The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Miami Is a Chain-Snatching City (feat. Ros Gold-Onwude)

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

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the World Baseball Classic Championship, and now the All-Star Game Swing Off. What do you think he's proudest of of those? That once upon a time, baseball's all-time home run record was 138, and he has more than that. Jazz is like 40 away from tying it. I bet on Jazz in the home run

mr. I kept my own swing going did you see him afterwards just being like oh I tried to hit home runs but while keeping my swing we're Latin you know it's a myth that you get bad after the home run derby last year last year both guys that were the finalists their OPS's were better the second half. It did happen to Bobby O'Brey. It's just him. But we all remember it. Which is like how long ago? I should say Jazz Chisholm was plus 140 to hit more than 20 in the first round not to win the whole thing. I was gonna say plus 140 really good. That's a lot. Did you know the new rules? I did know the new rules. 40 pitches 20 home runs. That's quick math. I did it every other pitch

I did it with kind of narrow too when I won that one So but he barely I bet I'm going to win and he went first and I was like 16 is not gonna cut it I want to get to what Zaz low said coming in here today because he asked a question I have not heard anyone ask before it was jarring to me to hear it. He says does Caitlin Clark stink. Fair question. No it's not a fair question. It's not a fair question. Does Caitlin Clark stink? I think she's hurt. Dan, if I told you a player is shooting 37% from the floor this year and 28% from three, it's fair question to thing. All right, you think it's a fair question. I'm gonna bring in an expert and a champion, by the way.

I have breaking news here. Rosigold Anwude is a championship ring wearing, Emmy winning broadcaster for the New York Liberty. They have given her a, or they're about to give her a ring. You do not have a ring yet, correct? Not, but I remember I was on the show before and we talked about would give her a ring? You do not have a ring yet, correct? Not, but I remember I was on the show before and we talked about would I get a ring with the New York Liberty official.

I got a call from the team's CEO and leader and president yesterday. I'm gonna get a ring for the championship last season. Look at that. Is it a Fugazi ring? Is it like third tier, second tier, fourth tier? No, this is what we were talking about last time. Which tier do you get? Have you asked which tier you get? Oh my gosh, I would. I feel like that would be so rude to even care or ask about the tier.

I'm so thankful just to get one. Like this is the historic first ever championship in New York Liberty history since the beginning of the league, 28 years it took. This is one of the historic first ever franchises of the WNBA. And if you were talking New York City basketball history, this championship for New York City pro basketball, we've been waiting 50 plus years for it.

I'm thankful to have a ring, just to get a shot at a ring. I'm so excited. I'm from New York. Roz, from one champion broadcaster to another. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Do you wear your ring?

Do you wear your ring? Come on, Roz. When we go out to weddings, bar mitzvahs, nice events, of course I wear one. I wear one of my rings. I don't wear them both, that'd be really gaudy, not necessarily appropriate, I wear one of them. Yes, of course. Okay, Mike, I'm getting sized tonight,

so tonight I'm working the New York Liberty versus Indiana Fever game. They're gonna size me tonight, and my biggest question is, what finger should I wear the ring on? Probably the ring finger. What if I get married? You're right, you're right.

We gotta go panky. You got two hands. Panky. Oh, that's true. That's true. So what, have you thought about when and where and how you're going to wear it? Have you given this some thought?

I still think it's the cutest if you make like a little necklace out of it or something. Well, I don't know. I, wait a minute. Look at that. You allowed our, you allowed us to make that? Does that as you wear yours as a necklace? No.

The group didn't have a good reaction to her putting it on a necklace. Not a good idea, Roz. And so all of us- No, I love it. Well, we're not exactly fashionable people though. Here's the issue with wearing it on a necklace. High yankability, right?

You're in New York City. That's very true. You're walking around, you're hanging out somebody sees that You gotta you gotta be worried of the chain snatchers people snatch anything they talk Obviously he doesn't Chain snatching scenarios. Miami is a chain snatching city. Not where you live. I actually think that's really high level common sense and good advice,

especially for a girl roaming the streets of New York. Somebody might try to catch me slipping. Although I don't think I'm wearing the championship ring, like on the subway on the way from like Bedside or Queens or something. But you never know. Roz, Roz, if you have any champion broadcaster questions, you come to me.

Oh, absolutely. What should I be concerned? The pressure is on now. I mean, I think it raises the pressure now that they've given me a ring. Well, you gotta stay sharp. I mean, I looked at that pressure right in the eye and I won myself another ring the very next year.

So, I won myself. Back to back. So for me now, not so, just only because you brought up multiple rings, this would be my third championship ring because I have two with the Warriors. Get the ring off. All right, well.

All right, so you're in the game. More importantly, I feel like, you know, my teams win. You know, I feel like you should consult with hers as a winner than you. I got, I got under control. Tony, I'm really sorry. Okay. That you gave

Apology of substance. Really sound, practical advice. And yet you deserve nothing there in terms of getting your chain ripping credentials snatched from you by Billy, but it's Wild Willy Wednesday. You listen to Killian. And so you- No I don't.

Mike does. You have to eat that. You have to eat that for no good reason. You gave her great advice because she was about to do something that would have lost her that ring. Yeah, of course. You put it on a chain, somebody walks around and sees a massive chain with a ton of diamonds,

and you say, oh, let me just, kuh. And I'm guessing, I don't know if you'd be wearing it every day on a necklace, but if you're wearing it to a gala or something, now you're chasing a chain snatcher in heels, or like, you got no shot, you got no shot. Who's gonna steal a ring from you at a gala? What kind of gala is this? That's what I'm saying.

A gala's supposed to be elegant. If theala is supposed to be elegant. Leave the gala. If the only time that we're wearing it are weddings and bar mitzvahs, then you're not going to have to worry about it. Weddings and bar mitzvahs, I'd like to believe those two spaces are very safe. And that's where we said we're rocking rings. Look what happened to Bruce Wayne's parents. Walking outside of a play, all of a sudden, bam, gone. That's how it happened.

That's how it happened too. No, I rescind, I want to walk back on putting my ring on a necklace. I think that's a it happened. That's how it happened too. No, I rescind, I want to walk back on putting my ring on a necklace. I think that's a bad idea. After listening to the whole group here discuss it, I agree. In the Wayne family scenario, when they were trying to go back

to the Wayne family manner, the ring being on their finger or on their neck really wouldn't have made a difference. I mean, you could get it. If somebody really wanted to rob you, they could chop my finger off. That is true. That's happened, by the way.

Whoa. So when thinking of which finger to size, think of which finger you would miss the least. These are the kinds of considerations that I come to you guys for. I don't know why you would take advice from this group on anything. No one's more surprised than I am.

We're a team. Tony gave you great advice there. Zazz came in today saying, asking the question, and now doubling down on it being a fair question. Go ahead, ask Roz. Roz, how can you be? No, ask her, ask her, just- Straight up.

Yo Roz, Kaelyn Clark's stink? No, no, she doesn't stink, she's hurt. And she's been playing through this season, I think she's missed like nine or 10 games now. He's had now a quad injury on one leg, then a groin injury on another leg. And last night she injured the other groin, left the game in tears.

She had just returned and had been, you know, just hasn't looked like herself all season. Guys, for context, she's still putting up very impressive numbers. It's her efficiency that's down. She's shooting like 28% from the from three, 30 something from the field. Her turnovers, her mistakes are up. And she just looks frustrated all season. And I feel like here's the real tough question. So she comes back, she's from missing games. She hasn't looked good. She tweaks it last night.

Tonight, she's supposed to be in a back-to-back game. So they played that big game in Boston at TD Garden against the Sun. They sold it out. Anything Caitlin does is sold out. Back-to-back, she's supposed to come to Barclays. It's sold out, waiting for Caitlin to take on the defending champs of the Liberty. It's the last game before the All-Star break. The very next day they would go back to Indianapolis where they're hosting

All-Star weekend. She's supposed to be in the three point contest. It's her home city for her team. She's the star of the show. I think if she continues to participate, there's a lot of pressure for that. But if she does that, I don't think that that's gonna help the overall team mission in going as far as they can. Kaitlyn's gotta get healthy. Roz, I think she's toeing a little bit of a dangerous line right now because you see last night, you got the back and forth with the referee,

yelling to the referee, you know, grow up, and the brother is commenting on Twitter about the officiating. And she complains, now granted, the WNBA officiating seems to be kinda lousy, but she does a lot of complaining. Temper tantrums, body language, these seem fair criticisms. People will tire of this.

Yeah, Dan, you're right. Those are fair criticisms of Caitlin Clark in the sense that since college over a body of work, she is very, she emotes, you know? Like she complains. She wears all her emotions on her sleeve. You know, notoriously, you remember her banging the basketball on her head or her father in the stands telling her to stop it in college.

It's also carried over in the WNBA. I mean, I also think she she looks frustrated, like with herself, with the injury, with with the the the the refereeing, which has been a talking point in the WNBA all season long. And Coach White has also talked about the fact that like a Stephen Curry has been, like similar kind of shooter players and attention-getting players,

Kaitlyn's getting held, all game pulled. There's a lot of contact and she's wearing thin on it. She's, her body body starting to fall apart. So I think on one hand, it's a fair criticism. You need to hold her accountable. I do think Caitlin over the course of her career if she's really going to become I don't know. I think she does have to work on her body language and improve how she handles

her emotions and making sure that it never takes away from the momentum of the game and the team. But I also think that there's been a lot of great players where that fire fuels them and they walk that line, you know, so that's going to be her constant riddle to figure out. But it's not positive, the body language on the court. And you know, there are times where she's flailing and kind of flopping and on the floor a lot, you know, she's in the mix a lot. Haley's in the mix and players are coming out,

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Don Lebatard! I've never stepped foot on that campus! If you told me right now your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture! Stugats! I would die! I don't know where it is! This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. ["The Stugats Show Theme"] Well, let me ask the group how it would think Caitlin Clark would feel about the officiating

in that sport stinking. The amount of pressure that's on her, the amount of pressure that's on her from peers who want to bury her and it's the height of competition. I don't even know how much fun it is to be her right now if you're hurt trying to do some of this stuff but if the officiating is objectively empirically bad and you're Caitlin Clark you're supposed to just eat that? Like you're supposed to just keep eating it? Like keep politely going over and saying,

well, you missed that one and you missed it. When your body's breaking, when she's telling you your body's breaking down because they're awfully physical with you. I mean, I've got national media clucking about protect poor Caitlin, protect her. She can't be bullied like this. Her body's gonna break down if you beat her up

and the officiating's bad. So is it, why, who wouldn't be bullied like this. Her body's going to break down if you beat her up and the officiating's bad. So is it, why, who wouldn't be emotional in that spot? The emotion I saw from Caitlin at the end of the last game yesterday was actually a different, we saw, I saw frustration, I saw anger, but at the end she was crying. She left the court tearing up. Like at the very end of the game, mind you,

Caitlin shot poorly the whole game. She was one for seven from three. She only had 14 points, but guess what? In winning time, in the fourth quarter, I think she had like nine of her 14 points in the fourth quarter. She finished the game with seven rebounds, eight assists, something like that.

Like the girl is still making it happen, but at the very end, she tweaked the right groin, and the emotion we saw from her was like she was tearing up. And what I thought I saw there was just like it's a culmination of the whole season. Like I'm hurt again. Like just you know, like it's a lot and she's carrying a lot. And guys, I can't stress enough the conundrum that's coming up

with All-Star Weekend here. Between me and you, my thoughts are there's no way we're going to see Caitlin tonight playing the New York Liberty in a back-to-back. That's my thoughts, which by the way, we're on the broadcast. I'm sure everybody's going to have a heart attack. That is between you and me. No, it's just between you and me. We won't tell anybody. It's just between us. I mean, that hasn't been announced or anything, but my common sense is if I'm a GM looking at my franchise player and we're thinking about this actual season and it's

a back to back and then we got All-Star Weekend and she's supposed to be in a three-point contest. I almost wish that this three-point contest wasn't an Indy and that there wasn't so much pressure on her to have to be in it, you know, because remember out of the Olympic and All-Star break last season, she didn't play in the Olympics. She had all that time to rest and be out of the limelight. She came out and rushed everyone. She came out and was just like prolific in the second half of the season. This is not the same scenario. This all star break, the anyone on the Indiana fever, they're going to be in the center of a circus and attention and even participating in that three-point contest.

It's almost the only way she could win is if she wins. And even that might take away from her health. She may not perform well. She's shooting terribly from three all season. She's clearly not healthy. Her legs, the explosion, both groins are messed up, her quad and hamstring. I don't know if the goal is to make a solid playoff run. Caitlin might need to not only sit out tonight's game, but maybe sit out all star and just get healthy, like as long as that takes. And that's

just tough. You know? It's so weird, Dan, because like Ross says, she's shooting terrible from three all season long, 28%, of course that is true. She's actually incredible at home shooting from three, because on the year, this is not fake. She's two for 35 from three on the road this year, which would tell you she's amazing at home. But it feels like the worst of Trey Young,

when you're like, oh, that can't win when it's shooting from the perimeter, that poor one. Two for 35. Yeah, and to add more color to this, even for maybe the casual fan listening at home too, in general, this Indiana Fever season, it's been bumpy. It's been tumultuous. Coming into the year, they crushed free agency.

They had all these big names coming in and people were saying, they're a contender. They can win the championship. Let me tell you how it's gone at the first half of the season. It's literally the girls have been fighting, like they were fighting on the court. So like that's one thing. They faced a lot of injuries, not just to Caitlin Clark, but to a number of their guards and wings. And then of course, your superstar has been hurt in Caitlin Clark.

She's barely been able to play healthy throughout the season. Their coach, Coach White, she's had personal things happen at home. She's missed time away from the team. And then of course, the big three agent that they got, and imagine this guy, the huge star that they brought in, and they were like, up, super team, it's done.

DeWanna Bonner, she comes, decides not to play five games. It's not a good fit for her. Mind you, I'm a huge DeWanna Bonner fan, but I understand if I'm an Indiana Fever fan, I'd be furious. She decides it's not a fit and forces her way out of there. And so she goes to another team, after really not playing well

or not even playing at all for the Indiana Fever. Now she joins, they had a waiver, the Phoenix Mercury pick her up and now she's killing it over there. So the Fever fans are like, what? You played possum here and now you're over there killing and they're scrambling? So like their whole season has been scrambles

and figuring out rotations and injuries and fights and missing coaches and players and so and all of that, they still won the commissioners cup and they're still here fighting in a playoff contention. So you know they're still fighting for something, they're still cooking and at least they know what they got right now coming out of the All-Star break. Would you prefer to live in a manor or a mansion? I don't know what that question means. A perfect response.

It is the perfect response because, so you don't know the difference between a manor and a mansion because- One is clearly more opulent. I don't know what a manor is. I don't know what a manor is. So if you are, this is good to play this game with you then. Just based on not knowing, which do you think is preferable a manner or a

mansion i think i mentioned a better uh... congratulations as well as as well thanks a mansion and i live in one swell but a manner has land attached to it involves the royals on some occasions so it's an expansive property that's bigger than a mansion you could put a mansion on a manor. Oh, I feel so This is a classic of squares Arambas but Arambas isn't a square Minor penalty, two minutes asshole.

Rhombus your ass out of here. What the hell is a rhombus? I'm sorry. Pell-a-lella ground. Rhomb dog. So here is some Shaq sound that I want to get to because over the last eight games, Angel Reese has been exceptionally good. She's awesome.

And Angel Reese has a very strong supporter and business partner in Shaquille O'Neal. And Bob Griffin, as Juju has called, Robert Griffin III has said some things and done some things that a lot of people are mad about. But Shaq is very protective here of his business partner, Angel Reese. So let's hear that Shaq sound, please. Oh, speaking of man, RG3, tweet another monkey post

about my girl Angel Reese and punch in your face, okay? That's enough. Like I don't usually do stuff like this, but just stop it, bro. You got your job, you got your podcast, leave my Angel Reese alone. I'm the one calling her and telling her not to respond. Stop it.

That's the last time. Glasses came off for that, for the audio audience. Pretty succinct message. I mean, that's the last time. Glasses came off for that, for the audio audience. Pretty succinct message. I mean, it's menacing too. As men, as men, like if you were to get that message directed at you from Shaq, would that intimidate you? Would you feel scared about that? Yes, yes, I don't like seeing that if I'm RG3.

No, no, who would like seeing that? Who wants that in their doorway? I don't know, I mean, first of all, I was just, it's cool. I appreciated seeing Shaq, who is her business partner and who has, you know, stepped out and said, like, I'm a big unk to her step up for her just to know that there's also some male support, like don't play with her name. I don't know. I just feel like there's so many people that center themselves, but especially RG3 in these WNBA conversations, they take like one thought button moment and then completely make it about themselves.

RG3, man, I feel like he's just clout chasing, honestly, around Angel Reese's name. Like if he knows it generates a certain level of attention and conversation and there's a lot of people that use angels name to like make commentary and it's not even like really about her at all. I mean, yeah, but she's an avatar assemble for whatever it is that you want to do when you turn your athletes into politics, racial propaganda, whatever it is that you want to turn your athlete into a symbol, an avatar for, like this, for Angel Reefs

and Caitlin Clark, it is a wildly, wildly good thing to have around your league's interest and a wildly bad thing to have creeping into your life in any meaningful mental health way, the way that these people are used. But as someone who is a journalist, you're a winning journalist, you're a champion journalist, Zaz will teach you some things here

about what you have to report. She's doing good. She's won more than Zaz. Well, she's doing well, but she reported, I thought, the information about the Liberty earlier. She didn't do it with as much conviction as you would have done it, as much conviction as you would have done it, as much confidence as you would have done it, just reporting it flatly

and saying, taking the consequences of that. She was a little too responsible. Yep, she'll get there. I mean, I don't know that she even needs my advice. She seems to be doing a terrific job, but you know, she'll get, you gotta stay with your chest out, you know? Yeah, I could be bolder,

and I think that's what I'll always remember from this session with you guys. It's good for you to have that confidence given to you by Zazz. But when you talk about what's happening with RG3, are there many journalists or sports media figures that are upsetting you in this particular way? That get you a little more emotional

because it seems like you're just grabbing for audience here and you're doing so without a lot of respect for what history is. Yeah, it's annoying. In fact, the fact that our segue to even speaking about Angel Reese has to start with Shaq threatening RG3 is a great example of like all of the otherness outside of actual ball and hoops that surrounds the new attention to WNBA basketball. However, I don't think it's all like horrible. We're getting eyeballs, it's generating conversation, and transcending.

So I think in some ways that's good, but I'd like to bring it back to the fact that like, yo, Angel Reese right now is playing like a top 10 player in the WNBA. And when I was last on the show, our guy Ryan, I know, I know. Yeah, our guy Ryan. Ryan, he's not here by the way. He's ducking there, I guess. I know, he know. Our guy Ryan. Ryan, he's not here by the way.

He's ducking in, yes. I know, he probably heard I was gonna be here today, but no, not play. Yes, ducking in. But he literally was like, yo, I've never, he admitted, I've never watched Angel Reese, but I don't like her.

I don't like her game. And, or he said, or he wanted the right to that. Let me be fair to him. To be irrationally, to irrationally hate her was his point. Yes, to be fair. Thank you for being fair to him. He wanted the right to irrationally hate Angel Reese

the same way he does Terry Rozier. And it's so funny, after we left the show, it was like 20 minutes later, I was like, oh, but it was so ironic because that same day, Angel was literally named player of the week. Like, hello! And I texted Dan and I was like, suck it Ryan! That's right.

I was like. He forwarded it. I forwarded that message, yes. He was. Suck it Ryan. He was told to suck it. Yes he was. Because.

I don't know if it's Mike, but yeah. No it's Ryan, it's Ryan, you were right. No, it's keep insulting him that way keep calling For Mike no, no, but like the thing is is that guys if I leave here without at least saying this about Angel Reese Here's what you need to know about how what like the numbers are in mind and her games doing the talking So for all the people who have been clout chasers, RG3 haters, people like Ryan who have never watched, but we're just kind of like happy, happy to hear that she started poorly

and it confirms assumptions that they had made about her. Guess what? The games talking, the numbers talking. This girl just hit 40, she's now at 41, but she had 40 double doubles and she's only been playing a year and a half like her. This is a baby pro career in 54 games. That's 74, 75% of her total games of her career. She's getting a double double. She has 41 double doubles already. Like this is this is not only that she's getting it, it's the speed in which she's getting it,

it's the consistency, the resilience, the toughness. It's not only the double doubles y'all, it's more than just rebounds and layups. They made an adjustment to bring her out further away from the rim. And now she's starting to be able to get downhill. And when she's got the ball on the move, she's been able to either make a play for herself

or get some assist to her teammates. So her assists are up, she's play the ball on the move, she's been able to either make a play for herself or get some assist to her teammates. So her assists are up, she's playmaking right now. She seems like she's slowed down. She's taking contact and finishing through the bump. It seems like the game is growing right now. She's certainly improved and she fought back after initially starting slow. And she admitted it, I started poorly, but guess what?

This kid has heart, she has worked hard, and now she's playing out of her mind. And we've got to be able to cover the positive part of her game in the same way y'all covered when she was sucking, okay? You gotta be able to do that. I didn't like that y'all, I didn't like the way that felt, I didn't like it had an undercurrent to it.

It had some tension. I'm looking in the mirror. No, well, it was a y'all and she was looking at me and I didn't like the way that it sounded. Good Follow is headed out to the WNBA All-Star Game. She tells it like it is. Nice seeing you, Roz. Good seeing you.

Thank you for making the time. Bye guys, thanks for having me. No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum Points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Don Lebertard. Go ahead Billy, ask him your question. Is gymnastics possibly corrupt?

Oh wow. Stugats! I got some phlegm in my mouth, yeah. It's okay. Is gymnastics possibly corrupt? This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats! I did not know. I've got to admit this, I thought the groin was a singular thing. I did not know there were groins. I did not know that we had two groins.

I'm ashamed to admit that after a lifetime. I thought a groin injury, I don't know why I thought this. I thought a groin injury, I thought it was just, I've never heard a groin injury. I thought it was just I've never heard it groins injury I've never heard somebody hurt two groins I just thought the groin was a singular thing and hadn't given it any more thought than that I'm embarrassed to be admitting it There's two of them like that's what attaches your hips to or is it just one groin that goes like the whole way That's right both sides. So maybe it is technically one groin

I I thought a groin was a So maybe it is technically one groin. I thought a groin was a singular thing. I thought a groin injury. Just ask AI, how many groins do I have? Put it, put it, am I alone here? I'm the ignorant one. I'm the, you guys are, I feel embarrassed to admit it, but I am admitting it, even though it has a degree

of shame on it for me, so. I don't see plural for groins. I do think that Tony's right here, right? It's your one groin, but you got both. Oh, that was you? Oh, good for Chris. I was saying you got a side, you got two different. Tony said there's two.

I was like, two different. What if it's just a whole attack? Way to go, Chris. You got two different sides to it, because you have two legs. All right, but so it is a single. You have one leg, you have one groin. All right, but it is, so it is one groin that has two sides to it and you can hurt either side of a groin

But you don't have two groins you have a groin It's where your lower abdomen meets your upper thigh and there are two different spots where that happens But that general area described as your groin Jose can say go looked pretty athletic. It's made up of multiple muscles though. Ah. I feel like we're learning a lot

and not learning all at the same time. That is a specialty of this show, I would say. In general, it can be hard to see. We learned early in the show that the home run record for baseball used to be 138. That feels like a... They must have thought that was never gonna get broken. Once he got into like the sixes, they're like, nah.

Well, they used to play in like Yosemite where the walls were 8,000 feet away. So how are you gonna hit home runs more than 138? There are any number of things that happen after I've left this show where I slap my head and I'm like, why didn't I mention that? Yesterday, do you realize that's the first ever conversation that anyone's ever had about a wall at Fenway

that wasn't the Green Monster? Like we were, we decided to talk about- The right field wall. We started, how inferior- Pesky's Pole? How inferior does that wall feel, having to live in this literal shadow of that other wall all these years,

being a little David Sson three-foot wall Roger Connor was that all-time home run leader. He played for 18 seasons from 1880 to 1897 averaging 11 home runs a season career high 17 home runs So you bring this up about Roger Connor and when he saw Babe Ruth He immediately put down his bat and said that will not be mine anymore and uh... i'd chris cody came into the studio during the break and said something that i noticed yesterday and you guys made fun of me for noticing it during the show because i put a breaking news

sounder on it i saw how peter schrager ended get up okay and the way he ended it was with the camera moving away from him and he was just leaning on the side of his chair really comfortable in greenish chair really comfortable like so comfortable just look that the cameras panning out

and he's just leaning on the chair like this is the throne uh... i belong here this feels good this is mine i'm just picturing like but leading up to greenies vacation greenie just being like who who's hosting for me oh no I thought Graziano killed it I think we need more Graziano I mean it's just I cuz Schrager is just he's he's just kind of flinging his arms out like this is hey greenie I got this while you're gone and he's just he's crushing it look at him.

I don't think Dan Patrick will be mad at me for repeating this story. I think Dan Patrick would like me to repeat this story. Dan Patrick went to Tahoe for the first time in many years. And Stugatz comes up to him at Tahoe and says, and Dan Patrick says he was not joking. He was not trying to be playful, he was registering a complaint,

Stugat looks at Dan Patrick and says, hey, you're in my spot. No. Big dog's gotta eat. I like it. He's been to Tahoe how many times? Yeah. Dan Patrick's been how many times?

Yeah. But if you saw Patrick set, and we've only ever had just a tent. Like, we've never had what Dan Patrick's been how many times? But if you saw Patrick's set, and we've only ever had just a tent. Like, we've never had what Dan Patrick had out there. NBC and all that, but that's not the point. The point is. We're also on Peacock. Exactly right, exactly right.

But if you put in the sweat equity, you're the guy there, year in, year out, you deserve it. Dan Patrick has played Tahoe. So has Stu. He's played in the tournament. Has Stu gots also played in the tournament? Not the actual tournament He's played in the tournament. Has Stugatz also played in the tournament? Not the actual tournament, the tournament before the tournament. The amateur one.

He played the course. So you guys think that Schrager should carry himself the way Stugatz does, that Schrager around Mike Greenberg should behave the way that Stugatz behaves around Dan Patrick? I think Greeny is rooting for Get Up to have some mistakes when Schrager is hosting. I think he wants it to be a sloppy show. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show.

Does Greenberg root for a sloppy show when Schrager is hosting? He's like halfway across the world. It's like the time zone is way off. If he sees it. He's at like a little bar somewhere, and he's like Greece damn. He's killing it in Greece. He just walks by a pool This mother I like idea that he's watching on vacancy that shit sloppy nice He's making sure that they Can you turn that up really quick? sure that they Turn that up really quick

sure he's a long toss of that clip huh I got it I got it worse than that I got him telling people Who are his producers the other 50 weeks hey do stuff to slip him up throw stuff in the prompter Oh, you didn't give me this like he's getting mad at his producers for going above and beyond for Schrager You haven't done you haven't written me lines like that in years. What you don't know is so funny about what you're saying. I would recommend to anybody watching this if you're not familiar to watch the Larry Sanders show and how it is that he made fun of television

and the insecurity in television. But if I tell anyone in this audience, like the vanity business of television and the insecurity in television. But if I tell anyone in this audience, like the vanity business of television, just how much insecurity it has, and then I put next to that just how much insecurity sports media has, you're gonna be getting a call from Graziano for what you did to Graziano a second ago.

Just going for any panelist. He was there today. Don't worry. I love Graz. You picked going for any panelist. He was there today. Don't worry. I love Graz. You picked him for a reason. I love Graz. I just picked the guy for Sky's Song. He's not gonna hear it, he's on the Peloton.

If I combine those two things, I would say to you that no matter how confident you may think Greenberg is, you're always a Schrager sitting in your chair a day away and getting a little too comfortable to making a call to those people who screwed up the five o'clock hour and had the ratings dump on around the horn.

Hey, get Schrager out of my chair. Get Schrager. I don't like how Schrager's get, how friendly he's getting with Dominique over there. Get Graziano. Did you get that with the bang? I don't like this guy.ers get, how friendly he's getting with Dominique over there. Get Graziano. Did you get that with the bang? I don't like this guy. Who's this guy on PTI?

Bang! No, they never had to worry about that with me. I wasn't gonna be replacing anybody. They hated me from the start. Kornhuis was like more of him. More of him, that's right. He left a big sweat puddle in my chair like Pete Encavillian left field at the AstroTurf

at veteran stadium a million years ago. What a pull. That was amazing. Well because I he left testosterone stains in the carpet because he was on steroids allegedly. That's what I left in the chair at pardon the interruption it was just an assortment of sweat stains. From tests? Why why would they fear yeah those two guys those two guys are gonna survive everything at ESPN. Little callback here. I just found out what Roger Connor, the guy who hit all those home runs, looks like,

and he looks exactly like you'd think. He actually looks like a poor man's babe. A guy who was born eight years before the abolition of slavery in the United States. Wow. Would you guys look at the piece of lumber in his hands? That thing, it's like the handle's thicker. Torpedo thicker torpedo bat torpedo bat. Yeah, it's wearing a tie How is the mustache the third thing we're noticing in a photograph your father looked like this earlier in the week he did I

Don't think my mom liked it by the way. Oh no, cause he was loving it. I think we built him up. He walked out of here like, I have a new look. He loved it. But we were genuine. We weren't even making fun of him. Your father, as we often do, looked better.

All of us. This is true of all of us. We look better in the costume. The number of times you guys, I come in here dressed as George Michael and you guys say that should be your look, Dan. That's us doing it. I showed my wife, I was like, look, he looked good. And she's like, he doesn't look that good.

I was like, maybe we were all just like lost in the sauce. Like maybe he doesn't look good. Well, but he left here wondering, this does not happen to your father very often. Usually he thinks everything we're saying is one hundred percent real yesterday he doubted so much that he looked good that he was questioning the sincerity of all of us saying that you look better this way and all it was as you look cleaner and you're showing less of your face you're covering your face

with colors that are younger than the ones they're normally on your face so paint your face the less of your face we see the better it all is general rule for most of us but he brought it home to your mom and he looks asinine why would you want to marry a baseball player from 1919