The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Great Games, Gents

Episode Date: December 20, 2023

Dan Le Batard: Aaron Rodgers is a loser today but maybe also a winner and has lots of attention and is good at football and also is a champion but maybe still a loser and also definitely not. Then, St...ugotz wants to play a series of games around Bill Belichick calling teams and asking for their head coaching job. Plus, Stugotz predictions, Anthony Edwards, AROD is everywhere, and breaking Harbaugh news. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugat Spatcast. Someone writes in Stugat's, I love the pod, but it seems like they barely talk sports anymore. The local hour is usually ruled by Mike Ryan Booster talk, Amin and Charlotte rarely talk actual hoops when in studio just NBA gossip and headlines. Dan is super into politics, which is fine, but it just seems like there's been a shift. I'm not super into politics.
Starting point is 00:00:43 A lot of people are complaining that we're talking way too much sports. I don't know how it can be both of those things. How it can be too little sports and too much sports, but it's been both of those things as a complaint, the entire time we've been doing this. You can't please everyone. Just keep talking. Yes, I've been talking too much, but when you mention the idea that we talk too much politics around here, many in our audience have noticed what they feel to be a dissolution of our relationship with Aaron Rodgers, that the relationship has changed, and the way that we talk about him has changed.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I have been in agreement with him on a number of different things and in disagreement with him on a number of different things. But right now, what's happening with Aaron Rodgers is some people here today were calling him a loser. Now, I don't believe that for one second. He still remains. I'm not going to diminish the excellence at the position. Before my homes, he's the best I'd ever seen. And I'm including Brady in there. I know Brady one more, but just watching the artistry of quarterback. Yes, we could do a game by game, lost big games. And I wouldn't have a very good argument in saying that Aaron Rodgers is a better
Starting point is 00:02:00 quarterback than Tom Brady. I would lose that argument, but just watching someone play, he's been amazing. But what's happened in New York this year, where he's been a spectacle of not playing. And now, yesterday, finally, it was like never mind, I'm not actually playing this year. Well, the team's out of it, so. Yeah, but all year, it was to get and defy science and fouchies and idiot. And we know, we know that he and I do not align here, but there is plenty of room for disagreement
Starting point is 00:02:35 and plenty of room for people to raise their hand, including me on. I was wrong about certain things here because I was trusting science and I understand if you're someone who doesn't trust science, but we were in a fairly unknown time. And if you line up against me on that, totally understood, but my general relationship to what it is Aaron Rogers is doing is not poisoned by Aaron Rogers doing some things differently than I expected as he headed into midlife as an adult and into end of life as a quarterback and a quarterback career. My assessment of him case to case on things that happened isn't poisoned by the last two or three years of him behaving differently or having different opinions than me.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Like I'm not arriving at everything Aaron Rogers related and saying anything in the realm of loser. Like I don't know how it is that you guys are ending up there. How did you end up at loser? Uh, because he's acting like a big loser, Dan. Oh, that's a good point. I mean, he is maybe my favorite quarterback I've ever watched play the game. I'm not saying there's a butt coming down. I'm not saying we're gonna know. I'll tell you a big butt. I'm not saying you can say whatever one he's never coming on the
Starting point is 00:03:56 show again. Is that right? That's not true. I don't think he's going to be true again. Do you know something we don't then? Well, I said that's right. Like a very, you know, I'm asking is that right? Because I don't know that to be true. And they're going to be very few words, man. Do you remember that I was praying in a shrine in my house that we released a video with Aaron Rogers the first time he disappointed us?
Starting point is 00:04:19 I don't believe that my relationship with Aaron Rogers is ruined, but it wasn't much of a relationship. It was just an on air relationship. I could tell you as the person who communicates with Rogers team and the Jets media relations staff that Rogers has no beef with you, he is happy to come back on this show once he is playing football again. I will also tell you that I've been angling for God, bless football for him to come on that show. And he's happy to do that as well.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So there is no beef. I'm telling you with Aaron Rogers with anyone on this show, there is it. Are you sure that you weren't requesting Jake Owen? You don't know whether you were requesting the right person or not. Cause it would make sense. But also I don't believe that much of what is happening
Starting point is 00:05:02 around here is getting to him. And most of what gets aggregated and associated to me is not something that I have said. It's just something one of you have said. So I'm sure that it's going to be a headline now. Levitard Rodgers is a loser. How about this? Levitard Rodgers is a winner. He won this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:05:21 He got exactly everything that he wanted to get out of this. Just attention. Like attention. No, one, he came back. He made a miraculous comeback. He did it because the doctors didn't let him, but he's a month away and the rules really worked against him on this one because he only had that 21 day window and he told us he's about three or four weeks away from being 100%.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Unfortunately, three or four weeks away from being 100% falls outside of the 21-day window. So like, it's not his fault. If anything, he could say he was a great teammate over this period of time. He was there on the sidelines. A lot of times when people are there doing rehab, you don't see them forever. He's there with headsets on. People have said time after time, he's a bad teammate. He doesn't want to mentor Jordan Love. He doesn't's a bad teammate. He doesn't want to mentor Jordan love.
Starting point is 00:06:06 He doesn't want to do this. He doesn't want to do that. I mean, he seemed to take Zach Wilson under his wing. He was there every game trying to be supportive. You could see him rolling his eyes and disgust, but he never threw a hissy fit. He never really said much of anything after some of these games. He just appear every Tuesday on Pat McAfee and he'd, you know, say whatever he'd say there. And then he just come back and be a, you know, say whatever he'd say there.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And then he just come back and be a good teammate. We heard from Rich Simeone. He looked great last week. He jumped up made a one handed interception. I mean, I don't see how you can look at any of this and think that Aaron Rogers lost in any way. He got hurt. He played four snaps of a season, but we've been talking about him
Starting point is 00:06:45 the entire time. If anything, it sounds like he's going to come back stronger than he ever has been before. Everybody's, everybody's praising how he's fixed science in a way. Like he has a whole different way of recovering from injuries. We thought that it was going to be a year or so to recover from this injury. Aaron showed us that it could be, you know, a couple of months plus a 21 day window plus three weeks after that. So like, if anything, I don't see how you could say he was the big winner here. This is how you get a guess, Dan. I taught him well. So proud of you. Just compromise all your principles. Say whatever needs to be said at a microphone. You said that, not me. Levitard, Colin, all of the things I just said.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Levitard, you could have sent it. That sentence should have ended earlier by surrounding myself with you guys. It's just Levitard. Colin. I just can't really take seriously who this guy has been throughout this season. As a football player, hold on. You can't take someone else seriously. But the elf can't take this seriously. I am dressed as an elf. It's not my fault. I don't have an aim or a face. I have to be somebody else.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Look, I want to hear you out on this. Just make it short. Departus. Can you? Can I? Can you really just vote for four minutes? I'm the head. Is wrong.
Starting point is 00:08:01 You expect that from me. Four minutes. That's correct. It is my show. What are you going? I, the part of this that is frustrating is not that he is a bad teammate is not that he's bad at football.
Starting point is 00:08:18 It's that he spent this entire year as he has for years now lying right to our faces about the status of his health. Chris Cody tried to clip that Dan out of there. Yeah, I did. Just directly. It's you, but he hasn't gotten good enough. I see you're not even going to clip the songs before they embarrass you.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Go ahead and finish your point, Jeremy. What is that? Are you the only one? Does anyone here agree with you on this? Doesn't seem like it. Absolutely. The frustration that I have just comes from, look, you have a major platform in so many different ways.
Starting point is 00:08:59 He lied to us about his vaccination status when it first came up and then said, well, I'm doing things differently. Yes, he lied. Like, we have to stop with questioning that. He lied right to our faces when asked directly about the status of you. Didn't lie though. It was like play action. Is play action. Well, play action. That's a great question. That's exactly right. He pulled it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you. Colin is play action you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Oh, immunize, move 52. Encroachment. Put it on the poll at Lebedard Show is play action an outright lie or an omission of truth, a slight omission of truth because he was trying you are correct and we seized on that because God almighty, it's the cover up is always worse than the crime. He just read the room, right?
Starting point is 00:10:04 He's just like, I didn't get vaxed. I don't think I can say that. I don't want to deal with, I mean, what is it? Deal with it later. But I don't blame anyone right now anywhere in America or the world for being afraid of the angry mob being unpredictable. I'm not going to blame anyone for. But is it also part of it on us for caring anything about what Aaron Rogers says?
Starting point is 00:10:26 Of course, that's the whole point. And he's going to stand our self-stound. But he's going on platforms and doing things that are actually bad. He's calling out Anthony Fauci years later for doing the best that he can when people have threatened that guy's life. Like, this isn't stuff to mess around with. And I get it completely that that I can't you look like an elf and this is the problem saw myself in the camera I can't
Starting point is 00:10:50 do it. It sounds like we're the losers and the liars. I'm the loser. I'm the liar. I'll have a look at it behind it. I just gave up. We are the losers. Like people out of our way. More society. Look at Jeremy right right now the idea of Jeremy getting the high ground morally as he calls an MVP of football a loser while dressed as an Elf. It's football man. He cares. But you take away to see a nameless elf. The GoFundMe is going really well. You're getting you're getting lots of donations for me to get the two shade tattoo dozens of dollars.
Starting point is 00:11:24 What is the cost to change your identity You should do it for the show change your name What are we gonna change it to Jeremy two Shay? There we go. Thank you Billy for throwing us to the end of a segment with just Dead fish shit Don't let it hard get some golf a SMR This is the down lebertar show with this Tugats. ["Fugats"] After spending much of this centuries,
Starting point is 00:11:55 Tugats, watching Bill Bella check in the Patriots dominate the AFC East in a way that was a cheap code to the Super Bowl, making Tom Brady the greatest winner of our time somehow supplanting Michael Jordan in just improbability of winning when you're not supposed to have such a disproportionate impact on the result in football as you do in basketball. Michael Jordan, the best player in the world, best player in the universe. Of course, he's going to win their five players on the court at any time. Football is super weird, super random. One game samples, the measurement system is screwed up, but we've had the
Starting point is 00:12:33 knowledge for 25 years that Bill Bela check is good at what he does. This has been without dilution. Last week, there was a report not even covered by this show that Bill Bela check is going to be fired at the end of the year. Jay Glazer has told us that there would not be a line of suitors for Bill Belicechek if he became available. This was, this was two months ago, Jay Glazer was saying this, that this is not the next evolution of the young coach, that the damage done over the last couple of years to Bella checks reputation is real.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And now Stugatz is saying, as he did earlier in the show, how many teams would fire their coach right now if Bill Bella check was available? Because at one time, the answer to that was all of them. At one point in our lifetimes, and it wasn't that long ago, it was a couple of years ago, all of us would say, Melachek is an upgrade over whoever your coach is. And trust me, when I say this, Andy Reed was not in that conversation. Andy Reed needed his modern Brady to make an appearance before Andy Reed made an appearance as this guy's one of the best. We spent a lot of time questioning, not people in football who knew how ahead he was on
Starting point is 00:13:51 scheming and everything else, but there were a lot of people publicly questioning the greatness of Andy Reed until my homes became my homes. I think Reed might be the only safe coach in the game. I'm about to play with you, but to your point, okay? To your point, I believe that Bella check was such a hot commodity was considered the greatest coach of all time that even after the giants beat them twice in the Superbowl, if you call the giants the next day, it said, Hey, get rid of Tom Kaufflin because Bill Bella checks coming to town, the giants would have done so. I mean, do you think you're saying Andy Reed right now? I think they're alive. He said he said, I think there are a lot who are
Starting point is 00:14:28 saying, I'm not so certain. I don't think the dolphins would want Bella check right now. If they'll, if the dolphins get bounced out in the first round of the playoffs and Bill picks up the phone and he calls Steven Ross and says, I want to be your coach. You're crazy. Wait a minute. You're saying weeks from now. I'm saying right now. I'm saying the phone call is being made today. You're saying if the season ended today, Dan? Oh, wow. Oh, two games now.
Starting point is 00:14:51 You got to let the season play out though for this game to worse. Like, if you want to do it season ended today, I'll do it that way. But what if the dolphins go on to win the Super Bowl, then they would not fire Mike McDaniel? But what I think, other than Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDaniel's offense is like the best, like in terms of an offensive mind that other just want hear me out. Okay. The offense go to the playoffs, lose their first playoff game, get blown out.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Bella check picks up the phone, call Steven Ross and says, I want to be your coach. What is Steven Ross doing? No, thank you. Are you kidding me? Maybe defense accord. Are you kidding me? That's insulting. I have kidding me? Maybe defense accord. Are you kidding me? That's insulting. I have a team that would right now fire their coach, leading their division
Starting point is 00:15:32 would fire him right now to get Bill Balecheck, like Bucks. What a thing because I tied a seven to seven. The Dallas Cowboys. There you go. Jerry Jones would fire Mike McCarthy in one second to make Bill Balecheck to coach today. That's tremendous. There you go. Jerry Jones would fire Mike McCarthy in one second to make Bill Belichick the coach today. That's tremendous. That's right. A 10 and four. Right. What if McCarthy wins the Super Bowl? No, we're playing today, though. Okay. Today. You're playing the wrong game. That's why it's my game. You guys have changed the game. I wanted to see the play out. You're doing it. It's not the season at the today. It's your game and you're changing your game. Oh, not. Well, but you're giving us hypothetical examples about who would replace their coach with
Starting point is 00:16:08 a disastrous finish. It is. It is. Also, you guys think Jerry Jones is the guy that's going to bring in the big ego coach. That coach, yes. That coach. I'm not sure. I'm with Billy on this.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Jerry Jones prefers a puppet. He does not want somebody. He had more cells there. More power. It is interesting to hear the way Mike McDaniel talks to his players on hard knocks. Right. He calls to a bro. Right. And it was I was watching last night. And I'm just thinking it was the first time it really set in with me. Like, oh, wow, like we're talking generations here. Like they he is relating to these players. like Belicek's not calling Mac Jones bro. Let me try this one.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Belicek calls the bills. It says, Hey, I want to be your head coach. Do they get rid of Sean McDermott? Because I believe they would. I do. I think that's where Belicek should go because you want to apply maximum pain to the Patriots on the way out. You do. Should we play it this way?
Starting point is 00:17:03 I have seven teams written right here that I don't think would take Bell check. Wow. I get to different game. I mean, it's the same game. It's the same game. You want me to give them to you? Sure. The dolphins, the Ravens, the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I need the results, though. You guys are crazy doing it this way. So you want a three game sample size to really make this decision. Well, if Dan Campbell gets knocked out in the first round of the playoffs and Belichet calls the lines and says, I want to be your head coach, I'm assuming the line is a yes. The lines were on my left. It's not everyone who runs a business does so in the non-leadership fashion of whatever happened in one game is telling me what I'm doing for the next 10 years.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Not everyone does it that way. I understand. But this is Belichack. Okay, but let's just, let's please, for just a second, imagine the scenario that you're describing, because as you play this ridiculous and fun game, I can't believe that it's December of 2023, and I'm playing this stupid game about Bill Belichack. So pretty.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Like the person that we're talking about, but no, it's not the game. I'm not enjoying the game that you wanna play. I'm enjoying the absurdity of what is someone have to do to be enduringly great in this market space for people not to do the stupidity of Dan? I'm not asking this question now. I'm asking this question after you've
Starting point is 00:18:26 had a disaster of a result at the end. Do you still want Belichack? I'm saying right now, Stugats, from the position of whatever it is that Belichack is 211 or what have they done? They're one of the worst teams in the league. They are. How much has his value actually been diminished that if that phone call is being made today and you are seeing in this division, Stugat, at the top of it, there is a coach in the dolphins who is clearly better at offense, like obviously better at the coaching of offense. Right. Then what it is that the patriots have, I'm wondering how much Bill Bellicek has actually diminished his value when we can combine Jay Glazer saying, there's not a line out the door for this person with what Chris Cody is pointing out. Brian Flores did not work with
Starting point is 00:19:19 two of doing it. The Bellicek way right now, what's happening in Foxboro must be the bleakest of gray experiences going to work in the morning for Bill Bellicic when you know your team's ass. And Jibril Peppers has had to say out loud, you're lucky, we ask. And then had to apologize to Bill Bellicicic's face when that became a viral moment, because he is saying that the Patriot Way is now a dead end toward ass crack. That the Patriot Way ends in the cul-de-sac of there is someone's ass and we're inside it
Starting point is 00:19:57 and it's gray and bleak and cold and also you don't reach today's generation of players with that style. Better for a coach to be more of an administrative assistant, a helpful supporter, an ally, human resources. It's a weird thing to say, but that style is going to work well. It worked better with young people than military discipline. You're saying the style of just throw down your rings.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That doesn't work anymore. Riley did it for LeBron James. It worked there. I think this bellicic check conversation is really just having amongst like podcast hosts and other teams. I actually think that Patriots fans have perspective on this. A lot of Patriots fans I talked to are like Bill can do whatever the hell he wants. I think the people that are really emotional about this do have what you think Bill Bellicic deserves. I think this is more reporters, people who don't care about the Patriots who are looking
Starting point is 00:20:46 for the juicy headline of, ooh, Belchick's on the way out. Oh, but you're saying that. And yet the report is he is on the way out. And Jay Glaser, who knows his shit, is telling it not a line of people. Like that represent, that's not just fans emotional talking or not talking. That I wouldn't assume that a Patriot fan base has perspective. I'm sure they're spoiled and used to winning. There might not be a line today, but there could be a line, right after yeah Could it just be people want to be around happy people and you're just like no, who's my next coach that guy seems pretty miserable
Starting point is 00:21:18 I know right. That's how they're making but he's great at winning, you know, is he though? What about without Brady? What are these lists Chris has a list of people that definitely wouldn't take him and so you guys has a list of people that would. So the Bengals get knocked out first round to the playoffs. A Bella check calls the Bengals, Zactalar might be the coach of the year, getting to the playoffs with Jake Browning, okay? He is not on my list.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I'm with you on, I think the Bengals could be an option. The Bengals could be an option, right? Because Bella check needs to choose wisely here. This is a big decision for Bill Bellaicechek, you're right. It's got to be the chargers. Like that's where he's. Well, that would be the obvious and easy one, right? But we keep here in the commanders, which seems ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:21:54 So he's not going back to Cleveland. That would be an interesting one. The fan's he's done a good job. The fanski has his team in the playoffs. But would you fire Staphanski to get Bill Belicechek? No, really. What? I mean, Tony, that's crazy? What? I would not. Tony,
Starting point is 00:22:05 that's crazy. What? I would not. What? I like Stofansky. I like the offensive. He's about. He could do it with Joe Flacco. Like Tony do it. These offensive minds. You probably say, are you saying this about Minnesota? Cause they got I like Kevin McConnell. They got one of those guys. You keep Kevin O'Connell over him. Yeah. No, they're on, but Kevin O'Connell and Stofansky are kind of in this Mike McDaniel. They just haven't popped yet. Like their offenses have really now we're playing the game. Boys. Yeah, we are playing. Well, here's the game Chris said that the Steelers for sure wouldn't enough for sure. For me, it's their last in the AFC North rate. For me, the three
Starting point is 00:22:37 safest coaches in the NFL, Tom Lenn, Shanahan and Andy Reid. I don't think Steelers fans agree with you on that. What if the Niners don't win the Super Bowl again with Kyle Shanahan? He's fine. Okay. Stugat. Not so sure. Stugat, here's the funny thing about what you're doing. Any season that ends with a disaster at the end, like the hypothetical disaster you're giving
Starting point is 00:22:59 every team at the end, then that coach comes open to questioning and vacancy. But that's reality, Dan. That's what happens. Exactly. People are emotional at the end. Yeah. Then that coach comes open to questioning and vacancy. But that's reality, Dan. That's what happens. Exactly. People are emotional at that time. That's why it's not reality. It hasn't happened. He's creating the hypothetical under which it would happen.
Starting point is 00:23:15 It hasn't happened yet. The Cowboys win the Super Bowl. Takes one. At Bella Check calls Jerry Jones and says, I want to be your head coach. They've won the Super Bowl. Does he get rid of Mike McCarthy? I am not having an honest conversation in good faith with serious people when they look me in the face and say they'd rather have Stefansky over Bella check.
Starting point is 00:23:38 That was crazy. It was crazy. What? I mean, he is not a serious person. He's having Stefansky. This guy right here. He's a good coach. He's a a defense team. This guy right here. He's a good coach. He's a good coach.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Good defense. Good offense. I like defense. Don Lebertard. A recreation of the iconic scene. And if you good men as told by Chris Cody, Spulgatz. Colonel Jessup, did you order the code red? You don't have to answer that question.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I'll answer the question. You want answers? I think I'm entitled to them. You want't have to answer that question. I'll answer the question. You want answers? I think I'm entitled to them. You want answers? I want the truth. I you can't handle the truth This is the Dalabata show with this dogat Unfortunately, or fortunately, based on your perspective, we have now wound up the Stugots take machine and it is pinballing all over the room. Stugots ended the last segment by saying matter of factly while waving an assortment of sausages around. Great game.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Great game we played there, guys. Don't know the game that we played, but it was great. I love playing games and it was a lot of fun. And now Stugots has an assortment of takes because yesterday after saying the Clippers are gonna win the championship. Stugots is now identified that the way he wishes to age in this space is to just say things
Starting point is 00:25:03 that are more and more extreme and make you check on them in seven or eight years. And he says the Clippers are going to win the championship this year. And you want to take a guess on how many championships he already has Anthony Edwards winning, even though Kevin Durant and his personal record book has not won any. These are ball takes. Okay. I said last week that Bryce Young would be better than CJ Strouds. Zach Wilson would be a top five quarterback one day in the NFL. And yesterday I did say the clippers would win an NBA championship this year. The Anthony Edwards one is what I have shared with Dan. Dan is asking you because I have not shared it with you guys. But I think I think he's next. But you've shared
Starting point is 00:25:44 the like is this just a rinse repeat on the honest? He's going to win the next 10. I don't know. Take a guess. See what happens. I love a good game. He's given a number. He's got a number of championships for Anthony Edwards.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Everyone's saying he is next. The Timberwolves are legitimately good. We'll see if go Bear can stay on the court at the end of playoff games because their defensive efficiency is great. And they've only lost what is it five times all season. They they seem a carl Anthony towns as an ancillary player who is fitting a role as a very good ancillary player who can fit that role. The Timber will seem very good. The thing is you guys don't seem to understand the game that's to got his playing, right? So like a segment ago, it was if the season ended today, which Stugat is playing is if 10 seasons from now end today. This is what will have happened over the span of those 10 seasons with the information
Starting point is 00:26:35 I have today. You say it now, and if it sticks, then you throw it in everyone's face. If it doesn't, then everyone forgets about it. But if it doesn't stick, it's not your fault because it's what would have happened if 10 seasons from now ended today. And what happens in those 10 seasons, you can't control. It's not what happened today. So two two champion shots. Two low.
Starting point is 00:26:54 That's not hot taking. I'm going to say fold four. Four. Oh, that sounds like he's getting a damn six eight. What do you want to say? Four is the number that he gave me. He's got him winning four championship. Wait a row in the game, Chris.
Starting point is 00:27:12 It's way that's low for Stu Gotts. Usually he goes like, you know, it's going to win nine of them. Yeah, but that will put him ahead of Jordan. That's never going to happen. I think it's because he's being serious about this. I think it'd be serious. I think the average is going for champion.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'm actually being serious. The guy is so good. How many ISTs? How many ISTs? A-rod would be fixing the Timberwolves as the owner of the Timberwolves. Can I tell you how weird it is to see A-rod sit courtside in his perfectly groomed and quaffed suits and hair and everything sitting courtside at heat games rooting against the city of Miami. It is so bizarre to watch him fist pump when Anthony Edwards is making shots
Starting point is 00:27:49 at the end of the games against the heat. Absolutely strange. There's more than one of him, right? Like a rod. There's more than one a rod. Like the concecos. Like how is it? No, like the Jackson five. Like how is Barry Jackson in five places at once? How is a rod everywhere.A.D. everywhere? How is he in Minnesota courtside? And he's also on the inside the NBA, setting Atlanta. How is, you know, sometimes maybe look around and maybe catch a glimpse of A.R.A.D.?
Starting point is 00:28:12 Like how is he everywhere at the same time? I don't understand. How is he at the triple A? How is he at baseball games? How is he at the Miss America pageant? How is he everywhere? Who are the teams that you guys look at? And you're
Starting point is 00:28:25 like, they're not good. I don't care how well players they have because Minnesota is kind of in this category for me, but that's a different game. I have a better one. And they're actually kind of good. The Orlando magic are never good. That's it. No, they're good this year. Yeah. They're good. And they've been to be. But I'm going to, I'm going to put Charlotte in that class. Never get this teams. Like are there any football teams that is just like, no, the jazz, not good. Yeah. I'm doing Charlotte, by the way, throughout history forever. I'm not doing just Charlotte basketball.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I'm talking to you. I'm just talking to the wizard sports. I'm talking to the Washington wizards are pretty good too, as an nominee. But since we are speaking of Anthony Edwards, I did how old is he? Can you guys look that up for me? Because he was in a controversy here, Stugat, and salute to James Hardin for really tightening up his private behavior so that this kind of stuff never leaks out into the public in a way that is embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:29:19 But a couple of young players, Anthony Edwards, Zion Williamson, they have had their bedroom habits spill out in front of people because, you know, they do something in the DMs that can be traced. And Anthony Edwards, who right now is in a similar position to the one that John Marant was in last years to got when he screwed it up with bad social media behavior, where Michael Jordan made the template for this. If you're simply excellent at your sport, we can write the commercials around you and wait for you to grow up and create the mythology around you that becomes your image and becomes
Starting point is 00:30:03 an economy, John Morant cost himself tons of money in the optics of everything that happened with him last year. And Anthony Edwards had leaked the DM conversation in which he told a woman, get an abortion, LOL. And what you saw happen after that was the economy around Anthony Edwards going out and saying, Hey, that's not who this guy really is. The guy in the DM saying get an abortion LOL, which sounds to me like the guy really is that if he's telling a woman he typed it out and he sent it right, but this has also been typed out from his account afterward and it was sent.
Starting point is 00:30:41 He's 22 by the way. He says, I made comments in the heat of a moment that are not me and that are not aligned with what I believe and who I want to be as a man. All women should be supported and empowered to make their own decisions about their bodies and what is best for them. I am handling my personal matters privately and will not be commenting on them any further at this time. Getting that real a look at the underbelly of where sports fame is and the dismissiveness of a sentence of get an abortion LOL, hugely damaging to whatever it is that you want to represent publicly as yourself, your team, and your league. To be that age and come into that much money and try to traverse the golf stugat between fans want you to be somebody who's a symbol for their city.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And there are problems when you make money playing a game and have great riches and you treat other human beings like that in private. Whatever that sentence represents tells me more than the PR statement that comes afterwards saying, that's not who I am. Well, what do you mean that's not who you are? Well, the PR statement is cleaning up the mess. I know, but what do you mean that's not who you are? Like, I don't know how that gets said that dismissively under any context. Like you could be arguing with a woman in the DMs You could be arguing with the mother of your potential child and be emotional
Starting point is 00:32:10 But get an abortion LOL is not a mischaracterization. You wrote that that's that that was not a heat of the moment thing That's something that you actually thought that we now are privy to, that allows us to look inside the mind and the life of a 22 year old, who needs to be better than that. Not just publicly, though obviously publicly, but be better than that, just as a human being. There's a bit of like Tom Brennan vibes, he's like, that's not who I am,
Starting point is 00:32:40 even though that's what I said. I don't really believe that. And it just makes me think, like throughout the years of any sport, we never had access to people leaking DMs, leaking texts like this, right? Imagine the stuff that we could have seen back in the day. Oh Tony, Michael Jordan would get exposed all the time by the national inquire and then the machine would get to work and be like, the national inquire, it's not real. There were all sorts of stuff would be reported, and it was only,
Starting point is 00:33:06 it was never the mainstream media reporting it. It was always somebody tabloid, but the stories were true. Like the tabloids didn't have the credibility that you needed to have, but Michael Jordan's reputation was never damaged by it because his machine would get to work, and we wouldn't see buy it because his machine would get to work and we wouldn't see this particular griminess to God's Anthony Edwards. The opportunity he has right now, Stugots. Steph's old. LeBrons, the oldest player in the league. The suns don't even look right because of what is around Kevin Durant and Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 00:33:42 It is time, just like in football, the young quarterbacks are taking over for the old quarterbacks who have the old commercials. Well, the backups are taken over. And the young quarterbacks. And the burrows. Yes. And in this sport, Anthony Edwards clearly everyone says this. He's next.
Starting point is 00:34:01 All he has to do is win at the rate that he is winning, but you're going to see things as he becomes more famous, as a 22 year old becomes more famous, that are going to show you what he is at 22. That doesn't mean it's what he's going to be 10 years from now. It doesn't mean that he's not going to mature out of this. It doesn't even mean that he's not going to learn from from what this was, but I don't think there are a lot of 22 year olds who can handle the general temptation that comes with what being Anthony Edwards is right now. I don't, I, I have not met a
Starting point is 00:34:36 lot of them and when I do meet them, I'm always stunned that they might be capable of handling that, but I would say there aren't a lot of 42 year olds or 62 year olds that can have their life altered in that fashion where you go from being someone who doesn't have any intrinsic value to others growing up outside of loved ones to monster fame where everybody wants to be around you. And now every sentence in your DMs is up there as a defining. No more privacy for who you are. No more pride. LeBron handled it well, but I'm not certain he's the rule. He's probably the exception. He's one of the few who handled it very, very well. Harden too. Like, hardened escapes all this. Like all the stuff that we hear about. Harden, he loves to party, loves to go out. He's got the, you know, strip club
Starting point is 00:35:21 banner in his name. Like, we haven't anything about Harden ever. Jordan Schultz is reporting the charges are interested in hiring Jim Harbaugh. What a bellichet calls. What team fires their coach for Harbaugh? The Ravens is the juiciest one. Oh my God, could you imagine? Oh my God, that John shows the dead and James Raven. Oh wow, that new hire John. Michigan. Oh, the old switcher, dude. Wow. Why do you guys care so much about coaching trans actors?
Starting point is 00:35:59 So much fun. It's so fun. Again, I remind you, the guy who was said to be the best for the last 20 years is whatever. 3 and 8 at the bottom of the A&C E's. 3 and 11.

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