The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Five Good Minutes With Dan (feat. Dan Patrick and Matthew Berry)

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

The crew is trying to figure out a proper way to respond to Rob Manfred stealing Stugotz's idea for the Golden At-Bat. Should Stu sue Major League Baseball for a violation of his intellectual property rights? Then, Matthew Berry is here to discuss disappointing fantasy football performers, unreliable texters, and how he uses his sources to help fans with their fantasy lineups which Dan believes should be illegal. Plus, Dan Patrick pleaded with us to let Dan join him in the middle of us trying to do the show to discuss Miami and the CFP, and after we agreed to join, he only gave Dan five minutes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dan Lebatard Show with the Stugats podcast. This episode of the Dan Lebatard Show with Stugats is presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff Company, New York, New York. Stugatz, I feel uncomfortable whenever one of our heroes and mentors, Dan Patrick, shows up with his team,

his army of professionals to request something of us, and our people start pinballing against each other to to make everything right for the other Dan the serious Dan right and I don't like what happens around here in terms of a whole lot of frenetic planning for a segment and I don't know how to do that segment with Dan Patrick because I kind of, Jessica, and Mike to just spill all over his show instead of us just gaspagging about college sports. But I'm also afraid that they'll get so serious that they'll do a very serious sports segment

for Dan Patrick today. And I don't really want to do that either. As we look, we're teaming up and partnering with Dan Patrick and peacock on a number of things Mike. I don't want to announce anything beforehand That's a right judgment Thank you we're making up we're making a lot of things that we want to do with Dan Patrick and his team because we're big admirers But I don't want to take sports talk so seriously that we have to do sports talk the way that pillar of professionalism

Dan Patrick does it but our messiness Soils his integrity and his show's name when we appear We can't physically keep the lights on around here because he's doing it differently than we are. Dan, he asked for you in terms of media personalities that are so closely associated with the University of Miami. You're probably number two behind me. I want to throw the show to you guys as characters. We'll figure out how to do it. I don't know when we're going to do it. During the break though, Stu Gotz was making a lot of Ward Manuel jokes, a lot of jokes about the name ward manual a big surprise to me

his first name and his last name both first names and last names like anderson cooper we were too obsessed with this a couple of weeks ago i didn't even notice it when it made its way past us here you guys want these power brokers in college sports to continue being power brokers in college sports these continue being power brokers in college sports. These wards and these like literal wards. What Greg and I want, we want to discuss the golden bat as well, but what we want out of

the committee is for whoever the head of the committee is every year to be named ward manual. Whether their name is ward manual or not, that's really the job title. You're the ward manual of college football of the committee because it's a perfect name. We're not going to do better than that. It's literally means caretaker, right? A ward. The word means you're a caretaker for college sports. He also looks like that physically like a bodyguard for college sports who is aged. You're saying he's like the Dread Pirate Roberts. Like you assume the title when you get

the job. There's multiple of them, right? Yes. You get the Ward Manual. That's the job, the most powerful man in sports. I want Reese Davis to introduce, if it's a guy named Tom Davis, to introduce him as the Ward Manual of the College Football Committee. Exactly. And the surname works as well because a manual is your guide for how to do things right. You're opening up the manual. Look at him. Wow. Look at that. Words coming together Yes, Ward manual, but it's actually Ward Manuel. It's also the old rare Silent e at the end of Ward. I don't like that. No, I don't either. I don't like this guy

Don't trust it. It should be warty. It becomes wordy Too wordy. Yeah a little too wordy. Yeah yeah on that name see what he did there you know what that's perfect that joke is perfect stood out the golden at bat stolen from you by the commissioner baseball how do it we thought we've got to tell dan patrick about that right but we've got us we've got to tell them that somebody needs to make this a national controversy because we just

proved it to you. Like, baseball has stolen Stugatz's idea after laughing his idea out of the room along with me, by the way. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Thanks for your support. Yeah, really. But we are glossing over. This is a really interesting topic and a really interesting rule change, and we're glossing over it. The first question I have is, if you are the guy that gets the golden at bat, do you go up to home plate with a gold bat? Because I think you should. If we're going to do it, let's do it. The second thing is, Dan,

you have scenarios here where you can start questioning managers' decisions. They suddenly become more important. Like, why didn't he go to the golden at bat in that spot? Why did he give it to that guy and not that guy? You can have a scenario in a best of seven series where a guy like back in our day with the Royals, Buddy Biancalana was having a hell of a series. Do you use the Golden at bat on a guy who's having a hot series or your actual best hitter? In the case of the Royals back then, it would have been George Brett. What a fascinating rule that I

came up with for Major League Baseball. If you're in the seventh inning and it's a big spot, do I use it now? Do I save it for the ninth? Right? Yes. So many decisions. I mean, managers are suddenly important again. Can I just say there's

no shot that this actually happens, right? Oh, I think it's happening. I think it's happening. I think I think it's happening. I think he's just doing this looking for a little off season. He wants to get the sport in the news. I gotta tell you the

feedback from what I listened to and what I listened to was the morning show on ESPN radio and thank you to them for giving me the credit that I deserve. They actually did. They said this is an idea that was floated about by Stu God's,

okay? Thank you. But the reception, the reception to this rule has been positive. Great. Now all of a sudden baseball embraces change. It's always been terrible at that. They wanted to put Spiderman logo on the bases for millions and millions of dollars to sell a movie and baseball said, no, no, too precious for that. Do you think the guy should have a golden bat? Let not only that Stu gots, not only that, Stugatz. Not only do I have gold helmets. Stugatz, I guess, I would say, you can't do what you're doing here more enough. Not just smoke, golden balls too, throughout the at bat. Like, absolutely, and those balls.

Those who's on board now. No, no, all four. So now this is the final act. No, if you're gonna, no, look. If you're gonna, look, baseball. If you're gonna embrace change, okay. If you're gonna make Stu Gots a visionary pioneer on accepting all change,

I would go ball pits in the outfield. I would go, yes, land mines in the outfield as well, if you wanna make it, if you wanna really be violent. If you wanna make it more, if you really wanna pass football, you're gonna have to do it that way, because look, this is in our DNA. Conquering of land and stuff, this is in our d a it's why we love football so

much less than landmines in the outfield may have more violent they have more football baseball doesn't have enough concussions i believe we can agree on that we do we have any more you too have to help me make this a national controversy with dan patrick because uh... still gots right now is ruling sports. Like he's offering rule changes and baseball is like, yep, okay, we'll take your idea and

it's a good idea. And it's a good idea for all the reasons you mentioned. It creates more conversation around we can question the manager. You want to put as many of those in the game as possible. Oh my God, yes. Wow. I mean, the potential for controversy here. Imagine you're in a Dodgers World Series game.

It's the eighth inning. Ohtani's coming up, but he's having a bad series and he's over four today with three strikeouts. You got Gavin Lux, the second baseman. He is hitting 438 in this series. He's four for four today. You gotta sit Ohtani. And this is why they're not gonna do this or let anyone criticize.

That is hilarious. Can you imagine if that played out though? That is hilarious. And it begs the question, you kind of brought it up before, do you go with the hot, like the random guy that's three for three? There's a threshold. Ohtani's not the threshold. That's correct. But the owners are in favor of this I thought her Manford was quoted as saying this this has a lot of support from owners Why are you guys dismissing the possibility that baseball would do this? I'm dismissing it because of what he said in that original clip We don't make rule changes that are going to

Just affect the numbers in the history game now all the best players are gonna get like a hundred extra at bats Yeah, but the numbers don't mean anything anyway. He knows that. They do, though. What happened during that interview is he heard a good idea. He stashed it away, created some distance from me. And then I'm certain several people in Major League Baseball circles were calling him saying, Rob, that's actually a good idea.

He said, hey, we need to create distance from Stugats. I'll unleash it in about seven years. And here we are today with my role, the magic of that. What can we do other than just make noise about it? We don't have any- That's about all we can do. Well, why don't we get Drake's attorneys and embarrass ourselves by just filing lawsuits?

How do we make a big public mess of this? Do we sue, do we call our attorney and sue Major League Baseball for stealing, for the intellectual property of Stu Gotz, which is like that. This is not a bad idea. Like, Stu Gotz owning intellectual property, something called intellectual property. I mean, he wrote a book. Please help me.

I wrote a book. Please help me make this a national controversy on Dan Patrick, and please help me make this a national controversy on Dan Patrick and please help me establish who your characters are going to be. I'm not gonna introduce you as Mike Ryan, Jessica and Jeremy. Give me characters that I'm introducing. We're gonna fool them?

I was gonna say, this is kind of, have Dan connected a lot, like they want you. They want you. They know when they ask for you with the assorted cast of characters. The test given to Fritzy was to get Levitore. Can you mic everybody? Can we get, we have mics.

We're in control of what goes through our board. And we've always done that. Now, there is some pushback here. I have the original sound of our show, the first time we ever talked about the Magic at Bat. Now yesterday, we were giving credit to Stu Gotz and Billy. In this clip, you know, there's other people that seem to have come up with this idea first.

Let's listen to this. Whoa, you're wrong. What I was saying, what Mike and, Mike Ryan and I were discussing is, I think one of the problems with baseball, Dan, and no one's really talking about it, is everyone sitting here trying to fix something that I think is probably unfixable,

but everyone's trying to fix it. The real problem with baseball is, when you go to a basketball game, you go to a Cavs game, you're gonna see LeBron James for 90% of the game, and he's gonna give you 27, eight and eight, and you're probably gonna see a dunk or a pass that you've never seen before, and you're gonna leave happy.

When you go to a baseball game, an Anaheim-Angel game, you're gonna see Mike Trout every third inning. He has a better chance of going 0-4 than he does going 4-4-4 with a home run and four RBIs. And you're gonna see Howie Kendrick just as much as you get to see Mike Trout. I go to a Cavs game, I'm not gonna see John Lucas III. I'm only going to see LeBron James. John Lucas III is a backup guard.

I know you're having my jacket right now on the Cleveland Cavaliers. I'm not gonna see him. I'm gonna see LeBron. So what I'm trying to figure out, Mike and I are trying to figure out is I wanna go in an angel game and I wanna see Mike try to re-initiate possible. What are the magic at bats? How are you doing the magic at bats?

Like each manager has like four or five magic at bats in his back pocket. All right, so let's say it's like second, let's let Mike Trout gets out in the first inning. But in the second inning, it's second and third and there's one out. He has the option in that spot of putting Mike Trout back in the game. You see Mike Trout two innings a row. Genius. That's his idea. And his idea allows for a certain amount of theatrics. Like you could like throw like, like something like, like a, like a, like a smoke bomb or

something magic at bad time. Like you throw out the smoke bomb onto the field. Yeah, yeah. Okay, a smoke bomb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like a little firework, like a little cherry bomb. Magic. Yeah. All right, time for a magic at bad time.

Oh, Mike Sosha! The smoke is on the field! Mike Sosha has thrown the smoke bomb! Time for a magic at bad! It's a lot cooler aesthetically than like a red challenge flag. And they're trying to appeal to a younger audience. Imagine how much a younger audience would love the smoke bomb.

And then there's Mike Trout coming out, emerging from the smoke bomb. That's proof. What's the date stamp on that? 2014. Oh wow. August 2014. Amazing. I mean, I gotta sue, right?

Well, you have to sue. One of the other problems we have though is now David Sampson is claiming it was his idea that you stole it from him. What? From David Sampson? I've never stolen a single thing from David Sampson. He has nothing that I would want. I mean, get out of here. Sampson, please, I stole it from him. Isen stole it from me. I mean, that's the only thief in this game is Isen and Rob Manfred.

I didn't steal anything from David Sampson. Not a single thing have I ever stolen from David Sampson. David Sampson calling me a thief. That is rich. I mean, you both I would like that sofa. That's a baseball glove, though. I would love that thing.

I mean, it's awesome. I don't know where you got that. You you steal from Some great sentences there. You thieves, the two of you calling anyone else rich when both of you have gotten so rich off your thievery. Right, but I have proof, Samson. There's no proof. No proof.

I don't know what he's claiming. I just, beyond saying that he is mad at you taking credit for something he thinks is- Was he doing a show in 2014 credit for something he thinks was he doing a show in 2014 just out of curiosity was he because i was was he was still stealing money from taxpayers right calling me a thief ha rich he's gonna take so much exception to that howdy folks it's mike and guess what it It's Miller time. The holiday season brings around lots of joy and also lots of family, lots of family gatherings at your home. You're inviting people in there and you want to make sure they're happy. Why don't you make their

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Fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer. Don Lebatard. Baker Mayfield tearing up Tampa Bay 38 for 45. Stugats. Shred him. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. I need some help from an expert here, Stugugatz because there is something happening in America's

most popular sports that I believe is being under reported. It is not getting nearly enough attention and it's that the defensive backs with the highest grades in the sport are all white. So I brought in a white man, Matthew Barry to come on here and on behalf of peacock Join us and explain to us what the hell is going on that this can happen quietly in the NFL where the defensive back position has been overtaken by Riley Moss and Harrison Smith and that fast dolphin That's faster than Tyree kill Ethan Bonner and and and who the hell how is this happening? Did weren't we talking last year about I was Cooper Cooper de Jean we were talking about that guy was gonna dominate

Those are the four highest grades going into Sunday Matthew. Good to see you. What the hell's happening? You know what? It's it's been a weird year, Stu Dan. It's been an unbelievably weird year top to bottom So just add this one to the list for sure. What is Weirdist? Tell me why you're seeing weird everywhere you look. I just think, you know what, listen, at the end of the day we're talking about a sport that is played with a leather ball in a oblong shape. Weird stuff is going to happen and you've got 22 men trying to fight over that ball in some way, shame,

form or fashion. And it's a game that's not officiated consistently. And so something that's legal in one game isn't legal in the next and it's all over the place. And so I think just all those things combined, plus the schedule is weird, right? You've got Friday games and Monday games and Thursday games and Saturday day games and it just, it's all over the place.

So, but it's fun. That's why we love the sport, it's why we follow it and it keeps you entertained. It is so good what he's saying because you do realize, given that there are only 11 minutes of action and most of it is going for it from first to second to third and goal, like three inches at a time, it's as random as us dropping a football from a helicopter

and just having 11 guys on each side just run at each other and try and fight over it. I mean, I will tell you, I have had in my career, and I know you guys have sources as well, I have literally had coaches that are sources for mine that will text me and saying, this guy's gonna have a huge game. This guy is, we have found something in the defense

and we think this guy is somebody that we're going to we're going to really target and he's going to have a great game and I don't want to give up my source. So I go on TV and I'm like, I got to start this guy. This guy's gonna be huge game blah blah blah for whatever stats that I have, but I know secretly the coaches told me. Oh, yeah, we're targeting this guy and you know first play he drops one next time, you know, and then he has some dumb penalty. And next thing you look up at the end of the game,

he's two for 16 on three targets. I just, I like, I've had NFL coaches tell me, like we planned on this. This is what we practiced all week. And then it doesn't go anywhere near what they expect. This seems like insider trading. I don't know, this guy, how are you supposed to win against this guy in his damn leagues?

Like if he's going out there. Stugats, you wanna ask him who his sources are? I do, who are they, man? How does this work with you? Are you somebody who's actually soliciting fantasy advice? Like are you, is it, are they, you're not gonna answer Stugats' question of who it is, but are they people who are who like fantasy.

They are they are not I mean it depends on you know, I mean I've sources all over right it and so it was and I'm not claiming that I'm like a Mike Loria or a Shepter anyone like this where I have the kind of sources that they do but I have I have enough and I don't ask a specific fantasy question. I asked a football question, but they know who I am and they know what I do and they understand why I'm asking. And so, you know, I might say something like, you know, you know, pick a player you guys are Miami

I might say something like, again, I'm not claiming I have dolphin sources but just like I might say something I love what you guys are doing with a Chan Do you think he continues to get the majority of the workload or you're gonna see some most certain Jalen right mixed in? You know, I mean like I'll ask it I'll ask sort of a football question that but that I will then interpret for fantasy that kind of stuff It's a leading question is the whole things are bogus sham He's out here cheating and it's insider trading and the man's got all access to all the good things you want in this sport. I'll tell you a story. I remember when I first got to ESPN, I joined this league that was what's called the famed War Room League, which is all the NFL experts and reporters and insiders, everything like that.

I remember one time, and Trent Dilford, this was when Trent was at the at the team and at ESPN and Trent was in the league and I remember texting Trent and I were trying to do a running back for wide receiver trade and I was trying to get a running back from him for a wide receiver and he's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds good. That sounds fair. Let's let's let's finalize it this afternoon. I'm like, okay, got it. And so that afternoon I text I said, hey, Trent, are we good for this trade? I'll send it through and he goes, no, no, deals off. And so that afternoon I texted him and said, hey, Trent, are we good for this trade? I'll send it through. And he goes, no, no, the deal's off. And I go, why is the deal off?

And he goes, well, I talked to his quarterback. He hates him. You know, he hates the wide receiver. And so I'm just like, oh, great, there you go. And it just sort of let me know that I was kind of in a different world there as well. And I'll tell you guys off air who the quarterback and wide receiver were. But yeah, and that wide receiver didn't last on that team very long. So, uh, it is uh, you know things like that happen But it should be illegal all of this should be illegal. I don't think matthew barry should be allowed to do any of this

But what i'm trying this is what i'm trying to tell you dan is that like you you'd think You'd think it would be illegal and that I have the answers to the test, but it doesn't often happen. It doesn't always happen that way. It sometimes goes awry. I'll quickly tell you my favorite fantasy football story of all time. I've told this before. I've written about it, and it's not even my story, but this will go to exactly what we're

talking about. So, my friend Matt Hasselbeck, who I worked with for many years at ESPN as well. Matt played fantasy when he was with the Seattle Seahawks. And in 2009, hang on though, this is worth it for the story. All right, look. And so Hasselbeck in 2009 drafts himself and his former Green Bay Packard teammate Brett Favre as his quarterback that year. That was the first year Favre was in Minnesota. If you remember Favre was awesome his first year in Minnesota NFL and fantasy wise.

Week five of that 2009 season Hasselbeck has a decision. Favre is playing the Rams who are one of the worst teams the NFL that year and he's playing the Jaguars. Hasselbeck's playing the Jaguars who have won two straight. Hasselbeck has missed the previous two games with a back injury. And so he decides to bench himself in fantasy and start Brett Favre. In that season, that particular game, Favre throws just one touchdown pass against the Vikings. He throws in an interception. Adrian Peterson has a huge game. Favre finishes the 18th best quarterback in fantasy that way. Meanwhile, Matt Hasselbeck throws four touchdown passes, like 250 yards, finishes the 18th best quarterback in fantasy that meanwhile matt has a back

roseport touchdown passes like two hundred fifty yards finishes the week as the number one quarterback in fantasy the c-hawks wax the jaguars sitting on his own bench uh... and uh... have to think about that we think about that for a second hassle back had uh... had watched all the film he knew the game plan

he was touching the ball on every offensive play. He could audible at any moment. Matt Hasselbeck had as much control over a fantasy football game as any fantasy manager in the history of the game and still got it wrong. Hey, Matt told me that story and I said, I love that story and he's given me the permission to tell it and so I've written about it and I've told that one before.

But like, I mean, that's the ultimate story. Like again, you think you know what's going to happen and then it just doesn't. So this week we had a weird play in just the NFL and in fantasy in the hook and ladder play where Josh Allen both gets a passing touchdown and a receiving touchdown in the same play, which I'm sure had fantasy implications for a lot of people now coming towards the end of the season.

Can you think of a play just for personal experience or stories that you're like, how did they do that in this play? How did they get so many points? Worst case scenario, no one could have seen this coming. I don't know that any one specific play. I mean, there's definitely been like, you know, nutty plays over the years.

I don't know if there's any one specific play that I can think of that is like, you know, how'd they get the most points? I mean, that was sort of crazy, right? Is that Josh Allen becomes, I think, like only the third player in history. Hold on a second. Hold on a second, Matthew. Give me a second. I'm gonna have to kick him out of the room. Minor penalty two minutes, asshole. I mean, not for being an asshole.

Not you, Matthew. The way that he framed it, too, was like, you had to cite a specific example. When there's been plenty of weird plays that affected, like, the Brian Westbrook play, where he takes a knee before crossing the goal line. That had huge fantasy implications. Yes, but give Matthew credit, because he was trying to play along. I mean he was. You knew it was a ridiculous question, right? Not just ridiculous, so he didn't have a good answer. And I guess he's just asking you sort of

for a legendary bad beat story after you just gave one that is the most legendary one. So it becomes a bit hard to come up with whatever second place is to that particular story. I will say though, you know, you mentioned that Brian Westbrook play. I wrote about this one in my book, which is there's a big league of casino owners where where they buy and this was whatever this is like, you know, 20 years ago, but there was a the buying in that league, at least for that year, the Brian Westbrook here was $100,000 and And like whatever, 12 team league. And so a guy, I met one of the guys in that league

and he was telling me about that. And that play, if you guys remember, it was in the fantasy playoffs and Brian Westbrook is, it's going against the Cowboys and he's on his way down and he's got a touchdown right there. And at the very last second, he takes a knee to preserve the win for the Eagles,

but doesn't score the touchdown. And so I talked to him and this guy tells me he's like what was your reaction? And he was like down five and he had Westbrook and it was his last player so if Westbrook scores the touchdown he wins his semi-final matchup and he just turns me goes yeah that knee cost me six hundred thousand dollars. I later I later met Ryan Westbrook, and I told him that story. And he just laughed. He says, that guy should have called me. He goes, we could have figured.

If I'd known it was going to cost that much, we could have figured something out. I asked him, I said, Brian, how often does that play come up in your life? And he goes, every single day. Every single day, somebody mentions that play to me. And how it cost them. All of that sounds illegal.

Pete Rose was denied the Hall of Fame for less than all these crimes. A lot less. Matthew Barry is out here just admitting to, freely and openly. Matt. Dan, do I need a lawyer? Yeah, yeah, you've boxed this up and down.

You mentioned Westbrook. It made me think of Westbrook Okine and the idea that a Titans receiver has been uh... he's only got twenty catches this year but either touchdowns can you give me a name in the history of fantasy that you most associate with sort of that kind of ridiculousness i'm talking about it yet we like uh...

i think it's sort of happened at the same time. Marquez Valdez Gantley. He's actually getting less target share than Nick Westbrook, Akina, and WI. But yeah, just he's been an unbelievable run. Matthew, before we let you go, who's the guy that disappointed you the most this year on your fantasy team? Every year I walk around muttering some guy's name under my breath.

For the second consecutive year for me, it's Christian Watson. How about you? Look, Tank Del's been a bummer for me. I loved Tank Del last year. He was one of the guys that came through for me. I liked him again this year. It hasn't worked out.

He's had two games this year with 15 or more fantasy points. He's wide receiver 54 on a points per game basis, single digit fantasy points and almost 60% of his games like it just for whatever reason, like we thought the Texans offense would regress. We didn't think it would regress this much. And just tank Dell just hasn't been a thing this year the way he was last year. When the injury to digs happened, you thought, oh, well, maybe finally now it'll be

tank Dell time. And it just, it just hasn't worked out that way so still love Tankdale as a player but fantasy wise it's been a massive disappointment. Alright check out the fantasy football hour with Matthew Berry it is on Peacock. Matthew we appreciate the time as always yes sir. Of course I have one last question for you Stu Gotts and it's really a question for Dan I have a question for Dan. Alright he's in the penalty box. When does Dan get out of the penalty box?

We bring him out of the? Yeah, we can get him out early. Because, yeah, I have an important question for him. Okay, so hold on a second because Chris just walked into the penalty box. Look at that, look how quick it was. Dan is back now. All right.

So it was in two minutes. Dan still owes 35 seconds. I have an important question for you before you ask your important question of Dan. Can you write a chapter in my next book? I know you're a New York Times bestselling author. What do you think? Sure. I'd be happy to. To be honest with you, I'm going to phone that one in. Yeah.

But because I assume that'll be how the rest of the book is going as well. But yeah, sure. All right. Yeah. Put me down for a chapter. I'm in. All right, join the club, the phone club, and go ahead, ask your question of Dan. All right, Dan, here's my question.

Earlier in the year, in my last appearance on the Dan Levitard show with Stu Gotz, I pitched the idea of a fantasy football league that I would play with Stu Gotz and the rest of the guys on the show. And so on air, Stu got said, I love the idea I'm in. And so Stu gots and I were texting back and forth took him like a couple days to get back

to me. And eventually he says like, I'm sorry, I'm gonna be bad at setting this up. I'm gonna can I can I connect you with Chris Cody, and he'll set it up. And I said, you bet. So then Stu gots puts me on a text chain with Chris, and three of us and I'm like hey Chris let me know a good time to talk we'll figure this out I get blown off then I text again completely ghosted so I'm just curious is it me or they or are Chris and Stu gots was terrible on text generally well I would say there are a couple of things here yes though two of those people are two of the least reliable finishers we

have around here in a company that prides itself on not finishing much of anything. But also we have partnership conflicts that I believe make that impossible. And instead of doing that in your face and telling you directly, our guys just hid under their desks. Well, I passed it along to Chris. Yeah, so you punted. What's weird is- He hid. Yeah. We should do it though.

We should do it in the shadows since you're doing so many illegal things during this segment anyway. We should do it, you know, we should both risk getting in trouble with our sugar daddies because we've gone into cahoots on playing dirty fantasy in the Corner.

Well, the reason I went to Chris is Matthew wanted to do the draft on air and Dan would love that. I mean... Okay, so again, all of this could have been communicated to you so that you wouldn't just have to ask me these questions in a way that embarrass all of us publicly

because I'm looking at you, Chris Cody. To be clear, Dan, this is mostly about embarrassing Chris and Stuugats, not you. So please, I can't be embarrassed. You know what? I applaud all such efforts.

Thank you. Well done as always Matthew Barry. We appreciate your time. You are in all of our fantasies. I love you guys. Talk soon. We love you too. Sorry.

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Yes, I can, Jess. Expert. I've been married 40 years. This is the Dan Leventhal Show with the Stu Gatz. Dan Leventhal, popular host of the Dan Leventard show on Peacock with his good buddy Stu Gotz and the voice of Miami Sports. Dan Lebatard joins us on the program. How are you, Dan?

Oh, it is lovely to see you as always. I have said through tears a number of different times here how much I love and admire you, but keeping me waiting so that all seat and can talk uh... who the hell let's their producers talk so much that you would keep me waiting after they call me during our show to say hey dan need you immediately i'm like everyone doing my showing you know i admire them and we're partners but i'm doing my show and then they say this this was the killer he's got five minutes for you

five minutes i like to see know how many people that i have one of talk about the thing that he wants to ask me about right here because all of my producers one a yell about what just happened yesterday with alabama getting into this and miami being left out and i got stood out next to me and all he's saying is make sure to tell him Stu gots book.com Thank you, Stu gots book.com. He's very happy that you're having him on to promote his book That is a national bestseller right now that he didn't write or read himself. Well, he's actually having you want to promote it

He's not having me on he didn't ask me to come on He asked you to come on and you're doing a great job so far keep promoting it Dan. Oh, I mean I like it. We're we're down to two and a half minutes now uh... stood up book dot com uh... how's miami football house morale down there itself did you want to see miami do you want to see cam warden the best offense in the country in a shoot

out to dinner or did you just want grandfather in alabama on this made for ten i got to see miami against uh... syracuse already got to see them okay but how about alabama gets oklahoma six and six did you see that one oklahoma that lost by twenty dollars you that lost just recently the online platform of twenty four to three then i'm with you i'm with you but if miami beat syracuse

miami beats george attack then we don't have this discussion, then we don't have to bring in Alabama, Dan. Just beat Syracuse, beat Syracuse. That is right. I can't argue that. I would love to see Miami against Notre Dame in South Bend, Dan. Dan Patrick, you are astute as always.

If Miami were undefeated, they would be in. That is correct. Or, no, I'm saying beat Georgia Tech, and you're in. That's right. Or beat Syracuse, Dan. Agreed, two fewer losses and they're in. That is absolutely correct. So you can put your snark to the side,

just like Miami, put him to the side, out of the playoffs, and then I'm just trying to have a rational discussion. That's it, that's all I'm trying to do. Greg Cody wants to get in here, and he wants to get in here with Sports Conversation and I want to get him in here reading Fifty Shades of Greg. So which would...

He also has a book to promote. What would you prefer? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not reading an obscene passage from a book. No, I'm not doing that. I got to draw the line somewhere. Okay. Oh, here doing that. I gotta draw the line somewhere. Okay. Oh, here it is. 50 Shades of Grey. No, it's not happening.

Okay, I'm sorry, Dan. Go ahead. I already did. I mean, I just... You should be confused, Dan. You should. Well, this is, Dan, here's... All I was looking for was... Miami talk. You call yourself the pope of south beach that's all i was trying to do is let you pontificate

and tell me about miami i told you if you beat syracuse you're probably in that's all i didn't say you know if they had then i have to make the argument uh... that what i would say to you dan if i'm making the argument okay i know that people don't believe the syracuse any good as the best the best offensive the best passing offense most prolific one in in the sport and nobody regards Syracuse is anything because they're busy regarding all the eight and three teams in the SEC as something greater than that I the argument I make on behalf of Miami Beyond you know that they can put their record up against Alabama is that you keep telling me how soft that schedule is for?

Miami, but it would have three other top 25 teams in it if Miami hadn't beaten those teams This is about SEC reputation and it's about Alabama reputation. I didn't say that their schedule was soft I said beat Georgia Tech and beat Syracuse at what point did I say there's soft agree? Agree, I didn't say they were... I just said that I said that they had a soft schedule. Okay, look. I did not. What you're doing here with Georgia Tech and beat Syracuse, okay, and Notre Dame beat Northern Illinois. Like of course we can make that argument on any team. I would tell Alabama, beat Oklahoma. Okay, but Notre Dame recovered from Northerninois and became a really really consistent good team

take them out of the equation these losses just happened to miami it just happened last week timing is everything all but you say it's a and i i i i think miami should be in the end and timing is in everything merit should be everything time you can't tell me it doesn't matter to me whether the look games were at the end of the season or at the beginning of the season it's a body of work it's an entire schedule of work why play the games at early at all if you're going to only make the ones

like are the ones that count though should noter day and be kept down because they had one of the worst losses in all of college football with these top twelve teams is that what you're saying alabama lost that and let's just answer the question i don't know what i don't know what the new london i'll don i will answer it in a second oklahoma eleven days ago

beat alabama does everyone listening to this know how bad oklahoma was this year twenty four to three is the most in this inexplicable result i have in the sport outside of northern illinois going and winning at noter dame and people forget about it you're talking about timing when i'm like timing was eleven days ago i don't think that Miami was beating Wake Forest i don't think alabama should be in i think that like you keep arguing the same thing i'm agreeing with you that Miami should be in. I think like you keep arguing the same thing I'm agreeing with

you that Miami should be in. I'm saying this is why they were probably kept out. Alabama's a brand. If this was 01 Miami would be in. They were a brand. They're not a brand anymore. That's part of this. It's a TV show. It's about entertainment. They want it. Alabama still has a fan fan base a big fan base a big draw we're agreeing with the same thing i'm saying you lost to syracuse that probably hurt you with the recency buys that's all that's it

well i don't think i i think we all agree that we all got into sports not for the scoreboard but for timing in brand i agree with you timing in the land tides right that's how we should measure bodies colliding and killing themselves for money. Dan, the real problem here is Boise State. Get them the hell out of my college football playoff. That is the, I want brands.

I'm with you, Dan Patrick, okay? I want Alabama, I want Miami, I want nothing to do with Boise State or UNLV. Get them out. Do you want to get a plug in for your or UNLV. Get him out. Do you want to get a plug in for your book too? StuGott'sBook.com. Thank you, Dan. Okay, thanks. Appreciate your help with the book.

Are you sure you don't want the 50 Shades of Greg? I know it's awkward, Dan, but we've been- It is. But you're interrupting what we were doing. Look. Please say no, Dan. I have told- No.

Yeah, thank you. No, but this one's safe for middle America. No, no. Man, I'd love to, but this one's safe for middle America. No, no. Man, I'd love to, but I'm up against a commercial break. Thank you, thank God. And he's confused, and he should be. He should hardly know how to work out, right? All right, Dan LeBattard is the Jake Paul of sports host,

you know, that's what you are. You're the Jake Paul of sports host. You should be ashamed. Okay, I mean. I agree with you. Okay, StuGott'sBook.com, you gave me five minutes, Greg wanted to talk, and then two. You took two ashamed. Okay. I mean, I agree with you. Okay. StuGotsBook.com. You gave me five minutes. Greg wanted to talk and then you took two and a half. He took two and a half.

I gave you even more than that. You did. Why did we book him in the first place? Good God. All right. You move on. That's Dan LeBittard. No, no, we're done.

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