The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Limited Fake Stephen A. Smith Runs For President

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

How did everything go last night at what our show is lovingly referring to as "The Last Dans?" We check in on the action out in New Orleans. Then, what movie is Daniel Stern most known for? Also, we c...heck in with limited fake Barack Obama and limited fake Stephen A. Smith to hear what they have to say about the news that Stephen A. is polling at 2% for the Democratic Presidential Nominee in 2028. Plus, Pablo and David dive into one of the latest Executive Orders from the Trump Administration banning transgender athletes from participating in sports. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:50 Additional terms apply. Learn more at wealthsimple.com slash match. This is the Dan Lebertor Show with the Stukats Podcast. So Dan versus Dan was last night? Or Dan versus Dan was last night? Or Dan and Dan? I've been seeing photos. The last Dan's. Whoever wins, we lose, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:13 That's the tagline? That's what the Alien vs Predator movie poster used to say. Also applies here, potentially. It went great. Why are you... Did it? Yes. Did you watch it? I was getting reports the whole night. Oh, from who? From people on the ground. Oh.
Starting point is 00:02:27 There are a lot, there are photos of the crowds, the crowd size guys, very big. That's Dan and Dan. There it is. Dan's melting into the chair with that brown jacket. The only negative is that we had people in place, and I think that all of you will appreciate this more than I did.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Dan showed up pretty much just to get on stage. Dan Patrick or Dan Lebatard? There was no green room situation, there was no prep, there was no anything. No mingle? He just, he, no nothing. Now, after the show, he did major meet and greets,
Starting point is 00:03:00 major VIP stuff. Okay, all right. No, no, no, but when you're on tour for a show, he did a full, even Springsteen, Mick Jagger. You're getting there early, you're sort of getting set up. Dan went, car, stage. That photo is just hilarious. I can't tell where the chair ends and Dan starts.
Starting point is 00:03:19 It's just his head popping out of a chair. I was just trying to think if that's the outfit he wore to do the show on Tuesday, that he recycled again for Wednesday. But it actually went great. It was sold out. There were a ton of people who got to spend time with Dan after the show.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Which was Dan, or Dan. Our Dan loves taking photos with the people. Well the people love to be with him? Not really, he doesn't love it. It's just a way to get out of whatever situation he's in. Come take a photo, okay, now leave. He doesn't have to talk that way.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Oh, is he? I think he actually loves being with people. He would rather have 1,000 small talk conversations than one conversation. He feels the gratification from the fans. No, it's legitimate. Like, at Moss every year, he does well he's just listen to think Dan is genuinely appreciative of love and support but also Dan is the anti-amine I mean we'll go give someone 15 minutes of
Starting point is 00:04:16 show if it behooves him right Dan is like I don't want to do any show that's why the photo is such a great opportunity it's I gave you the most meaningful interaction possible that also cost me nothing. Dan will do show with them, but it'll be South Beach Sessions, and he'll be like, when have you cried last? Are you in a happy place when you listen?
Starting point is 00:04:35 He really wants to get in there. Do we know what they talked about? I just know that... I like how the one thing we need reporting on is our own companies. Which we don't have clips on for some reason. I could tell you what Kevin Durant is thinking this whole time, but I can't tell you what happened.
Starting point is 00:04:51 You're allowed to talk about that? David was mad that we hadn't said the word Super Bowl. No, Pete Alonzo's actually what he was mad about. Well, I was upset about both because it's Thursday and I was picturing Adam Silver doing the Snoopy dance because Roger Goodell is on the back burner. There's shows and we're sort of looking, it's been 40 minutes or 84 minutes
Starting point is 00:05:12 and there are other shows just getting to Super Bowl now having started with Jimmy and the Warriors. I'm just gonna read the Chiron first take. What will the Super Bowl come down to? This is my favorite thing because I saw someone tweeted at us either yesterday or early this morning saying Please don't spend the show talking about Jimmy Butler and the Lakers trades and all that stuff
Starting point is 00:05:30 It's Super Bowl week and I said the operative part of the word news is new What's new Super Bowl if you tell me right now something we didn't know about the Eagles or the Chiefs that we've learned in the last 24 40 hours. I'm Pleased to have that conversation. If it's just who's gonna win? The Chiefs have no injuries. That's new? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:49 There's no one on the report. Okay. It's pretty amazing. That's what it's coming down to. That's big news. All right. Okay, they're not hurt. What I would like to...
Starting point is 00:05:58 And we covered it. What I would like to tell the NFL in this moment is, you gotta earn it. Earn it! out compete. Eugene Robinson, go out there, get arrested doing something. Lee don't wanna earn. I'm just saying, I'm happy to not talk about the heat, trust me, but the NFL, so far Dan looking like a couch
Starting point is 00:06:18 is the number one story coming out of New Orleans. That's a pretty good story, look at that. Look at that picture. It's like that Always Sunny where, you know, Danny DeVito's climbing out. He's all greased up. If he had gotten there earlier, we would have changed out the chair or his pants. Can we do that?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Oh, you can do anything with time. Or money. Well, always. I have a couple of questions. What decade do you have to be from to know what the Snoopy dance is? Also Pablo, why do you think that people think you're a food delivery person?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Hmm, ah. Do you not see how he dresses like a schlep? Oh, that's why. That's why, okay. This member's only windbreaker. He's got. That's schleppy? The onset of a potential punch for someone of his young age.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I do have a punch. His hair's always messed up. That's a punch. I do have early onset punch. It's her Punch was a cop on this television show called chips That's not true. Oh, it's Erica strata. Yeah, these things growing in Erica strata Yes, but it's all but but it passes as Italian for some reason We're doing a show for Greg Cody only, right?
Starting point is 00:07:25 And he always walks around with bags. So Pablo's like got stuff and it's not organized, it's not like a briefcase. And walking around with food. I'm busy finding out stuff, sorry. Well he walks around the city and he's sort of collecting food and bags and then I picture walking into a lobby
Starting point is 00:07:42 and being stopped like you're heading into Tiffany with the trophy. Like people look at you and you're like, what apartment's that for? I picture you walking into Tiffany's and then thinking, where's the tall one from The Wet Bandits? Daniel Stern. We're looking for Daniel Stern because.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Right. Yeah. More of a Joe Pesci guy than Daniel Stern. You just referred to the home alone robbers by their gang name. The Wet Dandits. Is that how Daniel Stern is known? Number one, yes. Home Alone by far.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yes. More so than City Slickers? Not Bushwacked. Or Rookie of the Year. Rookie of the Year for me, man. I'm just glad we got Roy in here. Roy got lured out with... Hot ice! Celtic Proy. Heat up the ice cubes! that's a mess of a world
Starting point is 00:08:26 you know what it might be rookie of the year home alone are you you guys are hot it's a better role though that rookie of the year role is fantastic this is this is like what's Arnold Schwarzenegger known for and you got to like jingle all the way no what
Starting point is 00:08:42 but remember when he gets stuck between the doors knocking on the doors of the hotel room And then he stepped on a nail with no shoe I mean I mean got some Obama in his paint can't him in the face just then a paint can hit him in the face Now that's SNL. You just you just learned that I do a really good job. No, but I hadn't heard it in person before. Can we get to Stephen A. being a Democratic candidate for president as Barack Obama has learned the news?
Starting point is 00:09:14 Got a couple presidents in here too if you need them. Let me be clear. When I heard the news that Stephen A. Smith decided that he should run for office, I said that's a great American. Now some folks across the aisle don't like that. They want Skip Bayless to be the nominee. But I told my family, Sasha, Michelle, Malia, that Stephen A would make a fine candidate. Now Stephen A, wait, hold on. Joe Joe what does your agree with me listen man He's got it. He's got real pizzazz. I like him Now Joe now Stephen a hands every time right from Scranton
Starting point is 00:09:58 It's the haze in the losing breath As soon as he starts talking what is What does Donald Trump believe about Stephen A? Who does a good Trump here? I don't, I've tried and I realize I can't do a good Trump. He talks sports, all right, he talks a little bit and he doesn't do it well, okay? He talks way too much if you ask me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:17 That's not terrible either. I mean. It's the only option we got. This is, this is. Not terrible is a real binary equation you're giving approval to. No, we didn't do the lips part. You gotta do the lips.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You have to have the flair. And the fingers. A lot of fingers. You know who does a really good trump? Brad Williams. Brad Williams does a really good trump because he does the hand movements really well. God, there are a lot of people who do good trumps.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Godfrey does a good trump. There's a lot of trumps. Our buddy Josh Rosen obviously does a good job a lot of there's a lot of our buddy Josh Rosen obviously does a great Trump. He actually makes money. It has a Trump impersonator Which money does he make enough to pay his bills? Yeah, you know this you've seen the w-2 I've seen Josh Rosen and I've seen him play you get the w-2 Not getting benefits on this shit and Brad Williams and Donald Trump same-size-hands It's true nice
Starting point is 00:11:11 Well done Roy, but but guys You guys aren't talking about the real president We're talking about 2028 baby 2% Stephen a is polling in this one. What's the plus or minus? What's the margin of, I'm blanking someone, please help me. Margin of error?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Margin of error. What's the margin of error on that poll? Two. Please tell me it's more than 2%. This is unclear to me. I'll give you some of the details. It's a McLaughlin and Associates poll. And, oh God, Kamala Harris is still leading the pack, 33%.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Pete Buttigieg, 9%, Gavin Newsom, 7%, Stephen A. Smith, 2%. I've often said that if the fires happened on my watch, they would have been put out immediately, because the fires don't want to make an enemy out of me. Do we really see him as a Democrat because he said that he was no. Years ago. Is he's we heard that from us.
Starting point is 00:12:10 You certainly can't come out as a Republican running for 28 at the moment, because the thought is that there's going to be a third term in there. Right. Is that is that now are we talking? Is that where we're at? Well, that's not where I'm at, but that's been defined the Constitution. Yeah, classic. Oh, please. been- Defying the Constitution, yeah. Classic. Oh, please.
Starting point is 00:12:27 We're not in the last four years. Definitely didn't try to warn you guys. Steven A. Smith, I just want to tell you, picturing him at a debate, a presidential debate, thinking that he's doing one of his shows on ESPN. David, he- That's all it is now. State of the Union?
Starting point is 00:12:43 That's what Trump did at the debates. He just turned it into a- That's all it is.. That's what Trump did at the debates. Yeah. Turned it into a, like a. That's all it is. That's a reality show. I can't. You want to tell him to be about taxes? Come on. Let me tell you something about taxes. I'll trade them.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And then never actually say anything about taxes. No, because all he's got to do is just name out the resume of taxes. Now we've had taxes since Eisenhower. He had them at 90%. We dropped them. just name out the resume of taxes. Now we've had taxes since Eisenhower. He had them at 90%. We dropped them. And they've been very, very beneficial. Roads, schools.
Starting point is 00:13:13 He'd be almost the richest president. Almost the richest president? Yeah, almost. For real? I mean, he's about to sign and become the highest paid employee at ESPN. He'd have more money. He's not already?
Starting point is 00:13:24 In theory, than even Trump himself. Maybe I'll take his spot at ESPN, he'd have more money. He's not already? In theory, then even Trump himself. Maybe I'll take his spot at ESPN. Oh my God, that first time he signed with CAA. He did just sign with a major Hollywood talent agency. Yes he did, they did a whole announcement about it. The Speaker Series, now you can make a lot of money. There's a lot of 1099 Obama, ooh, cashing in on the poll.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Bill was cleaning up on that circuit. You make appearances when you've been president. Some people write, some people I'm reliably informed write books to go on the speaker circuit. Of course. Like that's the actual game. Uh, did not write that book. Have you met Stu Gotts? You mean he's gonna go on a liar circuit? No, he's just gonna cancel. He's gonna make, make appearances and then cancel. By the way, I got a report from New Orleans here. Everyone at Super Bowl week talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me straighten up my chair.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Does anybody do a George W. or George H. Bush impression? You work on that while I give you this update from New Orleans. Stu was looking for another Stu to do a competing Stu versus Stu show. He put out an ask for Stu Finer. Oh my God. There it is, our New Orleans update.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Is that news? It is. Is that Super Bowl news, because it's new? Well, it's new and it came from New Orleans. And who's the source of that? I can't reveal my source. Can we talk a bit about the thing that we saw at the White House yesterday?
Starting point is 00:14:41 I didn't see anything at the White House. I wanna show you, actually. I wanna show you a clip that caught my eye. If we can play, play something that Chris Cody is very cleverly, there it is, very good, and play. And Tommy Tuberville, a great coach. You know his quarterback was named Mahomes. He was a great college coach. And I said, how good was he?
Starting point is 00:15:10 He said, you don't want to know how good. He made me into a great coach. He's pretty good quarterback, right? Yeah, he was really good. He's a good guy too. I just want to be very clear about this. This is not a political take. Donald Trump does not know ball. Donald Trump does not know sports.
Starting point is 00:15:28 He's around sports. He has spent money on sports. He shakes hands with people who play sports. He has no idea what anything is. Do you believe that someone writes that speech? No. No, that's him. That's him winging it. They do write speeches for him. He wings it though. That is him looking at Senator Tommy Tuberville and saying, you're the guy who coached Patrick Mahomes famously, we all know that. How come no one in the background noticed that it was wrong?
Starting point is 00:15:53 No one sets up a sound after we've listened to it better than Pablo. Hold on, let me just point something out. You said, you said. And play. Nobody like corrected him. How about Tommy Tuberville didn Didn't correct him. He said he's a pretty good player. He said, very good. Tommy Tuber went with it. Yeah, I coached
Starting point is 00:16:10 him in 2012 when I was at Texas Tech. You gonna correct the president and that? This is why I bring it up. This is what's happening. Again, I'm not trying to do a political argument here. I am just saying this is happening in one million different ways across all sorts of stories that are not Actually anything this dude cares about they're way more important things We could be talking about but there's plenty of other presidents when they welcome teams to the White House There's speeches that are prepared and when they try to go off script George Bush did that and made a mistake You're not gonna correct him on that one. What did he not?
Starting point is 00:16:44 He said something about a game that he said that he had watched of our World Series and he hadn't watched it. You didn't correct him? Are you kidding me? I would have sworn. You're with the president. I would have sworn.
Starting point is 00:16:56 In the White House. I would have sworn that you would have just. Interrupt the remarks while presenting. It was Brad Penny that started, not Al Leiter. I can absolutely hear Samson's voice from the background. He's standing behind. I respect the office. I wish people in the office respected the office,
Starting point is 00:17:12 but I respect the office. Would you have corrected him after he was done speaking? I may have. There you go. I appreciate the kind words, Mr. President, but, right, you did that? Now, that's funny. I didn't call him. Mr. President
Starting point is 00:17:26 God wait, how did you address him? President Bush? You said you said mr. President. Yeah, I said it's interesting. I did not do that I did not do that, but you did Correct. I wish you had done that we talked after well, I you made all the Marlins employees call you mr. President. No David You know that if you had worked all the Marlins employees call you Mr. President. No, David. You know that if you had worked for the Marlins, you would also wore a tie for at least a couple only until June, only until the first sign that Oh my God, is it hot in this frickin town? You got here, I want to tell you a story. I'm serious here. My
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Starting point is 00:21:54 little pinker right there man yours is not that you're biting what do you mean? That's not terrible gonna come together This is the down Libertar show with this two guards I'm down on trunk. Okay, what he's doing with the transgender and all these But I just want to point out that what he did with Tuber... Tuber? Tuberville. Tuber. Tuber. Tuber. Tuber. Tuber. Tuber? You'll get it. Like Tuberware. Keep saying it, you'll find it. I'm having a hard time announcing it, except to say that I give him a pass on that. I do not, in the least. I know, but I don't want him to know that. I'd prefer my president not to
Starting point is 00:22:43 actually... Oh, I see what you're saying. Spend time on that type of stuff. Sure. In any other timeline, the idea that a president tried to make a sports reference and face planted would be otherwise not symptomatic of a larger trend. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:22:59 A troubling trend in so far as the background of that video, which to Chris's point, I did not do a great job of setting up. He's surrounded. Play. He's surrounded. He's surrounded by girls, young women, for what the C-SPAN Chiron describes as
Starting point is 00:23:17 the no men in women's sports executive order, speaking of telling people to play and to not It's a ridiculous thing word play. It's a ridiculous thing and I say that because Look, I'm at all times with what David referred to as the transgender I'm trying to be somebody who you want to hear from even if you think I'm going to be the guy who was in the tank For one side. I'm not in the tank for one side. I am just here to abide people that when you say this is a deeply unpopular issue, 80-20 a winner for the GOP, 80-20 a winner for the mutated Republican Party, which is true. Just please stop pretending like Democrats had been shoving this down people's throats.
Starting point is 00:24:05 The idea that everybody, everybody on the left was so pro-transgender that finally Donald Trump is going to stand up to the big bully. It's just not what was happening. But we're not saying pro or anti-transgender. What the executive order was, was about participation in sports. Yes, and the good news is that there have been rules regulating participation in sports. Beer tactics. And the good news is that there have been rules regulating participation in sports on the basis of hormones, testosterone, which is, look, an arguable debate.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Sure, we've done episodes about it, but they've existed. There have been regulations the entire time. There are fewer than 10 college athletes who are trans at all, meaning that we're debating, issuing executive orders, fear-mongering, about less than 0.02% of the population,
Starting point is 00:24:50 while also casting that population as the bully. The most effective straw man of all time, right? 80-20, 80-20, it's a winner, and I'm not disputing that. It is a winner for the Republican Party. What I'm saying is that this is something that I can't abide by because of a misrepresentation of the reality of it, right? I'm not saying that it's not unpopular.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I'm saying that we here who have cared about this issue, saying, actually, let's consider this population of people. Let's consider that if they were to go through with these regulations, these hormone therapies, to decrease their competitive advantage conferred by male puberty, if they were to do all of that, that they deserve a right to play.
Starting point is 00:25:38 What I'm saying is that people who have been saying that and believing that, like me, have not been platformed to the point where everybody is saying, let's celebrate the trans athlete. It's been a relatively lonely journey for those people in particular. And so for those fewer than 10 people who are just trying to participate in sports, them being cast as Goliath, as the bully, as the big bad wolf by the president
Starting point is 00:26:07 surrounded by these women as props, it's insane to me. It's just insane to me. Is this a Title IX issue? Is this something that can be appealed in the courts? Roy, there are so many legal pathways shooting out of this, Title IX being one of them. There are so many legal pathways shooting out of this, Title IX being one of them. And I guess I even hesitate to go to that point
Starting point is 00:26:30 because I wanna make the argument even more basic. The boogeyman you have created is not an actual concern. And it's just the most overblown political issue of our time. It was a platform issue that was used by Trump, and it gets people riled up, and he was able to take care of it, and then he was able to say that this is,
Starting point is 00:26:51 I'm doing what I said I would do, which by the way is a whole nother subject. All the things he's doing, he said he was going to do. Yes, he campaigned on this. This is what he campaigned on, and 70, was it 70 million people voted for him? And he's doing exactly what they want and this executive order on transgender participation in sports was one of them. And he's going down the line. This was just a press conference.
Starting point is 00:27:17 That was one of 10 that he had. All he's been doing, while Elon Musk has been doing the actual, uh, you know, work of being president, has been holding press conferences and signing executive orders, which in reality are pieces of paper that just say, here's a take I have. Yeah, that's my favorite part, is that this is his favorite part of the presidency,
Starting point is 00:27:39 is feeling like he's doing something by signing pieces of paper that say- I think you're underselling an executive order. Now, it is true that you cannot unilaterally implement certain things in some of the executive orders, but all presidents on both sides of the aisle use executive orders as swords. There are consequences to them.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I am just saying this is the theater of, this is first take. This is Stephen A actually being very qualified for this part. I can sign an executive order now. What about me? Yeah, but a majority of them either have to really have to go to Congress or are wholly unconstitutional. There's a reason why he's not going through Congress. One of them is because it takes actual work of governance. Another one is
Starting point is 00:28:20 which another reason is which he does not have a huge majority in Congress. He is a very narrow, like the thing that I am frustrated by is just the way in which we have lost any sense of proportion, right? The smallest population of helpless people who are contemplating suicide at a rate of one in three are the big bad wolf. That's who you should worry about, those people. Meanwhile, the victory that Trump won, again, it's crowd sizes, right? The whole premise of this is he won so overwhelmingly
Starting point is 00:28:52 that this is what the people wanted, he's just doing what they wanted. Look at how much he won by. We are misrepresenting basic statistics all of the time. And it's infuriating to be purely just on a, on a counting level. Like I just, we're really just gonna eat all these lies. Yes, for four more years.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And more. Maybe, and maybe more after that. But they have their way. Holy unconstitutional. Now, but when you pack the Supreme Court, you have and you assign the way he has, then you feel a little more emboldened with that branch of government.
Starting point is 00:29:28 When you've got the tiebreaker, which he has with JD Vance, in case there's a few Republicans who fall astray, which happened recently with one of the appointments, you feel emboldened as the president that you can use the three branches of government. What he does with these press conferences and the off the cuff sports references and various things,
Starting point is 00:29:47 that's just appealing to the ignorant, and that's fine. All the presidents do that. What we should be far more worried about is the ramifications not of the executive order stopping participation of transgender athletes in sports. We should be far more worried about things that he's doing economically, things that are happening within the government.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Can we not be worried about both though? Hold on a second, because- I don't have the bandwidth. You didn't have to pick and choose? That's the problem though, right? Because if you are running a for all intents and purposes sort of fascist version of the American government, other rising groups of people is what helps you.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's what helps you keep that pulpit and by creating a boogeyman. The percentage of people in America who think that 25% of our population is full of trans folks because of the fear mongering that's been done by this administration and its cronies are part of why you have people so dug in on that side of the aisle is because they've created bogeymen
Starting point is 00:30:54 out of nowhere. And by the way, if this population is as small as it is, which it is, we should still be supporting them. So look, I think there's a, the reason why it's been really hard to talk about the trans debate in the context that David is trying to get us to is because it is a bit of a nuanced thing. We're talking about a tiny population of people
Starting point is 00:31:17 and therefore, if it's just gonna be a tiny population of people, less than 10 college athletes, why are we prioritizing them and losing an 80-20 issue, as they say? And what I'm here to remind everybody is that the point of rights in this country is not that it's a popularity contest, it's what is right or wrong. And at the same time, David, I want to acknowledge when it comes to the terror alert scale of how worried we should be about anything, because it's a relatively small population,
Starting point is 00:31:51 what's happening say to USAID is something that yes, we should also make room for if we're gonna power reg the actual levels of concern, while also noting briefly that USAID is also 0.2% of the budget, right? So another population... But the impact it's having worldwide, the diplomatic impact it's having, the fact that no one's talking about this or no one's, whether we're a sports show or not, if you're not paying attention to what is happening with the USAID and the fact that it's disappearing then you're not paying attention. It's as you're saying, you gotta pick and choose
Starting point is 00:32:26 what you wanna put out there. But there's a through line here, Roy, right? Here we have in US aid and the trans population of athletes, two groups that are relatively very small. Very small. I don't agree with your premise, though. Budgetarily, US aid is 0.2%. The impact of US aid is so much larger
Starting point is 00:32:44 than the impact of banning transgender participation athletics. It's not even, how can you mention them in the same sentence? I don't understand. I'm mentioning them in the same sentence because what we're doing here is forcing nuance into a false binary. It's not either or. What we're saying is USAID, 0.2% of the budget, also massively impactful for every foreign relationship
Starting point is 00:33:08 we have, for all of these people who got into it for the right reasons. For everybody with AIDS, everybody with HIV around the world. For everybody who's affected by disease globally, it is a massive catastrophe. I am also saying that even though there are less than 0.02% fewer, I think we'll agree to disagree, percent of college athletes who are trans also worth considering. Right?
Starting point is 00:33:34 It was obvious back in whatever year that was, 2018, 2017, with the bathroom bill in North Carolina, it was sort of a test there. It's like, hey, my base, we can agree, men should go to men's rooms and women should go to women's rooms, right, ladies' rooms, right? And yeah, but then that one shockingly
Starting point is 00:33:52 sort of failed for them. So then the new one was, oh, boys should play boy sports, girls should play girl sports, let's protect our kids, and that one just hit like, you know what? And so it's just been obvious what's been happening. It just happens that they have currently succeeded. Do you see a problem? I mean, I don't know that we should debate the concept of,
Starting point is 00:34:13 I'd rather talk about the executive order and talk about the reason why he's doing that and how that is manifesting itself in issues that are far more impactful to way more people. So I just take umbrage with you saying that it's point, like you guys say, 0.02%. Therefore, we have to consider in the same breath. But this is why it's in the same breath right now.
Starting point is 00:34:33 It's because what Donald Trump and what this administration is doing all of the time is celebrating that they are defeating the bullies. The bullies in this case are trans athletes and they're the workers trying to get people AIDS medication who are actually a tiny percentage of the population he's trying, David, it's a numerous thing. What part of budget is Gaza?
Starting point is 00:35:02 I mean, are you gonna start breaking down the defense budget and what we've done? I'm walking you to a place of agreement. I'm walking you to a place of agreement, which is, oh god. Oh guys, the NBA trade deadline, it never stops. This according to Bobby Marks of ESPN and Tim Bon Temps,
Starting point is 00:35:24 the Washington Wizards are acquiring Reggie Jackson and a first round pick from the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for four second round picks and Jared Butler. Mike Scott, oh hoops, I also was reporting. A natural segue from DC politics to DC basketball. Well done to me. I mean, Reggie Jackson, That gives them a good bet. You know the Wizards have won three games in a row.
Starting point is 00:35:47 That's their season high in win streak. They said they're the worst, you said they're the worst team. Worst team ever. They were my pick of the day. Last night was the Nets over the Wizards coming off the, win over the Rockets. Russell, two threes, back to back.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Great game. You then get to play the Wizards. Get some momentum. They're only given a point and a half under the Draft Kings line as of yesterday morning. And they got smoked. The Wizards smoked them. Yeah, guess what that means?
Starting point is 00:36:11 What does it mean? The Brooklyn Nets are the worst team in the NBA now. Wait, you said the Wizards are the worst team. No, no, no, no, no. Whoever loses to the Wizards. It's the opposite of a championship. Whoever loses to the Wizards is the worst team in the NBA. Who are the three teams they've beaten? Is it it the latest loss that becomes the word the latest loss?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Oh now the second to last lost they're off the hook. You're off the hook exactly Because the Brooklyn Nets have taken the mantle as the worst team in the NBA Look for a little bit there the Denver Nuggets were the worst team in the NBA That was when they lost when Nikola Yogi's had 56 points. All right. Yeah. Yeah, they look It's a big deal. That's 56 points. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. That's a tough belt to hold. Nikola Jokic had 56 points, and they still lost to the Wizards. I don't agree that you can keep changing your mind
Starting point is 00:36:49 every day who the worst team is. It's very easy. If you lose to the Wizards, you are the worst team in the NBA, absolutely. So Minnesota's like, whew, thank God. We're off the hook. The Nets were a nightmare last night. That was awful.
Starting point is 00:37:01 That was awful. But yeah, four second round picks. Four second rounders. The second rounder is a fun thing to me. My favorite part of all these deals, when they say they're sending a pick, they're sending two seconds. I don't know if this is a thing that happens in any other sport, but in the NBA, it's so much fine print. So for instance, the pick that they're sending Washington is the less favorable of Oklahoma City, Houston, if between five and 30, and the Clippers in 2026.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I never read those. I just ignore anything like that when I talk about pick swaps. That used to be my job, Izzy. I had to write on a whiteboard where all the picks were going. How much does that pay? Wait, why? Was your handwriting the best of anyone in your position? No, because I was the one who knew. Couldn't you have told someone who had better handwriting? No. Does anybody notice?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Our front office wasn't that big, David. We didn't have a calligraphy guy. 28 grand a year. I want to unite. I want to cross the streams here, right? So Elon Musk is sending all of these people, these programmers in, to get into the budgetary software. What does the budgetary software
Starting point is 00:38:03 of a pro sports team look like? Well, so far it's a mean. So far a mean is the budgetary software. Yeah, of course, everyone's got software for accounts payable and accounts receivable and you've got spreadsheets and a lot of Excel. There's a lot of Excel. There's a lot of people doing-
Starting point is 00:38:19 Access, Microsoft Access database. Formulas so they can keep track of expenses like of your show and they can then calculate like how much a show is, and then you have revenue associated with it, it's a whole McGilla. So, and then it generates books, plus there's budgets. So every, there's about 250 budget departments. But is there a guy who's just yelling at some underlings,
Starting point is 00:38:43 and the underlings are the people actually? 12 being track of everything I'd say 12 people are yelling and 15 people are being yelled at it's about a one-to-one What a mess everybody everybody everybody gets an underling I the underling Ratio at this college is it's funny you say. You can't be an hourly employee and have direct reports. That's exempt versus not exempt. We can talk about that at any other time. I would love to talk about that. Does anybody else get excited when a means
Starting point is 00:39:14 like New York accent slightly comes out? It's the best. Like when he says, wool, and I'm like, that guy's cooler than he's letting on. Because the New York accent, I think is the coolest of all the accents. I don't think I have an accent. No, it comes out just a little bit at a time.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Usually when I've been drinking. There's nothing cooler than your Stephen A. Smith imitation. That, to me, is the coolest voice you have. The coolest? No, the coolest voice is always going to be a 44. That's the coolest voice. You don't think that's a cool voice? Hey, it's not.
Starting point is 00:39:42 It is good. But when you have a New York accent, you just get away with saying things that other people. Sasha Malia thing. Michelle definitely thinks. People can't get away with, all right? You say with a New York accent, you're mad corny for that.
Starting point is 00:40:00 You say that with a New York accent, you sound cool as hell. I can't do the New York accent. You sound cool as hell. Say that the way I just said it accent, you sound cool as hell. I can't do the New York accent. You sound cool as hell. Say that the way I just said it, and you sound like an idiot. You're mad corny for that, Pablo. See?
Starting point is 00:40:11 It's funny because... Sir? I grew up in New York and I don't have that accent, so I felt that actually, hypothetically and realistically. Right? It's also weird that people just talk different. I feel like the Southern accent is the coolest accent, right?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Like draw? Yeah, because it always, maybe I'm just always thinking of that Seinfeld episode where the Astros come up to New York and George is entertaining them, and then after they leave, he starts talking like them, calling them bastards and sons of bitches and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And what's my man's name? His boss at the Yankees walks by in the hallway and thinks George is blowing the deal by calling them bastards You tell those bastards when I get down to Houston I'm gonna kick their ass or whatever and instead it's a language of kind of love It's not cooler like oh you can't be a hip-hop artist with like a southern accent Yeah, like with a New York accent come on the southern accent is all it's at now to me the New York
Starting point is 00:41:02 What is the southern the New York accent test to me is around water. What's that, water? Is it wada? Water. Wada. Not water. It's really Long Island. Yeah, that's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:13 It's Long Island. You went a little too far east. Too far east. On 495. It's true. I don't think of the Long Island accent as a desirable accent. People do not wanna have that.
Starting point is 00:41:25 They actually. And it's very easy to tell. It's as easy as the Southern draw is the accent off the LIE. The Southern draw has like, it's like easy going, you can't rush me, right? Well, I'll tell you what, you know, you get that going, it's like,
Starting point is 00:41:41 oh, just get to the point, like, no, I'll get to the point at my pace. There was a study recently that I wanted to cite here. About accents? Yeah, it was about British accents and how we consider, of course, all of them, any British accent to be of a certain stature, right? The standard British accent and the posh British accent, yes.
Starting point is 00:42:01 This is the article. We're not talking about Jordies and Manx and stuff like that. They sound more important. I would say that to the untrained American ear, any British accent conveys a sophistication. I would tell you right now, to the untrained American, they've never heard of a Jordie. What is a Jordie?
Starting point is 00:42:22 What is that? Jordie is people from like Newcastle. You can look this up. It's a show called Geordie Shore. It was their version of Jersey Shore. You cannot understand a word they're saying. There's no way that sounds sophisticated. Oh, we'll go, we'll go, we'll go, wait, wait, wait, wait. Well, that's what it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:42:40 That's a good one. You need to put that one in the in the Rolodex. I'm looking at the The difference is the socioeconomic connotations of different British accents and Amin is right This is a thing This is a thing Jordy's yeah, look there is a study that tested how these things how these things sound right? And I'm gonna I'm gonna get to it in a certain okay and a how these things sound. Right. And I'm gonna get to it in a certain fail buster. In the next episode.
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