The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Mina Channels Stugotz

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

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Stugatz asked a question before we kicked Amin out of here and he wasn't allowed to be a part of the fun Mero interview because of just what an undetailed dipshit he was in terms of judgment. I held this place down for you when you were gone, by the way Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you held this place down step Dan Do you mean that literally like it was it was gonna? It was gonna soar into the sky to great riches and instead you held it down Then I was the Dan that stepped up step Dan was a good bit. What was my real Dan?

Went out to get a pack of cigarettes never came home Like my own I did come home and now you're sitting still sitting on the gas awkward with terrible judgment Where were you man? I didn't learn how to ride a bike I didn't play catch with you at the end of that segment about Levar ball where he showed that truly terrible judgment that segment about Levar Ball where he showed that truly terrible judgment. We'll get to that in a second because I believe he deserves more of a burial than the one that he got. Stu got asked me the question of, do you think Levar Ball would have been happier if he had to make a choice?

If his shoes were great or his kids were, no, that's, that's, he could only have one. No, he'd definitely take his kids, for sure. You sure? Well, you ruined it when you do it that way. No, no, no, but like, I'm not saying that in like, oh, he's a father, he wants his kids, no, no. His whole thing is like, I made these superstar athletes. His thing was never.

These things came from me. His thing was never I made superstar shoes. Right. Right, like the shoes thing is, that was flying too close to the sun because it's like the next iteration of like, I made these superstar athletes, what's next? We're gonna have our own shoe company,

we're gonna have our own apparel thing. Those are all ancillary. His main thing was like, yo, my balls produced three balls. The balls. Three elite basketballs. Bigger balls. Two, basketballs. Two really. Bigger balls. He was trying to take big baller brand to great riches,

but the whole train derailed and you deserve further burial for not knowing the important details. You had details. All the important ones totally eluded you. You didn't ask for important details. You asked for details. I gave you details. Again, they worked for me. You didn't ask for important details. You asked for details. I gave you details.

Again, they worked for me, so. Too close to the system. I still hold that it was a more fun place when he existed. We can hold two thoughts in our heads, ladies and gentlemen. For some people. He could have said something that was deplorable, but also overall. Said many things.

Many deplorable things? Weren't there a couple? You're the detail king, you let us know. Wait, what voice was that? It's your topic. Whose voice was that? It's my voice. It's my incredulous voice.

There was Stay In Your Lane. Yeah, you told Christine Leahy to stay in her lane when having a conversation on Calling Cowherd's Show. That was one, that was kind of mild in comparison to the rest. Let's switch gears. Which is not great. Yeah, like I think, again, there are a lot of examples.

Some of them are way more salacious than others. But overall, when you take the totality of the LaVar Ball experience, because it wasn't like every time he got on a mic he said something sexist or whatever. He was dangerous. He was the Dion Waiters of saying something sexist and that he was a volume shooter, so there were so many things out there. Yes.

But there were a lot of sexist things. Don't recite the name of Dion for this. Sorry, Dion's kind'm straight there for sure not Sure, that wasn't the point the point was volume shooter. I love Dion way They volume the second best DW in the history of the heat. I like that This is the content that everyone's taking a picture to the Dion wait How dare you thank you Jessica you and me should go on a thank-you tour Thank you, Jessica. You and me should go on a thank you tour. Daryl Wright would like a word by the way.

Top five. Oh, CT5? You see what they got fired up on? Let's talk Deion Waiters. Let's talk heat players of the initials DW. I'll get a top five together. Daryl Wright is better than Deion Waiters. But really what happened here was

Amin was just talking about a topic in general terms and you do this Dan, you asked a bunch of serious follow ups. I mean, and that's why he's frustrated with you, thank you. Thank you, Stugots. Not serious follow-ups, just follow-ups. Give me the thank you song for Stugots, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. To be fair, I don't think Dan was the one

who brought up the fact that he went away. That was part of the thing that Amin initially brought up, and Dan was like, why did he go away again it was a lot of that but if you that that was a bottle of a conversation though natural follow-up but i wasn't looking for a half the time talking in general terms though it's unnecessary are we could just ignore everything then i have to be genuinely honest here the only reason i asked him

is because i did not know it seems an innocent enough mistake i did not know at the time the details of why he was gone i do know that there must have been details that mattered given that a huge content spouting source for all of sports entertainment had latched on the levar ball and made a whole bunch of money off of every time he appeared somewhere it was kind of dangerous because it's on the hinge dad flag on the plate

but you didn't know the details you can say i didn't remember the details but then if you say i'd never knew what i would have no i don't know i'm not claiming ignorance i knew that there was some sexist things that he had said and done ike but this is why I asked you, what are the details? Bad timing. You knew the details. No, no, I, apparently you did.

Well, I thought you didn't know the details. Now who knows what details? Yeah, but he's not supposed to know the details. He's talking in general terms. But Dan is supposed to know the details. Somebody around here, somebody around here. I knew the details. Somebody around here. Somebody around here. I knew the details. The deets.

Let's switch gears. They're bad details. I do have a top five DWs in heat history if we want it. Thursday Thunder. Oh wow. Wow. A violent switch of the gears. Violent switch. Crank that thing.

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or DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Tony, what do we got? All right, we are in the women's hoops game. We've got Iowa money line as our first part of our parlay here Trying to cue thunder but I cute thank you Good work as always second part of our parlay

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segment that is well produced. Draft Kings. All you got to do is put the thunder at the right time. That's it. Like, that's all you got to do is just play sometimes. A place. Yeah, I'm looking at a lot of things on the screen Dan There's a ton of things on the last thing on my screen is over 15 and a half points for Camila Cardoso for your lady gamecocks I Wanted to circle back on a couple of things, Stugats, that happened while I was away

in the explosion of women's basketball into the biggest sports-rattling ratings thing that there is during the streaming time. Like, just knocking out of the way all sorts of World Series and Stanley Cup final, and it's like, oh, wait a minute, so when we give some equal access to some equal things, look at what's just been birthed, a money spout of ratings.

Holy shit to see the numbers that Iowa LSU brought and then to enjoy the subsequent conversations, do gods, of many people who have loved this for a long time saying, welcome all, it's kind of uncomfortable here because you guys have dumb conversations on undisputed, where Paul Pierce is a newcomer, has to say something, and we're not quite equipped to talk about women's sports the way they deserve because we just got here. Like a lot of us just got here and don't know what we need to know about this sport but they've been telling us oh this is fun over here and showing us with Final Four tickets that are selling much better and more expensively for the women and with more star power because

and I know Jamel got a lot of people mad here last week when she said this but I've already seen this happen in my lifetime and it was amazing to watch Larry Bird and Magic Johnson fought at the top of college sports for the money and then fought at the top of making the for the money and then fought at the top of uh... making the nba matter because it was a white guy and was a black guy and and magic johnson made his life what he did after that which is acceptable to everybody because he birthed an entire sport right there with all that's the black guy everybody can like it's magic johnson and look at what he does when it's against larry and that's competitive sportsmanship

those games run taint delay when those guys started to make that league in what it is and the race was an enormous part of it and it was interesting but in these times these times it's gonna have some poison around it especially when it comes to black women because I see what happens to jamelle when she comes around here that's one of the strongest people i've ever met my life when she dares to say the most obvious thing which is caitlin carter clark it helps her to be a white star because of course it cuts

because what do you know what the nba would be right now if it would just be that luca that luca any yolkage were white amer, just white Americans. Oh my God. The NBA right now. Probably be printing money. Oh my God. Jokic would still be bored. Oh yes.

If it was their name was Nick Jokic. And Luke, Don Tich. Oh my God. Nick and Luke. Oh my God, can you imagine? Nick and Luke. It's a boy band. But so of course, some men get to the conversation

and we're newcomers and we don't. And so it becomes about talking about the most macro things because we can't talk about the details because we haven't been watching and studying for the last six years. Well, Amin and I were laughing yesterday kind of off air where I said, we don't know how to cover the sport. We don't know how to cover women's sports in general,

where everyone is saying and repeating, Caitlin Clark shoots like Steph Curry. OK. Okay that's all they've got. So just from that just from Hoosiers, middle America I don't know the difference between Iowa and Indiana just from whatever Hoosiers was supposed to represent in basketball what do you mean that we've got a giant star who can make nine threes in a game from out there with Steph Curry range and nobody can do anything about it, not even Kim Mulkey. Well, no, hold on, you missed a couple episodes.

I know there was detailed analysis on how poorly defended. Kim Mulkey is terrible at coaching, that's what I learned. Okay. You wanna talk about how to parachute in? You know how to parachute into women's sports? I watched that game and I was like, this is the worst coach I've ever seen. You have to do something differently against Kaitlyn Clark. You can't allow her to keep doing that.

You can't go under on screens. That is absurd. That's like, I've never watched her play before. That's the kind of coaching job she did. Okay, so not surprising. That's how you do it with me. There you go. Big's got a hedge too.

Big's got a hedge. She played against her last year and won, no? Yeah, like, yeah. You know what happens? What? When people play games and then they lose? What? Usually, they go back and make adjustments.

Right. And so as a coach. You have to adjust to the adjustment coach you have to adjust to the adjustment she made zero adjustments she just hoped hoped they would go right thank you and then had a girl who was on an IV earlier that day hey you know what you guard the best player in all the land with no help on an island, on an island by herself. Is there a place that we can discuss intelligently around everything that happened with Angel Reese and that is happening with this kind of stardom? Yes, off the looking glass.

Oh, that's right. No, we tried here, Dan, it didn't go well. Dude, let me tell you something. I chose going viral and let me tell you I'll go viral a million times over for my jump Shot before I go viral like he does. He's getting roasted. See the thing is Angel Reese wants to be the villain, but the villain has to live with the reality of villainy. Let me explain. That's it. That's all I got. That's all you got. I was hoping you would do an essay. I was hoping you would do 90 straight seconds. I thought you were quoting yourself.

You had the floor. You had the floor. You asked for the ball. Your take was similar to his. What take? On Angel. Oh no, no she's an angel, that's my take. And I'm glad she's coming to WNBA because she's gonna make more money, ain't that right Jess? Ah. We don't know how to cover this.

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I don't like smutty either. Stugots. Women stay home in the kitchen where they belong. This is the Don Lebatard. I don't like Smutty either. Stugatz. Women stay home in the kitchen where they belong. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugatz. Mina, I'm genuinely torn on where to start with you because I know Stugatz wants to talk to you about what the Texans are doing. I know everybody wants to hear from you on Stefan Diggs. I know that Stugatz wants to give you a bit of advice on how to correctly do the take game in April

because he has, you might think to yourself that you have a better take than any of his takes, but he has a top five list of quarterbacks who have the most pressure on them in April. In April and you can't do anything that good and I'm just wondering if you'd like for us to unveil that or just talk to you about how it is that I'm a left wing Marxist because I have racist Jamel Hill

on my show every week. Let's hear the takes, or the quarterbacks. Wow, good choice. As much as I wanna hear about how you're a, what was it, a racist? A left-wing Marxist. No, Jermell. What's the point of those right-wing Marxists?

Your microphone's not on. Well, that's not my fault. Not his fault, yeah. I can't turn it on then. As opposed to those right-wing Marxists is what your joke is. Not on the microphone. It's a spectrum.

Yeah, let's hear what you got. I'm gonna be the stand- in for the audience and choose the obvious most popular. Thank you. Is there an OLI or is it just top five? Just a straight five, Dan. Now, this is me and Tony. We were up early in the morning.

I mean, 4 a.m. Yeah, 4 a.m. And taking people's ass. You know, I wanted a certain quarterback on this list. Tony didn't. Tony ended up winning that fight. And so we have a straight top five right here. Now I want to guess who that quarterback is. Let me hear your five and then I'm going to

guess who you left off. All right. Okay. Well, I think I'd like to hear Mina's five or does it ruin your five if Mina does anything or I, because I don't believe she can actually beat you at this game. I believe that this is a game that you have mastered and that Mina will lose, but I don't know how to best play it. So that what are you making faces about Mina? You think you can win this game? You think you've gotten strong enough to win this game? I mean, I do get asked, like we're joking

about the very premise of this as though I don't get asked this exact question on first take once a week, who's under the most pressure. In April? All right, well, let's's see whose list is better then. So do you think off the top of your head you can do a top five list and we will do rival top five list,

most quarterbacks with the most pressure? You think you can? Rather than a top five, I'm gonna try to guess who's on Steve's list. Okay, I like that. Okay, but you're not gonna give it away. So you're just gonna write it down while it is that he's talking?

No, no, no, no. I'm gonna do one, I'm gonna go one for one, you tell me if he's on your list, okay? Okay, all right. Okay, so this is all practiced, my technique, my effort, my understanding of Stu Gott's brain forged in the first take, fires, beginning, it's quarterbacks, right?

Yes. This is the part I need to explain to the audience Okay, Mina takes on great difficult scaffolding challenges whether they are crossword puzzles or this the hardest of all the games What's to God's is gonna do based on all the permutations involved here of in April? Who does the pressure have to be on and Mina who, who's a preparation freak, is gonna do this on the fly. You think you're good enough at the StuGots language to be able to actually pull this off. You're welcoming this challenge. I mean, I just know who the guys are.

It's the same, okay, Dak, Dak, Dak, Dak, Dak, Dak. Yeah, well, we'll see. Okay. Stu, is Dak on your list? I know. She's asking you, StuGots. He's saying no. I'm saying no, Dak is Dak on your list? I know. She's asking you, Stu Gotts. He's saying no. I'm saying no, Dak is not on my list.

That's too obvious to put Dak on the list. He'll be on August. Mina, you gotta go to Stu Gotts 201. You went to Stu Gotts 101. We're in April. She thinks she's good at this game, and I'm like, Mina, I don't care how good you are at these puzzles.

This puzzle, this is the greatest in sports media. You can't do this better than him. You know this is a freshman class is Tony Contract year he did and has been dinged for hitting his Ceiling in the playoffs how is Dak not on your I'm actually interested in why you didn't put Dak on your list because it's April That's why I'm curious. What's the difference between pressure in April and August? Oh, you don't get it. He doesn't get it. Different kind of pressure.

Can you explain it to me? I'm asking. Well, that's your answer. That's how you lose arguments in America today. Can you explain it to me? I'd like to learn, I'd like to understand, and that's the answer. It's April. You know what I feel like?

It's April. Have you guys watched the show Mindhunter on Netflix? It was unfortunately canceled. So good, right? And for the listeners who haven't watched it, it's about, I think it was the FBI, not the CIA, whatever, these detectives basically trying to get into the minds of serial killers by spending time with serial killers.

I feel like now, your omission of Dak Prescott, I feel like, like mind hunter for takes or something. Like I'm trying to get into Stu, now instead of thinking, there's like a second layer to this game, because instead of thinking, who is the quarterback who is actually under pressure, I have to think, not only who does Stu Gotts think is the quarterback under pressure,

but who does Stu Gotts think is the quarterback under pressure at this arbitrary moment in time? That's right April. Yeah Mina has just entered the second level Westworld right like what first like I'm just a cowboy should be like no no there's another game within the game exactly right that Anthony Hopkins built into this and that's what you're searching for now. Yeah and and it's really hard, so I think I'll just go to the list because will you admit defeat now or do you wanna keep trying to guess? No, I'll throw another one out there.

Kirk Cousins. Nope. Oh wow, Oprah too? It's April. That's more, yeah, it's more July, August for Kirk. It's August, yeah, September maybe. This is gonna be really stupid basically. What?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Wemena. Wemena. They got a performance. This is what it always is with Condom. Maybe this is gonna be really stupid Don't like losing you guys don't know I don't like failing a test I didn't mean it I was lashing out That was my back. I was it was Geez Jeremy Jeremy get out. You know what Mike sure told me to kick you out every time you talk Jeremy get out. You know what Mike sure told me to kick you out every time you talk Every single time Mike told me just don't like don't want to hear heat takes don't let you say anything He said every single time for a week Mina do you want to take another guess or you just want take one more Mina? Okay, Russell Wilson Why is she so bad at this? Why is she so bad at this? He should be on your list in April because he is actually in a quarterback competition

at this, more than any other quarterback, he should be on your list. It's August 30 million guaranteed. You don't know anything. You're a fool. You don't know how to take tests. Number five. Bryce Young. Oh. Why would it be Bryce Young? Now or never.

Now or never, Mina. The windows are short in the NFL. CJ Strahd was selected ahead of him. Now or never. This year or it will never happen for Bryce. That would make sense in August. It's April. Okay, fine.

Number four. Jordan Love. Welcome to the world of expectations. Jeremy looks like a ghost. Mina, why are you shocked? Why are you open mouthed shocked? Because Jordan Love is in a fantastic situation. I am for now. Oh my God.

Keep going. A lot of pressure. No one expected anything out of the Packers and Jordan Love last year now Everyone is expecting them in a bad NFC to get to a Super Bowl pressure We almost got to the Super Bowl last year well he did it expectations that number three CJ Stroud Welcome to the world of expectations No one expected anything last year. Got to the playoffs.

He's great. Now they got him weapons. They got him mixing. They got him digs. He already has Tank Del. He's got Nico Collins. That team is really good. And Dalton Schultz.

Expectations. Pressure. So he won't have that in August? Got it now. Yeah, he's got it now. It just happened. He might still have it in August. He's massively throwing in Ann Dalton Schultz. He's really just. Good tight happened. It might still happen in August. The best thing to be throwing in, and Dalton Schultz is really just.

Good tight end. It's an all in move, Dano. Everyone loves saying this. Aren't they almost always all in when they're got the quarterback who's great and cheap? Like you got to get. Now you get it. Now you get why April was such a massive month

for CJ Stroud. No, Mina, were you saying no? Oh, well, no, I was saying not every team has done it. I mean, I guess we can talk about this when we talk about the trade later. I would say like the Colts have a quarterback on a rookie contract and don't appear to be acting in a similar fashion. But CJ Stratus is such a terrible answer. It's year two. Even if he regresses a little bit he still has two years left plus the fifth year option on his rookie contract. Like the premise that he is under more pressure than the

likes of Dak Prescott, who has to, who's in his final year and is due for a big contract is whatever anyways. It's my list. No, Mina, this is- Like fighting a ghost. No, it's not like fighting a ghost. Mina, this is what I'd like to do though.

If I can bring out this part of your personality that others, I don't believe, have ever unearthed on television. Enraged Mina by Stugts' general arbitrary stupidity. But normally I make her happy. I know, but she's been doing too much first take and she's in the machine now. She's given her takes and they have to have some honor.

Who has the most pressure has to have more honor than you can just switch it from April to August based on how Stu Gotts feels like marking the calendar. Here's the thing. Part of the reason I love Stu is I'm usually not, like a relaxed person when it comes to opinions. But you gamified, or maybe I guess I gamified it. And the second something becomes a game or a competition,

there's a part of my lizard brain that just starts beeping and activating. And the reason why I'm getting a little bit irritated by the total lack of logic behind this list, no offense. He disrespects the top five list by giving it this little reason. It's my list. It's more about me than you, Stu.

It's a reflection on me and my lack of self-esteem. Mina, is that nature or nurture? It's nature. It's pure nature. Will you pass it along to your seed, to your progeny? First of all, never call him my seed again. What was that? Like what is that?

Because I couldn't remember what that was. Instantly awkward when you did that. Wow, so you wait a minute. You did the move, wait a minute. You did the move to a baby that I do to people whose names I can't recognize and they expect me to know them. I call them Chief.

Or Handsome. Or Handsome. Or you should use boss. Boss, yes. Do you expect to pass it on to your chief? But Seed? Seed? Little fella.

You call him Little fella. Little fella. You call him little fella. Little fella? He's a big fella. No, I'm actually very uncompetitive with like, milestones and as he doing, you know, when people ask, is he crawling? Is he, you know, sitting upright for more than 15 seconds? I really, I'm not super worried about that stuff, yeah.

Oh man, I went crazy. This is my vergoness. All of my control freak and competitive nature, like the aspects of my personality are all only about myself. So Stu, please keep going with your excellent list. My commentary on it is not a reflection on the quality of the list or the integrity of your choices,

but rather my own frustration with my inability to predict them. Thank you. Number two. Caleb Williams. Welcome to the Windy City. They have built a team for you. You don't want to be there. You want nothing to do with that organization. They have a

very, very short leash. Caleb Williams, number two on my list of top five quarterbacks who have the most amount of pressure in April. Also, by the way, because the Bears don't ever have good quarterbacks, welcome to the world of expectations. Thank you, you get the game. He had plenty of them last year, but okay. Not a bad choice, I actually agree with that. How about Aaron?

Part because not just the number one overall pick, but I think a lot of people, myself included, agree that he's being set up to succeed, which adds to the pressure, right? So, good choice. Number one. Aaron Rodgers. Show me something. Your hall pass is up. You had it for a year. It's up. Now show me something. Don't show me the MVP as you want in Green Bay. Show me something with the New York Jets.

That's what I want to see. Pressure is on and Mina, I have a problem. I think the Jets are going to be good. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. Don't do this to yourself, too. I know. I care about you. I know. Bills are down. Dolphins haven't made many changes. They've lost some guys on defense.

The Patriots are the worst team in the NFL. Well, Stu, let me ask you this. You said don't show me your MVPs from Green Bay. What if he shows you his VPs from Washington, D.C.? Stu? I was waiting for that. What? What?

Oh, no. You guys are unscaring. Oh, boy. That's fair with Aaron, right? Yeah, I think it's totally fair, especially because that roster is super. You guys are unscary. That's fair with Aaron, right? Yeah, I think it's totally fair. Especially because that roster is super, it's like as all in gets, right?

You got a bunch of veterans who have injury history, who are good, but have an injury history, one-year deals for the likes of Mike Williams and Tyron Smith. They are definitely situated to win now, and so he has to meet the moment and obviously he's coming back from this horrible gruesome injury. Don Lebertard. God doesn't even know what this list is.

He was a head of Tom Brady who also won a playoff game. A couple, yeah. That was literally the most confusing list we've ever done. Chibos got a better shot at coming back. I'm mad. Give him a chance. He's got more liars. I'm mad. I'm angry. I'm angry at you. I wanna leave. Stugats. This would have been your day. This should be. You should own the sports media landscape right now. I am. Top seven guys. I would not want the Jets. No. No. Oh, f*** you. No. I'm not allowing it. Zach Wilson is number one. No. No. I'm not giving him a chance. I'm giving him 20 years. It's a car accident.

I've given him my prize. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. ["The Stugats Show Theme"] I loved it. Show me something. A few months ago, Dominique introduced me to something I did not know existed which is like a 400 million dollar tin of money for performance based

overachievement or underachievement and I read the list and Aaron Rodgers had the lowest payment, but I didn't need $81, but I didn't even know I mean that there was actually some sort of salary adjuster there that had been collectively bargained where these guys can actually make decent money if they vastly outperform their contracts. Yeah, Dominique actually brought it up in the context last year of the discussion about how to pay running backs,

which I thought was really smart of him, obviously. Dominique thinks a lot about these things. It is something like, it isn Obviously Dominique thinks a lot about these things. It is something like it isn't really talked about a lot or super well understood, but for guys on rookie contracts in particular, it's pretty meaningful money. Herdie was brought up right. I'm sure it was at the top. I don't know if he was the top earning over $700,000. That's a lot to him based on his salary. As far as Roger's goes, the $81, I mean, do you think they're actually gonna write him a check?

It's like when you get a, like a class action check for 10 cents and you have that debate over whether or not to, is it worth my time? I just thought it was a funny reminder, right? I thought it was a funny, pinging, stinging reminder for Aaron Rodgers to check through his finances and just see like, oh, paid more poorly for my performance

than anyone in the league. $81, that's not, that burns. $20 a play. That's, yeah. It's not bad. $20 a play. This interview with Mina Kimes is presented by LinkedIn jobs.

That was excellently done the way that you snuck that in there. Can we rapid fire through three minutes of football with you? Are you ready to do this fast? Yeah. You don't want to talk about the digs trade? Or do you want to do this? Yes. I wanted to do digs first because that is not, it would appear that's not salary cap,

dead money. Everyone's a finance expert. You tell me. It feels like, oh, the relationship was bad there, just like Stephen A Stephen A Smith said it was I think it's really interesting from the bill side from Texan side you get it's pretty obvious You don't have to really like, you know, they're all in it's a great wide receiver trio There I mean, it's a little bit there's a little bit of risk to it because it digs age and his performance last year Which kind of gets to the bill side, but yeah I've seen it compared to what the Chiefs did with Tyreek Hill,

right? Where they decided to trade Hill to Miami and move on because they wanted to both keep the window open for Mahomes, but also extend it by getting younger on defense. And they had a lot of, I'm not, no, no, no. And they had a lot of faith in Mahomes' ability to play with a somewhat limited set of wide receivers. And people are asking, you know, the same thing apply to Buffalo, even though they don't have a Travis Kelsey in Buffalo. But I would say it's not really the same thing, because when you traded Tyree Kill, not only did you get significantly more in return, right? That was also in part because Tyree Kill wanted that monster contract extension, which is what he got from Miami. Not the case with Stepan Diggs. They already paid him, and as you said, they absorbed this massive,

massive cap hit of 30 million, I think it was 31 million dollars, which is the most ever for a wide receiver. There was a dead cap hit, which suggests that it was, it's not similar to the Hill trade because it's not about paying him, not about that Miamath return. They really did not want him on his football team. So is it about football? Well, in the last eight games of the previous season, he averaged just over 43 yards per game under five targets. He was kind of being phased out of the offense.

So certainly that plays into things. He is 31 years old. I still think he's a really good wide receiver, but his game is on the decline. But to me, if you're taking that kind of cap hit, especially if you're a team that is supposed to compete in the Super Bowl in the present tense, it has to be about more than football.

Pop goes the weasel. I'm really digging that trade. Get out. Oh God. Get out. That's right. Mina, you want to do this because it's so interesting, the mechanics of this.

Diggs made Josh Allen matter from where I was looking. Obviously his growth had more to do with a lot of things than just that, but is Diggs's, I don't know, was it the last act of his career to drop the pass that would have ended up saving all of everybody there? Because I mean, that's a championship worthy team. Yeah, I don't think that was his last act,

but it is certainly something that will be remembered. You know, you don't get Josh Allen without this version of Josh Allen without Stupak-Din-Dix early in his career. That trade was super astute on the part, obviously it worked out for Minnesota as well because they drafted Justin Jefferson. But for the Bills, it was so integral

to Josh Allen's development, which is something to keep in mind as we consider these young rookie quarterbacks coming to the NFL, how meaningful it is to have, and not just a number one wide receiver, but a number one wide receiver like Stefan Diggs, who's this great route runner, he's so good at getting open, he's got really good hands.

But I do think, you know, there are legitimate questions about his performance. At the end of his time in Buffalo and how important he was to the offense. Josh Allen, he doesn't need him anymore in the sense that like he doesn't need Stefan Diggs in particular, but he does need someone and God knows they don't have anyone right now Are you dancing? Are you? If there's a sound effect going on I can't hear it and all I see is Dan like rhythmically bobbing his head in silence Oh now I hear it this whole time has there been music playing while I was talking because I didn't hear it itself It's so

I actually kind of like doing it without the music because I didn't feel like the You said no to me when I asked you to speed it up. You're still furious because you lost the quiz