The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Everyone Hates Their Job, Right?

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

The crew finally dives into the Denver Nuggets defeating the Miami Heat in 5 games to capture the NBA title. We get to Nikola Jokic's historic dominance, the Zeller minute, how the Heat found a way to stay in the game despite playing poorly, the Jokic Brothers kissing Nikola on the head, and Bam doing just about as well as he could. Also, why does Nikola Jokic hate his job so much? Plus, we're having issues with Greg beating the Hard Network Out, break down Stan Kroenke's weird trophy acceptance, and explain why we saw such a bad basketball game last night. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshall with the StugatSpotcast. I am sure at this point most people have seen the numbers as they try to empirically make sense of what it is just happened after a season of basketball. Changing of the guard from Durant and LeBron and now Tatum and the Greek Freak and everybody else have to go through a creature, unlike Jimmy Butler, who every single game gives you the same thing so joylessly that he's the first player ever to lead the entire playoffs in points, rebounds, and assists. It's never happened before. And you say, you say, you say, you, I say, you say, you want for him because I'm telling you the single most fascinating thing to me about all of it, even when faced with an unprecedented

player, is his reaction to it afterward as they kept going back to his homeland. And I think a Serbian cafeteria of some sort, I don't even know what it was, but it was a smattering of people that were in the home country that Yoke just won the championship and his immediate reaction is, when the hell can I get home? I am so done with the domination of this league. Please get me home. I don't want to do a parade. Just get me home.

I'm tired of work. You said after the Lakers when you said you were surprised that you didn't feel more. So I'm curious what you are feeling right now. And if you're looking forward to a parade coming up in Denver. Men's parade? Yeah. Men's parade. Thursday. No. I need to go home.

Okay. Oh. Sorry. He actually ran his hand through his forehead and hair in a frustration that he has to stay in this country for two more days, probably because of what Mike was just near. He runs back to his country safer. It's just better. Then we've all been there. You're out with your friends, your buddy said, and I'll drive you home. I'll drive you home. It's getting late. You know your mom's gonna kill you.

And it's like, we're gonna go to one more spot, and then we're gonna go, guys, I gotta get home. I'm gonna go home. So that's feeling is what you felt, like winning a championship? Like, that was, I enjoyed watching the nuggets be normal and celebrate a lifetime achievement and like a cities of franchises achievement and every time the camera with the yoghurt I was like pretend to be happy for me

It's a six years It's a first time ever after one of these championships that you can't go to the cliche Well, he just wanted it more That's the first time ever after one of these championships that you can't go to the cliche. Well he just wanted it more. You buzz sawd right through. You wanted nothing to do with it. And five games you buzz sawd through wanted it more and left in tatters the reputation of Jimmy Butler.

Just sliced it up because they needed something from Jimmy in that game. It was there for the taking. That is the best that all of them can be defended. The heat just did the championship job that you have to do to Denver and the wheels came off of Jimmy at the end. I mean, they just came off. It's jumping into the paint. I wanna assist.

I don't wanna keep jumping into this. He actually played well at the end. I mean, so that's whatever. Like the game lay for it, but he made it a game. I mean, the greatest testament to this 44 win team being in the finals is that they almost won an NBA finals game shooting 35% from the field. That is insane. But to the Yokehatch point, that sound goes on.

And like that's the sound bite that's going to live forever. That everyone's going to joke about. It's very funny. But he goes on and says basically, this is not the most important thing in my life. Like, this is nice, I've won it now, but this does not life changing for me. And he says, and this is my favorite line. He says, I mean, everyone hates their job, right?

And at that moment, I realize, holy shit. He not only doesn't want it more than you, he doesn't want it more than you, he doesn't want it at all. The reluctant goat. The Miami Heat just lost to a team that went five for 28 from three. Yeah, they're going to be kicking themselves. I'm sure because Denver, that was not a championship winning performance. They were kind of dying to give that game away. And that game could have been totally stolen by Miami and Extended and you don't know what happens when that team that's never been there before has to face a game six on the road and

Maybe you have a change or momentum, but I wasn't I mean, I'm certainly impressed with Yoke itch for my mind and keep in mind I've only watched them for five games, but he's the best big man I've ever seen I don't I totally disagree with you I thought Denver took an extension cord and wrapped it around the eats neck and just tightened it the heat could not find Find an opening to get shots off and you say oh, we don't know what the team was never been there before. What happened to that situation? They blew the lead. They went down one and then they made every play. They not only made every defensive play, they made the shots, Michael Porter. Junior couldn't hit a shot. Save his life. Hit the big one. KCP couldn't hit a shot.

That was not a great one for game. It wasn't. It wasn't. But when you say, oh, we don't know how they react in that situation. We saw how they reacted in at the end of game five. They could have collapsed very easily. Instead, they made all the right plays and the biggest play of them all Bruce Brown. Yes. Again, the one that is true. Yes. Again, on true, the Derek White thing, it was a,

a strues watching and also strues missing the corner three that he had that was wide open. Regardless, the, I don't, we, We can get to the details of the game. Denver was better clearly and their best player is an immortal. Like, is putting up numbers that are insane. And Miami did, through great deal of want and hustle, slowed him as best can be slowed. I don't want to lose sight of the fact

that somebody who's not from America, just won the big American trophy and doesn't want to spend two more days here to drink and enjoy the festivities. Every game we ask them, hey, this stat line, we've never seen it before. How do you feel about that? And his answer is like, ah, whatever, whatever, whatever, yeah, okay. How you approach is spring champagne joylessly. Everything is joyless about that guy.

And I think there's plenty of time to sing his praises and I do, but I do wanna buck up against something that a mean said when he said that the shots weren't there. Come on. There was a recipe for Miami to beat them. And I, for the life of me, don't understand how the shots were there at the rim for Max Truce and Duncan Robinson. But they weren't there for someone who historically

lives at the line who didn't even look to go up. There was one late turnover where he pivoted and he had even had BAM wide open. He was so in his own head. It should be noted that he probably did the lying thing after the post game where he said his ankle was totally fine. I hope to God. He is lying about that. But Mike, because if that was a mental thing, that changes the

prism that we view one of the great playoff performers forever. Yeah, but he's so hard to get upset at Jimmy Butler because you're not playing in the NBA finals. You're not in that situation without Jimmy Butler. It's very confusing as to what we do with it. And they play their best stretch of ball with him off the floor. Mike, I understand that, but he's the reason you're in that spot in the first place. He had legendary games. And not only that, guys, he's the reason you're in that spot at the end of the game because a he reached the point where he said,

oh, believe we're going to lose if I don't do something. And he starts hitting three. He gets to the free throw line. He gets to three free throws in the corner. He hits that short jumper to put them up. One, he started to do the same thing he did in game six against the Celtics, which is play like crap for three and a half quarters and then turn it on and try to be pull it out. But I mean, isn't the Obleep we're going to lose this thing moment in game three?

Oh, I mean, sure. I like for four or four. I mean, and we got to address the Zeller minute because Spolstra was trying to protect the legs of that closing lineup and he made the biggest mistake. This is a guy that didn't want to bring in Tyler hero cold. So what does he do?

Bring in Cody Zeller cold and to the tune of a negative five differential in a game that the point differential was five, the game was arguably, I know there a game that point differential was five the game was Arguable I know there are moments that they could have executed down the stretch that they didn't but you could point to that 61 second stretch and say that decision by Spowe ultimately was too much overcome It was not a good one the other question. I asked I asked After every game since game two game three game four game five Why isn't high Smith playing he was one of their best players in the first two

games and then all of a sudden out of the rotation okay i need to stop all of you though because i'm not gonna watch what i watched from yoghurt and have you tell me how he's meant was going to change what happened to you was bored like okay but but before you just go down this path and we go into the minutiae of all the ways the game was lost at the end when the heater is supposed to be good and close games and Kyle Lowry does that against Aaron Gordon because they're suffocated where Aaron Gordon is just throwing the ball right back into his mouth because that's what they get at the

end of a shot clock. I don't want to do it about the single game. That's what Denver did to the heat, offensively in the games that made a championship defensive effort, not be good enough because their offense wasn't good enough and let's say it because Jimmy Butler was not good enough. The MVP was playing in those games. The MVP was consistently better than the heat's best player, and Denver now celebrates with a parade.

Yokech doesn't want to go to. So what Mike said was, how is it that Max Rousseon, Duncan Robinson could get these layups? And Jimmy Butler and Bam can't. There's an element of this is because Denver allowed that to happen. They said, we'll let these guys do that. We're not letting that SOB do what he did to Boston, what he did to New York, and what he did to Milwaukee. And again, Kudos to a defense that was middle of the road during the regular season, becoming airtight as the playoffs rolled on. And they got deeper and deeper in the playoffs.

They got better and better defensively. We keep wanting to blame Jimmy and blame Spowe and blame the heat and blame the shooters, but there's a part of this where Denver for the first two games didn't guard anybody. One game they dies to pull it because he missed everything. The other game they didn't, but three, four and five, they said enough. And that was it. Even when they weren't guarding anybody, Jimmy still wasn't going to the line. They had a game in which they had two free throws. And I understand what you're saying.

And I admit Denver did turn on the defense. They were certainly a better team than they showed in the regular season. Yochitch, as great as he is, isn't the inside defensive force that Brooke Lopez was? Isn't what Robert Williams is inside? Jimmy Butler had no problem attacking and you saw there were plenty of moments, be it the pick six at the end of the game, the hesitation, the hesitation to even go to a pump fake. He was in his own head, was he in his own head because he didn't trust his body. I don't know, but you said we

all saw it like, oh God, here comes a Jimmy takeover and we were all wondering what took so long May I stop you guys just for a second because I thought to myself When he got the three free throws on the three like man He got up for that jump shot terrible holy crap No, but I'm like okay terrible caller no terrible call. I'm simply saying well those seem to be legs like if we're going to say He doesn't have his legs for a jump shot had a man those those seem to be legs like if we're going to say he doesn't have his legs for a jump shot Had a man those those seem to be legs, but what I don't want to do today I really don't think it's fair I think it's dumb to take what the Miami he did and then find all the ways to blame them find all the ways to rip them

Find all the ways to have them not be good enough when they weren't good enough The reason it was such a celebration is because they somehow surprised us all because we all knew they weren't good enough And we're like how the hell are they staying in some of these games? How are they winning these games? I don't want to turn this into a blame fat. We're just blaming Spowe in the 61 seconds of Zeller I mean said no high Smith. There shouldn't be any blame the heat had a fantastic Postseason run and they lost to a clearly better parte de la gente y también se ha hecho eso después de la遊戲. ¡No, no, no! ¡No, no, no, no! ¡No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, rise. Escucheis lo que escuchéis, tapados los ojos. La calle vamos todos a cieras, pero lo más aterradores no saberen que confiar. Uy de las personas que os piden que mireis.

Si queréis seguir convido. So here's the chant. ¿Estás ready? Estoy hablando de la resta del país. Julio, te atreves a ver. Don Lebatard. So here's the chant. Are you ready? I'm speaking to the rest of the country. You say who? We say who? Stugats.

You say who? We say who? You say who? Marant. We say who? This is the Don Lebatard show with a Stugat. This is the Don Lebatar Show with this Tugat. You know right because Yochitch was drafted 41st people have pointed out that the draft was on a Taco Bell commercial when he was drafted and then when he signed his extension

ESPN didn't actually show his highlights. They were showing the Portland Center Nercage, his highlight when the two announced they were showing the wrong guy. The idea that that guy would dominate the sport as an immortal, we're all like, oh my God, okay, so that's the modern day, Will Chamberlain combined with passing skills

we've never seen before. You feel like you sort of shut him down yesterday and he's still dominating the game in every way. He was 12 of 16. On top of that, you have, honestly, a joyousness that should so be so easy to sell in this. His brothers are so happy for him kissing him all over the head whenever he wins, including that giant brother who picked him up after the game because he's big brother to little brother and is carrying him around even though he's 300 pounds.

They were carrying around Michael Malone. It was great. They are. The brothers, his expression of joy today. Is that the that's like the Yoke's family happy comes from And his wife. Yeah, it is and his child. It is a beautiful story like him the story the tapestry You could weave around this guy if he wanted it woven But he doesn't he doesn't want stardom he wants to buy, Kevin Durant says he just wants to face time with his horses He's he's basically breaking the salary cap and the celebration by saying him My owner needs to get me a private plane so I can get home because I don't want to go to the parade and work for more two more days I did not know that he hated his job. Yes, and we're all the annoying co-workers that keep asking him if he's coming to happy hour

That's all we are co-workers that keep asking him if he's coming to happy hour. That's what we are. Because all of us are looking at it as lover of sport and being like, man, I wish I could dominate like that. I think I would enjoy the holy hell out of it. How is it that he just wants to get on the first plane back home? Like it's a business assignment. Hey, Nikola, we have some cake in the break room. We're all getting together for Jan today. But we're so used to this thing being a massive relief for certain people happiness and relief. Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, it meant something to them. Janus, it meant something to him.

I don't like that this didn't mean that much to Yoke. Shout-outs. He doesn't follow the media stream. Like he has no idea exactly how much this is meaning to you because that's what LeBron was dealing with. That's what the rent was dealing with. They subscribed to all this stuff. They felt every single bit of that pressure

where Yokech doesn't have social media, cares only about his horses. And so he played it carefree. So I genuinely think he doesn't really understand or grasp the legacy play that was just made by him. I love the world where Yokech is just like, I just care about horses and they're like, hey, honey, what do you want for dinner? And I just shut up, let me just think about my horses. Horses is what I care about. What do you get from FaceTiming a horse?

Seriously, what does the horse give back in that exchange? A long face. Good contribution, Cody. So let me get something straight. So he likes horses. Do you think that Yokic can ride a horse? Do you think there's a horse big enough? He can't ride a horse.

Yes, he can. We've seen video of it. Really? That is a monster horse. You don't think a horse can handle a... No, there's like weight limits on horses. A lot of horses is like, if you weigh over 200 pounds, you can't think a horse can handle no there's like weight limits on horses a lot of horses like if you weigh over 200 pounds you can't ride this horse I mean did you see the inbound play that took like forever to actually hand the ball to Miami were yo-kitch just put all his weight

on top of bam it was a 90 degree angle and yo-kitch at the inbound is putting all 400 pounds on Bams back. Bams has the battle with that inside. This is one of the things I made, one of the points I made in the post game yesterday. I was so incensed about Bams twice. God under Yokeech's skin to the point where yoke it's retaliated with a wild elbow and rather than do the thing that every single NBA season of our lives is taught us which is someone does that you act like you got shot. Bam just shrugged and look for a ref and what are you doing?

What are you doing? You could have got him kicked out if you acted well enough. I want to go back to Billy's point because there's no actual pictures of Yokeh on a horse He's on a harness. He does harness Yeah, like Greg he looks like he's on harness race really. Yeah, it's a little it pulls him right He's a big guy. Yeah, he's double the size of the horse Like he's standing next to the horse and it's that it's naval the horse is riding him I

Have a question for me that I was wondering just Just to be clear though, your contribution before that is Yokeitch is a big guy. Me? Yeah, it's a fact. Jack? It's huge actually. It's not big, it's a good point. I have a question for a meme

because I've always kind of wondered if this I was wondering it last night and it was actually texting people during the game saying, Denver's not going to win today because of this factor. Horrible jerseys to win a championship in. It was one of the worst uniforms that you could win a championship in. And I'm wondering because you worked for an office.

Is there like a thought process that goes into it? Because I also thought in 2006, when the heat won their first championship, I was like, they shouldn't be winning this championship in the red jerseys, I didn't like it. I feel like you have to know the moment is going to live on forever and you have to go

out there looking your best. And that was not those jerseys last night. I thought that those jerseys were the worst jerseys that a team could win their first championship in. That's their home whites that they were yesterday. I don't like them. I want to Denver on the front. They don't have a good uni set.

They really don't. The mile high, the blue mile high, what never have. Rainbow. Oh, that's right. No, that's in the deck. How do blues? Yeah, I didn't like them. The mile high the blue mile high what never have rainbows Sick you need to go down the road you got a problem with the rainbows. I like the powder blues there I also Like to think of what it is that was just pointed out there by everybody everybody, both the size of Yokecich and... He's big, Dan. Yeah, you mentioned that. And also him leaning on BAM and feeling like he's got about a hundred pounds of him.

And I want you just all to imagine all of you, as we talk about connecting to social media, and why you might not think that your job is fun. Great Cody, now laughing because he's delighted that the photo of him at the back he's gonna cough and laugh and just be self-absorbed, interrupt everything I'm saying, just laughing and staring at himself with a good memory, I won that race. There's a photo of Greg Harness racing right now. It's actually built to scale because

it's a tiny horse and I imagine that's kind of like what Yokehch would look like. Right. Harness racing, it's cool. Are those the shoes that got buried in the shoe neural? They were actually. Yes. Wow, sorry to bring that up to you. Yep. R.I.P.

I feel bad. Imagine if those shoes came back to life, Dan. Whoa! Hahaha. Imagine that you're bam out of bio. And you have that, just all of that that is better than you draped on you at bam out of bio and you have that, just all of that that is better than you draped on you at the end of what must be a true exhaustion.

And you just look over to your left and what you see is front-off is type of mean being like this, do better. Bam, you need to play, you need to play better than that guy who's better than you and you're doing an amazing job An amazing job of defending him even though he's got one thousand pounds on you However do better and you wonder why they might hate their work

That's a fair point by you and I'll concede that what about when he has Jamal Murray on a switch and he throws it to Cal Aureon a bench He has Jamal Murray on a switch and he throws it to Calhalyre on the bench. That's what I'm saying. To be fair, post-traumatic stress disorder, I would say, for just having yoga. Like, you go to the same color warm-ups as your uniform. Listen, if you think, I want you to be honest here, the world is watching and a guy is better than you, and you go to sleep at night, and you're thinking about him leading on you, and he's going to hit the ball with his elbow, and it's's gonna roll around on the rim seven times. He's gonna win the MVP And he doesn't even care that much. He just wants to get back to his orc

Does anybody know the origin of a means hate for bam? He wanted you watch him. He wants him to be I'll be played five. He wants him to be athletically dominant against everybody That's what he wants. Let's be honest as much as we all love and appreciate Pat Riley, the roster is not constructed to compete with Yokehs. Like, BAM is a small ball center and Yokehs is not that. And your answer to that is, ah, the Zeller minute. So like, I actually think that BAM, like, did as well as you can expect from, from a six nine athlete against that.

Going up against that. Right. So he had a good finals. Couple things. I don't hate BAM. I hate a Drees. No, I, yes. I'm not fond of a Drees.

I like BAM. I'm not fond of a Drees. But it's more of a disappointment than it is a hatred. There's only one person in the NBA that I hate watching play. That's Duncan Robinson. Because he looks terrified all the time. And I just don't like that jitteryness I want him to be cool and like just be like own it. I have a great shooter

But I digress when it comes to to bam Dominique the issue wasn't if I thought defensively He played masterfully this series. I like honestly you do he did a great a job as you can do I get such an unsolvable force best a human can do I would say that person Anthony Davis wasn't able to do that. That's a human can do at that size Anthony Davis was not able to do that right Correct. That's a human can do at that size I think I think there's a hot take here that like instead of the zealor minutes like deadmen could have helped more I mean yeah, he could have. That's a big thing.

You want to deadman Delina? He wants deadman to come to life like that Ecuadorian lady. Just saying. But what Fox said, and what Dan has said earlier on is he was pretty obvious. I mean, the series ended in five games.

It was pretty obvious that there was a huge mismatch here physically, skill wise, that they had the offensive skill set to break down what Miami did well defensively. And Miami was out of answers offensively because of whatever was going through Jimmy Butler here. I actually thought Kyle Lowry acquitted himself nicely. He's no longer my least favorite heat player. He's second. That's because the Zeller minute. You can't hate Zeller. I hate his fault. Cody Zeller. I never want to see him again. And thankfully I won't. No, what team is out there saying, oh, we need that. We need that. We need that. You're right. no, nobody. His career is done. Mike, that guy, and Mike. Mike, Mike.

Mike was playing well defensively. Why do we take him out? Mike, that guy's got two mortgages that he's behind on both. You can't kick him out the league just yet, man. He's an unrestricted freagin. He's an unrestricted freagin. I can't imagine the market for him right now. Here's a market selling insurance or an actual market.

He can work in an actual market. In many ways, he is a restricted free agent because he's restricted to not playing in the NBA. You say that and he got more time in that than the questionable Tyler hero. They need it. He could have helped. I'll say that, but I've got to try.

No, if you get a help, you got to trust me. Because I'm telling you, those 61 seconds make see a revisit all of it Okay, okay, they should have just played all different players. You see what happens there I mean okay, and they all have had more success against That was a one moment in time and where we all knew better than Eric's Come on, too. There wasn't a single person when we came back from commercial That was like oh good good good call on dead man on on Cody's other this is good no this is great every

single one of us put both our hands on our head try to pull out our hair and scream no two games ago we love the zealot minutes and spoke was the greatest coach in NBA history right Greg that's right Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I say this is the anniversary show with this to God Like many of you I miss the hard network out now. I no longer miss it He is ruining it because he is staring scared the entirety of segments at the clock Even though we're eight seconds in right now. He's always worried any time the conversation comes to him. And he's not wrong here. Thank you. Anytime the conversation,

anytime anyone asks for his opinion on anything, he is someone who is afflicted with post-traumatic stress disorder where he skittish like someone who's come back from combat, who hears firecrackers or kids playing with snap and pops making noises over there. That's correct. I want to allow you to make this excuse for Greg Cody. Like we sit here and we criticize athletes who have to change their game plan from week

to week while chasing around other top athletes, hit shots and watch a clock. And all we ask Greg Cody to do is say what he's thinking without talking past when the clock says zero zero. It ain't that hard. That's not making excuses for him. Cody to do is say what he's thinking without talking past when the clock says zero zero. It ain't that hard. That's not make excuses for him. Let's celebrate that he's achieved it, but it's not that hard.

Thank you, I've mastered it. But you haven't though, because now when you make it, it's not funny. Like when you, because you successfully make it and you do so with things that aren't funny, and again, in your self-involvement, your unrelenting perpetual narcissism, the show collapses with something, with a dismount that's't funny and again in your self involvement you're unrelenting perpetual narcissism the show collapses with something with a dismount that's not funny but you've successfully made it technically he's doing the thing

he asked him to do yeah he's doing it and he's been you're giving him a one second window I was gonna say forgive me for not coming up with something brilliantly funny in one point well but he's dropped this a little for us with one and a half seconds left on the clock. He got 12 minutes to prepare for it because he starts as soon as the segment 12 minutes 10 years. 10 years. He's had plenty of time to get good at maybe at the end of this. I can nail it because I'm paying attention to the clock. So I would when I

got to Baltimore, I like kind of learned a new way to watch film with Ed Rady taught me how to like prepare in a way that you can find out what the defense is going to do before they do it. Or what the offense is going to do before they do it. You know what happened? When we knew what they were going to do, we got a bleep and turnover. So Greg comes into this room every day and knows exactly what the opponent is gonna do. They're gonna run a dive with one second left and somehow he manages to be in prevent defense every single time. Just one time. I

want you to get in goal line and be ready to stop it. That's it. Just once. I've been doing it all day and you criticized me for it I nail the hard network out. That's not nailing it nailing it nailing it isn't just successfully stopping talking You're putting them in an impossible spot you guys. He can't it doesn't matter the level of Separations how is he going to illuminate with a second there right? Like give him seven no no no no no no no It's not that hard, guys. So I think the problem is that Greg believes that it's him against the clock or it's him against Dan.

No, it's us against the audience. You would like to provide something for them that is of value. And you think you've won because, oh, I was watching the clock. No, what winning is, and I had this problem when the first time I got on first take, I was like, you know what, I'm a whoops Steven Azaz.

And then I realized, no, me and Steven A are on the same team. While we are yelling, the point is not for me to undercut all of his arguments. The point is for us to have an engaging conversation for the 12-minute segment and then in somewhere that at the end Now it's time for me to dunk and win and it seems like Greg is like nope You didn't get me what you don't understand is you don't get no extra points for not getting them

We get extra points for ending on a chuckle. You mean to tell me Dominique Fox work you come in here and tell you we had a viscerated my arguments I've never heard something so preposterous in my life. I'm a Paul Now was there spit on that microphone? I think you know Can you say Roger and the Sarah Vitch has like a vocal range? Like a Slava med the Denko there you go

I'm trying to get the whole thing again. I'm gonna try to get the thing again. Try to get. Keep working on it. Now, I know this brother, Dominique Foxworth. He's a very, very intelligent brother. I follow him.

I follow him. You got to listen to his podcast all the time. But then he goes with Dan Lepetard and says that he's killing my arguments. My voice just cracked. You sound so shit.

I mean, in his defense, he was in Denver last night And he was like the first one here to it's unbelievable. I was he's been on I I wasn't just in Denver Like I was on the floor interviewing all of these drunk people smell wreaking a champagne except for Michael Malone Who is drinking beer? Not gonna say what kind of beer it was because- It's a corporate sponsored beer. Yes, like-

He's a beer kind of guy though. He's a beer kind of guy for sure, but it's one of those things where you'll never have an easier interview in your life. Everyone's open, everyone's emotional, everyone's happy, everyone's talk. It's every okay. What an interview.

His brothers appear, did you ever catch up with them or no? Yeah, so I don't know if you heard this story. I finally saw them here in Miami and I saw the the big one and the big one is That's all the turbine. Is that the one who's tattoos move on his body? Yes, that's the one That's the one who picked up his little brother at the MVP the unprecedented player physically picked him up He picked up the whole team Dan. He needs to see Jeff Green under one arm, and it smith on his shoulder. He's very strong. They threw Mike Malone up in the air.

Yes. He still hasn't come back down yet. I don't think he agreed to that. I think that's just something that was happening. Well, asking when he comes back from Mars or wherever he landed. Do you know how rare it is to be able to sell the joyousness of brothers just kissing you all over the head physically

in front of people when you've won. It should feel like joy more than I hate my job. He jumped into a pool with your mall Murray. It should feel like joy more than I have the parade's won in two days. I don't want to go. Just saw it's the beyond the harness behind his horse, Dan. This is all a lot. So what did the brothers do when you saw them? Oh, I mean, last night they didn't do anything because they were too busy being drunk and happy. But when they were here in Miami, like I definitely kept my distance.

I love that Taylor sent Juju to go get them and Juju took like five steps and wait a second. Why am I doing this? And turn back, it's getting there. I mean, truly everything that all the old black men in Denver told me, whether it was Mark Spears or Jason Jackson or David Halders, everything they warned me about was absolutely true.

Like, they are real and they are terrifying. What did you guys make of St. Crunky speech at the end of the game when he was being handed the Larry O'Brien trophy? And he forgot how microphones work. And he was having a one-on-one conversation with Lisa Salters. That was so creepy. He's a creepy champion.

He's got a bunch of... I have a creepy champion. With Lisa Salters thinking that they're on the day is and he's just talking to her. He owns the Ram settling. He owns the avalanche. He's had practice. He owns sports right now. He owns the nuggets.

Yeah, he owns Arsenal too. Oh, yeah, they have that. But they don't live. Don't forget about them. Don't forget about mammoth. Oh, they're champions too. Cronk is winning at life, man. Dude, what was up with that? Like I mentioned, he had practice. He knows how these things go. Why is he whispering into these assultors here? Also technically,

technically, he's not the owner of the of the nuggets because of the NFL stupid rule. Yeah, Josh. So Josh should have been the one who got the trophy and did the talking and on stage should have been in the back talking to Lisa Salters the way you wanted to off my. It's a great rule by the way, you can't own a bunch of different things. It sucks.

Pick one team, represent that and do fine. Like capitalism, man, it's, so I went to the road rally at the heat arena and I realized that there are incredible fans here in Miami. And you know what ruins it? It's the fact that they're money, hungry, so that they charge a bunch of money for all the lower bowl seats

and the good fans don't get to be there. Because I was there and I was like, this is the real fan base. Everyone makes fun of. They're a real strong fan base that comes out to a game that they know they're gonna lose and they cheer really hard and have a good time. Those are the people though who, not all of them, obviously, many of them are just die hards, but they are actually grateful to be able to get into the arena at a reasonable price to love their team and celebrate with their team instead of watching on television.

What ruins it is Ryan Cortez. And Mike Ryan. I mean, though, before we get back to what Mike Ryan felt being blocks away here and whether it felt like real menace and threat to go over there and have a hairy damp belly because of how swamp humid it is, you were in Denver last night and what were your big takeaways? The post game show is in the feed. If you want good and serious analysis with some fun about better basketball analysis, then we've done here with Tom Havishrow and assortment, the basketball consortium of

people who are super knowledgeable. But what were your takeaways from being in the middle of it? From the well, first of all, as everyone saw, it was an awful basketball game. It reminded me of game 7 2010, Lakers, Celtics. It reminded me of data 5,000 Kimbo slice. Terrible. It was a terrible, it was a shit show of a basketball game. Hard to watch. If I were, somewhat, if it didn't care about either one of those two teams, I would have turned my television off. I don't want to watch everyone miss all that I think Mike Breene described it vividly as this is mayhem

It there was a point where I tweeted Fesitiously the heat are trying to test whether you can win a get an NBA finals game shooting under 40 percent And then it got lower and they actually took the lead. When Jimmy Butler hit that shot to go up one with under three minutes or so, they were shooting 35% from the field at that point and worse from three point range and weren't getting to the free-to-line. And I just sat there and the whole night,

whether they were up or not earlier in the game, everyone felt like Denver was just kicking their ass. Everyone felt that the whole way. And at that moment I said, oh crap, are they gonna really do this? Because I felt for the first time, no, that's not fair. You guys don't get to win this one, not the way you played. Like there's no part of this, I felt gritty

or like they pulled it out. It just felt like a gift from heaven. Two, three pointers, three free throws, and a short jumper. Like that shouldn't have happened. It made the game ridiculously close for no reason, but seeing that shot from KCP, seeing that shot from Michael Porter, Jr. Those those shot for guys who had struggled all series long, those are big shots.

And those are big moments that are going to take with them forever. And Greg's looking at the clock. Yes. No, yes. Yes. I enjoyed that. I am not the only one that enjoyed the mayhem. I guess it's's looking at the clock. Yes. No, yes. I enjoyed that. I am the only one that enjoyed the mayhem. I guess it's when I saw the head of let Zehler out there with an actual hatchet. Like let's just take our chances. Let's just because what you're trying to do

is you're trying to cut down an excellent excellent tree with a machete. Just send with the will of the Miami Heat. By the way, I just want to point out that Dan Levitar's post-game analysis after game four was injure the giant. He called for Jeff Gulley and a tire iron. Ten seconds, Greg. So what did you think of the game, Greg? What? You're coming to What? You're coming to me to ask? I don't know. I don't know what game. I didn't watch it. That's who you came up with.

Ass on. 10 seconds ahead.