The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Keep It Movin' with Terrence Ross

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

"I'm not great with viral trends. Eating Tide Pods and all that s**t." We discuss the rumors surrounding Christian Wilkins after he was released by the Las Vegas Raiders. Plus, Grok tells us the mo...st famous person to visit our Twitter profiles, we debate which actor had the best run in the 90s, and Zaslow is Mr. Steal Yo Girl. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. What I started the show with was we have so much to get to and and then Chris grabbed the steering wheel and went right into Bryce Harper. But one of the things I do want to talk about at some point is the Christian Wilkins situation in Vegas, which I find fascinating. Fascinating. Every time I get a little bit more information, I feel a little bit more confused than I was before. If you don't know, Christian Wilkins, defensive end, right? Tackle.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Tackle. For the Raiders. apparently was released because of Something he did something that made another player uncomfortable and then Adam Schefter goes on We don't know that it was that something that may have contributed to the release Right is what they're saying and then Schefter goes on McAfee and he reveals what the act was that made the player uncomfortable and it was a kiss on top of his head. Apparently Wilkins kissed a guy. A quote unquote playful kiss. A playful kiss on top of his head. And the internet went crazy. Which is again fascinating to me when people kinda like seize on this because what they do is they find all the instances of,
Starting point is 00:01:29 aha, here's the smoking gun we shoulda known, including one time he did the splits at the national championship game. Well there was also that time during the CFP where he put his fingers and checked the oil. Yeah, like us down here, because we watched him play for five years, the first five years of his career
Starting point is 00:01:46 Like we'd known about these incidents that Clemson video that is going around the internet now We certainly knew about it There's another clip where him and Josh Allen had been rivals every year playing against each other twice a season Grab this hog right and there's this one clip where it kind of looks like that and Josh Allen gets really mad. Now, mind you, on the bottom of piles in the NFL, things happen, man. Spitting, biting, pinching, but just in broad daylight like that, Christian Wilkins was caught a couple times, you know? And like, we were kind of aware of this stuff because he was here and we covered him for five years. And now for the first time you got other people who are kind of, oh my God, what is that, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:28 I think that's the big thing is that, man, a lot of that stuff that people are pointing to them, like that's not as rare as you think it is, right? As far as, again, the grabbing and the poking, that's not rare. Aside of all that poking and stuff He was on the opposite end of that thought of as like a great locker room guy down here fun guy like a good teammate like a play like all the players
Starting point is 00:02:53 Delight like that's the that was his perception down here like team like when we lost him It wasn't just they lost a player. It was like he was the leader of that defense So it's it's a little surprising Do you guys think this is the end of this story? Because the way that it was kind of put out there was, it was described as a very weird situation by a number of people who went out of their way to not clarify anything.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And then yesterday we just got the reporting from Adam that was like, hey, it was a playful kiss on the forehead. And it's like, that seems not to the same level of what was being reported before in the cover. Not that I'm questioning the reporting, it just seems like more may, there may be more to come from this situation. I think there's a lot more to come.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Florio pushed right back at what Schefter said. Oh yeah? Yeah, saying he had not heard that, he heard something completely different, which means there are several of these stories going around. It did make me think back to when the Dolphins made the decision to move on from him. It seemed weird at the time,
Starting point is 00:04:00 because this was a young man that was entering his prime and was good on the field at that time and was- He was great that season too. Well liked and it does give you some more But with him there's money at play too Like he was gonna get paid and that was also coming up around the two a time where you have to make contract decisions Money wise it also just feels like whatever the answer is if it's Florio side if it's Schefter side This is not the first time it's happened right like this has been kind of a snowball effect of his time with the Raiders. Hey, this is okay We'll pass that up. Okay, that was kind of weird. What was this about?
Starting point is 00:04:30 So now it's just finally coming to a head where we don't know the player that it happened to I feel like we would have Known if it was a high profile person, right? It feels like maybe it's somebody that is not as high profile and just got fed up with it I profile person may not want it to come out because you don't want to then be asked about hey What did feel like and Christian Wilkins kissed you? You know, I mean, we're dancing around it, right? Like, there is in locker rooms still a level of homophobia that in common society isn't quite as present.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And what I mean by that, I don't, first of all, I'm not saying that Christian Wilkins is gay or whatever. I just wanna also be very clear that we're not conflating the two things. Right, right, no, but I'm saying, like, homophobia in this sense. Well, also in a standard workplace, you can't just go up and kiss someone on the head
Starting point is 00:05:16 and, like, face no consequences. I don't know if that's stuff, man, that's not an average workplace stuff that goes on in the locker room. No, I know, but I'm saying, like, you're saying, like, oh, well, there's just homophobic. No, no, no, no, no, no. Try doing that here.
Starting point is 00:05:26 There's consequences also. Let me explain what I mean by that. Like, homophobia in the sense that, like, Guy kisses another guy on top of that. Ew, man, what you doing all that gay shit for? That's what I'm talking about. Like, it's not that Christian Wilkins is gay, right, or anything has happened of that nature.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's things that are a little on the awkward side. Guys respond very vehemently with, why are you doing all that gay shit, right? And very quickly turns into, I don't know about him. He's weird. Weird is a synonym, many cases a euphemism for, I think there's something a little off. You know, they're doing all that language. a synonym, many cases a euphemism for, I think there's something a little off,
Starting point is 00:06:06 you know, they're doing all that language. And again, it's not that he is or he isn't, or even that if he is, that there's anything wrong with that. It's just that in locker rooms, sometimes it's still, this is like the last frontier, like Dan calls it, like it still isn't 20, 25 in locker rooms. I mean, but the Raiders also, this is where Carl Nassib played,
Starting point is 00:06:26 who was one of the first openly gay players. So I wouldn't come out and just say, hey, the Raiders are homophobic, that's why Christian Wilkins is not on the team anymore. But there's a difference between a guy is gay and a guy quote unquote acts gay. I mean, those are the same thing in that locker room, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:06:43 Not exactly. No, no, no, it's an invasion of personal space. It's making other people feel uncomfortable. You can do that whether you're straight or gay. Yes, yes. And that's what, but the roots of it, of that in particular, is homophobia, right? It's a homophobia of like, hey, if I'm touched in that way,
Starting point is 00:07:03 it has a meaning to it. It's not that it's like- Yeah, for some. For some, for some. Yeah, other people just like get the hell away from me. Yeah, I don't wanna paint with a broad brush. I'm just saying like that feeling, which again, if you went to high school in the 90s or in the early 2000s, that was rampant.
Starting point is 00:07:19 All of us were like, ah, ah, ah, ah, like, oh, you see how he like patted him on the butt, whatever, like that was a thing. And I know now I sound like, oh, you see how he patted him on the butt? That was a thing. And now I sound like a dinosaur and I'm like, oh, I mean, I'm just saying to you that that culture still exists in some areas, and one of those areas is in sports locker rooms, in professional sports. Yeah, I'm of the belief that there are several,
Starting point is 00:07:43 I mean, several gay players in the league. For sure. Mostly closeted, but also teammates will tell you when they retire, they've known of other guys. I think this goes beyond that, even though I understand. Well, of course mostly closeted, by the way. Isn't there only one openly gay player? Right, right, but even like behind the locker room doors.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Some guys may be known inside of a locker room. What he's talking about is like, everyone on the team knows the dude is gay. We just don't. But the public doesn't know. Because they don't feel any, it's like Billy Kennedy, the NBA ref, everybody in the NBA knew Billy Kennedy was gay.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Right, that was a known thing before we knew him. But it wasn't a public thing that fans knew or the media I think knew. Right, and I think that there is a difference, and I do think that we walked back to the conflation of the two things. I think that very clearly something happened in that locker room, and it may be what Adam reported on.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I would guess multiple things. I think it would probably be more to it than that, considering his standing on that team, and ultimately the team can decide, this person makes us really uncomfortable. And the month before we voided the remainder of his guaranteed money give me a reason to get rid of this guy. We when I worked for the Suns we had a guy that we were gonna sign and there were concerns about him being awkward in the locker room and we were were worried about, it wasn't even,
Starting point is 00:09:06 it was like we were worried what some of our players, how they would react to him doing that stuff in the locker room. And we ended up signing the guy, and he was a different kind of guy, but it never manifested in the way we did. But again, a lot of times, again, the organization sometimes becomes over overly. I don't want to say protective.
Starting point is 00:09:30 That's the wrong word, but projects a little too much on, Oh, this guy's going to hate how this guy acts and we got to do something about it. When a lot of times that stuff either doesn't happen or if it does happen, gets handled behind closed doors in the locker room. Like those guys typically are very upfront and confront one another about, hey, I don't like it when you do this. And unless the other guy is just a real asshole, like, oh, I'm going to do it every single day or whatever, it usually gets resolved.
Starting point is 00:09:56 That's why I'm curious as when you say it's multiple things, I got to assume that when they talk to Christian Wilkins, he's like, oh, I mean, my employment is number one. Me being a locker room funny guy has to come secondary to a paycheck, right? I would assume. Or do you think everyone was passive aggressive? And like, I hate it when he does that shit. But never saying anything to him,
Starting point is 00:10:22 and then one day they let him go. I think that could be it, yeah. Feels like a critical mass situation when you see what's out there already, see the social media sleuthing that's already been done, when you see things that he's done in plain sight, as you mentioned, not at the bottom of a pile. And with what Mike Florio said,
Starting point is 00:10:42 I imagine we are gonna be hearing more about this because it does lead to more questions. If it was just this invasion of personal space, this kiss on the forehead, that doesn't necessarily add up when you consider the money this guy's already made in the league, the expectations for him, when he lines up for his team,
Starting point is 00:10:59 there's more to it, it would seem. Let me ask, let me pull back the curtain. Is it gonna be awkward tomorrow? I think Izzy's in tomorrow, right? Is Izzy in tomorrow? Is it awkward if we ask Izzy about this? Or is that like, is that like, yo? You should definitely ask him.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Are we doing the thing again? Or it's like, the gay representative. No, we did it without him today, so. Yeah, oh, so there you go. That's what covers us. That's why he's not here. There you go. We sent Izzy home today, so we could talk about this.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Perhaps like all wrong. We'll find out. I don't think you lead it with, Izzy, you're gay. Let me ask you this. He's what? That's not the way to do that. That was exactly how I was gonna open too. Folks, nothing says summer like long days,
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Starting point is 00:12:33 expire seven days after issuance for additional terms and responsible gaming resources see dkng.co slash audio Don LeBretard! John can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's way if I do it for you I think it's pretty good. Yeah, okay, two guts you think you're big time You're gonna die big time That is my Infamous scale of one to ten that's a that's a seven point six
Starting point is 00:13:13 This is the done libertar show with this two guards Am I all pace in thinking that it's quite possible Christian Wilkins' career is in big trouble? Well, I mean, yeah. When you get released for something that's other than performance, automatically you have to get worried. I guess anybody, I think, if you lose your job, not because you wasn't so good at it, like this guy's good at his job and he got fired regardless of us knowing what the reason is or not you have to worry like is there going to be like a rumor mill that prevents me from getting a job somewhere else?
Starting point is 00:13:56 That's what I think yeah I think you now have a reputation and it's two things it's both them by the way this the first thing is okay there's a reputation now that the team is putting out there that you don't work hard, you don't care about rehabbing and getting out on the field. And then the second part is, does weird things in the locker room. Like, yeah, I think there's going to be a major reputation
Starting point is 00:14:17 now that he has around the league. If it's just that he doesn't work hard and he wasn't taking rehab seriously and it was just one playful kiss, I think that you take a chance on him, especially if it's at a discounted rate. We were walking around today talking to Big Mac. What do you say?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Big Mac, we're talking like, we can get Christian Wilkins back at a discount, get some depth, I don't know. I don't know about this situation. I feel like you gotta do it if you can. Now, if you're a real NFL team and not me and Big Mac you have More information than me and Big Mac have because you have your people kind of like figuring out What's going on you talk to their people and they'll know exactly what's happening here now with the reports are so if people don't go
Starting point is 00:14:58 After him I would assume that's an indication of there's a lot more going on here than we know besides just he doesn't work hard He doesn't you know take rehabs here's because there's all kinds of players that don't take rehab seriously and they get signed anyways But not a lot of players who don't take rehab seriously enough that the team says yeah We're gonna void the rest of your guarantees well. I mean like also if you give a professional Organization in any realm not just sports the option to here's an option to not pay this person a lot of money like they're gonna look for that like any organization they didn't even cut him over it like they still kept him on the team yeah like you know what that's doing that money we have a way to
Starting point is 00:15:36 keep you and not give you that money so we're gonna take that option here when you take a look at all the guys that have been cut for things off the field right they usually kind of get a second chance Depending on what the crime is depend on what like the offense is you're usually getting a second or third chance Gets weird right because yeah It's you would think that letting someone who may be a little bit weird into your locker room But not criminal is a lot easier than a guy who beats up women.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Here's the reason why, right? The reason why is that they're not balancing or weighing those quote unquote offenses against each other, right? What they're weighing is, does the locker room care? And that's the sad part. Like it's for a lot of guys, yeah, that guy had that thing that happened to him,
Starting point is 00:16:26 but wrong place, wrong time, whatever. As opposed to, oh, he's weird in the locker room, that might be an issue. It's kind of the same situation, but a little different with Jonathan Martin and Richie Incognito, right? Like, Richie went on to play again after the Holy Gate. Jonathan Martin never played it.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Right, because- It was like, oh, wait, like, what was going on there? Because the offense that the locker room could not abide by was this dude basically. Not being tough enough. Yeah, and snitching on Richie Basie. Making a case out of it.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But it's also like, unfortunately, how good is this player? That too. And are they good enough? But that's a good point. But isn't he good enough? That's what I'm saying, that whether or not he's good enough and whether or not he bounces back
Starting point is 00:17:02 from this injury could dictate whether or not Lockroom's taken back. This isn't an injury thing, but you saw with Tyre kill a couple weeks ago, where at the end of last year he's like, yeah, I'm outta here. And then he's, I mean, if I were to guess, he's probably gonna be a team captain this year, right? So this guy's like, I don't believe in this team,
Starting point is 00:17:18 I'm outta here. And then like, well, he's gonna have to prove it to us, but there's probably gonna be a C on his chest when the games are happening, because he's good enough for them to just kind of look Past some of this stuff. I'll tell you man all the other stuff that he's done I'll tell you if Tyreek Hill is a captain again this year. That's some soft shit. I actually he's gonna be I actually think they won't I mean, I hope they don't that narrative is just out there of this being a soft organization
Starting point is 00:17:40 I just I'm with you Billy I think they but I just think if you're McDaniel you have to know if he's a real captain He says I'm not a captain, right? That's how you know, he's the captain. I say I don't want this Captain so you're essentially saying he's gonna be a captain no matter what if he has the sea He's a captain and if he does not have this see maybe was him saying I don't need to be a captain Hence that actually makes me a captain, hence that actually makes me a captain.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Correct. So if he has the C, he actually did the thing where he said, I'm not a captain, and then they're like, well, I actually am not a captain. Oh, you're doing like some exception shit. Yeah, yeah. Turn down the C. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:19 He has the C, and it's just confirmation that he told his teammates, hey, I'm not actually a captain. And then they looked at each other, you know. That's some real captain shit right there. Well, that's the other thing is that the organization can or cannot put a C on his jersey, but the locker room really decides who they follow and who they don't.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So they can say, McDaniel can say, I'm not giving him a C. You don't get to wear a C after what you did to us last year. But he walks in that locker room, and everyone's following Tariq Hill. Tariq Hill goes ahead and says, hey, look to me, I'm the captain now. There could be a middle ground.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Like you get the C but we reset the star count. You're not gonna be a legacy captain. You're back at the base level. Could you imagine if in sports they actually use scarlet letters? Pirates, Somali pirates. There's a red A for adulterer, for everyone who's an adulterer on all of their uniforms.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I feel like cheating would go way down in professional sports, not because of loyalty to your spouse, just because you don't want that red A on your jersey. I mean, it did stop Hester Prynne, she still, you know. Yeah, but. Guys like patches on their jerseys, man, we've established that, they like the patches.
Starting point is 00:19:20 A red A, you let her know. You think somebody will take that red A with pride? Yeah, you put that red A, you let them open for business. Does Travis Hunter have a D for dog? I'm pretty sure at Colorado. I like those though, yeah. They had different ones, yeah. They had different ones.
Starting point is 00:19:32 They had different patches, man. Is it like helmet stickers that you get multiple A's? Is Hawk in this week? Is he in on? Not this week. Ah, shit, I would have asked him. How do you feel about having all those patches on? Not an A, not an A for Hawk. But like all the other all the other patches D deeper dog, right? God, I'm sinking
Starting point is 00:19:48 So I think what we learned though is Tyreek Hill no matter what is a captain this year Interesting Captain Phillips you're sinking. Yeah, I got a lifesaver Time to think fast is this a real or fake podcast? Oh, I've never played this game before Right, then you'll play today. You're the contestant Wow a Mean yes, oh, you're not gonna do the whole pomp and circumstance. Oh, yeah, what do we got? What's your name? Hey, I'm a mean I'm from Tempe, Arizona. Lily. You never played lay out If we have a brand new contestant today Amin Elhassan Have you guys I
Starting point is 00:20:31 Mean is tough luck with Phil Helmuth a real or fake podcast. That's the poker player, right? Okay, so Thumbs up. I know who that is Tough luck. No, I don't think that is enough of a poker pun, so I'm gonna say fake. Zazz, you wanna take a stab at it? I think it means reasoning is spot on there. Anybody else wanna venture a guess? Doesn't feel real to me.
Starting point is 00:20:58 It is a fake podcast. Knew it! Somebody guess CVS. There was a carpet on this one. The Mayor's Office with Sean Casey. There's your pun. God, yeah, that's a strong pun. I'm gonna say real.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah, I'm going real too. I'll go fake, because it sounds too real. Fake because it's Fred Hoyberg's. It is a real pot. Yeah White noise with Derek white Derek white of the boss is Celtics Having a podcast called white noise. I'm gonna say no Cuz white noise sounds
Starting point is 00:21:46 Derogatory it means it's just kind of like sound in the background. I'm gonna say no Yeah, I'm going no as well because it sounds like what he's saying is is like nonsense. Yes, just noise That's white noise. Yeah fake. It is a brand new podcast announced yesterday by Derek white himself. Come on. Oh You gotta do better than that keep it moving with Terrence Ross. I know a little bit about Terrence Ross. I think this is exactly the kind of podcast title he would have. I'm going to say it's real. OK, I'm going no, because there's no way Terrence
Starting point is 00:22:17 Ross has a podcast. There's a lot of podcasts out there, pal. I know. Any other guesses? Keep it moving with Terrence Ross we made it up ah damn sorry Terrence what I can finally you didn't hear it from me with Julianna rancic who's Julianna I don't know that fool Julianna ran sick bill I think she's still with Bill. Bill Rancic? She was like the main anchor for E! Entertainment.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Formerly Juliana DiPandi. Oh yeah. Still don't know that fool. Yeah, you know. If you were to see Juliana, you know Juliana. You didn't hear it from me. R-I-P-E News. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I'm gonna say real. You didn't hear it from me with Juliana Rance. Is that real or fake? I think the name of the podcast and the person are both fake. Gossip is a very gossipy, gossipy kind of title for a gossipy kind of show. From a gossipy kind of network host. I can assure you she is a real person, but that is a fake podcast. Oh man, I'm not as good at this as I thought I was.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You had confidence about Terrence Ross. I did, man. Keep it Movin' is a good fake podcast name. Yeah, man. I feel like that's something Terrence Ross would say. Keep it Movin'. That's how he ends a segment. That's the transition point.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Keep it Movin'. I'm sad. What's Juliana up to? I don't know. Not podcasting. Well, maybe she does have a podcast. Everybody has a podcast. Shout out to Derek White for giving me a truly unbelievable actual real podcast.
Starting point is 00:23:51 You know what, man? Some of these podcast names, the puns, they gotta go, man. You don't have to have a pun. That's why I like Club 520, not a pun. It's not a pun. I mean, I guess they're from Indianapolis, that's why. A punny. A little punny. But not punny like, mean, I guess they're from Indianapolis, that's why, but. A punny. A little punny.
Starting point is 00:24:06 But not punny like, it's not like you're out of your teague. Or that would be a punny name. Right? Zazz, keep it moving. What's this new Grok trend you speak of? Oh! Okay, so you guys see this? I'm not good with the social media trends and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You know, like eating Tide Pods and shit like that I'll do that kind of stuff He's not good Just getting around to his algo. Yeah, you know his algo right do the black Beatles challenge next oh So I I don't know what this is though But I keep seeing it pop up on Twitter where I guess, okay again, I don't really know, Grok, at Grok, that's like you ask it questions and it answers things for you.
Starting point is 00:24:52 It's Twitter's AI. Okay, I've never used that before. So clearly as it may sound. And so there's apparently this new trend, I think, have you guys seen it on Twitter where you go like hey Grock who is the most famous person to Visit my Twitter profile People are doing that and then Grock tells you like the person with the most followers Who has actually clicked on and viewed your Twitter profile you haven't seen this I mean no I've seen it. I've seen it Right it. I haven't tried it, but a but actually the guy from Naked City Pizza in Vegas He's a big fan of the show our boy. He had done it and it said that Josh Allen visited his page
Starting point is 00:25:29 Whoa, yeah, okay Let's let's this grock like respond right away. Yeah, does he take a little bit time? I don't know how I think he's very instantaneous But I don't know if it takes them a little bit to kind of also is through you're assuming his pronouns It's great as grock like Gemini because Gemini're assuming his pronouns. Is Grok like Gemini? Because Gemini is awful. There's a- What is the Gemini one?
Starting point is 00:25:49 I don't know, that's Google. Who is that? So Gemini, I mean, Men's Health had an article that came out yesterday about Luka Doncic and how he's in much better shape or whatever, and in it was an excerpt that had been removed because they found out that the fact in it was incorrect and the fact was about Luka Doncic's vertical leap.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I just did it. I just got the response. Dan Lebatard. Well, okay. But this is all a scam. Do you read this full thing? Go on, read the whole thing. It says based on mutual followers
Starting point is 00:26:24 and your role in the Lebatard show, the most famous person likely to have visited your profile is Dan Levitating self sports media icon with massive reach But then this sentence at the end which kind of undercuts all of this profile visits are private. So this is an educated guess Yeah, this is the worst educated guess possible one croc thing stands a legend. I'm a do my con. I'm a do mine Yeah, let's see it's gonna say Dan for everybody you gotta say not Dan Leventhal I'm gonna write who's the second most famous there you go and it's gonna be like Dominic Foxworth on site with him upset bird oh that would be that would be awful
Starting point is 00:27:01 great Cody is the second most- At Darth Amin. Oh, man. Don Lebatard. A recreation of the iconic scene in A Few Good Men, as told by Chris Cody. Stugatz. Colonel Jessup, did you order the code red? You don't have to answer that question. I'll answer the question. You want answers?
Starting point is 00:27:19 I think I'm entitled to them. You want answers? I want the truth! Ah, you can't handle the truth This is the down lebatar show with the stookats People who are not on the show, that's what I want to know right? You know mine would be right you You know what mine would be, right? You guys know what mine would be, right?
Starting point is 00:27:48 All right, let's see what this fool says. I mean, Durant? Michael Jordan, come on. Oh, that's right. Your friend. This is so stupid. Based on mutual engagement and your show's prominence, the second most famous person likely to visit your profile,
Starting point is 00:28:02 John Stugat's wiener. This is just, I'm being funny. So why are people doing this? Because most people don't know famous people. That's why. likely to visit your profile, John Stugots Wiener. This is just, I'm being funny. So why are people doing this? Because most people don't know famous people, that's why. We're kind of a big deal. We're kind of a big deal. It's hard for Grok to like, oh, like wow,
Starting point is 00:28:16 all these famous people follow us. At least Grok is taking his time, can you hurry the hell up? Every time I say Grok, I hear Gronk. Same. Which then makes me think of Gronk reading that passage. Like responding, based on, So I don't really know, but bro,
Starting point is 00:28:34 An educated guess. His Twitter has to be a nightmare since Grock was launched, right? Like how many people accidentally tag him when they're asking these dumb questions? Also, you know, imagine how irritating it must be be you have a name called Gronkowski they call you Gronk you feel like this is pretty unique there's not too many people in the world with this name now there's a baby Gronk and there's a Gronk
Starting point is 00:28:54 and like what like this was my corner of the universe. There's also like six brothers that all go by it so it's confusing. Well they weren't gonna be famous without him. Oh. Right well no I mean come on. Oh it's a little bit annoying. Oh here we go. Let's see. What do we got? What does this fool say? Profile visits on extra private. So exact data isn't available. Based on your mutual followers ranked by engagements the most famous is likely Dan LeBotard via LeBotard Show. This is what you're supposed to ask. Who doesn't follow me? Who is the most famous? I just said who's the third person. I'm gonna keep going down this did it did it think that Dan was still an icon a renowned sports
Starting point is 00:29:30 Podcaster with widespread influence. Yes, that is true. That's a couple takes down Sports podcast or not sure I'm still eating the question now because I'm embarrassed and I'm part to so so to the ask the question Who is the most famous person visit visit my profile, who does not already follow you. I'll do it after third most famous person. Third most famous is gonna be Mina Khaym, or someone like that. Russia probably has all my shit now. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I had it for a while, so don't worry. Putin's like, we got him finally! That's all. He fell for it. He fell for it. Oh, shh. And now we're all communist. Remember when that was the fear
Starting point is 00:30:05 I like the idea of you thinking and not that you do but like the person out. I know you're not talking to me No, the person that's out there thinking you know what? China's not gonna get my information. I could stop them if I want to take Kaczynski. That's how you stop them That's I'd never downloaded tick-tock really. Yeah, China definitely doesn't have me. I've never used that for sure tick-tock get a likely call every five minutes, but I'm somehow scared of that stuff. You're good. Have you ever answered it? No, you're if you do you say hello Yeah, don't let them know it's you That's your scam like voice. Okay. It's Chris Cody there. Oh no
Starting point is 00:30:44 Chris who's the third most famous person who falls in? It's still thinking? Yeah. Come on, Grok, lazy ass. It's just people trolling me saying, I hope it's your dad. Here we go. Wow. Mike Ryan?
Starting point is 00:30:57 Mike Ryan Ruiz. Wow. What does it say? What does it say? The third most famous person likely to visit your profile is Mike Ryan Ruiz, executive producer of the Dan LeBattard show. That's not true. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Come on, Rod. How about you write Grog back, I'm that guy. I'm the captain now. Yeah. Look at me. It's a movie with Tom Hanks. Yes. I watched that movie for the first time Sunday night, honest to God.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Two nights ago. After your date night with yourself? Isn't that the lamest fashion? Solo date night. Isn't that the lamest thing? I saw you, what was that? No fashion? Went home? Straight movie to jerk off to. with yourself I was a bachelor for the first day on so I'm a bachelor this entire week my kids are gone my wife is gone I dropped them off in Porto, Miami on Sunday morning and Sunday night my very first night alone. I watched Captain Phillips That's man. That's loser shit right there Yes, good movie. I wouldn't watch it again. It's good right there. Yeah, it's a good movie.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I wouldn't watch it again. It's a good movie though. I thought it was a good movie. I know I've only watched it once though. Yeah, I wouldn't watch it again. That's super rewatchable. Nope. A lot of those Tom Hanks movies aren't, right?
Starting point is 00:31:55 They give you, if you watch Captain, Forrest Gump is rewatchable. It's actually very high on rewatchable. His 21st century movies. Sully watched it once. It's all right. I'm good. Right?
Starting point is 00:32:06 The one where he wrote The Perdition. Yeah, wouldn't watch that again. Good movie. I don't need to watch it again. It was a good movie. Good click. We'll watch it once. Apollo 13, rewatchable.
Starting point is 00:32:15 90s. Never seen it. Everything past 2000, not rewatchable. I saw some podcast breaking down his run in the 90s. Oh man. Specifically. Holy shit. I'm gonna tell you one thing. Tom Hanks was on a crazy run,
Starting point is 00:32:29 but I think we put, we talked about this on Cinepho, which wherever you get podcasts this week, we had Dracula 2000 was our. Ooh, Gerard Butler played Dracula in that one? Yes he did, yes he did. How bad was his accent? Oh man, it was beautiful. Except they pronounced it Draculia for some reason.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Oh really? Is there a lot of New Metal? Oh, ton of New Metal. Come on, it's the year 2000. Man, May Empire is a New Metal. The movie got greenlit simply because it was titled Dracula 2000. What came out first, that or Queen of the Damned?
Starting point is 00:32:57 Queen of the Damned, no wait, Queen of the Damned came out 2001 because she died. Yeah. She had already died. Because that is the quintessential meaning of new metal and vampires. But I digress. We talked about who had the best year in movie history.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And I think we nailed that. I'll give you Jim Carrey in 1994, and you got nothing. Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber, and The Mask, all in the same year. Give me any other person with a year as good as that. Doesn't exist didn't catch me if you can come out in a year where Leo had another big picture Of one year Forrest Gump Toy Story Apollo 13
Starting point is 00:33:38 It is two different years, but it is the span of one year. No, I'm talking about a calendar year, man Don't don't give me 94 or 95. Catch me if you can, and Aviator's pretty good. He's not Jim Carrey. Aviator didn't land as well as they thought it wanted. Toy Story Apollo 13. Aviator, they thought that thing was gonna be. I thought it was gonna be, and it was a great performance, but that was that weird era where Leo was not really
Starting point is 00:33:57 getting the critical recognition. Yeah, because he's too good looking. There was an era where you were too good looking, couldn't win an award. It was a damn shame. You had to be ugly. You had to ugl fire yourself to win an award He was he did ugly fire himself. He went crazy. He was Howard Hughes. He went crazy
Starting point is 00:34:10 No, you gotta ugly fire stuff the whole movie. He was surrounded by jars of pee and he had long nails Charlize Theron in Monster monster. That's what I'm talking about ugly fire from top to bottom Not like just for a half a second or a half a segment or whatever. Oh, I like this game though. I'm gonna keep finding more. Travolta certainly had that, we were talking about his run where he was just in everything. Yeah, but it wasn't-
Starting point is 00:34:31 In the 70s? No, no, no, in the 90s. They weren't like after Pulp Fiction, but they weren't good movies. Yeah, Phenomenon and Michael and all that stuff. You know what? Did Nicolas Cage in 97 have a run? 97?
Starting point is 00:34:42 So we're talking Face Off? Post-Leaving Las Vegas. Face Off was 96. Rock was 97. And Con Air was 96, I wanna say. Wow. Like it's close. That's all in a 12 month span. My god, pal. I'm telling you, you gotta give me one calendar year. Jim Carrey, Dumb and Dumber, Ace Ventura, and the Mask. Boom, boom. like it changed, it changed his life. 1994 took him from as a guy from In Living Color
Starting point is 00:35:11 to holy shit this guy is one of the highest paid people in Hollywood now. One year, boom, amazing. I'm looking up, it feels almost impossible that Jim Carrey had three films go out in one calendar year. Yeah, yeah man. I mean, because Ace Ventura was fairly low budget. Yeah, Ace Ventura was supposed to be bullshit,
Starting point is 00:35:30 and Mask was supposed to be bullshit. Well, Mask, no. Mask. No, they didn't know that that movie was gonna. No, he got a good payday for Mask. At that point, yeah, but it's also like, why I think Dwayne The Rock Johnson's movie's gonna be good, The Smashing Machine,
Starting point is 00:35:44 because he's already landed all these other big time roles with Scorsese, they get the dailies, they know, they talk. Yeah. So like once Ace Ventura did what it did, and that was probably one where they needed proof of concept, boy was it just making bank. Yeah man, I mean look. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:36:04 February, it had to be February barely Torah had to be February 1994 then the February Yeah, summer blockbuster tentpole. Yep, and then dumb and got released around the holidays December Summer six that is wild. That's DMX putting out two plat like my platinum albums in the same year There's I don't I don't know if anyone can find me something better than that. A year, one calendar year, not 12 months, not over the span of this, like from January to December, who had a better year in Hollywood than Jim Carrey in 1994? Change is like, change my life. I mean, I don't know why we wouldn't just take any in one year.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'll be with you. You can be at the start of one like in a year. No, it's gotta be. You found your game. 94 me a year 94 95 like 2007 what shallow may shallow me doon and I just don't understand why it can't be in a one-year stretch that was like May to May the doon Wonka and the the most recent one Bob Dylan the Bob but that wasn't the same wonka was in the same year no I think dune to and Bob Dylan were in the same year.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Dude, how about one month? 1997. Who? Nicolas Cage, in the month of June, released Con Air on June 6th. And The Rock? And then Face Off on June 27th. Face Off.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah, man. That's the strongest month I got. Wow. That's a great month. I just put in, who is the most famous person to visit my profile who doesn't follow me? You ready for this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Remember, this is Twitter. Based on public ex data and engagement, Elon Musk has viewed threads involving Lebatard affiliates without following many. But profile visits are private. I'm speculating from patterns. Who's your, now he's asking me, who's your guess? So, I don't really take much.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I do love the idea though of Elon Musk just stumbling upon my profile. I'm like, Chris Cody. Now I don't think Groak is doing this. Maybe we're saying it wrong, maybe it's Groak. I think it's Elon Musk, like he's, that's why it's taking so long to respond. I think Groak is right.
Starting point is 00:38:02 You know, all these things. Because Elon Musk is visiting Chris's profile. Wow. Your family went on a cruise without you? I think it's so long respond like rock is right getting all these Elon Musk is visiting Chris's profile Your family went on a cruise without you You said you dropped them off at the oh, yeah, you said you dropped off at the port of my a that I don't They're like just dock people now. I work man. Yes. I'm here Yeah, I got a job. Yeah, everybody has a job. You could take a vacation with your family I don't need vacation and you know what I'm going to I'm going to New York this weekend for summer slam That's good enough for me. That's my vacation.. Yeah, no, I'm gonna miss any work for it. Uh
Starting point is 00:38:29 Monday of next week Monday soft bastard Monday. You should you should be working on Monday No, but I'm flying back Monday. No you fly back after you work you work and then you fly back I know remote I can't be here on Monday in New York There's a thousand flights from New York. Yeah, I've done that before we also have a study in New York. There's a thousand flights from New York. I've done that before. We also have a studio in New York. There's a studio in New York, number one. Number two, there's a 5 a.m. out of Newark that flies into here, gets you on time.
Starting point is 00:38:53 You'll get right at the beginning of local hour. Okay, it's good to know for those people who are gonna be on that flight. So, I mean, just saying what's going on here is just, you know, family cruise, I gotta work. Summer no work priorities work and wait come on now priorities so how's it been solo about the house at the mansion last night the best part is that I get to do whatever I want for dinner that's the best part what did you last night yeah we told you the rankings Sunday was a nice take yourself out treat
Starting point is 00:39:21 yourself dinner yep this is your girl yeah Sunday night I went and I got my side went to a steakhouse I showed up the bar by myself I had myself a ribeye because I was told that filet it's a very feminine type of steak I don't get that first time eating steak so I went ribeye it was great I was mr. steel yo girl I look good and everything and then last night I ordered in pizza and I got the exact kind of pizza that I like I didn't have to ask my family What do you want? What do you want? What do you want? No? I got whatever I wanted. That's right great night last What did you want? Wonder what I'm gonna do tonight. I got my pizza all meatballs. That's right. I got breadsticks with it, too
Starting point is 00:39:59 Don't you worry about it? I can't wait to see what I'm gonna feel like getting tonight because it's about whatever I feel like

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