The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Hammies Feed The Wolf (Feat. Keith Yandle)

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Adnan Virk joins the show from MLB's Winter Meetings to discuss the latest news swirling around after a very busy Tuesday in Dallas. He tells us who he believes will be the next big name to sign. Plus, he was a big fan of Stugotz's Personal Record Book (stugotzbook.com), especially the chapter about Rafael Nadal. Can Stugotz possibly make it onto the New York Times Bestseller's List? Then, former Florida Panther and NHL Ironman, Keith Yandle, joins the show to discuss his 989 game consecutive games played streak, the Florida Panthers breaking the New York Rangers, how he took the Panthers winning the Stanley Cup after he left the team, and his favorite Bravo shows. While all of this is happening, Jess is getting mashed by Genesis and is willing to put her toughness up against Keith's. Finally, how is it possible that we've ended up in a place where we're questioning whether or not Bill Belichick would do a good job at North Carolina? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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At Fizz, you always get more for your money. Terms and conditions for our different programs and policies apply. Details at Fizz.ca. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. the only thing worse than staring at Adnan in the zoom with the red carpeting and the red wall is knowing that if I had been kept waiting as long as we just kept Adnan waiting,

I would have hung up and Adnan to me looks desperate. He looks angry and he has every reason to be angry. I've never seen Adnan angry though. That's the problem. So I don't know what it looks like.

But I felt like I just saw it. You're in a Dallas hotel room, aren't you Adnan? How do you know that? Listen, one thing David Sampson knows, with all the travel he's done, he knows his winter meetings. I'm actually at the Hilton in downtown Dallas. David's absolutely right. I wish Sampson was here still.

I'd be kissing his keister like everyone does. This is all, it's a big schmooze fest. Every single person you see, quick hug, handshake, how you been, how's the family? You try to pump them for information, you go on your way. It's amazing, I'm terrible at it. I know David would be great at it, and Stu, you'd be amazing at it too.

I'm atrocious, I'm in a room right now with a red backdrop, and as David pointed out, waiting 11 minutes to come on here and talk to you guys. You don't have to get the entire segment in in 30 seconds. Let's take a breath. Well, hold on a second, David. Add in, were you indeed mad at us because we had you in the Zoom waiting room

for about 25 minutes? What do you guys think? It's gone from 12 to 25, Stu. Stu, I'd never be mad at you. Felt on July 29th, birthdays. But mildly annoyed, perturbed, maybe a little concerned. Like I was like, I'm not hearing anything. Is everything okay? Is this still on? Roy, talk to me.

Louis, throw me a lifeline. Nevermind. It's totally my fault because what I was trying to orchestrate, and given the time of day, I thought we had a shot. I was trying to get breaking news out of the winter meetings that Adnan could break for us live and watch his hair become the mess that news out of the winter meetings that Adnan could break for us live and watch his hair become the mess that it is because he's gotta be on the air,

he's gotta be doing 10 different things, he's gotta draw the curtains. I was hoping for all of that to happen and finally Stu said to me, we're starting the goddamn segment. I'm like, but I got nothing, I got no breaking news. I guess we're talking movies. And I told you, I don't care. I have a friend who's been sitting in the waiting room

for 27 minutes. His hair's on fire. I believe Billy is there to say, can't least mention, I'm at the gym today. Nobody cares who I am. Nobody knows me, obviously. The one dude that comes up to me, little squat rack, Carson Vitale,

the new Marlins bench coach. And I was like, Hey, what's going on? Fellow Canadian grew up watching you on the score. I'm from Victoria, British Columbia. I said, listen, make sure you endear yourself to the Dan Leventhal Show. Those are great guys. Billy's a huge Marlins fan. And then we interviewed Clayton McCullough on set. And I'm not kidding, Stu. And they said, Clayton McCullough will join you now. I said, is he a writer for the Athletics? I go, no, he's the new Marlin's manager. I'm like, excellent, great to meet you, Clayton. Good luck along the way.

I love these guys. Carson Vitell, Billy, good man. Did you tell Clayton to be our friend too? I did at the end, because Sean Casey was with me. And I said, hey Clayton, just so you know, those Dan LeBretorio show, they're good guys. He was like, okay, he didn't, Carson was more receptive.

I don't know if Clayton really knew who you guys were. I think it's critical if we're gonna have him as a friend. We have to get his name right. You're asking if he as a friend. We don't know who he is. We have to get his name right. We asked him if he was a writer. We can't. We can't go well. We can't call him Casey earlier. No, we can't call him Casey.

We can't say, oh, you're the Dodgers guy, right? We gotta stop that if we're trying to have him be a friend of the show. I'm begging you guys. Now, Carson Vitale, is that the name you're talking about? That's who's recognizing you in the weight room? Wow, we need to really up our guest game here. No, David, if we do become friends with him,

this could be our inn for the heist. We need someone working on the inn. Oh, the inside man. Inside job. It's not a heist if we get let in the door. We can't buy tickets to a game and then steal the stuff. I thought we have to break into Marlin's Park. Well, we can break in after hours

with the help of someone who works on the inside. Yeah, Carson can give us the blueprints or something. You probably have the blueprints. I have the blueprints. He does. It's like the Lufthansa heist in A Good Fellas. He's the guy. He can get us in there.

But if you remember Ocean's Eleven, they thought that they had all the details, but they changed the floors last week. That's right. That was critical, but Jessica will pay way more attention. So what's the number one thing going on right now in the winter meetings? What are you waiting for after last night's

unbelievable signing that the Yankees did from Max Fried, not Jake Berger being traded by the Marlins? What are you waiting? What are you on retainer here waiting for? Corbin Burns? People right now, yeah, Corbin, I was about to say Corbin Burns.

It feels like a lot of buzz, David. He's gonna go to the San Francisco Giants. NorCal guy, Buster Posey, wants to spend, wants to make an impact on the San Francisco team that, as you know, has said trouble luring free agents. They signed Willie Adamis to $182 million. I like Adamis a lot. He had an eight war last year.

A lot of that is defense, but he also had 32 home runs and drove in 112 as well. So I like Adamus a lot. He had an eight war last year. A lot of that is defense, but he also had 32 home runs and drove in 112 as well. So they got Adamus locked up. They had trouble filling that shortstop spot ever since Brandon Crawford moved on. And I think Burns is the answer. Again,

it's a pitcher's park. He's been very durable the last few seasons. He's a sighing award winner. He's showing he can pitch in a competitive market in the American League East. I think Burns the Giants hopefully happens today. Buster Posey's

not spending his money. So stop with that narrative. He may love spending money. He's spending Robert Johnson's money. Right. It's unbelievable that he's enjoying this. He's a player. You know Buster Posey is now just due.

I don't know. This went past due totally. Buster Posey. I don't care. I thought Buster Posey was like a special assistant. What are you talking about? I don't want to offend either of you, but we're like smack in the middle of football season. I'm talking thought Buster Posey was like a special assistant. What are you talking about? Listen, I don't want to offend either of you, but we're like smack in the middle of football season.

I'm talking about Buster Posey. I don't talk about Buster Posey in July. I mean, you'll talk about Joe Mauer, but not talk about Buster Posey. Joe Mauer doesn't deserve to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. That's different. It's Hall of Fame time. By the way, love the books, Stu. Excellent writing by you.

That chapter in particular was excellent. Just completely discrediting Joe Mower, pissing off the people of Minnesota. Well done. I'm not saying Mower's not a Hall of Famer, but he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer. I don't care what anyone tells me. And Adnan, I assure you, there was no thought

of where the book is marketable when he was writing the different chapters of the players and what he was talking about. He didn't do any market research like, oh Christ, I'm gonna upset Minnesota ins with this take. Got an upfront, David. Exactly, he doesn't need to sell one book in Minnesota. That's not true.

No, wait, is it not a guarantee where you just got an advance? No, I got an advance, yes. So it's not a guarantee. You have to sell books in Minnesota. I got an advance, yes. So it's not a guarantee. You have to sell books in Minnesota. I mean, technically I don't have to sell books, but I mean. Do you have to give the advance back? It would be, no, and I won't have to give the advance.

Well then that's a guarantee. I've already eclipsed it, so. Oh, you have? Don't be modest. I'm not, I told you. David's points to you, right? If you didn't hit a certain number, then you may have had to give back some of the advance.

But if you eclipsed it, you're crushing it, yes? Yes, we're crushing it. So then screw Minnesota. I mean, I would like the five people of Minnesota to purchase the book, of course. I mean, I want as many books sold as possible. Then show some love. I'm not going to show some love. I am showing some love. I'm teaching them what's the difference between a first-ballot Hall of Famer and a Hall of Famer. He's Hall of Very Good. He is not a first-ballot Hall of Famer. He wasn't even the best player on his own team. I don't want to hear about it.

That's book-worthy. Stu, was there any chapter, like when you looked at it now, you've had people reading it, was there any chapter, you said the Dan Stansky, maybe we went a little far. Like the Otani chapter, is that the one that's got, oh, the action? That's the one that haunts us. Yeah, I wrote that.

The opposite side of that. And then I know you saw. Three times you named us MVP, Dave. The only three times you named us MVP, overrated. That's page 204, Stu. It was a bad time for the release of the book, as it relates to that chapter. Then Nadal won, too, because I love Nadal,

and you know I love tennis. But the French Open is a totally different surface, and it does not feel like a major to me. No, I love that, Taker. That was one of the strongest takes of the book. I'm not even kidding right now. You basically just got this guy dominated one surface, and he was able to win a major of the others,

but it's ridiculous. 14 French Opens over 22 overall, it's insane. It's not Wimbledon, it's not the US Open. That was a great chapter. I loved it. That is reckless journalism. First of all, it's a major. Second of all, 14 of 22, that means in four majors,

if 22 divided by four would be five each plus one at seven, it's not that far off. No, but David, very unique players can win the French Open and they won't win another major. Like Gustavo Quentin won it three times, didn't do anything in any other major. But Nadav won every other major.

He did, but he won an overwhelming amount at Roland Garros, yes. He padded his total, David, the one tournament which is a little ridiculous. The red clay, the funkiness of it. It is not regarded in tennis circles at the hallowed ground of Wimbledon, where Federer's one of the most Wimbledons of all time,

period. Do Colorado Rockies players pad their stats in Colorado? Yes. So therefore, Hall of Fame consideration changes for them? I don't agree with it, but that's what happens. The guys like Todd Helton, yes, 100%. I'm going to say, Adnan and Stu, that I disagree. I'm getting no love here.

Billy and everyone's talking tennis. No, they're a pro-federer crowd. Are you kidding me, Jess? Jeremy's definitely pro-federer. I've been waiting to talk about Wicked for like three weeks, and it feels like this is finally the moment. Yeah. Golden Globe nominations came out.

Nice. Jeremy is... I've been feeling loathing, unadulterated loathing for the fact that we have not talked about Wicked yet because it's an incredibly popular movie that's been defying expectations. A lot of people leaving going, what is this feeling? Adnan, what was your feeling about Wicked?

Enough of Wicked. I haven't got a round to Jeremy, I have the screen. Are you kidding? There's a lot of people leaving going what is this feeling Adnan? What was your feeling about wicked enough of work? Um I haven't got around to Jeremy. I have the screener There's a lot of other movies. I'd rather be watching the wicked I watched the brutalist which I love which is a great movie coming out in a week and a half Starring Adrian Brody. I love day of the fight was the film which is adored by the Golden Globes I know Mike Ryan likes knows for ought to I will see wicked at some point But I'm not thinking it's wicked awesome not a high priority Of the year it's an incredible movie all he does is talk about all the screeners he gets. You guys blow past that I don't have access to the buttons here. I'll tell you

right now it's an absolute horse crap that you talk about these screeners. You're Adnan. Splash. You can't even get recognized in the weight room by anyone but the bench coach of the Marlins and you get the screeners for the Academy Awards. I also get the screenplay sent to me, I get promotional gifts, I get mugs sent to me. David, I get a lot of collectibles. Don't be jealous, don't be hatey-waity. I got a wicked sweatshirt. Jess, I'll show you. It's called Shiz. S-H-I-Z. Big old sweatshirt. I love it. You don't deserve to have that sweatshirt if you haven't seen the movie. This is ridiculous. I've been trying to talk about this for weeks.

This isn't even a punishment. This is just because I wanted to get wicked on the show. I haven't seen it either. Neither have I. Neither have I. I hate you people. David, we have some pictures here and we want to ask you if indeed this is the vault. So let's put the pictures up on the screen here.

Where did you, that's funny. What they're showing is for the audio audience, they're showing you every room in a stadium gets numbered. And so, 20501, so two is the second level of the stadium and 05 and two is where the office is. Don't tell people where the heist is gonna take place. Right, exactly, with a good czar. Don't give away your information.

Or I'd knock on mugs all in there too. All the memorabilia he's got. There's so much stuff in there. But seriously, I'm very loving that you got a pic. Wow, wait a minute. Look at the Marlin. It's a big vault. You're in the Marlin.

Let's go. Wait a minute. I'm actually being serious. Is this a picture from Google? This is a picture of where. The actor phone. This is actually a picture of where we keep at Marlins Park stuff that is part of the history

of the Marlins and it is a locked room, no one gets access to it. There is amazingly valuable things in there and there is a rule that it's not supposed to be photographed and I'm actually asking this was this found on the inter Google so you just did a search for Marlins I didn't do anything sources mm-hmm I can't confirm or deny it can't reveal them yeah that's a violation of your documents that people have signs putting a picture on that just FYI

you'll have the last you have not heard the last of this Billy nothing to do that people have signed putting a picture on that just FYI. You'll have the last of this. You have not heard the last of this Billy. I have nothing to do with this. You just put it on the screen for millions of people. I'm looking at the box office numbers right here. Moana too, killing it. Well, if you want to go to the game

and try to find this bonts, you can download the game time app and get tickets. Well done, Roy. Create an account, use code Dan, that's D-A-N, for $20 off your first purseage. Terms apply. Download Game Time today. What time is it? Game Time.

And then we got it. We didn't even get to the movies. Could you go find Break the News and get back to us? David and I have had a best forward movie title list since September 25th. We're still waiting to get the, it's a great list. One closing thought, Stu, this is the best call I can give you. Your book made the required reading column in the New York Post. What? I wanted the Times but I'll take the Post. I mean, he did not, I'll be honest, he did not make the New York Times bestseller's list but required reading the New York Post. That courtesy John Heyman and Joel Sherman. Congrats.

I love it. A New York Post best seller. I mean, how about that? Required reading from John Heyman and Joel Sherman. I love Heyman. Heyman's great. By the way, you're welcome to say it. Heyman's insane.

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I don't think I ever got that many roses in my whole life. Stu Gatz. Certainly not from your lovely grandfather, God may have so rushed in peace. This is the Don Lebatard Show with Stu Gatz. I'll tell you right now that Stu spent the entire break I'll tell you right now that Stu spent the entire break making up a font for his best seller because he's a New York Post best seller, Dan. And I must tell you that as a New York Times reader and a best seller aficionado, I am

sweating with nervousness that you are actually going to do it because you will. I'm going to do it. One information from Adnan, and all of a sudden you're a best-selling author in the New York Times font, New York Post. Yes, New York Post best-sellers list that I'm gonna put out in the New York Times font. What's wrong with that?

Congratulations, Stugacchi. Everyone knows the post is the list you wanna be on. He is doing very well with the sales of his book, but we cannot keep Keith Yandle waiting any longer because I can make the argument, all right, that Keith Yandle is among the toughest human beings that have ever roamed the earth because he just kept playing in hockey games.

Second most all time, 989 consecutive hockey games. It's a lot of hockey games. It's just insane, it's not right, it's not sane. His pain threshold is higher than anybody you know, anyone you've ever met, anyone who has walked the earth except whoever's first on this lift of consecutive games played all time in hockey because hockey players are crazy.

So he's a three-time All-Star, he's a 14-year NHL veteran, and he's an analyst for Amazon Prime and a guest on TNT's NHL coverage. So thank you, Keith, for being with us. And before we talk about hockey right now, I just, can you explain to us the mentality and the suffering and the sacrifice involved

in taking pride in playing 989 consecutive games, second most all time? Yeah, well, for me it was kind of well first off. Thanks for having me It's an honor to be on the show. But for me it was you know from a blue-collar town. My dad's a truck driver My book my parents worked for FedEx and I never once saw them miss a day at work My dad worked the overnight shifts then came home worked another job then coached hockey My mom was doing the same thing, working two jobs. So for me, yeah, I grew up with that, that sense of accountability to show up for

work to show up for the people that are paying you. And for me, I was playing hockey, I wasn't doing anything too crazy. I was having fun. And a lot of it is job security too, because, you know, sometimes if you miss a game, another young guy comes in and takes your spot and next thing you know that you're in the minors or your career is over. For me it was probably a lot more job security and just wanting to be out there and having fun with the boys. Alright no but articulate that last part for a second. If I don't show up for work one day, my career's in jeopardy. The stress and mentality of that. Yeah, even though hockey, you know,

the contracts are guaranteed, you know, with their great union. Having that's a nice bonus, but it's just that sense of, you know, there's so many good players in the world nowadays. There's guys coming up that are young, that are hungry, that are willing and able to take your job. So for me, it was just, I didn't, I never wanted somebody to have that opportunity to

take my job. I took pride in being a really good power play guy. I loved being out there on the power play. That was kind of what I was out there for is to help the team win on the power play. So for me, it was never giving away those minutes on the power play for is to help the team win on the power play so for me it was never giving away those minutes on the power play trying to help my team win games and and yeah essentially not not missing not missing too many games explain to me what's happening here I'm gonna put on the screen here Tom Wilson

and his face is all busted up because he had two goals and of course just a puck hit him in the face because that's how it happens. So let's put up for Keith the video of Tom and his swollen face. I'm going to start by asking you about your face. You take a puck to the face, go to the room. What goes into that decision to tough it out and come back in the game? Yeah, it's my first time seeing it on the screen. It doesn't look so hot here. But you know what?

I think, you know, my dad always told me, if you're good to play, you play. So went to the room, got checked out, and felt good enough to get back out there. And you know, it's a team sport, and just boys' reality got it done. If you're not watching, that sniffling there evidently was caused by the softball that man had in his left cheek. His face doesn't work right and Keith is smiling as he looks at his swollen face.

It's also cold in there. Yeah and it's also cold which by the way reduces inflammation. The cold is good for the swelling that he has. What is happening there? Like what's wrong with you people? He might have he might have broken a sinus or something there too the way he was did the way he was sniffling But I had a similar situation. I got hit in the face broke my upper jaw I lost like nine teeth or something like that and It came to the rink the next day and Bobby or you know arguably the greatest Defenseman to ever play just happened to be in the locker room

And he looked at me and I couldn't talk as my wire my multiswired he looked at me and shook his head he was like. If you can skate you can play and I was like all right well now I'm definitely playing tonight. There was no doubt with all the

yours kind of calling you all but just you know what those older guys went through to put the league where it is now so you can't you can't let anyone down. You were so close to a thousand consecutive games. What happened? What's the injury that got you?

There wasn't an injury. I was healthy scratched. Oh, what? Yeah, it was my play. I was playing like absolute crap. So I deserved it. It was one of those seasons. What happened if you get skate you can play? I wasn't even sure I was gonna play and was fined. Well, yeah, no one told the coach that. So yeah, for me it was just, you know, I took it like a man, I deserved it.

You know, if I was playing well, I'm sure they would have played me. So it's, that's something that I, and I'm sure it could have happened many a times during my career, but a lot of the coaches kind of respected what I was doing and what I was trying to get to. And yeah, it just had to come to an end at some point. All right, enough of the career retrospective.

You love the Rangers, you love the Panthers. How do you feel about the fact that the Rangers have to blow it up because of what the Panthers did to them? Yeah, it's tough. I think everyone, you look at all these teams around the league, you look what Boston did over over the summer Just getting bigger on the back end for you know Trying to set them self up to you know

Probably be playing Florida because you look what Florida's done the last two years of just beating teams down in the playoffs They're not the biggest team in the league, but they play hard. They finish checks You know, they're bringing four lines at you every single game. There's zero time to make a play when you're playing against them. So I think with the Rangers as well there, even though Jacob Trubbe is a big,

big, strong, tough defenseman, I think that they just needed to go in a different direction. I'm interested in to see what Chris Dury has up his sleeve, a smart guy who's done amazing things in this league and Yeah, I think they're gonna have a big splash because at the end of the day everyone knows that you know the cup especially in the East to the cup runs through South Florida. Oh You love hearing that Roy you didn't you were too busy talking to me

And you didn't even hear what he said the man who is the face and voice the swollen face of broken-jaw hockey says the cup runs to sunrise your goddamn right it does you didn't even hear him you can't get in here this late when it's a ridiculous sentence it's an asinine sentence the man just said it's ridiculous here it's an asinine thing to say That's right, Canada. It comes through the cruise ship port of Roy's happiness Right here it makes Roy's ice skate with delight on a cruise ship to a land that he does not know because he doesn't pay any Attention to the cruises. He goes on we go out to Jessica now. She's in the other room We get some body repair around here attention to the cruises he goes on. We go out to Jessica now, she's in the other room. We get some body repair around here, Keith, and everyone's complaining about how much

it hurts, and I keep telling them that there's healing in the hurt, that on the other side of pain, your body will feel better. Jessica, what do you have for Keith Yandle? Oh, I'm Keith. I'm so tough. I'm a hockey player. Well, Keith, have you ever been mashed before? Have you ever had Genesis's toe in your ass, Keith? Yeah. Actually, in Florida, there's one of the trainers' names is Timmy.

We call him Mr. Miyagi. He's like, he's got this strong, he's got metal thumbs, this guy. He would stick his thumb in your armpit or where you know, where you had it and, you know, close to your rear end. So, yeah, there's. Where does he put his nose?

I would have rathered his toes. This guy had hands like a Greek god. So it was, but I have had that before, too. I've never seen the walker, you know, somebody being held up by the walker, too. So that's the. My hamster, a's a good one. That's my hamster, Keith, she's inside my hammy. The hammys feed the wolf.

Hell yeah. He's right, yeah. I like that. I'm stealing that. Are you getting paid to do this or are you? Do you have any hockey questions for Keith? Jessica, are you just going gonna have questions about mashing? I have a question. You're from Boston, right? Keith, what are your thoughts on Bill Belichick

potentially being the head coach of the North Carolina Tar Heels? Excellent. Yes. Yes. Well, yeah, you see my Patriots helmet right here. Yeah. I actually can't see anything right now. She just guessed. At the end of the day, it seems like a play that he's trying to help out his son, right? That's everything that I've heard that his son Stephen's going to take over the job. And as a father of two, I am all for setting up the next generation of your family and good for him. I mean, obviously the man still wants to coach. I figured he'd

still be in the NFL if you, if he wanted to, but hey, why not go down to Chapel Hill? What his recruiting pitch work on you if he walked into the room that you were in with your kids and was like, Hey, come play for me. Here's all my Super Bowl rings. I couldn't even get into college, so that's why luckily in hockey we have major journey. You can go play, you can go play up in Canada and bypass going to I couldn't even get into college so that's why luckily in hockey we have major jury you can go play you can go play up in Canada and bypass going to school so for me I would have taken his phone call.

That's a spot right there Genesis. Yeah kind of like how you know some Ivy League schools used to call me and my dad would just hang up on him like he got the wrong number. Really? Yeah funny story Brown called me and my dad said the only Brown that kid will be seeing is in his underwear. Oh wow! Wait a minute so what wait a minute so explain to me how these phone calls would go and how a young Keith would absorb these phone calls nearby? Well I knew I knew I knew

what my GPA was I knew I was not getting into an Ivy League school and my dad's a straight shooter. I didn't want to lead anyone in the wrong direction and kind of just saving everybody a little bit of time. So I applaud him for doing it. Keith, I want to get back to the New York Rangers and how they handled the Jacob Trubit trade and they really wanted to get rid of this guy. Have you ever seen an organization just want to dump somebody like that? Yeah. I think it happens, you know, more than, more than people realize. Uh, you know, there's, there's times, um, you know, in,

in everyone's career where a team's, you know, looking to go in the next direction. And even though he's the captain of the team, he's been a great player for them. Um, you know, I know Jacob, he's a great guy. He's great a great player for them. I know Jacob, he's a great guy. He's great around the community. Ton of charity work, just an all around good American boy. So I'm sure it was a hard decision, but at the end of the day, it's a business. And especially in New York when it's a win now mentality.

And even though they haven't won it in a while, it's every year, their main goal is to win the Stanley Cup. So I think for that the way they handled it, maybe the news getting out in the media might have hurt a little bit. But I was told that that was leaked from not the Rangers side. So this all happens during the course of anyone's career. If Jacob Truby was making five or six million bucks, you know, we wouldn't be talking about,

he'd still be a New York Ranger, but that is captain. It's pretty messy though, with the trading of a captain though, right? No, like the honor of all that stuff in hockey is supposed to mean more than it does in all the other sports. Like it's an unusual story to have a captain traded. Hockey likes to march around in the bravado of, we're led by our toughest man. other sports. Like it's a it's an unusual story to have a captain traded hockey

likes to march around in the bravado of we're led by our toughest man. Yeah I agree with that but I think I think Truba said it as well it's kind of a badge of honor as the captain of the Rangers to get traded because it happened to you know two great Americans before him with Ryan Callahan and Ryan McDonough so he's just kind of I think following in those footsteps maybe of just, you know, signing a nice big contract and then getting traded and going elsewhere. But, you know, like those other guys,

like Ryan Callahan and Ryan McDonough, those guys won Stanley Cups after leaving New York. So I hope nothing but the best for Jacob. Look, I know I'm the last person that should be talking about toughness because I'm currently dressed as the witch from Wicked, but we're complimenting all of these hockey guys for their toughness because of swollen faces and stuff.

And I believe the video team has an image of me after I got my wisdom teeth out. And it looks exactly the same way as any of these hockey players. And I wasn't complaining guys, when my face looked like this. So I don't think we need to worry about it. They pulled the sides of my face.

You just look like a fat kid. What the? Wow! You just look like a fat young man. You don't look injured there. You look like you're about to blow a bubble. Do I have this wrong? That's swelling in my face. I thought that was McLovin.

I thought that was McLovin. It does look like McLovin. It does look like McLovin. Those glasses were rough, man. I thought it was Ben Platt. Very young. Oh man, another one. Can you guys walk me through please because I don't want to get carried away with this Keith, but the Panthers are again the best. The Panthers are having already done it. Stanley Cup goes through Sunrise Dan. I know they're the defending champions, but they're playing in a way this season

that would suggest that there's been no regression. I would expect just hockey to happen and there to be a regression because doing that for this many months of excellence is really hard. I would think that there would be some regression there. Yeah, going to the finals back to back years is no joke, but yeah, I still live down here, I still see those guys quite a bit and

they're just a hungry group. I just really think that they're not satisfied with winning one Stanley Cup. I think they know they have something special. I think when you're playing in this league, it doesn't happen to everybody. You don't get that opportunity all the time. I think when you're playing in this league, it doesn't happen to everybody. You don't get that opportunity all the time. And I think that these guys really are taking full advantage of what they have. They've got one of the best goalies in the league, Sasha Barkov.

Probably in my mind, he's the number one all-around player in the league. Matthew Kachaka, a guy that can lead from in the locker room and lead on the ice, just a great acquisition by them. Aaron Eklat, a kid that's been here forever. And then, it's just kind of one of those things. I think the biggest thing we'll see is this year, they have a ton of guys that are playing in the four nations tournament,

representing Finland, Sweden, US and Canada. So I think after that tournament, maybe a week or two after that, we'll see how they're feeling fatigue-wise. But I think that'll be a big test for them is getting through that tournament, keeping guys healthy and going on another run because at the end of the day,

they're built for another big run. Keith, we've established you're a tough guy. I think I'm known to some as the tough guy of this office, but one of the places that I get criticized, and I feel like we have this in common, I was told you're a big Bravo boy. You like the Vanderpumps, you like the Housewives, you like the below deck.

What's your poison? What's your go-to? Walk me through a week of Bravo consumption. Look at how happy he was that you asked him about this. I love that. Now we're talking. You said the cup comes through South Florida. So did Bravo Fest a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if you made time for that.

I know. Yeah. I was out of town, unfortunately. Shame, shame. But my favorite all-time reality, our Bravo show, right now it's probably below deck which one sailing yacht down under Classic med when I'm not a big sailing yacht Really? Yeah captain glides are big too soft and Gary's a bit problematic if we're gonna be honest there and Daisy I don't get it every season everyone's fighting over get over Daisy. I'm just I don't understand. Who's your captain?

I don't see a chase who we're dying Jase there captain I like Sandy say I like Sandy. I like Sandy. She's old school I used to see her quite a bit down in Fort Lauderdale just got married Did you got a wedding any chance you made it to that? No, I got invited but I was out of town Okay, obviously he's not of the pedigree. What's the matter with you idiots? They would never invite. It's like me falling for him getting into Brown.

Come on. He's no Kate Chastain. Get it, Keith. No. Yeah. I like Kate. Kate's good. Yeah, all the shows are great.

It's just something that you can put it on, shut your brain off, and probably feel better about yourself at the end of the day. Keith, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate the time. I do want to know the story before you get out of here. The Panthers bought out the last two years of your contract, that ending. What are the parts of that that people need to know

that they don't know because you wish to give us information no one else has? Not much. It was just kind of, Bill Zito came in, had a new, you know, kind of vision of where the team was going. You know, kind of talked with them and thought it would be best decision. You know, that's the good thing when you get older, you have, you know, you have no movement clause in your, in your contract.

So your, your only, only thing that they can do really is buy you out. So no hard feelings what happened. Obviously what they've done is worked. They've been a wagon since I've left. So it's one of those things where you wish nothing but that, because I played with a lot of the guys down here and a lot of great people in that room. So, you know, still a fan of the team,

still love being around here and rooting them on. I love, this is David Sampson, a former executive of a team and I've had to have those conversations. We really did need an introduction. I never met him. I know, but we could tell. I've never met him. He could tell from your voice

that you're the face and voice of corporate greed. Go ahead. This is David, David, this is Keith. Go ahead, Stu. He was also on Survivor, David, David, this is Keith. Go ahead. He was also on Survivor, Keith, if you watched Survivor. I love watch what happens live as well. Happy to talk about that with you.

But I really just want to know when they come to you for a buyout and then you see them go on this unbelievable run, I love that you're telling us that you're all good and it's all good, but I had players who would say that, but they didn't really mean it because they wanted to be a part of it. They felt badly about it.

And then when the team goes on to be successful, they're, you know. You're accusing him of being a liar. No, not a liar. I'm saying the good thing is, I wouldn't have been there anyways. My contract would have been up for the last two years. So I would have missed out on those two years anyways.

My body was done playing anyways, long time, 16 years, the long years. So I would have missed out on those two years anyways. My body was done playing anyways, long time, 16 years, a long time. So I don't think I would have resigned for two more years there. So that probably helps a little bit where knowing that maybe if they had wanted the year I was supposed to be there, then it would have been a little bit of more,

tough pill to swallow. But like I said, like the trainers there, the players that are still here that I played with, you know, I love those guys. You know, a lot of guys in the management, the scouts, you know, so I'm being 100% honest. No, that's great. Being the Ironman.

It's hard. Yeah, it's a difficult thing. Keith, I understand that you are, we have a lot in common, okay? You're a hockey player, you're a tough guy. I'm a tough guy. I played lacrosse, you're in the media, I understand that you are, we have a lot in common, okay? You're a hockey player, you're a tough guy, I'm a tough guy, I play lacrosse, you're in the media, I'm in the media, you love golf, I love golf. I understand that you play a Grove 23, which is Jordan's private course. I also play a Grove 23. I'm thinking me and you play around

there. What do you think? 100% whenever you want. I'm around, I got nothing. Thank you, hundred percent when i want that good talking to you keep the pretty not gonna be out of town i appreciate your time i it is gross what stood out does their playing all just me uses the show he's on to golf with so sports iron man thank you keep appreciate the time are couple of years stories that i wanted to see in the course are a couple of them from football uh... one uh... condolences and uh... heart uh... felt sorrow on behalf of randy moss because of having

uh... both uh... the reported liver cancer and being outed on health stuff because he didn't exactly get to choose the way that that news was disclosed he was hoping that that would be something that he could do privately. I thought he was going to be able to have his privacy respected as he left the ESPN for a while with that, but evidently a teammate tweeted it out and the same thing that Kirk Schilling did to Tim Wakefield's family is what happened here. It's really so when Randy Moss took a leave, you remember how it was presented to the public. It was presented that he's taken a leave for personal health concerns.

And then there was a tweet about liver cancer and it forced Randy, in my opinion, to make the statement the same way the Wakefield family had to make a statement after what Kirk Schilling did. It's not a pleasant situation. I do not believe that privacy these days is something that can actually be kept. It's very hard if you're a famous person. But the other football story that I wanted to get to, and it's really hard to hear that, right?

I will always associate the name with Randy Moss with youth and vitality. It's sort of the first place that I go. So that never gets old. That is never mortal. When I associate that name, I don't associate it with mortality. Quite the opposite.

If we're gonna be just saying things, Ryan Sandberg also has cancer again. So I wanna just say it's not just football, it's baseball, it's Hall of Famers, it's the world getting in the way of our fantasy. But you associate that name, Randy Moss's name, with all due respect to Ryan Sandberg, to just superior athleticism, doing things that we have never seen on a football field, and to see a man, to see an athlete, anyone be brought to their

knees, someone that you've seen only at their greatest, only at the height of their powers, to see a man brought to his knees like he is today is hard to say, I'm a dad. I don't want to eulogize him, I don't want to make it that dire, but I hear liver cancer and I recoil with a horror and a fear just because there are a couple of cancers, pancreatic among them, that you just don't want to hear

about because of the aggressiveness of them, and so that is one of them I don't want to hear about. The other thing that I wanted to talk about that Jessica started to bring up there that I really am having a difficult time finding anything in the way of precedent for in the history of my coverage of sports. The greatest football coach by consensus in the history of the sport is available and I can't believe the number of people arguing about whether he can do a college job correctly or not. The number of people yelling and screaming about the idea of Bill

Belichick might be the greatest football coach ever, but if you allow him to coach North Carolina, he's gonna screw it up and that he's coming in with his own recruiting staff and his own coaching staff, they're going to be different. He's got different ideas for how to do this in his early 70s and there are a whole lot of people arguing about whether he can do that job successfully. I don't have an analogy I can give you in the hypothetical that would feel quite as real as the one that I'm presented with which is how is this happening this way? This man can clearly

lead and coach. You're telling me he can't do it at a college program because it's changed too much in college that a pro can't do it at ungoverned now professionalized second tier college football. But Dan the game changed so much. It's a different job. It changed so much that Nick Saban decided to get out. He was at the top of the sport and he's like, hey, I'm out. I don't want to deal with this and there's age bias.

Of course, there's the question of is he doing it for his son and there's a question of whether or not it's because of Tom Brady that he was so good. Like, was Phil Jackson the greatest coach ever, or was it Jordan and then Brian? So there's a myriad reasons, Dan. And there's the question of who wants to hire him from North Carolina and who doesn't? Because it seems evident from the reporting

that there's a very potentially rogue coaching search happening. There's a ton of disagreement among the people in charge about what to do and reporting that this has been an extremely clumsy hiring process. And so I think that it's maybe a university dysfunction that's being leaked into the public right now. So we don't really know exactly what is going on. The part that I am baffled by is, and I just simply couldn't have foreseen

in whatever it is that you made of the hypotheticals pre-pandemic. If I had told you five years ago, hey, Bill Belichick's gonna be available and North Carolina, there's gonna be a giant argument about whether he should go there. You'd be like, what are you talking about? And the Falcons already passed on him.

We already did the thing in college football where the Patriots coach with the Super Bowl ring comes in and everyone's like, oh my God, he's gonna be a genius. And Charlie Weiss didn't work out. We've already done this in college football and it didn't work. I think there's a...

Charlie Weiss, who looks like the lower half of his body was sewn together Backwards does not get to be built Belichick under any of the circumstances that you provide as hypotheticals Not a good reason and and what is COVID have to do with this that before? COVID I because COVID changed all of what college football was because the players started asking for money and then all of a sudden Everything collapsed about amateurism like the entire structure of everything of the corporate greed that appeared during the pandemic that the players wanted the money everything in college football collapsed and changed

in a way and changed so much that it now ostracizes bill Belichick. It makes him more popular actually it's the opposite analysis bill Belichick knows how to run a professional program and colleges are professional programs now. Well, no, he got fired because he didn't know how to run a professional program. That's the aspect of it that I think we're all ignoring here. He got fired because when you're with someone for that long,

it doesn't end well and the owner wins every time. It's also the ACC. Because they were losing though. And there was no Brady. That's a good point Billy. I feel like it's a decent point to say that five years ago none of us could have arrived at imagining a scenario where we are today, which is, hey Belichick's available, North Carolina's fans aren't sure if they want him. No one's going to convince me that Bill Belichick can't beat SMU. Out of all the scenarios I couldn't have imagined five years ago, this one's not top of the

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