over 40, once you're

around 40 years old, it seems like a terrible job to be being hit by 330 pound people? No, I understand. I don't want it. It's not my job, but it's also something that he's been doing for 20 years. And now it's just like a super odd time to be all of a sudden like, I'm over. If you don't want to get hit, don't play the game. There are so many plays that I'm watching Aaron Rogers in the pocket now this season where I'm like, that dude is old. It's also the Achilles thing. And it's natural. Like, guys don't excel at this age for a reason. There was only

one. And we were having an honest debate as to whether or not he cloned himself last week. He's that much of an outlier, but there are so many times in the pocket where I'm like Aaron Rogers and Green Bay would get out of that nine times out of ten. And now he's just giving himself over to sacks or throwing bowls in the dirt or getting rid of it as quickly as he can because a dude just does not want to get touched. They're five and four. It feels like they have no chance at making the playoffs. Right? But then next week they'll put together a complete. I mean, they just beat the Colts.

They just beat the Colts. They're a confusing team. They piss me off. Not as much as JJ McCarthy does, but they're getting up there. They only beat the Colts, though, because the Colts turned the ball over six times. Well, the Browns beat the Dolphins 30 to 6, and then the Dolphins beat the Bills 30 to 13. So they beat them doesn't really seem to mean anything in this league. How old is Stafford?

What is the age on Matthew Stafford? 38. Who doesn't seem to be shying away from contact? And you can certainly make the argument. I mean, the stat I gave earlier is an insanity. To play six games and throw two. 20 touchdown passes against zero interceptions is a level of perfection and mastery. We haven't seen in the sport before, as Jeremy mentioned.

But for him to be 38, I can make the argument, could I not, that Stafford is having his best season ever? I think you could make an argument that you probably trust him more than any quarterback. He's not the best, all right? I trust my team to be great with Patrick Mahomes. I trust him to be great with Josh Allen, but there are elements to their game, which also make them special. they have a higher ceiling because they'll make unbelievable things happen, but they'll do the occasional heat check feel themselves crazy

thing. Matthew Stafford, in terms of trustworthiness, I trust more than anybody. I know that he's not going to do anything crazy in a game. I want to play the game worst over 500 team and best under 500 team. There's only one team in the entire NFL that's 5 and 5. 500 Panthers.

So we're going to eliminate them from this game. They're just in the middle. Their season is done, but they're in the mix. All right. So there's only for me, there's Two nominees for worst above 500 team, and it's Steelers, Jags. They're both five and four. There's no other. All the other team, maybe Bears would be the next where they're six and three, but we actually kind of buying that.

I'll throw the bills in there. Really? Yeah. They're not in the Jacks, Steelers conversation. Saz, you're doing the, like, the Sugott's, Andy Reed, Patrick Mahomes, but like, what are you doing? I don't know if you saw the game yesterday. Dolbin's 1.30 to 13. That window's closed.

That's not a good team. It has to be for the best under 500 team, I don't think we're going to do better than Ravens. No, we're not going to do. Well, if, if, if Vikings 4.5. If Joe Burrow were to come back, all of a sudden, you would have Stugats arguing that no one would want to play them in the Super Bowl. He has them as last year's best team, even though they didn't. It's Vikings or Ravens for under 500 teams. Well, you guys stop with the Vikings.

They've got a quarterback problem. They're a good team. I don't know. They're not bad. I see it. But I also don't like them. The Vikings have a quarterback problem, okay, because you're sitting here buying on J.J. McCarthy when you're willing to buy on any quarterback who can go 17 for 27 in a game as most of them can.

I'm not buying, but I also don't want to let this opportunity slip through my fingers. I'm just at the furniture store staring at it. Do the Cowboys get any conversation in their under 500? No, their defense is just horrific. Yeah, it is. How about the dolphins? I mean, come on, one and O since they fired her. The game's over.

Stop that. Dolphins three backup playoffs. Really good. Okay. The dolphins, though, getting back to what I was originally saying earlier in the show, in terms of surprising results this season, because the dolphins have now had two of these games where they put up six points, okay? They did it against the Ravens.

They did it against the Browns. Then they go out there against the bills, and they drag the bills. Drag the bills in a game that was never close. You were expecting the entire time for the bills to do something just because they can be scary offensively and they've got an MVP at quarterback. But in terms of surprising results this season, can it be an eight-point dog at home?

Is that the most surprising result of the season? Or is Cleveland Green Bay going to be that? No, I think that's the most surprising start, surprising game. And I'm just wondering, like, Sean McDermott's got to be the first coach ever to lose a game when the other team called a timeout before the first play, right? Like, that's first time ever on it.

Yeah, that's probably the first time that that's ever happened, yes, because I've never seen a timeout called before any time has come off the clock. The penalty and the timeout is just a chef's kiss. Okay, but do you realize that McDaniel could have called that timeout on Friday or Saturday, and it felt the same as what, there was no time off the clock? I'm pretty sure I saw Randy Shannon do that six times. The Dolphins had no timeouts remaining with nine minutes left in the first half. Sean McDerm has got to be the first coach

to ever lose to a team that had no timeouts remaining with nine minutes left in the first half, right? Can I ask the rest of you? Windows closed down. If you were Joey Bosa and you had a cast on your arm and your defense stinks and everyone's injured but you're out there with a cast on your arm and A. Chan,

who can be tough to tackle and broke a lot of tackles yesterday, if you look at the sidelines and your coach who looked dumber when he's wearing glasses, just yelling at you, wrap him up. And you can't even give him the middle finger because you've got a cast on you've got his hand I don't believe was free. I believe

the cast was over the entirety of his hand. Was it not? Sounds like it makes it difficult to wrap up. It would seem like what what good is your coach doing in that spot when a tackle is being broken and you feel bad enough and you look at your sideline and your coach

is telling you wrap him up as if you're not a professional football player who knows that he's supposed to wrap him up. Well but what's McDermott's supposed to say in that spot? Like he's yelling wrap it up to everybody else but with Bosa's involved like wrap it up no except for you Bosa because you're wearing a cast and it's really hard

for you to wrap it up but everybody else wrap it up. Jeremy, would you do me the favor, please? I don't think that a cast should be around the fingers but I don't know

what part of Bosa was hurt that made him wear a cast that now has me imagining that the cast was also wrapping up his fingers because I don't think that's I don't think that's a cast that they do in medicine

but maybe he had a finger wrist problem. I don't remember I remember, like, I'm watching this, and I'm like, Bosa couldn't, you need your hands to be able to wrap somebody up like you get... Yeah, my favorites when they make it, the club. Yeah, it's a club. That's a club. No fingers.

Okay, so let's just get some of it straight. You're allowed to punch players are in a game, and you're allowed to actually play the game with a club, which for all intents and purposes is a weapon. If you have a club and you're swinging in people, that's a foreign object. That's how Owen Hart used it. Yep. He's got a club, and he's allowed to swing it at people. Where were you on Lex Lugar in the illegal forearm? I didn't like it, you know. He had the plate in the top.

I didn't like it. It was, it was all, that was a point of contention for me as a kid. How is that allowed? He's got a metal plate in his arm. On Fox 1, you can stream your favorite live sports, so you're there for the biggest moments as they happen. For me, I cannot deal with spoilers, so I need to see it live,

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That's a That's a 7.6 Solid Good job That's a suey nominee right there This is the Dan Levitar show With these two gods It is too bad that Greg Cody is not here with us today,

not just because the Homer Dolphins were celebrating. His homerific dolphins were celebrating in the locker room as if they had won the Super Bowl. And he was bragging on the Great Cody show that came out this morning that he had the dolphins with the spread yesterday, shockingly. Yeah, he always picks the dolphins to keep it close. To lose, but cover. Right.

Well, he also had them, though, having a winning season, as I recall. 15th best team. Well, they're about to win three in a row. I mean, if you go ahead and look at this schedule. Now, they might lose the commanders and then they might win three in a row, the commanders have lost five straight games, and they have Marcus Marietta quarterback. That's fair. And then they have a buy week, and then the Saints with Tyler Shuck, and then the Jets,

they're going to go into Monday night football at the Pittsburgh Steelers with a chance to get to 500. How many more bad teams are? are there in the NFL than good teams? How many more teams are there that you know are bad? Bad or good? Put them into either category? Well, because we just talked about the Ravens and the Dolphins' schedule, and all of those teams are bad. Like, everybody, the next month

of games for the Ravens and the Dolphins are a bad team. I think there are more good teams than bad teams. No. You know who else pisses me off Atlanta? Who are you? That's a bad team. Yeah. They're not going in the good bucket. I won't sit for that. I got 10 bad teams. I mean, they almost won at New England last week. They should have.

Yeah, but almost winning. I'm doing... Bucks, Patriots, good. Teams you know are bad and teams you know are good. And I think there are good, many more bad teams. For example, I know that the Carolina Panthers, whose season is done, even though they're in the mix, I know they're a bad team.

I know the Carolina Panthers are a bad team. I mean, they won at Lambo. Yeah, so did Cleveland? No, Cleveland won in Cleveland. Did they? Yes. Oh, I thought that game was in Green Bay for some reason. Regardless, winning in Lambeau.

Lambo are not winning in Lambo. I'm not sure Green Bay is a good team, even though they can be undefeated, if not for their losses against bad teams. They could beat the Super Bowl champions today. I'm not positive Green Bay is a good team because of what their losses are, not what their wins are. Yeah, they're strange. They're going to have one of the better wins in the season if they beat the Eagles tonight.

They've got the worst tie that was seen in the time. Worse home loss to Carolina and then they lost to Cleveland. They have one of the best wins of the season too, though, that first game against Detroit. They killed them. They're a very strange team. It's interesting that you've checked out on the Browns, and yet you made that correction on me on where that Green Bay game was played, even though you're not paying attention to the Browns at all. Dan, I care about being accurate. I'm not a man that's just going to stick to his guns.

Also, I had like $400 on that game. Chris Cody, do me the favor, please, of getting your narcissist father, who I wish was here today. I was labeling my good and bad teams, but y'all get that for you. If not for his trickney, your father would be here because he would enjoy that there was ESPN's Taylor Wall. Taylor Wall was calling a game here. Well, look, listen to what he said, because you're going to get jealous here, Zaslo. He's calling a basketball game. And I believe this is this is his introduction.

Like he is opening the broadcast. He is opening the broadcast on ESPN. Taylor Wall is doing a college basketball game. And this is how he opens it. Welcome back to Charles and Taylor Wall. Jack DeLong Shaw here, as the great Greg Cody would say, college basketball is back, Jack. It's awesome. I mean, that's awesome.

All right, welcome back to Charles and Taylor Wall, Jack DeLong Shaw here. As the great Greg Cody would say, college basketball is back, Jack. So inside. Even the guy next to him was just like, okay, whatever that means. Keep it moving. I mean, that's real confidence, though, at the start of a broadcast to be so... Do you warn your partner, you're going to do that? Right, right.

Listen, I'm going to say something. Just roll with it. You guys have the same kind of reaction to the start of college basketball season than I did, which was not yet. It is too early. That's an after Thanksgiving thing for me. Oh, that's a March thing for me. I think it's a March thing for like 90%. The people that are really in a college basketball are either in Indiana

or they gamble way too much. Not enough options for you on the gambling that you need to do college. You need to do college basketball in November before you know what anyone is. The people that make a lot of money on gambling, on sports gambling. They love their college basketball. It's a one with the lines where they don't matter what the house had. I want to talk a little bit about a gambling story that is going to be under the radar. And I want to ask you guys why it's under the radar because it seems to me that the basketball prop scandals are bigger than the baseball prop scandals.

but this most recent Cleveland Guardian scandal that involves Lee Ortiz and Emmanuel Class A. Now, Emmanuel Class A year ago before last season was as unhittable a human being as there was. He was the best closer in baseball. Every time I watched him pitch, I'm like, how does anyone hit what that man is throwing? They, the middle of last season, were yanked off the field. And then over the weekend, Jeff Passon reported that indictments came out of Brooklyn, Because in what I believe to be the dumbest way possible, these two guys get caught because people are betting on individual pitches they are throwing. They're betting huge amounts. It's the easiest way to catch. You've heard Mike Ryan say that this is more regulated than it ever has been. And the reason these scandals are bigger than they ever have been is at least in part because all of this is being regulated so closely.

and some of the quote-unquote criminals we're going to do innocent until proven guilty even though the circumstantial evidence is damning. This is the most obvious way possible to get caught. Let me bet that a pitcher is going to throw a ball in this situation instead of a strike. And then Emmanuel Class A, whose control is impeccable, is throwing a ball straight into the dirt in front of the mound

and there's a huge amount of money being bet on that somewhere. when, you know, very few people are betting individual pitches to be a ball or a strike. It really is the dumbest way possible to do this and the easiest way to get caught. Exactly right. It is the dumbest possible thing, and I don't know where anyone thinks they can get away with that. But this scandal is not being treated like the NBA scandal. Why? I think it's just popularity.

Yeah, not as famous. It's all it is. I'm learning this person's name for the first time. I don't follow this point. But John T. Porter is not as good as his job as a major. my annual class A is. I'll talk about popularity in sport. No, but when, okay, I got it.

But when Jonte Porter was caught, and it was first, it was earlier, so maybe that has something to do with it. It was the first thing that arrived where it's like, wait a minute, a nobody player on the end of the bench is allowing unders to cash because he's leaving with an injury. This one, though, is especially dumb, and we enjoyed sort of dissecting how dumb some of the details were around the fixed poker game with Chauncey Billups. We enjoy the stupidity of Terry Rozier risking a salary that is, you know, $26 million a year. It's usually harder to get to the pros because they make so much money.

You're not offering them enough with a prop bet to make the risk worth it. The place that it is worth it and the place that I believe has the biggest problem, even though this is a problem. Rest assured, it's a problem. It's got the attention of Adam Silver. Adam Silver does not want this anywhere near his league. The place that it is the biggest problem is UFC because those people aren't being paid enough and the risk ends up being worth it when they're totally in control. The problem in UFC is those guys have been training so long on how to survive and win that they're very bad at losing and making it look like it's an accident.

They're bad at it. Like people who are watching UFC fighters throw fights can tell, wait a minute, that's remedial. He should be able to, this person is such a favorite that what is happening in that spot is something that, you know, a white belt in karate would be able to defend that better. They can't just fake taking a punch to the mouth and going down. These experts can look at it and say that doesn't look like it. It's fairly obvious. The one that happened most recently with UFC is super obvious, but also UFC, I would say, is just simply more susceptible to this. college basketball is another one college football i guess but college basketball is so

there are so few people that can control the result but in ufc you've got you've only got to get to one guy the crime the criminal only has to get to one guy who needs money and make it worth it to the one guy and the pay is so shitty in ufc that you that that is a huge that is a bigger problem than it is anywhere else in sports because you have one guy who can control the result And again, what I'm saying is the labor is paid so poorly that you can actually make it a tempting amount of money for a fighter because, I mean, some of these fighters are, they're working second jobs. You can hear stories of even champions because the pay is so shitty in UFC. To me, that is vastly more dangerous in terms of the structural integrity of the sport, but you're starting from a place where the sport doesn't have very much structural integrity. Boxing and the fighting games, you know, they're notoriously in the sewer and notoriously susceptible to this kind of stuff.

I feel like we could do it in tennis, too. Tennis, and that's why it usually happens in tennis. It happens a lot in tennis. I feel like tennis pretty easy. These scandals are, there was a massive one with Juventus in 06 before gambling was legalized here. Like, this is, really, it's as old as sports are gambling scandals around it. And probably some of the more effective ones ever in the largest in scale, you don't know about them. Oh, but Mike, hold on to say, the place I've got to stop you is that the money in sports is so giant with the salaries of athletes now.

You're talking about tennis. Tennis players are paid well. Tennis winners are paid very well. Even in UFC, the winners aren't paid that well. That's why Francis Nagano is going and doing boxing matches. Because even his heavyweight champion of the world, he's like, this isn't enough money. That's why John Jones isn't fighting as much as he could be, because he's like, this isn't enough money to be worth it for me. But in tennis, the checks are big.

UFC, no, man, those are not big. You can absolutely, and it's not a prop bet, it's not like, hey, in one game, can you go under here and walk off with an injury? in UFC, what you're talking about is, hey, as a favorite, this loss isn't actually going to cost you very much. Like, if you lose this fight, I can make it worth your time to lose this fight, and you can continue this as a career if you don't get caught. Don't you think it's legislated in part because the physical aspects of it, like, you know, going down on the fourth round means you get punched, you get knocked out. And also, it certainly interrupts your future.

earnings. In that league in particular, Dana is cruel. Oh, but you can have losses there and climb back out of losses. I mean, it's hard. It's not very often. I don't feel like it happens very often. It's hard to climb out, especially if you're on the undercard there. Like, Dana churns these fighters out. I don't agree with you there. I see all the time fighters fighting big fights with four and five and six losses. Losses happen in that sport. You can absolutely rebound from that. A couple, but like lower undercard guys? I don't think so. Okay, but that's not what we were talking about. What are you nodding your head at?

I'm kind of agreeing with Mike. A few losses in that sport, you're not getting big money fights anymore. The part that's crazy with Class A and Ortiz is that Class A had been apparently doing this for a couple of years. And then ultimately, he brought in Ortiz. He threw a couple of pitches that got flagged. And then right away, they were both suspended. So it was just because he wanted to get Ortiz a little taste. Come on, taste the taste of wetness.

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