The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Easiest Thing to Keister (feat. Jessica Smetana)

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

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It's the Don LeBattor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. We are straight to the guest line and we've got Jessica Smetana from New York City. Hey Jessica, how's it going? It's going great. Why are we doing this voice? We're doing a 20s radio. Oh yes, of course, transatlantic. Should we talk about filet mignon again? Yeah. I agree with Zasla.

I was very fond of a lot of meat. And if you eat it, you might turn into a woman. Or worse, a gay man. Ha ha ha. Here's the thing, though. Let me reiterate. I love filet mignon. I think there's nothing wrong with it.

Be careful, buddy. I was told. I careful, buddy. Don't eat too much. I was told this. Yeah. He's a meat ally. My ally. My ally. All about the bone, this one.

Order a raw porterhouse like a man and throw the filet out. And eat it with your hands, right? Don't cook it. Bare hands, raw. Jessica, poke it. With your hands. Raw. Jessica, a lot to talk about today. There's a particular new story that we haven't gotten to, but really raise your eyebrow.

It happens all the time. Can I guess what it is? Yeah, sure. Yes, guess what's in the preview right now. Oh, I can't see the preview, but I'm guessing it's the dildo. It's the dildo. I'm glad we blurred it out, because I can't tell what preview, but I'm guessing it's the dildo. It's the dildo. What? Yep.

I'm glad we blurred it out, because I can't tell what it is. It could be anything. That's a dildo? Someone threw a dildo on the court at the Valkyrie dream game last night in Atlanta. And it was like the final minute of a close game, right? Yes, correct.

Don't you have to go through like detectors when you get into these arenas? Do you think that somebody was hiding it? Where do you think he was hiding it? Do you think that somebody was just like, oh yeah, it's totally right? Where do you think he was hiding it? I didn't know it was a heat. Also, dildos, metal? No.

Well, there is a bag policy. I don't know what the specific bag policy of this arena is, but I imagine. So you're either holding it out in the open, you've got it somewhere in your person where it kind of sticks out, you know, maybe. Clear bag. In the crotch area, you're trying to get the looks.

Yeah, what if you do it down your pants, down the side, and leg? Seems like the easiest thing to keister. Keister, why are you keistering? You don't have to do that. Just put it right there on a thigh, and be like, hey man, what do you want from me? Someone just catches the imprint, they're like, whoa.

It's practical use. No, but if you're keistering it. Nah, but then when you throw it, it's got all types of... Yeah. Debris. It is the more broad wave, just not the more efficient way. I like this is our angle, like how do they smuggle it in? How? If it's not metal, you can just bring it in, right?

Did you just ask Jessica how they smuggled it in? Sure, she's on the story. I have theories, I mean, so when you go to a professional sporting event, most of them you can only bring in like a small rectangular belt bag now or you need a clear bag at some arenas or you just shove stuff in your pockets. Like I always, whenever I go to a game, I'm like, I have got like lip gloss in my back pocket, phone in my front pocket, keys in my other bag. Like I'm just like, just carrying it all in on my body.

But yes, I mean, to your point, they must've had to cram it into a smaller bag that security didn't look at, I suppose. Hold on, I've got a theory, I've got a crazy theory. Perhaps it's a bold take. What if they didn't try to hide it at all? Yeah, it's in my clear plastic bag. What's my dildo?

Like what, this whole thing? It's not metal. Yeah, like I have a hard time believing on the list of things, you know, there's a sign outside the building, cannot bring in? It's not metal. Yeah, like I have a hard time believing on the list of things, you know, there's a sign outside the building that you cannot bring in alcohol, cannot bring firearms.

The things with the circle and the line through it. It definitely doesn't say, can't bring in dildos. No. How did they smuggle it into the Bills game a few years ago? Remember when that happened? They do that all the time though. It feels like every year somebody's throwing a dildo at a Bills game.

Is there a message that comes with throwing the dildo onto the floor or is it just a, ha, look, it just a half look at the fake penis? Ah, you know what, that's a good question. I'm gonna look up the meaning of dildo. Like, because especially at a women's basketball game, right? This game sucks.

Boom, dildo. I guess we're- Here's a dildo. We're a step closer to equality. Because dildos are flying. Also, the choice of color Line green right that's gonna show up on TV. Yeah, what I'm going with flush Maybe maybe you know how like it's it's a thing back in the day where if a comedian is bad like you throw lettuce at them Or you throw like a tomato at that far back in the day. It's back in the day

Like it's impossible if it's a terrible game, you throw dildos? Is that what's happening there? Well, to your point, it was a good game. Yeah, it was a good game. The Dream are a top three or four team this season. The Valkyries, this is their first season in the WNBA, but they've been very good, very underrated, I guess you could say.

So it was a tie game. It was close, and this caused a pretty long delay. I was watching the game and I saw something flash by. A long delay? Hold on, did it hit a drink? I think they were trying to figure out who threw it. I think it might've, like I saw one post-game interview and the players were like,

well it almost hit someone on the team. So I think they were trying to kick the person out. You're just gonna pick it up? Right, yeah, I don't know also whose job is it to touch it. I wouldn't want that. What if they were just returning it to somebody and just the person didn't catch it? Hey, here's your dildo.

Or even worse, what if someone, I don't know if you guys saw this other video, Yankees-Fillies game and there's a couple on the upper deck. Oh, I saw it. I saw this. Going to town and I'm thinking, well maybe we got a situation here where someone got a little too exuberant. It's like, yeah, let's have some fun. As you saw that. Whoa, it's on the floor.

It's on the floor. Whoa. Juggling the whole way down. Packy term. With the pizza. The punishment should be if you throw that on the court, they make you, they find who it is before they start the game up again, and they make you go down in front of everyone and pick it up and then walk the shame out of the arena. You pause very slowly after go down. Oh, then they make you go down like, ah! I'm with Izzy. I think that someone was just trying to return it

to a friend and overthrew it. Here you go. Hey man, over here. Catch. Got them borrowing that, like sugar? Like they text each other early in the day, hey, when can I give this back to you? I'm gonna be at the game tonight me too What if it's a beer guy got your head fresh?

Maybe cuz there used to be a Marlin at the Marlins game a guy would sell peanuts and the way to get the money so what peanuts and The way that he would toss you the pit of peanuts. The guy with the big elephant. Yes. Oh no, that's the beer guy. That's a different guy. That's the beer guy. It was the guy with the fake glasses.

He was wearing a fake glass nose. The guy with the elephant. Oh, elephants. And then that guy's gone? Yeah. RIP. A couple years ago, I think. He would throw you a tennis ball with a little slit in it and you would put the cash in the

tennis ball and then throw the tennis ball back. The guy was way ahead of his time. Maybe there was a little slit in the dildo and it was like a beer guy throwing. Hey, throw me your, throw me the dildo, put the was a little slit in the dildo and it was like a beer guy throwing, hey throw me your, you throw me the dildo, put the cash in it, chuck the dildo back. Better surface area to catch, right, than a tennis ball, it's a little too small, sometimes people can't.

That tennis ball thing was awesome. You should replace the fine bucket with that. Aerodynamic, you know, you throw it, it gets spiraled. Chris, that is a very silly theory. Oh, sorry. Ha ha ha. Tremendous. Chris, come on back. Tremendous.

What else in the world of sports? Actually, before we get to the world of sports, Jessica, I do have a question for you. I'm going against my better judgment. I have a Chicago trip coming up. Oh, exciting. Notoriously, me and the city of Chicago don't get along. But you're going in the summer, which is a step in the right direction.

I've done it in the summer before and also been let down. So I'm, this is me. I'm leaving myself to the whims of a Chicago lover like yourself. What are things I should do? I'm going to be there for like two days. So what should I do when I'm in Chicago? Stay inside. Board up.

Thank you. Um, Zagacki. Is Cork Ron Emanuel still there? Who could Ron Emanuel? If you can go to a club, I would lovei. Is Cook Ron Emanuel still there? Who could Ron Emanuel? If you can go to a Cubs game. Okay, that's on the list.

Enjoy that area, get some drinks beforehand, go to the game, get some drinks or dinner afterwards. That's a fun activity. Where do I go beforehand in Wrigleyville? Give me some names of places. All I know, that place that was on Bar Rescue. Wait, which place was that? It's got things called Home Run or whatever on it.

There's this place directly, like diagonally across, if you ever go in front, there's this large man. Ooh, I think it might be Cubby Bear. The Draftings Sportsbook. Say hello to Mero for me. Go to the Draftings Sportsbook. Absolutely. But then there's Cubby Bear, they have usually,

if it's like a Friday afternoon game, they'll usually have some sort of cover band playing in the evening. I have gotten very intoxicated there before. Sluggers is the place with the batting cages where you can go, it's gonna be busy if there's a Cubs home game. I mean, I got a hotspot for you.

Boys Town, just write it down. Yeah, Boys Town is fun. Murphy's, you can go get a shot of Malort. Have you had Malort before? I have, sadly I have had Malort. What's the deal with the Malort? You have? What's the deal with Malort?

It gives you farts. I had Malort I think three months ago. But what's the deal with it? It's awful. Wait, why did you have Malort? Because I have friends who are from Chicago who are like, we have to do Malort. And I'm like, what's Malort?

Like, oh, you'll love it. You should just say you'll hate it. And you're like, then why am I drinking? And they're like, oh, because you gotta do it. It's so fun. No, they know me. It's the Chicago Aguadiente. Really?

It tastes like a fart? No, it tastes great. I'll send some to the studio. You can try it next week. You gotta go to the big building, right? What's it called? The Willis Tower. Which big building?

I'm not the big building. That's only the one. The big building. No, the Hancock building, too. I know all about it. Willis Tower, thank you. Which big building? That's only the one. The big building. No, there's the Hancock building too. I know all about it. Willis Tower, it's the big building. Let me just be clear here. Beautiful building.

I don't need your non-Chicago ass. No, no, no, you're Googling it. You're Googling it, Izzy. What the fuck? I'm showing you pictures of where I went. And they have this sky deck. Are you doing a handstand? No, Anthony is.

They have this sky deck where it's full of glass and you're overseeing the city and you can Think I think the Hancock building if it's still open I don't know if it's still but they have like a really high up bar hand the cock hand cock And the bean hey, yeah, there's a bean bean Does the bean have a bar? The Nutella store. Hard to find. There's a big Starbucks. With Nutella store, does it sell anything other than Nutella?

It sells a lot of things made with Nutella. But wait, Billy can't give recommendations because you purposely gave Taylor recommendations of places you didn't like in Chicago. No, I recommended those places. Didn't you recommend a Starbucks? Yeah, just said again. Yeah, the Roastery.

Three stories. Again, let me ask the a Starbucks? Yeah, just said again. Yeah, the Roastery. Three stories. Again, let me ask the Chicago person, the solutions, not you guys. If you want to walk around, are you a walker? I mean, if you want to walk up like the river or the, sorry, Lake Michigan and then like the Chicago River walk,

that whole area is very scenic. I love the museum campus, but if you're only there for a couple days, you might not wanna spend too much time in museums. The lake is swimmable? The lake is swimmable, yeah, it's very cold. Okay, then that's not swimmable. No, it's not swimmable.

That's an X on that. No, it's swimmable. It's swimmable if you're a Chicago person. Look, I wrote Lake Michigan. It's beautiful. When you said swimmable, and then you said it's cold, and I just did the Ghostbusters know around it. I noticed you didn't actually write down Boys Town

If it's cold in the water, but it's warm in the air it feels very nice That's that's a California thing they're like oh our beaches are just as good as Florida like no, it's not freeze freezing It's freezing. It's freezing. I don't want to want to wet suit cold Yeah, but South Florida the beach is too hot like the water's too hot in the summer. I love it, I love it. It's bath water. That's what I like, taking a bath out here. Eh. Taking a bath is a thing raised.

There was a cove the other day and it was just the entire coastline in Fort Lauderdale was covered with seaweed. Like you had to wade through the seaweed just to get to the water, and it also like tints the water, so it just looks like you're swimming in poop water. It's kinda gross.

This is Izzy's blown source right here doing a handstand. Doing a handstand. Was this before or after the guy died? Wait a second, this is my current partner, not my dead ex-husband. Oh wow. Whoa, where'd that come from? He's talking about the guy at the parade.

Yeah, he was talking about the guy with the, was this pre-parade or post-parade? No, the parade guy was several years ago. What are we doing here? What are we doing here? What dead fish was that? I mean, that's what I thought when he asked the question. It was a complicated, you know, dead access club.

That's terrifying, by the way. I would never do that. I would never do that. Which is why I went to a lot more decent pose. I just kind of made an L shape. L shape. It's very rushed. You got people, you got 90 seconds, it's like, ah, I don't know what to do.

I didn't think about it. Let me do this L. No one dies in an L shape. Exactly. AJ, what do I do? Be an L. You should recreate this exact photo and the handstand. He's wearing those shoes right now.

It's like a bar of the shoes. Same shorts too, actually. I love it. So there's a lot of touristy things you could do. I highly recommend them. Do a river tour on the boat, like the architecture tour. Highly recommend the boat. Okay, you drink on the boat. Vince Vaughn is the tour guide.

Oh man, land, sea, and air. They got the land and the sea, now the air part is still waiting on that. You can skip Portillo's. We got him in Phoenix, been to it. I already had this conversation with Jessica. Not impressed. Not as good as it used to be.

Bunch of Chicago people in Arizona that have migrated. Yeah, those are the ones that tell you to do Malort. Any restaurant with goat in it, because that's Stephanie What's Her Face. Girl and the Goat, yeah. There's three of them. Any restaurant with goat? Stephanie What's Her Face, make sure you like that? Go top chef winner?

Stephanie I don't know her last name is her this is your area of expertise is he? Tom Havistrow host the most popular top chef podcast. It's called pack your knives wherever you go on the planet by the way Can I change the subject back to something that you guys were talking about earlier? That you didn't mention something are we done with the Chicago suggestions? If all cheval or small cheval for burgers excellent they have that new york although all cheval all cheval Au space a you Or small cheval small cheval small that's close to boys down actually it's like the little there's a couple of them now I think there's it's like a little diner version of a shabal. Is it like a life-changing burger or is it like it's a burger?

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We're good. Sorry, guys. Maybe if you stop interrupting, we only got these answers sooner. What else you got? This is the most pleasant conversation about Chicago I've ever had with a mean. So I'm trying it thoroughly. I'm open. I'm open.

Liam Neeson reportedly in a relationship. Yes. Pam Anderson, his co-star in Naked Gun. Not a relationship. You guys did not mention, no? We're just talking. No, I said they were sincerely enjoying each other's company. No.

No, no, no, no, no, no. I read a whole article. I think they were on the Today Show and the host like directly asked them like, to join each other's company. No. No, no, no, no, no, no. I read a whole article. No, no, no, no. I think they were on the Today Show and the host like directly asked them like, so you guys a couple or what? And they were being so weird about it. I think it's cause it's all a stunt, right?

I mean, that's what this all feels like. No. You believe it Jess, we believe in this? I believe it. I don't believe Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau are dating. That was another report that I read. That's Pam Anderson? Yeah.

Wow. I haven't seen, her face does not report that I read. That's Pam Anderson? Yeah. Wow. I haven't seen her face since. Not look familiar. I think she looks pretty good, I'll be honest. She famously is like going no makeup. That's like her thing. Oh, okay. I've been doing that for a while.

Good for her. She should've been doing that for a while. She looks great without makeup on. I think she looks really good. I agree. I didn't say she looked good. I said she was unrecognizable. That's why.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. We don't need your opinions on women, Izzy. Thank you, you're right, you're right. We don't need your opinions on women, Izzy. You're right, you're right. Liam could use some makeup. I'm gonna stick to the gay stake over here. Liam's like 73 or something. He looks great for 73, right?

He is much older. I was watching Father of the Bride for the first time a couple of weeks ago, and Steve Martin, the first one? The Steve Martin one? The second one, because the first one was in the 60s or something. Okay, the first one? The Steve Martin one? The second one, because the first one was in the 60s or something. Okay, the reboot then. The first version of the reboot was Steve Martin.

He is 42, apparently, when they filmed it. And he is so gray. Like, not gray, his hair is so white. Steve Martin might be the best Mike Ryan trick of just look old when you're younger, because he looked like, he looked good at 30, 35, but he still looked older. Kind of.

I thought Larry David's the king of that. Well, a little too far with the hair. Sam Elliott looks great. Sam Elliott. Steve Martin. Also the best. Prop comic. Did somebody say Elliott?

No. No. We were doing a thing over here. A bit in the movie with like a basketball or Something I would just be like prop comic and then I'd be like god damn it. I gotta stop saying that No, what I'm watching this movie with knows what I'm talking about It's terrible if you're Justin Trudeau and Katy Perry You can definitely have a private dinner if you want to have a private dinner

Like getting caught by paparazzi having dinner together is very much like okay he's a former prime minister there's a lot of privacy there no come on really they don't think if the two of them didn't want that out that that when the last time you saw Obama at a restaurant yeah it doesn't happen well yeah I guess you're right sometimes I tell Michelle Sasha Malia I gotta wait until you guys go on a cruise and then I've got the whole house to myself and I can actually wait What do you eat they went to three different locations while go to a steakhouse first night date night put on a college shirt

Obama seems like a flay guy. What kind of steak? Well, I don't know but I don't know about that play because I've heard It's not my opinion. For some folks across the aisle, some folks across the aisle said it's a feminine cut of meat. But I got some confirmation from misogynist Bane that it's all good. So second night, I had pizza, you know what I had on it? Whatever I wanted, balls. Whatever, I had meatballs on it, that's right then the third night I had I had Thai food high food with orange chicken those

honey chicken chicken for our rice egg roll no sharing no sharing oh man No sharing. Oh man. Jessica, what else is going on? Save me. Cameron Brink is back. Cameron Brink is back? Or is she here? Because technically this is her debut, right?

Of the season. Well, of the season, yeah, she's been out for 13 months. Did she tear ACL before the season started? No, she played like five games or something last year, right? Yeah, she was averaging like two and a half blocks per game. It was crazy. But then she had like the bad knee injury, and she finally was back.

She's on a minutes restriction. She's on the sparks. I think their defense is going to get a lot better, hot take, with Canberra back, because she's like a blocking machine. And maybe they'll make a little bit of a run in the playoffs now. It's very exciting. Let her cook. Jessica, I wanna ask you-

Make her cook. Make her cook. Jessica, I wanna ask you a question. On the latest episode of Basketball Illuminati, which you can get wherever you get podcasts, we talked about, we've been talking a lot of Michael Beasley talk lately. And one of the things when we were talking about

the Michael Beasley case, we went into the John Tate Porter stuff, and John Tate Porter was able to affect unders on prop bets on Hensley. Malik Beasley. Yeah, I'm sorry, Malik Beasley. Michael Beasley's his dad. Malik Beasley.

But John Tate Porter was able to affect unders by having injuries and then leaving early. And so it got me thinking about the WNBA. And first of all, it's way more financially vulnerable of a population, right, of athletes than NBA players. Do you think it's possible that there could be a gambling scandal within the WNBA? I mean, just theoretically, I'm not saying.

Theoretically, sure. I mean, there's been gambling scandals in like college baseball and like a ton of sports with less eyeballs. So yeah, I mean, theoretically, I think anything is really possible with this stuff. It would be obviously terrible if that happened, but I mean, you might not find out about it for years,

like in this case. Yeah, yeah. Jess, let me ask you something I saw about Paige Becker's the other day. There's this weird clip that was circulating online where the coach is drawing up a play and everyone's like, you know what I'm talking about. And everyone's dissecting, like Paige Becker's looks like

and her teammate. She doesn't approve. All the teammates kind of look zoned out. Melee Jones and Paige Becker's are both just like, oh. I feel like it's kind of unfair, that clip, but I don't know, like am I missing something there? Do they not like the coach? Yes, I think Wings fans don't like Chris Kulklanis

because it's like his first year he's a younger coach. I think they just, it is a tough name to say. All of the first year head coaches in the WNBA this season, including like the Chicago Sky's head coach, they have all within like the first three games of the season, a lot of the fans have been like, fire them, they suck. And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

This is like their first time being a head coach in WNBA. Like maybe give them a season to see if they figure it out. Like it happened last season with Indiana Fever and Christie sides. Like, were they terrible at the start of the season? Yes. Did they get better throughout the season? Also, yes. I mean, they were pretty good when the season ended compared to where they started. Maybe should have gotten a little bit more credit, but fans were like,

fire her. And eventually the fever did. Incidentally, like this, I've seen a lot of fans also unhappy with Steph White who replaced Christie sides at Indiana because they haven't been, they haven't finished games well, I guess you could say. But Kaylyn Clark seems to like her, right? Well, I think all the players seem to like her. But to your point about the video going viral, I just think there is so much more,

and it happened very quickly, there's so much more scrutiny on, especially the first year coaches, and the coaches of these superstars like Paige Becker, who has so many fans and so many people watching her every move and dissecting her, everything she does on the court, everything she's wearing, they are just like,

they love Paige Becker's and so they're gonna take a freeze frame from a clip if it supports the narrative that she's the best person on this team and needs more support and needs a better coach, et cetera, et cetera. And I'm not saying that there isn't some truth to it. Like the wings are a little bit of a mess. They've been better over the last like month, I would say. But yeah, I think I think there's just like heightened scrutiny over All these coaches. What makes you think it's unfair?

Oh, because I mean you could take a screen grab or a one and a half second video clip of take a screen grab or a one and a half second video clip of anything and make it look the way you want based on your narrative. So you're saying unfairly sort of projecting this idea that Paige and her teammates are not a fan of their coach. Yeah, right. Which would be a bad thing, I guess, in general. But this happens in sports all the time.

Like all the time where players openly will show whether it's with body language or whether it's with their words that they don't like what the coach is doing. They don't like the coach. Amin and I were just talking about it before when Billy Donovan his first year in OKC. They pretty much learned, hey, whatever Billy tells us to do, do the opposite and then we'll be successful. I think it's important to take anything you see on the Internet with a grain of salt and not just use it as like the only evidence to support one thing. But to your point, like this is this phenomenon has been around for a long time. There was a video last year of the LSU bench during a game where Kim Mulkey was drawing up a play and Haley Van Lyth looked super confused.

And that went viral because it was like, oh my God, like this is, you know, it supported the theory, which I think was true, that Haley Van Lyth was a bad fit at LSU. She didn't, wasn't playing what Kim wanted her to do. And like, it was just overall a bad choice for her to transfer and that clip became like the, you know, the symbol of that. So yes, it's happened for a long, long time.

But I would say like Paige Becker's, Haley Van Lyth, Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, like all these players have tons of people online posting videos and and freeze frames of them constantly So you're just gonna see more of it now. There was there was also you guys remember Austin Reeves rookie year There was a game in Brooklyn where LeBron is explaining something to him and the look on Austin Reeves face is literally Right, but it's just like all right, what about the game where LeBron? What was the coach who got fired after David Blatt where it was the play was called for somebody else and he's like I had walked out and changed it. No, and then he talked about it

Yeah that play off I had to put my foot down and change it He had some words like that Is it common in the NBA for like a player a coach to be drawing up a play and they're just kind of looking at Each other like we're not doing this shit Yeah I mean it goes back to the the triangle and Michael Jordan where you just Perf you figure out the offense so well that you know where you can sort of break free

and then you just do your thing. And when you succeed, like Michael Jordan does, what's Phil Jackson gonna say? There's a very funny clip of Randy Whitman, I think. He's holding the clipboard and he keeps flipping it. Like he's trying to figure out how he's trying to hold it and Bradley Beals in the background like looking around like what the hell is happening here?

No, let me tell you right now, Jessica, I'll tell you why I don't trust that coach, I don't like that coach. Because he has a man bun. You can't project authority. Nope, nope, you can't project authority with your hair looking like it's 1965 and you're on the beach somewhere. What kind of steak do you think he gets?

He gets a filet mignon. Probably a pescatarian. Yeah, probably doesn't eat meat. Um, I don't, I can't respect the man bun. It doesn't, it makes me look like you're right. It makes me think that the person is a little too relaxed. Yeah, man. That's all I think of when I think of the man bun.

No, no, no. Isn't that a good quality to having a coach? You know what, it could be. You're chill under pressure. Absolutely. To relax me not putting in a bun? What's the most frantic haircut? Oh, whatever Hubie Brown had, that weird curl.

Yeah. Oh my god. I think his hair is pretty nice, honestly. Wait, Hubie Brown? No. Hubie Brown which year? Okay, Hubie Brown when he had the crazy curls. Oh, so not Burt Bacharach, Hubie Brown.

No, the one like when he was. Coach in the Knicks. Yep, that Hubie Brown. Oh my god, that hair. It's good hair. Team Gatorade, by the way. Sorry? Let her cook. Oh. Those silly women, they didn't know what their marketing campaign even meant.

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Workday, moving business forever forward. Don Lebatard. Mr. Shirt, if I may say for a second. Miami, they were simulating the snap count the entire game and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage. And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Met in my face, Mike Shirt. All right, so that's one thing. Stugats.

They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met. And he can watch if he wants. This is the Don LeVar Tar Show with the Stugats. ["The Stugats"] Sticking with the wings, why is Arikay Angwale having such a struggle this year?

It's, you know, I think it's a combination of like, when they started the season, they made some moves in some trades. The front court was not very good. I think her shots haven't been going in. I think she's just been in a little bit of a slump. But I think, you know, it's, it's, it's tough to say because I think there's like a real thing where there may just need to be more chemistry. And it was tough at the beginning of the season because Paige Becker has missed a few games with a concussion and there's been injuries and all of that. So it's just hard, I think, to build a rapport with especially like a rookie teammate when, you know, Arikay's got like a very specific playing style. And when the shots don't

fall and the threes don't fall, like, yeah, her, her numbers aren't good, but I, you know, there's, there's probably a number of factors that go into it. Coaches you can't take seriously because of their hair. Oh my God. I remember the Liberty coach who went viral for this. Is that his name? No, I don't know. That's not his name, but he had the Beijing thing across the front. It was just terrible.

I'll give it to video. Put it up there. I'll tell you one that you can't, absolutely can't trust. Rex Ryan's brother. The reason why Rex Ryan was the head coach and Rob Ryan was just so- No, Rob Ryan. Do you guys remember the interview clip we played with Rob Ryan that was from last year? He's like the USC linebackers coach now, I believe.

We need to bring that back before college football season. I love Rob Ryan's hair. It is luxurious. That's why he's like the USC linebackers coach now, I believe, and we need to bring that back before college football season. I love Rob Ryan's hair, it is luxurious. That's why he's never been a head coach. It's a coordinator hair, not a head coach hair. That's not a head coach hair. That's not a head coach hair. That's why Capers much better as a coordinator.

Dom Capers, man, that comb over in a jet black. It's doll hair. Yeah. Gene Katie, how long are you gonna hold on to that, man? I mean, he was successful. How long did you have to hold on to that, though? There was a lot of doll hair. Gene Katie, how long are you going to hold on to that, man? I mean, he was successful. How long did you have to hold on to that, though? There was a lot going on there. I don't think there's any current NFL coaches whose hair

I don't respect. You guys think of one? They're young. That's the problem, right? Not all of them. I mean, Andy Reid. That's true. Sean McVey still has the 2000s down and then up.

Yeah. I'm not a big fan of that. Sneaky island that he's covering up because of how he's pushing up the hill. Have you guys watched the quarterback show on Netflix, along with Joe Burrow? And yeah, OK. I would say Joe Burrow, in theory, very interesting in interviews. Not as interesting. There's the Liberty coach I was talking about.

This dude right here. That's crazy. This dude right here. Yeah, this guy. That's crazy. That's dude right here. Describe it. Okay, so he's got a George Jefferson natural hair, but he went to the barber and he got the Carlos Boozer Beijing fill-in so that it- Just on the tape though.

Just on the tape. Even the George Jefferson has a little bit of Afro puffs to it because it's got a little bit of body there. Who told him that's good? I thought you meant like New York Liberties, I was like, community of Montbello? That's why I said Richie Atabato, because he has all that red hair and stuff.

You meant the men's basketball team at Liberty University. Correct, yes, obviously. Okay. University of North Carolina, Charlotte, 15 years ago had this dude, we were talking about like, hey, if you have a sloped head, like the hairline receding doesn't look as bad.

The dude at University of Charlotte, North Carolina, and he was at North Carolina, Charlotte, he literally, his hair just started like in the middle of his head. But he was edged up, and I was just like, what are you doing? What are you doing? I couldn't stop staring at him every time they interviewed him.

I just kept looking at his hair. Thank God I never had to scout. If I had to scout, I'd be just like looking at this guy. Hey, how's the kid from North Carolina Charlie? No idea. I was just staring at this dude's hair the whole time. Geez. Anybody else you got, Jess?

I tried to come up with a top five baseball things like Zazz did, but I only have three. Then you got three. Jessica, what do you love about baseball? Oh man, it was sad to see that Ryan Sandberg passed away. That's not a happy place to take it though. What I love about baseball, I like going to baseball games. I like, I did a top five list of things you do

at a baseball game like a month ago. I remember that. I will stand by that list. Well actually, repeat it for me because I'm going to a Cubs game maybe and I wanna know. Okay, number one was get buzzed and go to the merch store. Merch store, not gonna do that, got it. On a buzz.

Okay, I will get buzzed though. Really nice Cubs jackets there though. Not gonna go to the merch store though. So I'm crossing that one out, Ghostbusters, no. Number two? There was, wander around the concourse looking for food and then go back to your seat and then go back to the concourse

and just settle on whatever has the shortest line. So a baseball game, okay, Got it. Yeah. And then, um, start to fill out a card, but then give up. You know what? I'll beat you to it. I'll give up before I even start. Number four. I can't remember the other two. I mean, you're putting me on the spot. This is the guy, put it on the screen. This was his hairline And I was supposed to be able to focus on something else? I just don't understand like the barber situation, whoever's cutting his hair, because that's clearly not a professional doing it,

if you look at the back. So he's what, the head coach of Charlotte basketball, right? At the time. University of Charlotte basketball. At the time, at the time. And they're looking into a mirror and they're just like, yeah, no, we got it. You're talking about the barber?

Yeah. How about the players? How were you recruited? This guy came into your living room, looking like this and you're like, I, no, we got it. You're talking about the barber. Yeah. How about the players? How were you recruited? This guy came into your living room looking like this, and you're like, I'll go there. And then when he got there, he's drawing up plays and telling you stuff, and you're able to focus and not just stare about what's going on there.

Imagine you're a player, and you're like, I got this great scholarship offer. I'm going to get a lot of playing time. It's a great location. It's going to be close to home. Oh, what's the problem, honey? Well, mom, the coach has a bad haircut His hairline literally starts in the middle of his head

Well, I would look good bald too. He's got a nice shaped head and also I think you're missing the point here, Jessica It's not what's the problem, honey It's I'm not letting my baby play for no man who looks in the mirror every day and thinks exactly you gotta have a self-awareness You're saying the mom's like sorry honey, I didn't hear you. I was looking at the pictures. Yeah. Let's take out a loan instead of a scholarship because of his haircut.

I mean, that man woke up every day and said to himself, you know what, I'm good to go. That right there, bad decision-making. I do not want him leading my child. I just, like, you gotta think to yourself, if this is what you deem to be acceptable, what else do you deem to be acceptable? Some people just don't care about their vanity

as much as specifically the men in the two rooms that I'm looking at right now. That's the problem, Jessica. My Brian, his head just perked up. He's like, I think that, I think she meant me. A little bit of a defensive look on his face. Jessica, if he didn't care, it would have just been grown out.

But the problem is, this man clearly goes to a barber regularly to keep it maintained. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean. How wild Billy Wenzel got at that. Is it on the barber to be? No, no, the barber's keeping this alive. The barber knows, hey, I got a good client here. He's going to come back.

Let me hit him up. Tips well. And be like, buddy, you're good. You got a couple more years. Don't worry about it. Would you allow your barber to be like, I got a good client here. He's going to come back. Let me hit him up. Tips well. And be like, buddy, you're good. Do you like a couple more years. Don't worry about it. Would you allow your barber to be like, this is not working? Like, I feel like I'd be offended. No, man.

I trust my barber. I would appreciate that. I would have my barber, I would just tell him, while you're cleaning your hair, just Google bad hairlines. And then just see what the internet's making fun of. And then see if you want me to keep going this way. Are your barbers like honest with you? Or are they like delusional with you? Like, they tell you just kind of like what you want me to keep going this way. Are your barbers honest with you or are they delusional with you?

They tell you just what you want to hear? Because I have a barber who asked me probably the rudest question that I've ever been asked. So I was getting- He asked if Billy's a cop. Well no, that too. He thought I was a cop for a long time. That is offensive.

Yeah, but no, it got worse. So then on the opposite end of the spectrum, he's cutting my hair and he's like, you know, doing like a fade in the back or whatever. He's telling me, he's like, man, it's just really hard. Cause like, he's like, are you like really stressed right now? Cause you're like, it seems like you're losing a lot of hair. He's like, it's either that or like you're a drug addict,

but I don't think you're a drug addict. And I was like, well, I mean, this isn't the most stress-free haircut at the moment, but guys straight up asked me, are you a drug addict? Cause your hair is bad. Stygots is traveling a lot. Dan texts me at 6 a.m. 6 a.m. is late.

Unless you could say I'm stressed. Yeah, late. So this barber of yours just decided he's like a doctor and he's just gonna like feel up your hair and start giving you diagnosis. Well, okay, so I didn't know this until I went to the dermatologist. We talked about my dermatologist thing. No, no, this until I went to the dermatologist. We talked about my dermatologist thing.

No, no, so like I went to the dermatologist, I guess right after the barber. I go to dermatologist once a year. I did my check-in a couple weeks ago. When I get there, the dermatologist is like, so have you been using the shampoo? And I was like, what shampoo? And she's like, last time you were here,

you said that you're worried about thinning hair. Shampoo, I was like, I don't even, I was like, what shampoo? She's like, last time you were here, you said that you were worried about thinning hair. Shampoo, I was like, I don't even, I was like, was it a prescription? Like, I don't even remember this conversation happening. And then I started replaying it in my head. I was like, oh yeah, that's because I got a haircut the day before and the guy said I was a drug addict that was losing all his hair.

So I must have asked the dermatologist, like, do you think there's something I should do about this? But you never actually did anything about it. I never did anything about it. I guess I got over it, yeah. I know the shampoo. Are you still losing hair? I don't know, I thought I was okay.

Well, what did your barber say last time you were there? We didn't talk about that. He asked if I was a cop. Yeah, I mean, he's asked if I was a cop when I'm birth time. He went back to the cops? Yeah. That's kind of his go-to thing. You know if you're a cop, you have to tell me.

First he wanted drugs off of you, and then when you were in a drug dealer, he's like, oh, maybe you're a cop. Not dealer addict me. First he wanted drugs off of you and then when you were in a drug dealer he's like oh maybe you're a cop. Not dealer addict. That's what was causing me to lose the hair. Tomato tomato. But he thought you were like a detective right? Like not a regular cop. He thought you were like a desk cop. Yeah he did say that. He's like not even like a real cop. Oh you're a paloma. A pencil pusher.

Yeah exactly. You know you can't be out in the field. You crazy? What a backhanded cop. You look like a cop but one of those that works behind the desk you look like you do desk pops away from the action You ever do a desk pop. Yeah, you just want to let it off one time to do a desk pop I don't know what that is. No, no, no one gets the references. No, we're not I've seen the other guys seen it but it's just a movie Are you doing a desk pop now? Is that what this is? How's it always everyone else?

Why, yeah. And also it's just a strange reaction to Get Up and Leave, especially for a show that kicks people out. It's the chair, though. It's not strange here. It's the chair. That's normal in that chair. Just get up, walk away whenever you want.

I feel like whenever he does things with me, he just wants to get up and leave. That is a thing. Dan does it during my segment all the time. Yeah, look, man. There's.... That is a thing. Dan does it during my segment all the time. Yeah, look man, there's. Are you wishing you got hung up on today or no? Me?

Yeah, you could have been out of here five minutes ago. My favorite classes are the ones when the teacher's gone and it's just, we're all hanging out. Yeah. Those are the best classes. Subscribe to the Echoes or is it just Echoes? The Echoes, IndiePod. It's like the Goo Goo Dolls where everyone will call it

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No, it's just behind them, a red light. Sorry. Jess, big news, you see, Sunday Night Football tweeted out. No, what is it? Carrie Underwood back for the 13th season. No comment. Oh my gosh.