The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Half a David

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

Lucy gets sent to the therapy couch for being incredibly wrong, and Amin is here in costume as Baby Billy from Righteous Gemstones. Will he be able to remain in character? Then, Amin discusses the Jas...on Kidd take, and the crew listens to Larry David claiming Curb Your Enthusiasm is coming to an end. Plus, Amin says a NBA rule tried to fix a problem that didn't need fixing, and he sees a bright future for this Knicks team. Also, the Horns Down debacle is tearing the office apart, Billy Gil saved the bats, and the effect of Tom Brady on Greg Olsen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. I am sorry for the audience and for Lucy. I'm going to have to punish Lucy here. I think that's, yeah, it's gonna be her. For what? Well, you got all the betting numbers wrong. The LSU receiver, Boot was his name?
Starting point is 00:00:36 Boutet. Boutet is his name? You had him winning $400,000 and in 2022 2022 he lost $65,000 and last year he lost $16,000 so the information was wrong. He didn't win $400,000 making 9,000 bets. He lost $200,000 or he lost $81,000. According to Hill. According to the affidavit. Huh. Oh, shit. What is that?
Starting point is 00:01:09 What is that? The person, a thing, I mean. It is, what is an, it's a guy named Affidavit. Go sit on the therapy couch, out. That's fair. Yes, you've gotta get those numbers right or closer to somewhat accurate than the way that you portrayed it.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I prefer a whole David. So not half a David. You get a whole Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm which allows me to segue into what I wanted to talk about with Amin Alhassan who has arrived here. He is our basketball expert. Also a whole David. His character. He is dressed, thank you Billy for the clarification he is dressed as baby Billy and The look suits him you look dapper righteous gemstones is a magnificent show
Starting point is 00:01:57 I'm surprised someone didn't make it sooner. Welcome to the show. It's nice to see you again You could check out Amino Hassan on Oddball with Charlotte Wilder every day, except for Monday on the DraftKings Network. Let me put this time wrong, because time is money. You out here, you're talking, you're jibber jabbing, you're wasting my time, boy. Get to the point. Okay, you're going to be in character. Billy is not confident about this character.
Starting point is 00:02:20 We actually, right before he spoke, had a bet saying, is Amin going to pretend he's not Amin and he's just going to be in character the entire time. Shut actually, right before he spoke, had a bet saying, is Amin going to pretend he's not Amin and he's just gonna be in character the entire time. Shut up nerd. Go on, get out of here. You have your answer. I'm sorry, is somebody trying to talk while I'm working? I hope Mandela of the Athletic led me wrong. I have never been wrong in my life ever until today and I hate this feeling. This is not great. This is not fun. I will never make a mistake again.
Starting point is 00:02:47 That's not that she will make many mistakes. We pride ourselves on our mistakes around here. I wanted to bring in a mean on some of the basketball stuff that we were talking about though. Do you have any objections the way that Stugatz did to Jason Kidd saying that Luca is better than Dirk Nowitzki and in the class of LeBron and ascertain whether they're telling the truth or not I'm not tell you right now that that Jason Kiffel. He's a lion. He's a lion. I'm with you still gots It's not a terrible baby really really left out. I'm having a hard time in Miami people are not friendly here and the girls on bumblebee ff See that's better is there I'm having a hard time in Miami. People are not friendly here, and the girls on Bumble BFF are not very friendly. See, that's better, is there?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Now she's getting into the rhythms of it. You talk about your personal life a little bit. What is Bumble BFF? Anyone want to? Everyone should want to be my friend, but no one wants to be my friend, and it's really hard. And you know what, I think I have to go back.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I mean, it's not a really great break. This is a tough city to make friends in. mean have you noticed this please come out of character I can't do this much longer with you. Well, why not then? You lasted four minutes. I mean is he gonna stay in character a game we could play baby Billy's Bible bonkers Yeah, let's play that It's God's favorite game. It's a good impersonation. He's got the rhythms of it down in a way that surprised me. Is that the same hair I had on yesterday?
Starting point is 00:04:35 The Larry Bird? The Larry Bird hair, the stew bird. I got a couple of cold beers in my pocket if you want one. In Miami because, you know, my parents probably should have been a little nicer to me and then maybe I could have made friends easier and I don't know this is. Wow that took a dark turn. Anyway the thing that I wanted to play for you guys from curb your enthusiasm because
Starting point is 00:04:54 I saw this I don't know how many of you keep in mind Larry David is a genius responsible for 25 years of unbelievable television and I don't think that the people listening to this or just about anybody watching it understands just how much work goes into having to do those shows well. And he's tired. So he's on the red carpet last night, Sturgats. And when I saw the trailer for Curb Your Enthusiasm, and I say this as someone whose show is also aging. It was hard to watch the trailer because of how old they all look,
Starting point is 00:05:29 just physically moving around. It's old people moving around, and it's slightly less funny than it used to be because their standard is impossibly high. They've been dictating what's funny on television and on HBO for 25 years before, 12 years before HBO and now the last 12 years and this is him being curmudgeonly on the red carpet here. Listen to him. Why is this the final season? I don't know. I've got more. I've got more. Why is this the final?
Starting point is 00:06:05 Because, you know, it's time. It's 12 seasons. That's a lot for a television show. Over 24 years. 24 years. So, yeah, it was time. But a lot of people don't believe you. A lot of people say you've said it before.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, I said it before, but I wasn't 76 when I said it, yeah. So, you're gonna go on tour, you're doing a comedy tour? How are you gonna like... It's not a tour, I'm not going on a tour. Are you going fishing? What are you doing with your free time? I'm doing two appearances, so what? Oh, is it limited? That's limited. What am I on a bus now?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yes! You're gonna bus? No, it's not a tour. Who's the guest star that you didn't get that you wanted so much? There's no such thing, yeah. Who's your favorite? Do you have a favorite? I wouldn't say. I don't want to hurt the feelings of the other guest stars. Favorite episode? Favorite episode? I'd have to say probably Palestinian chicken. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Favorite saying? Pretty, pretty, pretty? Come on. Come on. It's so good. Are we done? No. No. They're asking me to say it every f***ing time. Are we done? No, I don't want to be done with you, Larry. I love this show so much. Where's my HBO representative? So good, man. Yeah, the show's not done, by the way. Oh! You don't think it's done?
Starting point is 00:07:38 No. I don't think you're watching it. I've never watched it, to be honest. Well, then what? So it's an opinion based on nothing? No, we've discussed this being the final season of Curb for many years on this show. Every two years it seems like they announced this is going to be the last year and it's not. Dead in company.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I just went on their final tour. You know what they just announced? They're going to the Sphere in Las Vegas in May. Okay, by the way, I'll be off. But so it's never over, okay? And Larry, David and Kerrb will never be over. If it's not two years from now, five years from now, when he's 80, there'll be some sort of reunion.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I promise you, Dan. You've never been curious to watch? I mean, there was like times we would have guests or people on their show on regularly. Bob Einstein was on like weekly at one point in time. He was a celebrity prognosticator for years. Richard Lewis has been on a number of times. You've never been curious just to watch and see the show?
Starting point is 00:08:32 Nah. Stu guys, I got no time to get distracted by your worthless comments. Get, oh wow, you kicked you out of the room. Get, go. That's really, yes, you gotta go to the penalty box. Is it weird that like I love the show, but also like it's time. Dan, go! That's really, yes, you gotta go to the penalty box. Isn't it weird that like, I love the show, but also like, it's time.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Dan, you better tell this to some of this to walk the fuck out right now, or we done for the day. I mean, I'm kinda with you, Billy, that it feels like it's run its course, but then you see the preview, and he's still making good jokes. He's like, the mirror is how you see yourself. A photo is how you're seen.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I was like, oh man, they're always making me think. The show, I'm gonna put that they're always making me think the show Put that in the pond they're far by the way remains Very good, but it is hard to keep that particular standard for 12 years these shows don't have those kind of Well no because it's it's twelve season it's Seinfeld. Oh there before that okay, why is Billy? Why are you finding me? Am I am I really gonna have to do this show with you this way the entire time? Well, why are you talking to Mike Mike ain't even here you just said Mike I didn't say Mike he didn't say Mike He didn't go sit with there will be a payday. Oh, hey, what a pain
Starting point is 00:09:40 Go sit with with stew got you guys have aged out on curb, right? You guys are too young for curb. No, Lucy and Tony have no interest in curb your enthusiasm. Less interest in Seinfeld. Seinfeld, you guys were you guys were you guys were babies when Seinfeld was on. Dan, I've seen every single episode of Seinfeld. I'm a big Seinfeld fan. My actually my lock screen is Tom's restaurant. What? My lock screen is Tom's restaurant. What my lock screen is Tom's restaurant The restaurant that they all go to called monks in the show my lock screen is that restaurant Billy you can see it Super fascinating. Well, I'm saying Ohio. Where's your deli? I need something that I
Starting point is 00:10:16 Doesn't matter what the words are so you didn't like the show Lucy I could see Lucy not liking it because like what happens with the show is you experience it two ways, right? You either watch and you're like, wow, Larry's really an a-hole. This guy is so mean and he's so rude to everyone, or you watch it and you're like, he's making some good points. I'm not a great person on the inside
Starting point is 00:10:39 because a lot of the stuff that he's saying I'm connecting with here. I didn't dislike the show. I liked it and I thought it was funny, but when I started watching it, it was like what, like two years ago and I looked at how much of a commitment that would be and I was like, I'm not willing to make that.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Like I can't do 15 plus seasons of any show. Do you think that people listening to this have an idea of how hard it is to keep that show at the standard that that show has been at when he is doing the majority of the writing and they're doing a lot of ad-lib? Like when I've heard them interviewed about the doing of that show, they enjoy it. But all of these great shows, the ones that change television, whether it's Seinfeld or the wire or Breaking Bad, the investment, I mean, you see the care in the product, but I
Starting point is 00:11:21 think curb your enthusiasm fools you because it seems so loose. Seinfeld seems so loose that you would think it's not meticulously cared for when all of those people are putting in 60 and 80 hour weeks and being made crazy by the pressure. Like there's an absence almost outside of the laughter of joy of having to be better next week because everyone's got this standard for what Larry David makes on television And you got to do that for 20 years no wonder he's tired and bitter on the red carpet like get me off this red carpet It's hot what I do is hard like that for 30 years. That's right. He was like that season one too One of Seinfeld 1989 is the same way man more dead shows for Stigatz all of May
Starting point is 00:12:03 All of me he just said I will, they're gonna be there in May, I'll be off without any specific. He said he'd be off before he knew what month it was in. He did not have enough working, functioning brain to fry as much of it as he has at these concerts. I'm concerned about him. Folks, whether you're hosting a game day, a movie night, Dijorno knows that planning a watch party on a budget isn't easy.
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Starting point is 00:12:51 Don Lebatard! Again, started on the breakfast flan. Oh man, I've been singing a song to myself all morning while on breakfast flan. Stugach! You never heard the breakfast flan song? No, hit me with it. Okay. I wish I had some breakfast flaunt. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da Don't let us show with us two guys.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I mean, I'm going to insist that baby Billy gets for a little while and I want some serious. I've been wanting to talk to you about some of the serious basketball stuff because there are a few decent meaty issues that we were talking about that require your expertise because you're more informed than we are. So let's start with what the 65 game rule is doing to NBA awards, NBA rosters where Halliburton or Embiid are trying to play enough games and then are getting hurt. The 65 game rule when it comes to you can make $41 million if you're Halliburton and you make the all NBA team, this seems problematic.
Starting point is 00:14:10 They're murdering players, Dan. Murdering players? Cold blood, right there in front of all millions of viewers who watched. Joel Embiid died last night for Billy Guilder to feel better about NBA players playing. Joel Embiid has missed 25% of the games this season. He's missed 11 out of 44.
Starting point is 00:14:29 He's hurt, that's the point. He's hurt and because of this silly rule, he's playing hurt. Now, this rule was not necessary because you know how many MVPs have won playing less than 65 games? So like two in the history of the game. It wasn't a problem, these awards,
Starting point is 00:14:51 because the voters by and large took that into account on their own. They said, well, this guy's really good, this guy's really good, this guy plays 75 games, the other guy plays 63. They, by and large, you might have one or two voters that go the other way, but for but the most part people recognize if you play alright i'm gonna give you i'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt
Starting point is 00:15:11 in essence with this rule is done is it's forcing guys who are clearly hurt tally's albert was clearly hurt he tried to come back for support one he got hurt again and then it's had a bunch of the games last night he plays a twenty five minute restriction, sits out the entire end of the game, the entire fourth quarter and some of the third to watch his team come back but not have enough. Why are we doing this?
Starting point is 00:15:36 Why are we forcing hurt guys to play? If your thing is like, well, we don't want people to rest. All right then, the voting takes that into account anyway. So it was a problem that didn't need fixing. And now what we're doing is basically killing these players. But can't Embiid say, hey, you know what? Being healthy for the playoffs is more important than winning another MVP.
Starting point is 00:15:56 So I'm not gonna play. Just not gonna play. He did that on Saturday. And he got criticized. Exactly. Investigated. Yeah. By the way, which is hilarious because Thursday against Orlando, he got hurt, that
Starting point is 00:16:07 left knee got hurt in that game. If you watch the game, you knew immediately, this isn't a ducking, this isn't just resting the resting, this guy's hurt. And by the way, the poster child for load management is who? Who's the name that everyone brings up? Is it Kauai Leonard? Kauai Leonard. Kauai Leonard, the term load management entered Lexicon
Starting point is 00:16:26 in 2018, 2019 when he was in Toronto, where he sat out some like 18 games, right? Do you remember Kauai Leonard in the playoffs? Do you remember what he looked like? Remember him dragging his leg? Yeah, he couldn't jump. He couldn't jump. The guy didn't sit out
Starting point is 00:16:38 because he didn't want to play basketball. The guy sat out because he was hurt and he was trying to make it last and it literally took every last drop at the end of that series in the finals So I just don't know if we're trying to curtail the people who are like resting for the hell of it It doesn't matter those guys weren't gonna factor in anyway having this rule just makes it so people who shouldn't be playing Are gonna drag themselves out there. We were talking before you got here. I know it means something to you when basketball matters in New York.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I know that you like the credibility that you have at MSG, that you have... What credibility? A romance, a romance. What you like that you butt up against MSG powers that be and that you are the authentic, you are an authentic basketball voice in New York. I love being from New York City. I love being from New York City.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I love walking around New York City and having people just not even stop in passing, make basketball comments or some stuff about the show and just keep it moving. Literal street credibility on the street. People are talking to you. Starts from the airport all the way in. But this is the best next team that we have seen in 25 years. Easily. Well they set the bar pretty low.
Starting point is 00:17:48 That's true. This is, so the only other team that I think would be in conversation is the Carmelo, Chauncey Billups, Rashid Wallace, Jason Kidd, remember they had like, this is the Expendables and then Carmelo and Amari. That's the last one of no that we can bring up. And then from that, going back on in the past,
Starting point is 00:18:10 you gotta go all the way back to 2000, really. Where Alan Houston and LaTrosse pretty well and all those guys. This is the best team since that. Would you be willing to take the next leap that we were having conversational leap before you got here, which is, and all that said, they cannot win the championship.
Starting point is 00:18:26 For the first time in quite a long time, I'm not prepared to go that far. Oh, wow. Wow. Cause to me, I've been a Nick fan my entire life, and I was telling Dan earlier that as happy as I am with the Knicks being good, they won H-Trade, they won nine of 10,
Starting point is 00:18:45 Randall is out, they've still played well. You take that back! I'd still be surprised just because of the Celtics and the Bucks, I'd be surprised if the Knicks made it to the NBA finals. I would say. Think about this, I mean come on, you could take it back, we'll give you a chance. And I'll tell you what I'm doing, Jalen Brunson is our best player. And then I think about him going up against Tatum and Giannis and their best players and I'm like, how? How? So this is what I'm gonna say. First of all, you're doing the same thing
Starting point is 00:19:14 that everyone seems to be doing and I don't understand why. Which is Jalen Brunson doesn't look like a six-eight guy who has a 40-inch vertical and sculpted adonis so he can't be our best player you know who they said that about eight years ago who Steph Curry yeah oh your best player can't be that guy I mean he's good he's a nice player he can't be he's not Russell Westbrook or James you better slow down I mean you
Starting point is 00:19:38 lost your mind listen to me listen to me at him, you look like a fool. Listen to me, I'm not saying he's Steph Curry. I'm saying the thing that people did with Steph Curry, and y'all can all plead ignorant and amnesia now. But in 2014, 15 years ago, he was saying that can't be your best player. It sounds like you're saying that he's Steph Curry. That is, it sounds like you're running around the house
Starting point is 00:20:04 with a pickle in your mouth. Leave the show references to me please. What I'm saying is basketball for whatever reason has a really dumb heuristic of thinking because someone doesn't quote unquote look the part. They can't actually be on this level. I'm not saying he doesn't look the part. I'm saying their superstar is better than our superstar.
Starting point is 00:20:28 That's all I'm saying. You think Jason Tatum is better. Is better. OK. Do you think Jason Tatum has shown in clutch situations and crunch time situations to be like unbelievably better? He's had some moments. He's had some bad moments as well.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Right. That's my thing about Jalen Brunson is he doesn't look like Jason Tatum. And if you described it to me on paper, I'd take Jason Tatum. And even watching, I'd take Jason Tatum. But the gap between Jason Tatum and Jalen Brunson is not as massive as people want to say. Yannis, Yolkic, Embiid, Steph.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yes. But when you start getting to the Tatums of the world, who's better, but ain't that much better. And most importantly, what Brunson is doing is within a system and within a complimentary group. Everybody's on the same page now. I said it for months. You're all in on Brunson. You are all in.
Starting point is 00:21:22 You're all in. You're all in. I've been all in since last year. I said the Knicks have a civil war between the impulse players and the IQ players. Guess what? All the impulse guys are gone. Well, Randall's still there. But Randall's still.
Starting point is 00:21:35 He's playing well, man. He's playing well because he's finally accepting him because you can have an impulse guy surrounded by IQ guys and his IQ play will increase. And his impulse play will decrease because it's Osmosis everyone is doing it when you got half the locker room doing whatever the hell they want on the court So what why should I stop and think about what am I about to do better Boston or New York? Boston's better Philadelphia or New York?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Milwaukee, oh, hold on Philadelphia. Are we counting health because this is the other part of this that's open It's open in a way because Philly's not healthy. Porzinga's gonna get hurt. Boston, not healthy. Milwaukee, healthy, but hey, like nobody's writing home about this right now on paper, but they don't play on paper, Dan. On paper, the Cavs were a better team
Starting point is 00:22:19 than the Knicks last year. But the Knicks won because they executed and the Cavs didn't. And that's what it comes down to. But then the Knicks lost to the Heat and the Cavs didn't and that's what it comes down to But then the Knicks lost to the heat and Jaylen Brunson didn't have those moments where it was like he I'll be it. He played excellently in that series against Miami. There wasn't a moment. It's like, oh, this is the Jaylen Brunson coming up I think they have fixed complimentary players or more or athletic. It's not just IQ though It's also athleticism. You can you can talk about they were not they were plenty athletic when they lost to the
Starting point is 00:22:47 They were plenty athletic and the heat aren't exactly a bunch of grayhounds, right? What they did is they got rid of all the guys and do not think the game and they got guys like og anonobi and Obviously Josh Hart from last year and Jalen Brunson and Dante DiVincenzo this year and Isaiah Hartenstein from like all these guys now they're all IQ players. They're all guys that are thinking the game. They are the best defensive team in the NBA. I mean they are. That's always what they're gonna do. Hold on. They lost one of the leading shot blocker and rebounders in the league for the year and got better defensively. There's a part, look, hey, I love clowning on the Knicks. It's fun, it's funny, their fans take everything personally and they've been awful forever.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Every team I clown on, I always say the same thing. No, I'm not breaking the mold here. I'm not calling like the Bucks a trash team or the Nuggets trash. I'm calling the Knicks, you guys have been terrible forever. They're not terrible anymore. We gotta accept that. I know, but there's a big difference between they're not terrible anymore and they can win the champion
Starting point is 00:23:49 They can win the championship in this sense Dan. Are they feel are they might pick it up and win the championship? Absolutely not Well, they would be in your top six, but then be in your top day and what I'm saying is look around the league a Who looks like they got shit all figured out. They're perfect, they don't need anything. Nobody. Two. I mean Boston and Minnesota, the Clippers, they all look, they all look, the Nuggets. Name three reserves for Boston. Oh, come on. Al Horford. One. I mean, I saw the, I counts as three. I saw the box score last night and they got all of their points against Indiana from their
Starting point is 00:24:21 starting point. That's my point. Like, so, so you't say, like Brad Stevens doesn't have his clogging shoes on, sitting up like, I'm good. We got it. We ain't got to do nothing. He's not doing that. He's saying, my team isn't deep enough. My team doesn't have enough size.
Starting point is 00:24:37 My team doesn't have a guy off the bench, a reliable guy who's not 300 years old. They've got issues. The only team I could say, honestly say, as long as we're healthy, we're good. Denver Nuggets ain't no other team in the league that could say we're good. Every other team is like T Wolves. No, definitely not. Definitely not. Clippers. Clippers definitely not. They're all looking. Everyone's looking. How many teams are better than the Knicks? Name them. How many teams better than the Knicks? Name them. How many teams better than the Knicks? Name them.
Starting point is 00:25:05 The Nuggets? Boston, Denver, Oklahoma City, although I wouldn't say Oklahoma City can win the championship. Miami. You could say that, you're going to say the Knicks can win the championship before Oklahoma City can win the championship? That's right.
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Starting point is 00:26:18 Edition Smart Bear Plus Special Financing for a limited time. Only at Sleep Number Stores or sleepnumber.com. Sleep Number, the official Sleep and wellness partner in the national football league see stores for details Don Lebatard Amino Hassan Stugatz Amino Hassan This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugatz Lucy may be having her difficulties meeting people in Miami because Miami is unfriendly, but I saw genuine intimate friendship between Lucy and Amin here in the building today when they were screaming at each other, the two of them
Starting point is 00:27:00 arguing about how disrespectful it is or isn't to do a hand gesture upside down toward a team like the University of Miami or Texas. Mike Ryan is someone who gets unreasonably angry about the disrespect in that. Well about everything. But Lucy, to see Lucy say that not unlike Mike Ryan, Texas isn't built for what's about to come its way in the SEC when they can't handle BYU's taunting. That Texas is headed to the SEC and is getting unreasonably mad about people disrespecting their hand gestures.
Starting point is 00:27:40 The Mormons were too mean for them. The Mormons were too mean for them. The Mormons were too mean for Texas. So at a game between Texas and BYU, BYU students wore a bunch of shirts that just spelled horns down, and then had to change after the, I believe it was like one of the first media timeouts, because it was too disrespectful to have the horns down. And this is all happening after two weeks ago
Starting point is 00:28:02 when Texas lost to UCF, some UCF players had horns down and their head coach Rodney Terry, I believe, was like so pissed about how disrespectful it is and it is one of the best things about college football and college sports in general. Can we see that picture again? Cause it looks like in the picture,
Starting point is 00:28:19 you can see the Texas guy who's like, hey, this is not nice. Look at the bottom left corner here. Guys, guys, not cool. Look at the bottom left corner here. He's like, offensive. Not cool, guys. The guy in the left hand corner, I am going to tell right now when I'm gonna get those shirts removed immediately.
Starting point is 00:28:33 But I mean, was furious at you this morning, Lucy. And it surprised me because, I mean, you. Yes, I was furious at Lucy. That's very clearly who I was. This made you mad. I don't know why it made you so mad. It did make you mad. You were yelling at her and others in the room at the table
Starting point is 00:28:47 I did and I stood up and in Lucy's face and I pointed and my finger was touching like the bridge of her glasses Pushing it you were mad. Don't pretend like you weren't mad Tony. You were there with a curse where you were telling everybody Righteous anger though, Dano. He her umped He was misbehaving we pink. We ain't playing ping pong here. I was incensed, Dan Lebatar. Passionate. I was passionate, as I am passionate about several things. But I digress.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I thought, I said, I raised my hand in the meeting and I said, can I ask a question? I said, is there some unknown sexual, deviant, like, hidden meaning to doing the horns down or the UDEN or something like that? And they were like, well, no, it's just saying, hey, yeah, you guys suck. I'm like, so sports, so sports,
Starting point is 00:29:34 the thing where people are like, beat LA. Oh, that's so disrespectful. Oh, that was, they wanna beat us. They said we're down. Girl, the fuck up. What are you doing? Told you he was angry. What are down. Girl the fuck up. What are you doing? Told you he was angry. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:29:47 I told you. What are you doing? I got it Lucy. Like it's one thing. This was all on Lucy's. Look. Face. So a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Number one, I want to transport everybody for a moment, for about a moment to the world of European sports. Where literally they have fires and like fist fights and stuff and people saying suck your mother and things like that of that nature right? They don't say that well. They don't speak English well over there to God.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Suck your mother. Okay, alright, we don't need to be doing that. Okay, right? So then you come over here and say, oh they had shirts and it spilled out our nickname, but damn, not up. Huh? And by the way, a grown man going to children and be like, guys, stop doing that. That's disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:30:34 There's the face of it right there. Damn you. Come on, man. He's in the middle in that picture of saying stop. Stop. You guys, oh, real mature guys. That's what he's saying right there Shut up my part is the Mormons can't cuss so they're yelling like Frick Texas
Starting point is 00:30:54 Until they get a load of Eric Musselman, I mean Nevada the wolf back Frick Texas they can't say the other half for it. Love a good Frick. Bruce Burrell. Is that all you're gonna do, Sturgot? You're just gonna name the old coaches? He's naming the cool coaches, Dan. Not the old coaches. He's naming the cool coaches who wouldn't
Starting point is 00:31:17 bitch and whine about what T-shirts the students section wore. Do you not hear how angry you actually are? Yes, and it's all directed to Lucy to hell with you she's the one who brought it out Billy congratulations your movement worked you saved the you saved the zoo you saved the I salute you for your protest that you arrived late at. You managed to save the bat. The bats are saved.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And eliminate the water park? Yeah, well that part, you know, I was hoping that we could maybe have some sort of compromise where you could have a water park. I love a water park where you could have a water park and the bats, but you know, it wasn't, I didn't do it for me, Dan. I didn't do it for the thanks for the praise.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I appreciate it, but I did it for the bats. No, I did it for the. No, I did a picture and put on social media like look guys. I'm here It's called raising awareness. Yeah, that's how these things work. You did it after it finished You're not raising awareness for anything. That's when the job just starts as soon as the protest and demonstration finishes That's when the hard work starts a lot of people that day went straight home with their signs and their chance and this and that. And then that's when the work starts. That's when you got to continue the movement. Not go and eat at Chili's or Fug Rock or whatever. You went to Chili's? I did not. That was Ron. Dan said, why were you at Chili's at one o'clock?
Starting point is 00:32:36 That was me. And Ron McGill. Yeah, you're misremembering. I stayed with the good fight. You misremembering? Tony, he's right. I love you, but he's right. Because when the cameras are off and no one's paying attention anymore, that's when the real work starts. Thank you., I love you, but he's right. Because when the cameras are off and no one's paying attention anymore, that's when the real work starts. That's when you find out who's in. Thank you, he went home.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Thank you. I mean. Thank you for the segues, Stu guys. When the cameras are off is when people need to pay attention to the real work. It brings me to the transition of Tom Brady was making the rounds yesterday, saying why he's going to be good at broadcasting why he's taking the
Starting point is 00:33:08 375 million dollars in order to replace Greg Olson He's not sharing the booth with Greg Olson and he is saying that he is preparing For this part of his career to be great at it He's preparing the way that he would for games, that he's taking it very seriously, that he's not gonna be Joe Montana. Joe Montana was boring, really famous, became a broadcaster, lasted nine games
Starting point is 00:33:34 because he didn't know how to do it and it is a skill. I believe he's preparing very hard. I believe he has a chance of being very good at this. I just wouldn't talk about it. I wouldn't because every time he says that, he's setting the bar very, very high for himself, and Greg Olson is very good, Dan. Dare I say great.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And so if you're Brady, just lay low, say, hey, this is more tricky than I thought it was gonna be, and then get in the booth, you set the bar low, and then you climb over that bar once you start doing it. I do think, because of his preparation, I think he might be willing to say things and give you climb over that bar once you start doing it. I do think because of his preparation, I think he might be willing to say things and give you a different perspective that he has a chance of being great at this.
Starting point is 00:34:11 He does have a chance. If you're at Brady, do you just like undercut Olson the whole time? Like Olson makes a point and say, yeah, that's kind of cute. Well, they're not gonna be on together. Oh, they're not sharing the stage. No, but you start doing it now.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah, he just said that. That's social media. The wig is affecting your hearing. I just said that. Dan, we spoke to Mike Golik last week, I believe it was. And he told us something that we thought was very revelatory. But he's like, no, this is perfectly normal.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Or he's like, yeah, Tom, I was at a game. And Tom Brady's people were there. They were doing the groundwork. He's already sending his people to the games to start figuring the incident. And we're like, why isn't Tom going to do this like why is Tom setting crews of people to start kind of figuring out how this works and get the wheels in motion it seems kind of like you're doing the prep but you have a team of people
Starting point is 00:34:54 prepping you on the prep by just going and doing the prep for you. But he can't go and just stand over Greg Olson's shoulder. Yeah you can, you just go and you sit in the back like an intern while they're doing the thing and you take notes, you ask questions, you say, hey, what's this all about? What's that? What does this button do? What does that do? How do I cough? Stuff like that, you know what I mean? What's wrong with having someone do your prep for you? Proud of him, Tommy. Whatever happened to a stand-up career? That's a good question. He's like, all right, you know what? No broadcasting, I'm gonna do stand-up. Yeah, you know what I'm coming back to broadcasting
Starting point is 00:35:25 What's gonna happen to Greg Olsen by the way if your CBS do you go after Olsen replace? Romo he's gonna just stand up now if I'm Olsen. I don't go if I'm Olsen. I don't do that. I'm not the number two guy I'll sit it out. Oh wait What's up CBS? Yeah, it's up NFL Network. I'm here Network Wow Just saying can we talk about enough key what Stugatz is saying they're going to pay him in key. Yep, they should. Stugatz is saying something and I think it is actually worth exploring the idea that Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:35:59 is moving into a job that now suddenly start startlingly, has expectations. Because Greg Olson, in the brief bridge to Brady, you took the year off so that you can get good at this, and he's making $37.5 million per year. Like he's going to be doing other stuff, ambassador stuff, and he's going to be making essentially $2 million a game. He's working for three or four months. He's the highest paid broadcaster that exists. I don't think Barkley makes that kind of money. I don't think there's anyone who makes that kind
Starting point is 00:36:30 of money, but he was supposed to be coming into a job that didn't have much in the way of expectations other than people who had soured some on Romo because he wasn't quite as good as he was at the beginning. Olson is now viewed as universally consensus that guy's excellent at what he does and he's not going to do, Olsen's not going to do the old man thing that Brady did, which is, ah, everybody out here now is mediocre. Everyone doing this, that they've run out some of the old people who do that in broadcasting to the products, still to God's that everyone out here is mediocre my way is the best way basically only shacks the one that's still allowed to do this where he calls everybody has all his analysis is
Starting point is 00:37:13 everyone who plays now doesn't do it as well as I do and doggy I'm talking about among the former athletes and I'm not talking about the broadcast yes I'm talking about the people on the games Jeff Jeff Van Gundy, we're in agreement, are we not? I mean, that Jeff Van Gundy, at least part of the reason he's not a part of the product anymore, even though he was very good at what he did is because he was bashing the product. Like, he wasn't celebrating the product.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Sometimes it felt like he was having problem with things that the league would prefer he not give voice to. I'm not letting Bristol off the hook for that one. Bristol got rid of him. Adam Silver did not get rid of him. Bristol made that decision. Isn't that part of the reason, though?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Wasn't that seen as part of the reason? I mean, Silver did put his voice on, I want people who are teaching the game more. I want a new influx of voices and analysis. That was a Bristol decision. Why am I doing a press influx of voices and analysis. That was a Bristol decision. All right, why am I doing a press conference? No, but they're part of what I'm working you here.
Starting point is 00:38:10 What is that? Like you're being, you're doing a press conference where I'm asking you questions and you're being amazing. Read between the lines now. Let me try this one. The NBA and ESPN, they're partners. You don't think Adam Silver called someone to the ESPN. He's gonna say it again.
Starting point is 00:38:21 He's gonna say it again. I don't like what Jeffers say. It's a Bristol decision. We're on to Cincinnati. Bristol should have stayed strong. I mean... It's... I mean, I'm now interviewing a reluctant witness.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Oh, dad. Baghdad Billy over here. The decision to get rid of Jeff Angundi... You said this already. ...remains solely in the hands of the people up in Bristol, Connecticut.

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