The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: On Stugotz's Face

Episode Date: February 15, 2024

You will not believe what Dan asked our video department to do. After we take our chance to call out David Samson on his hypocrisy regarding the Travis Kelce-Andy Reid argument in comparison to his re...action to Bruce Arians hitting a player, he and Adnan Virk deliver their Top 5 Most Romantic Movies of All-Time. Then, how does management and coaching need to evolve in this age of professional athlete? Plus, comedian Sam Morril joins us to make his bid to be our New York Knicks correspondent as he praises "the great Isaiah Hartenstein" and rips Stephen A. Smith. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to DraftKings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. If you're interested in movies, if you're interested in sports business,
Starting point is 00:00:33 if you're interested in sports and baseball, these two guys have you covered. Cinephile is Adnan Verk's movie podcast, Nothing Personal is David Sampson's all-encompassing podcast. I recommend everyone listening here to check those out because they're doing it differently than most people are doing it. Before we get started here on what their top five lists are, though, Samson, I need to call you out on a hypocrisy and inconsistency that a lot of people have been calling you out on since yesterday
Starting point is 00:01:02 because you came on here yesterday regarding Travis Kelsey and this is what you had to say The consequences had to be because Travis Kelsey ends up in a situation where he bumps his coach Listen to David Samson on that subject matter and I would have benched him. I would have had I would have had him go for one sit again. Come on, come on. If a baseball player attacks a manager physically during a game, you don't think he's taken out of the game? I should have benched him for the game. What he did is inexcusable and no one talks about it
Starting point is 00:01:37 because no one wants to upset Taylor. It's a joke. You think that's the reason no one's talking about it that we're afraid of setting Taylor Swift? You're not talking about it because you don't want to be on the unpopular side of any issues like this. No, what do you mean? You don't realize that there's a team. You're afraid of big issues.
Starting point is 00:01:53 What if someone in your container attacked you, Dan? What if someone attacked you right now? You're not going to put them in the quote unquote real penalty box? Give me a break. He also called it unacceptable and he also said no excuse and this is why David, you get accused of being a management chill because here is some sound dug up by others and our video team of you talking about when Bruce Arians slapped one of his players in the back of the head during a game.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Don't put your hands on the players. I couldn't disagree with you more. We cannot legislate against coaching that involves some sort of- David, that was not coaching. That was not coaching, David. Don't tell me that what Bruce Arians did- In Bruce Arians mind, and he thinks it's coaching.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I'm with you, I agree with you. But Arians thinks he's coaching. Get out of here. He thinks it is though. Okay, but I don't care what he thinks. Right. That's not the only thing that you should care about. Intent.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Don't touch the players. Like you can coach them. Don't do it angrily. How about that? Don't do it angrily. You're right. We're dealing into something that may have something to do with somebody's past, and we're
Starting point is 00:03:01 digging deep into psychological territory here. But your reaction to this is so emotional and personal That there's got to be because you're an executive in charge and it bothers me that you guys think it's okay to manhandle the employees It bothers me. Oh, that's what we that's what Bruce did. You're right. I'm wrong. He manhandled them. You're right David that's what that was he hit him. I may have seen the wrong video David I must have seen the wrong video. David. I must have seen the wrong video. He hit him in the back of the head, David. Hit him.
Starting point is 00:03:28 You stop using, especially on a show that's audio, you're using verbs that people will associate with something that is not actually real. He didn't manhandle. He didn't hit. He didn't abuse. There are serious things that go on with players and with kids. Let's not for a minute say that what Bruce Arians did goes to that level. So David, should Kelsey just have slapped Andy Reid in the back of the head?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Wow. Arians, the slap on the helmet in the middle of a football game, if you can't distinguish that from what Kelsey physically did to Reid, why didn't you put the video up of both of these circumstances? Right, right. Just the right issues. We got to pay for them. Oh, sorry. Fair point.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Football is aggressive about that basketball. That's the end of that. But wait a minute. No, but this is your prism, David, and it's consistent. The angry old man can do what he wants. The angry young man cannot because one's an employee and the other one's in charge.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah, this is not a management player issue for me. This is looking at what you're doing for your entire team. When a player does that is so out of line, the coach and the front office has to do something even if it's the star first ballad hall of famer. Totally distinguishable from what happened with Arians and that slap on the helmet David what Arians did it had more physical contact in it than what Travis did if you think that that player was in as great physical harm and and scared
Starting point is 00:05:00 then go show oh you don't have the video David we just look at it scared then what? He wheeled on him on the back of the head. He hit him in the back of the head. Go show, oh you don't have the video. David, we just looked at it. Jessica, you're looking at the video right now. What did Aryans do to the back of that player's head? I'll come do it to Stugats. He lunged his forward and smacks the guy in the back of the helmet.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I like it to see it done to Stugats. We're gonna do a recreation here. Camera people, just come on Stugats' face. Whoops, bad phrasing. Oh's face. What? Bad phrasing. Oh, geez. What happened there? Here we go. We're going to recreate this. We're going to recreate this.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Just softer, please. Not softer. Just stare straight ahead. I think she's embarrassed, is what you just said. I think she is. She is now physically dead. You ruined it, Dan. I'm sorry. That's what I do. All right, here we go. Are you ready my face. You ruined it, Dan. I'm sorry. That's what I do. All right, here we go. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Are you ready? Gentle. And she led up there. Yeah. She didn't go full force. Cody's right. She didn't do it. Arians whacked somebody in the back of the head
Starting point is 00:05:55 and you're okay with it, David, because it's management. Wait, can we show it on the iPad or not? No, not really. No, we've got a rights issue. What if that player did the same exact thing to Arians? I believe that that player would have been benched if not released but for being a first ballot Hall of Famer Adnan, do you have any thoughts here before we get into the top five? No, I'm just I'm an outrage. That's all I am. Just the fact that the NFL is it's not allowing us to show these rights
Starting point is 00:06:20 That's really my main concern, but I can't wait to get to the movies I'm sure David's list stinks, just like his opinion on Travis Kalzai being benched. Boy, that was so added to Bad Men. Thank you for joining the conversation. Number five, what is the list that we're doing? What is the list that we're doing? I thought we were doing this on Valentine's Day on a day when we could have some sort of love in the air. So, Adnan and I wanted to do the top five most romantic movies ever. Wow. All right, that's gonna be an impressive list.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Wow. Let's see if we can. Number five, Serino. Serino's a movie starring Pete Dinklage from a couple of years ago. Obviously the story of Serino de Bergerac. And it was a movie that if it didn't put a huge hole in your heart of love, then you have no heart.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I prefer Roxanne, because that's where Steve Martin had oversized snout rather than it being a little person as the Malady. But I do like Dinklage, he's fine, sorry. Did you ever see the original with the Jarabh Depalde? That one's better. Except he's canceled, so I can't put that on the list. They canceled Jarabh Depalde.
Starting point is 00:07:24 What do you mean? You gotta accuse them of a lot of bad things. He's canceled, so I can't put that on the list. They canceled the... What do you mean? What do you mean? Oh yes. The French love him. He's canceled except for in France. So are you... I think he's canceled especially in France. Are you saying that that movie was better but is not on your list because he was canceled?
Starting point is 00:07:37 No, I like Sir No Better, but I wouldn't put a Gerard Depardieu. That would be like me telling you I would put lethal weapon on a list. I'm principle alone, I won't put it on any list now because of Mel Gibson. I didn't realize that your lists were contaminated by cancellations I didn't realize that my list is contaminated by personal cancellations. Okay, so you're in your personal record book This is your top five people who have been canceled Number four number four is Exactly right. Number four.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Number four is one of my all-time favorite movies directed by Richard Link later called Before Sunrise with Julie Delphi and Ethan Hawking. This is about people who meet on a train and spend an entire night together, and I have tried to recreate that night in various places around the world, and I've been successful several times, and it is, it just goes see it. It's a trilogy, but start with Before Sunrise. David Sampson, you'll never be Ethan Hawke. Okay, so go ahead and replicate whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I prefer Before Sunset and the trilogy is amazing. Linklater's a great director. I really can't quibble with this choice. It's a good one. Wow. You're quibbling with the fact that I've ever had that experience and then I promise I'll have.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah, that's right. I just don't think you can replicate that. I don'tibbling with the fact that I've ever had that experience at an end. I promise I'll have. Yeah, that's right. I just don't think you can replicate that. I don't think you have the magnetism of Ethan Hawke to replicate that. Don't even bother. Yeah, maybe you should get to know me better. Number three. What does that mean? Broke back mountain.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Are you suggesting that you could have a romantic night like that that would disprove at Nan Verk if he simply saw your romantic moves. 1000%. Oh god.
Starting point is 00:09:08 How you got game? Okay. If you speak to people. Play it. We don't have to read this. Let's not do this. Number three. If I speak to people.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Let's interview all the people that Dave has made swoon with his. All the paramores of Samson's life. I look forward to discussing that with them. I need to speak to my lawyer first, but once I do, I am more than happy to give you a top five list of that. Do you ever speak to anyone without speaking to your attorney first?
Starting point is 00:09:36 No, my mom didn't raise no fool. Number three, Brokeback Mountain. Brokeback Mountain. If you can't get through the fact that it is one of the most romantic movies of the relationship between Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal, it came at a time directed by Aang Lee where it was not as acceptable as it is now, and it should have been, and it should be, and it always should be, but their relationship is one of the best on-screen relationships in history. Number two. Battle Ranchers. Gay. Number two. Relationship is one of the best on-screen relationships in history number battle ranchers gay
Starting point is 00:10:06 Number two Only one of them was oh, no they both were and half the way was and were you if we were consulting with your attorney number two I Didn't say that you did not say that I know you didn't because you didn't Number two hold on we have to cut that out. I've I don't because you didn't get soap with your attorney. I have no idea what you're even talking about. Number two. Hold on. We have to cut that out. I don't know what you mean, Dan. Number two, Moulin Rouge. The greatest thing about life is love.
Starting point is 00:10:36 It always has been for me. You and McGregor and Nicole Kidman to lose the trek. And nothing more to say about that. And the number one most romantic movie and there will never be a different number one is the notebook. Oh, jeez. I'm so terrible.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I've rewatched it time and time again. It is waterworks every time. I want to be the relationship that Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams had and I wanted to die like James Garner and Gina Rowlands holding hands in a nursing home. And I absolutely failed miserably at that goal. But that was something that I aspire to.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And that is the type of love that everyone should want. The only thing we have in common, I said, did want to die while watching that movie. 54% rotten tomatoes, absolutely terrible. I mean, that is the height of modeling and overly sentimental. I mean, is the height of modeling and overly sentimental I mean water works. I suppose since you're soft Samson, but honestly, I'd really watch stu gotz is only fans page Then watch the notebook
Starting point is 00:11:33 Thank you. I have no response to that. Just make sure you pay him his money Adnan your top five looks how different Mines is good Dan number five is four weddings in a funeral. ["Dirty Dancing"] Hugh Grant is most charming and foppish and romantic. F word for the first 10 words, the movie, really funny, really charming. Number four, nobody puts baby in a corner, dirty dancing.
Starting point is 00:11:55 ["Dirty Dancing"] Again, iconic, swooning romance. There's no way Samson doesn't love dirty dancing. That's why I know he's staying quiet Number three another one of his favorites and everyone's favorite quite frankly Billy Crystal Meg Ryan I'll have what she's having when Harry Met Sally Number two Casablanca will always have And no and number one listen, I'm serious about this one. This is the number one shares all kidding aside
Starting point is 00:12:23 You can't get it me better than a guy who's in love with a hooker pretty woman No, Rocky, huh? I believe we have lost again Lucy and Jessica because you guys insist on choosing movies from 50 and 60 and 70 years ago My movies are current there. Are you telling me that Lucy Jessica? Haven't seen all five of my movies? I don't I haven't seen all five of my movies? No, I haven't seen. I think I've seen one of them. Which one? I've seen the notebook.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I love, oh. I can't get past Adnan having a movie podcast and not knowing what Gerard Depper do's been up to the last 10 years, because like it's pretty bad. It's not that I don't know what it's, Jess, Jess, Jess, it's not that I know what it's up to. I separate the art from the artist, okay? I'm not gonna condemn him like Samson. I'm not like Samson on a pulpit here
Starting point is 00:13:08 Exploriating everybody for their sins that's perfectly fine. He's willing to do so I was just informed. There's a lot of sins. I'm bad bad, dude About true lies true lies Jimmy Lee Curtis. Thank you All I'm saying is that I need the movies to be somewhat fresher because you guys are talking and I'm listening and I like your movies, I like your choices, I like the historical context, I like how thorough you are. And I'm looking at the 20 somethings in our room
Starting point is 00:13:37 and they don't have any idea what you're talking about. Cyrano is from two years ago. Let's say by that logic, Samson wins because Cyrano was two years ago. Yeah, I've seen logic, Samson wins because Zirino was two years ago. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen one Harry Metz Alley. Nice, what do you got Lucy? Hmm, David you see?
Starting point is 00:13:51 Lucy, how great is one Harry Metz Alley? I like it a lot, I think it's a cute movie. Hey, exactly, that's what I'm looking for. One of the romantic moments I had is when I took someone to Katz's Deli to try to sit at the table where it happened. And it just happens to be that it's right. I have a there's a picture of me on the wall of Katz's Deli,
Starting point is 00:14:11 and I was not aware of it. And it was right there. And we were sitting there. That is the number one look at me, Louie. I can give you. And I got to tell you, it had the opposite effect that I thought it would have. Could have told you that if you're ever at the West and Bonaventure in Washington, DC,
Starting point is 00:14:27 head to the elevators and you'll see a plaque that honors the scene in True Lies where Arnold rode that elevator with a horse. Thank you. So David, you were going for a serenal moment at Katz's Deli, you pointed to your picture on the wall. No, the waiter pointed it out to who I was with. And? And I demured. I just said, oh, I didn't know it was there because I'd heard about it, but I'd
Starting point is 00:14:51 never seen it. But the whole thing was looked at as a setup. And it was not. It was all over pastrami. Put it on the poll, please, Juju. At LeBatard Showed. Are you surprised at all that David Samson's love interest would distrust him and think him in scam over pastrami at LeBatard Show? Thank you, guys. Thank you. Point break. Hey, it's Mike Ryan. Recently got back from Las Vegas, Nevada. Was there with some good friends, some co-workers, and it was a good time. A good time had by all. But it was made better thanks to Miller Time.
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Starting point is 00:16:16 David Samson, weirdo. Because he was not, he was not the fun substitute teacher who wheeled out a TV and play a VHS tape or Armageddon in science class. He was the weird one who would eat an egg salad sandwich while clipping his toenails into the trash can and ranting about Ronald Reagan. Stugats. The guy kept talking about how his ass was smooth, smoother than a newborn's cheek. He wouldn't stop bragging about his bare buttocks to me.
Starting point is 00:16:44 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugots. ["Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy"] Now we stumble into a lot of things in this show, but I don't think we've ever done better than Dan in the last segment. Camera people, just come on Stugots' face. Whoops, bad phrasing. Oh, geez. I mean
Starting point is 00:17:06 Dan bravo to you. I mean usually like there's like a what did he mean by that? Oh that was kind of that was just. Yeah usually we're like ha ha phrasing. Yeah it was lack some subtlety and if you weren't watching on video Jessica was coming in here I denied us the moment of, of Stugatz being slapped hard on the back of the head. He's on a second phrasing again? Yep. Walking in here. Camera people, just come on Stugatz's face.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Whoops. You should have used ejaculate. All right, Jason, let's go. No? So Jessica comes in here to slap Stugatz on the side of the head and instead ends up corpse-like on the floor in the dead position. I don't think video caught that because they were too busy coming on Stugatz's face. Was my Bruce Aryans alright though? Like I tried to not actually hit him very hard. You were fine.
Starting point is 00:18:01 You had to hit him hard. I think he was ready to let you have it. I don't want to really smack him that hard. I was bracing myself for something bigger, but it was fun I sabotaged everything by killing her before it started. I appreciate it The Bruce Arians thing was clearly worse than what Travis Kelsey did because the Kelsey thing is just like a bump in the heat of a moment Like Arians goes out of his way Lunges winds up and it's just it's way worse No, I think it would go a long way for David
Starting point is 00:18:26 in terms of the general likeability things that we run into with him to just say, you got me. Yeah. Yeah, no, that is good work by you and your team. He's not gonna do it like that. That is a hypocrisy. You caught me.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Not happening. I just don't think he's capable of looking at it through anything other than his prism on he was management and sports and management has to be in control it's a plague in sports and it actually separates a management from the generation that is playing sports the fact that so many of them look at it the way that David does we have to be in charge and we have to show people at all times were in charge presently why
Starting point is 00:19:01 that the greatest coach of all time is without a job. How about that one? I think we sort of skip past the fact that the Atlanta Falcons in the last 12 months have said no to the MVP of the league and the best coach ever. Don't need them. I don't even know necessarily if we can make it entirely an age or generation thing because of what we talked about a little bit last week on the show with Kyle Shanahan videoing his staff when he's not in meetings with them and essentially spying on them
Starting point is 00:19:27 while they're in position group meetings. And his explanation, we talked about it on God bless football, Stu, with you and Kailin Kaler from the athletic. And Billy, and his explanation is like, he wants to make sure they're getting everything right and the messaging is all cohesive and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:19:41 But from my point of view, I wouldn't want video cameras in every room that I'm in if I'm working for someone, I'd like to have at least a little bit of part, wait are these cameras on? While video was just coming on Stugatz's face. You told me these were a prop. This is interesting to me Stugatz,
Starting point is 00:20:00 it really is in terms of philosophically where it is we're headed with leadership, especially in our most militaristic sport. Bill Belichick is out of work. Jay Glazer has been telling you for months now the philosophies in football have changed. The coaches realize that they have to keep evolving to reach their young players who are built differently. Tom Brady just said, you guys saw the quotes for the first time, not even the 10-part documentary
Starting point is 00:20:26 on Apple did this. Tom Brady is saying, I wouldn't have played for that style anymore. I learned my power. Not one more year. Not one more year would I have played for Belichick the way that he was doing things. And the way the sport has evolved,
Starting point is 00:20:40 Stugatz Bruce Arians won a championship with Brady, being close to 70 years old slapping players on the head right and you cannot have the power that Travis Kelsey Presently has and keep him confined to the cage of he's always got to listen to coach with no mess missteps There always has to be authority the relationship has to be broader than that. It cannot be parent ordering child around anymore. The players have too much power for that. So they're going to bump up against it in heated moment and it's going to result in a lot of times either management like crafts supports the Belichick Patriot way or football grows out of it because today's players do gots realizes. Patrick Mahomes
Starting point is 00:21:27 knows, do you realize that when I go to the camera and say it's not okay anymore for the Black player to be held down, Roger Gadel's going to immediately apologize for all things Kaepernick related because that's what happens when the employees have power. Brady said that though, Dan, about Belichick after winning six Super Bowls with Belichick. A lot easier to say, if you're an organization that hasn't won in a long time and you feel like you're on the verge of winning
Starting point is 00:21:56 and you don't want Bill Belichick because he's gonna work you too hard, please. I don't wanna hear from you, I really don't. Okay, but he's being paid $375 million by Fox. More than Mahomes will make for playing the games because people do want to hear from him. And that's what he's going to say now that he's free from the military prison system
Starting point is 00:22:17 that he's played in that produced some winning, but then he left and it wasn't like that. And he won also not playing that way. It's not the only way to win, Stu. But I understand. No, it's not for sure. It's not, but I understand saying that after absorbing Bill Belichick for as long as Tom Brady did.
Starting point is 00:22:33 If you're Justin Herbert, you don't want Bill Belichick. I don't want Justin Herbert. How about that? My point is that Brady went elsewhere and won and the next generation that arrives behind Brady? For players coach Bruce Arians. Players coach Bruce Arians who slaps players in the head, but was viewed as more of a players coach than Belichick was.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah, but he's also like a disciplinarian. I mean, I went through years sharing my opinions on Bruce Arians. There was a reason why it took so long for him to get a job. But that part has aged out. The sport has aged out. And now what you get is the youngsters
Starting point is 00:23:09 who are spying on their coaches in the video room because they learned from the culture. I mean, Shanahan comes. How about you learn the rules? Stugots. It never gets old. It's never going to get old. It's never going to get old.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Might not even be true, but. Wear that one. He's going to have to wear it. I mean not even be true, but... Wear that one. He's gonna have to wear it. I mean, what's true is the players didn't know. Kyle Shanahan descends from someone like Belichick and Arians and learned how to do it a different way. And so he will connect with his players differently while surveilling his coaches in their meeting rooms because it's not like you're gonna lose all of this paranoia and all of this crazy,
Starting point is 00:23:46 they're just gonna adapt to handle it better as the employees become more unruly because they have actual power in a sport that doesn't allow them to have power, because they're disposable and it's salary capped and it makes it very hard for a player, especially Stugaz, a tight end like Kelsey, to have the power to bump a coach and survive
Starting point is 00:24:05 it, to bump a coach and go on the number one podcast in American shape. Ha ha ha, me and my drunk brother, I bumped the coach. Ha ha ha. He's also never really been like that. Travis Kelsey has been intense, but not in that fashion. I wonder what's happening there. And what I landed on was it was just a much tougher year. Everything. For Travis. And I what I landed on was it was just a much tougher year everything that that for Travis
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah, well for everybody on that Kansas City offense It's the first real frustration legitimate frustration that played out on the field because look man They got lit up by Aiden O'Connell didn't have a passing yard in the second half Do you guys at all find this this generational because Jessica's saying it's not generational, but it feels to me like Belichick 70 and he's dealing with the players who won the Super Bowl for the Chiefs are in their 20s I mean Kelsey too, but the defensive players who won the Super Bowl for the Chiefs That's unfair though because the the oldest coach in the league was Pete Carroll and he didn't have the same reputation
Starting point is 00:25:02 There's a lot going on with Belichick, military background, whatnot. But Carol was always viewed as super different from the, from the parcels is the, players, but, but it's the generational point that you're making. It's approach. I mean, Andy Reed is 65 years old. He has a different style than Bill Belichick for certain.
Starting point is 00:25:22 He allows players to do that. Yeah. He was older guy, but was always viewed as a player's coach guy. I love that Andy Reed was looking out for Travis Kelsey. It speaks to their relationship, saying, hey, there's a lot of cameras on me all the time. It's the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:25:34 What are you doing? Stop doing it. I just find most interesting in the employee-employer relationship that the employer is being forced to be more human about the frailties of the employee. Like it's best to cover it the way Andy Reed does to do it with love, but you better have a real relationship. It's not gonna make you survive the Seattle organization if you're Pete Carroll. He had real
Starting point is 00:25:59 relationships with them and he's now run out of that building. He had real relationship. Six year old coach. Right. But Andy Reed is winning. I mean, every year, my set, my, what I'm telling you is yes, Andy Reed is winning. So was Belichick. And now he can't get a job. Because you better be able to deal with Kelsey's power.
Starting point is 00:26:21 But he went three years without winning. Yeah. The winning stopped. Yeah. That's what, that's what it needs. Yes, the winning has to be there. The Dan Lebatard show with Stu Gott is sponsored by Better Help. Imagine a person who values their relationships with someone deeply.
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Starting point is 00:27:36 But I'm telling you, if you look, we can play a game right now. The lips look the same on fight you and failure. Watch my lips. Let me turn off my mic. No, I just, yeah. I like this too. I like this too. I like this. No, I just. I just. I just. I like this. I like this. I like this.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I like this. I like this. I like this. I like this too. And I want you guys to tell me if I'm saying fight you. Yeah, yeah. Or failure.
Starting point is 00:27:52 OK. Yeah, yeah. Stugatz. Why are your ideas always so bad for the podcast? It's so. Medium. Medium. It's way.
Starting point is 00:27:59 It's great. It's a. Carat. Carat. You have now. You have now. You have now. You have now.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Just that. I'm just. Just that. Just that. Just that. Here we go. Do it again. No. Fight you. Fight you.. He's just that out loud. Just listen to the audio. Here we go, do it again. No.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Fight you. Fight you. That was fight. Alright, maybe you can't tell. Oh my God! We got to the bottom of it! This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. I love that he's joining us this way.
Starting point is 00:28:20 This is Comedy Central right here. He is joining us from the road. Look at him from his hotel room Joining us from on tour. I think in Oklahoma City. He's got shows coming up in Irvine, California Salt Lake City Boston. What a great shirt captain clutch. Yes He wants to well he wants to talk about the Knicks He's auditioning to become our Knicks correspondence to God's because all the comedians, this is the best Knicks season we've seen in 25 years. Jesus wants to be our Knicks correspondent. Maro wants to be our Knicks correspondent.
Starting point is 00:28:52 He's got a Netflix special coming, or it's out now. Same time tomorrow and Sam Morell is with us now to talk Knicks basketball and other things. Our timing is bad though Sam because this is the worst stretch the Knicks have gone through this season. They've lost four in a row. Everyone's hurts. We're depleted by injuries and, you know, it's a tough time because we just got to get healthy. We're so deep all of a sudden. The quickly trade made us a little thin, you know, but we got OG, then he gets hurt. Berks and Bohan, I think that's going to help a lot once we're
Starting point is 00:29:26 once we're all healthy, but we don't have a big man. We don't have Hardenstein, Mitchell, you know, Sims is in and out. He's like him getting COVID. I'm like, are you kidding me? COVID, you know, so it's been tough. But and then the refs Ed Malloy's team stole a game from us the other night and just despicable should never be allowed to ref a next game again. I mean, I don't I don't want it. I don't want to say the words Guantanamo Bay, but they come to mind. You know, torture, torture is what I want to play for you our famous Ed Malloy sound. This is him. This this is how you felt the other night against Houston Here's Ed Malloy ruining a Timberwolves game down by two a hundred and ninety eight inbound to love on the left side With one jubilant was up for the shot. It's blocked by Marion the ball comes into the arms of Dalla bear
Starting point is 00:30:17 The horn sounds and the ball game is over The Timberwolves are screaming for a foul. There was none called. Rubio off to love. Oh, that's a foul! That is unbelievable. Referees are booed as they go off the floor. Brutal! David Guthrie is right there. He didn't have the guts to call it also. Go Ed Malloy! That's how you felt the other night against the Rock. We hate him. He cost us, I believe it was his team that cost us the home opener against the Celtics. Go Ed Malloy!
Starting point is 00:31:00 Criminal. He's a criminal. We despise him. We will remind him of this whenever we see him His team the fact that they can't just I want a five minute overtime you come to come to the garden We'll come to Houston we want five minutes But the fact that we had all the momentum and they just stole that from us just despicable Do the right thing and boy did that take me back Samallenbear, also an ex-nick right there. But yeah, man, just not right, especially when, like, OK, if we're going to lose this game, then let us rest Brunson and Divin Chenzo, who've been playing 92 minutes
Starting point is 00:31:36 tonight. You know, Tim's is killing our guys, because we're thin right now. So it's not right. Not right. That's what Timberdome does, though. That's what Thibode does though. That's all Thibs does. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Kills his teeth. He's going to run you all into the ground. You too are going to feel like you've played 82 regular season games before Thibode has done with you. It's true. I tore my Achilles watching. But you know, no, I mean, look, I don't think it's going to be quite as bad once we have like a legit eight, nine guy rotation for the playoffs, because we are all of a sudden kind of deep, the Bogdanovich off the bench move is like,
Starting point is 00:32:11 man, I hate to lose grimes, but I think it's a nice, it's a nice move. Precious is looking great, by the way. OG, when he's healthy is a game changer. I'm like, I will put us against the Celtics, dude. I will do it. Mike Ryan, are you hearing him? He's filled with Nick's hope.
Starting point is 00:32:27 He's putting them against the Celtics. I'm not saying we're gonna win, but I say we can give him a good fight. That's nice of you. You'll put him against them. No, I had PTSD when he said precious because he's precious, a Chua who was a part of the Gorondragic trade to Toronto that got us Cal Lowry who I hate with a passion
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah, but he's playing great. I think what you're saying is you'll take on the Celtics with OG though, right? Oh, we need OG because I think OG can make Tatum's life pretty bad and You know We're deep. I mean we don't do we don't have like six of our eight rotation players What do you expect? We don't have Randall. We don't have Mitchell. We don't have Hardenstein. We don't have OG who is like turned into a legit. Like he's, he's a legit DPOY candidate the way he's playing. If he's healthy.
Starting point is 00:33:14 You love Hardenstein and I think the, uh, and I think basketball people do, but a lot of people would laugh at the idea that he's the difference maker against the Celtics. Little things, Dana. He is. Yeah. He is. He is. Because matchups are everything. And as much as I love Mitchell Robinson, I think the KP matchup is a little difficult.
Starting point is 00:33:32 So, you know, much love to KP, another former Nick, who I think we wish things ended differently, obviously. But I think Hardenstein defensively, like if you watch basketball, like that's why I know Stephen A. Smith doesn't watch basketball When he goes some guy named Hardenstein shut up Stephen A watch an actual game before you discredit The blue collar work ethic of the great Isaiah Hardenstein who has been the glue this year And I only hope we can find the money to resign him You really don't like Stephen A Smith's Nick's analysis. Do you he's a curse to the franchise stop rooting for us?
Starting point is 00:34:07 I don't want you on our side you have any time he calls a game we lose go away. I Like that you called out Stephen A when Dan was like I have Hartenstein some guy named Hartenstein That pissed me off that really pissed me off take out Levitor, man No, but I'm I prefaced it by saying I know how much he loves Hardenstein and I know that America is laughing at the idea that that would be the difference against the Celtics. I'm not even sure that you would dispute that that would be America's appraisal,
Starting point is 00:34:35 not necessarily basketball people's appraisal. Well, maybe America's gotta get on the Hardenstein page like I am because this guy's doing all the dirty work. I love this guy, Tiff's reinvented his game. He was like a stretch five on the Clippers. He comes here. He becomes like a badass. You know, I'm just worried he's sitting out now with like a sore Achilles.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And I'm like, what the hell is that? I don't know what a sore Achilles is. That scares the hell out of me. So rest till you're 100, you know. Let's let's play this sound to agitate Sam Morrell. I respectfully disagree. And we all know how I feel about my Knicks, but the 26th in defensive efficiency rating,
Starting point is 00:35:12 Mitchell Robson is out, Jericho Sims is out, so I got to deal with some dude named Hart and Steve. Who's been playing with you? Everett. Everett, Stephen A. He never gives you, he never shortchanges you with effort I'm not trying to be disrespectful yeah you are disrespectful some guy this dudes an
Starting point is 00:35:33 NBA player so I have to listen to some guy named Stephen A Smith who doesn't know what the f**k he's talking about and holy shit like how could ESPN get any worse like I'm just like dude replace him with like RJ or JJ or someone who knows what they're talking about. And thank God for Kendrick Perkins who's becoming, you know, a surprising ally to Nick's Twitter and Nick's fan base. I never thought I'd find the day
Starting point is 00:35:56 where I love Kendrick Perkins, but this guy finally gives us props. No, TNT, I love those guys, but they won't give the Nick's props. They won't give Jaylin Brunson props. Like, you know, I don't know what Kenny Smith has against New York being a New York guy But like get over it dude. We're here. We're no one wants us in the playoffs. We just got to get healthy Correct me if I'm wrong. This is the next team that you've believed in the most
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah, and exactly and look the four seed Randall year was a pleasant surprise. I always believe so that is a sickness and it can be a curse, but it also keeps me positive about the Knicks. And I love that team with Randall. I mean, how far are you really going to go? It wasn't a great offensive team, but man, they played good D. And that kind of rebuilt their identity to what it is today. And if we're healthy, do you really want to play against Mitchell Robinson, Hardenstein, that combo? Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Ogyon and Oby. Like the worst possible way. Yes. Yeah, you think Celtics man? Yes, all the... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:37:03 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, You're team A. Look, I'll do respect to the Miami Heat. You guys are washed. Oh, Jimmy's incredible. Jimmy's an incredible player. Bams an incredible player. Duncan Robinson's actually my buddy and I was at one of the games against the Heat. You can high five him when he eliminates you in five.
Starting point is 00:37:18 But you'll shoot confetti off of that one win. All this to lose a high made one. We went, we were two wins against you guys injured we're gonna cook you guys this year we should have won we should have won that series you're right you cute thank you by the way on the headboard you're cute are those straps yeah you got a little Zadino chara situation going over there. It's a nice hotel. What do you want from me? Sam, any Super Bowl thoughts?
Starting point is 00:37:52 If you want to keep talking about the Knicks, we certainly can, because I want to have you on as a correspondent because we're going to heat up all this heat Knicks stuff with the comedians, because there are a lot of... New York gets loud when they're good, and they haven't had a lot of reasons over the last 15 or 20 years. Yeah yeah look we all saw that Nick's viral Twitter thing when we beat the Celtics the hot fornier game from a
Starting point is 00:38:15 couple years ago I was at that game that was magical but it's tough when that's all you have to cheer about but hey we'll get behind anything we're fired up fan base so yeah I've thought in the Super Bowl look I wanted the Niners to win just because I thought the Purdy story was kind of cool but the Chiefs are incredible my homes is unbelievable you know the Kelsey push was a little I mean you're not supposed to push a geriatric in my opinion I don't think that's very classy to push a guy who's Overweight and old you don't you don't do that. You know and when you're a superhero athlete, it's kind of shitty But you know Sam Sam if Andy Reed had fallen down and had difficulty getting up it'd be a much bigger controversy
Starting point is 00:38:59 It'd be a life alert commercial Are you kidding me? It was terrible. Yeah, I mean, no, it was a bad move. I also crack up at the people who were like obsessed with the Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift, that them together are some sort of, you know, spy for Joe Biden to get him elected. To those people, I say, well, then maybe you need to orchestrate your own Republican spies to battle them with your celebrities. Maybe get Kanye to date Caitlyn Jenner. They could team up. Something like that, I don't know. But it's an absurd, it's insane. Look, they're both famous people. She's a beautiful, famous pop star and he's a handsome football player. Like, what do you expect?
Starting point is 00:39:44 Jared Ranere Same time tomorrow is the Netflix special. You should check it out because he's one of the funniest men doing it. You can get tickets for Irvine Salt Lake City Boston at Sam Morel dot com. Anything else we need to promo for you we appreciate your time and we're gonna wear you out as Nick's correspondent. Gonna be a hit in Boston. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Boston they know, they know what's up. They know I love the Knicks, but look, Boston, I'm taping there for a reason. Some of the best comedy crowds in the country. So I love the Wilbur, so I'm taping my next special for Amazon there. So that's gonna be a fun couple nights. Love Boston people.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Don't like their sports teams. How many shirts like that do you have? How much Knicks paraphernalia do you have? Too much. Yeah. Too much, dude. It's not good. It's not healthy how much of the shit I have.
Starting point is 00:40:30 But look, you can even see it, the brunson face. Yeah, that's right. Does your significant other or other loved ones mock how much you love the NYX and how much teenage gear you have that you're an overgrown adolescent wearing so much Knicks stuff? I mean, would you mock John Starks Jersey from when I was 11 years old? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I think it's pretty cool actually, Dan. Thanks for asking. But I think my Knicks merch is pretty cool. The last time you wore it. You have a 27-year-old t-shirt in your collection. I have so much old Nick stuff. Yeah, I kept all of it, man. I got old Starks. I got, geez, I gave away my Larry Johnson jersey to a friend. I shouldn't have done it. It was, it was a, I'm too generous. What else? I have, yeah, I've had a ton of, my brother's got Ewing, the old E you in the old you in the you know we got we shared a Mason RIP the great Anthony Mason and then I got a spree well so Randall was
Starting point is 00:41:31 my first Nick's jersey in 20 years I think because you know there was there wasn't a guy I wanted to get behind but that four seed year was pretty unique and I mean I don't really wear jerseys it was more just like I just got to support the team you know. Do you know how much it's going to hurt when the heat eliminate you and you're wearing a Randall jersey? Uh I just told you I don't really wear jerseys so already your prediction doesn't make any sense. Well yeah but you said you said you had a rant you said you had something random related. I don't wear it I wear cool graphic teas made by this guy. I think a Bakker back pages that's who makes these he's great He makes crazy cool ones. I got a Villanova good like good villas like good fellas
Starting point is 00:42:13 But good villas get the Villanova guys if if the Knicks are a three-seed You tell me that this guy's not gonna be where figure out how to wear Randall gear and it's gonna hurt extra when they lose in the second round It's gonna hurt because it hurts because we're never good, but he just said he doesn't play in the jersey. He just buys the jersey, that's it. I believe that New York's about to get very loud because they believe in this team
Starting point is 00:42:34 and they don't learn anything about their past. You know how dangerous it is to believe in this team. You know the Cubs had a drought too and that ended. So I think droughts end. And I think this team, something about Brunson just makes me believe, man. We got a tough, gritty team. Still Josh Hart, Ogeana Nobby, Mitchell Robinson.
Starting point is 00:42:53 We got some physical guys for the playoffs. And I'm feeling good. I'm feeling pretty good about this team. Are we going to win it all this year? Who knows? It took the Cubs 108 years. You got about 50 more years to wait. I'm very healthy.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I had an egg white omelet today. I could wait forever. I'll be there whenever it happens. Sam, good talking to you. Good seeing you again. Good talking to you guys. Go Edmundoi! Hey, it's Mike Ryan. Recently got back from Las Vegas, Nevada, was there with some good friends, some co-workers,
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