The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Happy Birthday Ron Magill!

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

We are celebrating Ron Magill's upcoming 65th birthday today! We kick it off with an episode of Tony Tunite where Ron and Tony visit the world-famous Arbetter's Hot Dogs to discuss Ron's legendary career. Then, Ron joins the show to discuss turning 65, whether or not sharks are death machines, and how he ruined the chupacabra myth. Plus, Ron is fired up about the Cyclones after last night's massive comeback win and counters Billy's criticisms from earlier with compliments to management for the team they've put together. Then, we cap off the hour with a discussion of the Lakers' strong defensive metrics with LeBron James and Luka Doncic so far and Anthony Davis's new prank show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dan LeBBetters, baby. Tony! Three point Tony, man! How you doing? Good to see you, man. This is hollow ground. It is hollow ground.

Your name is on the wall. Well, you know what? Did you pay for it? I spent a lot of time here, man. High school days, this was the stopping grounds. We'd come in here and we'd rag on the Columbus guys. Where'd you go to high school? Miami Palmetto.

Palmetto, okay. So we're already bitter rivals from the beginning because I'm a killing guy. Oh, big cat trope. I'll have you say that I won it every year that I went to school. Really? I didn't win it once. The reason why, Tim Hardaway Jr.

Stopped me every single time. That's right. Can you take us back to the beginning? I was born and raised in New York City. My father was Cuban. My mother from Colombian descent. My first language was Spanish and I purposely forgot Spanish. I was lucky. Really? Yeah, yeah, I purposely forgot it because I just

thought that was like a bad label for me because it gave people a reason to make fun of me. I never played a sport in my life, okay? It wasn't until in high school that a coach put me out of the hallway and said, hey, Ron, you're going to play basketball. I laughed at him and said, have you seen me walk? I mean come on it's ridiculous and we went to the tryouts you know you look through the tryouts and then they'll pin up the people who make the team on the list and I go up there and then I see my name on the list I see these guys who didn't make it and then I'm ridiculed even more. You just got there because you're tall. I got there because I was tall you know and and and I went to the coach and said coach you're

killing me I don't even want to be on this team it's just making things worse for me I don't figure what he told me coach you're killing me. I don't even wanna be on this team. It's just making things worse for me. I don't forget what he told me. He said, at the time, because I was so tall, he said, Ron, you can't coach height. That's true. You still can't by the way. I'm gonna take the time and invest in you.

And that coach, he's probably the single most important person in my life, outside of my immediate family. How did you get from the trajectory of good at school, playing sports, giving you the confidence in sports, left turn animals. Like, where did that come from? Animals were the focus from the very beginning. The left turn was sports, was getting to be accepted into society.

When I was a kid, there was one show, Utah of Omaha's Wild Kingdom. And there were two co-hosts in that show. There was a guy named Marlon Perkins and another guy named Jim Fowler. Jim was the guy who did the crazy stuff. I mean, Jim was jumping out of helicopters on top of a caribou. He was rappelling down mountains, grabbing condors with one hand.

I saw the guy catch a jaguar in the Amazon with a throw net. I'm like, that's what I want to do. I want to be that guy. And when you have a job, if you love doing what you do, you're really not going to work. And I mean, that's the reason why I've been at the zoo for over 44 years, is because, dude, I, you know, when you get paid to do things that people pay to do, you know, I just got back from two weeks in Africa.

You know? Yeah, an incredible trip. I mean, I've traveled around the world. So you go from working with other animals and a capacity that lands you on Salahugante with Don Francisco. It's true. I was literally at the zoo as a zookeeper,

walking in the- Normal day. The normal day, normal day and I was doing I think a presentation about an animal and this guy Don Francisco who I don't know who I have no clue who he is right he comes up to me and it's kind of a heavy accent he goes I would like you to be a macho. Okay. Watch your shout. I'm a choco sable gigante out of Chile and I'd like you to be a macho. I go okay it's in English right? He goes no no in Spanish. He goes, I'm going to show you how to make a giant sable out of chili. And I'd like you to be on my show. I go, okay, it's in English, right? He goes, no, no, in Spanish. I go, well, I don't really speak a lot of Spanish. He goes, no, no, I teach you.

And nobody in your family spoke Spanish? My father and my mother always spoke Spanish. So I heard it. Okay. But I didn't speak it. I literally put it in the back burner. And he goes, I'll teach you. I had no idea what this show was.

I got home, I told my parents, I said, listen, this guy, Don Francisco, Don Francisco? It's like the biggest thing on the planet. This guy is like the number one Hispanic television star in the world. And I'm like, what? So he invites me on the show.

I don't even remember, I try to do some research on the show. There was a whole lot of internet and stuff back then. And the thing comes across to me like a combination of let's make a deal, the Gong Show, Oprah, Phil Donahue, and some other crap all put together in one, three hours of insanity. Insanity, okay?

There's a bunch of girls out there that are doing the coochie coochie dance. And there's stuff going on in the show that would never pass on American television. You got women that are really very... Scantily clad. So it was just one of those things where I'm like, oh my gosh.

But that guy became the greatest mentor I've ever had when it comes to television, when it comes to the public. And he taught me something that's so very important, that is never take yourself too seriously. And there's so many of us, even in my profession, especially in my profession, where they get all hung up on things. You know, one of the things I've learned on Dan's show is that, man, you got to learn to laugh at yourself, man.

Because if you don't laugh at yourself, you're not enjoying life. And Don Francisco told me that. He goes, look at me, Ron. Every Saturday I go out there and I make a total jackass out of myself. And it's true, he did, he put on these goofy hands, he did these stupid things.

He looked like an idiot, but he was making people happy. He always wanted me to kiss the models. He had the models come over here, not on the seat of the room, not on the seat. I go, no, no, Ron. I always showed my ring. I said, no, no, no. I'm married. I'm married, married.

I'm married, I can't do it. And that was part of the shtick. How did you, again, not speaking Spanish, go to an all Spanish show? He would talk to me and wait for me to screw up. I would say a word, I would never say it right. He goes, what? And that became part of the shtick of the show.

Right. Here it is, ladies and gentlemen, Ron Magill. How are you, Don Francisco? How are we, Ron? Please sit down. In what country in the world can you find flamingos and penguins in the same place? Chile, Galapagos, and South Africa. Chile, in Chile, in your country?

Chile doesn't exist. Chile is when it's cold. I live in Chile. I want to ask you something. One day, I can come to this show and you just talk to me about animals and not about my Spanish, please. I've been fighting them fight for 25 years.

30 years! And the story goes on. 30 years! And still, remember when you met me, I knew two words, yes and no. And look how I'm not inviting you back. The stick of the show is to make fun of your Spanish. And he would go afterwards, he'd go in his dress room, he goes, I thought, he goes, that's what we wanna do. We wanna have that kind of rapport back and forth.

You've been recognized in a lot of places. What's the most special place to you that you've been recognized? For me, I guess the most special place is Cuba. The homeland of my father, I guess the most special place is Cuba. The homeland of my father. I went back there doing some conservation work against the backlash of county officials who gave me all kinds of shit about it. And I was very thankful to a Herald columnist who defended me.

Fabiola Santiago defended me. She said he's going there for conservation. Conservation is, you know, the animals in Cuba are not Democrats, Republicans, or Communists. They're part of the heritage of all of us. Anyway, to make a long story short, I'll never forget, I go into Little Havana, I'm walking down the streets of Little Havana, people are yelling my name, Tony, from the balconies. Romagin! Romagin! People are coming believe they're eating Romallin! Paquete. They got this whole business over there, Tony, where they had these thumb drives. And these guys are like little blockbuster video stores, little incognito in the corners, where they had the thumb drives, where these people are like pirating the show. They get it to these guys on the film, and then they rent out the thumb drives and people watch so many of them every

Saturday part of La Paquete. It's all over Cuba. I mean, when they say the Cubans resolve, resuelve. Resuelve. Always. I mean, it's unbelievable. I look at, resuelve. Resuelve. Resuelve. Always. I mean, it's unbelievable. I look at the cars. I went in the old cars, I'm going, oh my god, that's beautiful, classic, what happened? Let me look at the engine. I open up the hood.

It's like a Russian. It's like a lawnmower engine. Exactly. Put together with rubber bands and paper clips from all kinds of different engines. These people are so ingenious in what they do. It was so rewarding to me because, I got to be honest with you, Tony,

I've never been to Cuba. And I remember my father father who had since passed away thinking he was New York. It was when I went to New York under Little Cuba, that's the way he spoke. And I went into Cuba, I realized, no, he was Cuba. I saw my father's face in every one of those faces when they came to me and said, oh yeah, hermano como esta compadre all the stuff. These are all the terms my father used to use. I said, wow, this is,

this is where my roots are. Here, Tony, they would invite me into their little bodegas and give me food and they would not take my payment. I had to throw the money at them. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, You have nothing. You have nothing. And that makes me proud of it. Makes me proud of my heritage. So that's probably the most meaningful to me now. That's the most surprising recognized ability of the solo who got the show. That guy Jim Fowler on Wild Kingdom. He became one of my biggest mentors. Wow. It's like meeting Dan. So like the same way that you have that with Jim Fowler, you're sitting there watching TV as a kid. I have that same moment where Dan,

where I'm watching him on PTI or whatever, and I'm looking at him, and then now, all these years later, we're working together, and he's one of my mentors. One of the most down to earth guys, and he's the one who taught me all this stuff, and of course, he was a huge international star. So I asked him to go down with me to Panama

to work on this Harp Eagle project, and we had to go way into the rainforest in the Dariang which is on the border of Panama and Colombia. It's not a very safe area but it's an incredible forest. A lot of people, a lot of bad people, evildoers there. So we had to take a dugout canoe for four hours down the river to get to this village of these indigenous people. I mean these people living in the forest like no electricity, no nothing. In the forest. Oh yeah, women very breasted and stuff like that. So I got the GPS to go there and Jim's with me.

After four hours, we finally get to the riverbank where the village is and the chief comes out. Guy just did it, literally a loin cloth. He's wearing nothing else but some beads. Like from a movie. From a movie, just the same thing he's doing. Comes up, he looks at me and he goes, oh my God.

You're like, and I'm not, now I'm sure I'm being punked. Now I'm sure. Where's the camera? Where's the camera here? What's going on here? And Jim looks, oh come on, I'm the one who's being punked here because Jim's the international star. And I paid this guy to do the Romaguin, who's Jim Fallow, right?

And I realize it and he goes, how do you know me? Giant Sabo. I go, Giant Sabo? Yes, you don't have electricity in the forest. How can you look? You don't have a television? You don't have anything. No, I'm going to show you.

We walk with this guy into the village. As we're walking in the village, they got a television set up there that's rigged in one way or another to a car battery with a satellite dish. And they rig it in such a way that every Saturday, it was like movie night for the entire village, Salvador Higano. Oh my God. Tony, one of the greatest rewards I've had in my career was,

they couldn't believe that I was there, because they see me on this show, and then I said, let's make a video, you guys. And when I got back, I showed it to Don, and he put it on the show. And they saw their own video. And to this day, that village is the most famous village in Panama because those are the indigenous people that were on Salahiga. Wow. And it was just, and that was, it was a great

reflection on Don Francisco too because he said, this is what my show is all about. Yeah. This is what my show is all about. And this shows you how we can connect, you know? So for me, listen, dude, I had lived such a surreal life. I say this... Really have. I'm not saying that to blow smoke. But Tony, except for you kicking my ass in basketball. But anyway, other than that, the bottom line is, if I stepped out of here and die, no one should shed a tear for me because I have lived way beyond any dream I could have ever

imagined. I've got an incredible wife, incredible kids, incredible friends. You know, I say it, I said it on the show, my favorite saying in the world is that life is not measured by the number of breaths that we take, it's measured by the number of times your breath is taken away. Breathtaking moments define the quality of your life. Thank you man, thank you so much. Hi, have me a hot dog. This is going to be f**ked. Mi gente, thank you for watching Tony Tonight. Hey there wellness warriors. If you're like me, you've given a lot of thought to how to improve your health and wellness routine this year.

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But my question to Ron is this. Stugatz! That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to, did it? We all just stared at you. It didn't land at all. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugatz! That's right, it's time for Against the Friends! And it's brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours.

Mike, kick us off. Headed out to the ice. I like the way that the Washington Capitals have bounced after this four nations break. Alexander Ovechkin with a hatty in his last game. Bounce back, they bounce back. You're happy how they bounced back? No, I liked how they bounced on that thing. Okay, alright. Yeah. Calgary Flames coming over from Canada as a road trip and honestly the Capitals are just playing really good hockey. I'm a fan of them. They're probably gonna get cursed by the President's Cup curse. It's

looking that way but I like them tonight. Not a Trump curse, the President's Cup. It's a thing. No, the Trump Cup. It was the Biden Cup. Is it no longer the Biden Cup? Does it change names? Wouldn't it? It's the President. Well it was invented under... Minus one and a half caps. Against the Spreds. Billy bring us home. I'm gonna take the Ducks plus one and a half against the Sabers. The Sabers are in last place in their conference.

Now granted they had a big win against the Rangers last game 8-2. And they would have covered against the Preds also where they won 6-4 if that was a one and a half point spread. But I'm 2-0 when I go Ducks this year, so. One and a half goal, not point, one and a half goal. No, there's points in hockey.

It's goals. And then there's minuses in the. It's a puck line. Okay, I'm sorry, bouncing on over here. Anyways, I had your back, yes and, geez Louise. Ducks fly together, I'm gonna take the Anaheim Ducks today. Plus one and a half against the Buffalo Sabres. I also like how they bounce after theim Ducks today. Plus one and a half against the Buffalo Sabres. Against the Sprats.

I like how they bounce after the all star break. Nice little performance against Boston. They're actually not that far off in the playoff standings. Yeah. I liked it better when Tony and Ron McGill were not friends. I liked it better when they were enemies

and Ron was blocking his shot. But I do like that Tony celebrated one of our most popular guests ever and it is... Happy birthday to him! I don't care! Good luck! 65 years old Ron McGill is that today is it this week? What are we celebrating? Are we celebrating you today? Greg, go ahead and pick up your thermos. Good work by you. Excellent. We were never enemies. Tony and I were never enemies.

We were competitors. I mean. Then I got old. Okay, well, yeah, you haven't played basketball in a while. Is this your birthday today? It's Friday, actually. Okay, well, happy birthday this week. Birthday week!

We will celebrate it here with you. How are you feeling your age? Are you feeling vibrant? Are you feeling decrepit? Well, I'm no longer playing basketball, which kind of sucks. But you know, listen, I wanted to stop before I ruptured an Achilles, blew out a knee, did something that would be horrible to try to recuperate from at my elderly age. Can you walk us through here, here Ron what it is that you're

most excited about coming up in your travels because I don't know how much more traveling you intend to do to foreign and exotic locales and I don't know what's left on the bucket list either. Well I'm going back to the Galapagos in May which is going to be a great trip. The Galapagos is always a great adventure. Then I'm taking that big the Galapagos in May, which is gonna be a great trip. The Galapagos is always a great adventure. Then I'm taking that big expedition to Australia in June, where we're doing the documentary with WPLG, Christie Krueger.

And then I'm taking the family to Patagonia, Chile, Argentina, the glaciers, everything out there in October. So it's a busy year. Billy, you offered very little there. Just warning, be careful in Australia, Ron, if you want to get to 66. Let me get rid of you here in a second.

What are you talking about, Billy? Birthday week's a bit much, huh, Ron? I mean, geez, Louise, you guys had a dinner the other day that you put up all these pictures and you were celebrating you today. It's not until actually Friday. Birthday, not birth week, birth month. What is this?

Guys, I prefer not to celebrate the day at all. Oh, I know. We can tell. My wife put together. And in hindsight, I'm really glad she did because some of my closest friends were there, and I didn't think all these people would travel from different corners of the place to come to this wonderful get-together we had. I felt very privileged that I had so many good friends there. So I was a great surprise, but normally I don't celebrate my birthday.

I think once you get over 40, those birthday things are done. Do you feel fortunate that your birthday landed on the 28th and not on leap day? Yeah. I missed it by half an hour, Mike. Wow. What do you do then? I was actually born on...

Well, you know, then what? I'm six or five, whatever that's going to be. Not the math. Not even close, but that's fine. He's an animal guy. Wow, Chris Cody just schooled you on math. I mean, it's not the math. That's a tough look. Ron, the largest shark ever tagged

is now off the coast of Florida. Do you care to revisit what you have said about sharks, showering them with praise when they are actually death machines? So Mike, let me ask you something. What does the fact that the largest shark that has been tagged is off the coast of Florida mean anything?

Has anybody proven that that largest shark has done any damage to anybody? No, but that's convenient because you don't know what lies beneath the surface. Like for example, in Australia, they have an abnormal amount of drownings. Criminals. And criminals.

It seems as though they're kind of like trying to skirt the law a little bit, which does not play well into the reputation, but these drownings, how do you think that ends? You know, Mike, you look at things through such a different lens all the time. You need to take the fogging off the lens.

Australia is an incredible country. It's a great country. It's got phenomenal wildlife. Yes, seven out of every 10 snakes there are deadly, but how many people come across them? Ron, if you're in chest high water off the coast of North Florida, and I say, Ron, the largest great white shark ever tagged

is just a couple of yards away from you, what are you doing? I'm probably gonna get out of the water. The defense rest. Really? Ron, I saw a story, I saw a story of Turks and Caicos where a tourist like last week had her hands bitten off because she tried to take a picture with a shark

in like very shallow water. Well, what does that reflect on, you know, I'm so sorry she lost her hands, but listen, common sense just isn't common anymore. And I don't know what's happening in this world. And I think a lot of this stuff is being driven by the stupid social media. Don't get me started in the social media with these people putting their backs to Alligator to take selfie, trying to pet a freaking bison in Yellowstone. I'm tired of stupid. You can't fix stupid. The way you fix stupid is you get rid of it. And some of

the animals are doing it for us. So the people have it coming is what you're saying. Darwin's hand. Stupidness has its pitfalls. A woman lost both her hands to a shark? Yeah. But if that was a tuna, she'd have two hands because sharks are dangerous. The problem here is the shark people, not the people. How do you lose both hands? I feel like if there's a shark,

I'm keeping my hands separate. You're not getting both of these things. Well, if you hold the phone the way Greg does. If you're just trying to take a picture of the shark, and then the shark eats both your hands and the phone. There's an age where the tipping point is to take a photo, you use both hands. You use both hands to also shine a light on your menu.

This is a classic example of how social media has driven people to stupidity. Ron, I have a question. If you remember something several years ago, our makeup artist revealed to me this morning that she met you at a Miami sort of like children's animal festival several decades ago and asked you if the chupacabra was real.

And you gave her an assurance that no, it was in fact not real. Do you remember that? I do remember that. You know, I became kind of a really bad guy there for a while because back in the Chupacabra, I wish you wouldn't be phrasing things like several decades ago. It makes me sound like a fossil. But having said that, you know, when the Chupacabra craze started, it was all fun and games. And then all of a sudden people started having rifles on their front porch and in the front of their

house and they were ready to shoot the Chupacabra, and that's when it became dangerous. Listen, you know, we got the skunk ape, we got Bigfoot, none of these things have ever been accused of harming anything. We had the chupacabra that was now killing livestock. It was killing animals. It was sucking the blood and sucking the organs out. People were afraid, and that was stupid.

And this was all just playing on this fictional character that came up. I said, hey, listen, don't you guys find it coincidental that Chupacabra's only found in Hispanic neighborhoods? Is it a racist animal? Why is it only going to the Hispanic neighborhoods? Why isn't it found anywhere else? And where's the proof of this stuff?

And then when I finally proved it, I said, listen, you know what? The next animal that the Chupacabra kills, that you guys say, oh, look at the Chupacabra did here. It sucked all its blood out, took all its organs out. I want to take that animal live on television. We brought it on the new news live. We cut it open at Jackson Memorial Hospital doing an e-cropsy and guess what?

It was full of blood. It was full of its organs. And it showed that the two little bites on its neck were not a vampire, but a dog that had bitten it and strangled it and killed it that way because that's what dogs do when they become feral. And then all of a sudden, all the people that were making money off of selling the bumper stickers

about the Chupacabra and selling the t-shirts of the Chupacabra and the radio stations that had all the lyrics and sticks going on, all of a sudden started losing all of their little clicks and attention because the Chupacabra was proven to be false. That's a great story. You eradicated the myth of the Chupacabra personally.

I did, and I'm proud of it. That's unbelievable. How am I just learning this now that Ron McGill proved forevermore, ruined the myth of the chupacabra, ruined it by going to a hospital and providing proof. Live on the 12 o'clock news, and one of the reporters got sick, vomited when we cut open the goat

and she saw the blood and the guts come out. That's great television, great television, Ron. It was great television, it was great television, great television, Ron. It was great television. It was great television, but it proved to these bulls who were all caught up in this, oh my God. I remember when I first went out there, the police were out there, the news stations were out there and I said, oh no, no, this is dog.

These are all dog tracks. And then, you know, una abuela, she was over there on her porch. She goes, no, no, no. Era grande con los ojos rojos y tiene fuego y las alas grandes. And all the cameras went right to her No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, noled for her about, oh my God, it had the right eyes and the big wings and I saw it fly away myself with my own two eyes. It exists. So who's not gonna believe Grandma Abuelita, okay?

Instead of the goof Ron McGill from the zoo who's trying to put some common sense into people. But no, common sense doesn't sell bumper stickers. It doesn't sell fear. It doesn't sell t-shirts. So that's what they went with. That's the society we live in today. That's right, Dan. That's right, Close your eyes and shake your head. That's

To that crap Yeah related to the Chupacabra if If you had to bet on one of these mythical creatures that have been rumored to be in existence like Nessie Bigfoot, yeah the Yeti, the Chupacabra, which do you think has the most compelling evidence and if you had to bet on being the most real? Yeah it would have to be something in the ocean because we have not been able to explore the ocean. I mean you know we've done some some minor exploration but when you think about the

capacity the size of the ocean, the depth of the ocean, places that we have not been able to go, I wouldn't be surprised for some mythical beast, if you wanna quote unquote, phase out. Megalodon? Existing down, yeah, existing down that low. The crowd.

But you know, in a place that still has yet to be, listen, we know less about the ocean than we know about the moon, guys. So in the ocean, I would have a much broader open mindedness regarding, you know, a mythical creature that could possibly still exist there Ron you've been to Africa. How many times 50 55 54? Okay, you know all about Safari tours the legality of it the responsibility of it What's your reaction to this headline? New Jersey man sues safari tour operator after rampaging hippo killed his wife in Africa Horrifically tragic I feel terrible for that person

But anyone who goes to Africa at least any responsible tour operator makes it very clear you sign a waiver that says listen You're going in with dangerous animal again guys. This is not the the safari ride at Disney You know Dan knows that well Dan's been next to me You're going in with dangerous animals. Again, guys, this is not the safari ride at Disney. You know, Dan knows that, well, Dan's been next to me, well, these animals come right next to us. If you don't act properly, if you get charged, these are things that can happen.

Now, Dan's probably thinking back, hey, Ron, why didn't you tell me this could have happened back then? I did tell you that could happen, probably not gonna happen, but it's a risk we take. It's a risk we take when we get in our car every day we drive to work.

How many people are getting killed every day on the road in car wrecks? Guys, this is- It's not a risk that I'm gonna be driving in my car and day we drive to work. How many people are getting killed every day on the road in car wrecks? Guys. It's not a risk that I'm gonna be driving in my car and get hit by a buffalo. That's not a risk. Dan. I don't have that risk here.

Sounds like Ron said she had it coming also. That's also. I did not say she had it coming. You're an animal apologist. Like all these animals are out here murdering people and you're finding excuses why it's okay for all of them. The Chupacabra was fine. The sharks biting people, they deserve it.

Dan, why did you attack them? Animals are defending themselves This is why it's okay for all of the Chupacabra was fine. The sharks biting people, they deserve it. Women should be warned. Animals are defending themselves and defending their turkeys. Not sharks. The people would stop threatening them. Sharks are invading our land. Hippo does what a hippo does. Ever heard of land sharks?

Wow, Billy. Fins up. Wow, Billy. Ron, which animal would you like to kill you? We've done this, I think, with them. If it had to be any animal, it would probably be one of the big cats, a tiger or lion, because it just bites you in the neck

and it's over very quickly. Is that over quickly? Listen, let's talk about something better. Hey, hey, hey, Mike, how about those cyclones, brother? Yeah! How about those cyclones? You saw, did you watch yesterday? I did not watch yesterday.

We got a dub, we won! We beat the defending champ charges. Those guys rock. Listen, you did a great job in that draft, brother. Those guys came back. They took it all down. The Cyclones are for real this year. You're an Iñaki guy, huh?

How about Iñaki, number 69 in the program, but not 69 in your hearts? Yeah, number one. It's fantastic to watch these guys play, because finally they're playing some offense. Instead of this, you know, volley back and forth, wait for somebody to make a stupid mistake, these guys are starting to take chances. They're going in at it. I love it, man, it was great. Ron, I want to play a game with you called animal cruelty or funny. We're at a horse ranch here and there's a human

wearing a horse head and he takes it off and the horse gets really scared and runs away The horse thinks he's talking to a horse and then the human takes off the mask and then the horse Hey, you're not a horse Horrifying practical joke that animal cruelty or funny. I'm gonna lean towards cruelty Dumb horse, that's a unicorn head that horse should know the horse isn't distress. It's sad comedy. That's a dumb horse, that's a unicorn head. That horse should know it was fake. The horse is in distress, it's sad. So that's cruel. It is, it got a little stress there and anytime you stress out an animal for the sake of humor, I call that animal cruelty.

See, once again, I was defending animals. How about this video here of some birds, you tell me these birds are circling a tombstone here. Does this feel haunting to you? What's happening here? Is this the same game? Animal cruelty? No. These are turkeys that are kind of going after each other

as part of this whole. Oh, they're playing tag? That's the lamest game of tag ever. How does Harris feel about that? It's just turkeys do these things. That's not animal cruelty. That's actually kind of funny. Because that's nothing that was inspired by us.

Ron, happy birthday. It's like it's a euphemism that's actually kind of funny. Because that's nothing that was inspired by us. Ron, happy birthday. It's like it's a euphemism for the election. Thank you, good seeing you, Ron. I do enjoy Greg saying, how does Harris feel about that? I'm guessing that Harris doesn't love that his or her tombstone is being froliced on by turkeys. Right, send me that graphic man, I like that graphic. Thanks for working on that graphic, I like it.

Send it to me so I can save it for my scrapbook, thanks. Ron, first of all, happy birthday. Also, I was at the zoo the other day and I don't mean to cause trouble for you or make people not wanna go to the zoo, but I was in the aviary and there was a large bird that was on the steps going up to one of the levels in the aviary and I was with my daughters and my wife and I was walking down steps going up to one of the levels in the aviary.

I was with my daughters and my wife, and I was walking down, so I thought I'd be the brave dad that just walks past the birds, so it kinda shoes away, flies away, whatever we can go, and it pecked at me. And luckily, I didn't get hurt, because it pecked at my sock, but you have some out of control birds in that aviary.

They're just pecking at people if they try to walk by when they're on the walking you know, the walking path. What should I have done in that case? Peck back. Peck of dirt. You know, continue walking. It's not a fatal peck, probably a little startling, but I'll write a memo and address the issue

and see if we can have some kind of disciplinary action against that bird. All right, I always sit out the bird aviary. I'm like, not for me, I'm good. Ron, good seeing you. More than 150 false killer whales have washed up on the coast of the Australian island state of Tasmania. What does that mean?

None of them are expected to survive. That's usually what happens when these whales beach themselves. There's something wrong either physically with them or something in the environment. It's almost like a form of suicide in a way. And it's a tragic thing, but these beachings with whales have happened across the millennium and nobody really knows why.

A charming dismount. Thank you so much for that. Happy New Day. What's a false killer whale? Like accused but not convicted? I'll talk to you guys next week. See you later, Ron. Good seeing you, as always. I wanted to ask him about the Luka Donchich defensive metrics. You see their third in defense since the acquisition? Who had that? That doesn't seem like something that would be sustainable.

It's surprising that in this small sample it's been third. Wouldn't everyone simply assume that if Luca and LeBron James at 40 are gonna be on the court at the same time, it's gonna be very hard to find any three defenders in the world who are gonna make that a good defense. That you can't hide the oldest player in the league and everything that they did to Doncich

that made Dallas decide, among other things, though we can't have that playing defense in the final. I would say it would be impossible to hide for a game they've they've hit it for multiple games I would have thought that there's plenty of places you could attack them I wanted to ask you guys something because I'm assuming now I know defense has always done poorly in the NBA in terms of how it's measured by the novice but I'm assuming when you have Anthony Davis that you have a better chance of being good defensively than if you don't have Anthony Davis and the Lakers I think everyone can agree with

that even if they don't know anything about defense the thing I wanted to ask you about Anthony Davis is that if any of you have seen that he has a new show on Max, Anthony Davis, Foul Play, it is a prank show. About birds? It is not about birds. Are you pranking me? I am not pranking you. There is a new show that I assume.

Had to be a play off Brow something, I can't believe that. It was off of, I'm assuming, before he was traded to the Maps. I'm guessing this was all put together in some sort of production deal on the side with the Lakers. Hey Anthony Davis, you've shown very little personality

over your career, you want an entire prank show? Sure, we'll just put your name on it and then make people think that you're more famous than you actually are. In his defense, we didn't really know much about Aston Kutcher before he did his prank show. Well, the thing I wanted to ask you is, I don't feel like you can go wrong with a prank show.

I feel, if you give me a prank show, I'll watch it for nine minutes. Sure. I'll give you one prank of a chance to get me with a prank show. A prank show always works, does it not? I feel like my dad could not host a prank show. He's teaming up with impractical jokers. He is teaming up. That's part of what it is that

they're doing on Max's foul play. I've done some digging and I found perhaps a player that you could pair with LeBron and Luca to make it a good defense. Now they've been the number one scoring team and they've also had the number one defense over the last 17 games and they've been third since trading away Anthony Davis. However, there's this player, Jared Vanderbilt, who is essential to their defense because they have a defensive rating of 110.7 with him on the court, but one of 116 points without him on the court. So when he's on the court helping their defense, it certainly hides the issues that you would assume would

be there with LeBron at 40 and Luca. And he gets pranked in episode one apparently. Do you think Anthony Davis thought that the trade was part of the prank show when he found out about it? That's a good question. Is this the pilot? I only saw episode one, so I don't know if there are more. Was it good?

It was with D'Angelo Russell. I heard Cameron Brink was in it too. Yes. I heard, I mean, I just read that in the sports business journal. That is correct. I am not willing to say that Vanderbilt is the reason that they are good at defense.

I'm gonna say it's because they played Charlotte in the first game. They also played Denver. That was, well, that one was confusing to me because I saw that Jokic went like two for seven from the field and had 12 points. When Anthony Davis is supposed to be the guy that's awesome. I'm like, what the hell?

I didn't even understand that box score. I didn't. When I saw it, that is the worst game in a box score I've ever seen. Yoke each half. Like it was, it was 12 points. It was two for seven. And I'm looking through minutes trying to figure out was he hurt? Like how, how was there a game Denver played in that Yoke each only gets seven shots and misses five of them? That is the outlier though. I think part of the explanation

and why their defense has been so good is Hornets, Trailblazers, Jazz Twice. Oh, that would certainly boost that defensive rating. It should be called Anthony Davis's high brow humor. That's what I was looking for, something like that. That's pretty good actually. That's better than foul play. They got into it. Shouldn't it be low brow? Or low brow, yeah. Or anyway, just like that. That's pretty good actually. That's better than foul play. They got into it.

Shouldn't it be low brow? Or low brow, yeah. Or anyway, just low brow. It's a prank show, it's a low brow. They needed a brow. They needed a brow. Do you know how uninteresting you have to be as a sports star for the only information for Chris Cody

to have about your personality to be your single eyebrow? To play as a Laker? This is what I think of Anthony Davis. I think he will be criminally under regarded the The legacy of Anthony Davis because he had to be number two to LeBron James I think him healthy is a number one, but he got undone by what happened with organizationally with the Pelicans that has since happened to Zion and like Anthony Davis is a number one I can win a championship with Anthony Davis is my number one but because he played next to LeBron I think he'll forever be under regarded as a basketball player even though like I can make the argument that that guy is is a top 50 top 75 talent of all time he was such a star in

college though when we used to actually talk more about men's college hoops. Such a star. I don't know. He was on the Ruffles bag. He doesn't have a lot of personality though. We're stuck on the eyebrow, a single eyebrow. Maybe that's on us though. LeBron sees something.

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