The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Do The NBA's Ratings Matter?

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

To kick off this hour we go Behind The Bit about the history of the Hard Network Out, including reliving one of the most legendary moments in show history. Then, Dan wants to discuss what he calls the... greatest moment in the history of the Charlotte Hornets from last night and it leads us into a discussion about John Skipper's claim that NBA executives do not care about their ratings, so long as the value of their TV deals continue to triple. Plus, is burping the s*** out of a baby safe and is Jessica a better belcher than Stugotz? Finally, Tony introduces a new segment, but he doesn't want us to look at it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. This is Behind the Bit. This is Behind the Bit. This is Behind the Bit. We take you the bit. This is behind the bit. We take you back to a better time in the show's history, a time at least for me where I was happiest because we were at ESPN.
Starting point is 00:00:32 You're the old white guy columnist who always castigates the athlete. Getting older every day. For misbehaving and for urinating on sportsmanship, who always castigates the athlete for... Getting older every day. For... For misbehaving and for urinating on sportsmanship. Where, what side are you on in this? Well, I want to make two points. Number one, uh...
Starting point is 00:00:56 It's Dan, Stu, and Greg Cody on ESPN Radio. I mean, back in my day, I used to build sports. You know, Fortnite was nothing you stared at. It's something you built with your hands. Like, Man 101. It was. This was The Dan Levatar show on ESPM radio I would google my name and Coco He's Dan Stu and Greg Cody on ESPM radio Dan Campbell, man Campbell, oh Jimmy Johnson otherwise you never know
Starting point is 00:01:20 He's Dan Stu and Greg Cody on ESPM radio Please explain the Hard Network Out. Well, I've missed so many of them. Apparently I don't know what a Hard Network Out is. For some reason, the listeners seem to enjoy it when I miss a Hard Network Out. They all enjoy it. You know, but it doesn't happen intentionally.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Hard Network Out was born out of necessity. We had to adhere to network clocks with ESPN, which was truthfully a struggle for everybody. So we instituted a sounder that was just unavoidable because the time we had to break was unavoidable at the bottom of the hour. Nobody had a harder time with that concept than Greg. Oh boy. Greg is just oblivious to everything that's going on in that studio.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Dan and I noticed it early on. By the way, I will say this, Greg has been a breath of fresh air for our show. The audience loves him, the staff loves him, I love him, but he has no clue what the hell is happening and what we're doing every single Tuesday that he comes in. And so we noticed it and we thought it'd be funny to try to cut him off at a hard network out. We were still at ESPN, so we had to be out by a certain time at the end of every hour. And we figured Greg eventually would catch on to the fact that we're asking him questions
Starting point is 00:02:31 at the end of every hour with about four seconds to go on the clock. I made the imaging. I took a gold horn that the New York Allenders had in 1996, and then I spliced it together with Papi. It's Dan, Stu, and Greg Cody on ESPN radio. And there you have the imaging for the heart network out. Has Greg ever asked you guys like, why you keep cutting me off? He still doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:02:56 No, he keeps talking through them. He's taking advantage of an old man. I think at one point Dan wore a clock on his head and Greg still didn't know. That's why he undersells when he says, we noticed that Greg Cody was oblivious. This is us working around the general incompetence of Greg Cody at all times. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:15 He doesn't know what time in the show we are, even if I'm wearing a clock that says so on a baseball cap. Eventually it got so bad that we're like, okay, we're just going to make this a joke and we're going to see how we can trick him into tripping over this finish line. And it's never once been faked. Everyone thinks that some of them are so perfect
Starting point is 00:03:39 that we must have maneuvered him into position with him acting with us. Never, it's never fake. To me, the Hard Network Out is just, it kind of encapsulates my dad on this show in one bit because it's something that the audience has always thought is fake, but it's just my dad not really getting
Starting point is 00:03:56 what we're doing around here. And that's why he's one of, I think, the best, even more than Stugats, the best character on our show, because it's not a character. Because I just feel like it is such a good example of you on this show. Like you are just, you're yourself. You're not a character. You're not going to learn.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Even after the 12th time we've gotten you in six months, you're just going to show up next week and you're going to forget about it again. And it's a beautiful thing. Never, Dan would wear a hat with the clock counting down. He would be looking straight at Greg with a countdown clock that would go to zero. He would complain that the clock wasn't anywhere that he could see it. And even when we removed all of those excuses,
Starting point is 00:04:34 he'll just never change those things. It'd be weird for him to all of a sudden grasp it now, right? No, I know there was a countdown clock even now, but I'm looking at someone I'm talking to. You have to be able to multitask. And the clock is up there. Yeah, it's a lot to do. And I'm looking at people, I'm looking at eye level, I'm never going like that and looking
Starting point is 00:04:56 at a clock. You can tell, it's very difficult. Look, I've never worn a watch. I don't use my iPhone as a clock. I don't care what time it is. The group Chicago said, does anybody really know what time it is? I know, but I don't really care. We told you repeatedly to go to the doctor. You ignored us. You finally went to the doctor and the results of your visit to the doctor were,
Starting point is 00:05:22 were what? Yeah. After several tests, tests, they found a tumor in my chest. Is Dan, Stu, and Greg Cody on ESPN Radio? I don't particularly enjoy the hard network. I asked that question. I left them about three seconds. Three seconds to answer a serious question about a visit to the doctor and a tumor. We can't do better than that. Comedically, we can't do better than tumor and then him starting the next thought with,
Starting point is 00:05:53 ah, and then just a foghorn all of a sudden. That was perfect. Perfect, yes, perfect execution. We knew as soon as that happened that that's as well as that bit of incompetence can be done. You want like one, one and a half words to come out and then boom. Yes, one, one and a half.
Starting point is 00:06:09 If one of the words is tumor, just a couple of syllables, one of them's tumor, you've got comedic gold. What makes that great is we are talking, I think it's the only time we've done this, about such a sensitive topic. That's right. We had genuine concern and then immediate laughter in his face, braying laughter.
Starting point is 00:06:25 About a tumor. When they did a hard network out on me describing the most major surgery I've ever had in my life, that one I had to laugh at because it's just so absurd. And that one told me that if they're going to do a hard network out on me for that, nothing is off limits. You know, it's all about the show first, because you know, I'm talking about a major, big fist sized tumor being removed from my check and brrr. Benign tumor, benign for everyone else.
Starting point is 00:06:54 It was benign, yes, he's fine. Chris, were you there for the Hard Network Out, the tumor was? Yes, that was a rare Dan was out. Like we rarely have like show historic moments when Dan's out. And that was one of them. Stu Gotts driving the show, walking you right into it. That is just an all-timer,
Starting point is 00:07:11 because that was a scary time for us. Was that pre-surgery? Was that when you had the tumor still in you? I'm trying to think back. No, I think that was after my surgery. You had the surgery, so we were feeling better about his health then, but I just remember late in that minute,
Starting point is 00:07:27 like late in that segment of like, oh God, Stu got to starting this topic. And it was just like all of our eyes, all of us in the back, we got a combination of excited that, oh my God, this is gonna be an epic hard network out and a little combination of, I hope my dad is fine with this
Starting point is 00:07:41 because it's a very sensitive subject. Yeah, well, I had to laugh at it, of all because I was feeling euphoric relief because it was major surgery and you know a week or two before that my wife and I are sitting in an oncologist's office finding out test results whether or not the tumor right in the middle of my chest was cancerous or not. I was terrified. And it was benign, and the surgery went well. And that was probably my first time on the show after the surgery.
Starting point is 00:08:10 So I would find. Probably would have gone differently if it wasn't benign. We probably would have spared you the heart and it worked out. I'd like to think so. But with this show, you never know. It's Dan, Stu, and Corry on ESPN Radio. Folks, did you know that sleep is one of the most important parts of recovery?
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Starting point is 00:09:29 Don Lebatard. You don't remember the idea for a home run call? I was probably like, that kinda thing. Something? Okay, no, the home run call was that kinda swing, that kinda thing. Stugats. Oh, it's a good call.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Thank you. And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it like you're not tailored to a particular aim you know all that jazz you know you don't do that you know that all that would be a great call uh... swing that kind of thing this is the down labor car show with this to god's
Starting point is 00:10:13 This episode of the Dan Lobatow Show with Sagatsen is presented by Venmo. I have to admit here publicly that I am a little concerned at the general amount of Greg Cody fuel gasoline that we have pumped into the greg cody vehicle today because he was just staring at that all a segment about me he has never been so engaged for two hours of the show because of how self involved the first two hours of this show it did we've neglected to mention in a wondrous and wild greg cody thursday that last night quietly while many of you were sleeping the charlotte hornets had the single greatest play game
Starting point is 00:10:48 that they have had in their history. They beat the Lakers on the road. They beat Luca, they beat LeBron. I know I'm informing you, many of you, of this. Basketball is back. The second half started, huh? It is the single biggest moment in the history of Charlotte Hornets basketball,
Starting point is 00:11:05 not because it was a big moment, but because the Charlotte Hornets haven't done anything meaningful and they won on the road yesterday against LeBron and Luca. Uh-oh, that's not great. That's not great after all the attention that trade got. All of a sudden you look up, oh, we can't play defense,
Starting point is 00:11:22 but we did in this game and LaMelo Ball just beat us with 100 points at home, because Luca was one for nine from three. Five of 18 overall. I did watch the game, and actually Mark Williams, really good grip for the Hornets. He did. Yes. LeBron dunked on him, though.
Starting point is 00:11:38 That is good analysis, all of it. Everything you guys just said, and Charlotte wins at the end, LeBron loses, that's not good. That's not, at home to Charlotte. You know, it's, Lucas still trying to get the wheels greased. You know, obviously he had the calf injury, still not 100% right, five for 18 is tough.
Starting point is 00:11:55 He's still trying to get used to a new offense. Tony, this is a 14th win, 14th win for Charlotte. It's not great, it's not great. Lakers had a seven game home win streak snapped. They were playing well too, yeah. But you you know what and the real winner is we're talking about regular season nba basketball games again after the show has been declaring the nba is dead for the last ten days so nba season back nba back the show watching regular season basketball. Jessica thank you for mentioning the part about ratings because if
Starting point is 00:12:22 you've been listening at all to the sporting class where Pablo Torre leads John Skipper and David Sampson to basically give you all of the sports business secrets, like super secret stuff that people generally don't know you can find on that podcast. And it's one of the reasons that I say David Sampson has gotten so good at the public talking of business soon. Since yesterday, we flew in Darren Revelle yesterday to have a business off with David Sampson that we're gonna have in today's show
Starting point is 00:12:52 because David Sampson maintains that he is more famous than Darren Revelle and more credible in the business world than Darren Revelle. So we're gonna pit them against each other here at some point in the last two hours of this show. But on the Sport class podcast the thing that skipper keeps saying that I think is somehow being missed throughout the entire country on the business of basketball when we're having this conversation about ratings slipping in
Starting point is 00:13:19 basketball they don't matter the guaranteed money that NBA now has, it doesn't matter if you watch or not. The business of it doesn't need your eyeballs. You can say the sport is dying, but that's become a social media sport. People are still consuming it. They might not be consuming it at the minute that you want them to and that might hurt the next contract, but what they're getting now, those arenas can be empty. Like they've got their money. It doesn't matter whether they play,
Starting point is 00:13:51 whether load management, whether the All-Star game, television needs the content. They, despite the ratings decline, have gotten all the television money because all of these rich people are competing for, I need to televise this, whether people are watching it or not it literally doesn't matter to the business of this whether anyone is watching it when it's televised well it
Starting point is 00:14:13 doesn't matter to the NBA you're right it does matter to the people who are paying those bills I mean who are trying to monetize but the business of it gets the guarantee money the money's so we spend so much time talking about the ratings and the ratings don't hurt the business in any gets the guarantee. I understand, right. So we spend so much time talking about the ratings, and the ratings don't hurt the business in any way. The money's all guaranteed. But eventually it's going to hurt that business. I thought it would now.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Weren't the ratings just going down? And then the business of it opens up, and there are unbelievable amounts of money for the business of basketball. The ratings go down by, you know, 5% or whatever it is from last year, but we still spend the entire week of the Super Bowl talking about the biggest NBA trade ever. So I mean... But I'm not talking about the NBA.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I'm talking about the next rights deal, which is, I don't know when that... In a long time. I understand that, but eventually what's going on right now, and the horrible job that Adam Silver has done, is going to impact the bottom line for the nbc and why you would think you're better at business that adam silver i'm telling you say that i'm not but still got everyone thinks that this was going to be the contract when that happened because the ratings were going down and what happened
Starting point is 00:15:20 when when amazon and nbc still got the amount of money you guys see what's happening i think you see what's happening you see netflix has a special on basketball patriotism that has kevin durant crying you have on hb o we beat the dream team a documentary that's running about all of the college players that uh... beat the dream team in a game it's a good documentary there's so many good stories in there of just that Mike Shashefsky is claiming that Chuck Daly threw the game by not letting Michael Jordan play and so it's Christian Leitner that's out there for the Dream Team against Chris Weber and
Starting point is 00:15:58 stuff and Mike Shashefsky is denying Chris Weber, Grant Hill what was a lifetime achievement by saying he threw the game, Chuck Daly threw the game, and Grant Hill goes to confront him. Coach K, it's a great documentary. The business of that sport is now, with the television partnership it needs, to sell that sport as a social media sport in the new age, to get listeners with Mr. Beast and viewers with Mr. Beast, but it's a social media sport in the new age to get listeners with mister beast and viewers with mister bs
Starting point is 00:16:26 but it's a social media sport now you don't have to be watching late night television right now at the appointed time in order for late night television to be successful because it's traveling through your social media feed basketball is in the new age of what this is and they have all the money in the world to figure out something in eight years that i thought would already arrive here. Because if they were gonna be affected by it,
Starting point is 00:16:47 it was gonna be after the bubble, after Kyrie Irving, during load management, and it didn't affect it at all, Stu. They got monster dollars because if it's Bezos competing against Netflix for we need the content, there's a never-ending stream of money that makes the customer irrelevant. Like it makes you and me, the media, irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:17:08 They don't need us. They just go into business together and we just become collateral damage on what the business of it is because they've already got the guaranteed money. It's been fascinating to listen to John Skipper and Sampson tell fans again and again here, you don't matter. And I don't understand why the media
Starting point is 00:17:24 keeps talking about ratings. I think part of this conversation is the women's professional basketball league new in Miami here unrivaled, which is essentially a made for TV league that doesn't worry much about fans at all. They let 850 fans max at every game. They're there for background. They're there as window dressing. They don't need that league does not need the fans because they have TV. No league does. No league does. You can play
Starting point is 00:17:49 in empty stadiums. They did during the pandemic. Like I know you prefer they prefer the concessions. They prefer to have arenas filled with people, but the televised product is more important than the in-person product. And you've seen this for a decade. It's more fun, easier to watch it at home than it is to brave the parking like it's it's the new age of getting disconnected from your sports team while you think you're more connected to it than you've ever been. No, you make I mean they're all great points.
Starting point is 00:18:15 You know, I I found out about the Laker game last night because on social media. I saw the Brahm is two chances to tie the game up and so and that's all I needed to see like I I don't care about the first 197 points. I don't care about Mark Williams. I care about what happened at the end. And what happened at the end is at my disposal, whatever I want, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:34 I do think like there's a middle ground between the fans don't matter and the fans don't care, which is like, I think that like, if we did have empty arenas again, like during COVID, like totally empty, no environment, no experience, like nothing. I think people watching the televised product would probably say that it's not as interesting when there's no one there. So there's stuff like the fans matter, but I think we're only talking about like marginal decreases that in the grand scheme of how important basketball is to like our just everyday like culture, sports
Starting point is 00:19:07 culture like it's not going to just disappear because people don't watch the All-Star game. You say this though and I would ask you if the ratings are lower when the fans are in the building than they were during the pandemic because the ratings keep getting lower and if the whole construct of the business is just we need to have the programming i'd just need the play i don't even need the star players to play i just need to know that at this night i can play my commercials are or do whatever it is that i'm trying to get your subscriptions because we've got the games that night and that's the three hours that we've got i'd like for you guys to hear john skipper and david samson explain this
Starting point is 00:19:44 to you with more expertise than I can offer But they've been saying this for years that the fan become the customer becomes less and less relevant Whether or not they're actually watching what my view is. They are ascendant the deals They just did are much much more important than whatever the regular season ratings are. We're back to people thinking the ratings are some dramatic indication of the health of the league. The ratings this year for the NBA are up and down.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I think overall, other than the Christmas games, they're down a little bit. But so what? I mean, Adam has to address it, but his league couldn't be more healthy. He just signed, what was it, $76 billion worth of deals. Triple what they got before. If you could ask any owner, the commissioner, anybody associated with the NBA, would you rather have the ratings go up 20% or the media rights go up 300%? They would say, I'll take the 300% increase in media rights.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And I think the league was worth it I think the league is fine. Adam has to answer those questions, but the league is fine People are watching the games people care. So I think the league is in excellent shape. They had to deal with this I don't think the fact that the ratings are down 3% for one Sunday or up 2% for one Sunday is particularly relevant The Dan Levitard show with StuGots is sponsored by BetterHelp. We talk a lot about red flags, the warning signs that tell us to stay away from toxic relationships. But what if we spent more time looking for green flags?
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Starting point is 00:23:14 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Don LeBretard. I heard that as a woman faking pain. I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't, you know. It was not fake. It was in no way fake. You can spot a woman faking pain. I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't, you know. It was not fake. It was in no way fake. You can spot a woman faking it. Stugats. Yes, I can, Jess. Expert. I've been married 40 years. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. By the way, I don't know if you guys have a lead cast, but it is electric. You watch the entire in stadium entertainment experience from your couch.
Starting point is 00:23:52 You see the people doing like weird show, talent show things at halftime. You see people doing like finish the lyrics. It's the greatest thing of all time. There's just no commercials. You're just watching people inside MSG or whatever arena doing dumb shit. And it's great, and then there's basketball. I love it, it's worth every penny. Is it as good as Tony's new segment, Don't Look Now?
Starting point is 00:24:15 Is it as entertaining? Oh wow, you were ready in that moment to do Don't Look Now. Are you looking at me? Before we do Don't Look Now, and I'm not looking at you right now. I am. I want to... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha into sexual harassment here with Tony in a way that's not comfortable. I do declare everything's fine. Chris Cody whispered to me, thank you for telling us
Starting point is 00:24:48 who you were impersonating there, Skip. He just whispered in my ear that John Skipper was wearing a $20,000 turtleneck. At least. That thing looked nice. Beautiful. Cashmere, I mean. What do you guys do with the information?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Just, do you think the audience knows, feels, based on the perception of that league and how it is it's covered and being reported and everyone's fixing the league? Do you think that the average person listening to this understands that for all the hand-wringing about the NBA being too woke and being in ratings decline, that the important fact that John Skipper just gave there was that the
Starting point is 00:25:26 tb writes during a time of great consternation tripled tripled we're talking about a league as if it doesn't have value when the tb writes during a difficult time triple it has value from a business standpoint, because there are multiple bidders who want to get into this game. That I understand.
Starting point is 00:25:49 It doesn't mean the product's any better. I care about the product. The NBA is not something that I look forward to like I used to. It's just, it's not. Okay, there are a lot of people doing that one, and I understand why a lot of people are doing that one. There are a lot of reasons for that that include there are so much sports going on right now that you're only going to give your attention to some of the places because you can't put it anywhere there are
Starting point is 00:26:10 thousand reasons for why all that is so about the nb a they do have a perception problem there too many people talking about what a bad league it is and it includes the people who are charles barkley and steven a smith and all the people who are voices for these partnerships who have turned on the sport it dream on green in the middle of it telling you that it's boring like i'm not saying that people are verbalizing that this is a problem but when your business has a problem that is people talking and business has the gain of triple the t v rights
Starting point is 00:26:40 you're just covering it it's chris cody's theory of yes it matters i am willing to use your watch zion williamson shoe explodes it's just attention doesn't matter how you get the attention basketball getting the attention even if it's bad attention but but the two least watched and lowest rated all-star games in the nba history were the one from last weekend and the one before that is adam silver not supposed to be concerned about that just doesn't matter is what I'm saying okay so so Adam Silver is like he got triple. He can be concerned about it and then he can go and drink you know a very nice wine with all of the money he gets from the owners because he's running their business very well with great concern he can drink the most expensive wine you've ever seen in your life. I just find like overreacting about the All-Star game to be just like why are we doing that? We do it every year and like it just doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Like I don't understand why the show did this for the last week. No but see this is something that- Because Mike doesn't watch the NBA anymore? I don't know. He's not the only one doing it though. This is the language around that entire league right now. Like he's not the only one doing it ever as content it was the easiest thing in the world over the last week to both fix basketball and fix the all-star game
Starting point is 00:27:53 it's the laziest possible thing and everybody was doing it it doesn't matter what Dan is saying is it doesn't matter that I've stopped watching or Mike stop watching they got their money and it's guaranteed and beyond that let's play let's play this sound here. They have nine years to figure it out. If the Heat were good this year we'd be talking about how it's the greatest league in the whole world. Well perhaps but we also have the added element of a former Heat player in Tim Hardaway doing one of the things that we love about the league which is just call Jimmy Butler a crybaby and we'll make content out of it for days. I didn't agree with what he was doing. You're under contract. You're a baby. You know, you're a crybaby because they said no to you.
Starting point is 00:28:34 We used to get said no to us all the time and we used to know how to take it. It is what it is. It's a question, you get a yes or a no. You might not like the question, but you can't deviate and mess up the team. right. They said no we want to see you play more games We don't want to be in the playing games if you saw if he played more games I would have never been in the playing games both years even though they went to the championship
Starting point is 00:28:57 They never would have been in the playing games that takes a lot out of you They want to say look we want a week off That takes a lot out of you. They want to say look we want a week off We want a week to prepare and we need that week because we play hard each and every game and we need to rest All right, so he wasn't willing to do that He was will and I and I fought them for letting him get away with a bunch of stuff, too You know you got nipping in the bud when he went out to spolstered tolls bolster he kick his butt at a timeout and they had to take another timeout because you don't have some was certainly more how do you know that that that that should have been
Starting point is 00:29:34 like you know you get three to five games you don't talk to the coast like that you don't disrespect the coach like that tony as a new father can you please answer this question and put on the pole juju at lebatard show is crybaby redundant Tony, as a new father, can you please answer this question and put it on the poll, Juju, at LeBittard Show. Is crybaby redundant? Huh? Yes. What about poop baby?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Also redundant. I don't think so. I don't think crybaby's redundant. There's plenty of quiet babies. You have such a great baby, I've never heard him cry. You know. You haven't spent the whole night with him, that's why. Tim Hardaway just changed it from he's a baby to crybaby,
Starting point is 00:30:06 and I thought those were the same thing. I thought those were the same insult. Is crybaby worse than baby, calling him a baby? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Active crying kind of. Crybaby's a bad baby. Yes, bad baby. But don't you think when he calls him a baby
Starting point is 00:30:18 the first time that he wasn't calling him a good baby? When he calls... Crybaby is necessary. Crybaby really hammers it home you know that i thought maybe a baby driver well maybe lando yeah that's that's difficult tim hardaway was right by the way it he sounded like an old player
Starting point is 00:30:38 criticizing a young player about we don't have to do the day and my conversation i just wanted to do crybaby i just i thought that's all i was right away right baby is necessary but what is the difference between a baby in a cry baby i thought a baby is also capable like so if the original baby is crying then it becomes a crying well not all babies cry what he said about the same as a whimpering baby he's already writing which is the worst kind of baby. When he calls Jimmy Butler a baby. He's saying he's soft. He whimpers. He's weak. That's the insult. He cries. That's what we're asking here is what does it mean when you call me just a baby? We all know if you call me a crybaby, I'm crying. What does it mean if you just call me a baby?
Starting point is 00:31:20 You're just acting like an infant without the crying. I'm with Dan though. If you call me a baby, I'm taking it as a crybaby. As a new father, I think what Timmy should have said was you're a colicky baby. Cause that's the issue. The colicky baby is now- Lee calls me that all the time when I'm fussy. Really? Okay, well now you know. Now you know what?
Starting point is 00:31:37 Uncontrollable crying for six hours. I give you the day, it doesn't work. I give you your mom, it doesn't work. I give you your leg, it doesn't work. I put you on the, it doesn't work. I put you in the swing, it doesn't work. You keep you your mom, it doesn't work. I give you legend, it doesn't work. I put you under the, it doesn't work. I put you in the swing, it doesn't work. You keep crying, you keep crying. That's all you do is cry.
Starting point is 00:31:48 How's your burp game? My burp game was strong. I could burp the shit out of that baby. It's been good, but now they have a new thing where you gotta put them on the knee and then you gotta put, like lean her over and then kind of do that one. But she's fucking around like a bronco
Starting point is 00:32:00 and I can't get her. Her mom's pissed because I'm doing it wrong? What do you want me to do? It's always mom over there, she's trying to do it. It's like give her give her to me. She'll burp come here Burping the shit out of a baby sounds like an issue. That sounds wrong. Yes Yeah, it sounds like put it on the pole. Please that levitard show Are you doing it wrong if you're burping the shit out of a baby? Yes, sounds like you're hurting the baby Yes, it's what sounds like you're burping it so much to acquire the shit that you are. Sometimes that's a good thing, Dan,
Starting point is 00:32:25 because sometimes those babies, they're pushing, pushing, pushing, they got liquidy poop. They're pushing hard. It's not like, you know, they got something big in there. All of a sudden it comes out and finally relax. That's what diapers are for. Exactly. When I heard the question, how was your burp game,
Starting point is 00:32:40 I'm not gonna reveal my sources on this because this is journalism around here, but before the show started in an intimate setting with me and Stugatz, Stugatz burped very loudly in front of a fellow employee and then said, I'm sorry in a way that was totally insincere. That's not fair. Shocking he apologized.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I'm sorry about walking away. Just belched and it stunk like bacon. Like it was just, it was foul. Ooh, that's good, a bacon belch. I had a piece of bacon that was stuck to another piece of bacon. Yeah, if you're gonna belch at me, make it a bacon belch.
Starting point is 00:33:11 But the thing that I was shocked by is that I was told that we have a better and more public belcher than Stugatz in our company today. And I don't think that people know that that is Jessica. I believe, I'm not going to reveal, I'm not going to reveal any sources, any betrayals, anything of the kind, but I have been told that our most prodigious belcher
Starting point is 00:33:36 is Jessica, and I've never seen that, or heard it, or smelled it. I mean, you guys sit by me every day. I don't burp, right? I never heard you burp once. No, no, never happened. It's always Roy, actually. I don't burp right never heard you burp. No no never happened It's always Roy actually what when Roy's not here is Jeremy. I mean Jess. I was sitting right here with Dan I heard from the same source, so
Starting point is 00:33:53 I'll say it she burps You're brave Chris Chris that was an act of bravery I burp constantly. Yes, she does. She absolutely does. I don't hold back, all right? So what? Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Sorry, I'm not gonna give up garlic, so I stop burping, Dan Levitard. It's my freedom of burp back here. She generally says- I don't know if I can burp. She generally says, excuse me. Wow. Tony said it. Listen to Tony. You. Listen to Tony.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You're right, Tony. Thank you. You're right, her body, her choice. You're correct. Let him fly. Dan, do you burp? He doesn't do anything, he has no release. That hair's gotta go somewhere.
Starting point is 00:34:37 It's gotta go somewhere, buddy. Again, you guys are misinforming the public. It's not that I cannot burp or fart. It's that if I burp or fart, my body has consumed something it should not consume. I am not a repressed orb of farts that cannot escape. A hard work. Or burps that cannot, no, I'm not a hard work.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I'm not a hard-working pig. No, I'm not a hard-working pig. I'm a proud pig. Stop misrepresenting me. I'm a sleep fart. I was just informed of that the other day to my mortification. And it's after I've eaten in restaurants where they've lied to me about the ingredients. Cause I'm like, no dairy, no gluten, I need vegan cheese,
Starting point is 00:35:28 I need garlic and no paprika, and I need to make sure there's no turmeric. Yes, just pecans and occasionally some academia nuts. Had the conversation go when your wife revealed to you that you're a sleepwalker. Embarrassing. It was embarrassing to me. I was like, I wasn't even know, I'm like... Did she have it on tape? Like audio evidence? Because my wife did that to me. She was, I wasn't even, I'm like. Did she have it on tape? Like audio evidence? Because my wife did that to me when I was in a snoring thing. She took audio of me snoring.
Starting point is 00:35:51 It's pretty bad to listen to. Do you ever record her? I have not, but I should. She snored like a lumberjack, that one. Wow. I mean, let's not get started on that. My wife has started just leaving the room. I'll wake up in the middle of the night, my wife's gone.
Starting point is 00:36:05 She's in the guest room because of my snoring. Yeah. And probably you're farting too. Not a great feeling. You know why I burp in? It's like my love, where are you? Oh, the bed's empty. She left me.
Starting point is 00:36:14 That's the best feeling, by the way. I can just feel the anger. I can feel the resentment. Even though she's not there, I'm like, yeah, but I still feel the resentment though. Waking up and there's no one next to you, you can stretch out. Underrated feeling.
Starting point is 00:36:24 The reason I burp is because I eat too fast. And I know it's my problem and I can't control it. I just, when I see food, I want to eat it really quickly. And then I burp for like 10 minutes and then I stop burping. 10 minutes? I am sorry if I publicly outed you with sources and journalism. No, everyone knows this about me. If you've ever met me, you know I burp.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Everyone in the family knows that my grandma actually burps the worst and it sort of has been passed down through the generations still she still is a prodigious burp in her eighties prodigious is an understatement so you look it's an heirloom passed down in the family exactly are you able to think she's passed out are you are you able to manufacture a burp like can you burp on cue not a good one no like what's an example of your burp is it is it a dainty quiet? No, or is it like really loud guys? It's aggressive powerful. I'd say so belch a belch Let's do don't look now. I don't I don't know why Tony took his blindfold off. I am NOT looking anymore
Starting point is 00:37:21 We weren't talking about don't look now now. We're talking about don't look now. I have my blood alright Let's do we have music do we have imaging? What are we doing with this? It's time for a new game Don't look now. It's presented by Smirnoff the world's number one vodka, please drink responsibly Alright guys, just like we did last week. Nobody is supposed to look Greg. Stop looking Dan already knows not to look He should not be looking Stu. You can look around but don't look too much. Okay, I can't stop looking. All right. Here's the thing Don't look now. I don't know if you saw this. I was not looking but I saw Aiden Hudson running full speed. That's a good thing broke his leg. All the sudden. He's back
Starting point is 00:37:59 He's running ready to get locked in for next year That's right for a hopeful Super Bowl run for the Detroit Lions. But I'm looking at it here. Aiden Hutchinson says, if you pair me and Myles Garrett, that could be deadly. Don't look now, but the Lions getting another edge rusher. Aiden Hutchinson on one side, Myles Garrett on the other side.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Dan, is that deadly? I mean, good God. It's a different game. Don't look, don't look. It's a different game. He's gonna look. I'm not looking right now, but I would ask you, and I would assume, I haven't seen the reporting on this,
Starting point is 00:38:29 I would simply assume that that's gonna cost three or four first round picks, is it not? Like that's not, you're not gonna get that for two firsts, are you? They don't wanna get rid of him at all, so who knows? But what would that cost? Like if I give you right now. I would imagine three.
Starting point is 00:38:42 If I give you Miles Garrett pass rusher, am I not bringing back more than I am for anybody but a quarterback? Yeah, but if you're looking they'll probably give you the fourth one So you got to not look get three or if you look they'll give you four Greg Cody Do you have any expert opinions on this as a football expert? I think you could get him for two first-round picks and a and a starting caliber player keep in mind He's almost 30 years old. I mean he's still great, but he's not in his prime getting better great. I mean he's gonna plateau.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I don't think. Well what age does that happen? Like what would remain? Can you guys answer for me? 31, 32. I looked, I looked, I'm sorry. You can't look. I'm imagining the Lions using the Luka deal as negotiating like look what they think they got Luca for this I mean we can three first rounds you're crazy look they got this for Luca. They only did one first round pick He won't get three first-round picks mark my words
Starting point is 00:39:34 Why are we marking that because they you know they're out there you mark them you see on it Why are you wearing sunglasses right now? Try to mark these words without I don't want to look. I don't want to look at them. I'm going to try to mark these words without looking. I said don't look now. I'm not looking now. You can still look with sunglasses though you're looking right at him. Marking these words. I don't see you right now. Your eyes are wide open. I see that your eyes are wide open. These sunglasses are jet black. My wife says these are women's sunglasses. I have no idea if they are or not. But I can't see anything. It's pitch black. He's 29. I don't believe that he has fallen out of his prime. Uh, but what age is the prime?
Starting point is 00:40:10 26, 27 position. Probably. Yeah, probably 27, eight. He's passed his broad. So you have him, you think he's, he's going to only get worse from here is what you're saying. Yeah. I'm saying that if he attracts three first round draft picks, I'll put that bowling ball right up my ass. Wow, don't look now.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Don't look now, but that bowling ball. Don't look now, Greg Cody says, if the Lions get Miles Garrett. He stopped trying. He has- He had a great start. He has stopped caring that he's on the air. He has stopped caring that this is televised on Peacock and Max and he's just-
Starting point is 00:40:53 It's an adult show. His body, his choice. I've never wanted that trade to happen more. We're gonna televised that. Now he's on the record, he has publicly stated that if Miles Garrett gets 33, clip that so that we have it so he has to pay that Venmo fine of surgically having that 16 pound purple bowling ball shoved up his ass.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I misspoke, I meant a cue ball. Oh, still. Big difference. Yeah, I mean still, but- That's a walk in the park. Exactly. Compared to that. Really.
Starting point is 00:41:24 All right, everybody, don't look down. He had 14 sacks last year I got another one okay don't look now but the Minnesota Vikings have until March 4th to franchise tag Sam Darnold what do we happen oh tick tock played played well you got JJ McCarthy there you have something else. Don't look now. A second don't look now. Dan Leventhaler, don't look. Could we see Aaron Rodgers following the Brett Farr formula of Green Bay, New York, all of a sudden ending up in Minnesota?
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