The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: From Sports To Porn

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

"Is it all Marlas?" Tony helps put a big UFC event in perspective, David looks through squiggly lines, Mike shares his thoughts on Tony and Jeremy's debate from earlier, and the entire crew discusses the biggest upsets in American history. Also, Dan's mom's lover has returned to NBA action. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stucats podcast. There is something profoundly sad about tailgating at 10 a.m. at a strip club. It was awesome up until you said strip club. That is something that seems like on a weekday. You were talking about Romberg? Yeah, me and me and Roddoll. Whatever, our day was over. Let's go to the club.

Let me update some looks like here in our tournament, the East Region number six. Louisville, I can't say that correctly. Louville is represented by. Hunter Pence looks like the pirate forced to walk the plank after a failed mutiny against his captain Jeff Samarja. It's a double. That is a double. We should have had a picture of Samarja in there. I could have made it even funny.

I can see it with a long coat with like a hook. South Florida is an 11 seed represented by. Kurt Warner looks like the villain in a Christmas movie that wants to take over the North Pole and make the elves pawns in his capitalist skis. King. Number four, Arkansas is represented by. Brock Purdy looks like a youth pastor. That one's great.

He might actually be. Arkansas is playing against number 13, Hawaii. Hawaii is represented by. Tyrese Halliburton looks like a mischievous cartoon mouse. North Carolina is represented by. Chiefs owner Clark Hunt looks like the director of a funeral home that makes candles out of its surplus of embalming fluid. If you're not watching these on YouTube, like that is, I think a lot of people might not know

what Clark Hunt looks like, but Clark Hunting, you've got to be careful with that name. Why? Chris Cody. Clunt. If its first name were Mike, it would be an issue. Clark is fine. Number 11 VCU is represented by. Tom Izzo looks like a mailman. That's why it's a 14 seed.

Just kind of factual. It's an 11 seed. No, but the short ones are good. I like the short ones. The short ones off of the long ones are also good. Illinois, Illinois's got good offense. Illinois, number three seed, is represented by... Tony Reale looks like the overzealous owner of an Italian restaurant

who always greets you at the door with my favorite couple when you walk in. He make of the salad. Three-seat Illinois is facing 14-seed pennies. Penn is represented by. Adam Silver looks like a javelin. Stop. You have to stop. Gonzaga, three-seed is represented by.

Aaron Judge looks like the most athletic member of the Adams family. I thought that was like a one-seat. It's good. I got voted down. For me, that was like one of our top ones. It is good. The three-seed Gonzaga is facing Kennesaw State, a 14-seed. Joe Girardi looks like he has a favorite.

chair in the husband sitting area outside Dillard's. Look at Samson. You can't even smile when he sees his face. I was trying to think what Dillers was. There's no, no, no. I'm sorry. Don't penalize me. How are you an elitist about everything? Just tell me what that is and then I can laugh. It's like Burdine's.

Not helping. A mall store. It's like a department store. I got a JCPen. I like a mall store. It's all right. You know what I meant. Have you ever heard of Macy's?

Yeah, of course. What do you think you got that shirt in New York City? But I think Burdines might be not only closed, also it's just Florida, isn't it? Burdines is not a national. Macy bought Burdine. Also in a store. Also a mall store. Number two, Houston is represented by.

Ed Malloy looks like the guy who brushes his teeth in the company bathroom. That it's facing number 15 Idaho. Idaho is represented by. Connor McDavid looks like a mechanic. He does that. I wanted to ask you guys something based on the news around this MVP card of mixed martial arts. I saw that Nate Diaz has been added to it. Against Platina Mike Perry, Dano.

This is a very exciting card all of a sudden. I don't know, man. Ron DeRalzi said the card sucks. It's not a good card. It's a bunch of washed up fighters. And Ganoos washed up, Dan. And Ganoos washed up. He hasn't fought in like five years.

Did you just make my point? No. I think he just defined. No, no, he's got legs under him. He's well-rested. Exactly right, thank you. Nate Diaz, Ronda Rousey, Gina Carrano. These are a lot of people who either haven't fought in a long time or in the case of Nate Diaz is just a name.

Like, he is punched drunk and he's been punched drunk for years. Was Gina Carrano ever any good? Not really. She was more of an action star than she was of a fighter. For the competition, that promotion that she was at, was it Strike Force, Elite X-E? one became the other. Because I feel like she had a little bit of Anacornicova to her. I mean, that promotion, I think that promotion had network fights on CBS before it became a thing now with the UFC.

They did a really good job of building personalities up. Dan was a very useful vessel in the Kimbo-Slic experience. Superstars that weren't actually in the ring technically as gifted as maybe their UFC counterparts, but they were big personalities that true. And the way that combat sports went, including boxing, like, that's the big deal now is who can draw. Who's, it's a celebrity boxing angle now. And it's one of the biggest sports on the planet. Celebrity boxing is outlasting actual box. So was the card flailing, Tony?

Is that what I'm hearing? Was it a late ad that is making this all of a sudden interesting? You should know this is a competitor to UFC. This is not UFC. These are the fighters that are outside of the contract. But when they do an ad like that, is it because it was. flailing and they want to say flailing. I think they're trying to put more thing because rather you got to build the card on one fight and then from there you can

kind of build everything out. And the rousy fights that fight. Again, they use the Gina Carano rousy fight as that thing. But then you look at Francis Ngano who's been obviously a big name in the in the UFC and also in MMA. They're putting him against another guy who's kind of a tomato can. Then you've got Nick Diaz who everybody loves, or Nate Diaz, excuse me, who everybody loves. Putting him on a card is going to attract people because people want to see Nate. So and Mike Perry is another guy who's been BKFC, which is bare knuckle. He's been out very publicly

as far as the social media game. He just made it seem, though, that this edition had changed it from ordinary to extraordinary. I wouldn't say extraordinary. It turned it from OK to ordinary. Oh. Let me entertain what Mike is saying, though, about the combat sports.

If you've been listening to this show for a long time, you know that I love boxing. And I especially liked and supported the competing styles of mixed martial arts. I love the science of will Jiu-Jitsu beat a ground game and all of that stuff when it's just two people reduced to their courage and vulnerability and the risk of embarrassment in front of others. This is something that I have enjoyed as a science. But Mike is correct and the dilution hurts both my interest in it and my caring for the artistry that I'm

talking about when you distort it by just making it names or celebrities and your whole card is people who haven't fought in nine years or people who are just using the last embers of their fame to get people to do a pay-per-view thing because that's what the mix that is what combat sports have become i i totally understand where you're coming from you covered boxing in the 90s where you know It was still very strong. Everybody, you weren't too far removed from the glory days of heavyweights. Tyson was like a power cord of excitement and a cult of personality. I understand how someone who actually covered the sport when it mattered would look down on their nose.

I don't even look at it as related to boxing. I think it's just a curiosity. I think it's closer to celebrity Big Brother than it is to actual boxing. This is a new form of reality show where you get to see two known, people and instead of them playing like games, they're beating each other up or attempting to and sometimes poorly. But still, that has a curiosity factor. It's like MTV the challenge. Yeah, it has a curiosity factor. It may not interest you, but it makes you more curious about their cards than it does a run of the middle. Like, we didn't talk about the last UFC card. It wasn't a

good card. There wasn't a big time name if you're a casual fan. We're talking about this one. The issue was there was two big time names between Charles Olavera and Max Holloway, and the problem is the fight sucked because Charles just took him down for four minutes every single round. But the talking point about MVP is like this is what MVP does, right? Like they're not a sanctioned body of boxing. They're not a sanctioned body of MMA. They're kind of a sideshow, freak show, dog and pony show where you're like, all right, can I get the biggest names?

Can I have Nate Robinson fight Jake Paul? Can I have Mike Tyson, who's 65 years old, fight Jake Paul in a fight that we all thought was going to be one thing and it was completely different. And I once looked down on my nose on it and now I've just adjusted my expectations for these things. It's part of the game now. And it's just like a reality show, side show attraction that I guess can be kind of fun. For one night. The saying is look down my nose, not look down on my nose.

That's true. Okay, thank you. Thank you for the correction. I had that wrong. It's looked down on my nose. And I am looking down on my nose at you, mispronouncing that with great judgment. But the thing, and I think you guys will understand this, okay, because this is not just me being crotchety, old guy complaining about how things were. You know that I like merit. And so it simply bothers me,

okay, that a heavyweight division of Joshua Wilder, Fury, Ruiz, and before that, the Klitschko brothers, gets dwarfed by this. I mean, loser sentence. We have reality show host presidents. Nothing's a meritocracy anymore. Everything's like, what's your IG follower count? That's fine, but do you understand why it is I'm objecting to it. Yes. I want merit. I mean, I highlighted it. I get it. Especially if you actually have a respect for boxing. But like I said, it's closer to survivor. Hello listeners and friends. Boy, the feedback on that night that I had with my good friend

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Oh, absolutely, Mike. Yeah, you've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo. Oh, delicious. It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories.

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Don Lebatard. Tatas. Stugats. Taitas. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. The other thing, too, Dan, and I understand that this is a side show and the celebrity boxing angle of it, but what Jake has done for women boxing is been massive. He's been putting Amanda Serrana close or Shields, like, all of these different people

on the map in such a big way that female boxing just cannot do. It's the meme, though, of when some. someone you despise makes a good point. Yes, Jake Paul has done a good thing while also undercutting what it is that I thought, Chris is making fun of me here where he's like, Merritt. Yeah, I thought that's what we were doing in sports. I thought merit is what we were doing. Is it all Marla's, Mike?

I'm sorry? Is it all Marlas? I don't know what that means. So Jake Paul, is he only promoting non-Marlas? from League of their own, the ugly baseball player who was so good, but hey, pan the camera back. Pan it back. She's not Gina Davis. She's not Lori Petty.

Because the picture you just showed, there was no Marla's anywhere that I could see. So you say that Jake Paul is doing a lot for women boxing. Is it as boxers or as pinups? Absolutely as boxers. Amanda Serrano is one of the best of all time. Clarissa Shield is one of the best of all time. He's propping these people up and putting them in paydays and paychecks that they would have never seen otherwise. I'll give you a good example.

My dad wanted to see the Jake Paul Mike Tyson's side show attraction. I watched that too. On the undercard, there was a big time women's boxing match. They headlined another card. My dad really enjoyed the previous fight. He is as casual sports fan as you'll meet. And he wanted to tune into that because he's aware of these names because of Jake Paul. And I will push back some on the meritocracy thing.

I know it's maybe 10 years too late. But Ronda Rousey, and let's give Gina Karanu some respect. Gina Carrano headlined a card against Cyborg, and that was a big deal. That was a national story. It drew a monster rating. This is a fight that people wanted to see in its heyday. Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carrano. And yes, they're both celebrities.

And yes, they're both attractive. That sells fights. It's going to be awful. It's probably going to be awful. But I know that going in. I'm curious. I do want to see this fight. It is a worthy main event for what this card is.

But your dad wouldn't have paid. My only point is your dad paid for Paul Tyson. the fact that he got thrown Tyson, Paul. That's the only way my dad would watch. So he didn't pay extra is all I'm saying for the undercar. He wouldn't have done that.

But he's watching a women's headline boxing card, which is just crazy. Ronda Rousey, whether you like her or not, a legitimate pioneer. This is as wrong as Dana White has ever been because he said that would never happen in his sport. And then she was headlining a year.

UFC card and he didn't think that was going to happen and he behaved. He chased after Ronda Rousey while she was fighting on his hands and knees like a puppy because he was so happy to have a star because what has happened to his sports since, a lot of ground game

people from mountainous regions that end up making the Arab fighters my son loves the Arab fighters. They're ruining the sport. Rousey saved Dana's at one point. He needed a star. He did and he kind of got Lucky right after he got Connor, and now he's kind of searching for that next big thing at a hugely important time. And you can tell that Paramount is trying to position him.

I don't know if you saw the profile that CBS News did on him, but he's trying to be more inclusive with his platform again, which is just laugh out loud, funny. It really is one of the biggest moments in combat sports history. We all remember where we were Tyson, Buster Douglas, where we were either watching or heard about it for the first time. I'm like, I remember where I was when Rhonda Rousey took that kick right to the face. Holly hole? Yep, and it all ended. Where were you? I was at a friend's house.

We were watching it. There's no way to prove that wrong. Why trying to test me like that? I got the Shaquille and the old thing right yesterday. Why are you trying to test me? No, you got the, what are you talking about? Yeah, what do you mean? He was not on the left wing.

Why would you try to say that? You mentioned Tyson Douglas. And I thought, because I also remember where I was, I was at the Rathskellor at the University of Miami Bar. and there are very few instances like this where I can go back 30 years and remember where I was on something. Is Tyson Douglas second only to the miracle on ice

when you look at biggest upsets in the history of all of American sports? Because Mike Ryan recently has been talking about the heat as a play-in team as if they weren't one of the biggest upsets in the history of the sport by going through Janus and the Celtics and everyone else as an eight seed. But when you think of second greatest upset, history of American sports, and I've got at the table, I've got Douglas Tyson, and I go all in.

What are you beating me with? What is it that you guys are finding that you're saying? Because that might have been just about the last time that boxing mattered the way that I wanted to matter, instead of being these Jake Paul circus shows that are reality television and don't have much of anything to do with merit. I thought that's what we were doing in sports. I thought we liked the fact that we were trying to reward merit. We were having arguments here for years about who's a better team, and you guys always say, well, they played.

They played, and what happened here? You don't get to make the argument that they're a better team if they lost in a one-game sample. I don't know if it might be comparable in terms of skill, but the attention that it drew was not the same because, again, Mike Tyson was the biggest star arguably on the planet at the time. But Andy Ruiz, being Anthony Joshua at that point, seemed unbelievable. You're right. George Foreman coming back at 45 and winning the heavyweight title. I told you, I was there for that. Yeah, I told you I got seats behind Shaq.

So you couldn't see. I had great seats. That's how I feel every day. Every seat I get is behind Shaq. Jets in 69? Before, yeah, yes. It's a very big upset. Well, I think the Rams losing to the Patriots of Bill Belichick that year, weren't the Rams in the Super Bowl a 17-5-point favorite?

Yeah. How do you think they made that game so close? 17 and a half points. The Giants beat in the Patriots when they were undefeated. That's a big upset. But not as big. Look up for me what Kurt Warner, Tom Brady and Belichick, Br. Brady's first year beating the greatest show on turf.

Look up for me what the point spread was in that game and tell me whether or not there was a point spread that large in a game and a football game last year. Because the 17 and a half point and the 18 point football spread isn't really a thing anymore. That's a college football spread. But you rarely are getting two touchdown spreads in the pros. And I'm pretty sure Brady's Patriots, do I have this wrong, Zasla? Am I remembering this wrong? I think 17 is a little high. I think it's closer to 14.

14 is what I have here. Still a lot. That's the end of that whole story then. I mean, it's still an enormous number of points. Yeah, but 17 and a half, 18. A two touchdown favorite in the Super Bowl. Ohio State being Miami. That was somewhere around 14 also, right?

Yeah, we're just doing American sports, right? Yes. What? Show off. No, because I think a season long thing, like the Premier League, or Jamie Vardian and Golok-O-Conte doing it with Lesser City is something that we'll never see again. That's correct.

Like, that is the international exam. that you used all the time. Can you look up for me, Jeremy, please. The name it's Super Bowl that Zaz is talking about there. What was the point spread against the Colts in that Super Bowl? Different age, different passing numbers. Everything was different then. The internet is telling me January 4th, 2026, this year, week 18, the Baltimore Ravens were a minus 20 favorite against the Cleveland Browns. The Colts were 18 to 19 and a half point favorites, depending on where you were placing your best. So do you put any of those with? pretty good then.

With Douglas and Tyson? Do you think? No, Douglas and Tyson, I still think, is second. For people who aren't old enough to have experienced it, because that fight, it was in Tokyo, so most of us here in this country weren't watching it live. And it was a foregone conclusion. Hold on, Tyson's fight. Who the hell is Buster Douglas?

Nobody took it serious. And then when you get the news the next morning that Tyson lost, what do you mean Tyson lost? We thought it was fixed when it happened, actually. I was of the age where I thought that it was inconceivable that an upset like that could happen. It was inconceivable. So it had to have been a drop. So how did you guys watch it if it was in the Tokyo Dome, you know, time and all that? I didn't watch that one.

Like I found out about it the next morning. Did you like pick up the newspaper? I didn't watch it either. When I say I know where I was, it's delivered news. It's not because I'm actually watching it. It's because somebody is saying in a bar, someone is really, and all of our reactions were the same. Like, what do you mean Tyson? It didn't even make sense.

What do you mean that Tyson lost to Buster Doug? one of the strangest things I've ever seen in my sports life is Mike Tyson grabbing for his mouthpiece on his hands and knees and not getting off the floor because the fight because him disabled he beat the shit out of him it was yeah he how did you guys see the video I like what I have a flashing memory of like a news uh like one of those brief 30 second things and it's just a still image it was a still image of Mike Tyson like with his boxing glove searching many of them you had to go to HBO much later, like weeks

later, to get video if you didn't attend the event. People today and it does make me feel old, but the way you guys get to live with content is like a dream come true. All the way from sports to porn to anything, it's just all there. Had to be said. And we just

didn't have that. That wasn't my life. And so, Buster Douglas... What was your life like? My life was looking through squiggly lines. You remember Mike Tyson was supposed to be a special guest referee at WrestleMania, but he got knocked out by Buster Douglas. They then

invited Buster Douglas instead. He didn't train at all for the fight. He had a stand-up comic in his corner giving him the wrong, not the wrong advice, not merely the wrong advice. They didn't have like fluids, very common boxing things in his corner because

he didn't take the fight seriously in any way at all. Don Lebertard. We're going to win. Stugats. We're going to Wanna win? They're annoying. What an old reference. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.

Let me get to something else here that I wanted to get to. Do you have R&B singers? Has the audience been producing good names for athletes as R&B singers? Have you knocked off Jimmy Fox? Is Jimmy Fox the best that you've got so far? New album coming out, Darius Slayton. That's not bad. It's going.

Jordan Love. I think, is Darius Garvey? Arlen better than Darius Slayton. Darius is helping you here. The Darius is doing the lifting. How do we feel about... How do we feel about Zay Flowers? That's good, too.

That's a good one. I like Zayfowers. I've got Justin Champani. Jalen Hertz's debut album, Love Hertz. That's a good one. That's good. That's good. Not better than Luther Bird.

So, wait a minute. You have Jalen Hertz and Kevin Love doing a duet of Love Hertz? A double album. Or Jordan Love is better than Kevin Love, isn't it? How do we feel about Chuba Hubbard? It's a damn think tank here. I don't think Chuba Hubbard works. Just Chuba?

Reggae. I feel Mike's eyes on me. Would I do wrong there? He doesn't like your selection. It's the bad nominee. Okay. Chubba. Yeah.

Let me get to something here. I don't know if you guys have seen Max Struis recently. Basically, Sam Merrill has taken his minutes in Cleveland. I don't know how you guys feel in general about Cleveland. Boston wins last night against Phoenix. Boston. Jason Tatum has fit. right in. Have they lost? Yeah, they lost by

two against Oklahoma City since Tatum's return. But Boston's not... They lost more than once. Boston's not doing a lot of regressing. Boston remains a very good team. As Detroit struggles some, as the Knicks have done some struggling. They played five games in seven days. I don't think people

know how tiring that is or care, but they hadn't been very good over some of that stretch. But Cleveland now has Max Struce returning and he was emotional because he's been gone. How long, Jeremy, has Max Struce been out? In like seven months, and it wasn't anticipated to be like that. He hasn't played this season.

He came back a couple of nights ago. It was his first game back. He hit six of seven threes. And this is a guy who really helped change their culture last year by bringing this type of attitude that he has. The kind of confidence you did tonight where you were able and willing to take shots early into shot clock and shot clocks as well. What does that say about the confidence that you've been growing on the time that you've been away from the team? I mean, excuse my language, but I worked my ass off. It was, damn, I didn't want to do this.

Why'd you have to do that? I'm sorry. No, it was a long road, but I only know one way to work, and that's as hard as possible. And I did that every single day. And tonight's tonight, I'm just happy to be playing. I mean, I had a good night, but again, that doesn't. It doesn't matter. We lost.

I love that. That was nice. People do not realize how hard players work to come back from injury. They just see them come back. Oh, he tore his Achilles. Oh, now Tatum's playing. No one talks about what they do, the hours and hours of rehab, the brutal rehab. You know why he's in tears?

Because no one's paying attention. There's no cameras. There's no love. You do get paid, but it is hard. I'm a huge Max Trues guy, big fan of his. I think he's like one of the rare examples of guys that the heat developed when on to sign a big inflated contract and he approved dividends like right away and he was a big part of their culture change. What has Cleveland done to him though? This is all the setup to remind

you in the audience that before their game five elimination game against the Pacers, he sent a group text to the entire team. If you don't believe, then don't show up for work. And then Max Shrews went 0 for 9. Zero points. He's wearing Cleveland though. I don't want to look shame anyone. That's terrible. This was one of the great looking guys. Can we put up a photo of him just a couple years ago? I mean, we have other photos. You can't be a leader if you've gone 0 for four at the plate? Old for nine.

No, he went 0 for nine from the field. It's a funny story. All right, I like Max. I'll go a step further on this, okay? When David says people don't have any idea how hard these guys work, there's another couple of layers to this, okay? It's not merely that when you're injured to even your teammates, you become invisible.

You cannot help them. You are an afterthought. You're always in the training room. so you are not a part of what they're doing. So that's element number one. The second element of this, you work as hard as you have your entire life to get where he has because he was cut by the Boston Celtics. He was rejuvenated here, but he's been hanging on to the fringes of the league,

and you realize your mortality on how quickly your opportunity can be taken because Sam Merrill's taken all those threes now for them. And he has not been a key contributor to anything they're doing this season. And then the third thing, and this is the one that's most troubling. And I don't think anybody listening to this thinks of this. People in their early 30s having their bodies betray them when their bodies are the economy for their entire family. When the body is the only thing that makes them known to others to have the body fall apart on you when you're relying on your body. And then you have to work that way.

I think injury is a part of the game, but I don't think fans consider any of that. It's a big difference, though, when you're injured in the middle of a guarantee. deal versus when you're injured as a free agent or without a team. When you're alone rehabbing, when you're part of a team, you're apart from the players, but you've got staff around and you've got paycheck coming every two weeks. When you're injured as a free agent or without team affiliation, that's a level of loneliness and a level of fear that's very different. And I assume Max was in the middle of a long-term deal when he got hurt. I like the R&B singer game. Ruben Drones. That's a good one.

Rome O'Donzee? Keep it going here because there are any number of athletes that fit this description. But please put Max Struz on the screen again, please, because he does look far different. And I don't know if you can go hair bun when you've got that aggressively receding a hair line. My mother had a huge crush on Max Strues that made my father uncomfortable. My father, we have somewhere. Get me that video. My father went to the arena with a chain.

That video was somewhere. We had a two-by-four with a nail in it. Yudanus Haslam had to pull my father off of Max Struz because of the crush. My mother would not have a crush on this samurai. What's this hair bun situation and what's this receding hairline situation? Poppy was worried for real that Lourdes would have an actual thing because that makes me smile. I think he'd love that. We've got to get that video of my father.

You call him Poppy a cuck? Yeah. No, I'm saying it's sort of fun to, if you're a cook. If your wife can put an NBA player, don't ever call me a cock. Well, didn't somebody call Moa Ali that early in the show? Moeley's Hawk. Is that you, Tony? No, impossible.

Moeley, talk. That's Jeremy. That sounds like you, Tony. Moellie's talking. That's Jeremy. I'm willing to think it's Jeremy. Yeah, because I make mistakes around here, adding it to arbitration. Mike Ryan, you missed the argument, the best I've seen so far between Tony and Jeremy that started today's show.

and Samson was mentioning some of this on nothing personal. We are the show best equipped to tackle the subject matter of Donald Trump very cavalierly's just sort of saying, yeah, I'll have the honor of taking Cuba. And your thoughts as somebody who wasn't here for the middle of the argument on where it is that we find ourselves today, where I believe the streets of Miami will rejoice the way Venezuelans did throughout Miami, when we did what we did as a country to Venezuela, when the Cuban people stop suffering. I believe that there will be a great celebration in the streets

when this regime falls. I cannot quite stomach this person's motives in being the one who gets the credit for finally bringing to freedom an island that's been rotting for 70 years. Same. He's got to get credit for it, and it'll justify, I think, what is very clearly a failing administration to a lot of Cuban-American magas, they'll be able to

overlook some heinous, corrupt stuff. And I think people on the left side of the political spectrum that I identify with that right now, eat it. This will be a tremendous thing, a liberated Cuba. And I think it's a byproduct of what happened with Venezuela, as messy as that is right now. I know people are hopeful for free elections and regime change, even though Donald Trump was confused as to the gender of the current leader of Venezuela. It's the right hand of Maduro, and they're still in place, and the U.S. has their oil. Cutting off that power spout, it's why all these Cuban special forces people were guarding Maduro. That was the final nail in the coffin. There is national power grid failure in Cuba, and now you have taken what precious little human, what am I looking for here?

There is just a base level of life at Cuba that they're willing to suffer through. And being able to turn on the lights is one of them. It's one big checkbox. Human necessities are you looking for right. Yes, thank you. And they don't have that anymore. The people might literally tear what's left of the government to shreds if this continues much longer. They're just got to tap out.

This is a TKO. This is 60 years in the making. Donald Trump is fortunate enough to be in this place right now in history. And I'm really happy for the liberation of that island. I'm happy that it's happening in my lifetime. It's just a matter of time. and I'm not going to give you some liberal spin on it. I'm worried about having this administration in place for such a pivotal time,

given that Venezuela's a mess or can be if we don't hit all our marks there, but it's better than what they had. And I'm honored and privileged to be alive to watch that regime fall or be choked out. He's a full consequentialist. What he's saying is that it doesn't matter that the big orange buffoon, as you call him, is the leader of this. He's saying I'm alive and I'm so thankful and honored to be alive to watch this happen. The only mistake that, Mike, you made there, my opinion is there's been four administrations in a row that could have argued that this is the moment. So there's stuff going on now for sure, but don't say that all of a sudden today there's something happening in the world.

Cuba's been a rotting island for 70 years. There is something that Donald Trump did that. that fast forwarded this, so he's the one that is on the clock when it happens, and it was his actions in Venezuela. Venezuela was propping up this island, and Donald Trump is there. Look, it might have happened over time if Obama's plan for it was able to be seen through. Donald Trump, when he got in the office, undid all of that. The crippling sanctions meant that there was only one country that was really buoying Cuba, and it was Venezuela and was primarily Maduro that was doing it. When you eliminate Maduro, there's nothing left.

There were crippling sanctions all through my childhood. Yeah, and Russia has helped Cuba before, too, but I would say, and this is more word of mouth than anything, because I have watched my mother go to the local places that would allow her to wire things to family in Cuba, swallowing it, eating it, because she never knew whether it would get there, whether someone else would take it, whether they would take a percentage of it. This is the worst that it's been on the island in my lifetime in terms of them having nothing.

And it's almost as bad as the collapse of the Soviet Union that 100% crippled every single thing that they had on that island. This is worse. They have no electricity. They have no food. They have no transportation. They have no medical care. They have literally nothing.

So we talk about displacing them. It's like, displacing is almost a good thing. I'm just hopeful that people like Marco Rubio have the president's here enough to make sure that when this change does happen, we don't. It's done the right way. We don't leave them alone. Hell, we left Puerto Rico to their own devices and they're still trying to dig themselves out of disaster. I don't want to skip past, though, the point that Jeremy is making, which I think is an important one. given that I saw

my family tells all the stories of displacement my family had a home and then you go to not having a home because they're putting up Trump hotels there like you can't trust these people to do this correctly

Dan they don't have homes now the government owns them they don't have power they don't have anything I hear you I don't like the guy I'm worried about the Trump casinos on the Havana shoreline, but it's better than what they have right now. Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

Don't place parlayes on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero. Always drink your Yeagermeister ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion. Everything else? Everything else. Wearing clean underwear every day.

Well, that's just a personal decision. Brushing your teeth. Obviously smart, but not a rule. Never pee on an electric fence. Okay, maybe there are two rules. But the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Yeagermeister must be drank ice cold. Or don't drink it at all.

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