The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: National WHAT Day?

Episode Date: October 19, 2023

Brad Williams joins Dan and the L.A. crew to discuss comedy in America and Hasan Minhaj. Then, Mike' Morrissey story, Dan's baboon story, and Brad introduces us to an unfortunate holiday. Plus, John Elway is a horrible executive, and Mike McDaniel is weird. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugat's Podcast. Never mind in America, there simply cannot be a place in the world that is a better place for comedy than Los Angeles. Within a couple of miles radius, you have some giant legendary comedy clubs. I saw Pat and Oswald on Sunday. I saw Mark Marin on Monday. You've got an assortment of things happening this week in comedy. And I'm happy to have Brad Williams here along with Amin and Charlotte because the state of comedy is interesting to me.

It was already under some duress because so many comedians are complaining about not having freedom under cancel culture. But I'm watching Oswald and Mark Marin and they were both struggling with just everything that's happening in the world. Both of them have arrived in a place where they're thinking, America, as we know it, and the world as we know it,

is basically gonna be gone within eight years and they're trying to do comedy within that construct. There's everything that happens in Israel now is just depressing people all over the world. So Brad, when you first off, there's no place like this, correct? New York maybe comes close, but there can't be any place like Los Angeles in terms of having access to funding. Yeah. It's, there's New York and right now, Austin, Texas is kind of

on the come up with Rogan opening his club and on that six street where his club is located. There is like two or three other comedy clubs. So, but they don't have like the star power, like you just described where you can go to the comedy store and there's three rooms with the comedy store in every room. There's a national touring headliner that could be selling out of theater. I saw Cheppel in the belly room of the comedy store a few weeks ago and that's like, that holds 50 people.

And I'm sitting here going, oh my God, people would be paying thousands of dollars to be here. It's like watching a star picture and a minor league rehab assignment. Because they're just testing material. You could see they're reading from notes and stuff. It's like, it's watching them how it is they craft

their act. But Marin and Oswald were having legitimate difficulties with just the state of the times. Yeah. This is where I go for the ignorance, his bliss argument for myself. Now, Marin, he, a lot of his comedy is his personal thoughts and he's having a lot of thoughts right now on the state of the world. Me personally, I don't do that, but that's the wonderful part about comedy and why also

being Los Angeles is so great. You can see whatever comedian you want, you know, if you want a certain type of comic, you can, you can see them. If you want dirtier, if you want family friendly, if you want, you want the geniuses like Marin and Patton were there over at the Largo. That's where you saw them. That's like a smaller theater where you'll see Conan O'Brien pop up and that's not even one of the

club is down here, right? That's just, I mean, you could tell that thing is outdated. I'm surprised that both of those guys were performing there. Yeah, but that's where you go in LA. You kind of hone your material here in Los Angeles and you go out on the road and you take it there. The thing about also being here is comedians are naturally competitive people. So when I see Pat and Oswald go up and kill the room and I'm on next, now I'm like, shit, I better bring my A game. And then if I do well, then the comedian going on after me is like, because we don't have typical shows of like host feature headliner here.

It's just headliner, headliner, headliner, headliner for 15 minutes each. So there is definitely sometimes I'm about to go on and I'm like, all right, I'm just going to work on some new stuff. And then Ali Wong goes on before me and destroys and I'm like, all right, let's break out the old jokes. And because I'm competitive. I want to, I want to kill right after one of the biggest comics working today. Uh, so yeah, there, there is, and like that whole iron

sharpened iron, we're all getting better because we're constantly surrounded by each other. You mentioned Rogan. It's been fascinating to watch his rise. And I've also been a little bit confused to see him and Russell brand emerge as maximum truth tellers when I almost always think of comedians as liars. I think of them as people who just make stuff up and I understand that they're going to make stuff up. So I was a little surprised when Hassan Manage got into, I mean, basically lost the daily show, right? I'd also say Rogan isn't an ultimate truth teller, like I'm not you know check your mentions after this airs. No, I know.

Some have me. They both the more Brussels brand and Joe Rogan have emerged now as someone as people willing to tell you they're audience thinks that they're telling more truth than the average person when I just find that funny as an idea because comedians I don't think of as being involved in truth. But let me just Hassan Manage for those of you who do not know was involved in a great deal of controversy because he volunteered in an interview that he's just made up parts of his act

that involve hate crimes against his people. Yeah. Well, he's made up the parts where they're personal to him. The stories aren't untrue. Like they have happened all over the country, but his like the part where like, and then this happened to me, that part is in ballast, which I'll leave it a bread,

but I'm like, isn't that what standoff comics do? They take something that's funny and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna craft a story about how I was walking down the street. Like, do we think they were walking down the street? Yeah, whenever we say the other day, no, that didn't happen the other day. I mean, the other day was four years ago and we're still telling this bit. But so there is that line of course comedians are going to make stuff up.

That's what I think the comedian is the best at is we all lead funny lives. The comedian in general is the best at finding that incident that has happened to many people and finding how to change it and find the funny in it. And so like I mean said, these things have happened in the world. Hassan just makes them more personal. I think where people got mad at Hassan is that because he made them personal, it made them feel a certain way. And now when they find out that didn't happen to him, their feeling feels betrayed.

There, there, there might be a line the comedians have that we can't make up, but I don't know what that line is because for me, the job of the comedian is ultimately to entertain the audience. Were you entertained? You felt that thing. Okay. mission accomplished. I get why people would be upset, but at the same time, you step back and you go every movie that they said based on a true story, you think cool runnings was a documentary? You think

they're just, you think right before going down the hill, all the guys right, feel the rhythm, feel the rest. Wake on up, it's bumps at that time. Like, no, we make stuff up for comedic effect and to entertain you the audience. So enjoy it. You're back to enjoy it. And it's not even the worst thing Hassan Manage has ever done. The worst thing Hassan Manage has ever done. I mean, you know this because I said this on your on your show way way back

long ago. The worst thing Hassan Manage ever did. I was in a celebrity basketball game with that guy. I was on his team. We were coming back, a roaring comeback against the likes bad bunny was on my team. It was before he was bad bunny. It was going amazing. He was good bunny. Yeah. Yeah. He was good bunny. He was really misbehaving buddy. Luke Warren bunny. And then we were coming back. Hassan gets the ball. He's he's coming down. We need a three pointer to tie this ball game up. Ray Allen is on the wing. Ray, mother, F being Allen. I don't know. He said a couple of big threes in his life. He's open statistically. He had that point. The greatest three point shooter in the history of the NBA. Hassan took the shot. No. Why

Hassan? Ray out. He could have just let Ray take it and said he made it. Ah, yes. This is an Antonio McDice on the wing. This is Ray Allen and Hassan took the shots. So don't go at Hassan for bending the truth a little bit and entertaining you with his stories. Go at him for that. Charlotte, do you know the movie cool running? So I don't expect you to. I just love that he was referencing the Jamaican Bob sled team,

the Olympic Bob sled team from 40 years ago. The thing about Hassan Manage though, and one of the things that I think is interesting that's happening in comedy where some comedians become the modern day philosophers. They become some of our smartest people that we're listening to, whether it is Chappelle or Bill Mar. I think this is a crime if you even if you don't think it's an egregious crime i think it's enough to have cost in the daily show like if you are somebody

who is going to be in the that lane as the host of somebody who's comedy but news and we made john steward become a trusted news source i i can see that because if you're jim gaffigan and you lie about your experience with bacon, that doesn't have the necessary weight that Hassan Menage saying his daughter was sent anthrax in the mail that that happens. So I get that people are upset. Me as the comedian, I kind of see the whole thing as being equals where I stand back and go, yeah, we're all comedians. We're giving an experience to the audience. I get how

people can feel betrayed, completely understand it. But I think one thing that the audience really wants is authenticity. We laugh at Jim Gaffigan talking about bacon because they're like, yeah, I bet that guy eats a lot of bacon. That's authentic. When Neil Brennan goes on stage and has his thoughts about being a neurotic vegan, we look at Neil and go, checks out. If I went on stage and told jokes about being my experiences as a six foot four black man, even if they were funny, people would be like, you don't think you've actually had that happen to you. I also think though that it depends what you are asking of the audience when you tell these

jokes. Like saying your daughter was sent anthrax engenders a lot of sympathy from the audience and a lot of like feeling for someone and thinking how horrible that end to find out. Wait, that wasn't, I just, I spent a lot of emotional energy on you and your daughter. Yeah. And now your time it didn't happen. Whereas if you burn your bacon, I'm not going to feel as bad for you. I think the stakes are different. And I don't, I don't think it's, it's all the same. I think it does depend on subject material. In a weird way, Dan, it reminds me of people not being able to discern between analysts and reporters on for sports, for instance, right?

They would say, oh, the media is always lying. I don't believe the story written by Nick Ferdell or whatever. Why? Well, I saw Stephen A Smith said this on first take. Well, no, no, but that's a different role. That's not Stephen A Smith reporting. That's Stephen A Smith on a debate show. And they can't, they don't know the difference.

I think the audience cares to make that discerning of a distinction. So it's the same thing for me, you know, he talked about John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Hassan, Roy Wood, all these guys that Don Oliver, all these guys that host these comedic news shows. And they are, they are all guys. Chelsea Hamlin. But comedic news shows, right? But they're also stand up comics.

There's a difference between when Hassan hosts Patriot Act, which was his show on Netflix, where it is fact-based and kind of journalistic in nature. When John Oliver does last week tonight, it is journalism in a sense, even though it's also aggregation, what they're doing is they're aggregating other people's journalistic work. Versus when they're on stage,

they're telling jokes, man, to comedians, when people have a hard time of dividing the two. But especially when it's hate crimes, though, right? I guess that is a personal thing to a lot of people and a lot of people have unfortunately gone through that. And so I get why people are upset. So when I tell a story about someone driving after me in a pickup truck in in Odessa, Texas yelling kill the dwarf. That did really happen to me, but I could understand why someone would be like, oh, wait, that like if they found out that was false, they would probably be upset

because of the feelings that that made them feel. But Brad, I'm pretty sure you don't like somberly to say and then the guy in a pickup truck You're making a you're gonna make a joke out of it. Yeah, you're gonna make us laugh Isn't that the point? Yeah, the joke being that he used the correct terminology Wow, he did it. He did it. See the M word. Yeah, we call me a midget So he like like all right, let's hear you out progress. Yeah At public mobile we do things differently. From our subscription phone plans to throwing a big sale right now when no one else is. Well, maybe they are, but who cares, our sale is better.

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You should listen to the Great Cody Show podcast because that's all we do for 55 minutes a week is just say catch phrases. We even make songs about them and you know it is a song for crying out loud. That's great. Hopefully that's a Sui nominee for best song. And you know it baby and you know it. Stugats. And you know it baby and you know it. And you know it baby and you know it.

And you know it baby and you know it. This is the Don't Liberty show with this two cats. I was talking to Brad Willie who's before we recorded this segment. We're both Smith fans, not Jaden Will. Just more like discharming man Smith's. And I had recently seen Morrissey as I told you in the audience and we were laughing about a story that I recently read because Morrissey wrote the CEO of Whole Foods and Jeff Bezos to take the money already. It feels like a random lib generator. Yeah, right.

It is so far and it's going to get even bloodier. An email he's firing it off. I like it. I think Morrissey writes that. He uses a quill, but not with a feather from an animal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No, just picked from his own, his own locks. Yes. So he wrote the, the Bezos and the CEO of Whole Foods to demanding that they remove the brand of coconut milk from their shelves because the coconut milk that they sell there is picked by violently trained monkeys. And Charlotte and I were trying to piece together. Well, yeah, there's a grammar issue here. So violently trained, is it violently comma trained monkey? Like the monkeys are trained and they're violent. I'm assuming it's that they're trained

using violent methods because I don't know why Morrissey would have issue with a bunch of like really hard-o monkeys kicking coconuts. Yeah, I picked coconut. What are the? Yeah. Causing them with people like. I just figure like those shots of like the Shaolin monks all training all in the field, but it's monkeys. Yeah.

Just all doing kadas. Just doing the kill bill like fish training. I'm kind of down with the thought of a violent monkey, but I've also never come face to face with a violent monkey, especially when I'm in the way of the monkey and the coconut. I have, I have actually come, I, well, I don't know. I'm going to say bad boons are monkeys. Monkey family, monkey. Uh, do I have, where's wrong again?

I'm on the A-Panel. A baboon. When I was in Africa, this is actually a funny story involving my wife. I'm going to say, I don't think it's the funniest thing I've seen visually with my wife, but it's up there because she was in a bathroom and there were a lot of places where there were just monkeys and those were friendly enough and not dangerous. But we were warned about the baboons and my wife is coming out of a public bathroom and she can't see what's outside, but I can see what's outside.

And I can see that there is a baboon approaching. And as I'm about to tell her, hey, Han, you need to be careful here. What happens is she comes sort of face to face with the baboon and my wife jumps up and screams and runs in the other direction. But so does the baboon. The baboon jumped, yes, the baboon ran. They both frightened each other and then ran in opposite directions. That is incredible.

It is terrifying. Yes. Terrifying, for best. and then ran in opposite directions. That is incredible. That is terrifying. Yes. Terrifying. I mean, we've all heard the 911 call of the monkey that ripped off the lady's face. And I like how there's a, have we, I mean, we did talk about, I listened to it twice last week.

That easy there is doing a lot of heavy lifting. He's just me. I remember the story. We talked to Ron McGill about this woman. That's cool. We met Ron McGill. Had a bad expert. Yes, we needed it is.

I think that is the original story. We needed an expert to talk about. Should you have that as a pet and then the answer was no, obviously not because her pet destroyed her face. Someone that had grown up watching Sabo de Higante. I was like, I know just the guy. I like that you saw a baboon about to go face to face with with the love of your life and your response was a hunt. I wasn't. Where is it between fight and fight? I was beginning to get out of the thought and the baboon was not. I'm painting this as if they were

nose to nose. They were not quite that close, but they were close enough to frighten each other. With the same amount of enthusiasm as you would if she had a little bit of lipstick on her teeth. You said, uh, uh, honey, you have a baboon in your general. Like you grandpa.

Yeah. I do think the visual of the Babu, that's like out of loony tunes, like they're both jumping up in the air and running away. That's beautiful actually, it's high comedy. Yeah, because she's, where were you staying in Africa? That this was, I understand that you're out there on Safari, but you knew that the very real possibility

would be that your wife is brushing her teeth, and then she turns a corner in his face-to-face with a baboon. That is not actually, that is not the scariest story that happened in Africa to me. I don't stay in a hotel if it doesn't have a microwave in the room. You're like, oh, baboons, roaming the premises.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever done that I'm about to explain to you. It might be, well, if I had died this way, it would have been the dumbest thing I had ever done. And I had the very real fear that I was going to die because we were staying on a private resort that at the time that I went into the place we were staying was vibrant and had a lot of workers and no one told me that 11 pm everybody was leaving. And so it's about eight or nine cottages and I needed to get a charger for my electronic equipment. And I come out at 11, I keep in mind, this is an area,

giraffe and zebra's, this is the wild, is outside of the shrubbery that is in case, where we're in case, but it's a really nice place. And at the time that I went into the cottage, everything felt American and luxurious, right? Like I'm American, that's it. No, no, but what I'm saying is like in terms of hospitality or luxury, it felt like a resort that could have been

anywhere in the world where people were saying that was fancy and it was bustling. There were a lot of lights on. Everybody was there, but as I came out, the last of the lights went off. And I kept walking along a path that had some lights on it and started hearing in the trees and everything. I started hearing. There was a lot of animal things happening. It's been terror. And it's dark and no one's around. And now I've gone far enough that I can't quite find my way back. I can't, like I'm a little bit lost.

And I keep in mind this is all enclosed, okay? But what swept over me was very real and justified terror because those were big animals that I was hearing rustling around in the dark and I realized fairly instantaneously that I was food. I don't generally feel that way. It's a I think that's actually an important month. That's a humbling moment as a person. Be like, oh, we actually and we don't run this. Yeah, even though I don't have home court advantage. Yeah, you don't. Have you guys ever come to my, I have a strange dream that I would love to see a bear in the wild.

Like, I don't want to be that close that it's dangerous, but I would really just love to see a bear in the woods at some point in my life. No, no, no, no, because what if that bear is a mama? I say, there's always these terrifying videos on social media of a bear just chasing people that are on a hiking trail. I saw this one of a cougar and it was like six minutes of a cougar like started.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, thinking that he's going to die for like six minutes, I was just watching the entire video. No, I never want to see anything in the world. Okay. I get terrified if large birds are flying over my head, because I'm like, yeah, they can probably take me. They can probably just pick me up and drop me off and ask.

You, your wife has the fear that my wife has about her cats on our balcony, that one of these birds of prey is going to come and recognize that her cats, our cats are a meatloaf in the wild. It's so, like, literally I had to take our dog for a walk two nights ago. And my wife yelled, yelled at it, like, Hey, be very careful for you. There's coyotes around. You're like, well, we have a dog too. There's coyotes around. Like, well,

we have a dog too. She's like, dog will be fine. The dog's fine. We have, we have a 90 pound pit ball. He's good. Me. She's worried about this coyote taking me. This happened to me two days ago here because we're staying in the hills. I believe in the baboon story. Well, that's it. I have a lot more questions. Stan. I have a coyote. I have coyote stories just from two days ago, because we didn't know what the sound was. It's six o'clock in the morning when it was still dark. We're in the hills, right? And you don't realize when you're staying here necessarily in the hills that again, it's their land, not yours.

You built something there, but it's not yours. And what we heard howling in the shrubbery was clearly a pack of coyotes that was howling at another pack of coyotes, and you can't see any of it. It's just all in, it's in the trees, but it's very close by. And there's like, we're adjacent to a pickleball court that where the net has clearly been eaten by wild animals. Like you can just see that it's all. That's such a California.

And I wonder why like everything's bad like that right there. This is why we're setting up pickleball courts and in a coyotes home. They're like, why are the animals attacking? Well, you said you put a pickleball court and it's it's house uh... charlotte the bear strategy should you ever encounter it because uh... ron McGill has told us that if it is chasing you you are doomed if you run you have to uh... stand up just so that you know it's emergency information you stand up and make yourself big and just well i'm dead

i have a big breath well and make yourself big and just... Well, I'm dead. I am dead. You gotta get big, Brad. Well, due to certain genetic conditions that I possess, I don't think that's that. Get big, okay, the size of half of the cup. I don't think that Charlotte and Mike realize what a huge get, probably not the right adjective to use. What a huge get it is to have you this week because later this week is national throw a short person day. It is October 21st is national throw a short person day according to urban dictionary.

So on that day, that's where I go in my doomsday bunker. And that is the Dwarf version of the purge where for 24 hours, it is lawlessness out there at society. And yeah, it's like, what? We're in vent. Like I already had to be cautious around St. Patrick's Day and the entire holiday season And now we just invented more days Is my condition that of that of being a dwarf is that the only one where we would have a national

You know like is there a national push a wheelchair down in the I'm just missing here They could yet who If there's like national donut day, and then it's like that, these are different. These are not the same. It seems like you're scared of this subject, man. No, it's just really mean.

You would come up with that day. And there's also a lot of people who are national donut days. It is also like something that happens one of the one or the scariest part is because like, I'm sort of the voice of my people. I get sent this frequently in my like my DMs are just like, Hey, it's national stab a dwarf day. And you're like, Oh, it like it's like it's national tossed a little person. You need to do you need to get more to see the rightil letter.

Strongly strong. We need to get a bunch of violently trained monkeys to watch over you on National Throwshorpe, or Person Desk. I want that. I, I, I, I want a force field of violently trained monkeys to attack when someone tries to throw me. More, let's get on that. Don Lebertard.

It's just one thing, but we need to establish a reasonable out. Yeah. We may be established on some reasonable out. Yeah, so that's it. We're not in a true path. So fun! We're in a true path. We're in a true path. We're in a true path. We're in a true path. We're in a true path. We're in a true path.

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Brad Williams, the comedian who will be appearing in Danya at the Danya improv, November 16th through the 19th is wearing a t-shirt that is the Golden Girls with Ric Flair, the Golden Girl. There's a Golden Girls themed restaurant that's opening in Miami shortly. And Rick Flair makes me think of how great that Kevin Harlan call was of the Tyree Kill touchdown where Tyree Kill beats the corner

and does a back flip in the end zone and celebrates by videotaping himself in the end zone. Kevin Harlan, and I felt so bad for the corner on this play because you're chasing Tyree Kill. You're stumbling with your momentum behind Tyree Kill. You fall on the floor and you're staring straight ahead of Tyree Kill doing a backflip in front of you now as Kevin Harland is shouting to the nation. Oh, he smoked him and then he goes, woo! And as I'm watching all of that, Tyree Kill is on pace to have more receiving yards

than anybody has ever had in a season. I'm thinking of Rad Williams' Denver Broncos and how they are. They are the opposite of everything that the Miami Dolphins are and in the off-season I'm guessing that you had an enormous amount of hope that he was going to go in and fix Russell Wilson Wilson's been Okay, they can't score, but he's been better than he was last year. Yeah, it that's the barrier to entry He's okay. He can't score. Well, that's a key part

of being a quarterback, but he's been better than he was last year. And that shows you how bad he was last year. Well, he's not the sole reason they're losing anymore. Now they have several reasons, including the coach that they gave up draft capital and several million dollars to the most disappointing thing for Brad has to be that this is only the start of their attachment to Sean Payton. There's and Rosa Wilson years, years to go. Like I think maybe 2032 is when we finally have a draft pick. Uh, so other than that, it's just I, I, I, let, let, let, being a Broncos fan, my whole

life has been, uh, you know, there's three super balls. So I'm very happy. And of course, it, of course, the T bow year, which I would argue was more exciting than some's three super balls. So I'm very happy. And of course, it of course, the T-bow year, which I would argue was more exciting than some of the super balls. But, but now, oh, the pain and just the fact that this is two years in a row where in the off season, I legit thought, oh, this team's gonna be good.

They can't see that's the thing. It's being this team's gonna be good. They're gonna be good. See, that's the thing. It's being bad, anyone can be bad. Everyone's used to be in bad. No problem. It's when you think you're gonna be good. And you're not only not good. Oh, we got Randy Gregory. We got DJ Jones.

We got Russell Wilson. Frank Clark. Superbowl. Yeah, we got all these guys. I would shine, Peyton, it's gonna finally fix right all that It's just the hope like if I'm a like it like back when you were a Cleveland Browns fan Mike Every year you you would just know like well, it's not gonna be good Right, there was like maybe three years was like last year wasn't that bad We have something good to build on there'd be some new new savior quarterback that you would stop believing in after a season.

Brandon Weeden. Yeah, but I mean, your existence as a Bronco fan has generally been charmed. Yes. You've never looked at an extended run of poor form. Has it ever felt worse than it did when it was 70 to 20? Is that as bad as it to ever felt to love that football team. The worst it ever felt was when I paid thousands of dollars to go watch the Broncos in the

Super Bowl against the Seahawks get absolutely destroyed by the same Russell Wilson. What is this life? This man kills me and then he comes on my team and if you can't beat him, join him and he's joining and then he comes on my team. If you can't beat him, join him and he's joining and then he's worse. But yes, 70 to 20 from a coach that was literally a ball boy grew up in the system is a is a Broncos fan. If you ask him, what is your team growing up? He would tell you I'm a Denver Broncos fan.

I'm friends with Dan Soder who is obviously friends with your coach and he's telling me yeah, he wanted to go there. He wanted to be the Broncos coach, could not get an interview, couldn't get an interview. Kyle Shanahan is the son of Mike Freaking Shanahan. Also grew up in the system is a Broncos fan. Nope, can't get him about John L.A. on the way out. We'll try for us. I'm out. Yeah. Your problem. Walmart guys enjoy. And Walmart ownership looks at it. Like, well,

how do we fix this? Russell Wilson thing that's out of the way. I don't know. We got Condoleez a rice in the ownership. Can she do something that who came up with the idea to give up like how many first round traffic? Did you give up for Sean Payne? Well, for Sean Payton. It was one first one pick, but it was other draft picks as well. It was other draft picks. Russ was like, all right. So yeah, you got our first round for like two years. It's it's like, we can't even tank for Caleb Williams. I don't even think we have a draft in the NFL.

Yeah, the NFL kind of legislates that, okay, you have this Russell Wilson problem, but you can just draft a quarterback and you could survive that big contract. If you get your QB savior at Russell Wilson problem, but you can just draft a quarterback and you could survive that big contract if you get your QB savior at a low price, but you don't have the draft capital to go out and get the quarterback in a great quarterback class. What can we just trade Russell for Kurt Cousins and just have the exact same thing happen with both teams? I don't know.

That's like the Indiana Jones like swapping. I don't think so. I don't think so.'s like the Indiana Jones like swap So it's like we finally get away from this Kirk cousins contract to bring in the Rosa Wilson contract To me the most desperate part is there really is no end in sight. No, there's nothing. You're just stuck with this I named my daughter after one of my favorite Broncos players of all time of course Sammy Winder and No, we got that joke. Anyway, but I would have been weird if it were Rubin's own. I did, I did name her after a Broncos player. And now she grows up having that we're like a few years ago, it would have

been like, Oh my God, that's your name. That's awesome. And now there's signed jerseys on the wall. And now that means nothing, nothing. Little Russell Wilson will go. So sad. I want to ask you though, how you feel about L-Way because obviously as a player, he was magnificent, probably the best athlete in the history of the city. But, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo throughout to get any quarterbacks. He didn't know that Peyton Manning was good. He knew Peyton was good. But he saw Peyton Manning with his, with his one, he's his new snack and said he could still do it. And then they won with him being bad, which was a good one. They won with Peyton Manning throwing nine touchdowns and 17 interceptions that season. The worst season Peyton Manning has ever had. Brock Osweiler, praise, praise, praise

his name. Under his Galarugway, like a way, like a way. You can keep doing that if you want. There aren't gonna be a lot better than L way, but how do you, I have to remove, how do you feel about L way as an executive? Because on his way out, he saddles you with about $300 million in guaranteed

money for Russell Wilson, who's now gonna be in his late 30s on that contract. God, that hurt. You just saying that. Uh, I would say that he did put together this quad that won the Super Bowl in 2015. So you can't say it was a complete failure. There are many franchises that would give up. God knows how many, like what would stew gods give?

How many years of suffering to have one jet Super Bowl, one more jet Super Bowl during his lifetime? So I can't say he's a complete failure, but you have to look at it and be like, like, wow, and now he is out of the ownership and out of the front office. And we bring in George Patton, who helps with the Russell Wilson trade and also trades for Sean Payton. So, I don't know, how's that Marlon's GM?

Can we get her in? Can we get her going? Patrick Wall would like a word. Oh, that's not bad, actually. That's actually pretty good. Exactly, because actually in the conversation, because he won he won one as a player and as an executive. So I guess he would like a word. Adam foot would like a word.

That jersey sold so many Adam foot. So cut some for game. Sweet. So many foot jerseys out there man. Everywhere you go. Claude Lemieux. We'll keep going. You meant you mentioned Mike McDaniel. I don't know if the rest of you have enjoyed

as much as I have his miced-up segments. There have been a few this this year that I've really enjoyed. We made fun of at length, Geno Smith screaming, oh my God, when Aaron Donald came through the middle of line. Geno Smith being human. Yes, anybody would shout the same thing. Speaking of which, there was another one this week because Kirin Williams of the Rams was hit by Jordan Davis a couple of weeks ago. Jordan Davis is 6,6,340, something pounds. And what you heard after the squashing sound

was just a whimper that said, oh shit, which was Kirin Williams, oh shit, which was Kirin Williams, but Mike McDaniel was miked up and he's and he's just talking to himself, all game. And he says, I'm fighting myself and myself is winning. He is really unusual and his none of this would be charming if he didn't have an offense that was on a pace to blow out all other offenses in the history of the sport.

Oh, a thousand percent. You tolerate the weirdness and you tolerate this stuff. Now, if he was losing and talking to himself, he'd be like, oh my God, our coach is insane. He's legitimately insane. But the fact that he has this historical offense and just players that are always open makes you go like, yeah, whatever he does, fine. So I remember Adam Gase in the press conference where he was doing the crazy eyes.

Yeah. Like if that come out in 115 games, he's like, oh, guys great, right? They call it genius when it works, when it doesn't work. You just, yeah, loon. But speaking of genius, though, are you surprised anyway? You've told us before that these people

who are great at what they do can't necessarily coach it can't necessarily explain to others why it is they were great, which is why most superstars don't end up being great coaches. But don't you think someone like John L.A. should be able to spot in a quarterback future development that the rest of us could not spot? Well, he very clearly couldn't spot future development because he just kept drafting tall guys. But he saw the finished product with Peyton Manning is like, I'll take him. He's better than T-bow.

I just, if it's on finished, but yeah, I just realized someone else that's in the great state of Colorado, Deon Sanders would like a word. Yeah. With the second and last team in the pack 12. Yeah. What? These are early head of errors on a state. Yeah, with the second and last team in the pack 12. Yeah What these are early head of Arizona state No, Dan. Here's the thing. I don't think it's about

The inability to explain in that case. I think the other thing is Players whether they're great or not tend to have a bias for guys that they see something of themselves in for whatever reason Like it might be a little thing, but that reminds me of me. And then they complete that with like this person has it. And then they put their trust in it. So I think player evaluation sometimes is, in case it's a science where you got to sit down and actually do the math rather than just kind of gut feeling he could play, he can't play.

And again, for the star player, the great player, I was like, no, I know, because he's got that thing that I had. And I was great, so hence he's going to be great too. But how is it that you pick terrible quarterbacks? Like all of them are terrible. It's not like any of them even have a modicum of success other than the ones who we all can see can play that were Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson. What's Nathan Peterman doing right now? The Peter man. Can we get him? Where is he right now? I think he's still around. Is he? Yeah. What's working? He's not

in Oakland. No, I think he's right. I think Mike is right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to hashtag right next to you. You'll tell me Trevor Simions on a Rossi is on the job. No, he's not. Yeah, yeah, I was right. Nathan Peterman is a quarterback for the Chicago Bears. As if that franchise is back there. Yeah, They they very clearly saw something they liked