The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Not Your Traditional Author (Feat. David Samson)

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

David Samson joins the show to continue promotion of Stugotz's Personal Record Book (stugotzbook.com) and tells us how much effort he put into his part of the book. SPOILER ALERT: not a whole lot. Stugotz tells us he has a plan to thank all of the people that wrote his book for him, he just doesn't know what they are yet. He also reveals that he tried to get Pablo Torre to do an episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out about the making of his personal record book. Speaking of revelations, David Samson has some shocking ones about dance recitals, Elton John's sunglasses and how he used to get out of Thanksgiving. Plus, Mike Ryan is still reeling from The Coffee Table and Samson has a movie review. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Look at David Sampson. He's got his reading glasses on. He is here to support and promote the bestselling author of Much Acclaimed, Stu Gotts. You have your personal copy, Samson, were you recruited to write anything for the book? Indeed I was, Dan.

Duh. Here I am in chapter 33, and I want to tell you the story of how this absolute train wreck happened. I got an email from a guy I didn't know, not from Stu of course, it was this guy who's now on the title of the book, Dan Stanzak. He said, listen, Stu Gotz is writing a book and he'd very much appreciate it if you would write an essay, an essay, about why Shohei Otani's contract is or is not

the worst contract in the history of sports. And I did what any friend of Stu would do. I ignored it because I assumed that there was no book that was gonna be written and I wasn't gonna waste my time. And then I got a follow-up email, still not from Stu, had not heard a word from him yet. And then I got a follow up email, still not from Stu, had not heard a word from him yet. Follow up email, hey, we're going to print soon,

do you think that you could get us your essay on Shohei Otani and his contract? And I responded saying, okay, I will put as much effort into this as Stu did into the book. And I then sent, right here on page 204 and 205, a two pager on Otani. And I did it in one draft and I made one phone call, Stu. I must tell you, I made one phone call.

I called Dan and I said, Dan, is this book real? That was question number one. And he said, I don't think so though. I'm writing a forward F O R W A R D. Yep. And do you think I need to make it nice? And then I said, second question, Dan, will Stu ever read what I wrote?

And Dan said, absolutely not. So I sent it, and then I went on Amazon, and I bought the book because, Stu, I don't know how else I'd get the book. So I had multiple copies sent to me because I want to help you in your endeavor. Thank you. How many, by the way?

I actually only bought four, I apologize. You should have bought eight, but okay, anyway, go ahead. But I bought them at retail. It would have been great if you said 27,000. What a great joke. I'll take it. I mean, I don't care. What does he care?

And I will only tell you that having read the books, Stu, what makes me smile is that you have arguments in here that are so asinine that you are gonna end up not taking credit for them which is why you're saying you didn't write them that's what's funny about this book is that your positions are so crazy the Kevin Durant one is all mine the Elijah one not having any rings all mine Starks never going to of 18 all mine. All of those are mine. I'll take them. They're good takes. They're good takes. I found that a lot of people were agreeing with my takes. That's what I found. So that was interesting. Billy you are smirking back

there and it's red-faced and it seems like it might be shame. I can't tell. I'm embarrassed. Because? On Stu's behalf, you didn't send books to the actual people that wrote books. Like David had to buy four books. We sent David a book. We did, he knows, he got a book. So I will tell you what happened, Billy, is that I did go on Amazon, I did the pre-order,

and then I got a book from Stu that had a letter in it. And Stu did write the letter that I, Stu, can you confirm to me that you wrote the letter that you inserted when you sent me a copy along with the other co-authors of the book? Did you write that yourself? No, that was Stan's job. And Taylor. Oh, it was?

Yeah, and Taylor, yeah. Yeah, so I found it to be less grammatically perfect. It wasn't a letter, it was weekend observations. Right. I understand that you'll get your personalized copy very soon to suggest that I'm not going to do anything for all the great people, wonderful people that contributed to this book. I understand why you would think that.

I understand why everyone would think that. But I have plans for you guys that just don't know what they are yet. So generally, Stu, the way it works with being an author is that these things are done prior to the publication of the book. Yeah. I'm not your traditional author, David. So I'll do things on my speed, on my pace, on my watch. How does that sound?

But you're going to cash the traditional checks, I assume. Oh, yes. On time. On time. Yeah. So I would just suggest that you should contact, there's a lot of amazing people, me not included, though I'm thankful to be in it, I guess,

that did this for you. And the irony is that all of the people who wrote the counters to your points, I did some checking. I spoke to Pablo when we did some finding out. Those people actually did write those sections of the book. Yes. Yeah. Pablo wrote one. I don't I don't recall asking Pablo to do anything for the book. I mean, no, he has in fact I asked Pablo to do. Yeah, you

know, I asked him to do an episode on the book to help promote the book because Lord knows all we do around here is promote Pablo and I didn't get you. I got a frosty response. I got to be honest with you. mean, Pablo's been coming down here. He sits in the chair. He does the show with us. I try to make him feel comfortable. I share my platform with him.

I let him promote whatever he wants to promote. I asked him to do one episode to promote the book. Frosty response. What is there to find out? He's got a certain standard. How I wrote it. But you didn't. It was a good idea though. How did Stigatz write a book?

And that was the joke. He should do a round table with all the people who wrote it for him and not even have Stigatz show up for it. That's a good idea. Just promote the book. I don't care. What was the Frosty response?

I'm in the business of selling books. Yeah, what's his response? Read it to him. You coming up to New York at any time? It's like I had to come up to New York to do the episode. Give me a break. Come down here. I mean, give me a break.

Well, I wanna do an episode with you on nothing personal because I do wanna talk about this process because the decision to write a book is a very personal one. Yes. And the decision to do it in character and to do it in the lazy way in which it was done is also an interesting decision. And what I'm curious about is your relationship with the book

industry now, because you could be asked as a bestseller to rub elbows with other people in your position who are actually well-known and accomplished writers. And I'm wondering, it's not about matching heaters. I'm wondering how you will act in that situation. He's going to sell out a church next week with Greg Cody. Yeah, yeah. No, I heard that.

And that's that's great news that that is where I'm sure there'll be a lot of people on their knees. Sorry, no religious jokes, but that's very nice of you. So are you making people buy the book? I'm in the business of selling books, David. I am a best-selling author. Of course we are making people buy the book. Okay, that's good, but here's one other word of advice economically. You should agree to

also sign one other item that someone brings. Okay. But to do that, they have to buy a copy of the book. Okay. I will sign whatever anyone brings to that signing. I will. But I know you can't do no, you're trying to do an upsell. You're saying you're saying buy more books and I'll sign additional things. Is that what you're saying? You want me to upside item per book, right? Okay, good. So if you bring seven books, I have to sign seven items is what you're

saying. Yeah, that's yes. That is the math. I like it. Okay, good. So you're going to rip people off in a church. You want to join us? That's what you two are going to do. I'm giving away a cruise also David not to the people who come out to the church. Just or top sales guy which right now it's me. That's irresponsible. There are standards around here. You can't promise people we're giving them a cruise. It's the internet. Let me just say for Metalarc, on behalf of Metalarc,

if what Stu is saying, then it is open and available to everybody, no purchase necessary. God is watching, Stu, God's. And sales team, though. Listen, my finest work, as I pointed out earlier, happened in a church. I saved a wedding in a church. Churches like me.

Your finest work? Yes. I saved Mike's wedding, Dan. We have breaking NFL news. Daniel Jones has agreed to sign with the Minnesota Vikings. Wow. Several suitors. Wow.

He prioritized a team and playoff contention, a chance to play, QB friendly offensive system. This is all according to Jordan Schultz. You know what? Schultz-y. I will not. I can't stand it. I will not allow, you can't stand what?

That football trumps everything because what I'm gonna get furious about is that it trumps everything so thoroughly that we were talking about Stugatz's book and Daniel Jones going to back up in Minnesota or maybe start, I don't know how they feel about St. Darnold. Oh, look at you. You can open the door to entry stuff.

Whoa! Oh! What's getting interesting. Got three wows from Stu Gotts. That did not deserve three wows from the tired author, the tired, acclaimed author. Come on, that move didn't deserve to interrupt what we were doing.

That move. Stop now. Stop now. You do this all the time with me and Mike. And then Sam Darnold gets hurt and then Daniel Jones comes in and Helps win that team a big game that you weren't thinking Daniel Jones was going to win for the Vikings and then it becomes a good signing Okay, that's all Mike is saying. That's all we've ever said. My George Hill. I didn't say anything and it's he's excited about it I just reported someone else's news

No, because you do this all the time. There are these little moves. There are these little moves that are made throughout each sport, okay, and they happen during the season, and Mike and I get excited about them. We've been doing so for years, and then you poo poo on them, and it's not right because then all of a sudden, the George Hill is the classic example of a guy where you would say, why would you break into the show to tell us about George Hill? And then George Hill has 24 points, Eastern Conference semifinals, Game 2. That's why we brought up George Hill. Can you tell me how many championships George Hill has won and all the times he's been moved? The dozens of times he's been moved is a missing piece that's actually resulted in him being the missing piece. Why won't you give us a George Hill thing?

You just won't give us anything. You're wrong about the George Hill thing. He's got zero rings. Zero rings? So the missing piece. Why won't you give us a George Hill thing? You just won't give us anything. What's wrong about the George Hill thing? I just see you didn't even give it to us. He became a contributor. He's got zero rings. Zero rings? So the missing piece in zero places, George Hill, who we've been talking about for 15 years so much so that he just made his way into a Daniel Jones story. He became a contributor.

Yeah, exactly. That was Samaki Walker. Samson, can you tell me, play the music here because I wanna read something to Samson that is gloomy, but we've got happy music for it. Die We're all gonna die We're all gonna die

We're all gonna die We're all gonna die The oceans are all burning And we're all wondering why Let's turn on the news and find out how we're gonna die. Climate stat of the day, Sturgots. After the roof of Tropicana Field was ripped off last month by Hurricane Milton, the Tampa Bay Rays are playing next season at Steinbrenner Field, which has no roof. Major League Baseball announced on Tuesday that the Rays, in a first, will play 47

of their first 59 games at home and 69 of their final 103 on the road to quote optimize for the best weather conditions, which is code for avoiding extreme rain, heat, and storms. From June to September of this year, Tampa's had 52 inches of rain, topping 1945 for the wettest rainy season on record. Project 2025 would cancel the weather forecast, and Trump's pick for energy secretary is an oil industry CEO who says, quote, "'There is no climate crisis.'" Samson, the Rays have no shot to do anything this season

in the American League East because they have no home and also because everybody in their division has more money than they do. The other teams are better. I totally disagree. As a matter of fact, if you speak to the players, they'd rather be on the road because the crowds are bigger and they feel more into the game.

So we had our players always preferred to play on the road actually, because our attendance was so small. And so that's a pretty common thing. It's not as big a disadvantage as people are making it out to be for the race. If they don't win next year, it's just because they're not in a window to be competitive and teams like that have windows that open and close, but it really has nothing to do with the changing of the schedule. And I was just angry when I read it because it's not fair.

We had in Pro Player Stadium, we we never got our schedule changed. And we had to deal with all the rain delays and all of the issues with change of routine. And no one ever gave a flying rat's ass. So now Tampa, one year in Steinbrenner Field, and all of a sudden, oh, yeah, I change a bunch of series around and put them on the road. It's ridiculous. Why is it a flying rat's ass?

Like, and why is it a rat's ass to begin with? I don't give a rat's ass to begin with. Why? I don't understand. Where does it originate? Yeah, they're found right at the end of the bridge that's too far. Is it safe to possibly assume that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers also had something to do with this because they're going to be on the road as Tampa goes to its very nearby headquarters and uses a facility that's also on the ground They share parking. Yeah, I can see where that becomes an issue. You could schedule around it, but it probably gave it a nudge

No, especially the attendance isn't enough Mike at the Rays games and the capacity It's gonna be a lot like the Tampa Tarpons games, actually. I couldn't believe before we started here, did you guys hear, and for all his sour takes, David Sampson hating Thanksgiving? Who hates Thanksgiving? David does. Someone that probably can't taste the food.

Yeah, no, I just, I don't enjoy having to be on sort of performing for family and the drama. I used to do, this is a funny story in my head, to be on sort of performing for family and the drama. I used to do, this is a funny story in my head, I used to try to purposely make trades on Thanksgiving so I could get away from the Thanksgiving dinner. And so what I would do is- That's a heady play, man.

What? I mean. Revelation. Yeah, and we did it. And we actually succeeded in completing some transactions right on Thanksgiving Day. Find out for me, go find out for me so I can recreate these, some of the names

that were traded on Thanksgiving Day or around there by the Marlins. This should be a really fun Thanksgiving. Just generally. And everybody wants to turn to football for an escape and then someone scores a touchdown, does a dance, have fun everybody. I don't really feel as though

this is where you can critique me. I don't like turkey and cranberry sauce. I don't like taking out that knife that you're supposed to cut it with that you use once a year only. I don't like all the side dishes. I'm just not a big fan of people and the way they sit around and just nosh for six hours.

So the way I do Thanksgiving is a little different. I announced to the family that I'll be arriving at 4.02 p.m. and departing at 5.27 p.m. So I'm there for about an hour and 25 minutes and I'm in and I'm out. It's like going to Wisconsin. In 2005, the Marlins traded Josh Beckett, Mike Lowen, Guillermo Moda on Thanksgiving for Hanley Ramirez,

Annabel Sanchez, Harvey Garcia, and Hesust Elgato. That's a hell of a trade, man. Yeah, we got him out of Thanksgiving, though. Five hours, five hours at the Boca Raton, someplace in Boca where I was having a Thanksgiving meal, and I had young kids at the time. And it just occurs to me why I am in the position I'm in personally, but I left all of them at the table.

It just occurred to you. It just occurred to me. Wait, you just realized. The reason I'm not with my family anymore is because this is how I treated Thanksgiving. I'm curious if I go down this list of 10 biggest trades in Marlins history that from I think this is written in 2021 by Joe for sorrow if I give you these dates I wonder if these align with like your children's birthdays and stuff like that I like oh here's a graduation it was a Ponzi scheme, but I would tell

you that I was able to control the calendar in a lot of ways. And so I would know when we would have afternoon games or night games or when we were going to what road trips I would go on. And I will not lie to you that I did pay attention to the school calendar, and I did not like being around when the kids were off from school because then they were just around all day. So I would be on the road often during those times. Do you identify, like, as a dad,

the adjective that you would put in front of you as a dad would be what? A great supporter, and not at all jealous of my kids' accomplishments. I'm actually happy for them, and I'm proud of them, but I would not in any way say that they were a priority. at all jealous of my kids accomplishments. I'm actually happy for them and I'm proud of them, but I would not in any way say that they were a priority. Their safety was and their security,

but not from a time standpoint. And this just actually manifested itself last night when I was speaking to my now 21 year old son who's a senior in college. And he really had nothing to say to me and I had nothing to say to him. And we had a very quick talk and sometimes we'll talk about movies or sports

but sort of surface-y stuff and I found out some things that he was doing that I wasn't aware of. And I had this moment like a second where I was like, man, that's so sad. And then I realized, well, wait a minute, I made this bed, I created this situation. I can't be in the least bit unhappy.

And then I went back and pressed play on the movie I was watching. And that was that. So you definitely, you make your bed when you're in business. You can't be a good father and a successful businessman. I don't agree that that's even possible. And some people claim they are, but they're likely mediocre at both, or they think they're just delusional

that they're great at both. And I made the choice to, I chose work over family every time and I didn't lie to them about it. I told them that that's what I was choosing. Don LeBattard. Oh, I like firing people. So I take the opportunity to fire whenever I possibly can

because I can use it as a learning experience for them and try to help them out and try to point out what they did wrong. But in this case, the employee was enough levels below where I was that I did not do the firing, but I had it done within moments of discovery. I'm just like, I like firing people. It's just absurd.

It's absurd. Stugats. I'm talking about people who I fire who deserve it, who have done something that actively requires me to fire them. It is my unadulterated pleasure to do so. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. This family dysfunction and regret is presented by LinkedIn jobs. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com slash prep terms and conditions.

I don't think I earn a whole lot of regret. You're saying flatly. I don't agree with the absolutism in that that you can't be a great businessman and a balanced human being who is present as a father. What David is saying is if he can't do it, no one can do it. I mean, that's absurd, David. Stu, I'm saying that I've come across a lot of people in business and they all say the same thing.

Those at the height of their success, something's gotta give. Why do you think the divorce rate is so high at the C-suite level? Why do you think that the family trauma and the therapy required is so significant at the C-suite level? Why do you think that the family trauma and the therapy required is so significant at the C-suite level? Because you make choices. It's very hard to do both. And I respect people who try and I witnessed it during the course of my career and I still do. And generally,

you end up being worse at both. And so I decided to go all in trying to be good at what I did for a living and make sure that they were supported. And to this day, I still feel that way. But at the end of the day, my job couldn't be to raise them. I tried to go to dance recitals and this is a funny thing that I did with my middle daughter at dance recitals, which were like 10 hours where I could hang out with Rondell White and Cliff Floyd, et cetera.

Hit the button, Chris. Look at me, Louis. And it was great. It was called Look at me, Louis. And it was great. It was called, It was called Meg Segretto. It's a place that used to be up in Broward and they're like dead serious.

These recitals are 10 hours and your kid dances for like four minutes of it. And so all I had to do was be in my seat for the four minutes, but for the rest of the time I would be in the lobby because I have no interest in watching other people's kids dance. It literally zero interest in that.

So I would do work during that time and then just appear for the four minutes that she danced. Imagine if everyone did it that way, David, when you get to do that, everyone else wants to watch all the other kids. I got to be honest. I did it that way with Emma. I did. You guys are jerks.

Now you get the schedule of dances. Chris, have you been to one of these? Yes, I was just that one Saturday. There are eight hours long. There's 24 dances each set. Okay, so you get the schedule. You see when you get your dancing. You're exaggerating all of that. No, I'm not. They hold your kid hostage. They don't let you take your kid either. You have to sit through all of it for some reason. It's not eight hours. No, it is. It's probably longer. Yes, I'm with David on this. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at LeBretard Show. Is your kid being held hostage? No, it's borderline illegal.

Like, I don't know how it is. There's situations. It's not borderline illegal. No, it is borderline illegal. There's situations here where, like, you drop your child off, and you're like, I will take my child now. And they're like, no, you will not. And it's like, excuse me, that's not how this works.

You can't just sequester my child. But they do, and then you give up the fight and then you go do whatever you're doing. So Emma's final dance would be like five dances before the last dance. You're right, Billy, and me and Abby would be like, hey, Emma, let's go. And they'd be like, no, Emma can't leave.

She has to stay till the end. Who says? I'm her parents, not you. I mean, what are you doing? It is so unbelievable, and it's everywhere. It's not just Florida where this happens. So I found a few workarounds. And one of the workarounds you can do

is that you tell your child, and we did this to our middle daughter, you have to feign sickness. And so what you do is when you're done with your dance and there's nothing left, you've had your last curtain call, I ain't sitting around and watching the other 11 year olds dance to some song I've never heard of. You go to backstage, you go to the door

and all of a sudden out comes the little girl and you teach her like rub the makeup down so you look like things look weird and then do some dry heaves, boom, you got her. This is an all timer for you, David. No. My mouth is on the floor right now. You give them some green makeup,

they're gonna put this a little bit on your cheeks here. People are gonna wonder, you look a little sick. You're teaching your child to lie about being sick so you don't have to sit through a recital. But I would tell her that that's what we're doing. I actually didn't mind teaching my kids the difference between a malicious lie, a white lie, or when you wanna mislead people,

or when you wanna get what you want, how to get what you want. And they're all successful kids right now, so that part of it worked. But I'll tell you, we weren't hurting anyone, Chris. They're backstage, they're not even watching the other people dance, they can't see them. So what is the purpose of being there?

The teachers don't want them there also. Like they are just as miserable as everyone else. Cause it's like, I now have to watch these kids for seven hours after a four minute performance, just because these are the rules that this company decided with. They'd be more than happy to have your kids get out of there. They don't want to babysit 15 kids all day. And by the way, you have to bring every kid flowers. And so they sell flowers in the lobby.

It's a racket. When you have to hug them, it's just the worst. You gotta bring your own flowers. Those, I'm with you on the flowers. You tell them they did a great job and like honestly I could dance better. No, but there's a guy who sets up shop at all these dance recitals. No, I know. Yeah, I don't buy those flowers. I get my, I bring my own flowers. Price gouging, I'm telling you. They overcharge for those for sure. Because once you get there, no damn, once you get there, if you don't have flowers, you are forced to buy flowers from this person. A guy who sets up shops? It's usually someone who works for the thing. It's like all one, money's going to one place. They pretend they don't, but you know they're in on it. Thanksgiving is a time of love and song and dance and community.

Will you listen to yourselves? It's a time for trades. Listen to yourself, it's a time for trades. Hot stove, literally. David Sampson, I asked you for an adjective Listen to yourself, it's a time for trades. Hot stove, literally. David Sampson, I asked you for an adjective to describe yourself as a father, and you gave me a whole mealy-mouthed discussion and description without giving me an adjective. Did you think you were a bad father? Adequate.

Because you weren't present, and you're saying you couldn't choose fatherhood over business. No, I'm just saying that my kids look back and say that, you know, it's funny, they always say this, and I think it comes from their therapist or whatever. Hey, I wish you had given it all up

and spent more time with us. I'm like, all right, enjoy, you know, 86F, right, on the flight to Wisconsin. I just don't buy any of that at all, but I love them and they like me fine when they need something. Okay, but you just, look, you just said, and I don't wanna argue with this about you,

but I don't wanna argue with you about this, but you said they're successful, and you're also talking about how it is that somebody, what? He's so detached from what Coach is that he thinks there's 86 rows. Uh. so detached from what coach is that he thinks there's 86 rows. He's never gotten out of this single digit row. That's you're wrong. International giant jumbo jets that are flying privately.

I was in row 86 on the way to the Philippines for survivor and I couldn't stand it. So I upgraded myself. It's on Air Philippines in 2013 and I upgraded myself on the plane and much to the chagrin of the fellow survivors, I didn't realize at the time, but they ended up holding that against me that I wasn't willing to sit in a middle seat surrounded by like babies for a 14 hour flight. You became the target. You have no people skills. I wonder why they kicked you off the island so quickly. You don't understand community.

You're about to go on a stranded island for 39 days like Jeff, I'd like to upgrade please. How much do I have to give you for a 10 out here for me and my tribe? You thought you were gonna win man. You lost on the plane ride over. You lost. He thinks he's smarter than everyone else and he lost the whole thing on the plane.

They hated him as soon as they landed. I was totally rested. I felt great. I was lying down the whole flight. Meanwhile, the rest of the people are sitting like this for 14 hours. All right, Sampson, I'm going to get your movie review in a second.

But Mike Ryan, did you finish the coffee table? I did. The most uncomfortable movie I've ever seen, by quite a distance. Just, yeah, it's incredible. I think it's a masterpiece, but also researching this movie comes with a trigger warning. So when I say it's the darkest, most uncomfortable thing

that you can imagine, also probably a dark comedy as well. You can view it through that prism, certainly. I've never really seen anything like it. It's shocking, it's provocative, it's brilliant. Yeah, I love the movie in retrospect, but it was tough to get through. And my wife checked out on it in the process. She couldn't make it through it.

You brought it up to me on Monday. You told me about it. I was scared just hearing about it, but people on social media were tweeting you saying they can't get through the movie, right? There's been a lot of people that have told me that they've tried to watch it and they bail on it or they research the Wikipedia and they bail on it.

I totally understand that. But I think, and I know David isn't a big horror guy, although I've come to find out that's more of your traditional slasher, terrifier type stuff. But I would venture to say, cause we've had this conversation a couple weeks ago, there's a real horror movie suspense thriller renaissance going on right now. And I think there's actual reasons for that. If you see what the big studios are green lighting, it's got to have intellectual

property. It's got to be big. They got to, they got to meet their margins on this. So you get these really, really resourceful filmmakers really pushing boundaries on smaller budgets. And for whatever reason, to me, the, the genre right now is getting the most original stuff out there is this genre I've seen like seven in the last few weeks and each one gets better than the previous one the substance was actually one of these and traditionally I was worried to tell David about that because, you know, it's kind of gory, visceral in certain instances, but it's also a bit of a comedy. So I put it on David's radar and he actually saw this.

What'd you think of this movie, The Substance? I thought The Substance was outstanding. I reviewed it on a recent Nothing Personal and let me give you a two minute review of that. It's not a horror movie. So I'm curious what genre. You're right, it's the jump horror and the slasher that I won't watch.

The substance, being gory, but that's not, the substance is about aging, and it's about our view of our looks, and Demi Moore basically not wanting to be old anymore, because there's a man who's in charge, Dennis Quaid, who says, you're too old to be on TV. So she says, hey, I'll be young again. And all of a sudden, out comes Margaret Qualley

in one of the great birthing scenes, this side of she's having a baby. It is a movie that is well worth watching and it's well worth watching with people in your life because it will lead to a good discussion about what you would do to continue to look young. I'd be curious if Sampson would like that kind of movie. Sampson loves stuff that makes him feel,

anything that makes him feel, but this uncomfortable? What would you describe as the most uncomfortable you've been watching a movie, David? I was uncomfortable watching seven. Were you? Yeah, that is probably my number one least comfortable watch because I'm generally scared anyway.

And I just was thinking about all the different ways that bad things can happen. And then the end of that movie, which is not a spoiler alert anymore, I don't believe. I don't know the rules on that. You're good there. It's in the box. When there's a head and a butt, you're just thinking, wow,

I don't want to watch this I was very uncomfortable. We'll say that seven is basically Space Jam compared to the coffee table. Is it really? Yeah. Get out of here. Yeah it's a darkest premise you can imagine. I'm telling you Mike told me about it because I don't watch a lot of stuff so I was like go ahead just give it to me and I it's the only movie I've never seen that I can't stop thinking about. So I don't even know what it's about Mike but I'm gonna watch it. Mike hasn't told us what it's the only movie I've never seen that I can't stop thinking about so I don't even know what it's about Mike But I'm gonna watch it Mike hasn't told us Mike hasn't told us what it's about and at least in part I haven't gone searching for it because I don't want to know I he told me and you don't want to know I mean

I'm serious Part of the experience is is the shock value to I didn't I knew that it was uncomfortable because I'd heard enough people talk About this, but every time they talked about it they didn't really give any plot lines to it and I really appreciated that because it definitely shocks you. Alright so this was the recommendation of Anthony Jezelnik on South Beach Sessions. He's a dark comedian and he thought it was a dark comedy. I wanted to ask you about what one of the Farrelly brothers is doing. It seems like the Coen brothers and the Farrelly brothers is doing.

It seems like the Coen brothers and the Farrelly brothers are not working together anymore. And what are the Farrelly brothers doing? Or what is, is it Peter? I think it's Peter that's working on this. He's doing, Stugatsch, your wheelhouse. He's doing something Rocky related. Ah, yes.

So it turns out that the big underdog story that surrounds Rocky was Sylvester Stallone getting this film made. And the script that he just picked up that he says is brilliant is the making of Rocky and Sylvester Stallone's insistence that he not only write, direct and star in this film. And the studio like Sylvester Stallone was acting

in soft core porn movies. He was basically on house debt this time. And the studio gives him all sorts of impossible deadlines and budgets because they don't want him to be the star of the film. They pegged another big Hollywood actor to be the star of the film and there are details like in that in the scene they get all the running scenes out in one day and Sylvester Stallone's essentially runs 18 miles in one day and he gets hospitalized. The

scene where he's punching the ribs, that was actually frozen meat. They didn't have time to defrost it. Sylvester Stallone breaks his hands and it's about persevering, making his life different, getting himself out of that spot while using this underdog as an avatar. The big underdog story is Sylvester Stallone. The guy who was going to play Rocky was Burt Reynolds. I mean, think about that. Imagine that. What a different movie. Burt Reynolds playing Rocky. So the making of Rocky is a better underdog story than Rocky?

I think there are a lot of movies, and David probably knows this, where I want to find out more about the making of the movie than watch the actual movie. Rocky is one of them. Michael Mann's Miami Vice is one of them. And Face Off when Nicolas Cage and John Travolta spent three days together in a cabin trying to get each other's movements and motions and way of being. That's a great movie.

David, what is your review for the week? I'm doing this and I have this rehearsed, so forgive me, I don't normally use notes. Hi Mike, this is David Sampson. I watched your show called The Man on the Inside. I watched it in one sitting, which doesn't make it like a regular television show, it makes it more like a movie as you stated. I felt something every single episode.

Putting together Ted Danson and the rest of that tremendous cast and a story that really touches home to an aging population, people trying to continue to find their relevance and their place as they become less relevant in the workforce and with their families. You managed to weave together a story that will enthrall people and capture people

from episode one to the finale, which I can't believe opens us up to the possibility of a season two. And if anybody is smart, which I assume all the streamers are given your track record, Mike, that show is going to be picked up and your creative juices are going to have to continue flowing. I have no way to give you this review directly because I would have liked to.

I asked Dan and Pablo if I could reach out to you and they both said absolutely not. You had no interest in hearing from me because for whatever reason you think we've met. That said, I have to give credit where credit is due and you are a singular talent in the ability to create, including directing the final episode, a show that will capture the hearts, minds, and imaginations of what I hope will be millions of people.

It's called the man on the inside. Well, thank you for those kind words. You should have said, Mike Schur, that you were directing it toward Mike Schur so that people would have understood what you were talking about. About halfway through, I was like, Oh, I know what you're doing. So, here's the back story on this.

David Sampson is legitimately bothered and hurt that Mike Schur will not interact with him. And Billy, do you have any thoughts here on how deserved it is that because Sampson's just saying why don't we just all get along you've never met me. I mean if Mike Schur doesn't want to talk to someone I don't know that it's your place to be giving out his number. I don't know how this works. Sampson keeps wanting me to pass along his praise. And so I do pass it along. But when he wants to talk to Mike sure Mike sure doesn't want to talk to him.

And then I relay that message back. What am I supposed to do? I've told Samson before he's an adult. I can't force him to talk to you and I'm not set with you Dan. I appreciate you trying. I just don't understand. I you know Mike sure if he wants to talk to Ariel Hawani or Billy Corbin or other people who before they met me had a problem with me and then they met me,

we spent time together and everything ended up being fine. Mike's just not willing to do that. And the fact is that I am in contact and know people who also know Mike and who like Mike and also like me. You'd think the transit of property, he'd give me at least a minute. And I understand he's busy, but I could talk art,

I could talk sports, I could talk finance, I could talk movies. I'm just interested in also complimenting people when they do great jobs. And Mike doesn't make anything bad. And I just want him to know it. And I thought we were all on the same team, but quite obviously he still doesn't feel that way.

But it doesn't stop me or in any way prejudice my review of his stuff because so many people do that that they use a personal issue in terms of a professional result. And I would never let that happen. You're trying too hard, David. Just let it happen. Like stop talking about wanting to talk to Mike meeting. But you're just starting.

I'm telling you, just let it happen naturally. Eventually, you'll meet him. It's all too hard to get. Yeah, I have a feeler just starting. I'm telling you, just let it happen naturally. Eventually you'll meet him, it's all up to him. Play hard to get. Yeah. I have a feeler out actually that I think I have a way in. Are you stalking? What does that mean? No, no, that's gross.

I do not stalk. If I could hyper. And I'm not desperate, I don't even want money from him. I don't even want a lot of time from him. I simply want a text response. Too much, yeah. You're not desperate, you don't stalk. Did you get those George Michael glasses

so you can put on the same glasses George Michael wore or what? I did get those, Billy. Did you get them? They have not arrived yet from England, but you just, you didn't ruin it, but I will do this show wearing the George Michael glasses. You were gonna wear them.

You were gonna unveil them in a week or two. Correct. It ruined your surprise. Yes, he did. Did you get the license plate? Yes, I did. You get everything. And I may have gotten one other thing, Billy.

I may have gotten Elton John sunglasses, maybe. What? Being a bad father was all worth it in the end. Thank you, David because you can buy the trinkets of famous people. It's okay that you were never around for the kids. It's okay that you're lonely late in life and Thanksgiving is something you hate and you make up trades in order to avoid. He's not lonely in his collection of sunglasses, Dan. At least at the very end, when you work toward the very end,

you have the trinkets of Elton John and George Michael to show. Ha ha ha ha ha. Set them around the Thanksgiving table. Hello, Elton. Provided that you're only there from 4.02 to 5.27. You've done it all right. And God forbid that somebody does an end zone celebration

Trump dance at a Thanksgiving dinner near you. I'm sure. Got the remote in hand. See you later. See you later, Samson. I don't know what to do about that. His podcast is nothing personal. He wants to talk to Mike Schur. I can only ask so many times.

Like, I can't. Mike Schur is being stubborn. Doesn't want to be friends with David. You're doing a thing, aren't you? That thing that you do where you divide people. No! No! Samson, keep the hose!

Samson keeps telling me, send him my regards regards and I have to force my regards over there and then sure as like I don't want to talk to him anymore. Like what do you want me to do? I've never said send regards. I've always had a purpose for the communication. Not like, hey, how's your day going? Try too hard.