The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Fair Catch, Huh?

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

Spencer Hall joins the show to recap another crazy weekend of college football while validating all of Chris Cote’s ridiculous questions. Taylor gives his UNC football observations and Chris Cote is concerned about Instagram’s “close friends” story feature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlambator Show with the Stugat's Podcast. We had Lando on last week for something that Jess was recording with. And they were complaining like, I was like 89 degrees inside the student. It's like, that is nothing like welcome to America. It's going to be hot as shit for this. I mean, yeah, but I will say this.

They also race in Singapore, which is like just, you know, a hopskip and a jump from the equator. They know what heat is. They're just complaining because they have to do it next to an engine. It's like right here. Yeah. So I get it. It's like, it it next to an engine that's like right here. So I get it. It's like, it gets up to like, I'm trying to convert it.

It gets up to like 120 in those cars. And then you're wearing a fire suit too. It sucks. That voice you hear is Spencer Hall. He is the host of shutdown focus. You get it wherever you get your podcast, college football podcast. He's great. And we will talk some college football here in a just a second.

But right before you came on, and I know you have a question for me about something I was talking about. podcast. He's great. And we will talk some college football here in a just a second, but right before you came on, and I know you have a question for me about something I was talking about. We'll get to that in a second as well. But we were talking about Taylor Swift right before you came on. Do you have any thoughts on that? Are you tired of Taylor Swift? I don't know. Can you be tired of somebody after a two decade run through like American cultural dominance? I think that transcends tired. She's just there, man. She's not for me. I guess important to realize, I don't want to do the sports talk radio thing where you're like, I don't even like her music. Yeah, I'm not

supposed to. That's not made for me. It's like a while, walking to a vegan restaurant and go, you don't have hamburgers. Know your place. Know where you're at. Stay in your leg. Yes. You know what? And I'll say this, Taylor Swift, as far as the public facing Taylor Swift, she's being a good guest for football, right? Yes. She's going home. She's got bracelets. She celebrates. She participates, you know, like, like give her four stars in terms of the participation so far. But do you think we've taken it too far where we're assigning her credit for the chief success? Because that's what people are starting to do. There are way other stupid reasons I've seen for people ascribing football success to

a team. So why not? Yeah. I don't care. If that helps, I'm more the thing I'm fascinated by. Can we watch Swifties really become football experts? This is the gag that you've seen on like like Twitter or blue sky, but like, I know that they started with, you know, oh, he dropped the ball. And I know in six weeks it's

going to be like, okay, listen, they need to switch to a five to front. All right, twist the tackles, fall into man coverage because it's obvious they can't handle pressure up front. I hope we arrive at that. I really do. What was your question for me before we, uh, before we get to the weekend in college football because it was a great weekend in college football. It was. I just want to ask about like the great weekend, do you have every day evidently as part of your life where you get high as hell and go play golf? Yeah. Um, gummy golf. Yeah. Yeah. So if you're taking a gummy and I, I know you're a frequent flyer, but like you forget where your ball is sometimes, right? Yes. Like you just lose that all the time.

Yeah, but I don't care. So here's the thought behind it. I take a gummy when we start it usually kicks in around the seventh hole and I'm playing poorly or playing well. It doesn't matter why because I'm high. And so if I don't find a ball, that's fine. If I put one of the drink, that's fine. You know why?

I'm high Spencer. I feel good. So therefore, I don't get, I don't get nearly as upset at the bad shots. And occasionally I can't find a ball, even if it's right in the middle of the fairway. But you know what, I'm feeling good because I took a gummy. Yeah, I envy you, man, because that whole active and high thing, I tried to say, because there's some people who do that well skiing. And I thought, man, what a great mountain time zone thing to do. I'll, I'll just take an edible and I'll go out there skiing.

Brother, I am not good at either edibles or skiing. And the combination of the two was certainly above my pay grade. I think I just ended up sort of sitting on my butt like a five year old bottom of the hill for a while, which was fine. Still a good time. What is the last time you took an edible? Ooh, I think that was about three months ago.

It's been a minute. George is not quite as easy a poll as say. I know. In Miami, wow, you can acquire anything you want in very short order for cash. Yeah, I know. I got it. I got it. It's not quite as easy a poll. Also, it's just not as frequent a thing for me. Right. I know. I'm more of a stimulant guy. So, but they're the more of an occasional thing. Okay. What surprised you the most here over the weekend, Spencer, in the world of college football? You know how little how little Penn State mattered. It's incredible. Yeah, it's incredible. James Franklin never wins that game. Ever.

Like it's just not happening. I feel pretty good that we've got a data set. You go, well, I don't know man. He's gonna turn the corner. He's got a decade. Does he need another decade? This is like the Jimbo question. And M you go, I'm pretty sure you know what you've got on your hands. Right. I'm pretty sure you know what the outcome's going to be. It's not like things are going to like, you know, in year 11, he's really going to institute the system. That's really when this is going to take. No, you're just going to keep losing this game. I was just to make that how much nothing they had. They put, if you look, they put the whole game on true allure offensively. Yeah, they threw the ball 42 times. Now you say, wow, you throw the ball 42 times in a game where maybe you're behind,

maybe you're trailing. No, this was a tight game. This was like a 10-6 game for much of it. And they let their guy throw 42 times for, I think, like, 4.7 yards per completion. So the amount of nothing they had and their inability to get the ball to either one of their talented running backs who are the best players on offense. I don't know. Like it was just a bad idea as day for them. And I'd like they might beat Michigan. If they went one in one in these games, I think before the season, they would have

felt pretty good about that. They're not doing it. It is not happening. How about Ohio State? Do you feel even in victory? They were not that impressive? Do you feel like that's a playoff team? I think with that defense, they can be a playoff team. I do. And I think Marvin Harrison can bail them out of certain situations. But look, look at this. If that's a household budget, there's not a lot of extra fat there. Okay. We're not getting the deluxe cable package when it comes to points. It's just not they don't have a lot of luxury. They don't have a lot of breathing room when it comes to margins on offense. I like a team that can win a close game. I do. I think how McCord can get better, but that offensive line doesn't have the push. They're super injured

at running back and they have one neat offensive trick that fixes a lot of their problems as long as that's there. They can make a deep run because that defense is carrying the team. I think Michigan is good, but I have no idea if Michigan is good because they haven't played anyone. So what are your thoughts on Michigan? Well, how's this? My line on Michigan has been that they played a bunch of trash, but they're taking it out all in time, and they're taking it out quickly and aggressively. So that's probably the tip, like the take you should have is to go, yeah, I don't know how good they are, but I know this. I know that they haven't faced a goal to go situation yet as a defense, which is ridiculous. They haven't nobody's gotten close. Like their

end zone is a dusty place that needs to be swept because there's been no traffic in it whatsoever. Like they have a great run game and JJ McCarthy has been as good as possible for what they ask him to do. And he hasn't had to do that much. He's a quarterback who you're not going to get him much over 25 attempts. Like you won't see him throw the ball 40 times mostly because they don't need to and also because they just prefer to lead with the run. So I would say this, you put a flyer on him and go, this might be the best team.

I would definitely not say that they are the best team. I would say this and go this might be the best team. I would definitely not say that they are the best I would say this is this might be the best team of the nation. North Carolina loses to Virginia as a 23 and a half point favorite put that in perspective. I think you just did 23.5 man and this is this is by the way you cannot take the ACC out of the ACC like this is just And this is, this is by the way, you cannot take the ACC out of the ACC. Like this is just the, like, you cannot, Mac Brown is going to cough up a game at UNC once a year in the middle of the year for no reason. Like, there'll just be no reason. There's no reason that you've be able to won this game. And yet they did. Like they lose to Georgia Tech. Like UNC lost the Georgia Tech last year for no damn reason.

And this is just, this, it's a feature, not a bug. This is what you get to put in perspective. They're still, they're still always off from auto pilot. Like you want to recruit well and establish a program that can just sort of run on auto pilot and go 10 and two. That's kind of the Mac Brown Texas models, the model everywhere he's been. They're not there because sometimes they still spit the bit and lose to a Virginia team. That was winless in conference, winless in FBS. And their first win, it's not like, like, it's not like, oh man, UVA is about to turn this around, which, to contextualize that a little bit, they lost three games by a single score. So like, they were improving. I don't want to like, and this is a great win for them. How will you, great job? Like,

UVA should feel really, really good about this. And the flip side of this is that the credit for that victory that let's UVA feel real good about this. We can turn around and be like, you and see, you should feel so bad about this. You should feel bad about this for months. Yeah. This is a, this is a kneecapper of a game. Just like, like if the kind of game you watch and like despair is right there as a fan because you know, you're going to do this every year. Uh, Billy, we owe Chris an apology. Yeah. He got mocked for question and he, you know what he did? I don't know. He's a perspective for me.

He did. I didn't think he had that much on it. It was a shitty question. And yet he's such a good teammate that he answered it and answered it well. I mean, that's crazy. Laws. No, I love, I love those questions too, because it'll look, I do. Now, I'm going to say that's actually a good question because it allows you to pay

for it. Yeah. I'm okay. Yeah. It allows you to pay. Jesus. Yeah. I'm up. Yeah. It allows you to frame this up as, how does Mac Brown do this? Like, how can I get in on this hustle where I build a team that is always pretty good, but never great. And someone gives me a lot of money for it.

I got another good question. The pack 12, how? They're the best, man. Like the coolest conference. I'm sorry. This is, this is a lot like how cool. If I don't know if you've ever been to the like going out of business, sail at a store and go, this is a really cool store.

Everything costs three bucks. That's the pack 12 right now. Yeah. Like they are the best. Yes. Yeah, they are the best clear. And like, you know, like the like the abandoned macy's where you're like, yeah, I'm going to take this monkey lamp.

This lamp where it's a monkey holding up a light bulb. It's only three bucks. Like that's every pack 12 game this year. They're great. A lot of things haven't changed. USC still doesn't have a lot of the fundamentals. One would associate with a football program. Lincoln rally is just like, now I don't need that. We don't need a defense. We don't need an offensive line. We've got a high-smotrophy winner. Surely he doesn't need protection. Transaddy does because you told, you told, beat you up all day.

You told, here's the funniest thing that happened this weekend. You taught beat the dog at a USC with the following, okay? A safety playing running back, Cione Vocky was there leading offensive threat, and he was a safety playing running back. They won with a third string quarterback who worked at lows in the off season to make ends meet and who is and who grew up on a pig farm. Yeah. That's and this is the dude who is absolutely waxing USC and Caleb Williams. And they

did this. They did this in the Coliseum, which is, yeah, it's, it's mind boggling how good the pack 12 can be when it's at its best. The SEC West, huh? He is going it. That's just the, yeah, that's another great one. What? I'm just giving greenlights to all of his questions here. You can be like, you can actually walk up with the talk about and I would be like,

hell, yeah, let's go brother. Spencer, I have a question. So James Madison is one of the cooler stories this year, right? Yeah. 6 and 0. Why is there a rule that they're ineligible for the post season or not for the post season for a bowl game? My actual answer is I don't know. I have no idea why we have that rule. I have no idea why they can't actually go for stuff in year one because they have been incredible. That James Madison team did beat UVA. That was like one of their big, big claim, the state kind of victories, right? So obviously, thanks, Mac Brown. Now

that victory means something, right? You're like, oh, listen, James Madison must be incredible. They have a transitive win over UNC, a great team. So, you know, there are, there are some like, I think there are some interesting bureaucratic arguments you can make for why a team coming up can't, you know, win a year one. That's dumb. By the way, if you tell a team they can't compete, like if you put them on probation and you say you can't win a championship and you're not eligible this year, inevitably they just go out there and beat ass. That's, that's it. Like Auburn, Auburn in the one year when they're like, you can't be on TV.

You can't compete for anything. Auburn, like, when I defeated, that to me, if I'm a coach and I hear, yeah, you guys can't actually win anything and can't be on television or compete for the conference championship. I'm like, I'm defeated. Here we come.

All right, more with Spencer Hall coming up right after this. Don Lebertard, let's go to 80. He was bow. Wow. I think Billing Time to an eight instead of a eight. It's a clear thing. All right. Get on. Stugats.

Number eight. He got it. He's Chris Conor on the line. C-C. D-C-C. Don Lebatard show with this two-gats! It's Spencer Hall continues with us. Oklahoma, wow! That's a good point.

It is! Great setup, great execution on the question, Chris. I'm so glad to ask. Oklahoma might be having the season that we thought Texas was supposed to have. And that would be the comeback, we're back, reestablishment of the standard. But I think they've gone a little bit past that because Oklahoma, this is, it is remarkable to me that Oklahoma without having a defense for so long. And you know, that was, that's not what was going to happen under

Brent Venables. He's a defensive coach, one of the best in the nation. They were eventually going to be really good on defense, even playing in the big 12 in their final year there. And they are top 15 defense. They're allowing, I think 16 points of game. They've been incredible. I knew they were going to have an offensive eventually with Dylan Gabriel there because Dylan Gabriel is a great quarterback. But I think with some of the talent they've had and some of the people they got in the portal, they've built a roster that to me feels as complete as Texas and is maybe better coached. Like I think they are executing at a better level right now.

Also that was the game of the year. I know Washington Oregon was really good. Red River, red river is as good as it gets incredible. Spencer, can we end the debate with the nerds talking about advanced scouting? That's what Michigan was doing. You sent somebody out to the game with some binoculars. You check out some of their signs and you report back home. Like that's what we've been doing forever in college sports and regular sports. Yeah. There's nothing like here's to this, if you, if you steal signs electronically, that's the rule that we're talking about here. If you use an, like, the rule is written in kind of an antiquated way, where if you use an electronic device to steal signals,

this thing I'm holding up my hand as an iPhone, that if I was taking pictures, that would qualify as a violation of the rule. So it's kind of an antiquated rule. It's also just something people have been doing forever and it's the reason that you have multiple signals. It's the reason you have those three dudes on the sideline with like red, green, blue, and they're all in the first quarter, the guy in the middle is doing the actual signal. And in the second quarter, it's the guy over here and then we switched that. That's as old as the game itself. Like Paul, you know Paul Johnson, you don't talk about like the most old school answer to this problem

I've ever seen. Paul Johnson would send a guard. He'd rotate a guard and a guard would go to the sideline and Paul would go, we're running a play two. And the guard would run in and then they would huddle and they'd go, Hey, we're running play two. If you want a sure fire away to do this, get your fastest offensive lineman. Okay. Half in puff and puff over. Get the call from the coach and come back in or let me go ahead and get to give you this one. Why don't you have the quarterback call the play on the field himself? Because that's what they used to do bear Bryant. Let Kenny Stabler imagine this a 19 year old Kenny Stabler this day with the Alabama offense.

All right. Call and play is doing. That's what they used to do. So you know, was Michigan cheating? No, I still don't think they were cheating. Do I think that Harbaugh knew about it? I think he would be very surprised to learn exactly how hands-off Harbaugh was about certain aspects of that program.

And what he knows or doesn't know. Sarah Ketch. Huh? Sarah Ketch. Sarah Ketch. Sarah Ketch. Sarah Ketch. Sarah Ketch.

Ketch. I killed it Chris. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. The fair catch.

That is one of those things where I don't understand the overly litigious, like I don't, I like a well-called game. I don't like it when replay comes in and decides they need to play a role in the game and correct something, which if you look, and of course I will fans will do this. We're now, this is one reason that these stories live on to Monday Tuesday and Wednesday, because we have people online who will cut up the other Five Fair Catch signals and go why didn't you call that why didn't you call that why didn't you call that and that's the truth They only made that call because it mattered because Cooper to Jean went on to return that for a TD

And I don't think it was the wrong call. I do think it was the wrong call in the spirit of things because I the wrong call. I do think it was the wrong call in the spirit of things because I think that coming down from replay and overruling that when it you could have overruled another five times in the game, that's overly litigious. It really is, especially when it's such an iffy call to begin with. This is one of those things where you go. What do you want officiating to be? Do you want to call everything? I assure you, you do not want to call everything in a football game. You don't, you can call holding every play, talk to any lineman, and you can call holding on every single play. To me, overturning the result of a game based on a call that fine and that iffy, that's not what we want this to be.

Wait, so you think if that would have been like a 25 yard return, they wouldn't have made the call. I think if it had been a 25 yard return, it would have got, it depends on whether that got him in, honestly, that's turns on, depends on whether that got him in the field range. I forget the field of position, right? But honestly, I think that they might not have looked that hard. They really might not have. And I think that in itself is a problem with it because again, how hard are we are we hammering down on this? Obviously not that hard, right? My opinion is that if you missed the first five and it didn't matter then, then you let the six go because the refereeing, if incorrect, should at least be consistent across the entire level of incorrect, not for that one

particular game changing play. I were on Lucy Rodin was watching. Was that a USC tailgate watching the Iowa games? She's a big Iowa fan. Let's get a reaction. No. Oh my God. And there was. That's about right. That's about right. Wait, I want to try this. What Chris is doing, I want to try because this is journalism. I'm asking it. You mean you are killing you?

You are. You want to get Billy and I apologize. So let me try Chris, okay? Air Force. Sneaky good. Oh, not even sneaky good. They're good. Oh, like they are, they are for, for what they are doing.

And they've been doing it for a really long time. Protecting like, for Calhoun's been there for. And for your service. Yes, yeah. But for what they're doing, they are the best at it. Like 100%. They are what they are what army was like two years ago. They are what navy was five years ago.

This is like, I love any storyline or any stat line where you're looking. You go. So the quarterback passed four times and he went three for four for 178 yards and three TDs. You're like, yeah, that's perfect. That meant that you ran 58 dives. You ran 58 dive plays successfully and then went over the top four times and scored three TDs off of it. So no, they're really good, both offensively and defensively. They'll get killed by any team that has a 300 pound defensive tackle. That's

their lot in college football. That's, that this is as good as this team can possibly be. They're really fun to watch. Lincoln Riley overrated. Not right now. I think we all have Lincoln properly rated brother, but he was overrated, right? Yeah, that's done. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, we wrote that stock down, right? That's happened because you're not getting a defense.

You're not necessarily even going to get a functional offensive line anymore. Then that's only slightly in his control, but like that offensive line, they lost two really important starters from last year. Didn't really replace them. They've got a left tackle and that's about it. Everyone else, if you listen to their offensive line, they lost two really important starters from last year, didn't really replace them. They've got a left tackle and that's about it. Everyone else, if you listen to their offensive line and prior to the Utah game, and this is when you should have known there are problems, when talking about who'd practiced well and who might get playing time, he goes, well, we got this walk on. He's been doing really well. Yeah, you were going to die. Like you were done if you're talking about having a walk on start versus Jonah Ellis, that's not gonna work.

If you ever had a worse bathroom experience than being at an October fest, sad bathroom after a couple of brought worsts and you look down, you're sitting in a stall and you look down, you see someone else's open, sanded foot. I got a picture of it if you can look at your screen now. Colleagues in the neutral zone by the way. This is me, just the sadness of my weekend just hitting me right in the face. Right. How do you feel about this?

Um, so I have had a worst bathroom experience than this, which is I was in China. Right. And they don't have doors on some of the stalls and some of the more rural areas. Mm-hmm. And I squatted down to do my business and had an audience. I had two dudes who were like, hey, look at this. It doesn't happen every day here. Right.

It's just like weird guy with a beard. People who are watching. Just use the facilities. We should just watch. Put it on a show. I put it on a show. He was performing. Yeah.

I had business to do. Right right and it got done. Yeah. I Don't know if I be able to handle my business with people watching. I gotta be honest. I think you should take an animal I felt like the foot was watching me But how do you feel about the foot like once the foot crosses the line and it's in your house? Should I be making noise? Should I be making like a noise like an infraction? Should I be making noise? Should I be making like a noise like an infraction noise? Yeah, right. Right. That that entertain that invites further engagement with said foot.

I mean, I might treat it like a bear. I might be like, well, you're a good foot. Keep moving. Hey, man, you're moving. You're supposed to talk to it. Quite nice with the bear. Like sprinkle some water on them just so it really gets the message. How is he going to know it's water? Yeah.

But she just poop really gets the message. How is he gonna know it's water? Yeah, right. But she just pooped on the foot. Well, it's like I either pee on his foot or I have to put my hand in the water to like spritz him, like even a little. Okay, and pee might be more participation than you want. Yeah. And as much participation as this person wants,

because you never know. Yeah, that's true. Well, you should just establish your dominance and put your foot where his foot is and kind of, oh, like right next to it. Just put, no, no, in his stall. That's what I should have put my shoe dominance. Just like right next to his. I did. Man, that man, the open toe into the bathroom is it happens. It's necessary. It's,

it's rough. It's rough. It's circumstantially. It's not what you want to start with. Spets are all college football seasons. Get down to one question. Who's better? Alabama or Georgia? Who's better? This is like the old, some soccer thing. We'll decide the best soccer team in the world between Spain or Portugal. Yes. Yeah. This is a Georgia is much better at this point. And they're, they're a complete team. Alabama still has. Alabama is cool this year because Nick gets to coach and he gets real happy when he has problems. Sure. Like he has all kinds of problems. That makes him real happy because he gets to yell about it and he feels necessary. They've still got some like glaring obvious issues, even though they've improved over the course of the season. George, even without Brock Bauer's who's

out for, out due to a lower leg injury, I like the way have to say lower leg injury, by the way, like, because you know, they get real cagey about injuries like he has a lower leg injury. Yeah, they will look what part of the lower leg and they're like just the vague the whole lower leg area.

Oh, we had to operate on the entire area all at once. But even without Brock Bowers, they've just they're so deep and they've got so much talent and they have a pretty nice way of doing things right now. You know, they throw a lot of short passes. They end games by running out the clock on, you know, a like one or two score lead with a defense that's more than capable of protecting it. They're not real flashy right now. They're not last year's team at all. If you want to

look, by the way, for where a lot of that offensive potential went, that sort of, you know, quick strike, high scoring offense, that's super efficient kind of offense they had. It's a Baltimore right now. It's with Lamar Jackson, which should give you an idea, by the way, of how good Todd Munkin is at his job because they went there and Lamar is quietly having the best season of his pro career. It explains a lot because you go, well, how did stats had been? It happened. And you go, he had really great coaching. He was obviously really talented, but they put him in a great position to succeed. And that's something that Georgia hasn't been quite as good at this year. But they've been very efficient, right? The numbers aren't too far off in terms of like overall efficiency. So I would say Georgia, that's

my long, my long answer is, is Georgia. Okay. Shut down, focus. Check them out there. Spencer Holley's always there for us. We appreciate it during a very busy time for him. So thank you, Spencer. Yeah. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, Chris. Yeah. Thank you, Max you everybody. Thank you Chris. Yeah, thank you, man. Thank you. A little perspective. Thank you Chris. Yeah, thank you. Come on, Spencer. Thank you. Chris, thank you Chris. Thank you can afford. And bundling home and auto, that's a pro move and just another way to save with State

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but I'm just not a big fan of it. And I don't even really know why. I just feel, I've never selected who my close friends are. I've been put on some people's close friends list where I'm like, wow, I didn't even know we were close and yet I'm able to see your close friends. Did even know we were friends. Right, so it's just, I just don't wow, I didn't even know we were close. And yet I'm able to see your close friends. Did even know we were friends. Right. So it's just I just don't like that feeling by the way.

When you see a green person and you're like, wow, I wouldn't have put this person on my close friends. I'm just like, wow, this person thinks like we're close friends. This is nice. I don't have you on anything. Do you do close like, I'm actually, because I don't see you ever do close friends. I don't know. I don't have any close friends. Oh, you guys are my close friends. Actually, that's a good one. The people out there, if you don't see their close friend stuff, are they just not doing it? Or am I not on their close friends. Actually, that's a good one. The people out there, if you don't see their close friends stuff, are they just not doing

it? Or am I not on their close friends? That's the stuff. I start doing the math in my head. I'm like my friend Joey's like one of my best friends. I've never seen his close friends real. So in my mind, I'm thinking he better not be doing a close friends that I just don't see.

And it's just I just I just don't like the what? It feels very high school of like these are my followers, but now these are my most important followers. And it's just I don't like it. Is there a chance that you and Joey have a totally different interpretation of your relationship? No, no, is it a chance that Joey, Joey said it about you. That is true. Right.

I think I would bet a lot of money that he's just not using the function of what do you use the close friends for? I don't use it. I never post because I have subscribers if you want to subscribe to my Instagram. So sometimes I will do my subscription story, but I never do close friends. I'm not doing this in a while. It's a slow burn. Well, you guys don't subscribe to me, so you wouldn't see it.

He does if he just says he doesn't see it. I'll think you do. No, no, no, I just haven't seen a subscriber one because you feel like, that's what I do a promo for. Back in the day, I would do a story where it just haven't seen a subscriber one because you feel like, that's what I do a promo for. Back in the day, I would do a story where it's like, hey, if you want more of this, that's what he's talking about. What are you charging for that?

Like a cheaper than an expensive cup of coffee? No, but what is, I've heard that before, but not so much. Okay, but what do you actually charge, I'm like? I think it's 4.99. And how many subscribers do you have? In the, I got, that's like dozens. Dozens. And what are you providing those dozens of people?

A few stories a week. I'm trying to figure out what... No, you're not. I'm trying to figure out what a week. What? Like, I looped... Two of them. Two of them.

Two of them. It's peanuts. 70 bucks, 80 bucks. Yeah, it ends up being like a hundred and change per month. I had someone... That's why it's not really worth my time That's why I don't really dedicate more time. Whoa, I mean I know a person Yeah, I need once I get to like over a hundred than we're talking well

No, that you're you're just telling the people that are in on the ground floor that they're not valuable to know It's a slow burn though. Yeah, I'm convinced if we chip away at this it will be one a month like Like, I'm not great at it. He has said it's a slow burn. And the subscribers have gone down because it's just because they realize it's a way to make people are, I just like the idea of like people have these like big documents with all their weekly expenses and they're like someone's wife is just like, what the hell is that? That's at 499. That app that like automatically cancels things has to kill you.

That has to not be good for you at all. You have families having that as part of their family. I have to be low down. $4 is not nothing. I have to be so low down on this depth chart of expenses. Right. So you have to be holding the first glance. You're just hoping that people forget.

I mean, that is the whole thing. It is. I had a meeting with someone that they launched this app. And the first person I thought of was Tony. And I didn't know if I could do it or not, but I don't care anymore. So I think I'm just gonna reach out to the person and do it again.

Oh, it ends up? No. So it's an app where you, people can tune in and watch you live, debate someone else for 10 minutes on any topic that you want. Oh, I love that. And I thought, you know what? Like, I think I want, and I told them,

like, oh, you know, I'm gonna ask her, I'll see whatever. And I think I may reach back out to the guy. I'm off then. And see if me and you can have a weekly debate on whatever. And we'll figure out what it is. Dude, I love that. And it's just, we just,

minimum is 10 minutes once a week. We can argue forever, though. So we can just pick minutes, once a week. We can argue forever though. So we can just pick a topic once a week and we can set up the day that we do it. I'm gonna reach out to the person, I'm gonna put you in contact with them, and then I'm gonna try to get the fans to sign up for this, because there's live voting,

and you can vote who it is, and who's losing on this app. Yeah, it's a good idea for an app. Yeah, I love it. I'm gonna look back into this tomorrow, and then I'm gonna tell everybody, and then I'm gonna see if maybe there's like a whole cameo situation where I sign you guys up and get a little bit of Cameos doing not the point the point is what do you mean cameos doing that?

Yeah, they used to be huge in the pandemic that you have like 40 employees and they're there for 400 employees I'm like 30 according to something that I'm saying and one of you have dried up no wonder they wonder they no wonder having been getting texts from our boy So since shout out to add I was gonna know for a second. I didn't say one thing either. I have this weird thing now. You're badty, right? He's the cat.

Yeah, the cat is it. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Maybe not anymore, we don't know. I don't know if this is probably bad and probably not good for my mental health, but I filter all of the things that I want to do on social as if Billy was watching it, which is really bad.

That makes me feel so bad. Because it's like, I go to post something like Billy would tell me nobody wants to see this. So I'm not gonna post it. It's in your head. So I locked the Billy filter. The Billy filter. So I have like the subscriber thing now

because I passed a certain threshold or whatever, so we're like, oh, you can get subscribers. I'm like, all right, cool. Why not? I did notice this and I haven't mentioned it. I did notice that Chris subscribes the Twitter blue now. I don't know when I did that. I noticed the other day too, I was like,

where did I get a blue check mark? It was something, it was like, oh, right. I think it was like, you click on it and it says you pay for Twitter. I think it was your credit card. It's actually right. Who do you have to pretend like? What do you mean?

I think why I did it was like a limit. You get to tweet longer tweets or something. There was some reason where I was just like, trying to do something. Some big in this decision. I was trying to do something and I was stopped and they were like, you need to be Twitter blue and I like clicked it, Apple pay, instant and I was just like, all right, I'm in. Listen, super, you probably did it because you couldn't get like super subscriber, whatever

without it and you wanted to do that. Is that what you. This is for you. Chris Cody is not paying for Twitter blue because he wants to be verified and he wasn't verified before. He's doing it for you so that he can deliver to you longer content that he's not actually doing once a month. Right.

Thank you. Why is Taylor in here? Why are you in here? I guess. This is the only other person that left it to our left behind. You'll be back in the studio. We can now play basketball. We got five.

We got five. We got five. We got five. We got five. That's what we brought him in. We got five. We got five. You went see. Yeah, lost. That's what we brought him in. So we laughed at him. Minus 23. He loves UNC. He loved that Mac Brown was on God bless football last weekend. He thought UNC was going to get locked in.

He was in a control room locked in for that interview. I was so excited. I can't believe you guys didn't let him take part in it. That's kind of messed up honestly. I was wondering that too. Why didn't he? I don't know. I mean, he didn't ask.

He could have. Yeah. I would have said we did it for Christmas. That's why. If you't he? I don't know. I mean, it didn't ask. He could have. Yeah. I would have said it. We did it for a sims. That's why. You would. One more slot receiver for Wednesday.

You haven't answered the question. What are you doing here? Yeah. I'm here for my Carolina observation. Oh, good. Very good. We don't have stews up every week. Every week.

We've got talons up every week. As we do every Monday. Just quickly, I need a Dan for my observations. I realized that last week. It felt very empty. So I have asked Dan Olofsky to sit in tomorrow as Dan Levitort. What a waste of his time.

What name is Taylor? It's an assortment. All the waste of his time. What name is Taylor gonna say at the beginning of this? The Tony. Oh. Are you doing it that way? Yeah.

You actually have notes. Do you need imaging? How's this work? You want the meat? Just the beef. Okay. Just the beef. Wait, but exciting. But quickly, Taylor, you write down like an assortment of notes after every Carolina game, right?

Your game is... He does a post game show for Carolina. All right. He does a Carolina podcast. I'm sorry. If he's a fourth receiver, nothing gets done in North Carolina without Taylor saying... Chris, Chris, why was my reporter, cadence?

What's that on the pole? Does anything get done in Los Taylor's? I mean, he's told, let's nitpick. He's told, let's nitpick from He's told let's nitpick from the Parliament. It's near the top of Hill. Okay. All right, Taylor. So deliver these however you you imagine you would deliver these Stu Make no mistake about it Losing a game they had no business losing North Carolina football is back

football is back. This needs music. I gotta say that out of it. It's too tough. It's too tough. It's too tough. It's too tough. It's too tough. It doesn't even have to be the

stagotch music. It's okay. Maybe Tony sings. Maybe Tony sings. What do you have to sing? What do you have to sing? What do you have to sing? Did you see?

I saw that there's like a new CSI or SVU or one of those things. Sydney. Like they're about to stick to the CS. I saw the same story. It's about different cities. They Sydney, like they're about to think. Yeah, yeah. And the same story. It's about different cities. They said something like love, naval war crimes.

And see I.S. I was like, wait, what? That's the show's about. Well, here's the thing that I don't understand about this. Are they actually filming in Sydney? And is it just that like the producer just wants to live in Sydney? So like, how do we? They're not producing in Sydney.

That can't be right. No way. It's got to be a set. It's like FBI International. They're doing it right here. I mean, you can't get? No way. It's got to be a set like FBI international legitimate right here I mean get out of here to scam. Okay North Carolina football is not back To being in the national conversation. Why isn't my button was never in the national conversation? This time for a school guy to share his game notes

Mutual one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy's stew. Hey, stew. Yes, make no mistake about it. Losing a game. They had no business losing. North Carolina football is back to not being in the national conversation.

Just a note, I was not asked to say one word. The week following. Beat you and see beating Miami. Wow. By the way, we can observations brought to you by Miller like excellent. You were you were silenced. Ray tastes. I was captured. Who censored you? Right. Probably my grind. Taylor, here's the key. Definitely my right. Taylor, here's the key. Just keep your head down. Okay. Hey, you just keep plowing forward. All right. Six and O. Yes. At home and O at home ranked in the top 10. A 23 and a half point favorite.

A historic offense, a generational quarterback, an improved defense, all for the worst loss in school history against the Virginia team that had only one win this season against William and Mary, the tribe. He calves. Let that breathe a little bit, let that breathe a little bit before the tribe next time. I'm racing against this clock right now.

Yes, you're fine. How many did you do? The end in North Carolina, Stanford, never have I ever been this embarrassed by a loss. And I was once on the team when we gave up 70 points to ECU. Wow. Up double digits in the second half, the sea in North Carolina stands for Choked. Yeah, wow. A week after an emotional win against a top 25 Miami team,

the T-Antarheals stands for trap game. Wow. I'm not sure how, but I'm convinced this is somehow God bless football's fault for having Mac Brown on last week and then losing the next day. Yeah, it curves. You don't know what rock bottom is until you're watching your top 10 team lose on the CW. What?

CW has football. I couldn't find it. Also, F Boy Island now in CW. You don't know what rock bottom is until you're watching your top 10 team lose on the CW as they cut away from Keenan Stadium to a Tim Allen sitcom rerun. Omar in Hampton, the ACC's leading rusher, only getting five carries in the second half and not touching the ball the final eight and a half minutes in a one-score game. What the hell? Speaking of hell.

Yeah. Our prouds. Yes, dude. Those are the Carolina observations. Every week now. Well, I don't know about that. Well, it's all damn good. Yeah, good luck doing that.

Let's have the one day we'll lead with Dan back. We'll lead Dan, we got a new segment for you. Carolina observations with Taylor. We're really spreading our wings while you're with Dan. We really took some chances while you were gone. You want to watch people grow, you know? You wanted us to do sports. Yeah.

We're doing sports. Exactly right. We really honed in on North Carolina. The tribe. Monday again. Did they play this week? Georgia Tech. Oh, I don't know how to forest for them going to Atlanta.

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