The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Kevin Con Leche

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

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And I wonder if there is a place Where nobody would show up for me when I pass away I'm having dying dreams, car crash in Tennessee Or Santa Monica, my last breath in rally, need J. Cole to show up, and Klay Thompson's daddy, Michael Jordan for sure, and Shaq and Charles Barkley. Oh, what if I die in a Cleveland sports bar, or a Boston Hot Tub or Tampa I'll make sure I'm done, not in Maine or Mobile Because I belong dying in Arizona

Everyone will be there for me, Arizona I'm gonna make sure that I'm back from West Hollywood. I'm gonna make sure that I die in Arizona, Arizona. Jeremy is getting a lot of praise for that song. Amin is taking a lot of heat for saying that a lot of celebrities would attend his funeral depending on what city he died in and where he was buried. Yeah, I mean, I have strict instructions from my family to bury me as close to where I die as possible.

I don't want people traveling a body across the country. It doesn't really matter where I'm buried, but hopefully it happens in Arizona, because I think we'll get a good turnout. God, Friday was a good show. That was fun. We don't have to criticize that one like we had to do yesterday's show.

But I really, like guys, I'm not gonna lie to you, I walked in today with a much bigger head than I've ever had walking in here. And that's saying something because I know that I can be conceited. I have never in my life received the sheer volume of praise from strangers on the internet as I have over the last week for the day

journalism died and the Arizona song. The day journalism died. I have never heard the sentence on our show before I know I can be conceited. From Jeremy in particular. Well, but I've just never, I've just never heard, I mean, Mike embodies that. If Mike said it, I'd be like, mm-hmm. But I know I can be conceited is not something I've ever heard from anyone on this show.

You have Mike having the self-awareness to think that he- Oh, he knows he's smug. Oh my God, yes, yes. But he never admitted it. The number of times that I allegedly as boss say something to him and he responds with, you sound like my wife, yes.

Yes. Woman. It's been incredible though guys. I mean, I feel like honestly, I'm a little bit nervous. No, cause I'll tell you, I'm now worried about the next time that I show up with a parody song because this sort of feels like, you know, when an artist works for years and years and years at their craft. You should retire. And they ultimately finally release the album that gets the praise.

I agree with Billy, go out on top. I might, look, the praise that they were looking for. I could do the Billy Joel thing. I could just say, I've got enough songs in my heart that I've put out there and it's over and I can quit on top. But I wanna persevere and I wanna know what it feels like to follow up the hit album with another hit, but now, I'm not gonna lie to you guys, I'm nervous persevere and I wanna know what it feels like to follow up the hit album

with another hit, but now, I'm not gonna lie to you guys, I'm nervous about it and I feel like it has to be a really artistic endeavor, so it might be a minute before I come back with what I'm hoping will be my magnum. You're acting like this is a debut album. It's like your 17th album, are you finally? That's what it takes, man.

REM, it took years and years and years and years for REM and then one night they become an overnight success. And they say, it takes 10 years to become an overnight success. You're just like REM. It's bigger. That's what I've long said. You don't deserve this mental anguish. You really should just stop.

It's ego. I think you accept the success and just don't put yourself through it. The people need more. They've been asking for it. They've really told me that this is something that's made them feel better. And it's something that I'm proud of. But I think you need to worry about you, not them so much.

I'm not a selfish guy. I might be conceited, but I'm not selfish. This is wild Billy Wednesday, and I need you to take control of the situation here, Billy. Yes, I need some governance over what's happening here Where Jeremy feels the need to give an acceptance speech when he gets some applause around here I need you to to help him with culture one applause for three and a half years

I think I can you live in this one tell Billy how really Billy we need you to bring him back down to earth That's what we need. No. I'm telling I'm worried about his Do to him every day to lasso lasso him down from the clouds and pull him back down here Really you want me also talking about joining the Marlins TV broadcast or what was that a reward? That's something yeah for the songs That part is good. Yes, congratulations. We are happy for you. Good week.

That is a real metal arc victory there that you can, that you can, Scab? Scab? Well, I mean, I'm just saying, I saw how things seemed to go hard and then all of a sudden, Jeremy just slides in. It's not how it went down. You jerk.

Scab. Why are you doing this? He's doing it because we gave him the last hope. Justice for Jessica. Blade lock. Wow. Scab. You jerk. Scab. Why are you doing this? He's doing it because we gave him the last. Justice for Jessica. Play luck. Wow. Scab. You jerk.

This right here is Scott Stapp playing, this looks just like the Creed singer when he was young. Does it not? Zybras. Wow, we're really gonna play this, huh? I think there's probably copyright issues. I wanted to talk about a couple of things that made an appearance yesterday that delighted me.

One of them was the return of Rich Rodriguez holding us while being the West Virginia coach. It was just delightful to see him back there again and then saying that his players can no longer dance on TikTok. He has forbidden it. Dan, I read that story and I swear to God, I checked the date. I said, wait a second, did they have TikTok in 2007?

And then I realized, oh, this is current. This is right now. You thought, you didn't know he was the West Virginia coach. You thought this was some like old aggregated story. Yeah, I didn't know he came back. Yes, it's wonderful. And somebody else came back yesterday in a similar way where you, Jim Beheim, you gotta understand

that this person, Jim Beheim, when he won a championship with Carmelo Anthony, solidified himself as a legendary coach in the sport but they couldn't reign him in and this has been the case for a couple of years with Bayheim like Bayheim was on the loose with a lot drunk with power the last couple of years at Syracuse holding on to a legacy that almost refused to be tarnished but listen to Jim Bayheim on a broadcast and the broadcasters trying to reel him in and can't.

Observing, observing Ramadan. I love it. And a brief, looked like a brief prayer there for a moment. I love it. The commitment this young man has made is amazing. And to be able to do what he's done, not just tonight, but also you go back to Saturday and poor overtime game, doesn't have any fluid until the third overtime. You've really got to take your hat off to a young man that that's committed. Eight o'clock, it's eight o'clock in Iceland. Our president says we're going to own that country anyway so we can we can make that. How did we get there? Let's talk about this. Marisasoko has earned.

So Marisasoko, the player they're talking about for Cal is fasting for Ramadan right and this is during conference tournament time for them a pretty important time and but he's observing, and so that means he breaks his fast in the middle of these games, and you heard the announcer talk about there was a triple overtime game, and he didn't get to break it until late in that game.

And this isn't the norm, right, in terms of American sports. It's a norm among Muslim athletes, but it's not the norm of American sports, and I think when people, most people are presented with the, hey, this guy's however well you think he's playing, he's doing this and he hadn't had anything to eat or drink all day,

not even water. That simple water right there, that's his first fluid of the day since before sunup. And Jim Bayheim, who is a legend then, and a great coach, and coached a lot of great people. But rather than absorb that information in that moment, he goes to this weird ass joke where it's like, it's eight o'clock somewhere, basically,

it's five o'clock somewhere, happy hour thing. And as if that wasn't enough, I'm gonna lump in some dumb ass rhetoric that- You have the wrong country. Yeah, it's the wrong country. As Iceland. Yeah, it's Greenland, not Iceland. And then also, even if he got it right, it's some dumb ass rhetoric.

Well, not surprising, right, that a caveman from another time would have very little connection to Ramadan. But I want to, as someone who is fasting and as someone who's fascinated in me by athletes trying to do this with religious rigor, I don't think of you as a spiritual person. I think of you as generally somebody who is a bit of a cynic about God. And so where you partake in the disciplines of, what are you doing? What do you, you don't think, you think of yourself- I was very in it about God? You're trying to get me sent to hell

and the holiest stuff on the calendar? Very strong take right there. I mean, you hate God, right? I, I, I- He called me Catholic to my core once. I have never forgotten that. So you love God too much and I mean, hates God. Where's the middle?

Who loves God just enough around these parts? Down the middle, Chris. Here I am. Lewis? Excellent loves God just enough around these parts? Down the middle, Chris. Here I am. Lewis? Excellent, Billy. God, he locks over there. Lewis, Wild Billy Wednesday. Lewis is what he says.

Just inside and top of inside on top of inside. I do want that music to introduce him on Wednesdays. Like I want Wednesdays. This is one of the most iconic sounds anywhere in the history of sound right here. Look at Billy delighted, because he threw the show to Lewis. Oh no, I'm worried we're gonna get flagged

on YouTube for playing that sound. I about say like how much of that can we play? Ramadan, you being someone who is strict and disciplined about this means that this means something to you deeply. It does, but also, Dan, like I said, it's rare, but it's not the first occurrence. It happens every year, obviously, and every year there are athletes

and we talk about some of them, we don't talk about others. And so I don't think this is Jim Bayheim's, or should not be Jim Bayheim's first encounter with this concept. Hakeem Elijah won NBA Player of the Month one year while fasting in Ramadan. His numbers got better while fasting during Ramadan. He was a better athlete. He says, I think I'm better when I'm fasting because I'm more focused. So this isn't like the first time we ever heard of anything

and again Jim Behaim is a guy in basketball. So for this to be the first time, I mean Kireen last year, when he hit that left-handed floater to win a game, remember when Dallas was good, wow, that was why he was fasting. And so these are not stories that should be arriving, no matter how old Jim Bayheim is, for someone who's in basketball, it should not be arriving on a short for the first time.

And yet it's also not as commonplace enough so you can make jokes, dumb jokes about it, instead of saying, wait a second, this guy is playing like this without the aid of regular sustenance? It staggered me that there was no part of him, just as a basketball coach, that was appreciative of the effort that was being played there. The part of no water is the part that is hard to get my head around trying to play basketball in a weakened state where you're, I don't know, like, I don't know what the effects are on the body,

but I imagine that they're cruel. It's just amazing. You would think Bayheim is just a guy who's an old school gamer would just appreciate everything that that is and that he would be someone accenting. This is so impressive because he's seen how many legendary players go through moments of trial and tribulation and tournaments and all of these moments and then not come up with performances like this. The fact that this guy was doing it while fasting

is amazing, you'd think he'd appreciate it. Not to justify what he said, but apparently this was like he had done multiple games in this night, so this is an old man delirious. This is Greg Cody at the end of the show. He called the Notre Dame pick game earlier in the day and then he was on the call for this one. Iceland, 8 p.m., what time is it? How old is Bayheim at this point?

Because maybe we do grandfather him in on just, ah, let grandpa just talk, let it unspool, see where we end up. What time is it in Iceland? Dan, I'm gonna tell you right now, if anyone else had made that argument, I would have been like, no, no, no, no. But the fact that it was Chris, and then Greg's face

popped into my head, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, good point. Never mind. How do we feel, though, about Rich Rodriguez telling his players, no more TikTok dancing? It doesn't represent the things that we are. I think it's stupid. Jessica, not no more TikTok. No more dancing. No more TikTok dancing. He's like the town, no more TikTok. No more dancing.

No more TikTok dancing. He's like the town in Footloose. No dancing. You guys can do lip sync videos, I guess, but you can't dance. He's Jerry Orbach. You can do get ready with me videos. You can do makeup tutorials. What's for lunch?

You can do what's for lunch. What's for lunch? Dancing on TikTok, every football team does these. Basketball teams do them. They're so innocuous there It's not like this is like a massive distraction modern-day bonding I kind of am like giving this a little bit of side. I where I'm like why? Dancing though, but the crazy thing is he's not even talked about as it being a distraction because he made clear

You're not banned off of social media have at it guys scroll scroll doom to do scroll to the end of time But he said quote I'm just banning them from dancing look we try to have a hard edge Whatever and you're out there and your tights dancing on tik-tok. Oh, it ain't quite the image of our program that I want But I thought they were ringing. Hold on. He goes on to say this is my favorite This is my favorite part Like I said 30 years or not They want to be sitting in their pajamas in the basement

eating Cheetos and watching TikTok or whatever the hell they can go at it. Smoking, cannabis, whatever, knock yourself out. But hopefully their focus can be on winning football games. How about let's win the football game and not win the TikTok. The TikTok. There's so much good in there.

You don't just win the conference USA as a Jacksonville State Gamecocks by dancing on TikTok. There's so much good in there. You don't just win the conference USA as a Jacksonville State Gamecocks by dancing on TikTok. Which is exactly what he did defending champion, CUSA 2024. Jessica, I don't think that's major side eye. I think that major has been promoted to at least general. I can give him eye contact and be like, what do you mean by tights?

Did he say the marijuana? Smoking cannabis. Oh, cannabis. Smoking cannabis. Not cannabis. Smoking cannabis. Not doobies though. Well this is, there is a formality to saying smoking cannabis and I don't know why Jeremy said bells are a-ringing.

Oh because he was being homophobic. I felt like Christmas carol-y. I was just ringing the this is homophobic bell. Okay bells are a-ringing is the way you chose to say that. Bells are a-ringing, which was also pretty gay. Okay, bells are a-ringing. The thing that stunned me in all of this is Jessica making a Footloose reference

because I did not believe that a movie with Kevin Bacon, Jerry Orbach too, right? Letting off steam by going to dance in a warehouse, a time I longed for. Do you long for, put it on the poll at LeBataille Show, do you long for the day when people blew off steam by dancing at a warehouse? I did not know that Footloose resonated today in any way.

Dan, were you a Footloose or a dirty dancing person? Cause in the 80s guys, I don't know if you know this, in the 80s you had to pick one, you could not have both. I feel like, wasn't dirty dancing a little later than Footloose or a Dirty Dancing person? Because in the 80s, guys, I don't know if you know this, in the 80s you had to pick one. You could not have both. I feel like, wasn't Dirty Dancing a little later than Footloose? I felt like Footloose was the ground breaker on we're gonna dance like white people all over the place

and then all of a sudden, yeah, Footloose was a different time. Three years apart. 87, Dirty Dancing. Footloose was 1984. I think of Footloose as an ancient movie and an ancient movie that there's no way, like Dirty Dancing. And Footloose was 1984. I think of Footloose as an ancient movie, and an ancient movie that there's no way, like Dirty Dancing might hold up,

there's no way Footloose holds up. I feel like I can't win. If I make a reference that's too current, it goes over everyone's head. If I make a reference from the 80s, it's like, how do you know that? If I talk about Colombo, I'm an old person now. This is you winning.

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Stugats! Certainly not from your lovely grandfather, God in man, so rest in peace. This is the Don Lebatard Show, with the Stugarts. ["The Stugarts"] I saw a story that Kevin Bacon apparently, I don't know if this was like butt-cracked or whatever, I saw this at like two in the morning the other night, ball sack, or Butt Crack. Kevin Megan doesn't want them to play this Footloose song at weddings that he goes to,

so he asked the DJ not to play it. I hope it's true because I'm doing a Dan right now where I'm like, I saw a thing and I did zero verification. But that makes me so sad that they're just like, people just circle him when they play the song from Footloose and they're like, do a dance. So Jessica, I'm delighted because my first reaction just like, people just circle him when they play the song from Footloose and they're like, do a dance. So Jessica, I'm delighted because my first reaction was like,

he's going to weddings like that he was invited to and it's not his wedding and he's telling the DJ what to play, what not to play, what a jerk. And then I remembered, I went to Mo'Dak Hill's wedding last summer in Hawaii and the DJ was awful and at one point I said, look around, everyone here is over the age of 35, just played 90s R&B in early 2000s and you're gonna win every single thing.

And he looked at me and said, you got it. And by the time I walked back to the dance floor, he played Not Like Us. I was like, you asshole. What are you doing, man? This is a family event, what are you doing? I don't wanna hear about pedophiles at a wedding. Just crushing Moe's DJ.

Yes. He deserved to be crushed. Have you told Moe this? Yeah, I podcasted about pedophiles at a wedding. Just crushing Moe's DJ. Yes. He deserved to be crushed. Have you told Moe this? I podcasted about it with him. Oh, no. OK, wait. I found the story in Entertainment Weekly.

Apparently, Kevin Bacon revealed at South by Southwest. Do you guys remember me at South by Southwest? It's like the four year anniversary. Three year anniversary of that? The Four Seasons anniversary. They always start out about being about the bride, and then there's alcohol involved, Bacon said. And by about 1030

The song comes on and suddenly the wedding becomes about me getting out and dancing people literally form a circle around me and clap Their hands like I'm a train monkey That's brutal So what a rough life. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry Kevin Bacon people recognize you from that one thing Oh, maybe we should remember him for a hollow man Wow, I feel like I associate of separation from Kevin Bacon and then Footloose.

This would be like me being like, hey don't do word combos to me. Wait a minute. At a wedding. You were really disrespectful to Kevin Bacon there while just dismissing him by slapping him across the face with a Hollow Man. I mean he made that movie, I didn't make it.

I saw it though. Kevin Bacon has had a distinguished career. You're dismissing a dis Kevin Bacon who would wait a minute What are you saying that for Kevin? You don't believe Kevin Bacon would be an all-star if he were in the NBA no as a basketball player No, the air up there ever seen that one Dribbles looking at the ball bouncing up and down you don't believe that Kevin Bacon's career would be all-star game worthy I think he's like you don't as haslam. He'll get like his jersey retired by one team, but not a whole thing Not even what team would retire Jersey one movie that movie is the Jamal McGlory movies

I mean kind of disagree on IMDb. It says known for and it's Footloose I mean. I kinda disagree. Wow. On IMDB it says known for and it's Footloose, Hollowman, The Woodsman, Mystic River. Hollowman was the second thing on his call sheet, man. Yes, Jamal McGlore. One all-star game.

Yes. You give Kevin Bacon one all-star game that everyone questioned because he scored 12 points a game. You guys back me up on this. Who do you have him being? He's obviously, he's got, you know know what you think that he's demolition man He's not let's get a couple players to compare and put it on the camera is Kevin bacon

Bacon Kevin bacon has had a career here that has resonated for four decades Yeah, you know now that I look at it like he's in all of these massive movies But he's not the lead like he's he's in like the mama glory But he's in a few good men the Chris Bosh Yeah, but he's not Tom Cruise or Jack Nicholos. This Bosh had his own team his own franchise where he was an all-star And then wanted to go be a smaller piece. He's like Clint Howard Clint Howard's a good name Clint Howard's a real good name a lot of stuff. He's had a great career. Great career. Working actor. Gets in a lot of movies.

He's in JFK. Sure. Apollo 13. Sure. He played on a lot of great teams. Yeah. So he's Kenny Smith? No. Kenny Smith played for one great team. Shane Badier? No. Shane's too good. Because Shane was great in college. Yeah, Shane's too good. I've got to think about something. It's got to be someone like Jimmy James. Shane's too good? James Posey. Shane never made it in the All-Star Game. James Jones.

James. James Jones, that's who he is. He's the James Jones. Long career, championships with some great teams. Kevin Bacon has to be considered somebody as a name in the movies and television that you associate with being in good things. Nah, I mean name recognition.

He's got a good name. Yeah, Bacon. It's like, James Jones is a good one because it's also like, James Jones went to multiple All-Star Weekends in the three-point contest, but not All-Star Games. Billy brings up a good point, though. I don't know if Kevin Bacon's is famous

if his name is Kevin Jones. But by the way. Kevin Sausage. A great James Jones tidbit, right? So James Jones, obviously he's the GM of the Suns. And I have friends who worked for the Suns when he first started, well not when he first started, but like earlier in his career.

And they were like, oh yeah, we call him Champ. And I said, you call him Champ? I said, yeah, he said that's what his nickname is. You guys know why he's nicknamed Champ, right? And everyone who worked for the Sun started because one championship in Miami, one championship in Cleveland. And I said, no, his nickname is Champ

because when he was in Miami, he won the three point shootout at All-Star weekend and everyone in Miami started calling him a champ. But he basically went to Phoenix and just said, yeah, champ, and didn't clarify what the champ was. But why would you? If your nickname was champ,

you gotta go with the better champ there. Champ's like one of the most condescending nicknames, right, it's like buddy, like you call someone buddy, it's like not great, if you call someone champ, then you don't wanna be called champ. I'm gonna do a top five condescending nicknames. Well, but unless you've actually won the heavyweight title and they're calling you Muhammad Ali,

they're calling you champ after you've played, right? Or after your career is over. Chris has a good question that I think we need to explore a little further. I'm wondering what other breakfast food he could have as a name that would also have a good career as an actor. So like instead of Kevin Bacon

He's Kevin. I don't think we'll beat Kevin Bacon. I'm asking Question Kevin omelet would be good Kevin waffles. Kevin omelet is really good Kevin waffles has to be a comedian though, or he does like kids shows. It's a singular walk. All right, let's give a Clown that's a zaning clown yeah for sure kids clown Kevin Dutch, baby Kevin corned beef and hash we're workshopping all right keep working keep working on that We can we could circle back around at any point by the way selling like hot cakes you guys want to give me some hot cakes? information

That's a hall of Famer. Kevin Grit. That's a cool one. It doesn't have to be Grits, right? Yeah, but I'm just... Just one. Just a single... To me the name is more powerful. Yeah, the sequel is Kevin Grits. Then I've got a top five condescending nicknames. Alright, number five, Buddy. Number Number five buddy Number four pal Number three champ Number two sport And number one chief I Was thinking buddy had to be number one, but she had less chief man chief alright chief. Yep. You say chief. It's automatic but that's a good list. Chief, man.

Chief, all right, Chief. You say Chief, it's automatic. Relax, buddy. I think buddy might, ugh. I like buddy and chief. Chief is excellent. And chief is excellent for a number of reasons, including anyone who's using it, jackass.

Did you say champ? Champ, yeah. That's like what a stepdad calls a kid. Champ's never used. Never used condescendingly? Is it? All the time. To me, it's like, hey, good job, like Champ's never used. Never used condescendingly? Is it? All the time. To me it's like, hey, good job Champ.

Yeah, exactly. Like stepfather, like genuinely talking to a young kid. I'll take it from here, Champ. Kevin Parfait. Kevin Danish. Kevin yogurt would, Kevin yogurt. Kevin croissant. Kevin croissant.

I wouldn't like that, no. Kevin oatmeal. Yeah, we're just naming breakfast foods. Kevin cheetaron. Kevin pop tarts. Kevin Ashbrowns. Yeah, we're just naming breakfast foods. Kevin chicharron. Kevin pop tarts. Kevin ashrounds. Yeah, Kevin kale smoothie. Yeah, just keep going.

Kevin Lucky Charms. Kevin kale. Yeah, yeah, just go ahead and keep going. Kevin ham. Yes, go ahead. What if he's just a different meat? Oh, that's a real... Related to John Ham?

No, Kevin sausage is good. Kevin sticky bun. Billy's initial Kevin sausage. Kevin guanciale. Kevin syrup. You guys are, I think you're right. You have revealed a bias to me that I am elevating the career of Kevin Bacon

because I just like bacon. Kevin bottomless mimosas. And the cheekbones. He's got great cheekbones. Kevin frittata. Natural or what do we think? Yeah. Really? I think natural. Ozempic.

I mean, I wanted to get your thoughts here as the host of Oddball and somebody who hasn't I have not heard your thoughts and beef on Stephen a and LeBron's confrontation Stephen a has gone on gills arena podcast and he says now Because this is the tone that is a bit different than the apologetic one and all of its content and all of it is good for everybody I would say except for Bronnie. Except for Bronnie this is good for, I think LeBron buys himself something with being a

father in this situation and defending his son but now Stephen A has escalated during a slow content week he's saying I thought it was weak what LeBron did at the Lakers game confronting him I thought it was some bullshit but in the moment I knew that I was listening to a father end quote he also says that he remembers looking during a timeout in the first corner he saw Bronnie looking at him and he saw a sad look on his, and he's imagining that LeBron saw that, and that that shit hit him, end quote. So now he's interpreting Bronte's face.

So, Dan, you missed Friday's show. We were live when Stephen A. Smith tweeted the original, hey, I didn't want to talk about this, but since it went viral, I have no choice but to address it on first take. We even sent Tony out into the hall out here the original, hey, I didn't want to talk about this, but since it went viral, I have no choice, but to address it on first take. We even sent Tony out into the hall out here to be our correspondent, come back with the quotes.

I reread the quotes in Stephen A. Smith's voice, and we were all staggered. Based on that setup, we thought, oh, he's coming with the fire, he's coming with the flamethrower. He was so weepy and apologetic. It's the Stephen A. Smith voice when he goes real quiet and real sad.

And so I thought to myself, I said, wow, this must have hit him harder, I guess. And then he goes on Gil's Arena, not his show, because he did first take and then later on he did the Stephen A. Smith show. He didn't do any of this over there on the shows that he owns. He goes on Gil's show, and now he's talking all this

Wow cast up like I just I'm disappointed Not just in you this week But I'm disappointed in him because that's what I wanted on his show as opposed to going and outsourcing it to a place where I guess Chaos rules a little bit more freely that show gilzer, has become popular and they've been waiting for Stephen A to make this appearance. You guys are, you've told me before that you get a little tired of me talking about this, but I am fascinated by our business and he's climbed to the top of it, evolving better than most, at least in part because he can keep pushing the

envelope into places where he is now in all of the power settings and he can be the news while he's in the middle of it and as you said can't go to a movie theater because his kind of fame they should call it a SPN right now they should just as part of the new contract negotiations just rename it a espion right now they should just uh... it as part of the new contract negotiations just rename it a espion but pronounce it espion espion steven espion just espion because he has gotten more and more power and uh... now

make the news and create content for a whole bunch of people during the week by having a confrontation that he's rewarded from when LeBron gets so agitated with don't tell me how to be a father on television because people are doing people are doing something reductive here with this where they're just saying what do you mean we can't we can't criticize Bronnie it ain't that it's absolutely don't tell me how to be a father on television. It took me the weekend to figure that out. That LeBron wasn't upset that he was criticizing Brawny. LeBron was upset that he was criticizing LeBron as a father.

Which is like, oh, okay, now I see that. Now I see that. But the whole, I looked over at Brawny and saw how sad he was. Come on, man. Come on. That's, you know what? It's hilarious, it's hilarious because he's sitting baseline cat-a-corner from the bench and the idea that like, Stephen A. Smith,

he's with R.E. Emanuel over here and he's over here with Larry David and like, okay, we're at Lakers Nix, and he looks over and he just sees Brawny doing this. Oh. It's like, oh he just sees Bronnie doing this. It's like, oh. Kevin Blueberries. Blueberries! And then LeBron, who's warming up and stretching,

and then he looks over and he says, what's wrong with Bronnie? Why's Bronnie doing that? And he looks at Bronnie, and that's another one of those deep sighs. That's what kids do, by the way. Billy, your kid's gonna get to this age soon. Chris, yours might be at this age where,

they don't, they think like, oh, I won't actually ask. Hey man, can we go out for ice cream? I'll just go, hmm. So dad'll say, what's wrong with, just wish we could have something like ice cream. I'm like, well, I wish someone would just ask it straight up instead of deep sighing. So Bronnie's deep sighing, LeBron's like,

all right, I'm not gonna ask. But then he sees which way Bronnie's looking. That's Steve, that's Steven. That Larry David next to him? That's Steven, I'm gonna go save him right now. And then he walks up to him and in Steven A's mind, that's how it all went. Do you guys find funny that Shannon Sharp

is trying to fight the Grizzlies courtside? Like that the media's climbing into this space in a way that is cartoonishly beyond wherever Howard Cosell was, as the lead broadcaster and face for media and media company. Do you guys find that interesting or not so much? Just bored by it? Personally, I kind of hate it.

You gotta fight someone, Jeremy. Yeah. A fist fight on the sidelines of the Marlins games? Jessica would have that's right She would have you guys don't even realize the Molotov cocktail that Billy is throwing my way with that one He is an anarchist Kevin Colich a ooh, that's a good one Now that's that's a star. I do the opposite of what you were saying kids do like I'm like I if I want ice cream I go Graceland go tell mommy we should get ice cream.

That's smart. That doesn't work. It's multiple steps ahead. Sometimes I get caught. We were walking out of a restaurant the other day and there was a Cold Stones right there, so I'm tapping my daughter. I'm like, and my wife looks back and sees me

pointing at the Cold Stones, like, tell mommy we should go. And I'm just like, oh, I was looking and I was stretching my arm. Can't you just go? It was a school night, it was past 8.30. My wife has this thing past 8.30. Did you still have homework to do, Chris?

No, but my daughter needs to go to sleep by nine. What's your wife's thing about 8.30? 8.30, she wants us to be like, we can't go get ice cream at 8.30 on a school night. Like, 8.30, we either need to be out of the restaurant. If we're going out to eat on a school night, we need to be out by 8.30, is the rule. Chris, the funny thing is you said sometimes you get caught

and I thought it was because your kid would mess up and say, Dad wants it, and no, your kid is actually great at this. No, no, I ever trained, yeah, yeah, yeah, she knows. She knows to cover me. You're the one who's messing up. When I see family patterns developed in that household, like you understand that she is telling Chris Cody as if he were a toddler not after 830 oh it's the Graceland she says that

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