The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Jonathan Zas-ho

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

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juiciest. We have not even gotten to the portion of this that allows us in 2025 to wonder whether it's okay to ever call somebody a hoe. Like we've got a hoe down, a hoe off between a couple of different stories in sports because Joanne Jennings is getting the reputation you do not want to have around the league where these paid professionals are like, this person is behaving on a football field in a way that's, we're all here professional adults. And he's behaving like a hoe. And bringing back hoe in 2025 was not something that I thought I'd appreciate in sports. It hits, right?

What we've got? We've got two ho stories. There are two of them. Because how do you arrive if you're Joanne Jennings on the reputation of last week, somebody got suspended for hitting me in the junk with his cast, suspended for a year with what was clearly criminal behavior? but now we know there's a fool out there running around talking crazy. If you would have told me back then, like obviously it looked really bad that dude got punched in the junk, all right?

But if you had told me it's because he's a hoe, we're like, oh, now it makes sense why the ball, football was so far away from the punch. Right, well, but let's check in here with Shelby Harris, okay, and it's just delightful here, right? You think of what you're watching on Sunday, and it seems, yes, that's terribly violent. And then there's just a friendly man named Shelby who will tear your head off on weekends, and he doesn't like the way that. that man is playing football. He's a hoe, and I want that known. Like, I see why he got punched in the nuts because he says some things that

you should not say to another man ever, but I don't respect it because you say that, then run behind your O line. That's some real soft shit, and I want that known. I see exactly why they punched the nuts. I'm surprised nobody punched him in the jaw yet. It is now known. Okay, it is now, no, known. Well, but this is the part of this story that I like.

I've told you guys this before. There was a rumble somewhere on the sideline, and all the 49ers run behind Trent William. Everyone in that league knows, including Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett, you were lucky to get close to that quarterback yesterday because Trent Williams still rules that sport with a documentary out called Silverback, I believe. Like, that man, everyone is afraid of that man in that sport.

And of course, Joanne Jennings, if he were to behave like a hoe, would hide behind Trent Williams. We all would. He's a ho. Bo show. So what is the lame kiffin sound that we have? Thank God that is a real documentary. Yep, from 2021.

Risky. that you have to be sure of. Thank you, Dan. I was very scared as I did it. I'm glad you did, though. Shows that you're still with it and sharp and not afraid of consequences whatsoever. You know what? My guy does not play it, it's safe. As I was on the- He will trot out Silverback when he's got 70% confidence on it,

thinking that that's okay. I shouldn't have done that. Yes, bad judgment by me. Thankfully, I got that right. I was surprised that everything there existed. Look, that's how close it was, Dan. Could have been over there. That man's story is amazing.

I believe they had to cut open his skull. He is stronger than everyone else in the sport. I was impressed by just Miles Garrett not being able to do anything with that yesterday. Miles Garrett essentially backed up the hoe comments too yesterday. Like he was a lot classier the way he said it. It was a ho sign. He's a hoe. Fosho.

Okay. Can we get to the Lane Kiffin sound or is it backstory? Okay, do we have, so what is the backstory here? This is a Mississippi podcaster that Lane is confronting because the podcaster and forgive me, I do not know this person's name. What is this person's story? It's somebody protecting the righteous identity of Mississippi, not happy with how Lane Kiffin is behaving.

So he has made some sort of comparison. This is what happens when you marry the... You can't turn a hoe into a housewife. Because a hoe don't know how to act. Ben Garrett. So Ben Garrett, thank you. We'll assign you can't turn a hoe into a housewife to you. Because a hoe don't know what to act.

Lane Kiffin, thank you, Zazlo, ever supportive. And here is, here is Lane Kiffin saying, I will not, I'm not down for your hoe. You want to walk in here and call me a hoe? You want to walk in here and call me a hoe? The rare outside interaction where the guy's like, do you want to come inside? Here's a hoe. Why don't we go inside, pal, see how that goes. Yeah, usually let's take this out.

You're right. You want to go inside. Hey, let's take this inside. See how that works. Outside is where I'll steal your kids. Here's a hoe. I can't believe. that Lane Kiven is the most gangster person

in the sport. Let's go inside. Let's take this inside. You want to take this inside? He's a hoe. Outside, I'll steal your kids. Outside the building, I'll steal your kids inside your building. I'll beat you so hard you won't have kids. He's the hoe. So multiple ho allegations this weekend.

Yeah, and I saw our guy from Ole Miss, the podcast here, the journalist. He's a hoe. I saw his. No, no, no, no, don't. He's a ho. No, Ben, no, no, no one's calling him. Is someone calling Ben Garrett the hoe? Look, everything's on the table right now. Yeah, he's not backing off, Chris Cody.

So I actually saw like a video clip from the content that he was putting out this week, and he doubled down on the ho's stuff, making his point and playing hos in different area codes to support him. You know about them hos in different area codes? I'm not comfortable with the part of your personality that has been unleashed in here, a little more comfortable than I'd like. Perhaps you do the radio edit version where you say pros. Also over the weekend, evidently, the Jags punter threatened to kill somebody.

That's a thing that happened this weekend. Have a Titans running back here reacting to the threat. Poor Titans, the only team not playing in a close game in the 1 o'clock window. The Titans just getting dragged by a Jacksonville team that may or may not be good. I don't know. Seems like the AFC is kind of flawed in every way. So any of them can come out of there. But evidently, Jacksonville's punter is crazy because he was talking about trying to kill a dude.

I don't really know why the punner did that, you know, honestly, I was just trying to play hard and he came up to me and said he was going to kill me, you know, so I don't know what made him do that. I mean, just things kind of temper, maybe temper's flared from that moment, you thought? I mean, just how did the frustrations of the game kind of boil into into that moment, you found? I don't think it was any frustration. I think it was just us playing hard and me and the other guy was just playing hard. and I think he just wanted to something to say, honestly, I have no idea. It might have been

a couple of players before and I made a block on him maybe I don't know what made him want to do that, but yeah, that was surprising to me. I never seen nothing like that before. I don't know why it's so funny to me. He's so pleasant. No, it's funny because he's charmingly

befuddled. Like, we're asking a kind human being who does a very violent thing for a living. talking to him about, like, what happened out there with the punter? He's like, I don't know the guy was getting crazy. He threatened to kill me. I don't know why he threatened to kill me.

Dan, he was just playing hard, and then someone wanted to kill him. Now we have a picture of the punter. It looks like a murderer, doesn't he? Okay, well, does he? Yeah, I guess. Fits the profile. White. Roy, earlier in the show, I have been told, okay, I have been told.

There's a number of different things in football that I want to get to include. I want to ask the question seriously by poll. Does Aaron Rogers look like someone in a Survivor movie, like toward the end of it, where he's being hunted by other humans, like through the jungle? Because I've got to think after 11 or 12 games he's looking up and being like, why am I doing any of this?

What's the point of anything? And he's blaming his receivers, which gets to be the top headline yesterday, somehow over that football day, where everybody's broken, okay? These guys are going to suffer through the holidays. Herbert's out there playing with one hand. Aaron Rogers can't. Aaron Rogers and Justin Herbert can't sneak

because they can't really take a snap under center. They've got a shotgun. Where the margins for the sport are so small that Jacksonville yesterday did you see how they were struggling because the long snapper being hurt sort of affects your entire weekend. No one thinks about this. The long snapper, all of a sudden you're throwing flutter balls back there.

They'll get blocked. So the long snapper getting hurt basically takes out three position players where your holder, your kicker, and your long snapper. You can't trust them. And Jacksonville's got one of the best ones. The margins are this big, and Aaron Rogers, after a woeful offensive performance, where he's got a 311-pound tight-end. That Georgia locker room had some athletes in it, huh?

Worf's caught a pass yesterday, and he's 6-5-3-20, and everyone's celebrating, and I'm like, Pittsburgh's got a tight end that's the same side. Like, what are we celebrating Worf's as a fat guy touchdown? 320 pounds isn't fat anymore in that sport. I was back when the SEC was actually the SEC. That used to be the fridge's weight. The fridge was a novelty at like 3.30, and now we've got a 311-pound tight end running through the secondary. But where the football resides over the weekend, a lot of bad football.

The best football was the holiday football professionally, where the four dogs win, and it's just total chaos in the NFL, where San Francisco is eking into the playoffs at 9 and 4. You know Dallas is better than most of the teams in that sport. they've actually fixed some things defensively. You know that Dallas is better than most of what you're seeing in the AFC, but somebody in the NFC is going to get left out, a lion, that you know would ransack a Patriots team that doesn't have its tackles? Like, you think the Patriots are going to survive not having their tackles the way that Josh Allen can? Because I don't.

We'll see if Drake May is what we've been told he is, because he's mobile, but this one's pretty hard here. You've got, he's out two tackles and this is the pass rush. This is one of those games. Wouldn't you have liked to have had the 14 parlay that over the holidays, Thursday and Friday, just bet all the dogs? Just bet all the dogs. The Packers against the Lions.

Did you just ask if I wish I had a parlay with multiple teams and won? I think I hear what Dan saying. NFL should go to the college system where we just decide who's good. Lose your tackles? That's it. No more Drake May. It doesn't matter that you're tended to. Just like James Madison.

We agree, Dan. It'd be funnier if we did it that way. Would it or would it be chaos? Well, it's already chaos, though. You think a sport that actually has a tiebreaker that's head-to-head has it right? You fools. We are laughing. Are we not at the fact that the four-and-eight Bengals are in the mix?

Oh, I need to make an announcement, by the way. Carolina Panthers, season's over. Whoa. After that win, you've seen everything that you need to. Yeah, seasons over for the Carolina thing. They could host a playoff game. That's crazy. You just said it was over.

That game yesterday. So Stafford hadn't thrown, he'd thrown two picks all season. He threw two in the first quarter. He made the bonehead plays he never makes. He fumbled as well. Three times the Rams looked incompetent because Matthew Stafford was on a streak unlike any we've never seen from a quarterback before. 28 straight touchdowns without an interception. I don't think he'd thrown an interception since what, week six?

And then Adam Schaefter tweeted that and then he threw an interception the next drive. Happened a couple of times. Happened to Hanson a couple of times on Red Zone. He said Brissette hasn't had an incompletion. interception. He said, Folk's the best kicker in the league. Miss field goal. Boom. Both times happened to hands him. Nick Folk. That guy. He's just on the sideline

with his helmet. It just looks like he needs a cigarette. Well, but so does Brock Bowers. Put it on the Pollard Show. Brock Bowers, greatest tight end you've ever seen or a 50-year-old plumber. He needs to go bold. He needs to... You've been on that a while. I mean, Brock, come on. You're dominant

athletic beast. You cannot look like a 50-year-old plumber. You look older than Terry Bradshaw. Put it on the pole. Does Brock Bowers look older than Terry Bradshaw? Good tight end room at Georgia. I mean, that's why Washington wasn't playing as much. Decent tight end room at Washington. All right, with Washington in Georgia.

Roy, there's the sound. Thank you for doing that. Thank you for bringing me back to that sound. That sound is Roy disgusted. This is the most disgusted I've heard Roy about sports in 20 years. That was Roy earlier in the show. That happened 25 years ago. It was the righteous rate.

Yes, this part of Roy has been dead inside. Angry as you've heard him in 20 years. for a story that happened 25 years ago. That's right. It's so infuriated. Is he saying nah, or it's just like, oh. No, he's just mad that Miami, what's happening to Miami's the same thing. He sees history repeat itself.

Yeah. Exactly right. The story that he's talking about got everybody so mad that we're like, we're not doing computers anymore because we need to value head to head. And here we are 25 years later. Roy, Roy, this has happened to you. You care about hockey this way, but I think your two most heartbroken, most feeling sports places are anything hockey related and the University of Miami being betrayed and wronged in a way that is clear and awful and obvious to everyone. Absolutely.

The BCS, the lost Ohio State. It's just ridiculous, man. I'm devastated again. It's finally hitting you, huh? Yes. I wanted to talk 25 years ago Roy's like I need time to process this

and he took 25 years and he's finally ready to share his thoughts man my head was down I was salking the entire night after the yeah I was I was talking the entire night after Ohio State law I don't believe it

hard to envision hold on so but just just to be clear just to be clear lest it's anyone is under confusions right now and what's happening with betting odds. The way the schedule is played out, it's very possible that

the University of Miami has played its last game this season, correct? They'll get a bowl. Look at the best of the best, unimportant bowls. Don't sleep on the Tax Slayer Bowl, Dan. I went to that Pop-Tart Bowl last year. You reject it, right, Mike? If you don't get in? No, I ain't going to your bowl. No, thanks. I don't like the

Pop-Tart Bowl because we're a joke there. But if it's, guys, if it's the cheese at citrus bowl. Oh, shit. That's a horse of a different color. And the Pop-Tart, he jumps into, like, the toaster, and then he comes out, and they eat it. Yeah, there's six of them this year. It's a wacky change of pace.

Game is fun, man. I am not prepared for the last two seasons of University of Miami football to have today in it the finality of, oh, so everyone's going to be in agreement then that Miami has played its last game because the arguing is over and the propaganda and the Mario Cristoball interviews are large. over and so the season is over. No, Dan. We've just begun to fight. But, with

that being said, I'm going to drift off to the background. Mario Cristobal's got it from here. You remember when Colin Cowherd told LeBron, we're good. We're good. We're good. Thanks. We got Ben Simmons here. That's something that Colin Cowherd said. LeBron, I'm fine.

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Get your first year for 250 a month. Learn more at pceexpress.ca.ca. Don Lebertard. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stoogads. Mike, I have a legitimate question for you. Do you think and take me seriously? Head to head is always the number one criteria for anything. He speaks for me.

That you deserve more credit if Miami makes the playoff, then maybe their backup cornerback? I heard him push. We needed those backup corners. I heard him push Chuckle-Fleck and Lou Riddick into a whole new dimension. He didn't answer my question. But we all heard that happen the same way. Did we not?

Head to head. Did we all not hear? Washusen and Riddick had 20 minutes to fill, and they were going to fill it with U.M. propaganda. I mean, so Dan clearly believes the answers, yes. I'll go with the take that they just reacted to the game they saw. Miami looked a lot better. this week than they did last week. I, I, Chuckle-Fi and Lou Riddick have some pride.

Where's the spot where? Oh, they want us to talk good about Miami. We're going to talk good. They were doing five minutes of pro-Miammy talk that Miami would have liked to them. If Miami had scripted what those guys could say at the end of the game, that's what it would have sounded like. But it wouldn't have made sense a week ago because they were up 10 late against Virginia. But Chris, what I'm saying to you is when Mike yells a chuckle-hick saying where was this last week, you guys weren't talking honestly on the air about Miami being wronged on a national broadcast. Correct me. You heard it, right, Zaz? You heard it? No, no, I did not. I heard it. I was listening.

Okay, because if I had wanted to write that and say, can you eschusin and Riddick, please do this on behalf of Miami, that's how I would have written their conversation. So don't say they didn't change their tone. It totally changed. But I'm giving the team and how they performed on Saturday credit for that change. You could give it to Mike. It's Mike's credit that he's due. I think they're reacting to what they're seeing.

To answer your question, we lost OJ Frederique and PFF's Best College Corner in the nation. So someone give me a position group where they were healthy. And we got that. Bryce Fitzgerald, a freshman, by the way. Head to head. Head to head matters. Bryce Fitzgerald stepped up admirably. The backup corners, Jeremy.

Who's the backup quarterback? You deserve more credit than him, right? I think it's Malachi Tony now. So you deserve more credit. Can I talk about him just for one more second, okay? Because I'm unused to, I'm not. I don't have a lot of experience. with a freshman arriving and then me saying, well, hold on a second.

So the rules are going to make him a Heisman candidate for three years because everyone sees that he's a special talent? Malaki. Not special talent. I am saying, Zaz, and I don't think this is prisoner of the moment, I'm going to say unprecedented talent in the history of Miami, given Miami football, given the age and the range of he'll throw passes, he'll run reverses, he'll make the one-handed spectacular catch.

We saw two of those in football yesterday, okay? Bowers and Pooka both made catches yesterday, both of them. Bowers and Puka Nakua both made catches yesterday that are among the best you've ever seen in your life from an athlete. It's the elusiveness for me. He just doesn't get tackled. It takes like three guys. He's a small guy.

He breaks tackles. That's the part that stands out the most to me. So to the eye test, this person is a legitimate star in a Heisman race that is crowded and he's getting his name out there earlier. But I don't think I'm overreacting when I say a school that produces a great many playmakers has

never had one that has this kind of range and certainly not with this kind of youth. I think he's the most instinctual football player on offense that we've had since Santana Moss. He doesn't do it with straight line speed, though he's going to get faster the more time he spends in college. His dad had track speed. He's going to improve his quickness somehow. He is especially quick. But when he gets into the open field, he doesn't have Santana's speed, but he's got his vision.

He takes angles and makes guys look foolish. He's such a great football player. and it's not just him with a ball in his hands. The block that he had, to bring Carson back on a run, he's just such a great football player. I don't know whether you guys, it still means anything to you with the national broadcast being as fractured as they are. But to me, it still means something

when Lou Riddick is the one saying Malachi Tony is one of the best, one of the very best. It's not just a broadcaster saying this is among the best pass rushers at his position. He knows what he's watching. there and it's going to be great in college football for the next three years if he does not get hurt. He plays, it's a special football player and I'd like him to continue watching him play games. But the thing that I don't want to go any more days without noting because where all of the controversy resides around gambling and what's real and who's bought and what players are in on it

and what referees are in on it, and I'm not going to think about the rigging of games, how felonious that is and how many people would be in trouble if the games themselves didn't always keep their integrity. One of the great evolutions in sports in my lifetime inventions of any kind is the replay command center giving you a game day operation center where you can hear how the referees are talking about things. Love that. Oh no, but the access is so unbelievable that I believe they've changed how it is that you can believe in sports because even if they get it wrong, you're like, oh, I see how they came back. They've offered me full transparency on how they're discussing it.

And so I'm good. I'm slightly less outraged than I would have been because I'm stupid in plain sight now. I want to know what it sounded like before they knew they were being recorded, you know? Because it's so professional now. Everyone good? Everyone have a good. Like before it was probably like, I don't know. They know they're not.

I imagine it was so chaotic, and now they're like, hey, we've got to keep this clean. I was in the concourse, and they were playing the pit broadcast during the sideline catch. It clearly wasn't a catch. In fact, everyone on the instant replay agreed, we don't really see the catch here. So call upheld, catch. The pit broadcasters were laughing at how bad that call was. All right, first down pit. Well, they reversed.

The way they talked about it at the beginning was totally different about how they talked about it at the end. Like they reversed course. Did you see the call that they had was the, the real. Result of the play is a touchdown. Miami pulled the player into the end zone. They lined up, and the pit broadcasters were like, oh, this is a weird place for Miami to go for two. And everyone, the score was reflected a touchdown.

They said, result of the play is a touchdown, and then they lined up for another play, and then Miami just scored another. But it was just bonkers. That's the same referee, by the way, from the SMU game. Wait a minute. That was a PS that was... No, it's necessary because Miami has two losses,

because one of them was handed to them by the officials. There were multiple miscalls, including the vaunted lightfoot roughing the pass that came on a fourth down that essentially turned a win into a loss. Miami had a game stolen. So did we! Just like, oh, you stole a game with the referee's help against Auburn. Contacts that should matter for whoever wants to cape up and fight this good fight. Again, I lay my sword down.

Luca Gilbert, tight end, has two catches for 37 yards. Do you deserve more credit for Miami making the playoff if they do than that? Luca Gilbert. Luca Gilbert made one of the best catches I've ever seen at Green Tree. That guy is going to be a player. What about Luke Nickel? Back up quarterback. Scout team stuff.

That's important. Can I ask how everybody here felt about the way that they started the broadcast of UM and Pitt with the quote from Mario Cristobal as he prowled up and down the sidelines, possibly not making the playoffs again, there is no such thing as bad weather, just soft people. I like it. I mean, that's an asinine thing. to say. I saw so much bad weather last weekend, and it's not because I'm soft, though I am.

No, if you can't handle the weather, you're soft. You're going to say this? You couldn't handle the weather this weekend. Do we have photographic proof of Zaslo and how he doesn't know how to dress like an adult? It's not merely that Mike Ryan accuses him credibly of not being an insider, even though Zaslo wins that argument. Zazzo did not have Chris. Did you see any of this?

Zaslo continues to not be able to dress like an adult. I mean, this actually looks better than last week. Well, no. Someone gave you that jacket. Dan, yeah. Well, okay, so that jacket does not fit me. That's as far as it goes. I'm wearing a small right there. Me, Ambers is actually bigger than me. We both needed those jackets. Luckily, you had them on hand. I was freezing. I was not dressed appropriately. Your hands look so cold. I don't understand. Can any of you in the room please walk me through what seems to be real toddler behavior? Again, I will say, Zaslo is not in his first year with this traveling outfit.

He knows that college football cities and campuses and places off lakes get cold. He's got a year of experience. How am I supposed to know there's a lake? Zaslow. Zaslow was you went to Madison, Wisconsin in late November, and I could have told you at any time in my lifetime that's dangerously cold, but especially off a lake. You're going to get wind blowing that feels really unpleasant.

It's going to feel colder than 40, even if it's 40. You dressed poorly last week. this week. And I was surprised this happened with Lucy. It makes me wonder if she's got an ice in her bones from Iowa that I don't understand. She said Zaslo would be fine in Norman, Oklahoma, this time of year. And I'm thinking to myself as a South Floridian. No, that's been a hellscape my entire lifetime during winter. Like I would absolutely not want with the clothes that I have to ever go to Norman, Oklahoma for any reason when the wind starts blowing. I told you, last week in Madison, I was going to be fine because I control my own blood. Now, this week in Norman, I will admit, Dan, I was annoyed and embarrassed with myself. I can admit when I'm embarrassed. Not everybody can admit that. I can admit when I'm embarrassed. And it was so cold this weekend in Norman that I was embarrassed with myself that why can't I get on the same page with weather?

Like, what is my problem that I can't pack warm enough? Great question. That I just, I'm not on the same page with weather. At least you weren't shamed a week ago about it. again he had a year to learn this it's a strange thing I did not go to Burlington he had a year and a week

where this burned him last week but he didn't want to learn he had no point during the week he's like you know let me open up the air of the weather wrap you a jacket Amber literally told me the day before there is a cold front coming into Norman Saturday afternoon and what did I do about it Dan

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This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Oh, are we using Ho this much because it's Christmas season? Ho-ho-ho? Yes, that's all that we're celebrating. In the Ho and holidays, it's always the first word in holidays. can you please though give to the audience any semblance of understanding as like I I don't think there are a lot of worse feelings than feeling cold I live where I live because the feeling of cold to me is something that windy cold specifically so so look I but I may be one of I must

be one of these soft people Mario Cristobal speaks of for sure you are um If you're asking that question, I can confirm. There is bad weather. I will not be told there's not bad weather. I don't care. What a meat, what kind of meathead he is. Don't tell me there's not bad weather in Norman, Oklahoma. There's bad weather there all the time.

I don't think he's using the cold weather thing as a criteria to determine whether or not you are soft. All I had, all I had there in Norman, all I had brought with me, I had a zip-up jacket, and underneath it, I was wearing a Miami Heat shirt. That's what I had. I think he was looking at your full resume, body of work. That's fine. he can say that if he wants there's still bad weather and if he has any kind of objection we can take it inside because it's where i prefer because there's you know a log cabin or some warmth some heaters that i need if marion christopal has any sort of objection to what i'm saying that there is

indeed bad weather i disagree with him and there are also soft people and i may be among them but that's not a neither-or show some nuance caveman or we can take it inside i'll take it inside if you want to take it at time. Jordan Lyle, three carries for 22 yards this season. Mike Ryan, did you deserve more credit for Miami's success if they make the playoff? He got hurt early, didn't do much with his opportunities you could argue. He prevented Miami from seeing what they had in Pringle. Okay.

But his fall camp was too good. Iron sharpens iron. So do you think you've seen your last football game of the season of consequence? You believe with stakes on it? You believe that this. I would like to win a bowl game. I would like to do that because there's like all those like memes. Have you resigned yourself to, I'm not going to argue my way in, I'm going to lose.

Miami's going to get shut out. Miami's a betting favorite to be shut out of these playoffs. You'd get eight to one odds right now on Miami getting into the playoffs, no matter what happens from here. What's happening with Miami is the most obvious thing in the world. This is obviously wrong. Head to head should matter. There is a team that is bunched up closely with Miami. They have the same record as Miami.

Miami beat them. Also, Miami is a common opponent argument over any of the, they are also grouped with. Not JMU. You have to look at this matter of factly. Are you okay with this? And a lot of people are okay with it, but I'm really hoping logic and reason really ascend here over the next week of dialogue. I don't have to fight that much. I feel like I have one of the best teams in the nation playing its very best football right now. At 4-0 after that embarrassing defeat handed down by the officials in that SMU game, I like Miami's hand here. I think it's the most obvious thing in the world, they're a playoff team, and I think other people need to get

with the program. I think the canes are going to jump to 11 tomorrow night, which of course is not good enough. I think they're going to jump to 11. So is there anything that can happen between tomorrow night and Sunday when the final rankings come out that could help the canes get to 10? If Miami does indeed go to 11 like you're saying, then you look at number 10. You have Miami, then Alabama ahead of them, then Notre Dame. Does the committee guard against Alabama losing in the SEC title game again by moving them ahead of Notre Dame because if that's what happens you have Notre Dame and Miami grouped right head head to head once again. So that's what we want then. It's for Alabama to win the championship. You want the optics

of Miami right there with Notre Dame and the committee and you're a check telling you we think Notre Dame even though they have the same exact record and got fat on bad teams. By the way you want to talk common opponents. Miami beat three of the four common opponents worse than Notre Dame did. You have all those arguments working in your way. I got to feel in my heart of hearts. You can't do that. If the team below beat the team directly ahead of them, you can't hold out that team. You can't. Does the ACC Commissioner, and I say this half jokingly but half serious, does the ACC Commissioner have the ability just to say, you know what? Duke's not in the championship game. Miami is. I just, they deserve, like, I don't care about what tiebreakers

We've said in the past, I'm the commissioner of this conference, and Miami dessert, like, I'm half kidding, but, like, that would make, that would clear this all up. Then they would have an ACC championship game to play in. You're pathetic. No, I'm not. It just, it just makes sense. Even Duke fans have to be like, we don't deserve to be in this. You feel good about these words coming out of your mouth?

I'm being half, like I said, half serious, half joking. If you're half serious, that means half of you is serious. If the, if the, if the, if you say you're half serious, half of you is serious. If the ACC, you're saying, never mind about playing the schedule. Never mind, I'm the commissioner. No, I rule as Lord. No, never mind these stupid tiebreakers that we thought made sense, but they clearly don't because Duke is in the game.

This, I am with Mike, I'm with Mike Ryan and Chris Cody in making the following argument unemotionally and without bias. Who would argue with that? I believe the commissioner should indeed have the power to choose what we think is right. I think that the commissioner of the ACC should give this show the power of, look, guy, we know Manny Diaz would tell you this is not how it should be Mario's got the better players

Nice win Duke Congratulations against Wake Forest If it came out this morning ACC Commissioner says It's Virginia versus Miami We don't care about the Tybergers we said years ago Both Duke and Virginia All right Virginia actually

You know what Virginia I even think I think Duke would be cool You think Duke's like I think Duke would be like We don't deserve to be in this game This is stupid Do you wish you said different words?

No, like I said, half kidding, half serious. They earned their way. If half of you is serious, then half of you is serious. They earned their way. Yes, they haven't been anybody in the ACC. Neither is Miami. Hold on, let me think about that. No, but Notre Dame is a signature win.

It's supposed to be a signature win. That's not the ACC. That's right. Miami v. Georgia Tech, which was, they were a better team. Miami did not play. She did not play. Miami beat the team that beat Georgia Tech. Like I said, like I said, half kidding.

Miami beat the team that beat Virginia even though that was an ACC game between two ACC teams that did not count for the ACC. Do the right thing, ACC Commissioner. I do think that there is actually precedent for this. I think the Big Ten has done this in the past, but there's a flaw in what you're saying, and that's like Jim Phillips finding a spine. This is exactly what he deserves because he is spineless. Our show whimpering that the commissioner has no spine because he won't change.

Nobody would agree that Duby deserves to be an accident. I hear you. In a vacuum, that sounds bad, but I've been calling Jim Phillips spineless for several years. Jeremy, you don't agree that Duke should be in the game of Miami. You know what? That does make it okay. Mike's right. Based off of like a seventh-layered tiebreaker. He reached off of the rules that have been there forever. I've called him a cuck numerous years.

Is he a cuck? I don't think you've reported that publicly. I don't think that's something you've said. I've never said that on the air and I won't. What's his name, Mike? What's that guy's name? No. Jim Phillips.

Hey, Jim Phillips. Look at me. Do the right thing. You know Duke doesn't deserve being that game. Even Manny Diaz would agree with you. Can I tell you what's funny? If you go to the ACC standings on ESPN.com, Duke is still sixth in the AISS. Exactly.

I don't know how they went. Stupid. Half serious. I don't know how they win the tiebreaker. How are they sixth? I don't know how they win it. You feel good about those words? I look this up.

It's the combined in-conference record of the teams that they beat in the conference. That's an acronym for dumb. Why don't they have them second then? They're six. That's a website. So dumb Maybe you read your games Do the right thing

Are you more than half serious? I think everyone agrees with me Are you more than half series? I'm like 55% serious It is It is proof positive That conferences are too big And it leads me to my solution

For all of this Which is if we're going to go These huge conferences You eliminate one of the regular season games And you install a semifinal And a final To ensure that you do actually have the best teams and you mitigate what can happen in the conference right now.

That's a good idea. Let's just keep changing the rules. No, no, no, no. This was just so we can get Miami there. Jeremy, Jeremy, I hear you. You don't agree that you should be there. We're arguing about the 12th best team in the country, by the way. Please, please, I'm trying to make a point that I've made for years.

I've called Jim Phillips spineless for years. And I've also said, I never said that publicly, and I never will. And I've also said for years, if we're going to expand to conferences this large, They need to hold off one block of the regular season, make that a semifinal, and you match up everyone else in the standings that it's reflective of where they are presently, and you sort that out on the field because Mario Cristobal told you earlier. You can't be out here calling someone a cuck. I didn't.

You can't do that. You can't do that. Stop saying that I did that. I never did. And I won't. Head to head is always. You can also, Chris, be out here with I'm 50% serious. I'm half serious.

You're a little more than 55% serious, aren't you? I think he should do the right thing. This is not my decision to make. Change all the rules. No, just do what makes sense. Nobody across the country. I know Jeremy's doing a thing right now. Nobody thinks.

I am not doing a thing. I'm doing the right thing. He doesn't think Duke deserves to be in that game. I'm not with him, by the way. The two best ACC team should be in the ACC. I'm not with them. You could see this coming like a freight train. The problem is a lack of foresight.

I'm glad we settled this. I'm glad we're all in agreement. They're the only team that didn't beat all the good teams. all the rules so that this show gets what it wants. Yes. I mean, it's not about me right now. This is about doing the right thing and the teams that deserve to be there.

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