The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Making Business Decisions

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

How can Odell Beckham do one-legged squats with 350+ pounds around his neck while on the PUP list? What is the PUP list? If this were Week 1 of the Playoffs, would Odell be playing? Plus, Christian McCaffrey is going to Germany to deal with his Achilles injury and Stugotz is very suspicious of what's going on there. Chris got goosebumps from a Greg Maddux story that Dan thinks is a total farce and Jeremy wants us to keep coming back to baseball but cannot make it happen. Instead, we hear this week's Useless Sound montage. Then, it's time for another episode of Gen CFB! Jess and Lucy recap a wild Week 4 and look ahead to an even bigger Week 5, which includes a giant showdown between Georgia and Alabama in Tuscaloosa. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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to register in Canada. This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Put it on the poll please, Juju. At Lebatard Show, are you surprised that Apple is bigger than Amazon? Because I am. I would have guessed that Amazon was the biggest company that we had in America, but it is not. Apple is first at the moment. I don't understand at all what's happening with Nvidia or if I'm even pronouncing that correctly. You are. I'm not sure I am actually. I

think I'm pronouncing it wrong, but Nvidia is also ahead of Amazon and that's surprising to me. I would have just assumed that Amazon was the biggest thing going in America. My guess was Apple just because of the amount of Apple devices I have in my house. It's just crazy and I have to get like a new desktop, but now I can get this little portable thing that you can just take with you anywhere, which is also like a desktop,

and I'm like, well, let me have that too. So I figured Apple has thousands and thousands of my dollars. I assume that because you can get Apple via Amazon and can't get Amazon via Apple, I just assume that one would be bigger than the other because, can you? My wife buys a ton of Amazon shit on her iPhone. Oh, that, yeah, well that's true.

Okay, and I guess you could do the Apple Cash app as well. They've got all our money in soon. Yep. They're just playing ping pong with our money. Where is Google? Where is Google on this? Google is fifth. So the top five is Apple first, Microsoft second,

Nvidia third, Amazon fourth, and Alphabet slash Google fifth. Well said. I want to ask the group something here because I am forever amused by how people at microphones underestimate how strong and excellent because I am forever amused by how people at microphones underestimate how strong and excellent people who are playing sports are. I saw some video of Odell Beckham doing something in the weight room.

Keep in mind, he is not healthy enough to play football. Do you know what the PUP list stands for, Stugatz? Do you know what PUP, stands for Stu gots? Do you know what pup the the acronym pup stands for player unable to perform so close? Close enough Two out of three physically unable to perform But this I want you to look at what it is that Odell Beckham is doing here in the way That's right. I did actually in the weight room. That's right.

I did actually. Look at what Odell Beckham is doing. Again, this is not strong enough to play in the NFL right now. Izzy can speak to how difficult it is to do these one legged, are those piston squats? Like what kind of squat is he doing here

and what's the amount of weight that is on his shoulders? Again, this is a player. When I tell you, his lower body has to be so very strong and it's not equipped or healthy enough right now to play football even though he's coming off the pup list and the Dolphins are expecting him back soon. I think those squats are Bulgarian. Split squats, yeah.

Bulgarian split squats. Oh enough, they're just squats. No, they're not because squats is with two, you're doing the back with one and then you're going down. That's 365 plus the chains, which add what? Is he like another 20? So like 385 split squat? I mean, it depends on how long those chains are,

how big those chains are, but that's a lot of weight. When the bar is bending like that, it's just, it's beyond my weight range. I saw somebody, his name is Sampto Cyril, he's gonna be in the NBA eventually, but I think he's going to Kentucky next year. He was doing, when you said one-legged squats, was doing one-legged squats, not like that back foot up, just doing one-legged squats. And I'm thinking, dude that's probably not safe. But it's also, we've gotten to the point where these athletes are so ridiculously

strong and so athletic and can do so, like these feats of strength are ridiculous. You see like Instagram influencers just doing some crazy stuff that these professional athletes can do like nothing, like muscle ups and all these other things. It's insane and like you mentioned, he doesn't, he's not even healthy.

Like that leg that he put on the back is not even healthy. If he can do that, he can play football. Yep. His hands work, you can catch the ball. Correct. If you're doing that and putting out the videos, you put on the back is not even healthy. If he can do that, he can play football. Yep. His hands work. You can catch the ball. Correct. If you're doing that and putting out the videos, you get on the field.

Do something on the field. Yep. Exactly right. Mm-hmm. It's not up to him. Is he going to have to be carrying 800 pounds on his back? No. Catch the ball.

Run five yards. Get hit. Run out of bounds. Whatever. You can do it. Football seems easier. Exactly. Yeah.

I'm glad we discussed this. I'm glad that I brought it up to you. You don't think that that is a sign that he can play football? He can play football. I do think that all that stuff is unnecessary. Like, why do we have all these chains? Can't you just put more weights on that thing? Can't you just buy bigger weights?

Can't you just play football? If this was week one of the playoffs, he'd be out there playing football right now. So let's not. Are the chains? Look at me, Louie. So let's not. Are the chains... Or there's balance stuff you need some core help the chains. That's at a boy Dan-o that's right the chains are used for that because they're not stabilized

right so you're you're trying to stabilize your weight as you're going down. I'm really always stunned by how strong these human beings are how ridiculous the science of all of this is and the amount of training that's going into these military schools for organized football violence of training these robots to be superhuman. Well sometimes it's science and sometimes it's Mark Ingram pushing a car or something like that.

Go outside, grab a log like a lumberjack, lift that around, move it this way, move it that way, boom, core workout, you're done, you're good, you're fine. Here comes the Rocky reference from Stugatz working out in Siberia. Stugatz was railing the other day because he's muttering under his breath, McAfrey, Germany.

Oh yeah. Listen, I always have doubts when a guy can't get healthy in the United States of America And then the team announces they're going to Germany and they do it like this Christian cares so much about getting back on the field. He cares so much about his body He cares so much about being in shape that he is willing to fly to Germany To get the proper doctor's care and the proper medication get out of here We all know what's in Germany

What what you guys know? I mean, I don't need to tell you everyone knows what's it stuff that isn't legal here damn good schnitzel That's what that we need Here's the thing. Well the NFL is in Germany like once a year now. That's true. Good point. Here's a question How did we go from we're not sure if he's gonna play week one two days before the game to all of a sudden Oh, we need to go to Germany to solve this problem. Seems like Kyle Shanahan. Maybe was lying What are you guys assuming is being done in Germany because I think aren't able to be done here So I mean we have good doctors here in the United States of America. Do we not? Why do you have to go all the way to?

Germany why did Kobe have to go to Europe when he was alive rest in peace Kobe? But why did Kobe have to travel across the pond go to Europe to get himself fixed up? Huh? Why because there's stuff that we can't use here that they can use they like what though cuz I stem cells I like high-level stuff I've got a football tournament in a month and a friend of mine is going to take me to a place up in Jupiter, I'm pretty sure it's just straight up blood doping, I'm gonna do it. And I'll report back, as to see,

and let you know how good that makes you feel. That's what I assume Germany is, that's what I'm always assuming is happening in Germany, some sort of strange blood mixing that is healing that we're not allowed to do in the United States. Plates and plasma and whatnot. Yeah, all that stuff. Columbia, Mexico, a lot of UFC fighters

go to those other countries. Oxygen. Get their stem cells done and then come back and they're like, all right, I'm ready. But he doesn't really care more than anyone else. He's just going to get illegal stuff in Germany is what you're saying, Tony, right? Yeah, I mean, he cares enough about his body

that he's gonna go to another country. I guess he cares enough to cheat. He does, yeah. I just think there's real expertise in the way Tony's describing this stuff in Germany is what you're saying Tony right? Yeah I mean he cares enough about his body that he's gonna go to another country. He does yeah. I just think there's real expertise in the way Tony's describing this when he says get their stem cells done. Trim your stem cells.

You get stem cells injected into your body right? And like that's what regenerates the growth of whatever ligament or muscle or whatever that you're doing. You take those stem cells, those peptides, you put them in there and all of a sudden it's like superhuman healing. Again, a- Why do they have to tell them where Christian McCaffrey is?

Why can't he just go to Germany and do this thing? That's a good question. Anybody have an answer? I don't know. HIPAA? It does make it so that I immediately question what you're doing. It's the opposite of HIPAA.

Yes, it's- Right. It's GIPAA actually, Germany. There you go, yeah, H stands for United States. Send them somewhere, Dan. It's not GIPA. It's We've got a major problem that though he was right about the peptides Yeah I don't know if you guys have been getting any of the clips on

I don't know if you guys have been getting any of the clips on Greg Maddux and the documentary that's about to come out on the genius of Greg Maddux, but we've gotten officially to the bullshit portion of the storytelling on legacy building. Now I have heard stories over the years that Greg Maddux, for example, would watch the way that somebody was being pitched and say guys You're gonna need to be careful in this dugout here three pitches from now There's gonna be a screaming line drive that comes into this dugout because of the way this person is being pitched and then it would Happen there's a lot of urban myth about how great this guy who threw 91 miles per hour Knew how to trick people and he had his personal catcher Eddie Perez and I'm calling bullshit on this story prematurely. We're regular season

and we were winning like ain't nothing it was easy game in the eighth inning and he told me don't throw anything inside on barbell, call everything outside and I said okay I think it was somebody odd. And he wants to go inside. And I go, okay, you know, it's your game. So I went inside, called inside, and Bajwa here like a thousand mile. Long, long way back.

Way back. And I was mad, and I was like, what are you doing? And he goes, they got a good team, we got a good team. We're going to play them in the playoff. He's going to wait for that pitch. Three months later, we're in the playoff, bases loaded in the seven, we threw three straight changes and struck him out.

And I was walking to the other guy, he goes, hey. And I looked at him and said, you remember? Three months ago, two months ago? And I said, no, I don't. He was looking for that pitch, the homer that he hit. And I was like, this guy, it's how smart he was. Goosebumps. What percentage of that is bullshit?

Because I'm going about 80% of it. Zero. I believe all of it. Oh, good Lord. For the people listening, there's a clip there where you see him after striking him out on the playoffs like heckling his catcher. Hey, remember that?

So the claim is that he purposely gave up a home run to Bagwell during a regular season game because he knew he would face him three months later. Why would you need to tell your catcher you're going inside if you're just gonna put a meatball out there? You saw the pitch, it was right down the middle. He had told him previously we're never throwing inside, but then it hit him, hey, let's give him this one now. to tell your catcher you're going inside if you're just gonna put a meatball out there. You saw the pitch, it was right down the middle.

He had told him previously we're never throwing inside, but then it hit him, hey, let's give him this one now, set him up for the playoffs, so he goes, hey, we're coming inside. Yeah, whenever I struggle in a regular season, I'm just gonna say, nah, I meant to do that, I meant to do that, I'm just gonna turn it on in the playoffs. They were up by a lot, so the home run was insignificant.

He notoriously would do stuff like this in spring training also, like build up confidence in here That's why they call him the professor. It's always thinking head. Well said I don't know why the way This is what I told you and and it's early on watch the Chiefs and Travis Kelsey I'm just telling you some of this may be going on with Travis Kelsey. You just give people Oh Travis Kelsey playing possum I'm telling you come playoff time. Kelsey's gonna be there, he's gonna be wide open, he's gonna have a 75, 80, 100 yard game like that.

It's a great strategy, think about it, because you want people to think that Kelsey is down now, but when you get to the postseason, Kelsey explodes, right? You're not paying enough attention to him, you're probably putting the wrong guy on him, and then all of a sudden, Kelsey becomes Kelsey again because it's the postseason. You start doubling on Xavier Worthy.

Oh yeah. Travis Kelsey, open right up the middle. Xavier Worthy and Kelsey is laughing down the middle of the field. Yep. I mean, unbelievable. Why is it that Xavier Worthy just keeps getting a couple of catches for 17 yards

when he's faster than everyone else? And why is Stugats being allowed to talk chiefs here Stu got minor penalty two minutes for chiefs talk Something to look at I don't know if it was the music in that story But I got goosebumps during that Greg Batick story. It was just good music underneath. Taylor Swift on the World Tour, Travis Kelsey two different places,

maybe getting a little stem cells injected into him. Can you guys explain to me how it is that you come about believing that a player is so good that he would purposely give up a home run to Jeff Bagwell because he knows he's going to face him three months later. I am fascinated by the mind games that these people play. And when I saw the clip of Greg Maddux talking about Barry Bonds and Barry Bonds talking about Greg Maddux, I found their game to be fascinating the same way that you

might be interested in the podcast that's now defunct of LeBron James and JJ Reddick just because you want access to one of these minds that thinks differently than everyone else. For example, Stan Van Gundy says of LeBron, LeBron's the all-time leading scorer in the sport, but what Stan Van Gundy says of LeBron is the thing He's actually best at is passing He's better at passing even though he's the all-time leader in the score and scoring and so when you get Access to a brain like that when you get access to two brains like that Greg Maddox and Barry Bonds

Talking about how Barry Bonds was pitched I can't get enough of that information because it's not exactly Rich Arrelia. Like it's also not Eddie Perez telling the story. It's like the very top of greatness. And so while I call bullshit on the story, the thing that gives me some pause is it was eight to nothing. Yeah.

And Mike Gregmaticdux say, you know what, I don't care about my ERA. I don't care whether I'm giving up a home run here, I want an advantage three months from now. You know, Nate McMillan, right? NBA coach, former player. I've never met somebody more scared of an opposing player than listening to Nate McMillan

before a playoff series against LeBron. He was telling stories, and he would be a little quiet because he thought people were listening. Tell a story about how he would have to show his sign secretly because LeBron is basically telling everybody what they're doing the second he sees a signal.

He would run the play for them, and I've never seen a coach just stunned by it, just flummoxed, like doesn't know what to do. You're looking at him and saying, wow, so you're definitely getting swept here. Because this was like game two and he knows nothing of what to do with LeBron when he's calling out his plays

and that's the type of just genius that you don't get from every other player. Dan, I don't wanna throw us off here but Jeremy is just awkwardly standing out there waiting for you to go back to him. He has more baseball stuff and he's just kind of awkwardly standing there. All right, let's go to the useless sound montage now I want to just hear all of the people in football who had football things to say that aren't in any way interesting Like Moses, I'm gonna die leaning on my staff. This is the third year anniversary of my grandmother's death, which today, the 22nd, she raised me

and I was kind of giving her the business after those first two plays. Like, what the hell you got in store for me? Honestly, I haven't seen them flinch. But I didn't feel any blink or anybody running away. Happy for our guys and proud of their effort. You mentioned how we don't get it. Whatever, keep going, keep firing away. They told me this city was going to burn if we came in here and won the game, so I guess it is.

Everybody deserve a game ball. At the end of the day, I've not done a good enough job. We're an 0-3 football team. I'm an 0-3 head coach. It's embarrassing and disappointing. He's a dog, man. Good team win. I mean, shoot, they're hard to come by sometimes in this league.

And a purpose mindset is knowing that through bad things that happen, that if you let it, you'll get better. Losing's frustrating. They made more plays than us. That's a good football team. Flow of the plays than us. That's a good football team. Floor of the game, I think that's a good football team. I've never won a game scoring three points. So I think collectively, starting with me,

that just needs to be better. We have to get it figured out fast. We've been able to win. That speaks to the character of the team, the grid, how we've been in these situations before. My first opening drive touchdown in my career, by the way. It started out fast. We wanted to do that.

I thought our guys came out with the right attitude, the right mentality from the start, and we never slowed down. I think there was definitely some individuals that made business decisions. And we'll make business decisions going forward as well. Just continuing to battle, continuing to fight. And there's a lot of guts.

There's a lot of resilience in this group. And it's just one game. Played complimentary football. You got a complimentary football, you got complimentary football. We got to look at the tape and we got to decide this week on a short week, you know, some of those answers. Obviously watching the tape is going to help and at some point you got to go do it. One game at a time. You don't win a Super Bowl, get into the playoffs with three games and I think this team understands that. Part of the way the guys fought throughout the entire game. We were fighting the whole time, and I thought guys really stepped up.

Not every game's gonna be a fairytale ending. There's a nakedness in this business at this level. There's nowhere to hide. When you got a challenge like that walking in your venue, you better fight. Let's be real clear, they gotta fight. They don't have a choice. Tomlin is unbelievable sound every week. He says nothing so well. Antonio Pierce, I didn't think that was useless sound.

You lose to Carolina and he accuses his players of making some business decisions and then says, we'll make some business decisions as well. How did you hear that? Cause when I first heard it, I thought he was supporting them making the business decisions, but instead he was calling them out harshly. No, he was upset with them making business decisions

to save their body and to be healthy, you know, following weeks and the upcoming weeks. He's not happy about that. And he's just telling you that we'll continue to do that. Because that's who we have. That's how you answer a business decision with another business decision. That's what you do. business decision with another business decision. That's what you do.

If your players make business decisions, you as a team therefore have to make business decisions to counteract their decisions. Stugats, thank you for the clarification. I'm a bit stunned that Izzy has made it this long in his career without understanding what the accusation Antonio Pierce was making was. He's saying that instead of playing football,

they decided to protect their body and then lose to the Carolina Panthers. No, thank you, Dan. I understand what he was saying. It was the follow-up where he said, and we'll continue to make business decisions. Sounded to me like he was saying, save your bodies. We're not going to be any good. So I'm looking at the Raiders transactions to see what business decisions were made after the game. And on September 23rd,

cornerback Sam Webb was reverted to the practice squad. And on September 24th, the Raiders signed Sam Webb to the active roster. So it seems like the business decision was sending someone down to the practice squad and then bring them right back up the next day. Now I'm hearing it. We will make business decisions.

And then they put Marcus Epps on the injured reserve list. So it seems like no business decisions have been made by the Raiders. Antonio Pierce was threatening his players who continue to make business decisions with the Raiders will make the business decision of sending you to the practice squad for a day

and then resigning. I heard Will. He said, We'll. That's where we messed up. By the way, Brian Dayball announcing the anniversary of his grandmother's death was probably the closest Dan has ever been to spitting water all over this studio. That was by far the funniest randomness.

Yeah, we had almost a spit take there at the idea that the second useless sound was somebody talking about their dead grandmother and where they were to help the Giants win on Sunday. Well, the way that game started wasn't great. Yeah. The third year anniversary of my grandmother's death. Immediately fumbled the ball

and they gave him a touchdown on the first play. By the way, this poor Sam Webb, what a yo-yo of a season for him, huh? September 9th, he was sent down to the practice squad. September 14th, he was brought up from the practice squad. September 16th, he was sent back down to the practice squad. September 21st, he was brought up from the practice squad. September 23. He was sent back down to the practice squad September 21st He was brought up from the practice squad September 23rd back down September 24th back up

That's the guy you hired to make an example of that's funny because anytime you go to a practice squad anyone in the league can Have you that's got to be just a feeling of like I'm just going back and forth like no one wants me every single time I go anyone can have me and still yet Nobody wants you think Sam Webb just has all of his stuff packed 24 So he doesn't even take the stuff out of the box. I just don't know I mean, he knows he's probably still gonna stay in the same place two days later, but he just doesn't know it seems like a Real purgatory. Can you imagine you guys coming in every day and not knowing if you're going to be sent outside and told not to work with? The your teammates and then brought back and then sent away

and just spend your whole season on the fringes of the sport. Seems lonely. Let's go out to Jeremy in the other room in his special purgatory. He wants to talk baseball desperately. Jeremy, what do you got? Dan, we have already discussed the NL West and the AL East,

but the AL wild card is where it's at. I want to start with the Nationals and the Royals. The Nationals are out of it, but the Royals, who are right now in one of the final wild card spots, have been the worst offense in baseball since August 29th. Team batting average of 202, team slugging percentage of 303, and we saw already, Otani and Judge were left on deck in huge moments for their team. Well, the Royals go into extras with the Nationals, Bobby Witt Jr., their slugger comes up to bat in a 0-0 ball game.

Let's see if he can come up with a game-winning blast. There's a big lead at second base and Junior grounds it to the left side. Nunez charges and throws and a bounce and the ball gets away. Here's Isbell down from Ford and the Royals take the lead. Real slug from Bobby Wood Jr. He's going to come in second at the MVP. A game winning infield hit against the Nationals in 10 innings. That's what it is for the Royals.

The other teams in that wild card race include the Mariners. They lost last night to the Astros. Wait a minute. To clinch the division. Billy's making a skeptical face and I always have to stop and go to Billy when he's making a skeptical face. I'm watching. I don't know why we're watching errors but I'm watching. That was an error not a hit. Yeah.

Well Bobby Witt is the one who comes through for the Royals by just simply putting the ball in play. That's how bad they've been offensively trying to make an example of that, guys, by showing that the only way they could score is a little dribbler to the shortstop. But the Astros have four straight division titles. The Mariners drop down. The Twins had an opportunity against the Marlins, but Jonah Bride and them boys with the Miami Marlins take down the Twins in Minnesota. And that allows the Tigers to gain more of a lead.

My Tigers against Dan's Rays yesterday, Tarik Scoobal dominant again, seven shutout innings, and after their win, the Tigers released this hype video. Detroit's playing a different game since beginning of August. They keep winning. Don't shut up about the Detroit Tigers. What they've been able to pull off. And the gritty Tigers.

Seeing what they've been doing. How the heck did they get here? It really is an unbelievable scene. The Tigers have something powerful behind them. the Detroit Tigers. What they've been able to pull off. And the gritty Tigers. Seeing what they've been doing. How the heck did they get here? It really is an unbelievable scene. The Tigers have something powerful behind them. And look at where they are now. AJ Lynch really said, I'm taking the kids and we're going on a run. They're playing team baseball.

They are showing up to the park every night. It's just they're grinding it out. Like the most confident team in the league. Well they've gotten hot at the right time. The best record in the sport since August 11th. So I think that they've got something going. I think this is such a great story. They're my favorite story at the right time. The best rep in the sport since August 11th. So I think that they've got something going. I think this is such a great story.

They're my favorite story in baseball right now. Detroit Tigers fandom, I am with you. I am with you Tigers fans repping the Detroit Tigers hat right now. That's my team, the Detroit Tigers. You guys are the best. And if we look at the standings, Chris, Baltimore ahead, but Detroit and Kansas City tied for the second

and third wild card spots, with Minnesota and Seattle now two and two and a half games back, that's the Beal. All right, enough of this. When did this guy turn into Jon Stewart? I mean, just like tossing the clips right and left. Did he cut that video himself? Did somebody put his voice in there? He is making me like baseball even less.

I mean, it's unbelievable. He just threw to a clip of himself. That's the only reason he played that Tigers clip. That's the feel. That didn't work an hour later. Jen CFB is next. I gave that to him. Howdy, folks.

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Don Lebertard. Mr. Sh FT ball down. Lebatard Mr. Mr. Shirt, if I may say for a second, Miami, they were simulating the snap count the entire game and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage. And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Met in my face, my shirt. All right. So that's one thing.

Stugats. They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met. And he can watch if he wants. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. Welcome to another episode of Jen CFB. Jessica Smetana here.

Lucy's in her house in North Carolina. I'm here in New York City, the cradle of college football. And we're gonna talk about some fun week four games. But Lucy, I wanna start with the game that you got to see in person. Number six, Tennessee on the road, and number 15, Oklahoma. Probably, I don't know, game of the weekend.

It was a good one. What did you think? It played out pretty much exactly how I expected it to. Maybe a little more like, OPE from Oklahoma than I initially intended. Their offense is anemic. It's really bad. I felt like I was watching an Iowa game for a while just at that game, except for just

kidding our offense is great. So yeah, it was one of those things where like Tennessee is just better across the board. Their defense is better, their offense is better. Just they are a really, really good football team. Oklahoma is a stout defense. They're really, really good, but that offense is anemic. They had to bench Jackson Arnaud, which they probably should have done earlier in that game.

And I think they got to move forward with that freshman throughout the rest of the season. They have Auburn this week, which is kind of weird. Yeah, it was just like a weird game where like things were just odd. It didn't really feel like Tennessee was necessarily dominating them in the first half. Oklahoma turned the ball over

and just like horrible, brutal. Our defense makes a great play. We fumble it back the very next play twice in that game. It was just like kind of like a welcome to the SEC for Oklahoma. And I think it just sort of established how good Tennessee is and they are very, very good. Are you a little worried about some tackle issues with Tennessee moving forward? Because I believe they lost both of their starting tackles in this game. The Oklahoma defense, I thought played really, really well, like we said, but, you know, having to replace your quarterback before the half because the starter isn't doing so well,

not the greatest. But I guess moving forward for Tennessee, are you worried about injuries? Are you worried about the offensive production against a really good defense? Like what's your concern level for them? I'm not too worried. I'm not crazy familiar with the injury situation. My whole thing with Tennessee is they don't have that difficult of a schedule. Now I'm saying that knowing they have Georgia and Alabama remaining on their schedule. But the outside of that there's not a ton else there. And like if

we're looking at the big 12 team playoff picture, you can losses to Georgia and Alabama so like I think Tennessee's in a really good spot right now I'm not too worried because Oklahoma does have a phenomenal defense like a really really good defense and Tennessee was able to hold their own so I I'm not worried about Tennessee I think they've proven they are a really really good team and like they did not play their best football against Oklahoma so I expect them to keep improving. I think they're really good and they have Alabama and I believe three or four weeks and that's kind of when we'll have the true like how good is this Tennessee team really moment.

Yeah, it was a good one for them. They have a bye week now. And then like you said, they play Alabama and Georgia this season. A lot of the conversation about Oklahoma coming out of this game has been the quarterback situation. Obviously, they were quarterback last year, left, went to Oregon. They could have held on to him, but they wanted to see how Jackson Arnold would be. And this is sort of an ongoing narrative thread throughout college football this season. It's really an anomaly to have multiple quarterbacks in your quarterback room like Texas has with a returning

veteran and a five-star prospect who's willing to wait for his turn. Although this year, of course, Arch Manning got his first start this past weekend because Quinn Ubers was hurt, but that is a pretty unusual situation. So a lot of teams are having to gamble. Like, do we let go of the veteran guy? Do we try to find someone in the portal? Do we think that our, you know, underclassmen who is a highly recruited prospect will transfer if they're not going to start the season? And so I'm curious what your thoughts are on that. Obviously like the quarterback position is a pretty unique position in college football

in terms of, you know, there's only one starting per team most of the time. Some teams do have to, but it's, I think it's probably hard for coaches to sort of like make those calls. And for Oklahoma, it doesn't seem like Jackson Arnold has worked out so far. Like you said, Michael Hawkins came in.

It seems like they're pretty high on him, but Oklahoma maybe could have won this game with a little bit better quarterback play from the jump. So how do you think this goes moving forward for teams trying to like work on maintaining a competitive quarterback play season to season? I think you just have to be willing to make the change when it's right. And like I do think that Oklahoma did that against Tennessee. Now, even if Arnold hadn't started, I still think Oklahoma would have lost that game. I think that Tennessee is a much better football team than they are. And I feel like a lot of Oklahoma's issues in this game

were very self-inflicted. I think it's just like as a coach understanding, like, hey, sometimes you just, I think the big thing that like actually stood out from what you're saying is you have to plan it out in the sense of like, are we willing to let this guy transfer if we don't play him? And so with Oklahoma, Jackson Arnold hasn't worked out

and he hasn't really worked out in the games previously to this too. Like Oklahoma has not been an offensive juggernaut at all this season. It's kind of wild just the way their head coaches have completely switched. I just think when you're making these quarterback decisions, like you just have to be willing to adjust,

be willing to make the changes. And Kirk Ferentz, if you're listening right now, that was to you. I was saying that to you Ferentz, if you're listening right now, that was to you. I was saying that to you directly, just in case you're listening. I know it probably is, but that one was for you specifically. Yeah, and Oklahoma, to be fair, they do have some some injuries on the offense as well. So this season, we're recapping college football with Cheez-It, and we're feeling the cheesiest with cheese it Lucy We are yeah, we are five and we are feeling super cheesy And now we're gonna talk about I think the other really big game this weekend Michigan and USC at the big house

How much of this were you able to catch and were you surprised by the result? I? Was not able to watch a ton of this. I was very surprised by the result. I do feel like I called this though a little bit, not in the sense that I thought USC would win, but I came on June CFB last week and said Michigan should never throw the ball again. They should only run the ball. And that's exactly what they did. And it worked. To only have 32 passing yards is bad, crazy, but it's kind of one of those things where like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You have a great running back, you have a solid offensive line, you have a great defense.

If you can't pass, just completely eliminate that from the playbook and that's what happens. I would say that although yes, they ran the ball incredibly well, the biggest takeaway I had from this game was USC's offensive line needs some work. Things are looking kind of rough there. I don't know how many times Miller Moss was sacked, but I know he was like pressured a billion and 10 times and just could not have the time of day to get the ball out to his receiver. So what we know about Michigan coming into the season is true, which is they have an amazing defense, they can run the ball really well. And you might as well just do those two things and just not worry about

the stuff that you're probably not gonna figure out with Alex Orji or Davis Warren. Yeah, like you might not win every game with this strategy because better defenses than USCs are going to be able to do a better job of shutting down your run game, but it certainly worked this past weekend.

Lucy, we've accumulated several fun stats while we recap the rest of these games. So I'm gonna give you one right now. Michigan had 32 total passing yards against USC. The last two teams to beat a ranked opponent throwing for 40 or less, Army and Navy. So Michigan among great company with the option schools, the Army game, they had 40 yards

when they beat Air Force in 2023, Navy zero yards when they beat UCF in 2022. Of the 32 passing yards, which one was your favorite? The 32 passing yard number six. Passing yard six. Mine was actually the 10th passing yard. It was a good yard. I enjoyed watching them get that one.

I was a little surprised by this result. And I think Michigan fans were too. They were not expecting to win against USC after the Texas loss and after the quarterback change. I think they were surprised how well they ran it. But like you said, Michigan's defense is still really good. I mean they were in Miller Moss's face the entire game and I thought they did a tremendous job. But now we have to move on to an even more important game in the Big Ten. Illinois, they beat Nebraska in overtime Friday night. And now Nebraska falls to eight in 31 in one possession games since 2018.

And Illinois has their second win over ranked opponent the first time that they've beaten two ranked opponents in the same season since 2007, Lucy. What a game. I got a fun set for you too. So Nebraska in the last like 10 years has played like eight overtime games. They have never scored a touchdown in any of those games and I believe they've never accumulated a first down in any of those over times. Like they are so horrendously historically insanely bad in these close game like situations I

genuinely believe it needs to be studied by science because it just it's like mind-boggling to me how they continue to be so bad at this because when you look at teams that have close losses normally there's like a turning of the tide we're like oh wow they had a lot of close losses last season the next year they tend to win a lot more games because they're adjusting that Nebraska just keeps losing these close games and I genuinely don't know how it continues to happen in just the most mind-boggling what the hell fashion. That overtime series for Nebraska when they were on offense was like hard to

like it was it was atrocious. It was like slow it was bad like all the credit to Illinois their defense played really well in this game gave Dylan Royola a really big difficult test. And I thought Illinois offense Luke Altmeyer, they played really well too. So now they're going into a game against Penn State this weekend. That is a lot more, I think, interesting for Penn State than we thought it would be going into the season. But yeah, Nebraska tough, tough loss. I mean, they were so close. And like you said, they can't win these games. Like I saw someone tweet a picture of Scott Frost and it was like, you can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

And I thought that that was perfect. Yeah, it's, it's just genuinely like, and I don't like Nebraska per se. They're very rival of my school. But I watch those games and I feel really bad for them. I watched this game in the Chili's, which felt really right. Like just the perfect establishment to watch this game at. And like I was rooting for Illinois, but I was just sitting there being like, as much as I think it's funny that Nebraska loses like this, like how

like there should be therapists at the game. Like there should be mental health professionals hired by Nebraska to so their fans can have someone to talk to after this just continuously happens and happens and happens again. Speaking of needing a mental health provider, our friend Taylor, he had a rough weekend. He played football at North Carolina. They lost to James Madison 70 to 50. James Madison scored 53 points in the first half. And not only is this North Carolina's eighth loss as a double digit favorite since 2019,

it's the fourth time that they've lost by double digits as a double digit favorite. And oh my God, was this a hilarious game to watch. There was so much just insanity happening. Mac Brown was like, I'm going to quit after the game. He was like, this is so bad. I might need to resign. Lucy, did you get to catch any of this one?

Because it was the silliest game of the weekend, I think. I caught a little bit of this one. I think it's something that like the general college football fan may not know is like the last few years you've heard of James Madison being a very dominant team like a like a really good group of five program they all transferred to Indiana. That's not these guys that beat Carolina. Like James Madison I believe beat Gardner Webb by like a point, like a few weeks prior. Like not like the typical just like juggernaut James Madison. Just, oh my God, they beat them 13 to six, sorry,

not a point, but absolutely bat crazy. And like, I'm still kind of confused on the Mac Brown stuff. Like he quit and then he unquit. But I don't know how the unquitting necessarily happened. I think he just, cause Stan's at it. He was like, I quit. And then he showed up Monday, like nothing happened. I know there was like a lot of conflicting reports

about what, Taylor unfortunately can't talk to us right now cause he's in the control room, but we'll get his statement on it. He did, I will note, he did predict all of this. He said, watch North Carolina without a Drake May or Sam Howell and it's not gonna be pretty. Trust me on that one, guys. And he was absolutely right because, and woo, they really, really, really played bad

in this game, Lucy. And like they made so many mistakes too. I actually walked into work today in the New York office and I ran into John Skipper who's a Carolina guy and he was like, now Jessica, there comes a point in every North Carolina fan's life where you realize we are a basketball school

and that happened this weekend. And I was like, yep, that sounds about right. So that was my limited fake John Skipper. I hope you liked it. Pretty good. All right, let's move on to- Johnson. Oh, only a nine? Yeah, John Skipper's from the town next to mine,

so I know the accent really well. Okay, well then I guess a nine's pretty good. So that's cool. Yeah, really good. Okay, Lucy, what do you want? We have like 10 minutes left. We can talk about Monmouth getting their first ever FBS win over FIU.

We can talk about the Iron skillet game, SMU and TCU, Sunny Dyches got ejected. We can talk about Utah at Oklahoma State. That was a big game. Or we can talk about the Colorado Baylor, Hell Mary at the end of the game. I think we've spent too much time not talking about Colorado Baylor, which is very weird for me to say. Normally, I would love to avoid talking Colorado football and honestly Baylor football at any possible time. Baylor is not good. Is David Aranda on the hot seat? Feels like he has to be, right? Yeah, he's definitely he's lost 15. Baylor's lost 15 of their last 20 games.

And that's pretty bad. They were they lost a lot. I think there were three and nine last season. We have a video that someone shot in the Colorado student section. We're gonna play that right now of the Hail Mary. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost.

It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost.

It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. It's over, we lost. Where was the defense, Lucy? My favorite moment of this weekend was a Baylor beat reporter at Zach Smith gave a tweet or whatever that said, Baylor head coach Dave Aranda said the defensive play call on the final Hail Mary had a name, Victory Cigar. Why would you admit that?

This is a bad look. Don't be talking about your Victory Cigar play call on the worst Hail Mary defense that I've seen in a long time. It just lie about it. If he wasn't on the hot seat, which he was, you said victory cigar and they lit your ass on fire. Cause why would you say that? Literally just lie.

Just don't, just say no comment. Don't tell the truth. Oh man. Actually bad shit crazy. Yeah. So anyways, a lot of good games this weekend. Utah, their defense is really good. Oklahoma State always are having a quarterback issue.

I mean, both of those teams actually having quarterback issues. I don't know what's going on with Olly Gordon, Lucy. He has not rushed for over 50 yards in any game against an FBS opponent this season. Absolutely crazy. I don't know what's going on. I haven't watched a ton of Oklahoma State football

this year, but like Olly Gordon coming into the season was the best running back in the entire country and like was an absolute monster last year. I don't know if teams have just learned how to like defend him or if Oklahoma State just like, I don't know if their offensive line is having issues. No clue what's going on there, but like genuinely no excuse. He's so good that he should have 150 yards every game, at least, a million yards every game, at least. Yeah, he just, he hasn't looked great. And Kansas State, lost to BYU. Missouri, almost lost to Vanderbilt, went to overtime.

But we have to move on now to a preview, a little preview of what's to come in week five, and we'll be right back with that. Now this week five preview, I can't believe it's already week five. That's crazy to say. The season's like a quarter of the way over. That's insane.

I don't know why it feels much shorter. Okay, but this week five preview is brought to you by Hampton Farms. Get nutty with Hampton Farms Peanuts, the official snack nut of the tailgate. Now we do have to do one quick, just little honorable mention before we go into our week five preview.

So we just mentioned Kansas State lost to BYU. They didn't even lose BYU. They got absolutely destroyed by BYU. And there was a Kansas State fan that tweeted he would shove a Taco Bell burrito up his ass if Kansas State lost to BYU. And unlike Florida State guy, he is a man of his word. He has been live tweeting through it all. And I believe this Saturday,

he will be putting the burrito up his butt. And BYU tweeted Liv Moss after they won. They were so good. So good. I don't, Lucy, I'm not gonna lie. This is the part of college football where I'm not sure. I'm happy for other people that are paying attention to paying off of bets that involve horrifyingly disturbing bodily things.

I'm not one of them. So you guys have fun watching that. I'm going to be over here watching something else. Look, I'll probably watch. I got to be honest. I probably will. And I'm not proud of it, but I'll do it. And I'm doing it for the show. I'm not doing it for me. I'm doing it for you all. I'm taking one for the team.

But I do appreciate this guy. He's standing to what he said. And like, you know, you have to have some respect for that. I mean, less respect because you're shoving Taco Bell up your butt. But still a little respect, I guess. I mean, respect for the people that want to see him pay off a promise that he made. Lucy, I'll make you a promise. If Notre Dame beats Louisville this weekend, I promise I will go to Flanagan's and do the

buy a pitcher get six wings for free deal next Wednesday. All right? I'll make that promise to you right now. I'll go get myself some wings if they lose. I'm gonna be at that game. I thought you said if they win. Oh, I meant if they lose. Okay.

Like, oh, oh no. Oh no. Okay, either way, I'm gonna go. You're so brave. Thank you, braver than the troops. I'll be at the Notre Dame Louisville game this weekend. It's gonna be on Peacock. Louisville, they're fun.

Their offense, not bad. I'm intrigued by them. Yeah, Jeff Brom always has a really good offense. Louisville, and I never, I'm always saying that wrong and everyone gets so mad at me. I'm sorry, just pick one pronunciation and stick with it and then just let me know Louisville fans. I think what's like weird about Louisville to me is they, I don't think they've played anybody. I like not even close to anybody. No idea what we're getting there. Still big giant question mark, which at week five, I feel like I should kind of know a little bit better,

but this will sort of be like, is Louisville good or not? Yeah, Notre Dame, keep an eye on Notre Dame's passing attack. Riley Leonard has been really good running the ball. He is a fantastic running quarterback. Their passing attack coming from issues Notre Dame even had last year with the pass game. It struggled, he only has one passing touchdown this season but Notre Dame's coming off of two blowouts.

They beat Purdue and Miami, Ohio after that horrible Northern Illinois loss. But you know, Notre Dame, Notre Dame and Louisville, it's gonna be a good one on Peacock. And then the game of the weekend, I think Lucy is fair to say, Georgia had Alabama 730 on A, B, C. Are you going to be at this game? You don't know yet? I have no idea. Well, they're both coming off a bye week. Georgia has had a little bit, I think of a bye week. Georgia has had a little bit, I think of a bigger test so far this season when they played Clemson. So we know that Georgia can score against a good defense. Alabama so far has had a little bit

of an easier path to get to this game. But they've been really fun to watch. Obviously, Jalen Milro, he is an electric quarterback. Their freshman wide receiver, Ryan Williams, he's only 17 years old. He already has four touchdowns this season. And Georgia hasn't beaten Alabama in the regular season, Lucy, since 2007. So this is going to be a huge game for Kirby Smart to prove that he can beat Alabama. Although of course, if Georgia wins, they're going to be like asterisks. It wasn't Nick Saban because Nick Saban has owned this series. I think five out of the last six wins, Alabama has won, including three SEC championship games and of course the national championship.

So this is a fun one for fans of college football. I don't know who to pick in this one because it's at Alabama. Because my guts telling me Georgia, but I could kind of see Alabama pulling it off too. Oh, I'm not betting this game. I'm not touching this game from just a preview standpoint. Genuinely no idea.

These are two of the most talented teams in the country, if not the most talented teams in the country. It is in Tuscaloosa, but I'm curious if there's like a little bad blood because Georgia probably would have won the national championship last year had they not lost to Alabama in the SEC championship game. So like, there's just so many narratives and things going on. This is Kaylin DeBoer's first really

big game as head coach of Alabama. I have no clue who's gonna win. I don't even care to guess who's gonna win. I just know this is going to be an awesome football game and like what I think we can all agree that if this the winner of this game goes on to win the national championship, no one would be surprised. Yeah. George is a road favorite right now. Two points as of the recording of this podcast, Lucy, these are two of the teams that I always say, I don't care who they're playing, where they're playing, who they're playing against.

I'm not picking them to lose except for when they play each other. And then I always pick Nick Saban. And so far that's, that served me well, but now you can't now he is the head coach. And I am really excited to watch this and see how Georgia does against a new head coach at Alabama, but still a very well oiled machine. We also have this weekend, Virginia Tech playing at Miami. Miami's finally getting into their ACC play. We have Washington at Rutgers, which is a classic Big 10 matchup on Friday.

I can't wait to watch that. And we have a couple other big games. Like we mentioned, Illinois at Penn State, Oklahoma State at Kansas State. Kansas State losing that game, making some guys shove a burrito up his butt. We'll see if they rebound. Oklahoma State too.

I feel like they're just not, like I don't know. They're just not very good. The Big 12 is making me very confused this year I kind of think you Tom I just run away with it even though they don't have a great quarterback situation right now Yeah, it's they're like the reincarnated pack 12 or half the pack 12 teams came over and then they all just were like yeah We're just gonna keep beating the shit out of each other. So nobody gets to be good Yeah, pretty much. Um, but yeah, it should be a fun weekend Lucy. Anything else before we go?

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