The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Matt Eberflus, Ryan Day, and a Bad Weekend For Football Coaches

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

It's the return of the Funniest Thing of the Sports Weekend, highlighted by Matt Eberflus and the Chicago Bears Thanksgiving collapse. Then, Andrew Luck is BACK, Stugotz has an idea for selecting the 12th team in the 12-team College Football Playoff, and Ryan Day was seemingly more bothered by Michigan planting a flag than people calling for his job. Speaking of Day, Lucy and Mike dive into Ohio State's disappointing loss with the most expensive roster in College Football history, and Lucy explains exactly how Rose was pepper sprayed after the game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Jersey City, New Jersey, please drink responsibly. This is the Dan Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Hey people, tell us what in the sport made you laugh hardest this weekend? In this segment we call, What made you laugh this weekend? Ha ha ha! Exciting! Wow. It's been a minute since we did this.

Let's go around the room. Mike Ryan, what do you believe was the funniest thing from the Sports Weekend? A lot of people would say your tears. I'm sorry they feel that way about me. I think I've been pretty rational about this one. I'm giving them their tears. But for me, the funniest thing of the sports weekend

was just, I was screaming at the TV like a lot of people were at that final drive from the Chicago Bears that caused Eberfluss. We then afterwards said, no, we executed. That's kind of how it was designed. That was crazy. They went 33 seconds in between plays. They had a shot at a field goal at the very least they could have ran

Three plays but they they ran one they lost it was it was really dumb and it cost him his job Literally that press conference like they could have just not let him talk and just fired him But they're like go ahead do your press conference. He did the morning press conference. They fired him after lunch. You're fired Is that a man that knows I'm getting fired? but they're like, go ahead, do your press conference. He did the morning press conference. They fired him after lunch. You're fired. Is that a man that knows I'm getting fired and I just want to give you absolutely nothing on the way out? Like I will not even give you the satisfaction

of acknowledging that I messed up the play calling at the end of the game. Like I know I'm done and you're not getting this. You can have my job, but you're not taking my dignity. I don't know how to describe it, but when I saw the blurb, the Chicago Bears have hired Matt Eberfluss I knew how it was gonna end. I was just there's no scenario

Just based on name. I'm sorry, and I don't know what I'm doing there, but no it's the name It's Eberfluss. There's just no way this guy ends up being a success You gotta change it. You can't imagine Bill Belichick's record on someone named Eberfluss. There's just no way. I saw that blurb. I'm like, oh, he's going to get fired inside a couple of seasons. This is a disaster. Look at that name.

Yeah, Eberfluss. The great coaches, their last names, Belichick, Lombardi. It's got to be someone like that. There is not a great coach with a name like Eberfluss anywhere, anywhere in sports, I would say. I think to prove your point, you'd have to pick someone that doesn't have all of the wins and just marry yourself to that name now. Because what you did was you just listed the quarterbacks with the best records.

Our coaches, yes. What I'm telling you is that right now, because Belichick isn't the common, the most common of names, but I do think it's funny that Stugatz doesn't take into account the idea that if Lombardi had been named Eberfluss, he would now be mocking someone named Lombardi for not being named Eberfluss. Teams would be playing for the Eberfluss trophy. Right. I'm torn on Ben Johnson.

What do you mean you're torn on Ben Johnson? I don't know if it's a good name. There's no way, look, Ben Johnson, safe name, safe hire. Eber Fluss, no shot. Let's talk for a second about the end of that game before we continue to go around the room, even though it was Thursday, because you rarely get confirmed as a fan

base or a sports consumer. Ah yeah, I knew I was right about that guy. That was a season of great expectations for the Chicago Bears. That particular game under other circumstances, making the adjustments to come back to look in the second half the way the Bears looked versus how they looked in the first half, would be a coaching clinic on Caleb Williams' growth and looking great toward the end of that game. How bad Detroit looked at home the second half. But you screwed it up the only way that you could to get fired on the spot, which was in a situation, StuGots. We make fun of a lot of broadcasters for getting it wrong.

My God, did Nance and Romo do a good job with no timeouts and no time to gather yourself to give everyone on television watching the panic of, oh no, Jim, Jim Jim no Like they knew what was happening as it counted down and they had the appropriate Tone to it and this is not a small thing because Tom Brady and a whole lot of others have to learn here at the eighth second mark Jim Nance gave an elbow to Romo cuz Romo was going to start talking and he just cut,

he clipped him because he's like, nope, I got to get this part right, Tony, get out of the way. Tony was in the middle of a thought and he clipped him because he had to. Yeah, Brady's been accused of talking too much. It's a main criticism for him. I think by comparison, it was a very bad week for Tom Brady because you had these isolated games where Tony Romo was really good and Considering what had happened in Greg Olson's broadcast Olson really brought it and made people long for him

It was a very bad weekend. I think I have to capitulate on on on Tom Brady I thought he was gonna be a good broadcaster because who else has these stories I wish he did a little bit more of that But this is a kooky setup with him not meeting with teams and him just bombing in and I'm not really sure what kind of opportunity he's going to have to get better. Olsen did such a good job communicating in a small window what I'm about to say, Stugantz, where he's warding off the criticism he's going to get by how he frames something at the end of the Vikings Cardinals game, a great game incidentally.

Yes, Sam Darnold Jesus. At the end of that game, Olsen ends up being happy for Aaron Jones, who's had a couple of tough weeks, has had trouble handling the ball and stuff. He had some tough plays in that game. Yes, also in that game. And what Olsen did was he said, and this is hard to do in small windows and something brady struggling with concise thoughts cleanly stated in small windows he's like we do not root for anybody out here

we are not rooting for any of the teams but sometimes you're allowed to be happy for people you know who are good people and so you undercut all the criticism that's coming your way from uh... cardinal fans who are gonna say you're rooting against our team. You're rooting, you sound too excited about what Aaron Jones just did against our team. Billy, what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend?

Dan, I'm gonna go to Highmark Stadium in Buffalo, and it's just a series of, I love a snow game. Yesterday felt like football. During the game, a Bills fan decided, you know what, I'm gonna do my part, because the Bills, they do this thing, it's very weird, where the Bills are like, you know what, why don't you come shovel all of our snow out here?

Like, oh, I get to go to the game? Like, no, no, no, no, no, just come shovel all of our snow so that the game can be playable. So I think yesterday actually offered, and they paid people like $20 an hour, which if you see the videos, it seems like there aren't very many supervisors there because everybody's just playing in the snow, throwing themselves down the chutes. Then the game starts to like, wow, the stands are still very much full of snow.

So I don't know what you're paying people $20 an hour for. Granted, there's two feet of snow, but like it seems like lots of fun is being had when we're inside the stadium cleaning up the snow. But a Brave Bills fan tried to do their part in that game. It was early in the game. I believe the score was 0-0 at the time. 49ers were lining up for a kick, which is very difficult in the snow. I don't know if you're aware of Dan. And a Bills fan, one lonely, sole Bills fan said, you know what? We don't know how this game's going to go.

I'm going to do my part. I'm going to throw a snowball at the football as it's going through the uprights and see if maybe I don't hit that darn football and prevent a field goal. And then we'd get in a scenario where I think we'd all learn together, what happens if a fan throws a snowball and hits a football midair and the football falls?

Is it just a do-over? Is that part of the elements? What do we do in this scenario? Because I'm not sure that there's a rule in the rule book about snowballs hitting balls in flight. I'm sure there will be next year though So the one fan funniest thing in the sports weekend that decided to throw a snowball at the football enough with the guy on Twitter Who's like, you know that the snowball wouldn't have done anything. It's like we got you. It's just a fun video guy

This is from Danny Parkins of FS one I also don't know what the ruling would be if a snowball did indeed change the trajectory of a kick. What the ruling on that would be. Maybe we should ask somebody. But this from Danny Parkins of FS1. The Bills lead the AFC in point differential 134, turnover differential plus 17, points per game almost 30 per game, rushing touchdowns, 21, and fewest sacks allowed, fewest sacks allowed by any team through 12 games since 2020. It seems like a pretty important statistic

when your quarterbacks are getting hurt as often as they are. Chris, what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? Purdue, pretty bad college football team. I could have just stopped there, Purdue. They went one and 11 this season, but I saw a fun stat. Purdue could have started every game this season with a 34 point lead,

and they still would have finished 66. What was the one in the one and 11 for Purdue? Who did Purdue beat? Because all I saw every time I looked up was Purdue losing 60 to nothing. You're wondering who has the shame of losing to Purdue this season? Well, the teams I saw that were worse, the team Oklahoma State won three games and watching them against Colorado, I don't understand how the worst teams

I've seen this year in the big, you know, big name schools are Purdue and FSU. But Oklahoma State was in the conversation. What I was watching, they did beat Arkansas. Yes, you see just means more. What I was watching they did beat Arkansas yes CC just means more what I was watching against Colorado made me feel bad for Oklahoma State fans who are always been fine being third in that conference because they didn't win a game in that conference this year they were 0 and 9 and didn't deserve to win any of the games in that conference and I don't know I don't actually know what it looks like

if one of these coaches just can't keep up with NIL, doesn't have the ability, I don't know what the, how I could tie the two things together to say that coach there got left behind by everything that happened because so much has changed about the sport. Well, you can see what happened with Stanford, which they don't really take on people from the portal, and they found the solution.

Andrew Luck is back. Oh, yes, GM. First game of the season, Purdue beat Indiana State 49-0. Wow. They did fire their head coach yesterday, by the way. Ryan Walter's gone. Andrew Luck, being the general manager of Stanford football,

I think all of us would say, yeah, like that face and voice of a program. I would also ask what are his qualifications for that particular job? He's Andrew Luck. He's a Stanford grad, he's smart. He's smart and his dad has loads of administrative experience. So Chris Cody that's sued by

His dad has administrative experience is Andrew Lux qualification times. That's all it takes Name GM for For st. Bonaventure. This is a new position great hire. Hold on a second. What did you go to college for checks? He graduated the bachelor's degree in architectural design gotta be smart to do that building a program. What did he go to college for? Checks? He graduated with a bachelor's degree in architectural design. Gotta be smart to do that. Building a program. Who would you hire? I mean... Somebody with qualifications. Yeah, but he's not Andrew Luck. Who's gonna go work for Stanford football though? Somebody who has to wait in a line and do training to get one of the great jobs that there are in sports because he's trained to have that he or she has trained to have that great job.

But again he or she not Andrew Luck. Agreed. Yeah I mean that's the perfect hire for Stanford it is. It's him or John Elway. Who are you doing the Hulk Hogan like ear thing for right now? Because like we're all cool with Andrew Luck getting this job. Yeah what's happening? Why do you guys think that I'm doing the opposite of the Hulk Hogan ear thing? The ear thing is because you want something heard. I'm saying something unpopular. Everyone universally applauds this and I'm simply asking, what training does he have to be running an entire program? Shmaining. What training does any of Stanford football have? Exactly.

Right. I was just asking the question. That's all I was doing. People should pay their dues. No, I did your luck. It's fine. I doing. People should pay their dues! Oh, oh, oh, ah! No, Andrew Luck, it's fun. I'll say something crazy. What? Yeah, okay. It's good for us.

Yeah, I, yeah, that's all that matters. And really, really, who cares how Stanford football goes, right? I mean, I think that's really the bottom line here. No one cares if they win or lose as long as we get Andrew Luck back. During the break, Stugats, who was saying it's good for us, runs everything through the prism of what's good for me. And during the break he actually had a good idea, which is that the 12th team in the playoffs should be chosen by a randomly selected committee of just fans and the team they want to see in that the 12th team that the committee chooses the first 11 But a group of 30 just randomly selected fans Decide who they want to see in the 12th spot now. I think a lot of people would say Miami this year

I would go Colorado. So this is a this is a treat Florida State Boating McBoatface, let him in finally Lucy what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? I have a one and I have a bonus one. So my first one, a little personal bias. Iowa beat Nebraska this weekend, 13 to 10. They did score more points than Ohio State did. Iowa won this game while only converting five first downs.

Nebraska had 21st downs, Iowa had five, went 0 for 10 on third down conversions and won this game. Amazing. Lucy Rodin, Iowa correspondent. I believe they had 20 yards in the first half and that was it. So it was very impressive. My bonus one is a fun little stat. Out of the 2021 Ohio State recruiting class, the only player who beat Michigan is Quinn Uers. Wow.

I wanna get back to the Ohio State and Michigan game, but Stu Gotz, what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? For me, it was Adam Feld saving Billy's life. Aaron? Or Aaron, yeah. He saved his life, Dan. It's that or there was a new world record for the longest putt ever made.

Did you see it? I did not. 139 yards. The guy swung the putter like he was swinging a driver and it went in the hole. A football field and 39 yards? Yep, 139 yards, yes. It's great, you gotta watch the video. That's like a hole in one on a par three, isn't it?

To do 139 yard putt. What was the previous record? Because- 138. That is what I will do if I'm on a golf course. On the fairway? Yeah, well, just because I don't know how to hit the correct wedges and anything like that. The putter I can hit, I can always hit the putter. That is crazy.

That's a crazy amount of distance to be able to do that. I have played par threes that are shorter than that. We all have. If anyone's played golf, it'd be funny to see you go to a par three with a putter. Mike did it with a driver. I mean, he stuck it within five inches of the hole. I got four inches to go. I mean My funniest thing of the sports weekend because I did have a smile on my face for four days about what I am now claiming is

In contention for the funniest joke that this show has ever told in 20 years. The idea that Stugatz has not read his own bestselling book is funny enough. The idea that Random House didn't get the audio version of that book, unlike it has with every other author

it has ever asked to do that, even though it was paying Stugatz to read his own book and he still hasn't read his own book. And it's a bestseller. We cannot do better than that. As a joke, StugatzBook.com is where you go if you want to get your significant other a funny gift for the holidays and on Thursday Stu gots who is too big for a bookstore book stores are outdated Stu gots is not is going to be at a church near the bookstore so that all of the overflow capacity at the bookstore ends up at the church instead

worshipping our funny hero, Stugatz, who not only has not read his book, didn't do the audio version of his book, even though he was being paid essentially to read his own book. But by the book, it's not just me. The reason it was moved to the church was, it's also, it's Greg Cody.

Greg Cody and I will be out there, we'll be doing a little show together, a little Q and A, and then we'll sign some books. And so me and Greg Cody, the response was so big that Books & Books needed to move it to a church down the street. I'm excited for this. I really am. Me and Greg Cody cutting it up.

A couple others. We should give the people the information over the course of the week of where it is that you and Greg Cody will be on Thursday. Going back to the apocalypse that was the end of that Bears game, do you know how wonderfully succinct it is in a broadcasting moment for Tony Romo to say no for the second time during three seconds prefaced by Jim? No!

Like just the personal, the Jim No, when there's seven seconds left. And we're all, but it's just, it's whimpered. We're all thinking it. But I don't know. I knew that there was pity in his voice and I didn't know whether it was for Caleb Williams or Eberfluss or just football in general for

being disrespected by that clock management. Tony Romoisms have infiltrated every aspect of my life. Should we go out to dinner with Nicole? Yeah, Jim, no! Jim, no! One, two, four o'clock? Jim, witch an hour. We're headed into the cold portion of the year, and that means switching up the attire

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and that's the reason that I asked the question. I've always admired that about you, that you are, you have no problems whatsoever professing your love. Well, the thing is, I got a new wife now, me and Bianca didn't make it. So I moved on, we moved on, it was for the better for both of us. Stugats! Things just got a little awkward there so let me be the first on this show to congratulate you

on the new wife Vince congratulations on on on feeling whole feeling complete you know let's talk tailgating yeah don't be don't don't feel awkward buddy. You know, I don't It's too late for that I appreciate you soothing me in this regard But I already feel terribly awkward and then my teammate comes to my defense with not a question Just a healthy congratulations And the further pointing out of that awkwardness because he's always good for me in those spots I'm also thinking of divorce v after many many years, 18 years, with a partner who does things like that to you. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats.

Is there a lot of rosary bead clutching when it comes to the flag planting in the Ohio State Michigan game because Ryan Day, I found myself more bothered by the general caveman-ness of Ryan Day after that matter of factly saying, well, we're not going to allow that in our home field. Like, that- You can beat us on our home field, but you cannot plant the flag after you beat us. But just the whole idea of, here's this bad, ugly, optic thing,

even though we all kinda know this is emotional, this is violent, and throughout the weekend there were times that people are fighting because there's physical stuff all over the place that escalates and the most emotional time is right after you've lost on your home field. So I get why it is that he would be bothered by that. I'm speaking to the climate of caveman that after that loss takes a certain pride in we wouldn't allow that. That's a bridge too far. But people talking about me being fired when I'm one of the winningest coaches

there is by percentage over the last five years because I can't beat that team anywhere, the culture of football that surrounds some of this stupidity, which is, well, you know this is war for us, right? And at the end of war, what do you do when it's violence that is a real estate acquisition? What do you do? You plant your flag to tell everyone that you've been there.

When the historic echoing thing of that isn't gonna be the flag or any visuals of that flag, it's gonna be what they've done to your die job the last four years. Men are so emotional. They're so emotional. Oh, my God. I'd actually like to talk about that, like, just the game, everything that sort of transpired men are so emotional. They're so emotional. Oh my God.

I would, I'd actually like to talk about that. Like just the game, everything that sort of transpired before Rose got pepper sprayed. Um, that felt like just one of the most botched coaching jobs I have ever seen where the entire time to me, it really felt like Ohio state went in with the plan of we are simply more talented than them. They are a bad football team. We will win before the game. There was no sort of feeling in the air that this could be a potential loss. Like that fans are taking it very seriously,

but there was no vibe that made it seem like it had the past few years where Michigan was a very good football team. They won the national championship last year, but it was just mind boggling to me to lose this game. When you know exactly what Michigan is going to do. They cannot throw the ball to save their life. You know they are going to run. You know you need to have a plan in place for their defense. And you have the best receiving core in the nation. And it was just so like watching. I was like they are so unprepared for this.

Well, Howard played like shit. Like you knew what Michigan was going to do and you had nothing ready for it. Like I think that is one of the worst coaching jobs of Ryan Day's entire career. And I know that he has an insane winning percentage. 47 and one against all Big Ten teams except for Michigan. One and four against Michigan. Like do I think he should get fired for this?

No, he's a very good head coach. Every team in the country would be lucky to have him, but that's you're at, Ohio state that's the one game You cannot lose that is the one thing you cannot do it's just the whole time It was just I could not wrap my brain around how this was happening three touchdown three touchdown favorite Yeah, and it's it and it was funny as the game was getting closer, it kept growing.

Like no one saw this happening. Will Howard played like shit. Like it was so interesting to me. We watched the first half of this game up in the press box where we're looking from above and I'm like, Michigan clearly watched film. That Will Howard interception, he threw the exact same pick at Penn State.

Like it was so clear that Michigan was prepped and ready for this game and Ohio State wasn't the full we were going to the Big Ten championship. They had this just like insane of we are so much more talented We are not worried about it. It's just mind-boggling how ill-prepared they were for that game Can you guys give me some examples just to put some context for the audience on? examples just to put some context for the audience on uh... three touchdown favorite give me some of the other games this weekend that would illustrate to people because i know when it's ohio state michigan people expected to be close their giant programs but if you have not been paying attention michigan is very

limited this year so give me some other examples in the sport this weekend of teams that were a 21 point favorite So I can explain how weird it was to watch this particular Michigan team win that game at Ohio State And Ohio State did what it has done all season They've got the best goal line defense in the sport by percentage to God so they stop people on the goal line It's how they won the Penn State game. They did it to Michigan early I didn't expect Michigan to score very much at all in that game and Michigan didn't score at all in that game to watch

Ohio State's offense look like that was the part that I was not getting having watched Michigan's Michigan over the course of the season and being wildly unimpressed with what that team is It was such a bad day all the way around for Ryan Day because you had what happened on the field. You had what happened after the game. You have video of him saying what happened to one of his players after the game. So there's a coach not knowing.

And then later that night, you have Kyle McCord, or later that day, I should say, you have a quarterback that started for Ohio State last year, tear up the Miami Hurricanes, and you let that kid go. He's the leading passer in college football. Is he not, did he not break all of Donovan McNabb's

records at Syracuse, like this is, he is somebody who holds all of the Syracuse passing records, does he not? I think he does, I'll look it up, but he had a tremendous year and that guy played quarterback for Ohio State last year and he's beating Miami and Ohio State's quarterback is throwing interceptions and losing it home to Michigan. I believe that was Ohio State's largest loss

considering how much they were favored by since 1998 or something. And it's just, I cannot emphasize enough, it's not that you lost to a team that you were favored to beat by 21 points, you lost to Michigan when you were favored to beat them by 21 points. This is a bad Michigan team. Washington beat this Michigan team.

They were six and five. There was a graphic before the game that Michigan had the second lowest winning percentage after winning the national championship the year before in college football history. And you lost to them. The one game you could not lose, you lost. I would say also the quarterback decision. He was trying to be delicate because he was trying

to keep one of the younger freshmen on his roster. They let McCord go. McCord kind of played a lot more hurt than people knew last year, and it made him a little jumpy in the pocket and their loss was Syracuse's game. But I think maybe one of the bigger mistakes that Ryan Day made was,

I'm very familiar with what the transfer portal quarterback market was. Miami was talking to all those guys in the portal. They were talking to Will Howard. Cam Ward was there for the taking. Ohio State didn't show genuine interest in Cam Ward and they wanted Will Howard. Cam Ward was there for the taking. Ohio State didn't show genuine interest in Cam Ward and they wanted Will Howard. This was the most expensive roster put together

in college football history. And you lost to a six and five Michigan team at home when you were a 21 point favorite. That is bat shit crazy. And I was watching like the ESPN sort of post game coverage and their college football live or whatever. And Joey Galloway was like, you know, I think the thing that's worth noting is, you know, when I lost and player and we lost the game, it was never, this is the coach's fault. You know, Ryan Day can't make their field goal kicker, youer, make those two kicks or whatnot. But like you are a 21 point favorite.

This was the one game you needed to win and you lost. It is, I still cannot believe it. And then Rose got pepper sprayed. We're gonna get to that in a second. We gotta get to that. But I do believe that even though you're correct to emphasize again and again, 21 point favorite favorite I believe that means less than it ever has in college football Georgia Tech I think was a 17 and a half point underdog. What to Georgia?

Georgia? Yeah they were 19 and a half it opened at 20 got down to 17. So you're in a situation I know you've heard mike around here talking about the s e c getting a reputation it uh... deserves from the past but not from this year the idea that georgia has to go eight over times against the seventeen and a half point dog at eight over times uh... and that georgia would have two losses already and now doesn't have to play in its conference championship game.

Like that's something broken in the way that we're doing. They're getting in and they're getting in. But there's something broken in the way that we're doing all of that and that game was poorly officiated. Like one call goes a different way and Georgia Tech clearly wins the game and now Georgia's got three losses like that that part's a little bit crazy that Georgia doesn't have to play in the conference game was a 17 and a half point favorite needed eight overtime and referee. They are playing in the conference

championship game just to be clear they're playing Texas. Georgia plays Texas. But okay go ahead I'm sorry. That was gonna have to be their only path in if they if they lost that game they were in regardless but yeah I'm with you and I know this is coming it's gonna sound bad coming from a Miami fan because there was a Cal targeting call and there was the Virginia Tech thing but let's just one play the tip pass that they ended up calling a DPI on that's not a judgment call a call they reviewed the targeting it clearly caused the fumble there, he led with his head, you would think that that's called targeting, it wasn't. That's fine, still a judgment

call. What's not a judgment call is, was this ball tipped at the line of scrimmage? I kind of felt like there were so many missed calls in that game, so many calls that went for Georgia. That was a heist. That game was stolen from Georgia Tech. No, I agree. I mean, Georgia Tech did give up a big lead. So I always kind of think that like, you don't want it to be in that position, but it is a rivalry game and there were a lot of bad calls that if they had gone differently,

it's very clear Georgia Tech would have won. We would never have gotten eight over times, which I can't pretend I'm not happy that we got eight over time because they were really fun. It was a really good time. But I talked about this on God Bless Football today. I think that we're going to have to, after this season, look and evaluate. As conference championship games, do they mean anything? Do we even want them? Like, I know it does mean something to a school to say, I am the Big Ten champion,

but I think that they're hurting the playoff and they're hurting teams more than they're helping because you can have an amazing season. you can make it to your conference championship game and you can lose and it's going to bite you in the ass because now you have to play another extra game. You're not getting that extra buy. You're getting beat up. Then two weeks later you have to play again. We're like Ohio State losing to Michigan is bad and no one is happy about that. If you were an Ohio State fanps them just a teeny tiny bit.

By week. Yeah, they don't have to play Oregon this week, which is a very tough team to play. You've already lost. That's a physical game. And now you get extra time to prepare and you're probably going to get a home playoff game. I'm so happy you opened the door for this because I think the NCAA got really lucky this year with these mega conferences and not having divisions.

It's a shit storm. Look at all the scenarios. Texas, now that Texas A&M isn't ranked because they beat them, no ranked wins. You have a situation where Indiana can exist in one of these mega conferences and only play three teams with winning records. In the ACC, you have essentially three teams in the final week of the season gunning for a bye in the CFP, neither of them played each other during the regular season. You have to institute some divisions and I wouldn't be surprised if ultimately the solution is you have multiple divisions inside these conferences

and you actually have a semi and then a final because all too often we're looking at and trying to compare these resumes and these teams are in their gigantic conferences and they're not actually playing the teams they're in contention with. I think something that's interesting to look at is going into this weekend the Big 12 had nine teams that were still mathematically alive to make the Big 12 championship game. Going into the last week of the season nine teams were still alive. I miss divisions a lot and I know that I'm saying that as someone who benefited from playing in a very very bad division. Bring back legends and leaders by the way that was so funny and

it was so cool and I miss it a lot. But like I totally see what Mike is saying and I think that's going to be the case. You're gonna have like what I think is gonna happen is you're gonna have little quads within these mega conferences that are gonna look exactly like what the old conferences looked like. The other thing that's happening here, Sturgotsen, I know, I know no one cares about what I'm about to say. But when Mike says, and now we'll need a semi-final before the final, perhaps to alleviate some of this,

the amount of games that you're making these people play. I know. Yeah, but it's not an extra game. You're actually whittling down their conference schedule because you're in a division of four, and where you'll get pushback from the coaches, like, now I have two opponents that I don't have an ability to really prepare for

because I don't get my schedule before the year? I see it as really the only logical solution because you had way too many instances here, and they got lucky this year It could have been really bad where you have all these teams all bunched up They're supposed to be in these power conferences where they play one another and they don't Texas and Indiana really showed you you can get Really lucky if your schedule is decent like look at specifically at Indiana versus Ohio State Indiana had to play Ohio State and Michigan.

Ohio State had to play Oregon, Indiana, Michigan, and Penn State. It just happened to work out either, however you want to phrase it, either for Ohio State because they got a tougher schedule or against Ohio State because they got a tougher schedule. Like I know that they got rid of division specifically because of Iowa and the Big Ten West, and I get it. That's fair and I completely understand it. But in that case, you're now opening it up for everything to be the Big Ten West. And I get it, that's fair and I completely understand it.

But in that case, you're now opening it up for everything to be the Big Ten West. We're like, oh, sorry, your schedule just worked out that you're playing Purdue, Northwestern, and Illinois instead of Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. The Georgia Georgia Tech game was ridiculous. I don't wanna do the show, Dan, where we change the overtime rules,

but what they were playing at the very end of that game was not football. What I wanna change about overtime overtime is why do we have to go to the opposite side of the field for each new overtime? It's so embarrassing. Can't we just stay put? I have a babysitter and I'm losing like 90 seconds every time they're walking down these sides of the field. It's got to feel so embarrassing to do the little walk and everybody's just watching you yeah, can you walk all over there?

I said this I think it is the same energy of like riding around on a bird scooter. You're like So embarrassing we're like we're like walking back when you've just rolled in bowling. You're like this is embarrassing. Everybody's looking at me We just showed a putt that is twice as long as this walk that is making Mike pay his babysitter overtime as long as this walk that is making Mike pay his babysitter overtime. No! Just stay on the same side and the next team gets the ball first! We get it! It's a good point. All right, finally, too late in the show, Lucy. Take us through what happened to you and our beloved Rose, where it is she got pepper sprayed because she thinks that Metal Arc Media needs a war photographer. Okay, well, Rose was just doing her job

and she's done nothing wrong ever in history, except for sometimes she doesn't set her alarm so we almost miss our flight. That's wrong. But she doesn't do that as much anymore. So by the end of the game, so we were down on the field and towards the end of the fourth quarter, I think we all realized Michigan was gonna win.

So we had a game plan in place. Rose, follow the Michigan football team, go into the field for all the post game stuff, and then we're gonna run right out of the stadium and try to talk to sad Ohio State fans. Like that was the primary goal. So as the game ends, Rose follows the Michigan team over to the Michigan band and the cheerleaders and stuff.

And that's where they get the flag and they run back to the middle of the field. Rose follows, Harry and I are like 10 yards behind her. So we're like, Harry and I are a little backed up. Rose is like right on the outside of the action. In some of the videos you can see her. You're like, oh yeah, good for you Rose. But then she got pepper sprayed so it's not a happy ending.

And so we're standing there and a Michigan player runs up to us and starts throwing up. And I'm like, oh my God, guess it was a tough game. Guess it was, you know, it's really cold outside. And so I just didn't assume that someone got pepper spray because we're watching the fight tap and we saw people get tackled. We saw student assistants like on the ground

with like three cops holding them down. It was crazy. And then another Michigan player runs up and he's sobbing uncontrollably. Harry starts to like feel the pepper spray. I didn't feel it. So he's like, let's go. We run, we look back, Rose is on the ground.

And I, I'm so sorry. I'm just going to be honest. I started laughing because we are close friends. It was funny. Okay. And then we went and checked on her. We ran back, went into the line of action to make sure our dear Rose was okay. And all the Michigan players really helped her out.

They gave her like their towels and they had, you know, medics come. She was okay. And all the Michigan players really helped her out. They gave her like their towels and they had you know medics come. She was okay. She got pepper sprayed in one eye. A state trooper came and helped her. Not one who did the pepper spray but you know someone else. Let me play for people some of the sound here and video of you and Rose. I don't know if this has pepper spray in it but we'll see. All right, we'll check in. As you may know, I got pepper spray, but now I'm fine. I do not recommend getting pepper spray. It hurts, but I'm fine.

Thank you for asking everybody. I'm a survivor. Yeah, good luck pepper spray, bringing her down. So they were in the middle of people throwing up and crying, something you might actually see in a war. Like if it were an actual, like just- That was me watching Syracuse, Miami. Vomiting, crying, and pepper spray.

We do have a video of her yelling as she's getting pepper sprayed. Where is that? Oh, that's- It's actually a little bit funny. That's the great, that's the shot. Where is it? Where is that? Oh, that's actually a little bit funny. That's the great. That's the shot. Where is it?

I'll send it. Is it embargoed? Get it immediately. Who's embargoing this? Why are we waiting? How is it taking this long? Howdy, folks. It's Mike making this podcast time, Miller Time.

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