The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Making Time (feat. Dave Dameshek & Matthew Berry)

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

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I'm curious what you guys think of something I said earlier this week when we were talking about Dion Sanders and Michael Irvin and the position that Dion Sanders finds himself in at Colorado, where I was reading about his health issues, two toes, amputated blood clots that are causing leg pain and also. so an intestine that's functioning as his bladder in a way that makes them have to put a portable toilet on the sideline during games because he had bladder cancer and so he's going to the bathroom a lot and there has to be a bathroom right on the sidelines and if you're dion sanders at this point 58 and in health that is making you have a press conference after a loss where you're apologizing to the reporters because you've had to hide pain all your life Football players don't talk about pain, don't talk publicly about pain, but here you have two amputated toes. It's painful for him to walk.

A lot of people believe that Dion Sanders had some sort of natural gift that a holy man reached into his crib. But that was a person who was very prepared for football. Like he cares deeply about football. And now the kids are gone. The kids might need you in Cleveland or in Jacksonville, but you're coaching Colorado. and there has to be a toilet on the sidelines for you because you're at an age where health stuff happens. And I just thought to myself, I said it matter-of-factly,

oh, he's going to leave that contract early, right? He's not going to just keep staying there fighting. And I said it matter-of-factly, and I don't think it's fair to say it matter-of-factly because he said, no, I'm in a hurry to get back. I don't miss practices. I have to get back. And I just thought that at this point in his life,

all of that wouldn't be worth the amount of inconvenience, no matter how much of your identity you get from being football guy? People have questioned Dion's commitment to wherever he is, because wherever he's coaching, people always talk about him at the next level. Even last year when he was having success, like Jerry Jones, would he possibly bring him in? I think, because of all the reasons you just outlined, people should stop doing that. He has bought a lot with what he's overcome. to come back and it's not easy.

He's got Caden Salter now. He doesn't have Shedora Sanders. He doesn't have a Heisman Trophy two-way player right now. He is going through the hard stuff. There's not college game day and going to Boulder these days. It is pretty impressive to see what he's

gone through, what he continues to fight through, to be there for a whole new crop of kids. I'm not actually questioning his commitment. I'm questioning whether any of that is worth it to any human being who has accomplished what he's accomplished in his life. Health stuff goes to the top of the list on how do you feel every day?

I think everybody would understand if he decided to step away at this point. If he did so, and we didn't know about his health battles, and it was after Shador and Travis Hunter left, people would use that as confirmation bias for preconceived notions. But I think he has bought so much in the last few months with things that have been made public that I think everybody would concede. you can do whatever you want here. Once he's volunteering physical pain during games in the press conference because of blood clots and has already had two toes amputated and was a symbol for athletic virility at one point.

Youth. To me, I wouldn't think that all of that is worth it if every physical step is painful. But let's bring in Dave Damage Jack. I've told you already and told you before Football America is a very good podcast, smart podcast, funny, clever, quirky. Your thoughts are what here? I didn't mean for it and I don't mean for any of it to sound like criticism of his commitment. I'm just looking at it from afar and saying

all of that seems not worth it given that's as high as that's all going to climb. Like I don't believe there's a next job for him that is higher than that job and so why do it? But what are your thoughts here, David, as we welcome you in? Oh, listen, if I'm on a big heater at the 21 table, I

am wise enough to pick up my chips and walk away at some point. Yeah, I hear what you're saying about Dion, one of the most charismatic figures in football over the last quarter century, 40 years. But then that informs Chador in Cleveland. And I think that is the paradox of Dion is beloved by even in a way that I don't think very many other football luminaries are. He's beloved by today's players. Like 24-year-old cats love Dion Sanders and know the lore of him in a way that they don't know about Jerry Rice or Jim Kelly or guys like that. And so the weight of that is on Shador, and it kind of makes it clear to me like, yeah, that's why nobody wanted to draft him because of the baggage of his prestigious old man, right? I mean, that's how I hear what you're saying.

I know you're talking about Dion, and I'm turning it into a Shadur conversation. Yeah, I mean, of course I wouldn't hang on there. I feel like Dion is on some level, and I'm going against what you guys are saying, and I'm being more cynical about it here. I feel like no matter what Dion was going to disprove everybody's sake, like, well, he's going to walk away as soon as Shadour and Travis are gone. he'll be out the door with them. I think he was going to go back no matter what just to say like, see, I'm still here.

I mean, I can't imagine under any circumstances, him being in Boulder, Colorado as the head coach of the Buffalo's in, say, you know, three years, four years. I think there's. Well, I just think once you throw the health stuff in with another variable, which is he's not relevant and he's not going to get relevant there, it's not going to get more relevant there than he already was at the start. Like, he's already done the top end there. He is a top 10 paid coach in the sport. I think he's right around eight. I mean, there's a lot of financial reasons to stick around and tough it out. But I'll take the opportunity to transition to the pros since you mentioned Shador.

Well, I will say one of the great stories in football lore is the Bill McCartney, Salonessie, Colorado Buffalo, that Salonessie is making time with Bill. Bill McCartney's daughter and impregnates her. And now Bill McCartney surely has some feelings about that. And then Sal Onessie takes ill and then becomes the inspirational figurehead of the Colorado Buffalo program. Imagine how Bill McCartney must have felt with all the stuff he was doing on the side with spreading the good word. And now his daughter. Damasek, you're one of the strangest people in the universe. What are we talking about? Mike was trying to transition to some of it's one of the funniest stories there is. I'm sad.

No, but now you've got to explain it to Tony now because you use the phrase making time with Bill McCartney's daughter. Who the hell is Bill McCartney? He doesn't know what you're talking about. Between the sheets in the bed. No, no, I get that. No, we got that part. I don't know the players. I don't know the characters we're talking about. We got that part, but we don't know the players. Anyways, we do know Shador Sanders, who reportedly told the Baltimore Ravens he didn't want to go there, which is funny because that would have been as quick as pathway to possibly play. But the Baltimore Ravens are a seven and a half point dog. I read earlier today that 60% of the AFC offensive players of the week played the Baltimore Ravens in that week that they won the award. So Dave, a lot of people have yet to write this team off. But if they do and Dean miss the playoffs this season, that's it. That's a window closing, no? You know, it all starts with, with the Baltimore Ravens, this era with Lamar and all of that, and a fascinating discussion to be had is, does Lamar at this stage in his career need to sort of look at Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant and the mid-career adjustments they made fundamentally in the way they played the game? This Lamar Jackson with the string of injuries now.

Like, I mean, you know, it's not like, you know, I got dinged up. I mean, this is, you know, a plague now through his MVP, you know, laden career. I mean, he still keeps having to sit down for long stretches here. The John Harbae element of it is here's the amnesia everybody has about this. They had the signed Joe Flacco after he wins the Super Bowl, so they're saddled with that luxury tax of having to keep the guy who won them the Super Bowl. But then it hamstrings them for the next several years, They get Lamar Jackson at the back end of the draft after the Jacksonville Jaguars take the great Taven Brian instead of taking Lamar Jackson.

And midway through Lamar Jackson's rookie season, they're scuffling along, they're under 500. And the Ravens and John Harbaugh agree, that's it. We're going to part ways. And there are public announcements about this. Like, great run. We're just going to move on from Coach Harbaugh after this year. you know, all that kind of stuff. And then Joe Flacco gets hurt.

And they have to put Lamar Jackson in and they take off. And now all of a sudden, John Harbaugh's gotten another, however many years it's been, of like, what a brilliant savvy. Look how nimble he is. He adjusted. He went from Flacco to Lamar Jackson and didn't skip a beat. He just got jammed into having to put Lamar Jackson in there. So yes, long story short, Mike Ryan, I do think that this is probably the point to take the off ramp

with John Harbaugh, as good as he is, and as quickly as he'll get scooped up by another pro football team. Yeah, I think that this is where you have to pull the plug, because we can talk about, here's where Nick Wright and I park our cars in the same garage on this show and otherwise. It does matter what you do in January, and they don't do anything in January, even though they have the guy who's won multiple MVP's at QB. Yes, this would be the place to move on and reassess them. I can't believe what he's saying here. It feels like the window's closing here, man. It's five games.

There are seven and a half point dog at home because 160 million of their $280 million salaries are hurt. But it's not getting any better next season if they miss a playoff. You're not parked in their garage? Can I throw an idea out there? Baltimore Ravens called the Pittsburgh Steelers. And they say, you know what? We want to propose a trade. John Harbaugh for Mike Tomlin.

Whoa. Do you do it? I'm not interested in that because that's... That doesn't address what the Steelers problem is. But yeah, that's kind of a fun comp. I mean, who is perceived to be the better coach at this point? I'm hardly objective on the subject. What are we doing in general, okay?

Because he's not wrong about Harbaugh and what happened with Lamar Jackson, but we can do this to anybody. Belichick didn't want to play Brady. Like Bledso's lungs filled with blood, and then he had to play Brady. I don't think that's true, though, Dan. I think that, in fact, I've talked to guys who were in that locker room and the only guy, even after, in the AFC title game, Tom Brady is in there, starts the game in Heinz Field after the tuck rule and all of that, survives that. He starts the game in Pittsburgh. There are, I think, nine and a half or ten point dogs or whatever they were. I was in the stadium that day. Oh, my God, he knows. He happens to know.

Come, everyone. Come and listen. happens to know. He happens to know. Well informed. It was 14 to 3 at the half. You know, it was a shocker for the Patriots. You know, this who in the hell are they? They got the, they got the Michigan Wolverines backup quarterback playing against us and we're losing 14 to 3 at the half. And this was at the start of when they had halftime performances. I don't know if you've heard about the big announcement about Bad Bunny getting a lot of heat. But anyway, this was at the dawn of this era where they jammed in pop stars into half-times of big football games. And Cheryl Crow hits the stage at Heinz Field. The locals are just besides, we're beside ourselves. And Cheryl Crow steps up on the stage. He's like, how you doing, Pittsburgh?

All I want to do. But boo, everybody booed. It was a terrible day. Anyway, after they survived that game, Brady gets hurt. And Bledso has to come in during that game, throws a touchdown pass. The Patriots beat the Steelers that day. Even after Bledso coming in as the relief pitcher and playing hero there, everybody in the locker room knew Brady was the answer, including Belichick.

It is a ball's move, if you think about it, that he has the highly paid Drew Bledsoe, and he decides to roll against the mighty St. Louis Rams in the Super Bowl with Tom Brady. But apparently it was not that bold a stroke. according to, you know, I've talked to, like I say, to a bunch of those guys that were on the team and they said, oh, no, there was no question about it. It had to be Brady and the Super Bowl. No, no, but I wasn't talking about the

Super Bowl. I'm talking about Brady's first start. Belichick didn't want to play him. Bledso got hurt on the sidelines, his lungs filled with blood and then Brady's their starter. This is going to happen here with Carson Wentz now. Like, J.J. McCarthy may or may not be good, but Carson

Wentz did something at the end of the games. And until he loses, they're not going to take him out. They'll keep him in there because these coaches don't actually know as much. We give them a lot of credit for stuff, but you just fired John Harbaugh after five bad games when his entire roster is hurt. Well, you know, what's funny about, I mean, the best, most recent example of that is Jackson, Dart, and Brian Dable. Dable did not want to have to put DART in until the last possible moment of the season, where he absolutely had to pull the rip court. He wanted to ride with Russell Wilson because riding with Russell Wilson extends his job, the life

of his job, as long as they're getting by with that. And at the same time, I think there was a case as recently as before Thursday night football that you could say like, well, what Danny Dimes is doing as Indiana Jones there is worthy of Brian Dable losing his job in New York, that he let him out of the building. It's the same effect that I keep saying over and over again about, you know, the Steelers letting George Pickens out of the building shows a flawed approach. Same thing with not drafting Jackson Dart when he was sitting there when you need a quarterback. So Brian Dable, you could make a case like, man, this cat doesn't know what he's doing. He let, look how good Danny Dimes is with better coaching there. But now all of a sudden, that's obscured by the fact

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The judge coach, sweetie. Stugats. I should say hello. This is the Dan Leibatar show. with the Stugats. It is weird to me the way that we take these leaders and we assign all sorts of intellect to them that they don't often have. He is... Like Nixie or Riani? Well, that's one, but it feels like I can do this with a whole lot of people

I know, but you need, but you need to have, like the must have with very few exceptions, Andy Reed, the era of Andy Reed and KOC and McVeigh and Shanney and all of that. And amidst this, like, you got to have a progressive, offensive-minded play caller and orchestrator of all things. And while all that's going on, Nick Siriani has been in two of the last three Super Bowls, both against the Chiefs, and he won one of them? Nick Siriani? the guy who yells at his own fans? That guy? It's paradoxical. And I advise the 31 other teams to not pay any mind to what the Eagles are doing. Whatever voodoo they have worked to earn that

Lombardi, it is not your business. Same thing with the tush push. And I heard you talking about that earlier very quickly. I just want to say the idea that like it's boring and all of that completely agree. But I thought last Thursday night, the Rams against the Niners, Mack Jones is out there on one leg and with his weird, his weird bosoms that he has

that are created life pads. He's got pad tits. He's got those, whoa. He's got a ripped jersey, Damashek. What are you talking about? I thought his performance was admirable. I just said as much. It was great. I thought bosom was singular. But he does

nevertheless. He does, Look at me. He's titsy. But anyway, listen, listen, he wasn't farting his way down the field, as someone once said. That is a great way. If you want to campaign against the tush push, Dan, that's the way to do it. Do we want to watch these high-end athletes fart their way up and down the field? They've got Adrian Brown and Devonte Smith.

I know, I love it. I got her. But listen, Mac Jones, they can be nihilistic with him. He's the backup QB. But still, in the big. spot. They said, hey, Mac, we need you to tush push it here. And so he did, and they got the first down in that spot. So with two minutes or so left in the game or even less than that, I thought it was telling, or I guess it's in the last 45 seconds or 30 seconds even. The Rams are in a spot to

get into the end zone. I'm trying to, I'm fuzzy. Or was it just to get a first down within the, you know, there are two minutes left in the game. And they can't, but the point is they couldn't push. All the fumble and all, you know, they couldn't, they had to run with Kyron Lacey in tight formation. I mean, Kyron Williams in tight formation and everything. They, they couldn't use Matthew Stafford because of his bad back to push. And so that's a competitive disadvantage that the Rams now have that we need to pay attention to through these playoffs. And so therefore, I think you kind of have to keep the push, at least for this season, but it's all a moot point because after this season is over, they are going to get rid of it,

no matter how much anybody likes it in Philly or otherwise. David, it's now week six. Is this an acceptable time to have Baker Mayfield as my MVP leader? I mean, if you want to start with this jive, go ahead, have time. It's just, you know, there are only so many minutes left on the big blue marble. And if you want to devote them to talking about in early October, who the MVP of pro football is, have at it. I like to talk about more important things like this.

My son, my 11-year-old boy came to me the other day. of the blue. Just, you know, there wasn't like it was a part of a ongoing discussion. He came to me and he said this, potato or tomato. And I said, what do you mean? Potato or tomato? He said, you can only have one for the rest of your life and then the other one is out. You can never eat it again. I turn it to you guys. Potato. What's the, well, that's the easy answer. You got to take it easy. Don't jump into something because this is the rest of your life now. You're a limited. Dominating tomatoes as an ingredient on everything. Get Alfredo pasta.

No, I, I, Bye-bye potato. Hello tomato. You'll never have French fries again? Are you insane? Or chips? You can't have ketchup. Mashed potatoes?

Here's the thing. Never going to have? That's right. All sauces. Almost all sauces have a tomato base. Italian sauces. I mean, here's what the wise asses say. Like, so what?

I can eat Alfredo. But listen, you're going to be awfully resentful of that. that 200th plate of chicken piccata at the Italian restaurant while everyone around you is eating meatballs and spaghetti and pizza and all the rest of it is it you will come to resent Italian food very quickly. You know what else is out without tomatoes? Barbecue. You want the same same effect like oh I can I can go dry rub. How much dry rub do you want to put one pass in your lips for the rest of time without sweet barbecue sauce to go along with it? It's a very tough question.

I'm not saying there are easy answers here. You flipped me. Salsa. Yeah, you flipped me. Get out of here, potato. Well, wait a minute. Okay, it is a more difficult question than you thought because everyone's instantaneous reaction is going to be. I've got to keep potatoes.

But then you eliminate pizza. Now we've got a real problem. We've got a dilemma. Here's the other thing for, one more thing on tomato is, oh, by the way, potato, if you're a vodka drinker, it's out. So that's a shame. Mike Flintes called that one out. So is the Bloody Mary. Well, and also, for me, I love with my French fries.

I like some ketchup. And now I don't get that. So, you know, that's a big loss for my French fry eating. Damashik, I will tell the people again to watch Football America twice a week, Mondays, and Fridays on YouTube, where he does whatever he wants, as he does on our show when we ask him questions and he took it to potato, tomato, and we were trying to do football with him. He does whatever it is that he wants to do. He's a hater. He hasn't forgiven him for winning that

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Stugats. Football. Football. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. One of the things that he mentioned from that Rams game because I thought he was talking about something else. I thought he was talking about the last two minutes of the game. Yes, the Rams lost that game because on fourth and short,

with the lead late, they couldn't keep the ball because they couldn't convert on a fourth and short. But late in that game, Al Michaels and Kirk Herb Street said because there were two minutes left in the game and the Rams were in position to win it and Stafford had the football, he said there's no one you want more in this situation. There's no one you want more having the football in this situation than Matthew Stafford. And I think he's probably right, isn't he? Like for all the conversations that we had all along the path of, is Matthew Stafford

worthy of being the highest paid quarterback in football. He was for one time, so was Carson Wentz. As a value trait, the one that Mahomes and Brady have is that late in the game, everyone knew, including the other team, you don't want him to have the football. That's where we are with Stafford, right? We're approaching there with Mayfield. I'm still expecting, as Mike makes Mayfield MVP in week six, I'm still expecting the game when Mayfield throws the interception late because that is some he's a reckless quarterback it happened against Philadelphia he had another opportunity down the line but yeah but with Baker big champion for healthy amount of interceptions I mean because he he goes for throws and

no one else but but but when I'm talking about trust late in games I no longer expect Matthew Stafford to throw the late interception I did when he was in Detroit he's not a different quarterback Baker Mayfield spoke to this this week okay because he says, I used to be immature. I used to be reckless. I haven't changed. I'm still the same person. But now that we're winning and I'm at the top of the standings

and we've won the division four straight times, now the perception of me has changed. I'm going to keep slinging it fearlessly and sometimes I'm going to throw interceptions. I told you guys I try and not get too high, not get too low, which is something that I was not doing early on in my career. But, you know, early on in my career, yeah, it's looked as cocky, immature.

now it's moxie he's a dog so it's same different day just as long as you play well they change the narrative but you just got to be yourself and i've always been like that i was going to say have you changed that much i mean everybody has a natural growth and we're not meant to stay stagnant but you still seem at the core the same person yeah at the core definitely the same but um yeah matured in different different ways not worried about little things that really don't matter now you put it in the the landscape of a competitive football game in that atmosphere, that'll never change. Can you guys just freeze that right there? Just freeze the end of that. And I want you to look in both stature and body language. That does not look like an NFL quarterback. In stature and

body language, just how he's sitting there, that is not the quarterback to be most feared in the league at any time in my lifetime, except for perhaps before I was born when Sonny Jurgensen was a quarterback of small stature, like physically, look at the way that he doesn't even fit in that shirt. He does not look like the guy who's leading you as the greatest of the warriors. It's an oversized shirt. Look at him. Just look at his body language. You're used to the quarterback filling the screen. I don't mean this is any disparagement of it because the balls are not on the screen. And if they were, he would then have the stature of an NFL quarterback. I love that he could have very easily played into whatever narrative you want the NFL media.

It would further endear yourself to the media. This guy learned how to mature. This is the story. No, you guys had it wrong. I was this kind of dog the entire time. I went in the Pittsburgh with a Cleveland Browns as a number one undersized draft pick. And I won a playoff game. I try to play hurt.

They got rid of me. They had me as DN Scout team on Carolina. You had it wrong. I haven't changed. It's almost like the RG3 thing where it's like all. all these great coaches, like, they didn't know how to coach me. That's basically what we're looking at. Only in this instance, RG3 was right, whereas RG3 is kind of a joke because he's like

going at like Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan, I'm like, all right, but these are like the greatest coaches of the air. But you look at Sifansky, and it's like, Stephansky's a good coach and it's like, didn't know how to use them really. Batched it, botched it. But I will say from talking to people that were really plugged in, maybe that had to happen to Baker in Cleveland. Like the locker room had turned against him.

There was like a Miles Baker thing. And they went with Miles. That seems like I happen to know. That feels like... He happens to know? Great Scott, he happens to know. He happens to know. Gather everyone.

Get the children. He happens to know. So wise. They did a bad job of mending those fences. Baker probably shouldn't have played through that injury and everything was made worse both his performance and the relationships that he had in that locker room

were made worse by him trying to be out there for his team, which is something that has remained consistent throughout his career up into this day where he puts out a social media posting him standing in front of his teammates, not a solo photo, him in front of his teammates in that tunnel as he's getting heckled and said all sorts of foul things in his direction. Name the place, name the time. Speaking of football, we have a guest in the wings here who is going to give you something that you really want right now. Matthew Barry, Matthew Barry, Matthew Barry, Matthew Barry, Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry.

He's really got to like that as intro. It's strong. Anybody would want to be introduced that way, even if their name weren't Matthew Barry. Like, he's here to give us very fast. It'd be odd for someone else. It would be, but I'd like it if it was my introduction.

I have to be honest. If I had that music, I would like it, even though my name is clearly not Matthew Barry. Everyone here is, look at how hyped everyone is. They're here hyped for fantasy, Matthew. Can you hit a rewind one more time?

I love the intro so much. Let's do it again. that he can just go straight into giving you maximum information as fast as he can when you need it this weekend. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I love that music. That's great. I'm going to make my wife listen to that. Listen, Dan, last year, so far this year, no team has allowed more touchdown passes than the Baltimore Ravens. They've given up eight in just the past two weeks before.

Over the last four weeks, Matthew Stafford ranks fourth in fantasy points per pass attempts. Stafford gets the Ravens this week. So far this year, there are only five teams in the NFL with a higher pass rate over expectation than the Denver Broncos. Bo Nick is averaging 35 pass attempts per game and this week get the Jets team that allows touchdown passes at the second highest rate in the NFL. So far this year, the San Francisco 49ers are allowing the fifth most receptions to opposing running backs. This week they have to face Rashad White a good past catching running back who on the year last week had a 12 and a half percent target share. He also had 75 percent of the Buccaneers.

Total team touches. I saw you talk about Baker Mayfield. Baker and White will be busy on Sunday against the Niners who have allowed, by the way, 120 yards to scrimmage to an opposing running back three of the last five games. Rashad White about to go off. Over the last three weeks, only Chris McCaffrey and Josh Jacobs are averaging more touches per game than Quinn John Judkins, who plays for Baker's former team, the Browns. And it's worth noting.

that no team allows more rushing yards per game or higher yards per carry to opposing running backs than the Chicago Bears. I bring that up because last week we saw the emergence of Bill Kroski-Mirrit Jekori, as some people call them, 6.6 yards per carry highest in the NFL for a running back. Every single game this year, Tetaro-McMillan of the Carolina Panthers has gotten at least eight targets. Wide receivers that have seen at least seven targets against the Cowboys this year are averaging 26 fantasy points for game. And every single one of them scored at least 15. game is coming, and it's coming this Sunday. By the way, over the last two weeks, Stefan Diggs is the 10th best wide receiver in fantasy

football. He's had back-to-back games with a 40-percent target chair. He's the 10th best fantasy wide receiver without a touchdown every week this year, but one Cortland Sutton that's finished as a top 16 wide receiver. Two last things here. Last week, Jake Tungis, is those San Francisco 49ers tied in. He had a 23% target chair. He scored in three out of five games this year, and each of the last two games at Tampa Bit

Buccaneers. have allowed multiple touchdowns to opposing tight ends. Not saying he's awesome, but could you do worse 100% if you're desperate for a tight end? And by the way, over the last two weeks, no tight in the NFL has a higher utilization score than Mason Taylor the Jets 88. A utilization score is a metric that we came up with at FantasyLife.com that uses all the underlying data to come up with one simple number of how a fantasy player, how an NFL player is used in fantasy statistics,

and it's an ultimate predictor of future fantasy success on a scale of one. 100 base of Taylor's in 88, the highest of any titan in the NFL over the last two weeks. So from everything that you just said, Matthew, can you tell us what you believe to be your surest bet this week? Like the thing that you feel most confident in based on what you're watching in terms of mismatches between here's a team's strength versus a team's weakness? Yeah, it's a little dangerous because I'm banking on Bryce Young, who has struggled so far this year, but I'm a huge believer in Tedroa McMillan's ability, his usage, and it's an unbelievable matchup for the Cowboys. So I am all in on Tederoa McMillan, and I do believe a big breakout game

is coming, and I feel like it's going to be this weekend against the Cowboys. Rashad White, as well as we talked about the Buccaneers running back, just the workload he's going to get and how much the 49ers struggle against past catching running back. So those are my two biggest ones of all the ones I just told you, Dan. Again, for the audience, you guys know that this guy does it better than anybody when it comes to giving you information that's very well-informed. It's very hard to predict this stuff. All he's doing is probabilities, but it's very researched probabilities. He's well-informed. You can find everything Matthew's got on fantasy. FantasyLife.com. Check out his fantasy football happy hour, Sundays at noon on YouTube on

YouTube, Chris. Every day on YouTube, Chris. It's Monday through Friday on YouTube, noon Eastern, and then, of course, on Peacock, and wherever you get podcasts. Get it right, Chris. Yeah, Chris. No, it was a quick text for me. It's not Chris's fault. It is Chris's fault. I should have been clear. Chris is going to get chopped from the guillotine league, by the way.

I didn't happen to know. And from the show. Thank you, Matthew. Appreciate the time, sir. Talk to you next week. Thanks, Dan. See you, guys. Good luck.

Thank you, sir. We are going to open up the club here in a little while, and I do want to update some polls as well. What are you guys laughing about? You guys are just making fun of Chris there. You moron. Matthew Barry. It's really good.

It does save you a little bit. It is good. We have to fade it down so he doesn't sound like he's on the water. We're in a fantasy league with Matthew Barry Dan, and things are heating up in our fantasy league. What's happening? Are you guys beating him? No, well, I mean, there's basically like six of the 12 teams are active, basically, and we're getting to the point. It's the guillotine league.

So every week, the person with the lowest score, that week gets eliminated from the league, and then all their players become available. So we're getting to the point where now the sharks are starting to bite here. and we're getting down to the point where the only people that are actually competing are going to be left soon and we're going to see who's who. But you only have $1,000 that you can bid on each player on their blind bids for the entire season. Dan's spending a lot of money. Yeah.

You're in the league, Dan. I don't know if you're aware. The team that you are on has $8 left and we're about five weeks into the season. So a bit of mismanagement of the funds so far because you have to kind of plan for the full season here. Now, that makes things interesting because then you figure. out like do I have to bid this amount or do I only bid enough so that this person who needs this position can't get this player which is where we're at. He said he's high on Mason Taylor. We knew that from Matthew Barry because he spent $26 on Mason Taylor this week. When

if you're kind of paying attention to our league probably could have got him for three or even a waiver claim potentially. Don't hold it against Matthew that we stay. No, that he has more information. Matthew's somewhat at a disadvantage in our league because he actually knows what he's doing, and it's not a bunch of idiots who are getting players for $1 to $3 or $350. Mike Fuentes picked up Malik neighbors two weeks ago for $250. The next week, he tears his ACL and he's gone. This league is honestly awesome. I wish every fantasy league was like this.

By the way, Mike Ryan is about to get chopped. And it's guillotine league.com is where we do it. Don't tell him, so he's not paying attention. He's got some players out there. He's got some players. I got Jackson's with a jigum. I'm calling it. Gino Fuentes, a star of Football America, is the one who's spending prodigiously on my fantasy team in a way that is reckless.

He has $8 left. Unwise. $8. That means I have $8 left. Out of $1,000. I know. I'm just listening to this. I'm enjoying this.

He was there the whole time. He's been lurking. I just enjoyed this. This is great listening. I didn't realize I was overbid for Mason Taylor. I'm in, you know, I'm in a 20 leagues. I'm just like, what's he worth? I grab it.

You know, so there you go. So I was curious about that because we were talking Matthew off air about it. We're like, poor Matthew, like, he actually knows what these players are worth. So he's going in there's like, man, this person's worth $97. It's like, this idiot league we could have had him for like four. Yeah, I'm playing it like I'm playing it legitimately. Like it's a straight up league, a moron than I am. So are we.

We're playing it straight too. Yeah. There's no logic to this league. But it is, but at least you know, I practice what I preach is I'm sitting here, you know, touting Mason Taylor, at least, you know, I'm putting my money where... And Tech McMillan, too. Why are you still here listening to us talking about how

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