The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Guy Don't Wanna Urn (feat. Katie Nolan)

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Nikola Jokic continues to do things on the basketball court that show off a level of dominance that is unprecedented, but it's literally putting the Shipping Container to sleep. Then, Greg has some of... the best teeth and gums ever made, but would they survive cremation? Plus, Katie Nolan is here to discuss her new podcast "Casuals" and why it's a show about sports that isn't always as sports as you want it to be...but she doesn't need to explain that to us. Katie tells us about what it's been like to rekindle her sports fandom after stepping away from sports media for over a year, what the podcast plans to focus on with its guests, and she determines which Tight End would be easiest to kill. Also, has Katie ever skipped through the TSA security line? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:10 This is the down labor tour show with the Stugats podcast This episode of the Dan Leventhal show is two gods is presented by draft Kings draft Kings the crown is yours The Grand Levitard Show with Stu Gatz is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. We had at one point some sleepy imaging of us talking about Jokic and the way he's dominating basketball with unprecedented numbers that make you bored because his teammates aren't good enough even though he's won a championship with them and he is playing a form of basketball, I think it can be said, without it being shocking or controversial, is the greatest offensive basketball
Starting point is 00:01:51 that has ever been played by anybody ever. Now we can argue about defensive metrics and whatever it is that you wanna say about Michael Jordan, but the sport of basketball cannot be played better offensively than the way Jokic is playing it. He's the best we've ever seen. We're watching it as it happens. We can have whatever it is our mythologies are about Michael Jordan, but numerically, empirically, rebounds, assists, field goal
Starting point is 00:02:16 percentages from three, offensive efficiencies. There's never been anything like it. How about rings plus minus? Throw Michael's rings in a box, rings plus minus throw Michaels rings in a box throw Jokages rings in a box Michael has six. He has one plus five. How about that? Go ahead and play the imaging We're gonna reverse engineer this thing God like skills on display, but we're feeling so It's weird. We can agree, right? It's weird that this guy can be so unprecedented kind of dominant that you're bored by it. I wouldn't say bored. I think the fact that, and I don't mean to be a jingoist the fact that he is not from the United States
Starting point is 00:03:07 The fact that he's not playing in Boston or Denver or L or Boston or New York or LA, right? I think that factors in and let's be honest. I mean he had 27 points 13 rebounds tennis This one block for steals last night Average game. It's boring though below average average game. His game, his offensive game is not aesthetically pleasing. Let's put it that way. Dunk once in a while. He doesn't care why should we. He has four straight games with triple doubles and he has not played a single minute in the fourth quarter of any of those games. One trick pony this guy. Stugats, just so you know, like when you do a dive on the numbers and I know you guys don't care about this, but when he's on the court,
Starting point is 00:03:46 the Denver Nuggets are a historically great basketball team at all times. And the moment he leaves, they're terrible. Like when you do the sample size of the last few years, like if you just get him five minutes of rest. That's all he needs, just get him five. Jessica, what are you doing? It seems like you're trying to stifle a sneeze.
Starting point is 00:04:08 No, it's a yawn. This lullaby does something to my brain. And Jokic. It is sleepy. I like that he's a one trick pony, but his trick is he does three tricks. I think he would love to be a one trick actual pony. Yeah, he loves it.
Starting point is 00:04:20 If he was a dream, he would be a pony. Yeah. More than any player in sports, except maybe Kawhi Leonard, can I think of somebody who would just rather retire to a life where he was just a retired one trick pony? House arrest.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Wandering around, eating bits, just eating bits and just doing one thing a day very well and leave me alone for the rest of the time But instead he's top three in the NBA in points rebounds and assists per game and no one's done that since 1969 70 season attack on a ring I think you know what do you realize how weird it is to say what I'm about to say? And I think the audience would not know this superstar well enough to answer my question if I don't make it about Whatever he values in dollars if I just say to you do you think he'd be
Starting point is 00:05:08 preferred preferred to be doing that or just you know a shepherd he just he just just wandering around being a shepherd who occasionally can go to the local nightclub hmm which would he choose as a life is he the one guy that you would say I'm not sure I can answer that question accurately? I'm not sure. He could quit tomorrow and train horses for a living. He'd be thrilled. Now is he choosing between that and a basketball career? Meaning has he played basketball already? Has he made enough money?
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yes, it's right now. If you tell him right now. Okay, that's tough. You tell him. I think he goes shepherd. You tell him right now, would you prefer to keep playing the rest of this season? We got a lot of road trips. You don't really want to go to Memphis, do you? Or be a shepherd.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah, shepherd. I say that with confidence. I don't know. I can't say anything with confidence that I can't say it with confidence gives me confidence that I can say it with confidence. I can't say it with confidence gives me confidence that I can say it with confidence. Because it's not a question I can pose to anyone else and have it be a reasonable question. We would all like to be, look,
Starting point is 00:06:13 have you not dreamt of going to a tee ball game and just kicking everyone's ass? Like just hitting home runs all over the place, able to throw the ball fully across the diamond? I mean, he does have the opportunity right now to go do it. Have you not dreamt of being athletically dominant? But why against children if it's a dream? Like, why wouldn't you dream of being athletically dominant
Starting point is 00:06:33 over athletes? Because I can't imagine. If you're gonna dream, dream. Yeah, dream big. You could go to a park and beat up children if that's what you wanna do. You're absolutely right. My dreams go no higher than a local why.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Like, it starts at beating up children in a local playground game, and they don't go to the NBA. My dreams die at the local Y, where I'm scoring 16 and making a buzzer beater. Careful. Are you mocking the kids after you dunk on them? Oh, yeah, that's the... He's shooting 47.5% from three. Yeah, well
Starting point is 00:07:07 that's the thing, second in the league, right? 56% on open threes. That's insane. Just lunacy for a person his size. Okay, fair enough. In all regards, you're totally right, Jessica, on all matters here. For the content in general as it regards excellence for all times an immortal but not really yeah because he's a foreigner and because he plays in denver the rules are you got to play in my city and be from here he's got a roadie at minnesota at chicago at new york at philadelphia at charlottes he doesn't want to get on the bus he doesn't want to get on the bus. He doesn't want to walk from the hotel to the team bus today. He'd do it for goats, he'd do it for horses.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah, more important. It's weird, it's an odd thing to say. We will not find out evidently who skipped the TSA line. That part is really disappointing. That's unfortunate. Very disappointing. Cody still wants to know, right? I need need to know I need to know. Jordan Rogers hmm it's almost too late Jessica how do we get these hints out of you what is it what
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Starting point is 00:09:16 We won't get that out that's Stugats here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old. Right next to the condom! As a subtle reminder. Never forget. This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugats! Greg, do you like hard candy? It depends on what kind.
Starting point is 00:09:41 There's this new hard candy that Progresso has unveiled and it's for soup lovers. It's soup hard candy. Really? It tastes like soup? Would you dabble in that? Oh no, that sounds awful. It's like a chicken noodle soup flavored hard candy. Some things are sacred and soup is one of them.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I mean, what are you doing? I make a great turkey soup. Oh, I can't imagine. I de-carcass the whole bit. Can you talk about your candy? I mean, you're just gonna go on a spiel about your soup. I want my candy to taste like candy. Imagine that?
Starting point is 00:10:09 If it tastes like anything other than candy, it's not candy. It just feels like something old people, with all due respect, would love. You guys like your hard candies and you like your soups. It feels like a good combo for, for an older gentleman to enjoy. I do like old man candy.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Old man hard candy like the Werther's. Oh, those are good. Yeah, those are great. Those are fantastic. But what if it tasted like chicken? No. No. It's awful.
Starting point is 00:10:39 All right, what if your soup tasted like Werther's? That would be good. That would be good. Different game, Billy. That's just like butterscotch pudding. Why do old people like hard candy? You would think with the teeth situation that we'd be looking for softer things, right?
Starting point is 00:10:52 You know what, I got teeth in my head. My dentist, he retired. McGillicuddy? My former, yes. He told me that I will die with these teeth in my head. I have some of the best gums ever made. And teeth, gum teeth combo. I have a gum situation that's A1.
Starting point is 00:11:14 What does he mean by that? Like your teeth aren't gonna fall out? Right, like a friend of mine, just a couple of years older than me, just has dentures now. Really? And um. Name names.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And that's never gonna happen. Mm-hmm. Because you won't allow it? Like if you did lose your teeth, for example. No, I'll never lose my teeth. Your teeth are going with you to the grave. Yeah, well let's say you get in a skateboarding accident, you lose some teeth.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Are you gonna get dentures, or are you just going sans teeth moving forward? I would probably go sans teeth. I think he's saying his teeth wouldn't fall out in a skateboarding accident. No, they won't fall out. Because of the gums or because of the teeth? Because of the gums.
Starting point is 00:11:47 What he's clearly saying, okay, is that he had this awkward conversation with his dentists. When you're dead, your teeth will still be in your head. That's a conversation he had with McGillicuddy. Right. That's good. You can't say that about everyone. I mean, no. No, he's got a good set of teeth. He's saying that you come from good fabric and they are your dental
Starting point is 00:12:08 structure what's been passed down to you make sure someone who will have at when you are a numb skull right in the in the grave your teeth will be intact because you have listen to me right teeth in your mouth yeah in your head yes I have lifetime teeth when when you're cremated, do the teeth survive that or do the teeth? You think it's just a pile of dust and some teeth? I think when you open the grave many years later, you just see the teeth. There's no way this could be so. I've seen videos of cremations, like there's still pieces left. Why have you seen videos of that? What the hell are you watching in your spare time? Shreds of bones, geez.
Starting point is 00:12:46 What kind of darkness do you do in your spare time? That's what Lucy watches on planes and she doesn't want Finebom to see also. You just watch people incinerated in your spare time? Where do you go? Incinerators.com? I'm trying to remember what show it was in. But yeah, there was a lot. Do you get the sped up version?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Kind of like a time-lapse? Oh, it was in that monkey documentary because this woman tried to pretend that she, her monkey died. She had a chimp that she wasn't supposed to have and she apparently lied to the government, to lawyers who were telling her she had to hand over this monkey.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I think she had a different monkey cremated and then said, this is the monkey. He died and I cremated him and they said, there's no way that you self cremated and then said this is this is the monkey it he died and I cremated him and they said there's no way that you self cremated the monkey because there would still be bits of the monkey left so then they showed a cremation and what was left over after they cremated it and there were like pieces of bones yeah that's correct you have to um put it before you put the ashes in like an urn you have to put it through a sieve yeah spaghetti in a colander at the game on Monday
Starting point is 00:13:46 I met someone who brought their dad's ashes to the national championship well you hang out some did what with them How do you get that through security in her pocket they buy the ashes a ticket What kind of bag was it like what if it's you ride pass security with powder in a bag? That's odd I mean let it go that is on yeah I don't think that like bringing your parents ashes to a football game You can just walk past security with powder in a bag. That's odd, I mean let it go. That is odd. Yeah. I don't think that like, Bringing your parents ashes to a football game?
Starting point is 00:14:08 I never heard of that. It's off for ashes. You've never heard of that? I think people do that all the time. Yeah, I thought I read somewhere there was a service of people that will do that, like they'll spread the ashes for you instead of them. They weren't spreading them.
Starting point is 00:14:20 They were just like, I wanted, you know, part of my dad with me. Hold on a second, didn't even spread them? Just went out for vacation? Like a trip? Took them to a football game. That's odd, yeah. I need to stop everyone here and have you all realize that you have somebody being cremated
Starting point is 00:14:37 being just a bunch of ashes with seven whole human teeth on top. That was me, yeah. Yeah. The teeth will survive. I don't believe survive well I don't believe that I don't believe it's ashes and chunks I believe it's just ashes I believe the incinerator grinds everything to dust you're bringing up with you grind anything Jessica we can do a think-piece about what Tiger King
Starting point is 00:15:01 morphing into that chimp movie, a think piece on everything that's happened to America that that chimp movie made you profoundly sad, I don't know if chimps incinerate the way humans do. You and think pieces, I gotta tell you I was thinking about think pieces the entire day yesterday and it's a today. It's a terrible sell like because I don't want to think don't tell me it's a think piece I just want to read your column be done with it move on to the next if I read anything at all. What I don't want to do is have to think too much.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Okay. Yes. I mean right. Think piece the same with the phrase long form right exactly. No, I see long form in like a little like antenna goes up and look ooh really to find out about something I never knew in this. David Grand. He's got a whole short storybook
Starting point is 00:15:46 of all his long-form, Greg, you would love it. Giant octopus, everything. How does your friend know they brought the deceased dad's eye ashes and not a foot ash? How do they know that they actually observed or witnessed the game? I don't know, it wasn't a friend of mine, it was someone that I met that day
Starting point is 00:16:00 and she was telling me, but she said it sort of off-handed so I never really followed up. Weird icebreaker. Did she introduce you to her dad or the spill? Yeah, here's my dead dad in the back. No, but I feel like you guys are a lot more afraid of death than, you know. Not afraid, just.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Just like you're- Just have questions. I don't think it's that weird, honestly. You know what I thought was weird? When my pap died, my uncle accidentally unscrewed the urn and part of his ashes fell out like at the reception. I was like, Uncle Frank. What a faux pas by Uncle Frank.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah, fumble. You vacuum it and what do we do? You can't forgive Uncle Frank. That can't be forgiven. You can't be, Uncle Frank. Maybe trusting Uncle Frank in the first place was the problem. It's a market-oriented situation for Uncle Frank.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Greg, you said your teeth are permanent because of your gums, but when you die, your gums erode, so do your teeth then fall out? At that point, I don't give a shit. Oh. All right, very good. What is, Dax, are you? Tracking all our cars on Carvana Value Tracker
Starting point is 00:16:58 on all our devices? Yes, Kristin, yes I am. Well, I've been looking for my phone for. In Dax's domain, we see all. So we always know what our cars are worth. All of them? All of them. Value surge, trucks up 3.9%.
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Starting point is 00:17:34 I wish I could, but it's South Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like, we're bundled up, but certainly no fireplaces. Still too warm for that. But we do have our football Sundays. And one thing that always makes football Sundays good, and I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this, Miller time. Oh yeah! Miller Lite makes the winter better, it makes football Sundays better, it makes even hanging out around you better. Thanks Mike, that was kind. I appreciate that. You're my friend. When I have a Miller Lite in my hand, pretty much everybody
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Starting point is 00:18:38 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Don LeBretard. Quiet man. Yes. You know, I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife despite that gratuitous line in back in my day. Stugatz. I wish you were here, my wife. I really miss her.
Starting point is 00:18:54 No, I don't. That's the thing about being married. You know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her. I'm on the phone with her for 30 seconds. You know, what am I, hello, all right.
Starting point is 00:19:09 All right, we'll see ya. All right, and then, you know, I'm gonna see her in two days. How's jumping Charlie? Good. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stu Guards. ["I Look Worse Than God"] Earlier, if you were with us last week, you heard people say that I look worse than Chris Penn after he died and then got sicker.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Oh, wow. That's a thing that happened. Yes. And so now, Geez, man. Yeah. Someone said that about you. Yes, that was lovely.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Katie Nolan is joining us now. She laughed out loud at that, by the way. Yes, she was covering her face. And at the thought of you reading it all, Stu Gotson. Thank you. StuGotsbook.com. Where are you on what we're saying in terms of hardest things to incinerate on the human body?
Starting point is 00:19:57 Do you imagine it's the eyeball? Do you imagine it's the toenails? Do you imagine it's the teeth? When people are talking about cremations without looking it up, what do you think is the hardest to turn to ash? It's got toails, do you imagine it's the teeth. When people are talking about cremations without looking it up, what do you think is the hardest to turn to ash? It's gotta be the teeth. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Like what is this? It has to be, like how do you burn that? I can't light that on fire. It's like an anky. So you guys are saying you think that in an urn is a bunch of ashes and the teeth or? No, I think they grind them up. I imagine they grind them up. I imagine they grind them up.
Starting point is 00:20:25 These are also the easiest part to just go like, aw, and it turns to dust. So if I were cremating somebody, and maybe I will someday, I would grind up the teeth, I think, into a fine powder. That's exactly what ends up happening, apparently, is that parts of the enamel of the teeth remain.
Starting point is 00:20:44 The soft tissue, of course, will be cremated, but the enamel and some bone fragments remain. But then, Katie, you're right. They just grind them up into a little powder and throw it on in. Wow. How do they grind them? Yeah, good question.
Starting point is 00:20:55 What's used to grind them? A pencil sharpener. A mortar? No. The same thing my Grammy uses to make meatballs, Greg. What do you think? I don't know. I've never ground a bone.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Really? No? that's surprising. No, I haven't. Katie, I just wanna get your thoughts on something because Greg Cody is often doing his very own show. Greg Cody decided with very bad timing to just shout at no one in particular, guy don't wanna earn. Wanna earn, not want to.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Guy don't wanna earn. So Katie is a guest on our show, you're doing one of your signature lines, guy don't want to earn warner and not want to guy don't want to earns a little higher and pay the case is a guest on our show you're doing one of your signature lines but she has no idea what you're talking about it i thought everybody knew that get a little earlier and get a little here uh... katie now spree standard katie do you would you like to try and analyze what he was trying to say with bad timing there are doing and then he'll explain it to you so you want to get the way that he you were so careful
Starting point is 00:21:48 the first time you are on with us he waited about forty five minutes before speaking greg cody just speaks when he wants to that i don't want to guys don't wanna earn so i assume you're saying a person doesn't want to be cremated input into an area and you're quoting something that already existed that sounded like a guy don't want to earn to you? Guy don't want to earn, guy don't want to learn.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Guy don't want to learn, guy don't want to earn. You're just saying it more. It's not helping. It's helping me. It means, and it's, I know it's guy, but you know, it applies to women as well. Thank you. Guy don't want to earn. It means you're not working hard.
Starting point is 00:22:25 You gotta wanna earn. Gotta wanna learn, gotta wanna earn. Yeah. And it's a play on earn. So it had nothing to do with earn. No. So we were just talking about. Play on words.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Cremation and also separately earning E-A-R-N. Yeah, classic two-two-two situation. Yeah. Right. When I hear a word that has another meaning to it or a pun can be created. Yeah, it's the Kornheiser School of Aging. Yeah. Ah!
Starting point is 00:22:46 That's it, that's comedy in your 70s, baby. Just make things rhyme and then go to the grave. No, that's true. Somebody says he's got a lot of pride. I'm gonna make a Charlie Pride joke. I can't help myself. Thatta boy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Katie, enough shenanigans just to catch you up on what we were talking about earlier. Who do you think would be the easiest tight end to kill? Wow. Oh. All time. I thought it was hardest tight end. We agreed Dallas Goddard.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Easiest and hardest, yeah. But easiest? I didn't know what we were doing. I mean, Gronk. Well, naturally we were talking about immortal tight ends because of the game that we had this past weekend. Sure. Yeah, Gronk, we were talking about it off air, outside.
Starting point is 00:23:25 I think that Gronk would be the easiest to trap in a box with a stick. Like, you lure him in. You could lure him anywhere, I feel like. And then you get him in a bamboo cage and you just kinda let him run around in there. It's fun, I wouldn't wanna kill him, right? But heaven forbid he gets out.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Right, but I do think he'd be very easy to just tell him a couple things and say it's okay And if it starts to feel scary in there, nothing's happening You're okay And he would just you know sit there in that gas chamber that I just lured him into and then boom Put it on the pole, please juju. Could you fool Gronk with a handful of lollipops? What the answer to Gronk seems to be, because the place we started is he's both the hardest
Starting point is 00:24:07 and the easiest, easiest to fool, but physically we started talking about, how do you start to solve this problem if it does not want to be killed? Okay, fair. As one does this time of year. Why are we doing, I don't like this. It's Billy the third time, it's a wild Billy Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:24:24 Jess. Championship weekend, I mean. Wait this. It's Billy the third time, it's a wild Billy Wednesday, Jess. Championship weekend, I mean. Wait, the hardest is Tony Gonzalez, because he's connected to Bezos, and so he's probably got shooters. Ooh. I do and have wanted to talk about the inauguration
Starting point is 00:24:39 and Bezos, I don't think we wanna do that now. Katie Nolan is here, and I should announce to the people, I'm very excited about this, I'm very excited about this. I was very excited to see it. She is making her triumphant return with Casuals. She is at Sirius XM. That's where you can find our show as well, 12 p.m. Eastern on Channel 85.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And Katie, I was just thrilled to hear, because I've been watching the content you've been making with Pablo, with Dan Soder, just the things that you've been doing. I like to see you back in the game in a way that feels vibrant. Hey, thanks, Dan. I will say we're not on SiriusXM. We're a SiriusXM podcast,
Starting point is 00:25:17 and you can get that wherever you get your podcasts. But yeah, it's fun. It's just, you know, I don't have to tell you guys what it is. You know what it is. It's just a show know, I don't have to tell you guys what it is. You know what it is. It's just a show that's about sports and it isn't really about sports as much as people seem to want it to be sometimes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:32 When you work in sports media, I'm not going to explain this all to you guys. I've been doing this to like outside. I've been doing outside of sports media, like the media rounds today. And so that speech is very different than the one here. You guys know what it is. Well, but so, yeah, because I'm very excited about a number of different things here, okay, but also from afar, and forgive me to start here,
Starting point is 00:25:54 but it seemed like the Apple baseball experience would seem from afar super scarring, just unpleasant. I mean, Bob Costas at the end is fighting with the baseball purists about how he announces game You're really diving right into this man It's a day of celebration because I want her because I want people to understand what her return means like it's to me She's gonna get to do something in her voice now Unencumbered by other things and I'm excited to see what that blossoms now that she's been strengthened by the bull that this media business does
Starting point is 00:26:24 That's good. That's good that this media business does to people. That's good. I'll give you some grief you can eat. So it was like, it was tough. Apple was tough. It was a swing not to get into the baseball metaphor, but it was a thing I tried. They pitched me on it.
Starting point is 00:26:36 At first I said no. Then they came back and they were like, we really, we weren't joking. We think you can specifically bring what you do to baseball. And then after one game, that wasn't what they wanted anymore. And you know, if you work in the media, that happens sometimes. You get sold a bill of goods, you say yes, and then things change and you adapt. But adapting in baseball is a lot harder than maybe other sports,
Starting point is 00:26:57 because it's not a sport that does a lot of change or rapidness. And so it was just sort of a, look, it was a season, I got to go for free to a bunch of baseball stadiums I'd never been to and watch live baseball from the best seat in the house. So you're not gonna catch me complaining like it was some sort of traumatic experience. Were people really, really, really mad and mean?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah, but I got back in touch with baseball. I love baseball like I used to now, which is awesome. I'll never be mad about that. And I also just think like, yeah, the podcast for me was like the last, after baseball, I took a little bit of time to just like, all right, let me not, let me get out of sports for a second and like go back to liking sports as like a person who likes sports, not somebody who likes sports. And then the next day is going to have to talk about them all because that changes the way you watch it. And so I just kind of went back to being a lady that likes to sit at home and watch sports and talk about it with her friends and then was like,
Starting point is 00:27:51 surely we can make a podcast of this. And so here we are. It's just, I just want people to have an in. that if they don't already know everything and they don't know the inside jokes and they don't know the references and they don't, they just can come, you know, find out on Casuals and see if sports are for them. Because I think, you know, Dan, I'm not teaching you anything new here. I think we lean bro heavy in our coverage of sports. And I think there are gals who might be interested in sports. You don't say.
Starting point is 00:28:20 But who are turned off by all of the sleeveless tank tops. Those are my favorite. Katie, how did it feel just being a sports fan? but who are turned off by all of the sleeveless tank tops. Katie, how did it feel just being a sports fan? How did that feel? It rules. It was so much different. I was like, oh my God, I can just like, if I miss a play, I don't have to be like, go back. If this is key, I need to know where were they on the field? What was the down in distance? It's just like, you're just watching the sport.
Starting point is 00:28:43 It's like the emotional ride. The whole reason I loved sports in the first place is it's like human interest, it's like happening live right in front of you. Nobody knows what's gonna happen unless gambling money eventually. Oh, we're on DraftKings Network, let me not say that. But like it's happening in front of you,
Starting point is 00:28:57 no one knows, everything's like, anything could happen at any given moment and we're all experiencing it. We all have this weird emotional tie to it. Like, it reminds us of our families and our dads, and it's like how we communicate with people we love in our lives. But it's just a sport.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It's just like a silly thing, especially now with all the goings on. It's just like a, it's a thing everybody can love, and I feel like we're not helping enough people love it. Katie, I listened to the first episode, and you and Stavros were just basically cracking up the entire time on hating on each other's fandoms and creating sort of mini rivalries within it.
Starting point is 00:29:35 So how much of this is going to be just celebrating sports versus kind of enjoying that friendly you know, shit talk? I feel like it's going to depend on who we're talking to, right? Like, so a lot of people, when they, a lot of people are bringing fandom with them, and we will figure out what they're fans of and where their fandom comes from, and what their connection to it is, and obviously if there's somebody that, like, if they're a Yankees fan, there's gonna be some playful, fun tension there. But we also have a lot of guests who, like, you know, comedians who aren't sports fans,
Starting point is 00:30:07 don't consider themselves sports fans, and we'll talk to them about like why that is. And like, I always think it's really funny to get funny people's perspective on something that you know, but they don't. Because they always are bringing these fresh eyes and they're watching sports and going, why is it like this?
Starting point is 00:30:23 And you go like, well actually I've never thought of it that way, why is it like this? And you go like, well actually, I've never thought of it that way. Why is it like that? So I'm hoping to have a lot of moments like that. It's just basically gonna be like, tell me what you're into and what you watch and why you care about it. And then we go through the news that was interesting to us that week.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Katie, I feel like you're uncommonly discerning and that you know what feels good in the making of content. I would imagine over the last couple of years, wherever it is that people like Stavros make things, that you found some inspiration in. I've got a really cool lane to make something that is adjacent to some cool people and creators and I've learned some things that the hard way in the media business to make this exactly the kind of
Starting point is 00:31:11 people I want to collaborate with. Yeah, I, um, I've, I met a lot of cool people through doing this job. And then obviously my fiance being a standup comedian comedian, I now, a lot of my friends are stand-up comedians. And it's just like an interesting group of people that I have a connection to from all these different places that I'm like, why wouldn't I bring them in and talk to them about the stuff that I love with them in a unique way?
Starting point is 00:31:44 Like Ken Jennings, we're trying to get Ken Jennings because, like, obviously I met him doing Celebrity Jeopardy! And I think it's fascinating that on Jeopardy! these really smart people always suck at sports categories. They just never have any sort of understanding about, like, the most basic sports questions. And I was like, what if we have Ken Jennings on and we ask him why he thinks that is? And like what it is about sports categories in Jeopardy that like makes them not work as well.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And like, and then I was like, well, who else would, where else would that content come from? And I don't know. So I made casuals so that we can talk about that kind of stuff. Every Tuesday and Thursday in the Sirius XM app, wherever you get your podcasts, I wanted to ask you about what you think's gonna happen
Starting point is 00:32:28 with Tom Brady, but I also wanted to ask you the difference between how you're selling this endeavor during your media tour and the difference between how you should sell it here, because I really do believe this is gonna be a special thing that you make, because you've done a lot of hard-earned learning about what you want and what you don't want from this business, so I believe it's gonna be the best thing that you make because you've done a lot of hard-earned learning about what you want and what you don't want from this business so I
Starting point is 00:32:47 believe it's gonna be the best thing that you do. That's nice of you. What was your question? It's a good question. What have you said most often while on this media tour? He wants to know your pitch to the people who don't realize what it is you're doing. As you're going around saying hey casuals ituals, it's a podcast for you. How do you sell that to others who aren't familiar with your work versus how you would sell it to us? Okay. So what I've been saying to them is basically like, it's a sports podcast for people who
Starting point is 00:33:16 don't listen to sports podcasts. It's a sports podcast for somebody that's like, yeah, I know how sports work and I know them. And maybe I played them when I was younger, like I don't keep up with them because I'm kind of bored with the way like it's not I'm making them this for like my sister-in-law who I'll watch sports with when we're on home for holidays and we'll be watching the pregame show and she's like I'm sorry can I put something else on until the game starts they keep talking about the same four numbers and none of those numbers are like
Starting point is 00:33:46 matter to me. And it's, you know, those people, the ones that are like entertained by the sport, but the stuff around it, they're sort of like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not probably gambling on it. And I'm, I never thought I would go pro. So the, these numbers don't really matter to me. I just kind of would rather laugh and we can laugh about the sport, but the laughing is sort of the important part. And the main part of the pitch has been like, for whatever reason, sports is really siloed.
Starting point is 00:34:11 So if you're listening to like an entertainment podcast or a pop culture podcast, it'll cover almost everything except sports, unless it's like a big sports story, like if Aaron Rodgers does something stupid. But they won't really touch on like, oh, and also we're in the divisional round of the playoffs. And so I feel like people have a hard time getting just like basic level entertainment sports content that isn't specifically sports content. You know what I mean? I feel like you're not bumping into it unless you're signing up for the other stuff. And so I want to give people just the like pop culture entertainment entertainment, sports stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:47 So you'll be aware of what's going on in the world of sports, you'll be able to use it to your advantage small talk wise, because I think that's one of the best things about sports is you can just like talk to, you know, your door guy about their teams. It's just like a little connection you have with them. And then also ladies, the men in your life. I feel like the emotional door to a lot of men
Starting point is 00:35:08 is their sports teams. It's just like where you guys are putting all your feelings. And so to have access to those. Yeah. Yes. It's unbelievable. Hey ladies, do you want a portal to the caveman in your life? Katie, I have two questions.
Starting point is 00:35:24 One, have you ever cut at the airport the TSA pre-check security line? And two, do you have any guesses, because we're being told here that someone in the media covering college football cut the line, a massive line in Atlanta, leaving that game. Have you ever done it? And do you have any guess on who it could be in the media?
Starting point is 00:35:43 The hints we have, they're white and they're a man. Oh, that narrows it down. I never heard white. Cut the TSA line, meaning like how? I would, there'd be a riot if you jumped in the front of the line. Well, it was so chaotic that the line, like it was hard to tell where the line started,
Starting point is 00:36:03 so it was just one of those where it was like, oh, where do I go? And then I stumbled into a cut. And then someone was like, oh, I'm above the rules, and also no one's gonna say anything, so I'm gonna cut. Yeah, who's gonna yell Lee Corso, you know? Yeah. I would bet, I mean, I would bet Herb Street.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Private, yeah, that's a good guess. Yeah, I started with him and Fowler, but yes, it has to be, like, what happened at the beginning is of course profiling, Negandi got accused, and then it became, it has to be like what happened at the beginning is of course profiling. Negandi got accused and then it became it has to be a white man it's only a white man and so we've made all of the guesses from Tim Tebow to Lou Holtz. Tim Tebow is definitely private right? Yes. But I don't know who's missing like David Pollock's not still around doing stuff off of off of the broadcasts is he? I don't know. No.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Who is the, well the sideline's like Molly, so it wouldn't be Molly. She's too sweet. Also to answer your question that I skipped, I've never skipped the TSA line. I'll say I don't have TSA pre-check, and also I have the thing where I pay them to let me skip the line called clear,
Starting point is 00:37:02 so I'm always skipping the line, but it's like sanctioned, in a sanctioned wayed the clear line was 90 minutes long oh my god I would just check no their salespeople are assassins I'm serious I mean they are crazy that's how they got me I was late for a flight at LAX and I was I ran in panicked you know me and and somebody was like are you late for your flight and you want to skip the line they feast on panic and somebody was like are you late for your flight and you want to skip the line? They feast on panic And he was like it's gonna he's like walking me to the machine while talking and he goes gonna cost you whatever it is A hundred bucks or whatever and I was like don't care fine. Let's do this
Starting point is 00:37:36 The commerce of it is what's clear like I love the fact that they are just trolling the business to God's is like Why didn't I think of this? Can I sell people a government sanctioned, federally mandated, cutting the line? It's legal. You'll pay anything to not stand with your shoes off next to that guy, won't you? That barefooted guy from Des Moines, you got $75.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You want to stand over here? What a grift. It's not any safer. You can just buy yourself. That's the future. That's where we're headed on all things in the future. Everything. That's medicine, too. People are like, oh, I have a doctor come to my house,
Starting point is 00:38:17 and it only costs. And I'm like, yeah, that's like cost prohibitive to a lot of people. I don't think you can like skip the medical line to get to your doctor. People are waiting to see a doctor. That doesn't feel good, I don't think. I don't think we should do that.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Katie, do you know anyone that spread their ashes at a sporting event? No, I don't know if I know anyone that spread, I mean, I guess I helped Dan spread his grandmother's ashes. Other than that, I don't. The wind is always a fascinating factor to me when it comes to spreading ashes. It's like, you toss it, it comes right back in your face. Now you're eating your loved one.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Dan, where did you guys spread your grandma's ashes? Oh, my Dan, my fiancee Dan, not Dan. That would have been a nice thing for you and Dan to do. Dan Lebatard to spread his grandmother's ashes. Weird but nice, yeah. Odd flex by you. It was just weird. I was really sad Katie happened to be there.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I'm like, you want to just eat some of my grandmother? Just threw it into there. I don't know, she volunteered, so I was like, okay, I guess. So weird, she just happened to be around. It was an emotional moment and she comforted me. She held me in her bosom and we just sobbed together. I appreciated the support. I am very excited about this.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I urge you to check out Casuals because Katie Nolan has always made good things and you should support someone who deserves your support with something I'm sure she's making for SiriusXM that is great just because she's the one making it. Thank you, Katie. Did you have Brady questions for her? I did, but I-
Starting point is 00:39:41 Because he's getting better. He's getting a little bit better. He's getting better. I will say he's getting better. He's still got that little thing that bothers me that is that his, those teeth he has might be the wrong size for his mouth. I do wish he would. And I googled it. You can have them, you can go back to the person who did them and be like, can you shave these down a little? And I think that that'd be in his best interest. I hear his teeth when he talks. Yeah, big teeth. Horse teeth. Put it on the poll please. Do you hear Tom Brady's teeth when he talks? That is a horrific announcer criticism. Meaner than anything that anyone said to Katie on Apple. Him and Bob Ryan. But he's getting better.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Wait, who else is this? But he's getting better! Bob Ryan. No, not Bob Ryan. I'm thinking Rex Ryan. Rex Ryan, you can hear his teeth when he talks. Oh my God. Oh my God. It's worse. It's not Tom, yours isn't as bad. Yours aren't as bad as that. What a horrible thing to say about a broadcaster! Like truly horrible! I can hear his teeth when he talks! Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah, sold it to Carvana. Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy. The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest over 36 months? Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Just like that? Yeah. No hassle? None. That is super convenient. Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience. Pick up these may apply. Hey, Jeremy.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Yes, Mike? Have you ever had a fireside conversation during a football Sunday during the winter? Sure. We don't have a lot of fireplaces down here, but I've had the premise of it. I wish I could, but it's South Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like, we're bundled up, but certainly no fireplaces. Still too warm for that.
Starting point is 00:41:28 But we do have our football Sundays. And one thing that always makes football Sundays good, and I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this, Miller time. Oh yeah. Miller Lite makes the winter better. It makes football Sundays better. It makes even hanging out around you better.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Thanks, Mike. That was kind. I appreciate that. You're my friend. When I have a Miller Lite in my hand, pretty much everybody is my friend because we are like-minded. Because we like beer that actually tastes like beer. Oh, and now, the new year,
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