The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Livvy Rizzed Up Baby Gronk

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

Mike's wife confused Wayne Gretzky with Maury Povich, and Jess tells us a story of the time she saw Maury's show. Then, did you hear that Livvy rizzed up Baby Gronk? And Aaron Rodgers is rizzing up his teammates. Also, Molly Jong-Fast, the host of Fast Politics and correspondent for Vanity Fair, joins the show to discuss the Donald Trump indictment in Miami. Plus, Mike doubts the Heat will get back to the Finals with this group, and after we hear from the crew on their season takeaways, Domonique wants to hear their Dolphins expectations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugat's Podcast. Mike Ryan's wife, Cynthia, at the hockey game the other day, saw Wayne Gretzky, but she thought he was whom, Mike? Mori Povic. Ha ha ha ha, totally fair. Is it totally fair? Put her on the pole, Judeo-at-Lebitar, show. Is it totally fair that Mike's wife thought the great one was Mori Povich? Upon seeing him, I don't think that's totally fair. I think that's disrespectful

and ignorant. So this is the second time my wife has had no idea who Wayne Gretzky is. There was another game that we actually attended. I think it was Game 4 of the Boston Bruins series where my daughter, my wife, and I found this club level elevator, and we were the only ones waiting for it. And the great one shrolled in. And Cynthia was doing something with my daughter. I'm like, I don't get star struck often. But around Wayne Gretzky, his nickname is literally the great one. He's not just the greatest hockey player ever. He's the greatest hockey player by a wide margin. You're in the presence of somebody,

like the temperature changed. When Wayne Gretzky walked in in the room, so I wanted my wife to realize it, she had no idea it couldn't care less. And so she, I guess, didn't remember that what, for me, was a very memorable experience. Two days, two series later, she sees the TNT pre-game show,

which I should mention is outstanding excellent It's the best American hockey coverage. I've ever seen she's watching it and she asked me why Mori Povitch is on the dayus It's pretty great. It's not fair though. Yes, I've been doing taping of Mori what? Not the father right and that's what it was it was a I was a pater real or not. I mean, to me, it's like a sporting event that I, because like, I don't have a bunch of teams that I'm a fan of, because like, I played sports, so like, I just, I just kind of watched the game and then towards the end, I figure out who I'm rooting for. You know, I, something in the corner

that I'm rooting for, I'm rooting for the community, I'm rooting for the community. I'm rooting for the community. I'm rooting for the community. I'm rooting for the community. I'm rooting for the community. I'm rooting for the community. I'm rooting for the community. I'm rooting for the community. I'm rooting for the community. I'm rooting for the community that I'm a fan of because I played sports, so I just kind of watched the game

and then towards the end, I figure out who I'm rooting for. You know, something in the course of the game happens and I'm like, oh damn, I'm rooting for this team. And I feel like the same thing happens when I'm watching back when I used to watch more, you say, by the end of like, come on. This person can't be a father. Yes, he's not the father.

Or on the brood. Especially when a guy wants to be the dad, is really crushing when he's not. The whole thing is bizarre. We went as a group when I worked at Espionation, Ryan Nanny, co-host of the shutdown full cast. That great team bonding exercise. As like a present at the beginning of the summer,

like maybe five or six years ago, it was like a little gift to the crew, I guess, because actually one of our co-workers who grew up in China was obsessed with Mori, and the Mori show, and he was living in the United States and had never, like, we were only 45 minutes away from Stanford, Connecticut. So it was like a special treat, like, oh my gosh,

like we have to take him, you know, how unique and interesting you're up in another place and really loves the show. Like let's do it as a treat. So then we all went and so we took a bus to Stanford from our office. And Maurice actually, because his father was a very famous Washington Post sports journalist.

So Maurice grew up loving sports, somehow found himself hosting the Maurice show, but he was really excited to have us there. So, we got to sit in the front two rows of the taping, and he was so thrilled there was a sports group there, and he announced it to the entire audience. Like, we're so happy to have all of these fine people from espionation here, and the whole audience was like, who? It was really funny. He is a dorky, dorky sports fan because of all the me reasons you mentioned as father was a legendary sports writer what i don't know what he would have made of the baby grogke phenomenon

because i don't understand what was trending this week and we risked up baby grogke all i saw this weekend was media members outing the uh... theater dad of baby grounk, but I don't know why baby grunk is famous. Is it just a kid that's good at football? Well, Libby risked him up, so he was trending. And so as it turns out, maybe not so great of a story behind all of this, but Libby risked up baby grunk a couple couple weeks ago, and then people

found out Baby Grunk has hundreds of thousands of followers on social media, but he is actually a ten year old boy who visits different college campuses and does different camps and things like that. And so he has pictures with a lot of college football coaches, and his dad is actually trying to get him internet famous, I guess. You could say so after Livy Rizda, baby grunk, baby grunk's dad did an interview with the athletic, that actually I think kind of made the story a little less funny because at one hand it was like people were making fun of a TikTok video that was kind of silly and stupid where

Livy Rizda, baby grunk and he became the R risk god. But then it was like, oh, maybe Baby Grunk is actually just a 10 year old boy who seems like is being kind of, you know, his image. He's exploited. Yeah, it was a little problematic. Like I didn't love the interview. It was kind of also presented without comment.

Like they were just interviewing the dad and the dad was saying like pretty explicitly, like even if his son doesn't end up being good at football at least he'll be rich, which kind of feels like a little sad like late-stage capitalism, because it's like okay well if anything happens to your kid at least they made money off of something they couldn't really consent to do when they were 10, but also like maybe you shouldn't really need all of that money as an emergency in case like your kid gets sick when they're an adult. Like, it's a little depressing when you think about it that way. So, unfortunately, I think Livia, uh, raising up baby grunk had a unhappy ending.

I was just going to ask you, what was in it for Livia, and do you think Livia regrets raising up baby grunk? I'm not sure, actually. I would love to know what Livia thinks about raising up baby grunk. Um, I, I don't know if anyone really anticipated it. Because Livia doesn't need it. Livia on her own has such a big following. She has more of a following than baby grunk. I don't know if anyone really anticipated it. Because Livy doesn't need it. Livy on her own has such a big following. She has more of a following than baby grunk does.

It's huge following. And honestly, it was a pretty incredible mashup, like crossover opportunity for Livy and baby grunk because you're kind of melding these two fan bases together when Livy risked up baby grunk. The ugly side of parents manipulating and exploiting their kids can be turned into great mythology when you win and I can read stories about Jamal Marie's dad putting T-Cups hot T-Cups on his knees and making him squat for a long time with hot T-Cups under One set of circumstances that seems like parental abuse to me

But if you go up three one in the finals, it is good parenting that makes your son a tough love. A champion. I, uh, I still abuse. I am. No, wait, what? It is, of course, abuse, but it is being framed. Jamal Murray had 12 assists and no turnovers in the last game. And all of a sudden, I'm reading the stories about how when he was a kid, he had to get

in a squatting position and his father was making him tougher by putting hot tea cups on his knees and making sure that nothing spilled as he stayed in the squat for a long period of time as a child. It is abuse, but we can abuse if you're down three one. It's abuse if you're down three one. It's abusive. You're down three one. It is championship medal if you're up three one. Can you do this a bam? Like now How have we arrived at a place of capitalism and greed where livis risen baby drunk? I don't know down Do you guys have anything else other than that Billy? Do you have anything else? Can you give me one other item on that other than that one move that one trick pony move? Do you have another item on this that you can give me? Can I squeeze it out

of you? Well, I'm actually wondering if this is going to backfire on Livy because Livy didn't need to do that. Now she's kind of exposed baby, drunk and now how is Livy going to be viewed? Is she going to be complicit, drunk, and now how is Livy gonna be viewed? Is she gonna be complicit to all of this? I don't think this blows up on Livy. If anything, I think it's kind of exposed baby, drunk's father, who's been apparently, as you mentioned earlier, you kind of references Dan,

he's been DMing a lot of like media people to get baby, drunk, more media attention and media appearances. And like, I should say, this isn't anything that new when it comes to young children who are really phenomenal at sports kind of being put through this system. I think what's unique is that this kid is super young.

He's like, apparently, he's 10 years old. He's apparently like really big and like really strong for his age group and things like that. And you know, it happens with stage moms. We've seen dance moms. We've seen like all these shows, all these pageant parents, all these things. Like this happens all the time, right?

It's just like, what happens now in 2023, and has been happening for a while, is like something silly happens, like, livy risen up baby grog. And then you peel back a couple more layers, and you're like, ugh, kind of feel bad for baby grog. He's like 10 year old kid. This is kind of weird now.

Has Livey rised up anyone else? Um, that's a good question. As you've risen up Viori a lot. That's one of her favorite answers. Here's the thing that I don't understand about the whole baby grog phenomenon, right? Is that I believe he has a college offer already, but like he's 10 years old and respectfully,

or disrespectfully to Mr. Baby Grohnk. Look at him. Does it look like Baby Grohnk is going to grow into be some sort of football specimen? Does Baby Grohnk have tattoos? Yeah, apparently Baby Grohnk also has like a fake tattoo sleeve to make him a whole thing. I'm looking at the picture here and he's got two half sleeves of like, I don't know what it is, but it looks like tattoos. I read that they are fake.

It is what is real is the terrible parenting. Yeah. Nothing fake about that. He's a... Stugots, I want that. That's not times, man. I want to ask you about what is happening with the jet. You've got Aaron Rodgers saying,

this has been the most fun six weeks. He's had in a long time. He's saying that Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner happening with the jet you've got Aaron Rogers saying this has been the most fun six weeks. He's had in a long time. He's saying that Garrett Wilson and sauce Gardner will soon be the best at their position. And Robert Salah, the Jets coach is saying, I don't want to be on hard knocks. Saus is already kind of the best at his position. I think he's like, he's certainly in the top five. What he's saying about Garrett Wilson is, I will make him the best watch receiver or one of the best wide receivers in

the NFL. And of course, he's having a good time. He has things to do, Jen. There are things to do in New York after he's done playing football. He is no longer living 30 minutes outside of Kenosha was. I mean, Garrett Wilson stood out last year without a quarterback. So I think it's a distinct possibility that he could be one of the best receivers. Picking out one single best receiver is kind of hard to do. You're so dependent on other things, but yeah, he's good enough to be there. Sauce, like you mentioned, is among the best corners in football. Another thing's hard to measure is who's the best corner.

But I think Aaron Rodgers is not being hyperbolic when he's saying that both of them have a chance to be that. And yeah, of course, he's going to be at the offseason program when he can go to Carbone afterwards. But what's up with the coach of the Jets being afraid of the distraction of hard knocks? Like, this is, once you inherit this quarterback, you're bringing all of the expectations with you. Welcome them.

Don't shrink from them. No, I mean, the goal of Robert Salis to save his job and to win the goal of the Heart Nox and anybody who is on Heart Nox is to entertain. So that's normally something that the owner wants to lift the profile of the team or something that the marketing department wants or I don't know, the sponsors would love you

to be on Heart Nox. The coach wants everybody the hell out of the way. He just wants to play football. Sad's to me, Dan, like he's risen everyone up. Kenosha's three hours away from Green Bay. I don't care. I mean, there's no son. It's not 30 minutes.

Anywhere in that state. Kenosha, comedically lands. Every time. Appleton. I think we stayed in Appleton when we played out there. We have a quarterback, Dad. A quarterback that the coach doesn't want on hard knocks, because he's afraid of the expectations for months before the season.

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I'm expecting some form of chaos. What are you expecting at the federal courthouse tomorrow, given where the rhetoric is already landing? I mean, I hope nothing, right? This is a crew that loves to threaten civil war whenever they don't get what they want. And I think that our government has gotten pretty good with security. So the hope is nothing.

But again, you do live in an open carry state, which is a little bit scary. And certainly it's really important that people are aware that this is the time when Trump has really tried to inside violence. The proud boys have encouraged their followers on telegram to, quote, come out and bring a banner supporting Trump. You've got a Trump supporter in Congress calling this war and tweeting, quote, I for an eye. You've got Trump's sons, fiance, posting in all caps that retribution is coming.

And then you have this sound from Carrie, where she is basically threatening while saying she's not threatening. If you want to get to President Trump, you're going to have to go through me, and you're going to have to go through 75 million Americans just likely. I mean, most of us are carcoring members of the NRA. That's not a threat. That's a public service. Molly. It's not good. It's very irresponsible. I mean, should we expect anything less from the woman who thinks she's actually governor.

You know, Arizona, who considers herself to be governor of Arizona. I is the kind of rhetoric we saw before January. It's like, it's bad. This is not how it's supposed to go. And you know, you see other countries where they have corrupt leaders. Scotland is a great example. We saw this with Sir Cozy in France. They were able to jail corrupt leaders

and period paragraph. That's it. But what's happening here is that the Maga crew has decided that holding Trump responsible for anything is somehow in a front to them and their political movement. Good idea or bad idea to send a metal war correspondent out to the proceedings to cover it. Probably, okay. I mean, depends on how much you like that correspondent, I'll say, but it's someone you don't like. I mean, I'd invite suggest you like that correspondent. I'll say, but it's someone you don't like.

I mean, I'd invite suggestive, they owe you money or something. No, no. What if it's me and I'm only asking questions about the Florida Panthers third line? Yeah, then I think you're fine. As long as you're wearing like a full body armor and also a maga hat, you should be okay.

Noted. Have both in my car, apparently. How is this rhetoric any different than what led up to January 6th? It's not. I mean, I think it's a big thing. I think it's a big thing. I think it's a big thing. I think it's a big thing. I think it's a big thing. I think it's a big thing. I think it's a big thing. I think it's a big thing.

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Cannon is as close to a Trump supporter as you can get. So, I don't know that proud boys want to hurt a mega judge. You know, she's the woman who put in place the special master, which delayed this trial four months or this indictment four months. Were you

surprised that Bill Barr went on Fox television yesterday and said, if half of this indictment is true, Trump is toast. No, because Bill Barr is like on the Bill Barr, you know, trying to get some people to like him again, tour. And he has been critical of Trump. I mean, would he work in another Trump administration? Probably. I mean, would he work in another Trump administration? Probably, I mean, you know, this is like Chris Christie. These guys are very critical except when they're not, except when they're trying to get jobs.

So Bill Barr, you know, it's, look, he's charged with like, you know, there's, it's 37 counts as federal indictment, you know, I don't know, 20 fall under the espionage act. I mean, any other person would end up in jail, but Trump is not any other person. I'm going to be on a very similar tour after these finals rep up. What was your main takeaway from, you know, when we'd heard about these documents, Trump had said they were in very secure places. And then naturally, that meant a shandle-lear lead in bathroom. Yeah, I mean, that no, is, of course they're like on the stage at Mar-a-Laga, and

you see pictures of people having posing for photos in front of them. I mean, the guy lives in a country club that is open to the public where Chinese spies have been found. I mean, this is not, this is not going to be a secure location. I have questions about who need the chandelier in the bathroom, but they're not national security questions. I have a lot of questions about that. Also, the height of the toilet, it appears that it's lower to the ground for leverage pooping your thoughts. I mean, again, a question I've never been asked, but, you know, uh, the, listen, Marjorie

Mary Weather Post, the previous owner of Mar-Mar-Lago is rolling over in the graph right now. Does this make him stronger or weaker with his base, Molly? So my sense is, and this is the polling, and I've also talked to some people who are a little bit smarter than I am who have said That they think this clenches the nomination with the base But it grows the chasm between the base and the general electorate, right? You have people who will die for Trump, but you know what those people are not what Trump needs to win a general election what he needs are soccer moms in Arizona, right? And, you know, people in Ohio, and I'm not sure the message like, don't be mean to our guy, is number

one on their agendas for 24. When are we going to see any of these Republican candidates have anything bad to say about Trump? and candidates have anything bad to say about Trump. The cowardice there is a bit surprising, even by reduced standards to see that nobody is willing to say anything because they're afraid of losing his people. They want his people, too, even if his people are running around caring Nazi flags.

Right. So it's a mobious strip of, am I allowed to curse on the show? Yes, sure. Oh, OK. It's a mobious strip of, right? You have a base that is obsessed with Trump. You have elected Republicans who refuse to condemn Trump.

But the base takes this message and keeps going with it. And so at the end of the day, the Republicans faces their, you know, the leopard eating face party, the leopards are now currently eating their faces. You are a family friend of E. Jean Carroll. This was a month ago, a jury found Trump liable for sexually abusing and defaming her. And now she might seek more damages because on that disaster CNN town hall, he called her a whack job and called the trial rigged, is what happened there in any way surprising to you that it seems like it did no damage at all and that he is maximum Teflon? I mean, again, right? This is the thing. He's been impeached twice. He's been indicted federally, locally. I mean, there's still this Georgia indictment

that's going to come in August or in the end of July. No, I mean, the guy, the Republicans have, you know, there's nothing that can touch him except losing, right? And he does keep losing. I mean, that is the good news. And we saw him losing 2020, we saw him losing 2018. We even saw him under deliver for Republicans in the 2020 midterm.

So the good news is that there are enough saying people in this country so that hopefully, you know, in 24, he loses. But yeah, I mean, it's just incredible. And in fact, he kinda, you know, he got, you know, in 24, he loses. But yeah, I mean, that it's just incredible. And in fact, he kind of, you know, he got, you know, we got the jury found him liable for defamation. And then he just continued to defame. I mean, the man cannot learn a lesson. And maybe there's a number, you know, maybe that Eugene gets some of this money and that stops Trump from defaming, but it's hard to imagine.

Can you tell me whether she's surprised at all that it's gone that way, that? Yeah, I don't think she's surprised. I've actually interviewed her in Robbie Kaplan. I don't think she's surprised. I mean, first of all, Robbie Kaplan is a really good lawyer, right? She's really, really smart. She's arguing in front of the Supreme Court. She doesn't mess around.

She doesn't mess. And Trump is not someone who has good lawyers around him. I mean, in fact, Trump has not gotten away with things because he's so smart and so capable. He's gotten away with things because he's so lucky. And because so many people are willing to vouch for him. And so many Republicans are willing to die on that hill, metaphorically, not literally. But so I would say, you know, that is, that's why he's gone away with so much stuff. So a good lawyer can take Trump to the cleaners. I mean, that's not a problem. And he is so malfeasant on so many levels that I'm not that surprised. And I don't think she is either. What do you make of two of his attorneys,

immediately resigning when this indictment came down? You know, it's funny because I had George Conway in my podcast and he was saying, you know, actually, Trump may have a real problem getting lawyers. And I was like, aha, that's hilarious. You can always find someone who will charge you $800 an hour. But the truth is that actually Trump needs lawyers that have security clearance to deal with all of these

secure documents. And so actually, he may have real trouble finding lawyers. He'll certainly find someone, but you know, he can't use a parking lawyer, a traffic lawyer. He can't use Alina Haaba. He's going to have to use a real lawyer who knows national security. So it's going to slow him down, for sure. What kind of military advice do you think Kid Rock had and will he get subpoenaed? Good question. I mean, hard to know Kid Rock is so known for his military advice and, you know, he's he's quite a genius when it comes to that kind of thing and he's planned many in invasion and war. So I mean, you know Trump was just going to the best people obviously. Do you think he

drops a ball with two bombs? I think he does. Obviously, I mean, there's no question. I, when I think about military wisdom, I go to Kid Rock. Put it on the poll, Juizio at Levittar Show, when you think about military wisdom, do you go to Kid Rock? Percentage of chance that Trump goes to jail before Election Day.

Zero. First of all, it's going to take forever. And you know, if Trump has Eileen Cannon, Eileen Cannon is the closest to a MAGA judge you can have. She's been smacked down by the conservative 11th Circuit, but she's very likely to be the judge on this case. You're going to see a year of pretrial motions. It's going to take forever. He definitely, I think he can still win the primary. Well, this is going going on whether or not he wins the general

again as anybody's guess. I don't think he'll ever go to jail. I don't think there's a mechanism for the secret service sleeping in Otisburg. More likely scenario is they figure out some going to house a rest deal or as Trump often does, he gets off. Molly, thank you for joining us. Appreciate the insight always. Thanks for having me. Don Lebertard. Off-handed to me and Chris before he started playing. He's like, seems like that Tony guy gets triggered pretty easily. And I laughed the hardest out loud

I've ever laughed in my life. Still got started. He's got triggered pretty easily. That guy. That's easy. That's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's crazy. It's crazy. No, you don't have realized. No, you're so, it's so, it's crazy. That's so crazy. I'm crazy. I'm crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. No, you know what I've realized? No, you're so.

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You're so. You're so. You're so. You're so. You're so. Let's support that! My guy has got a buffalo! Oh, let's go to Buffalo! Let's give him a hug! What is this? Tony, you totally proved that you weren't in all on him. Thank you. Thank you. This is the Don Lebertar Show with this two-guys. MUSIC Dance out!

We can have some fun! No more trump talk, because I did not want to do that, that should make me sad. We noticed, I mean it's just depressing all the time with that, the freaking courts and the judges and nothing's going to happen. And this is the last time I get to be with you, Mike, because you're going down there. Yeah, yeah, I'm going down there tomorrow. I literally want to say goodbye to Mike. You're saying goodbye to Mike, right?

Good luck, bro. Good luck to you. I'm not, this is your will up to date, man. I think I've said plenty of times that I'm not totally comfortable with this and it's not. It's not mattering. And I'm hoping that there is like some media and burger that I can't just show up

and people will like push me aside and protect me from myself. I offered to go down there with you. I am, I'm taking back the offer. Yeah, you should have gone. No, know, actually I was joking a little bit, but I kind of think that stew would make everyone safer. If stew was there, like I feel like stew gives off no disrespects through. You give off a little vibe that says, I'm down with what you guys are down with. Yeah, like that. So like stew, if I go down there, clearly, I'm giving off a vibe that I'm a down with. Yeah, like that. So like Stu, if I go down there, clearly,

I'm giving off a vibe that I'm not down with there, with what's bad. Yeah, it's great. I'm black, Mike. Oh, all right. But I do think if Stu put his arm around me, he's like, he's with me guys, and they were back on and they're like,

oh, that guy, he's got a little scruffy beard, a trucker hat, a little older. Right. Except him Jewish, I mean. Ah, they don't know that. We don't say it last night. Just, you look like you want your country back. So never reveal my religion.

Don't tell them I'm Jewish. Light up a heater. Put my heater at you and you're gonna be good. Some glasses. Yeah. The smoke is key. It's key. All right, so what are you guys gonna take

from this heat season? Well, I'm gonna take from this heat season? Well, I'm going to take from this heat season is I really want, this is the first time in watching the heat that I've wanted a title for a player more than the free and chis. Because I think... Haslam. That's a good point. That's a good point. But now, I want this for the, I think that Jimmy Butler story arc is so crazy when he considers upbringing and we don't have to get totally into it. It's

Griefeter porn, but he's done this as an a seed. This is his second finals in a heat Jersey. He's already getting to an age and will reference because we always have to the tips minutes. Yeah. Better on him. And I just don't know how he gets back to this spot. And even if he does, I don't know if you'll have a better situation going into it up against a Denver team that hasn't done anything in the finals before. And I'm really bummed for him because it would have been the perfect ending to a story arc. And maybe you can hit me with the don't do it. I care about you.

We've doubted the heat before you doubted the heat before this playoff run is recently as five minutes left in that playing game with Chicago. But I think that this Colin Coward at a tweet that at first angered me, but when he said culture as a ceiling, this is a pretty good ceiling. But they definitely need more dudes.

It's a good tweet. It's a good tweet. It's a good tweet. Yeah, culture does have a ceiling. Is there any way, I guess what I'm more trying to get at is how are you gonna feel about this season when it's over? Like 10 years from now, 20 years from now. If they win a championship, it's obvious how you're gonna feel about it.

Let's assume the unlikely scenario comes to pass where they do not win the championship and the heat lose. This has felt like, even from a distance, it's felt like a pretty incredible run that like is pretty cool and you should be talking about it should be proud of up there with championship runs in my opinion. I think there are a runner up potentially. Now it's over and Denver essentially has to finish the job and we'll see how that goes. But it is a run that I think he is going to be remembered forever in that they remember the Nick's run because they were in 8 seed even though it was lockout and wasn't your traditional 8 seed. This never happens in this

sport. And recently the this sport shown us that maybe it's moved to in a direction more parity, but you never see 8 seeds do this. You never see eight seeds topple the two best 1% of teams on their way to this. And I do think for a runner up, they'll get remembered more just because when you talk about upsets and that, like, they'll be the gold standard in the postseason. So that's encouraging, I guess, and we'll always have sad Bill Simmons.

How did this run impact, I guess, future plans for the heat? Because when they were in the play and game, it was like, this core is not gonna cut it. We need to rebuild. And now it's like, oh, David and Lillard might come. And that works with these pieces. So what do you do? For me, it shows that Miami is a place where you can

maximize your talents. I think some of these bad contracts have kind of played themselves into some value. You realize that the Caleb Martin contract is a really desirable piece, and you can say it to maybe a bad contract. You wonder what you could do if you didn't have Kyle Lowry's salary on your books, because this team could get so much better. So maybe I am foolish for doubting that they can get back here, but getting back here with Jimmy Butler as the best player on the team,

I don't necessarily see that path. I think that they've added value to their organization and can certainly improve on the team. Will they do that though? Will they do the necessary things? Will they depart from BAM? I don't necessarily think so. Lillard. Lillard. Lillard. Lillard. I really hate this. This is a post-mortem. We're doing a post-mortem. No, no, no, faith and that, I think Jimmy Butler is going to do the things that he needs to do to keep the heat in it. Dominic, I would tell you,

coming from a different perspective, because these guys are heat fans, they grew up with the team. I'm a next fan, they're lousy. They've been lousy forever, okay? Even in defeat, I would feel fortunate that I have an organization that could take Jimmy Butler as its best player and get to two NBA

Finals in four years at three conference finals in four years. I feel good about my coach. I'd feel great about the guy running the entire organization. I feel great about my ownership. I feel great about the fact that we could develop guys that other teams didn't want. He can do things that other organizations simply don't do, they can't do. And so if I'm a heat fan, I'm grateful. I'm fortunate because my team, regardless of who's its best player, is always relevant. They are. It's been a good run for Miami's boys in general. Stude, at that point though, I think this season's immense sposed legacy, I think, more

than any other season. Because when you look at it, he took these guys to another finals, right? It was a core that was good enough to be the one seed in the finals a couple of years ago. And now as an eight seed, they're able to reach these heights because of Spowe. I think I'm going to talk at a both sides of my mouth, but the NBA has just always been so all or nothing that we always forget how good Spowe is. No matter the run, he's already done this one.

He has no coach of the years. No coach of the years. We'll always forget. Regular season of war. While I think that this has an opportunity to be a super memorable runner-up just because there are an 18 in a legitimate one and been counted out by even the most passionate of heat fans, IEME, I think we forget all about it if they start struggling the way that they struggled this past regular season.

The conversation about like Miami, South Florida sports in general, we've heard you guys talk about a bunch. How great a year it's been for all of it. Maybe the best in history, even without any championships. Are we counting last year's dolphins run? Or is the coming dolphins run going to live?

23 coming runs. So, what we got expectations for the dolphins. Well, is Salvin cook on the dolphins? No. No. Two is though. Yeah, it's healthy. There's all 17 regular season. 17 to a game. I'm giving you 17 to a games. Dick Fangeo, Jalen Ramsey. We're looking at championship. I got about Jalen Ram Rams. Oh, I forgot about Fange. Yeah, I got another top flight corner. I have to say, as good of a year as it's been for Miami fans, it's been probably almost

a better year to be a Miami hater because we're about to go through this entire spring with all of these Miami teams. FAU, UM men's and women's college hoops, the baseball team, and the he and the panthers. I think the college baseball team. College baseball team we had. We had yo-yo on our show. Yeah, great kill that.

You killed it. Yeah. I do know what to say now. They might come out of this with zero championship, zero rings, zero banners. I mean, I guess you get a final four banner. Yeah. I can already see the BR graphic getting shared as if it's like a dunk on South Florida.

Hold on, hold on. What's the graphics say? Let me, I'm gonna DM it to the right. Yeah. Like I understand what you're coming from as a Miami hater, but they're doing this is, like we're talking about Miami hurricanes, men's and women's basketball.

That was never expected to be in those positions. We're talking about the Miami Heat entering the postseason as an eight seed and the four to pay. There's entering as an eight seed. I love that as your re-bottle because it's like, we're talking about a bunch of teams that suck. Suck it. Yeah.

Yeah. They lost. Like, who's gonna have a go? New York? Who's gonna have a go? Me personally. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn Me who's gonna? Me personally. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I'm with you. I'm with you rationally. You're right. We over-achieved and we did better than all of you other teams. So shut up, but it doesn't matter when you lose on the big stage. Yeah.

And then do it again and again and again. You get roasted and you kind of deserve it. Can I counter with I was smart enough to have inter Miami season tickets before all this? Oh, damn it. You coming up. Lot of money. Lot of money going to your pocket. They were bad though, right?

Inter Miami's presently last in the conference. Yeah, but they're like a three game win streak away from being in the, there was an inter Miami ticket program by the way. That was like, I guess her ticket master thing went down in the app for an extended period of time. So they were like, okay, if you can't make a game four times a year You can kick those two tickets over to a future game

And I just started doing that to all games and from late July and on so now I have multiple tickets to messy games I'm just I was thinking 3d chess right there. You got sideline pull, can you get down on the pitch? Is that kind of like- I like going to the games as a fan. That's what you say when you don't got sideline pull, right? I mean, I can get you there. I just a fan, yeah. I like to sit with the people.

I like to say irresponsible things from my seat and not be able to see the club. You got a regular seat, a club. Yeah. I don't wanna, you saw this at the American Century Championship last year at Tahoe. When Kyle Lowry walked past us. Fun? I was like, I'll't want to you saw this at the American Century Championship last year at Tahoe. When Kyle Larry walked past us, I was like, I'll get up and leave.

I don't want to actually be held accountable for my takes because I speak as a fan. If I do what Jerry does, yeah, especially Tahoe, lot pink lemonade. I'm like, gosh, I was torn up. Yeah, I just look, I, what I give you, even though it's performative, is fan opinions for often worse than better, but I give you fan opinions and that changes if I change that dynamic.

Yeah, it's turned, it's turned up. It's the fan opinion on 11 because Mike lives on 12. He's trying to do what the thing that we just talked about in the interview, which is the, makes some people like me again tour. Yeah. You want your bill, Barshan? It's a big uphill battle for me, because also generally I like being on it.

So, but it is, it is a little frustrating that people can play good things happening in my sports teams to me just being a terrible person. Like I didn't be posted. I got to be honest. Boston gonna beat us and you would have never heard from me. But I did it. When the messy news dropped, I was excited.

Like I felt my heart increase, my heart rate increase. I was hyped for Mike Ryan and it felt like my team had just won a championship and I was really enjoying it. And then I went to Twitter and Mike was just going all the way off. And then I started to hate that you had to mess his story. You weren't alone, but this was true for thousands. I'm a trash talker, generally, of a quarterback. I enjoyed it.

I'll like, get him, Mike, tell him. Okay, you told him. You hop telling him, Mike. You had pre-produced video packages. Stop telling them. Stop telling them, Mike. They know.